June 30, 2025 • 95 mins
This week, we've written songs about Superman: The Movie!
Two new songs this week: What a Man and Crystal Clear.
Superman: The Movie (1978), directed by Richard Donner, follows the origin story of Kal-El, an alien infant from the doomed planet Krypton who is raised on Earth as Clark Kent. As he grows into adulthood, he adopts the identity of Superman (Christopher Reeve) and uses his extraordinary powers to protect humanity, facing off against the criminal mastermind Lex Luthor (Gene Hackman). The film also stars Marlon Brando as Jor-El and Margot Kidder as Lois Lane.
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Speaker (00:02):
Look up in the sky.
It's a bird. It's a plane.
It's Robbie and Andywriting songs about Superman.
The movie.
Hello,hello, and welcome to the Royds
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Revue podcast.
I'm Roband we are back once again
talking about 1978 SupermanThe Movie.
Andy, are you feeling groovy?
We need a littlegroove in this movie
because it's a 70s backgroundkick about to
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hold their Lex Luthorabout pan out.
Luthor has a big afro and shit.
I turned into a blaxploitationSuperman film.
What do you think about that?
Do you think it'd be good,though?
Schefter man.
Because it's like shaftSuperman.
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Shaft, man a giant cock.
Andy, how are you?
I'm doing well.
Had you seen 1978 SupermanThe Movie before?
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No. This was the firsttime I had ever seen it.
Yeah.
My father always spoke aboutthis movie when I was a kid,
but I just never got aroundto seeing it as a kid.
I was never a big Superman guy.
The older I've gotten,the more I appreciate Superman.
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But as a kid, I was justkind of like, guess what?
He's just a guywho can't be beat.
But now I'm like, oh no, no,that's the good stuff.
I've seen episodes, butnot as much as I've seen Batman
The Animated Series.
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Yeah, like I haven't seen,like, the Justice League series
from around that time to.
Yeah.
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So I do know and I know nobodyhas bad things to say about it.
And from what I've seen,I have liked,
but I just haven't watchedas much as I've watched
Batman The Animated Series.
Makes a lot of sort of.
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Yeah, I don't you.
I know who you're meeting. Yeah.
Yeah.
That's great casting.
Who played Bizarro?
Dude, you were a child.
Yeah, I'm.
I'm a good guy, too.
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That's Andy Bizarro.
That's fair.
I put you on the spotwith a pretty tough question.
There is no dark side.
Really?
Matter of fact, he's all dark.
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No, I'm talking about strictlydark side matter.
He's all dark.
It's actually grayish.
Yeah,there is no dark, dark side.
Really?
Matter of fact, he's gray.
He's more of a grayish tint.
All right, all right.
I think you're missing the pointof this album.
Here, guy.
That is a great question.
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And this movie came out in theyear of our Megazord, 1978.
Dude, that's a short listshorter than my attention span.
That doesn't make sense,because it's a list.
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Of roid speed.
Here are the toptwo movies of 1978.
You'llnever guess what number one is.
I have no fucking clue.
It is more worldwide.
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It is more than that.
$300.5 million.
I'm on box office mojo.
Jojo.
That's one of, I think one of.
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Or if not the most expensivemovie at the time. Yes.
And the budget was used.
Well, I will say.
Looks good, looks good.
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I've never I again.
This is the first timeI've seen this one.
I've never seen two or 3 or 4.
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Yeah, I've never even seenSuperman Returns
with Brendan Routh.
Tell me more, tell me more.
Did he shoot laserbeams from his eyes?
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Tell me more, tell me more.
Did youget between those thighs?
Who, do.
But who?
Bob? Do.
Really?
You know,I've never seen all of grease.
I've only seen, like,one time, friend was like,
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oh, you got to watch grease.
It was a lady friend.
And I was like, all right.
And I fell asleep immediatelyand just never,
never had that much interest.
I didn't see the playversion of it
a long, long time agoin a galaxy far, far away.
Yeah.
It was it was Star Wars grease.
It was weird,you know, it was a lot like doo
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doo doo doo doo doo doo doodoo doo doo doo
doo. Greased lightning.
Yeah,that was the entire soundtrack.
Yeah.
And every now and then,they just throw the name
of a grease song in there.
Hey, hey, Olivia Newton-John,why don't we go hang out
with a bunch of our 16 yearold friends who look 40?
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It's my John Travolta.
Thanks.
Let's just dive right into it.
This little black and whiteopening is really cool.
It's greatthat they aren't ashamed
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that this is basedon a comic book.
Right.
But we get right into it.
And right as this moviestarts to telling you
this is a comic book movie,and that's awesome.
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They are not just pissingon the source material.
They're telling you upfront.
We are going to be honestto the source material.
We're going to stick with it.
And for the most part,they really do.
Yeah, and it's better for that.
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And I think this opening informsa lot of the rest of the movie
where I'm not questioningcertain choices anymore
because I'mgoing, yeah, it's a comic book.
Yeah.
They they dug up a cave fullof bare bones and they're like,
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oh, a bear must have diedduring hibernation.
I yeah,I which I'm a little annoyed
because we're talking aboutSuperman.
Andy, not the Revenant.
Yeah, yeah. That's on you.
Hey, hey, boo boo.
I found your bones in a cave.
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Yeah, 100%.
And we we get into this openingtheme.
Incredible.
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Name a bad John Williams score.
You can't write us in RoydsRevue at gmail.com.
Or if you're watchingon YouTube, comment down below.
What's a John Williams scoreyou don't like
or what's your favoriteJohn Williams score?
That's called engagement, Andy.
I've learned about that recentlyin my podcast in class,
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I take at Harvard.
Yeah,yeah, I go to Harvard. Yeah,
yeah.
We open up on Krypton.
Jor-El, played by MarlonBrando, is exiling General Zod,
played by Terence Stamp,and some of General Zod goons.
I didn't catch their names.
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General Zod in the group,they're getting banished
to the Phantom Zonefor insurrection or something.
They ever specifywhat they've actually done here,
or they're just tryingto take over Krypton, right?
This movie loaded itself upwith heavyweights. Yes.
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The first two movieswere shot together originally,
you know,and then in between the two,
some stuff went downbetween Donner and Brando,
and they had a fightwith the studio and whatever.
And so.
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But it's really cool settingbecause you're sitting there
going,oh, these guys must be the
baddies of this movie.
Yeah.
Krypton looks incredible.
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These opening shotsoutside of Krypton.
Inside of Krypton,they look great.
We have some great miniaturework in this movie.
They are so cool.
Not just that,but he also has got
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the little curlin his hair, too.
It's like a family tree.
The little girl, Brando.
Even when he doesn't care, he'sawesome.
He's just commanding the screenhere. And he really just.
He's just talking.
Yeah.
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He was crushing it.
Didn't take away from the movie.
Well, that's the thing.
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I kind of appreciate it.
You know,sometimes I'm a I'm a tinkerer.
I tinker with stuffthat I'm making a lot,
and I always find I screw it upafter I've tinkered with it.
And a lot of times,the first one's the best.
And it's similarin, like, baseball,
like when you're batting,a lot of times they say that
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first pitch you get inthe bat might be the best pitch
you're going to get all at batbecause they
want to get strike one on you.
And in art and stuff like this,you know, you
have you come into itwith an idea
and you do that first take.
And it's the purestform of that idea.
And then you kind of startgoing, well, what if we do this?
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What if we do this?
Well, let's try it this way.
And next thing you know,you've been tinkering
with this same thingfor hours, on hours, on hours,
maybe even days,and you wind up hating it
and now you're questioning,is this even good to begin with?
Instead of just saying,no, we made this,
we're going to do 1 or 2 takesbecause that's like the Clint
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Eastwood style. When he directs.
We're doing one take andwe're getting out of here,
you know, come in here,do your best on this
take and let's go.
And I think when you see stufflike that, like certain movies
like Stanley Kubrick would do itto try to get more
out of his actors, it's like,I understand it, but
it didn't like The Shining.
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That helps the movie.
But in a case like this,we don't need,
you know, Marlon Brando knowshe doesn't have to do 50 takes
of this.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
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Right.
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And that's the thing.
Because if someone comes up toyou after you've performed
a standup comedy setand they say, hey,
this did make sense, dude,you came to see comedy.
What do you. It's a joke.
What do you.
What are you talking about?
What do you watchthe movie airplane going to this
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movie theater told me.
Says.
Yeah.
Like, I'm not saying you don'tplay around with things,
but I'm just saying sometimesyou get that core idea.
And especially a thinglike this,
like he's not doing Action Man.
He's literally reciting linesand he's Brando,
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you know, he can recite lines.
Yeah, exactly.
We then cut to the council.
They're mad at Jor-Elbecause he is saying
Krypton is doomed,and they're threatening
to punish himif he causes a panic
by saying the planet is doomed.
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I don't really understand thisnow because it's just
one of those weird things likewhere they just going,
we got Brando.
We need him saying as many linesas possible.
Yeah.
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I think he blames the red sunlike he blames the sun at one
point.
But but again, you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're like, hey, listen,you're really charismatic
and everything,but we need some evidence.
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Dude, you you are just kind ofcreating a panic by saying this.
And if we all evacuatethe planet
and it doesn't explode, that'sgoing to look really bad on
the whole council.
We're going to be the mighty,mighty boss.
Tones like bip bip bip bipbip bip bip.
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They're a scar band, right?
Okay, I didn't even knowI just cast.
Because there's a lot of them.
And Scorpionshave like 40 people in them.
All right, that's it.
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General, you are banishedto, Scar Band.
He gets a little fedoraand a trumpet.
Jaw and wife.
What is Superman'smom's real name?
It could be mom. L now. So.
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Very good.
Now, because I don't even knowhow to use this machine
in front of me.
There's no.
Although I am absolutely tryingto find it.
Martha, l, Lara?
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Yeah.
Lara is not a York as Lara,Superman's biological mother.
On Krypton, she, afterlearning of Krypton's fate,
has apprehensionsabout sending her infant son
to a strange planet alone.
Yeah, I would do.
I don't know, I'mjust looking at this.
Was Supergirlcreated by this point?
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In the comics,I don't know what.
When Supergirl debuted.
There's no way.
Yeah, that's a shame.
You don't comment below.
When did Supergirl debut?
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We're just.
We're just loading upon this engagement.
Yeah.
If you're Supergirl, why don'tyou fly into my window?
Because you're olderthan I am, I think. And,
She would destroy me.
She immediately splitinto half with her laser eyes.
She'd be like,look at this freak.
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I'd be dead.
And, that's making.
Me no longer.
Jor-El and wife send their sonKal-El down to Earth.
He's choosingthis primitive planet
because he will be sustainedby the atmosphere, and.
And he will need the advantagesthat he's going to have.
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Okay, they alsosend some crystals down
so that he'll never be alone.
We learn later that it'sso he can, like,
communicate with Jor-El,even though
that's not really clearhow that's working either.
Later on.
But he also answerswhen he says things to him.
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Okay.
All right.
Oh. Very fancy.
Jor-El monologues to the baby,and the mom just stands there
and it's like, listen, lady,you will speak when spoken to.
When we have Marlon Brando.
You are going tosit there and say, yes, my son.
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Oh, but other than that,you will sit down and shut up.
Yes, I lovebecause all of their clothes on
Krypton are very vibrant.
Like even this,like baby cloth is like super
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shimmery and shiny.
It's really cool.
That's.
But that's advanced society.
It's jagged.
Yeah, yeah.
(22:20):
Even you know their favoritealbum, Jagged Little Pill?
Yeah.
The national anthem on Kryptonis You Learn
by Alanis Morissette.
Yeah.
Kal-El travels through spaceand it's accompanied
by a voiceover from Jor-El.
And Kal-El ages on his journey,which makes sense
because he's travelingthrough space.
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Dora explainsall his powers to him
and says it's forbidden for himto interfere in human history.
But I have a question.
What do Kryptonians eat?
Because this child travelsfor years with no food.
Lateron, Lois Lane asks Superman,
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do you eat?
He's like, yeah, eat.
Listen,she was going for that, though,
with her line of questioning.
What color are my panties?
Superman oh my.
Kal-El crash landsand he gets found by the Kents.
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Martha and Jonathan.
This lady treats this childlike a lost puppy.
Can we keep him?
We'll just say.
We'll just say he was my cousinsand he was newly orphaned.
What?
Well.
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Well, he agrees to keep himafter the boy just lifts
the car up.
Oh, yeah.
Excellent.
The boy is now in high school.
Two things I love about this.
We didn't waste a bunch of timewith him as a little child.
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And when we getto Clark Kent in high school,
they got some young, you know,some this guy in his 20s,
maybe a teenagerto play a high schooler.
They didn't askChristopher Reeve, hey, 30
something year old man, canyou act like a high schooler?
Really?
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I honestly fooled me.
Couldn't tell.
Yeah, a lot of timesyou could tell and stuff
like that,but no, he matched the voice
or he matched the mouthmovements perfectly.
It's really good.
Clark Kent is washingfootball equipment.
He gets introduced to Lana Lang,she invites him to go
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and listen to records,and he's like, well, gee,
golly gosh, I think I willuntil some guy's like, nah,
you gotta clean more stuff.
And he kicks a footballabout four states over.
So does he actually clean thisand then run or does he just go?
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I'm just going to beat them.
They're like, cause they seemto just take off immediately.
Oh yes.
Becausehe's faster than a locomotive.
And you see the kidlike watching him running, like,
what the hell? Yes.
(25:59):
This doesn't look great,but this is
how they had to do it in 1978.
But I love that they'rethrowing in the stuff like this.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
You got to do betterthan that, boys.
Clark runs all the way towardthe other kids
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are going beating them there,and they are absolutely baffled.
And instead of being amazedby how quickly this man moves,
they just call himweird and leave.
Oh, man,this guy's a super athlete.
What a freak.
Yeah.
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But like,when Clark and his dad
are having this conversationand Jonathan's like,
oh, you show off too much.
He's like that.
I could score a touchdownevery time.
And he's like, yeah,but you're not here for that.
It's like, yeah, buthe can at least let them do it.
Or do you think it'sa matter of trying
to teach him about being human?
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Yeah, yeah, it'sabout being humble and humility.
But like, that's me as a father.
I'd be like,no, we can do both, though.
You could dominateon the gridiron and then.
Yeah.
And then just still bea good person.
At least it would teach himto pull his punches,
because imaginegetting tackled by Superman.
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Boom!Oh, my God, they'd be the bird.
He'd beRandy Johnson's fastball.
You just see a uniform.
Pieces just all over the place.
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Just fabric and.
He's right.
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I, I would agree with that.
I also thinkit's one of these things where,
yes, you can scoretouchdowns, but
you're not working for anything.
You're not earning anything,you know, and it reminds me of
when I was in school.
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There was, my neighbor,he had moved here,
and he spoke fluent Spanish.
And when it was timefor us to pick a language
to take in middle schooland high school,
we all were like, dude,just take Spanish.
You'll crush it.
He goes, do you know how boringthat would be?
He goes to take remedial of ato take a remedial version
of a language.
I speak fluently.
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And I think it's oneof those things where it's like,
yeah, you could do that.
You wouldn'tget any fulfillment out of it.
You'd think it wasgreat for the first few moments,
you know,and everyone's adoring you,
but then, yeah,everyone just keeps adoring you.
And then it's like, all right,what is fulfilling you?
Yeah.
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I think I did watch it.
This is where he landsin Russia.
Yeah.
This is in a in an Americathat is a legitimate utopia.
(30:32):
Right.
It's tragic.
(30:59):
I did laugh because his reactionto having a heart attack
is the same reaction JoePesci has when he gets whacked
in Goodfellas.
No. And it's just like it'sbecause early on,
Martha says to him, you know,remember what the doctor said
about your heart?
And apparentlyhe just ignored it.
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This is a much betterJonathan Kent death
than in Man of Steel.
With the tornado.
Right.
The point of this deathis the line right after it.
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All those powers.
And I couldn't even save himbecause there's nothing
Superman can do about nature.
Yes, that's the whole purpose.
Right.
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Except the Man of Steel,he absolutely could have saved.
Is that Clark finds a crystal.
Clark finds a crystal.
I honestly thoughtthis was Kryptonite at first,
because it's just a.
Yeah, credits.
Because, like, it's justyou can't
put just a green crystalin a Superman thing
if it's not Kryptonite,because then later on,
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the Kryptonite is still green.
Yeah.
Yeah, they really should have.
Clark leaves home and goesto the Fortress of Solitude,
which he finds by throwinga crystal into the snow,
and it melts down and we see itand we see this projection of
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Jor-El that speaks to Kal-El.
And so,like you said before, it's
like his consciousnessin this crystal or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
We get Brando monologuingsome more here.
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12 years pass.
Again,this is awesome because we don't
need to watch himbecome Superman.
We get the idea.
He's learning from his dad.
He's talking to Jor-El.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. He.
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You can.
You can be heardin less than half a second to.
You told me to meet you outhere.
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12 years pass.
We see Superman fly off, andwe're now at the Daily Planet.
We meet Jimmy Olsen,Lois Lane, and Perry White.
Lois Lane is a terriblespeller in this movie.
Is that somethingfrom the comics,
or is that just a little gag?
She spells massacre wrong.
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She spells rapist wrong.
Like,there's, like, multiple words.
It's like you're a reporter.
You should really should bespelling these words right?
Oh, you're wild man.
12 years.
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I think that's what it was. I.
Because I think they sent himwith all those crystals.
And that's all the knowledge,like of Jor-El.
Like,that's why they say like, 12
years will passand you will emerge a man.
So he's coming out nowas a 30 year old because he says
when he goes in, he goes,you are not an earth.
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Yes, 18 years old.
Here's a pack of smokes.
But yeah.
So then he says 12years will pass.
So now he's coming outas a 30 year old man.
So he's just beenin his Fortress of Solitude,
which it's called that too,which I love that Darryl
straight up calls it a Fortressof Solitude.
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Again,we're leaning into the fact
this is a comic book movie.
Yeah.
So he's coming out. He's 30.
So. Yeah.
No, he just stayed there for12 years talking to crystals.
It's Clark'sfirst day at the Daily Planet.
This is awesome.
I love Christopher Reeveas Clark Kent Superman, because.
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Oh, golly gosh.
Oh, I'm sorry, Miss Lane.
He's incrediblethe way he like hunches over
as Clark Kent and then stands upstraight as Superman.
Incredible. He.
What we needed to seewere the acting classes he took.
This dude is crushing it.
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Lois and Clark go on a walk.
They get mugged.
Lois kicks the guy.
That's a bad movebecause he shoots immediately.
And then Clark catchesthe bullet.
The guy runs away.
Clark, I guess I fainted.
Yeah.
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Lucky guess.
I understand,but if a guy just said,
hey, is it really worthlosing your life
over a chapstick, a pack of gum,whatever he says, like,
literally listing the exactcontents of her bag?
(37:16):
No, that conversation stops,and you go.
How the fuck did you knowexactly what was in there?
How would.
But, like, why?
I guess I guess he neededto know what was so risky.
(37:38):
Because I imaginehe doesn't just walk around
looking inside women's purses.
So, like, I guess aftershe kicked it, he needed to know
what was so importantfor her to risk it.
Because if not, he'sjust a creep.
We meet Otis.
He's played by Ned Beatty.
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The dog catches him stealingsomething from the blind guy.
That's awesome.
To. Yeah.
Syracuse.
I think so, yeah.
(38:21):
I don't likethat was a weak thing.
We could have thrown in.
We could have thrown GothamCentral, you know what I mean?
Throwing some of those.
Yeah, that was a little weird.
That was.
But then again, this is 1978.
I think they didn'twant to confuse everybody.
These two guysfollow Otis hoping to, hoping
he leads them to Lex Luther.
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As the train goes by,Otis uses the secret passage,
and then Luthor catches the guyfollowing Otis and uses
machinery to just push himin front of the train.
That's awesome.
And here we getthe best part of this movie.
In my opinion.
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Gene Hackman.
This dude is just crushing it.
Lex is talking to Mr.
Smucker here,and he's wondering why
the greatestdiabolical leader of all time
is surrounded by nincompoopsor something like that.
And then Otis walks in and goes,oh, we were just talking
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about you.
I was losing it.
This movie is funnierthan every single Marvel movie.
This movie is funnier.
Let me say this that almostevery single movie in the MCU.
The comic.
But it's better.
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It's well-written.
The comedy in this movieis so much better written
than the comedyand everything in the MCU.
Because it never takes meout of the movie.
We're not sitting there ina fight with him making jokes.
See, I don't think so,because he's only funny
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when he's putting Otis down.
Like you never there.
Well, there's onescene where he's funny
with Superman, but, like,I think a part of it is with Lex
Luthor.
He's always supposed to be cool,calm and collected.
So, like, it'sall one liners and it's.
And it's alwaysall these liners are in service
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to what's goingon. Nothing is like.
Well, that just happened.
And we're not.
And he's not holding a gun tosomebody cracking jokes.
You know, like.
He I loved thisthat fucking Wiley coyote shit
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they startedgetting into at one point.
But that's it.
It's a comic book movie.
This is shit.
Like in the early daysyou'd see Lex
Luther doing in the comic books.
Okay, he he's.
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I've seen two.
Lex Luthor is in live action,and he's better than Jesse
Eisenberg.
Yeah.
Do you know what my father saidto me at six years old?
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Get out.
That was.
That was so funny.
It was so good.
Yeah. No.
(42:36):
Luther explains to me.
Test marker.
That land is a valuable,valuable commodity.
And it always will be.
And he's absolutely right.
And this is where we start.
He starts dropping the hintsof what his plan actually is.
His plan is abrilliant supervillain plan.
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Well, it's also like, thisisn't just a guy who's like,
And I'mgoing to take over the world.
This isn't a guy who's like,I'm going to kill everybody.
I know this guy has a plan,and there's a reason
for the plan,and it's to make him rich.
And it's very clear howthis plan will make him rich.
There is no questioning that.
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If he accomplisheswhat he wants to accomplish,
he will make a lot of money.
Yes. There's a lot of, like,super of, Batman
66 at times in this with like,the straight up being like,
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I am a criminalmastermind behind,
but they're even doing this shitin Goldfinger
when they're going,come on, let's go partake
in our criminal activity.
The scene in Goldfinger wherethey're going around the table
going.
Yes, but I lost this much moneyon my criminal enterprise
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this week.
It's like, okay, guys, like,we we.
Yeah, we get that.
Look at the Daily Planet.
Clark asks Lois to dinner,but she's busy.
And then he follows herinto the ladies restroom
and she's like a weirdo.
Yeah, well, because his jacketgets caught in the door
(44:32):
and instead of opening the door,he goes, Lois?
Lois,would you be a pet and mail
this for me?
Margot Kidder is also.
They have great chemistry.
Reeve and Kidder here,but so stupid. Oh.
That night,Lois Lane gets into a helicopter
(44:57):
for a story.
The pilot calls.
What happens a malfunction.
But this isn't reallya malfunction.
Someone just fucked up real bad.
Because somehow, like,the cables are still caught
on the helicopter.
That's not a helicoptermalfunction.
That's human error.
Someone is getting firedand probably arrested.
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Oh, this.
After?
Yes, absolutely.
I love this homage.
As Supermanis about to get ready
and he looks at the payphoneat first,
and it's not a phone booth.
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And so he just goes into the,the the spinning doors and.
Yeah. And he comes.
Yeah.
Comes out as Superman savesLois falling from the chopper.
Great.
Yeah.
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I love this line from Lois Lanehere.
Why don't you likeyou've got me?
Who's got you?
That's a lot of fun.
Yeah.
(46:22):
Not Superman.
Yeah.
It does it.
The flying looks incrediblein this movie.
Yeah, yeah, I don't this,like, holds up and, like,
this looksbetter than certain movies
(46:42):
that are made.
Now when you have people fly.
By tits.
That's that's horrendous.
Oh. Oh, God.
Yeah, I do.
I also like thislittle detail that Superman
takes the time to tell Lois.
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Don't be afraid of flying.
Statistically,it's very safe. He.
Yeah.
Which I love.
I don't mind that,because I think
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they did a really good jobat the origin story.
Yeah.
It's very. It'sthere's a feeling of
satisfaction because it's like.
All right,if it went on a little too long
before we got Superman.
A little too low,a little longer,
I would have been like,let's go, guys.
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I think they reallyintroduced it at the right time.
Yeah. Yes.
I like Superman, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Superman catches this guyclimbing the outside
of a buildingtrying to break in,
and he flies him to the jail.
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He goes, they say confessions.
Good for the soul.
So this man should have a lotto say or whatever. Loved it.
Well, Superman, it'sgreat that you brought him here.
But that's not how the lawworks.
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You should have goneto law school.
Because then Superman leavesa bunch of criminals,
including a full blownat the police.
(48:57):
Yeah. No one can get through.
That's a crime.
Superman.
The that he's doneso much damage to that street
by just trumping that.
Because it's the wayyou put it down gently.
Yeah.
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Yes. That's aI have a big question
about that later on.
And what I thought was the worstpart of this movie.
Supermansaves a cat from a tree.
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Love that.
The plane gets a planeand struck by lightning.
And it's apparently AirForce One.
All right, who caresif the pilot going fly?
Just fly.
He. Andhe just, like, turns his head.
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He's like, just go.
Don't worry about it.
Everyone watchesthe news about Superman's heroic
heroics.
Luthor is furious.
He wants to challenge Superman.
This is what this isa great bit.
When he goes, Otis,bring me my rope.
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And he brings this ropeinto the pool.
And they talking to us and Otis.
Next time, wait till I'mout of the pool net baby
delivers this gasp here,which had me rolling.
I had to pause the moviebecause I was laughing
so hard at that base. Oh,I was rolling.
Ned Beatty is so funnyin this movie.
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Sure thing, Mr. Luthor.
I was he had me rolling thisentire movie.
Gene Hackman and NedBeatty were so good together.
Incredible.
Perry White wants answersabout the now unnamed Superman,
and Lois Lane gets a notethat says a friend is going
to meet at her place at eightthat night.
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Lois Lane.
So who who who?
Lois Lane gets all dolled upand she's waiting for Superman.
As she lights upa cigaret, Superman inspects
or wants.
That's incredible.
(51:46):
Yeah.
It's very flirty.
It's very horny.
I loveI got a big pop when Lois goes.
Let's startwith your vital statistics.
Are you married?
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Yeah.
And then?
And then the linethat I was stunned
was in this movie.
How big are you?
How tall are you?
I was like, holy.
(52:29):
I was like, oh my God.
Superman revealsthat he can't see through lead
because she goes, whatcolor panties are my wearing?
What color are my I love that.
She's like, oh, I'm sorry ifI made you feel uncomfortable.
He's like, no, it's just thatI can't see through led.
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And then she movesand she goes pink.
I'm sorry if I madeyou feel uncomfortable.
It's like, you know what?
Very much so.
Well.
I don't care.
I was loving this.
This was excellent.
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I know.
And it turns out he will diefrom something called
Kryptonite.
It's like, what are you doing?
The man you apparently love.
And you're telling the worldhow to kill him.
Superman takes Loisfor a flight.
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Superman is totally wrongon this one
because she would be freezing.
She's like, let me get a jacket.
He's like, you don'tneed one. It's like, what?
I mean, at one point they'relike, flying through the fucking
like through space, like,no shimmy, shimmy frozen.
(53:58):
Yeah, but here's my question.
When they are flying,why are her feet not,
like, dangling?
How is shejust flying next to him?
Like point.
Oh my bed.
My bed.
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Oh my Jesus.
And then as they're flying,he drops her.
Yeah.
Well, like, dude, why wouldn'tyou be carrying her?
Like, cradling her like thisthe whole time?
(54:41):
This is the worst partof the movie.
When she startsreciting this poem.
She just startsreciting some poem
while they're flying,and I'm like, okay.
Oh, what did we feel like?
Margot Kidder didn'thave enough lines or something.
This sucks.
(55:01):
Let's move it.
Yeah.
Yeah. Metropolises.
New York.
I can show you the world right?
(55:22):
And be a super, kind of manfrom a Krypton who knows
and understands, right?
That's what you start singing.
That's how he got.
That's how he got his name.
(55:45):
The squatter, blah, blah, blah.
To do that while Buddha. Buddha.
But, he's got, like, fuckingwraparound sunglasses on. Now.
God fucking mullet.
Is is real American music.
Yeah.
(56:12):
Right after us.
Yeah.
Well.
(56:39):
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Movie magic.
Very good.
Soft G would be how I said it.
You said it as a hard G.
Yeah, I'll give you a hard G.
Yeah.
Lois, this is whereLois calls him a Superman.
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And that's when she realizesthat'll be his name.
And when Clark shows upand Lois is distracted,
Clark asksif she's been smoking weed.
Yeah.
He goes, Lois, you haven't been,have you?
I was, I was losing it.
I was like,this is the greatest movie.
This is one this.
All right.
Full.
Honestly, first time I sawthis movie was this week.
(57:23):
I watched it twice this week,like I usually do.
This became one of my top fivesuperhero movies of all time.
I loved this, I lovedevery second of this movie.
Yeah.
Well, I'm excited.
(57:44):
Yeah.
But I don't know howshe doesn't see it, because she
walks out of the door with him,standing up
with his glasses off.
(58:06):
She has bad eyesight, I guess.
Oh, yeah.
And yeah.
And a tizzy.
Oh, yeah.
(58:27):
Oh, yeah.
I mean, listen,Spider-Man in general,
there's a lot of likeyou took that from Superman.
The newspaper aspect of it,like Perry
White is very similar to J.
Jonah Jameson at times like.
And I'm a big Spider-Man guy,but you can absolutely see
they took a lotbecause he's your friendly
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neighborhood Spider-Man.
Exactly.
Like, hey, we've said it before,Stan Lee is the Jimmy Page
of comic books.
Yeah.
Lex Luther reads the papersand knows
(59:10):
that meteorites from Kryptonwill hurt Superman.
Lex fakes a car accident,and the military police
find the woman.
This is so funny.
Well, like.
All right, we need a deep chestmassage and mouth to mouth.
And he goes,oh, I'll do it. I'm the chief.
But he goes, I would never askone of my men to do something.
I'm not willing to do. My knees.
(59:30):
This is again, it's so silly.
And then Otis, it.
Well, causeshe's the woman's test smoker.
Yeah, exactly.
Because Otis screwed upthe plan.
(59:52):
Because Otis, he goes. Yep.
I planted the bombs.
3867 117.
And he goes,what about the fourth one?
Who knows what what fourth one?
He goes, you know,38, 67, 11 seven.
And Otishas the written on his arm.
And he goes, I guessmy arm wasn't long enough.
And then when they're fighting,he goes.
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He just goes, I'll show you.
What do you wantto see? A long arm.
And he starts reaching backto fight.
I'm there because then wecontinue our Looney Tunes stuff
as Luther and Otis hatchanother plan as Truckers and Mr.
Smucker climbs up the bridgein the dress with just
a tool belt over the treads.
(01:00:41):
Yeah.
They just funny.
They sent herto do all the dirty work.
It's so funny, Lois Lane.
(01:01:03):
Questionsomeone why they're selling
Luther all the land,and the guy's like.
Because he'spaying an outrageous price.
Why would I not?
We then get PerryWhite encouraging Clark Kent
to be a little more aggressive.
And we also learnthat a meteorite was stolen
from the museum.
That's just a little thingthey just throw in there.
(01:01:23):
That's how they explain thatLex Luther got the Kryptonite,
you know, and I like that.
They just kind ofthrow it in there.
We don't actually see themrobbing the museum,
but they tell youbecause we we do see early on
or a little earlierthat the meteorite or
the Kryptonitewas found in Ethiopia.
And wouldn't you know it,it was stolen
and brought to a museum. Whoa.
(01:01:43):
Luthorcommunicates through to Superman
through a frequencythat only him and dogs can hear.
And during this, Perry Whiteis just rambling, and Clark
just leaves.
That Supermanthen spins so fast,
(01:02:06):
he drills a holethrough the ground,
making his way all the wayto Lex Luther's hideout.
He kicks the door in and Luthergoes, that's open! Come on in.
I think GeneHackman was so funny in this,
(01:02:28):
just so unbelievablyfunny in this.
Lutherexplains his plan to Superman.
His plan is to blow LA,San Francisco,
and San Diego off the map,doing America all a favor
because he owns all the desertland.
He'll then ownthe entire West Coast.
And this is wherewe get the great Otis Berg.
(01:02:49):
Well, Mr. Smucker has a place.
It's the little pieceof land, Mr.
Luthor, because, you see,she has test marker peaks.
And of course, we have a boobjoke because it's test marker
peaks and there's mountains.
That's how I took itas a little boob joke.
But, yeah, he tried to.
He tried to just write in OtisPark and one of the areas
(01:03:12):
Otis Berg.
Then we seewhat makes Lex Luthor so good
is that he's able to outsmartSuperman.
Yeah.
(01:03:38):
Yeah, yeah.
There's one missile goingat West and one going out east.
And I know you can't stopboth of them. So.
Yeah, because he.
He tricks on me.
He's holding a where's thedetonator or whatever,
and he looks at the wrong thing.
(01:03:59):
And then Superman'slooking around and he opens it
up, and it's just Kryptonite.
And it's just like Kryptonite.
Chain a necklacethat they just put on Superman
and throw him into the water.
Yeah, probably.
(01:04:20):
Yeah.
But again,what do you think Lex
Luther would have donein the comic books at this time?
Do you think you would have puta Kryptonite necklace on him
and shot him in the face?
Or put a character.
Exactly.
Miss Tess Walker tells Lexthat her mother lives
in Hackensack, Hackensack.
He does this great thing wherehe just looks at his watch.
(01:04:40):
He goes.
Test marker agrees to helpSuperman only if he saves her
mother first,and then before she takes
the necklace off of him,she kisses him and he's like,
what the fuck?
Because I didn't thinkI'd get the chance.
(01:05:07):
Really, you wouldn't have,you know.
Superman catches the missileheading for Hackensack.
One thing I really enjoyed,another thing
that really kept popping me inthis movie, was when Lex
Luthor would go to a smart guy.
He justhates this two underlings,
(01:05:30):
and that makes itso much better.
Yeah.
The missile hits the San Andreasfault line.
Oh, shit.
Here we go again.
Just had to follow the train.
Superman. I.
(01:05:56):
That's great.
And also,what is Jimmy Olsen doing?
He's just taking randomphotographs.
Yeah, likethey're not near each other.
They went out there together,and then she's like,
I'm gonna drive around.
You do whatever you do.
(01:06:18):
Everything'sfalling into the ground.
Superman pushes the groundback up at one point.
Yeah.
(01:06:39):
You then saves a suit, a schoolbus, he access train tracks.
I love that.
Yeah.
The dam breaks, Jimmy falls,Superman saves him just in time.
But then he's like,you'll be safe here.
No we won't.
Why would you thinkthat? Take him with you.
Lois Lane runs out of gas,but for some reason, she keeps
(01:07:06):
trying to start the car.
Like, onceyou see why you like your card
and install it ran out of gas.
Once it's on empty,you can't sit there
trying to start the car.
I don't knowif it's safer to be in the car,
(01:07:30):
out of the car at that point.
She does die in the car.
She does die in the car.
This is a legitimatelyhorrifying way to go.
This is terrifying.
Yeah, but Superman createsa dam of rocks.
(01:07:50):
We get some good miniature workand some bad miniature
work here.
Like some of this miniature workwith the houses
looks really good.
Some of the rocks,it just looks like little rocks.
Yeah, yeah.
Supermanis all proud of himself.
And then he remembers Lois.
It's like, oh, God.
Oh, shit.
(01:08:12):
And he.
Now. I get I thinkI know where you're going with
what you're going to say abouthow he, like, reverses time.
From what I read,that was supposed to be
the end of the second movie.
(01:08:35):
Yes, yes.
But I'm also wondering again,I haven't seen the second movie,
but part of the whole thing withJor-El is Daryl is saying,
you can't go back,you can't change human history.
So I wouldn'tbe surprised if him doing
(01:08:57):
this is what leads to thosebanished into the Phantom Zone
to come back.
Yes. Yeah.
(01:09:33):
That's why.
(01:09:54):
But that's whyI think they filmed
these two movies together.
Because I thinkthis was supposed
to lead into the consequencesthat lead to the second movie.
It's.
It's not a matter of true.
It's right.
Or if I'm correct or incorrect.
(01:10:15):
But like Superman.
Yeah, you reverse time.
But as far as I can tell,all those people still died
because we didn't see yougo back and create that damn.
It seems like Supermansacrificed multiple people
just to save Lois here.
(01:10:38):
That's that. What?
That'swhat I took from the ending.
Yeah.
Like, I wish he did itright to the point where.
(01:11:03):
Right where he stood there fora second. So proud of himself.
What he did was you reverse itright before he wasted
too much timepatting himself on the back.
Well, no, it doesn't make sense.
No, it doesn't.
I think he's actually rotatingthe earth the other way.
(01:11:42):
Yes. Yeah.
But again,this is a very comic book thing
to do, though.
I didn't hate it.
I know some people don't likeit. I don't hate this if I'm.
But that's also becauseI'm assuming what happens.
And if I'm wrong then I can go,oh that's bad.
(01:12:03):
But because I looked it upand it said they film
the first two together,I go, that has to be a reason,
because they did warn himthroughout the whole movie.
Don't do this.
And I.
Yeah, and I think we will.
(01:12:23):
Isn't that crazy?
But it's also like,I know they had some production
issues in between these movies,so who knows.
What what?
Superman flies off.
Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lanestart to kind of speculate
(01:12:45):
is he is Clark Kent. Superman?
Yeah. Oh.
Yeah.
(01:13:08):
That's my Superman.
Superman.
He flies Otis and LexLuthor to a prison.
Luther removes his wigand just declares something.
I'm not quite sure.
But again, you don'tjust take them to prison.
There's processes that have togo through with this.
(01:13:30):
But yeah, Superman flies offand we go to the credits.
I really liked this, Andy.
I had a really good timewith this movie.
I thinkit's a great Superman movie.
(01:13:52):
I think even though it'sa pretty long movie,
we don't waste time in this.
We will find out next week. Yes.
(01:14:16):
Good.
It is.
(01:14:38):
Yes. Me too.
My hopes are high.
She got a letter box.
You can follow us onLetterboxd at the Royds Band.
(01:15:00):
Andy, I really like this.
I liked the humor.
I liked the story.
I like the wholesomeness.
I like thatthey lean into the fact
that this is a comic book movie.
This does get dragged downby that little poetry section
in the middle.
And again, I am hopingI'm correct with my thinking
on the end of the movieleading into the second one.
(01:15:22):
I thinkthis is a four star movie.
That was easier than me.
After a couple of tequilas.
A couple of shots of tequilaand I'm going cray cray.
All right.
Yeah.
Very good.
(01:15:44):
Andy, I have four trivia.
Dude, that's really good.
That's good math to me.
Really?
I'll go first.
How many known galaxies doesJor-El say there are?
27, 28, 29, 30.
(01:16:07):
It is not 27.
It is 28. Yes.
Very good.
You nailed it.
It's not the last one.
(01:16:36):
14. Milk.
Look at me.
I know, I know.
What song are the kidslistening to when they pull up
after Clark beats them by foot?
The yellow Rose of Texas,the ballad of Davy Crockett.
Moments to remember.
(01:16:58):
Rock Around the Clock.
It is not the balladof Davy Crockett.
Is it the.
Is it the yellow rose of Texas?
Is it moments to rememberor is it rock around the clock?
It is not moments to remember.
(01:17:21):
It is not the yellow roseof Texas. It.
It is rock around the clock.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
34. 26. 42.
(01:17:50):
Nailed it.
Dang! How much money doesJimmy Olsen get paid per week?
(01:18:11):
$30? $35, $40, $50. $30.
It is not $30.
Is not $35.
It is $40 a week.
I have no idea.
(01:18:34):
That I know itbased on my next question.
It definitelytakes place in the 70s.
Yeah, I saw that.
That was pretty crazy.
Was it just Richard Donner?
(01:19:10):
Was it Francis FrancisFord Coppola?
Was it Steven Spielberg?
Yeah.
(01:19:32):
What song is playingwhen Lois Lane honks her horn
at the gas stationshe's listening to on the radio.
Give a little bit, rich girl.
Fly like an eagle.
Go your own way.
It is.
Give a little bit by Supertramp.
(01:19:52):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Those are all songs from 1977.
Yeah, just like the other one.
Were all songs from 1955.
So I very good.
As you know, my dad was born.
(01:20:12):
Yeah.
Because I think when he,when he's 18, it's 1955,
and then 12 years later,it's 1977.
That's what I kind of assumedfrom the movie.
You're right.
Look at us.
(01:20:34):
I wrote a song also Andy.
I also have a pick to flip.
It's tails, brother bear.
No, it's what I do.
I'll go first.
(01:20:55):
My song is called what a man.
What a mighty, mighty good man.
Now my song is calledwhat a man.
And I'm going to be honest,I did something different
this week.
I just kind of focusedon making a beat.
I really, like,sat down with the 808
setting on the keyboardand the Midi and
focused on making a beat firstand then just kind of built it
from there.
The vocals and the lyrics were atotal afterthought, you know?
(01:21:17):
All done.
After all the music was recordedjust to see
what I could fit in here. Sonot, you know, there are
lyrics, obviously, but again,the beat was really
what I focused onand I'm actually just kind of
rambling now,which is kind of silly, I guess.
But anyway, here's my song.
It's called The Water Manand it is about Superman.
The movie.
(01:21:39):
He's six foot four.
Chisel. Joe,and just won't look him
over you of your drawers.
(01:22:00):
He's taking timein his red tights.
His only weakness is Kryptonite.
He can't seem to lift.
(01:22:27):
He does what my mum says.
He don't want no one. Dad.
He keeps a clear head.
He sees no point in violence.
And you can't keep him silent.
No matter how hard you try.
And he'll keep those peoplefrom dying.
He can't save everyoneunder a red sun.
(01:22:53):
Something's been done.
And Lex hasn't been up at home.
It's close.
Where will you go?
Sent down to earth.
Well,you'll never be alone. You.
Landed it close.
(01:23:36):
Where will you go?
Sent down to earth.
Where you'll never be alone.
Six foot four.
Tears of joy.
It just won't look. You know.
Will you?
Love you.
Trust.
(01:23:57):
That was my song.
Cold water. Man.
What a man.
What a mighty, mighty good man.
(01:24:20):
Yeah.
Focus mostly on the beat.
There.
Yeah, it was a little weird.
Yeah, I know,I know you do, baby.
But, yeah.
(01:24:40):
I like it.
Very cool.
(01:25:02):
I like it. Hey!You can't save everyone.
(01:26:16):
You can't interferewith everything.
But if I can't.
Then why shouldn't I?
Dozens of birds show upwhen it flies.
(01:26:37):
But I'm here for a reason.
And thatreason is not crystal clear.
It's.
Me? And.
(01:26:59):
What if I say everyone?
(01:27:24):
What if I interferewith everything?
I'll just turn back timeand away with my love
I will fly.
I was one year for a reason.
(01:27:48):
And that reason is crystalclear.
I forgot I am a Godand I got no consequences. You.
(01:28:35):
I liked it a lot.
(01:28:56):
I like thatthe guitar sounds great.
Yeah.
Oh, it sounded really.
(01:29:17):
I think the guitar sounds great.
Oh, yeah.
Sounds cool. I like that.
I like that a lot.
Thank you.
You don't.
We owe John Williams money.
That's. That's unfortunate.
(01:29:38):
And we just keepracking up our bill.
The John Williams, emcees.
Yeah.
Still alive.
He's 93.
(01:30:04):
Oh, he.
Wikipedia doesn't change us.
Is an American composer.
He is acelebrated American composer.
No. Yeah, he is a goat.
Like a legitimate, like,greatest of all time.
Yes, I noticed that.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
And he just stands on the edge.
(01:30:24):
It's crazy.
Yeah, and he eats hair.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that is sucha good question.
(01:30:44):
I'm going to answer it.
It's Superman two.
Of, you know, I think you learnthey can find out next week
if we're going to watch it.
If one of us watched.
Yeah.
Yeah.
(01:31:05):
Although the Donner versionis apparently very different.
Apparently the Donner cut,they actually went and like,
there's, like unfinished scenesin it and stuff.
Yeah.
And they like, brought Marlonthe Marlon
Brando scenes back into it.
It's very, very different.
But I am interested.
(01:31:27):
If I can findthe Donner, I will do both.
I will still probablyonly write one song.
I don't know how differentthey are.
That becomes the problem,because we do run the risk of
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just doing the same movie twice.
Let's see, where did.
Well, find out.
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Yeah.
Me too.
(01:33:32):
The James Gunn version.
I'm looking forward to it.
But one thing I really likeabout this
is that it's just Superman.
And you already seein this new one
there's like Green Lanternand there's a Hawkgirl.
I think.
And I'm like,just give me soup.
Just give me soup.
(01:33:55):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's this shit anyway? But.
(01:34:17):
Build your butt, like,build your single adventures.
And then afteryou have a bunch of successes,
find a reasonto bring them together.
Through.
Good. Yeah.
Hey, they do good.
Exactly.
(01:34:46):
Well. So.
Fascinating.
Insight is always.
All right.
Next week,we're doing Superman two.
Thank you forlistening. Bye, everybody.
Look up in the sky.
It's a bird. It's a plane.
It's Robbie and Andywriting songs about Superman.
The movie.
Hello,hello, and welcome to the Royds
(00:28):
Revue podcast.
I'm Roband we are back once again
talking about 1978 SupermanThe Movie.
Andy, are you feeling groovy?
We need a littlegroove in this movie
because it's a 70s backgroundkick about to
(00:53):
hold their Lex Luthorabout pan out.
Luthor has a big afro and shit.
I turned into a blaxploitationSuperman film.
What do you think about that?
Do you think it'd be good,though?
Schefter man.
Because it's like shaftSuperman.
(01:15):
Shaft, man a giant cock.
Andy, how are you?
I'm doing well.
Had you seen 1978 SupermanThe Movie before?
(01:36):
No. This was the firsttime I had ever seen it.
Yeah.
My father always spoke aboutthis movie when I was a kid,
but I just never got aroundto seeing it as a kid.
I was never a big Superman guy.
The older I've gotten,the more I appreciate Superman.
(01:59):
But as a kid, I was justkind of like, guess what?
He's just a guywho can't be beat.
But now I'm like, oh no, no,that's the good stuff.
I've seen episodes, butnot as much as I've seen Batman
The Animated Series.
(02:21):
Yeah, like I haven't seen,like, the Justice League series
from around that time to.
Yeah.
(02:42):
So I do know and I know nobodyhas bad things to say about it.
And from what I've seen,I have liked,
but I just haven't watchedas much as I've watched
Batman The Animated Series.
Makes a lot of sort of.
(03:09):
Yeah, I don't you.
I know who you're meeting. Yeah.
Yeah.
That's great casting.
Who played Bizarro?
Dude, you were a child.
Yeah, I'm.
I'm a good guy, too.
(03:30):
That's Andy Bizarro.
That's fair.
I put you on the spotwith a pretty tough question.
There is no dark side.
Really?
Matter of fact, he's all dark.
(03:52):
No, I'm talking about strictlydark side matter.
He's all dark.
It's actually grayish.
Yeah,there is no dark, dark side.
Really?
Matter of fact, he's gray.
He's more of a grayish tint.
All right, all right.
I think you're missing the pointof this album.
Here, guy.
That is a great question.
(04:17):
And this movie came out in theyear of our Megazord, 1978.
Dude, that's a short listshorter than my attention span.
That doesn't make sense,because it's a list.
(04:43):
Of roid speed.
Here are the toptwo movies of 1978.
You'llnever guess what number one is.
I have no fucking clue.
It is more worldwide.
(05:09):
It is more than that.
$300.5 million.
I'm on box office mojo.
Jojo.
That's one of, I think one of.
(05:33):
Or if not the most expensivemovie at the time. Yes.
And the budget was used.
Well, I will say.
Looks good, looks good.
(05:53):
I've never I again.
This is the first timeI've seen this one.
I've never seen two or 3 or 4.
(06:13):
Yeah, I've never even seenSuperman Returns
with Brendan Routh.
Tell me more, tell me more.
Did he shoot laserbeams from his eyes?
(06:33):
Tell me more, tell me more.
Did youget between those thighs?
Who, do.
But who?
Bob? Do.
Really?
You know,I've never seen all of grease.
I've only seen, like,one time, friend was like,
(06:55):
oh, you got to watch grease.
It was a lady friend.
And I was like, all right.
And I fell asleep immediatelyand just never,
never had that much interest.
I didn't see the playversion of it
a long, long time agoin a galaxy far, far away.
Yeah.
It was it was Star Wars grease.
It was weird,you know, it was a lot like doo
(07:17):
doo doo doo doo doo doo doodoo doo doo doo
doo. Greased lightning.
Yeah,that was the entire soundtrack.
Yeah.
And every now and then,they just throw the name
of a grease song in there.
Hey, hey, Olivia Newton-John,why don't we go hang out
with a bunch of our 16 yearold friends who look 40?
(07:38):
It's my John Travolta.
Thanks.
Let's just dive right into it.
This little black and whiteopening is really cool.
It's greatthat they aren't ashamed
(08:03):
that this is basedon a comic book.
Right.
But we get right into it.
And right as this moviestarts to telling you
this is a comic book movie,and that's awesome.
(08:26):
They are not just pissingon the source material.
They're telling you upfront.
We are going to be honestto the source material.
We're going to stick with it.
And for the most part,they really do.
Yeah, and it's better for that.
(08:46):
And I think this opening informsa lot of the rest of the movie
where I'm not questioningcertain choices anymore
because I'mgoing, yeah, it's a comic book.
Yeah.
They they dug up a cave fullof bare bones and they're like,
(09:10):
oh, a bear must have diedduring hibernation.
I yeah,I which I'm a little annoyed
because we're talking aboutSuperman.
Andy, not the Revenant.
Yeah, yeah. That's on you.
Hey, hey, boo boo.
I found your bones in a cave.
(09:30):
Yeah, 100%.
And we we get into this openingtheme.
Incredible.
(09:53):
Name a bad John Williams score.
You can't write us in RoydsRevue at gmail.com.
Or if you're watchingon YouTube, comment down below.
What's a John Williams scoreyou don't like
or what's your favoriteJohn Williams score?
That's called engagement, Andy.
I've learned about that recentlyin my podcast in class,
(10:15):
I take at Harvard.
Yeah,yeah, I go to Harvard. Yeah,
yeah.
We open up on Krypton.
Jor-El, played by MarlonBrando, is exiling General Zod,
played by Terence Stamp,and some of General Zod goons.
I didn't catch their names.
(10:38):
General Zod in the group,they're getting banished
to the Phantom Zonefor insurrection or something.
They ever specifywhat they've actually done here,
or they're just tryingto take over Krypton, right?
This movie loaded itself upwith heavyweights. Yes.
(11:15):
The first two movieswere shot together originally,
you know,and then in between the two,
some stuff went downbetween Donner and Brando,
and they had a fightwith the studio and whatever.
And so.
(11:36):
But it's really cool settingbecause you're sitting there
going,oh, these guys must be the
baddies of this movie.
Yeah.
Krypton looks incredible.
(12:01):
These opening shotsoutside of Krypton.
Inside of Krypton,they look great.
We have some great miniaturework in this movie.
They are so cool.
Not just that,but he also has got
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the little curlin his hair, too.
It's like a family tree.
The little girl, Brando.
Even when he doesn't care, he'sawesome.
He's just commanding the screenhere. And he really just.
He's just talking.
Yeah.
(12:45):
He was crushing it.
Didn't take away from the movie.
Well, that's the thing.
(13:23):
I kind of appreciate it.
You know,sometimes I'm a I'm a tinkerer.
I tinker with stuffthat I'm making a lot,
and I always find I screw it upafter I've tinkered with it.
And a lot of times,the first one's the best.
And it's similarin, like, baseball,
like when you're batting,a lot of times they say that
(13:44):
first pitch you get inthe bat might be the best pitch
you're going to get all at batbecause they
want to get strike one on you.
And in art and stuff like this,you know, you
have you come into itwith an idea
and you do that first take.
And it's the purestform of that idea.
And then you kind of startgoing, well, what if we do this?
(14:07):
What if we do this?
Well, let's try it this way.
And next thing you know,you've been tinkering
with this same thingfor hours, on hours, on hours,
maybe even days,and you wind up hating it
and now you're questioning,is this even good to begin with?
Instead of just saying,no, we made this,
we're going to do 1 or 2 takesbecause that's like the Clint
(14:28):
Eastwood style. When he directs.
We're doing one take andwe're getting out of here,
you know, come in here,do your best on this
take and let's go.
And I think when you see stufflike that, like certain movies
like Stanley Kubrick would do itto try to get more
out of his actors, it's like,I understand it, but
it didn't like The Shining.
(14:48):
That helps the movie.
But in a case like this,we don't need,
you know, Marlon Brando knowshe doesn't have to do 50 takes
of this.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
(15:16):
Right.
(15:44):
And that's the thing.
Because if someone comes up toyou after you've performed
a standup comedy setand they say, hey,
this did make sense, dude,you came to see comedy.
What do you. It's a joke.
What do you.
What are you talking about?
What do you watchthe movie airplane going to this
(16:07):
movie theater told me.
Says.
Yeah.
Like, I'm not saying you don'tplay around with things,
but I'm just saying sometimesyou get that core idea.
And especially a thinglike this,
like he's not doing Action Man.
He's literally reciting linesand he's Brando,
(16:31):
you know, he can recite lines.
Yeah, exactly.
We then cut to the council.
They're mad at Jor-Elbecause he is saying
Krypton is doomed,and they're threatening
to punish himif he causes a panic
by saying the planet is doomed.
(16:52):
I don't really understand thisnow because it's just
one of those weird things likewhere they just going,
we got Brando.
We need him saying as many linesas possible.
Yeah.
(17:16):
I think he blames the red sunlike he blames the sun at one
point.
But but again, you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're like, hey, listen,you're really charismatic
and everything,but we need some evidence.
(17:40):
Dude, you you are just kind ofcreating a panic by saying this.
And if we all evacuatethe planet
and it doesn't explode, that'sgoing to look really bad on
the whole council.
We're going to be the mighty,mighty boss.
Tones like bip bip bip bipbip bip bip.
(18:00):
They're a scar band, right?
Okay, I didn't even knowI just cast.
Because there's a lot of them.
And Scorpionshave like 40 people in them.
All right, that's it.
(18:21):
General, you are banishedto, Scar Band.
He gets a little fedoraand a trumpet.
Jaw and wife.
What is Superman'smom's real name?
It could be mom. L now. So.
(18:55):
Very good.
Now, because I don't even knowhow to use this machine
in front of me.
There's no.
Although I am absolutely tryingto find it.
Martha, l, Lara?
(19:21):
Yeah.
Lara is not a York as Lara,Superman's biological mother.
On Krypton, she, afterlearning of Krypton's fate,
has apprehensionsabout sending her infant son
to a strange planet alone.
Yeah, I would do.
I don't know, I'mjust looking at this.
Was Supergirlcreated by this point?
(19:43):
In the comics,I don't know what.
When Supergirl debuted.
There's no way.
Yeah, that's a shame.
You don't comment below.
When did Supergirl debut?
(20:03):
We're just.
We're just loading upon this engagement.
Yeah.
If you're Supergirl, why don'tyou fly into my window?
Because you're olderthan I am, I think. And,
She would destroy me.
She immediately splitinto half with her laser eyes.
She'd be like,look at this freak.
(20:24):
I'd be dead.
And, that's making.
Me no longer.
Jor-El and wife send their sonKal-El down to Earth.
He's choosingthis primitive planet
because he will be sustainedby the atmosphere, and.
And he will need the advantagesthat he's going to have.
(20:45):
Okay, they alsosend some crystals down
so that he'll never be alone.
We learn later that it'sso he can, like,
communicate with Jor-El,even though
that's not really clearhow that's working either.
Later on.
But he also answerswhen he says things to him.
(21:11):
Okay.
All right.
Oh. Very fancy.
Jor-El monologues to the baby,and the mom just stands there
and it's like, listen, lady,you will speak when spoken to.
When we have Marlon Brando.
You are going tosit there and say, yes, my son.
(21:38):
Oh, but other than that,you will sit down and shut up.
Yes, I lovebecause all of their clothes on
Krypton are very vibrant.
Like even this,like baby cloth is like super
(22:00):
shimmery and shiny.
It's really cool.
That's.
But that's advanced society.
It's jagged.
Yeah, yeah.
(22:20):
Even you know their favoritealbum, Jagged Little Pill?
Yeah.
The national anthem on Kryptonis You Learn
by Alanis Morissette.
Yeah.
Kal-El travels through spaceand it's accompanied
by a voiceover from Jor-El.
And Kal-El ages on his journey,which makes sense
because he's travelingthrough space.
(22:43):
Dora explainsall his powers to him
and says it's forbidden for himto interfere in human history.
But I have a question.
What do Kryptonians eat?
Because this child travelsfor years with no food.
Lateron, Lois Lane asks Superman,
(23:06):
do you eat?
He's like, yeah, eat.
Listen,she was going for that, though,
with her line of questioning.
What color are my panties?
Superman oh my.
Kal-El crash landsand he gets found by the Kents.
(23:34):
Martha and Jonathan.
This lady treats this childlike a lost puppy.
Can we keep him?
We'll just say.
We'll just say he was my cousinsand he was newly orphaned.
What?
Well.
(24:04):
Well, he agrees to keep himafter the boy just lifts
the car up.
Oh, yeah.
Excellent.
The boy is now in high school.
Two things I love about this.
We didn't waste a bunch of timewith him as a little child.
(24:26):
And when we getto Clark Kent in high school,
they got some young, you know,some this guy in his 20s,
maybe a teenagerto play a high schooler.
They didn't askChristopher Reeve, hey, 30
something year old man, canyou act like a high schooler?
Really?
(24:54):
I honestly fooled me.
Couldn't tell.
Yeah, a lot of timesyou could tell and stuff
like that,but no, he matched the voice
or he matched the mouthmovements perfectly.
It's really good.
Clark Kent is washingfootball equipment.
He gets introduced to Lana Lang,she invites him to go
(25:14):
and listen to records,and he's like, well, gee,
golly gosh, I think I willuntil some guy's like, nah,
you gotta clean more stuff.
And he kicks a footballabout four states over.
So does he actually clean thisand then run or does he just go?
(25:38):
I'm just going to beat them.
They're like, cause they seemto just take off immediately.
Oh yes.
Becausehe's faster than a locomotive.
And you see the kidlike watching him running, like,
what the hell? Yes.
(25:59):
This doesn't look great,but this is
how they had to do it in 1978.
But I love that they'rethrowing in the stuff like this.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
You got to do betterthan that, boys.
Clark runs all the way towardthe other kids
(26:21):
are going beating them there,and they are absolutely baffled.
And instead of being amazedby how quickly this man moves,
they just call himweird and leave.
Oh, man,this guy's a super athlete.
What a freak.
Yeah.
(26:52):
But like,when Clark and his dad
are having this conversationand Jonathan's like,
oh, you show off too much.
He's like that.
I could score a touchdownevery time.
And he's like, yeah,but you're not here for that.
It's like, yeah, buthe can at least let them do it.
Or do you think it'sa matter of trying
to teach him about being human?
(27:13):
Yeah, yeah, it'sabout being humble and humility.
But like, that's me as a father.
I'd be like,no, we can do both, though.
You could dominateon the gridiron and then.
Yeah.
And then just still bea good person.
At least it would teach himto pull his punches,
because imaginegetting tackled by Superman.
(27:33):
Boom!Oh, my God, they'd be the bird.
He'd beRandy Johnson's fastball.
You just see a uniform.
Pieces just all over the place.
(27:54):
Just fabric and.
He's right.
(28:35):
I, I would agree with that.
I also thinkit's one of these things where,
yes, you can scoretouchdowns, but
you're not working for anything.
You're not earning anything,you know, and it reminds me of
when I was in school.
(28:56):
There was, my neighbor,he had moved here,
and he spoke fluent Spanish.
And when it was timefor us to pick a language
to take in middle schooland high school,
we all were like, dude,just take Spanish.
You'll crush it.
He goes, do you know how boringthat would be?
He goes to take remedial of ato take a remedial version
of a language.
I speak fluently.
(29:17):
And I think it's oneof those things where it's like,
yeah, you could do that.
You wouldn'tget any fulfillment out of it.
You'd think it wasgreat for the first few moments,
you know,and everyone's adoring you,
but then, yeah,everyone just keeps adoring you.
And then it's like, all right,what is fulfilling you?
Yeah.
(29:43):
I think I did watch it.
This is where he landsin Russia.
Yeah.
This is in a in an Americathat is a legitimate utopia.
(30:32):
Right.
It's tragic.
(30:59):
I did laugh because his reactionto having a heart attack
is the same reaction JoePesci has when he gets whacked
in Goodfellas.
No. And it's just like it'sbecause early on,
Martha says to him, you know,remember what the doctor said
about your heart?
And apparentlyhe just ignored it.
(31:19):
This is a much betterJonathan Kent death
than in Man of Steel.
With the tornado.
Right.
The point of this deathis the line right after it.
(31:42):
All those powers.
And I couldn't even save himbecause there's nothing
Superman can do about nature.
Yes, that's the whole purpose.
Right.
(32:06):
Except the Man of Steel,he absolutely could have saved.
Is that Clark finds a crystal.
Clark finds a crystal.
I honestly thoughtthis was Kryptonite at first,
because it's just a.
Yeah, credits.
Because, like, it's justyou can't
put just a green crystalin a Superman thing
if it's not Kryptonite,because then later on,
(32:27):
the Kryptonite is still green.
Yeah.
Yeah, they really should have.
Clark leaves home and goesto the Fortress of Solitude,
which he finds by throwinga crystal into the snow,
and it melts down and we see itand we see this projection of
(32:49):
Jor-El that speaks to Kal-El.
And so,like you said before, it's
like his consciousnessin this crystal or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
We get Brando monologuingsome more here.
(33:11):
12 years pass.
Again,this is awesome because we don't
need to watch himbecome Superman.
We get the idea.
He's learning from his dad.
He's talking to Jor-El.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. He.
(33:42):
You can.
You can be heardin less than half a second to.
You told me to meet you outhere.
(34:03):
12 years pass.
We see Superman fly off, andwe're now at the Daily Planet.
We meet Jimmy Olsen,Lois Lane, and Perry White.
Lois Lane is a terriblespeller in this movie.
Is that somethingfrom the comics,
or is that just a little gag?
She spells massacre wrong.
(34:25):
She spells rapist wrong.
Like,there's, like, multiple words.
It's like you're a reporter.
You should really should bespelling these words right?
Oh, you're wild man.
12 years.
(34:54):
I think that's what it was. I.
Because I think they sent himwith all those crystals.
And that's all the knowledge,like of Jor-El.
Like,that's why they say like, 12
years will passand you will emerge a man.
So he's coming out nowas a 30 year old because he says
when he goes in, he goes,you are not an earth.
(35:15):
Yes, 18 years old.
Here's a pack of smokes.
But yeah.
So then he says 12years will pass.
So now he's coming outas a 30 year old man.
So he's just beenin his Fortress of Solitude,
which it's called that too,which I love that Darryl
straight up calls it a Fortressof Solitude.
(35:37):
Again,we're leaning into the fact
this is a comic book movie.
Yeah.
So he's coming out. He's 30.
So. Yeah.
No, he just stayed there for12 years talking to crystals.
It's Clark'sfirst day at the Daily Planet.
This is awesome.
I love Christopher Reeveas Clark Kent Superman, because.
(36:01):
Oh, golly gosh.
Oh, I'm sorry, Miss Lane.
He's incrediblethe way he like hunches over
as Clark Kent and then stands upstraight as Superman.
Incredible. He.
What we needed to seewere the acting classes he took.
This dude is crushing it.
(36:24):
Lois and Clark go on a walk.
They get mugged.
Lois kicks the guy.
That's a bad movebecause he shoots immediately.
And then Clark catchesthe bullet.
The guy runs away.
Clark, I guess I fainted.
Yeah.
(36:51):
Lucky guess.
I understand,but if a guy just said,
hey, is it really worthlosing your life
over a chapstick, a pack of gum,whatever he says, like,
literally listing the exactcontents of her bag?
(37:16):
No, that conversation stops,and you go.
How the fuck did you knowexactly what was in there?
How would.
But, like, why?
I guess I guess he neededto know what was so risky.
(37:38):
Because I imaginehe doesn't just walk around
looking inside women's purses.
So, like, I guess aftershe kicked it, he needed to know
what was so importantfor her to risk it.
Because if not, he'sjust a creep.
We meet Otis.
He's played by Ned Beatty.
(38:00):
The dog catches him stealingsomething from the blind guy.
That's awesome.
To. Yeah.
Syracuse.
I think so, yeah.
(38:21):
I don't likethat was a weak thing.
We could have thrown in.
We could have thrown GothamCentral, you know what I mean?
Throwing some of those.
Yeah, that was a little weird.
That was.
But then again, this is 1978.
I think they didn'twant to confuse everybody.
These two guysfollow Otis hoping to, hoping
he leads them to Lex Luther.
(38:42):
As the train goes by,Otis uses the secret passage,
and then Luthor catches the guyfollowing Otis and uses
machinery to just push himin front of the train.
That's awesome.
And here we getthe best part of this movie.
In my opinion.
(39:02):
Gene Hackman.
This dude is just crushing it.
Lex is talking to Mr.
Smucker here,and he's wondering why
the greatestdiabolical leader of all time
is surrounded by nincompoopsor something like that.
And then Otis walks in and goes,oh, we were just talking
(39:23):
about you.
I was losing it.
This movie is funnierthan every single Marvel movie.
This movie is funnier.
Let me say this that almostevery single movie in the MCU.
The comic.
But it's better.
(39:43):
It's well-written.
The comedy in this movieis so much better written
than the comedyand everything in the MCU.
Because it never takes meout of the movie.
We're not sitting there ina fight with him making jokes.
See, I don't think so,because he's only funny
(40:16):
when he's putting Otis down.
Like you never there.
Well, there's onescene where he's funny
with Superman, but, like,I think a part of it is with Lex
Luthor.
He's always supposed to be cool,calm and collected.
So, like, it'sall one liners and it's.
And it's alwaysall these liners are in service
(40:37):
to what's goingon. Nothing is like.
Well, that just happened.
And we're not.
And he's not holding a gun tosomebody cracking jokes.
You know, like.
He I loved thisthat fucking Wiley coyote shit
(41:12):
they startedgetting into at one point.
But that's it.
It's a comic book movie.
This is shit.
Like in the early daysyou'd see Lex
Luther doing in the comic books.
Okay, he he's.
(41:39):
I've seen two.
Lex Luthor is in live action,and he's better than Jesse
Eisenberg.
Yeah.
Do you know what my father saidto me at six years old?
(42:14):
Get out.
That was.
That was so funny.
It was so good.
Yeah. No.
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Luther explains to me.
Test marker.
That land is a valuable,valuable commodity.
And it always will be.
And he's absolutely right.
And this is where we start.
He starts dropping the hintsof what his plan actually is.
His plan is abrilliant supervillain plan.
(42:58):
Well, it's also like, thisisn't just a guy who's like,
And I'mgoing to take over the world.
This isn't a guy who's like,I'm going to kill everybody.
I know this guy has a plan,and there's a reason
for the plan,and it's to make him rich.
And it's very clear howthis plan will make him rich.
There is no questioning that.
(43:20):
If he accomplisheswhat he wants to accomplish,
he will make a lot of money.
Yes. There's a lot of, like,super of, Batman
66 at times in this with like,the straight up being like,
(43:42):
I am a criminalmastermind behind,
but they're even doing this shitin Goldfinger
when they're going,come on, let's go partake
in our criminal activity.
The scene in Goldfinger wherethey're going around the table
going.
Yes, but I lost this much moneyon my criminal enterprise
(44:02):
this week.
It's like, okay, guys, like,we we.
Yeah, we get that.
Look at the Daily Planet.
Clark asks Lois to dinner,but she's busy.
And then he follows herinto the ladies restroom
and she's like a weirdo.
Yeah, well, because his jacketgets caught in the door
(44:32):
and instead of opening the door,he goes, Lois?
Lois,would you be a pet and mail
this for me?
Margot Kidder is also.
They have great chemistry.
Reeve and Kidder here,but so stupid. Oh.
That night,Lois Lane gets into a helicopter
(44:57):
for a story.
The pilot calls.
What happens a malfunction.
But this isn't reallya malfunction.
Someone just fucked up real bad.
Because somehow, like,the cables are still caught
on the helicopter.
That's not a helicoptermalfunction.
That's human error.
Someone is getting firedand probably arrested.
(45:19):
Oh, this.
After?
Yes, absolutely.
I love this homage.
As Supermanis about to get ready
and he looks at the payphoneat first,
and it's not a phone booth.
(45:41):
And so he just goes into the,the the spinning doors and.
Yeah. And he comes.
Yeah.
Comes out as Superman savesLois falling from the chopper.
Great.
Yeah.
(46:02):
I love this line from Lois Lanehere.
Why don't you likeyou've got me?
Who's got you?
That's a lot of fun.
Yeah.
(46:22):
Not Superman.
Yeah.
It does it.
The flying looks incrediblein this movie.
Yeah, yeah, I don't this,like, holds up and, like,
this looksbetter than certain movies
(46:42):
that are made.
Now when you have people fly.
By tits.
That's that's horrendous.
Oh. Oh, God.
Yeah, I do.
I also like thislittle detail that Superman
takes the time to tell Lois.
(47:04):
Don't be afraid of flying.
Statistically,it's very safe. He.
Yeah.
Which I love.
I don't mind that,because I think
(47:28):
they did a really good jobat the origin story.
Yeah.
It's very. It'sthere's a feeling of
satisfaction because it's like.
All right,if it went on a little too long
before we got Superman.
A little too low,a little longer,
I would have been like,let's go, guys.
(47:49):
I think they reallyintroduced it at the right time.
Yeah. Yes.
I like Superman, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Superman catches this guyclimbing the outside
of a buildingtrying to break in,
and he flies him to the jail.
(48:09):
He goes, they say confessions.
Good for the soul.
So this man should have a lotto say or whatever. Loved it.
Well, Superman, it'sgreat that you brought him here.
But that's not how the lawworks.
(48:32):
You should have goneto law school.
Because then Superman leavesa bunch of criminals,
including a full blownat the police.
(48:57):
Yeah. No one can get through.
That's a crime.
Superman.
The that he's doneso much damage to that street
by just trumping that.
Because it's the wayyou put it down gently.
Yeah.
(49:25):
Yes. That's aI have a big question
about that later on.
And what I thought was the worstpart of this movie.
Supermansaves a cat from a tree.
(49:48):
Love that.
The plane gets a planeand struck by lightning.
And it's apparently AirForce One.
All right, who caresif the pilot going fly?
Just fly.
He. Andhe just, like, turns his head.
(50:18):
He's like, just go.
Don't worry about it.
Everyone watchesthe news about Superman's heroic
heroics.
Luthor is furious.
He wants to challenge Superman.
This is what this isa great bit.
When he goes, Otis,bring me my rope.
(50:39):
And he brings this ropeinto the pool.
And they talking to us and Otis.
Next time, wait till I'mout of the pool net baby
delivers this gasp here,which had me rolling.
I had to pause the moviebecause I was laughing
so hard at that base. Oh,I was rolling.
Ned Beatty is so funnyin this movie.
(51:00):
Sure thing, Mr. Luthor.
I was he had me rolling thisentire movie.
Gene Hackman and NedBeatty were so good together.
Incredible.
Perry White wants answersabout the now unnamed Superman,
and Lois Lane gets a notethat says a friend is going
to meet at her place at eightthat night.
(51:23):
Lois Lane.
So who who who?
Lois Lane gets all dolled upand she's waiting for Superman.
As she lights upa cigaret, Superman inspects
or wants.
That's incredible.
(51:46):
Yeah.
It's very flirty.
It's very horny.
I loveI got a big pop when Lois goes.
Let's startwith your vital statistics.
Are you married?
(52:09):
Yeah.
And then?
And then the linethat I was stunned
was in this movie.
How big are you?
How tall are you?
I was like, holy.
(52:29):
I was like, oh my God.
Superman revealsthat he can't see through lead
because she goes, whatcolor panties are my wearing?
What color are my I love that.
She's like, oh, I'm sorry ifI made you feel uncomfortable.
He's like, no, it's just thatI can't see through led.
(52:51):
And then she movesand she goes pink.
I'm sorry if I madeyou feel uncomfortable.
It's like, you know what?
Very much so.
Well.
I don't care.
I was loving this.
This was excellent.
(53:14):
I know.
And it turns out he will diefrom something called
Kryptonite.
It's like, what are you doing?
The man you apparently love.
And you're telling the worldhow to kill him.
Superman takes Loisfor a flight.
(53:37):
Superman is totally wrongon this one
because she would be freezing.
She's like, let me get a jacket.
He's like, you don'tneed one. It's like, what?
I mean, at one point they'relike, flying through the fucking
like through space, like,no shimmy, shimmy frozen.
(53:58):
Yeah, but here's my question.
When they are flying,why are her feet not,
like, dangling?
How is shejust flying next to him?
Like point.
Oh my bed.
My bed.
(54:20):
Oh my Jesus.
And then as they're flying,he drops her.
Yeah.
Well, like, dude, why wouldn'tyou be carrying her?
Like, cradling her like thisthe whole time?
(54:41):
This is the worst partof the movie.
When she startsreciting this poem.
She just startsreciting some poem
while they're flying,and I'm like, okay.
Oh, what did we feel like?
Margot Kidder didn'thave enough lines or something.
This sucks.
(55:01):
Let's move it.
Yeah.
Yeah. Metropolises.
New York.
I can show you the world right?
(55:22):
And be a super, kind of manfrom a Krypton who knows
and understands, right?
That's what you start singing.
That's how he got.
That's how he got his name.
(55:45):
The squatter, blah, blah, blah.
To do that while Buddha. Buddha.
But, he's got, like, fuckingwraparound sunglasses on. Now.
God fucking mullet.
Is is real American music.
Yeah.
(56:12):
Right after us.
Yeah.
Well.
(56:39):
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Movie magic.
Very good.
Soft G would be how I said it.
You said it as a hard G.
Yeah, I'll give you a hard G.
Yeah.
Lois, this is whereLois calls him a Superman.
(57:01):
And that's when she realizesthat'll be his name.
And when Clark shows upand Lois is distracted,
Clark asksif she's been smoking weed.
Yeah.
He goes, Lois, you haven't been,have you?
I was, I was losing it.
I was like,this is the greatest movie.
This is one this.
All right.
Full.
Honestly, first time I sawthis movie was this week.
(57:23):
I watched it twice this week,like I usually do.
This became one of my top fivesuperhero movies of all time.
I loved this, I lovedevery second of this movie.
Yeah.
Well, I'm excited.
(57:44):
Yeah.
But I don't know howshe doesn't see it, because she
walks out of the door with him,standing up
with his glasses off.
(58:06):
She has bad eyesight, I guess.
Oh, yeah.
And yeah.
And a tizzy.
Oh, yeah.
(58:27):
Oh, yeah.
I mean, listen,Spider-Man in general,
there's a lot of likeyou took that from Superman.
The newspaper aspect of it,like Perry
White is very similar to J.
Jonah Jameson at times like.
And I'm a big Spider-Man guy,but you can absolutely see
they took a lotbecause he's your friendly
(58:48):
neighborhood Spider-Man.
Exactly.
Like, hey, we've said it before,Stan Lee is the Jimmy Page
of comic books.
Yeah.
Lex Luther reads the papersand knows
(59:10):
that meteorites from Kryptonwill hurt Superman.
Lex fakes a car accident,and the military police
find the woman.
This is so funny.
Well, like.
All right, we need a deep chestmassage and mouth to mouth.
And he goes,oh, I'll do it. I'm the chief.
But he goes, I would never askone of my men to do something.
I'm not willing to do. My knees.
(59:30):
This is again, it's so silly.
And then Otis, it.
Well, causeshe's the woman's test smoker.
Yeah, exactly.
Because Otis screwed upthe plan.
(59:52):
Because Otis, he goes. Yep.
I planted the bombs.
3867 117.
And he goes,what about the fourth one?
Who knows what what fourth one?
He goes, you know,38, 67, 11 seven.
And Otishas the written on his arm.
And he goes, I guessmy arm wasn't long enough.
And then when they're fighting,he goes.
(01:00:19):
He just goes, I'll show you.
What do you wantto see? A long arm.
And he starts reaching backto fight.
I'm there because then wecontinue our Looney Tunes stuff
as Luther and Otis hatchanother plan as Truckers and Mr.
Smucker climbs up the bridgein the dress with just
a tool belt over the treads.
(01:00:41):
Yeah.
They just funny.
They sent herto do all the dirty work.
It's so funny, Lois Lane.
(01:01:03):
Questionsomeone why they're selling
Luther all the land,and the guy's like.
Because he'spaying an outrageous price.
Why would I not?
We then get PerryWhite encouraging Clark Kent
to be a little more aggressive.
And we also learnthat a meteorite was stolen
from the museum.
That's just a little thingthey just throw in there.
(01:01:23):
That's how they explain thatLex Luther got the Kryptonite,
you know, and I like that.
They just kind ofthrow it in there.
We don't actually see themrobbing the museum,
but they tell youbecause we we do see early on
or a little earlierthat the meteorite or
the Kryptonitewas found in Ethiopia.
And wouldn't you know it,it was stolen
and brought to a museum. Whoa.
(01:01:43):
Luthorcommunicates through to Superman
through a frequencythat only him and dogs can hear.
And during this, Perry Whiteis just rambling, and Clark
just leaves.
That Supermanthen spins so fast,
(01:02:06):
he drills a holethrough the ground,
making his way all the wayto Lex Luther's hideout.
He kicks the door in and Luthergoes, that's open! Come on in.
I think GeneHackman was so funny in this,
(01:02:28):
just so unbelievablyfunny in this.
Lutherexplains his plan to Superman.
His plan is to blow LA,San Francisco,
and San Diego off the map,doing America all a favor
because he owns all the desertland.
He'll then ownthe entire West Coast.
And this is wherewe get the great Otis Berg.
(01:02:49):
Well, Mr. Smucker has a place.
It's the little pieceof land, Mr.
Luthor, because, you see,she has test marker peaks.
And of course, we have a boobjoke because it's test marker
peaks and there's mountains.
That's how I took itas a little boob joke.
But, yeah, he tried to.
He tried to just write in OtisPark and one of the areas
(01:03:12):
Otis Berg.
Then we seewhat makes Lex Luthor so good
is that he's able to outsmartSuperman.
Yeah.
(01:03:38):
Yeah, yeah.
There's one missile goingat West and one going out east.
And I know you can't stopboth of them. So.
Yeah, because he.
He tricks on me.
He's holding a where's thedetonator or whatever,
and he looks at the wrong thing.
(01:03:59):
And then Superman'slooking around and he opens it
up, and it's just Kryptonite.
And it's just like Kryptonite.
Chain a necklacethat they just put on Superman
and throw him into the water.
Yeah, probably.
(01:04:20):
Yeah.
But again,what do you think Lex
Luther would have donein the comic books at this time?
Do you think you would have puta Kryptonite necklace on him
and shot him in the face?
Or put a character.
Exactly.
Miss Tess Walker tells Lexthat her mother lives
in Hackensack, Hackensack.
He does this great thing wherehe just looks at his watch.
(01:04:40):
He goes.
Test marker agrees to helpSuperman only if he saves her
mother first,and then before she takes
the necklace off of him,she kisses him and he's like,
what the fuck?
Because I didn't thinkI'd get the chance.
(01:05:07):
Really, you wouldn't have,you know.
Superman catches the missileheading for Hackensack.
One thing I really enjoyed,another thing
that really kept popping me inthis movie, was when Lex
Luthor would go to a smart guy.
He justhates this two underlings,
(01:05:30):
and that makes itso much better.
Yeah.
The missile hits the San Andreasfault line.
Oh, shit.
Here we go again.
Just had to follow the train.
Superman. I.
(01:05:56):
That's great.
And also,what is Jimmy Olsen doing?
He's just taking randomphotographs.
Yeah, likethey're not near each other.
They went out there together,and then she's like,
I'm gonna drive around.
You do whatever you do.
(01:06:18):
Everything'sfalling into the ground.
Superman pushes the groundback up at one point.
Yeah.
(01:06:39):
You then saves a suit, a schoolbus, he access train tracks.
I love that.
Yeah.
The dam breaks, Jimmy falls,Superman saves him just in time.
But then he's like,you'll be safe here.
No we won't.
Why would you thinkthat? Take him with you.
Lois Lane runs out of gas,but for some reason, she keeps
(01:07:06):
trying to start the car.
Like, onceyou see why you like your card
and install it ran out of gas.
Once it's on empty,you can't sit there
trying to start the car.
I don't knowif it's safer to be in the car,
(01:07:30):
out of the car at that point.
She does die in the car.
She does die in the car.
This is a legitimatelyhorrifying way to go.
This is terrifying.
Yeah, but Superman createsa dam of rocks.
(01:07:50):
We get some good miniature workand some bad miniature
work here.
Like some of this miniature workwith the houses
looks really good.
Some of the rocks,it just looks like little rocks.
Yeah, yeah.
Supermanis all proud of himself.
And then he remembers Lois.
It's like, oh, God.
Oh, shit.
(01:08:12):
And he.
Now. I get I thinkI know where you're going with
what you're going to say abouthow he, like, reverses time.
From what I read,that was supposed to be
the end of the second movie.
(01:08:35):
Yes, yes.
But I'm also wondering again,I haven't seen the second movie,
but part of the whole thing withJor-El is Daryl is saying,
you can't go back,you can't change human history.
So I wouldn'tbe surprised if him doing
(01:08:57):
this is what leads to thosebanished into the Phantom Zone
to come back.
Yes. Yeah.
(01:09:33):
That's why.
(01:09:54):
But that's whyI think they filmed
these two movies together.
Because I thinkthis was supposed
to lead into the consequencesthat lead to the second movie.
It's.
It's not a matter of true.
It's right.
Or if I'm correct or incorrect.
(01:10:15):
But like Superman.
Yeah, you reverse time.
But as far as I can tell,all those people still died
because we didn't see yougo back and create that damn.
It seems like Supermansacrificed multiple people
just to save Lois here.
(01:10:38):
That's that. What?
That'swhat I took from the ending.
Yeah.
Like, I wish he did itright to the point where.
(01:11:03):
Right where he stood there fora second. So proud of himself.
What he did was you reverse itright before he wasted
too much timepatting himself on the back.
Well, no, it doesn't make sense.
No, it doesn't.
I think he's actually rotatingthe earth the other way.
(01:11:42):
Yes. Yeah.
But again,this is a very comic book thing
to do, though.
I didn't hate it.
I know some people don't likeit. I don't hate this if I'm.
But that's also becauseI'm assuming what happens.
And if I'm wrong then I can go,oh that's bad.
(01:12:03):
But because I looked it upand it said they film
the first two together,I go, that has to be a reason,
because they did warn himthroughout the whole movie.
Don't do this.
And I.
Yeah, and I think we will.
(01:12:23):
Isn't that crazy?
But it's also like,I know they had some production
issues in between these movies,so who knows.
What what?
Superman flies off.
Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lanestart to kind of speculate
(01:12:45):
is he is Clark Kent. Superman?
Yeah. Oh.
Yeah.
(01:13:08):
That's my Superman.
Superman.
He flies Otis and LexLuthor to a prison.
Luther removes his wigand just declares something.
I'm not quite sure.
But again, you don'tjust take them to prison.
There's processes that have togo through with this.
(01:13:30):
But yeah, Superman flies offand we go to the credits.
I really liked this, Andy.
I had a really good timewith this movie.
I thinkit's a great Superman movie.
(01:13:52):
I think even though it'sa pretty long movie,
we don't waste time in this.
We will find out next week. Yes.
(01:14:16):
Good.
It is.
(01:14:38):
Yes. Me too.
My hopes are high.
She got a letter box.
You can follow us onLetterboxd at the Royds Band.
(01:15:00):
Andy, I really like this.
I liked the humor.
I liked the story.
I like the wholesomeness.
I like thatthey lean into the fact
that this is a comic book movie.
This does get dragged downby that little poetry section
in the middle.
And again, I am hopingI'm correct with my thinking
on the end of the movieleading into the second one.
(01:15:22):
I thinkthis is a four star movie.
That was easier than me.
After a couple of tequilas.
A couple of shots of tequilaand I'm going cray cray.
All right.
Yeah.
Very good.
(01:15:44):
Andy, I have four trivia.
Dude, that's really good.
That's good math to me.
Really?
I'll go first.
How many known galaxies doesJor-El say there are?
27, 28, 29, 30.
(01:16:07):
It is not 27.
It is 28. Yes.
Very good.
You nailed it.
It's not the last one.
(01:16:36):
14. Milk.
Look at me.
I know, I know.
What song are the kidslistening to when they pull up
after Clark beats them by foot?
The yellow Rose of Texas,the ballad of Davy Crockett.
Moments to remember.
(01:16:58):
Rock Around the Clock.
It is not the balladof Davy Crockett.
Is it the.
Is it the yellow rose of Texas?
Is it moments to rememberor is it rock around the clock?
It is not moments to remember.
(01:17:21):
It is not the yellow roseof Texas. It.
It is rock around the clock.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
34. 26. 42.
(01:17:50):
Nailed it.
Dang! How much money doesJimmy Olsen get paid per week?
(01:18:11):
$30? $35, $40, $50. $30.
It is not $30.
Is not $35.
It is $40 a week.
I have no idea.
(01:18:34):
That I know itbased on my next question.
It definitelytakes place in the 70s.
Yeah, I saw that.
That was pretty crazy.
Was it just Richard Donner?
(01:19:10):
Was it Francis FrancisFord Coppola?
Was it Steven Spielberg?
Yeah.
(01:19:32):
What song is playingwhen Lois Lane honks her horn
at the gas stationshe's listening to on the radio.
Give a little bit, rich girl.
Fly like an eagle.
Go your own way.
It is.
Give a little bit by Supertramp.
(01:19:52):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Those are all songs from 1977.
Yeah, just like the other one.
Were all songs from 1955.
So I very good.
As you know, my dad was born.
(01:20:12):
Yeah.
Because I think when he,when he's 18, it's 1955,
and then 12 years later,it's 1977.
That's what I kind of assumedfrom the movie.
You're right.
Look at us.
(01:20:34):
I wrote a song also Andy.
I also have a pick to flip.
It's tails, brother bear.
No, it's what I do.
I'll go first.
(01:20:55):
My song is called what a man.
What a mighty, mighty good man.
Now my song is calledwhat a man.
And I'm going to be honest,I did something different
this week.
I just kind of focusedon making a beat.
I really, like,sat down with the 808
setting on the keyboardand the Midi and
focused on making a beat firstand then just kind of built it
from there.
The vocals and the lyrics were atotal afterthought, you know?
(01:21:17):
All done.
After all the music was recordedjust to see
what I could fit in here. Sonot, you know, there are
lyrics, obviously, but again,the beat was really
what I focused onand I'm actually just kind of
rambling now,which is kind of silly, I guess.
But anyway, here's my song.
It's called The Water Manand it is about Superman.
The movie.
(01:21:39):
He's six foot four.
Chisel. Joe,and just won't look him
over you of your drawers.
(01:22:00):
He's taking timein his red tights.
His only weakness is Kryptonite.
He can't seem to lift.
(01:22:27):
He does what my mum says.
He don't want no one. Dad.
He keeps a clear head.
He sees no point in violence.
And you can't keep him silent.
No matter how hard you try.
And he'll keep those peoplefrom dying.
He can't save everyoneunder a red sun.
(01:22:53):
Something's been done.
And Lex hasn't been up at home.
It's close.
Where will you go?
Sent down to earth.
Well,you'll never be alone. You.
Landed it close.
(01:23:36):
Where will you go?
Sent down to earth.
Where you'll never be alone.
Six foot four.
Tears of joy.
It just won't look. You know.
Will you?
Love you.
Trust.
(01:23:57):
That was my song.
Cold water. Man.
What a man.
What a mighty, mighty good man.
(01:24:20):
Yeah.
Focus mostly on the beat.
There.
Yeah, it was a little weird.
Yeah, I know,I know you do, baby.
But, yeah.
(01:24:40):
I like it.
Very cool.
(01:25:02):
I like it. Hey!You can't save everyone.
(01:26:16):
You can't interferewith everything.
But if I can't.
Then why shouldn't I?
Dozens of birds show upwhen it flies.
(01:26:37):
But I'm here for a reason.
And thatreason is not crystal clear.
It's.
Me? And.
(01:26:59):
What if I say everyone?
(01:27:24):
What if I interferewith everything?
I'll just turn back timeand away with my love
I will fly.
I was one year for a reason.
(01:27:48):
And that reason is crystalclear.
I forgot I am a Godand I got no consequences. You.
(01:28:35):
I liked it a lot.
(01:28:56):
I like thatthe guitar sounds great.
Yeah.
Oh, it sounded really.
(01:29:17):
I think the guitar sounds great.
Oh, yeah.
Sounds cool. I like that.
I like that a lot.
Thank you.
You don't.
We owe John Williams money.
That's. That's unfortunate.
(01:29:38):
And we just keepracking up our bill.
The John Williams, emcees.
Yeah.
Still alive.
He's 93.
(01:30:04):
Oh, he.
Wikipedia doesn't change us.
Is an American composer.
He is acelebrated American composer.
No. Yeah, he is a goat.
Like a legitimate, like,greatest of all time.
Yes, I noticed that.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
And he just stands on the edge.
(01:30:24):
It's crazy.
Yeah, and he eats hair.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that is sucha good question.
(01:30:44):
I'm going to answer it.
It's Superman two.
Of, you know, I think you learnthey can find out next week
if we're going to watch it.
If one of us watched.
Yeah.
Yeah.
(01:31:05):
Although the Donner versionis apparently very different.
Apparently the Donner cut,they actually went and like,
there's, like unfinished scenesin it and stuff.
Yeah.
And they like, brought Marlonthe Marlon
Brando scenes back into it.
It's very, very different.
But I am interested.
(01:31:27):
If I can findthe Donner, I will do both.
I will still probablyonly write one song.
I don't know how differentthey are.
That becomes the problem,because we do run the risk of
(01:31:48):
just doing the same movie twice.
Let's see, where did.
Well, find out.
We're doing Superman to Andy.
Where can they find our music?
(01:32:11):
Oh. You go to Instagram.
(01:32:45):
You go to TikTok.
You go to YouTube,you go to Reddit.
You type in the Royds band.
There we are. There we be.
Click the link and you'll seeeverything we post.
Mostly just promotingthis podcast and our music.
Wow. Send us an email at RoydsRevue at gmail.com.
We'd love to hear from you.
Wherever you're listening to us,give us a five star
(01:33:07):
rating and Revue.
Send us an emailto comment down below,
comment on Spotify, do all thatgreat stuff.
Yeah.
Me too.
(01:33:32):
The James Gunn version.
I'm looking forward to it.
But one thing I really likeabout this
is that it's just Superman.
And you already seein this new one
there's like Green Lanternand there's a Hawkgirl.
I think.
And I'm like,just give me soup.
Just give me soup.
(01:33:55):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's this shit anyway? But.
(01:34:17):
Build your butt, like,build your single adventures.
And then afteryou have a bunch of successes,
find a reasonto bring them together.
Through.
Good. Yeah.
Hey, they do good.
Exactly.
(01:34:46):
Well. So.
Fascinating.
Insight is always.
All right.
Next week,we're doing Superman two.
Thank you forlistening. Bye, everybody.
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