April 4, 2024 • 39 mins
On this special episode of the podcast, we have Chuck Ragan of Hot Water Music joining us live from across the pond as the band kicks off their 30th-anniversary tour. Join us as we traverse the Atlantic with tales of touring life and unlock the secrets to the evolution of a band that has weathered three decades. Buckle up for a ride through the tracks of Hot Water Music's upcoming album 'Vows,' releasing on the cusp of summer. But if you think the music is all we've got, guess again—Chuck waxes lyrical about wilderness survival, rates his Primitive Survival skills with a laugh, and shares an unexpected tale of a piranha encounter that's sure to hook you. As the lines blur between the punk scene and the serenity of fishing, we're reminded that the rhythms of nature often mirror the beats of our lives. So, whether you're here for the melodies, the memories, or a mix of both, this episode is a catch you won't want to release. As always, brought to you by Sailor Jerry!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What up, chuck?
How are you man?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
What's up, buddy, how you living.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I'm just taking in this intense promo shot that
Tito sent me right here.
This thing is who's that?
That's you right there, my man.
Oh, coming out of the shadows,all right, so here we go.
(00:27):
Chuck Reagan, out of theshadows, all right.
So here we go.
Chuck reagan, say the jerrypodcast.
It is a pleasure, my man, tohave you on as a guest.
Thank you so much for takingthe time.
How you doing?
How's the vibe?
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm good, I'm fired up.
Man, we're in.
Uh, we're in Leeds right now atBrutonel.
You've been here, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
And we got two nights in a row.
Tonight's the first of two.
Yeah, we've been rolling aroundover in the UK.
We got a Willem Scream with usand Cat Bite and we've been
having a ball man.
It's kind of, uh, just kickingoff the whole campaign for the
(01:09):
30 year anniversary of hot watermusic and been playing some of
the new songs off the new recordand that's been a blast, yeah.
But I mean, oddly enough for meon this run, I've been sleeping
good, eating well.
(01:29):
You know I feel pretty goodcompared to how I typically feel
on the road, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, man, I mean anytime you're sleeping good on
the road, anytime you're eatinggood in England, that's a
blessing in itself.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
OK.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And you know, obviously you know.
First of all, congrats on 30years of the band.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I mean it's an amazing accomplishment, man.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, it's wild you know and kicking it off.
Kicking it off in England, ofcourse.
A very special place.
Do you remember your first UKtour?
What was that like?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I mean, it wasn't like this.
Yeah, I'm trying to rememberwhat year it was.
I feel like the first time wecame over here we only played a
couple shows.
Time we came over here, we onlyplayed a couple shows.
Um, it would have had to havebeen, you know, maybe 99 or 2000
(02:31):
, maybe.
Yeah, I think I rememberplaying the garage, uh, in
london, that place, um, or inthe early, early days, um it was
.
It was why it was pretty wild.
Oh yeah, uh, who do we hook upwith?
Some of the guys from that band, the tone, um sean, that record
(02:53):
label, rugger bugger, uh, wasaround and, uh, yeah, big sean
from hard skin, uh, like thethat that was.
That was a good experience.
Um, you know, I the food aroundin on this island definitely
has gotten better over the years.
(03:14):
I know that mildly, mildly, how?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
how do you feel?
I want you to be honest here.
How do you feel about theEnglish breakfast?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Huge fan, big fan, really Big fan Come on.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, disgusting.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Beans on toast.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Beans on toast.
Well, actually you kind oftrack.
As a beans on toast guy, I'mgoing to be honest.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Oh, I love the rashers and eggs, but I mean,
you know, nowadays, for thelongest time, I mean most of the
stuff I eat's just, you know, Itry to stick to pretty clean
food.
You know, just straight meat.
You know veggies and fruit.
You know, I feel, seem to feelbetter yeah, good, good, how's?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
uh, you know you.
You're on tour right now.
You played london, you got twoshows in leeds.
Obviously you're probably doinga bunch of press with the
30-year anniversary going on.
How's your voice holding up sofar and what's your routine at
nowadays?
What are you doing before ashow?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I mean, I try to do some warm-ups, you know, and try
to stay diligent with, uh, withdoing that, you know, and, uh,
mostly just drinking blackcoffee and water, uh, more water
than black coffee.
But, um, um, yeah, you know,typically usually, um, just
(04:39):
drink a little whiskey and and,uh, you know, do whiskey and and
, uh, you know, do do a littlewarmups.
But, uh, my voice is all right,you know it's, it's not uh, I'm
definitely not a hundredpercent right now, but I, I mean
, I feel I feel great and thePMA is there but uh, if I'm
(04:59):
being honest with myself.
You know, I feel like my voiceis kind of in my in, the uh, 70%
range, you know.
Well, I mean my voice is kindof in the 70% range.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, I mean you're just kind of starting out, so
probably by the end of the tourit'll get up to 80, maybe 90.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's how it goes right.
You get to that last show andyou're like all right, I'm ready
to go.
Tip top, Time to go home.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, man, it's always, it's always.
Uh, you know, sleep is a crazything for me.
On tour too, I don't get a lotof it, but I noticed when my
voice starts to go like thefirst thing I'll do is just try
to get some rest and it's likethe number one thing that brings
it back is always just numberone man.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of people don't realizethat I I got some uh vocal
coaching here years back in oneof the early, early hot water
recording sessions and went andvisited uh, mark Baxter I don't
know if you've known that dudeuh in Boston he wrote years ago
(06:01):
he wrote a book called the rockand roll singers survival manual
, and ago he wrote a book calledthe Rock and Roll Singer's
Survival Manual and he's abadass and he taught me early on
.
You know he's like a lot ofpeople don't realize.
But like tea, honey, this thatlozenges, like it's all a myth,
like it may soothe you but it'snot going to deswell a swollen
(06:27):
larynx, it's not going tomagically bring your voice back.
Really, the two things thatbring your voice back is sleep
and water, and it's easy toforget that shit, though, when
you're out rock and rolling.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It's amazing what a cold beer will do oh yeah, no
doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
There's been many times where I'm just like I
don't know how I'm gonna do thisunless I take about five or six
shots right now and and uh,just numb my way through this
thing and get through it.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Awesome man.
Well, you know I want to wrapwith you about Vows.
You know you got a new recordcoming out May 10th and that's
your 10th studio album, right,yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Dude, that's crazy dude.
Congrats, man, Thank youbrother.
The reaction so far has beengreat and it's because the songs
are great.
It just feels like a.
You know it's a special time inthe band right now.
It feels like a special record.
Um singles we got menace out,burn forever.
Uh.
Remnants has got turnstile guyson it and fences has got thrice
(07:38):
on it.
All four awesome fucking songs.
Fences is probably my favoriteof the four, I think, just
because it's it's just, it justsounds massive uh what uh,
what's your favorite of the fourso far?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
oh, that's, that's I mean.
That's always tough for me, youknow, because, like I love the
vibe of all of them, I love, youknow, what we, what we
documented and what we put down.
And then, of course, like youknow, when you get down to the
lyrics and like the depth andthe brevity of the songs, like
they all mean something, youknow what I mean.
(08:16):
It's always tough to pick afavorite.
Um, if I had one right now ofjust playing these new songs
live, menace has been a blast toplay.
I got to, if anything, rightbefore we start that song, I
have to mentally go all right,all right, just control, slow it
(08:41):
down, because I just get almostoverly amped up and like ready
to, ready to rip into it, and soI have to kind of, you know,
almost amp myself up to to bringit down a little bit, you know
(09:04):
yeah, yeah yeah, just havinghaving a blast, uh, playing,
playing these new tunes, and andI mean you know, uh, it's, it's
, it's not our responsibility orcare to you know, wonder, you
know what people think of it.
You know, wonder, you know whatpeople think of it.
You know, if they like it,great.
(09:26):
If they don't like it, that'sfine too.
Uh, you know, but it I I'venoticed that the response is
good.
Uh, you know, which is alwaysfun.
You know, it's always exciting.
Uh, you know how it goes, man.
I mean, like, a lot of peopleknow a lot of this material and
we're going up there trying topick.
(09:47):
You know what 20 songs we'regoing to play out of I don't
even know how many, and you knowall the ones that you're
usually the most excited to playare the ones that not as many
people know at all.
You know ones that not as manypeople know at all.
(10:07):
You know and you know.
So it's always cool to you know, just put out some new songs
and already see people and hearpeople singing lyrics back to
you is pretty heavy duty, man.
We feel pretty damn lucky.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, that's awesome man.
You know, and there's there's alot of uh, a lot of
collaborations on this album.
You know, you got Dallas greencity in color.
You got the interrupters onthere, I noticed uh, I don't, I
don't, I don't remember gettinga call Of any type.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, I'm sorry man.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Oh, would have loved that I might have to check with
our managers, because surelythere must have been an email or
something.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Oh well, we'll have to hit that on the next one.
Yeah, man, you know, what'spretty cool about all the
collaborations to me is just howgenuine and kind of organically
it all happened, because I, youknow, we were done with the
record and we were confidentwith it and we were fine with it
(11:20):
as it was, you know, you know,and, and all our work was done
before any kind of agenda orplans or, you know, asks were
happening, you know, for thosecollaborations.
And so much of it happened.
(11:40):
And you know Brian McTernan,you know, I mean he's, he's been
in the game a long time andhe'd worked with Turnstile
before.
You know the Thrice, of course,you know, we've known, you know
, those dudes for ages, dallas,of course, and the Interrupters
(12:01):
I had just done a tour with them, you know, and all those ideas
kind of came up kind of after,after we were done, you know,
which was really cool, sohumbled, you know, to have
people care, you know, to be onit.
And, yeah, I'm stoked, stoked,the way everything came out.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Awesome man.
Yeah, I can't wait to hear.
It.
Is the?
Is the Interrupter song?
Is that a ska?
Is it a ska song?
Yeah, I can't wait to hear itIs the Interrupter song.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
is that a ska song?
It is a ska song, but can't sayit's a good one, because we're
not good at playing ska at all.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I was going to say is there a good ska?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, it took 30 years to realize that we are not
good at playing ska and that weprobably made the right
decision for not starting a skaband.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Amazing, Amazing.
You know, talking about 30years of the band, you know, I
know there's a lot of of hardwork, a lot of ups and downs
that go into that.
And if a young band comes up toyou, you know, and they're
asking kind of, you know, ifyou're looking to sustain a rock
(13:30):
and roll band on the level ofhot water music, you know what
are some words of wisdom thatyou could impart in a young band
that's looking to sustainlongevity in a music career.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
A hundred percent sustained longevity in a music
career?
A hundred percent, I mean?
That's a tough question toanswer these days, because our
industry is changing so much.
In other words, the answer thatI give right now is probably
different than the answer that Iwould have given you know, 15
(14:07):
years ago, and it may bedifferent than the answer that I
might give five years from now.
Right, but the couple thingsthat I feel like that I feel
like is timeless advice that Icould give, for lack of a better
term, is for one uh, find yourtribe man.
(14:30):
Find your people.
Um, you know, be confident inwhat you're doing.
But in terms of finding you knowwhere you feel confident and
comfortable, uh, you know, forus, it was the punk rock scene.
It was, you know, a DIYmovement, and that's just where
(14:54):
we felt the most comfortable,where we felt at home, and, you
know, once you find that youknow, nurture it and be true to
it.
The best advice I could giveyou know young bands, for
longevity, though, would besimply communication within,
(15:17):
within, within your group,within that tribe.
You know where that's.
That's key.
You know, hot water.
We've had tons of up and downs,we broke up a couple times and,
in the end, the thing thatwould always bring us back
together and the thing thatkeeps us together now and will
(15:39):
keep us together for the rest ofour days, is just being honest
with each other andcommunication.
That's truly it.
You know, as far as connectingwith people, that was always the
most important thing to me.
(16:00):
You know, I never feltcomfortable with like a
separation between band andcrowd, as in.
This is what we do.
We deserve this, and you'rethere, we're here To me.
I always looked at it as we'reall in this room doing the same
thing.
(16:22):
If I wasn't on stage, I would bedown on the floor watching some
other band that I like.
We're all here for the samereason, which is to, you know,
leave our problems at the door.
You know, use music as a formof therapy or a tool to come
together and figure out our ownshit, figure out our problems,
(16:43):
figure out how to, how to betterour neighborhood, better our
families, better our communities.
Right, that's, that was whatbrought me, uh, to music in the
first place.
Um, you know, but to do thatand like, for me, growing up,
the the the best way that I'vefound to do that is connecting
(17:07):
with these people that arespending their hard-earned money
and energy and time to meet youhalfway and come to these shows
.
You know so, connecting withyour crowds, connecting with
your people, is absolutelycrucial.
With your people is absolutelycrucial.
(17:31):
And just playing from yourheart, you know, doing it for
those reasons seem to, moreoften than not, keep me on the
track that I needed to be on,you know, Hell, yeah, man,
that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, I mean, communication is definitely the
key, you know, connecting withyour art, with your audience,
with everyone around you doingthings for the right reasons.
That's awesome, man.
Really cool insight on 30 yearsof the band and how you guys
kept it going.
We got a couple questions herefrom the internet.
(18:00):
Okay, Okay.
I'm going to hit you with thisone.
This one's coming from at NastyNachos.
Ok, he says dear, dear Chuck,outside of being one of my
favorite musicians, I know youare quite the outdoorsman.
Are you a fan of wildernesssurvival shows like Naked and
(18:20):
Afraid?
And if you were asked, wouldyou ever appear on one?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I would never appear on one.
No, I don't.
I don't really watch movies, Idon't really watch TV at all.
I mean, at home I'm a 3.30, 4am kind of guy and I'm either
working on the house, theproperty or I'm out on the boat.
But getting up that early andworking the way that I do also
(18:51):
means I come home, spend timewith my family, eat dinner, and
I'm usually asleep by 8, eight,30, nine o'clock, you know.
So, uh, no, no, I don't reallywatch those TV shows.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Uh, no naked and afraid.
No naked and afraid for you.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now, now would I go out bymyself and spend some time naked
in the woods?
Hell yeah, I would.
But, um, I don't need nobodyfilming it.
Nobody needs to see that anyway.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
so what do you think?
Uh, so primitive survivalrating is something they talk
about on these shows.
Okay, just like a.
They call it a psr and it'slike a number from one to ten
about like what skill set youhave, how you could survive in
the outdoors, on a scale of oneto 10, don't you in the middle
(19:43):
of you know, crazy ass,wilderness, canada.
What do you think your survivalrating is at?
What do you give yourself?
What's your PSR?
I have no.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I have no idea.
I don't have no idea.
You know I do hunt, I'm ahunter, I'm an angler, you know.
I know I could build a shelter,find water there you go.
You know hunt and clean game.
So I don't know, I don't know,I don't know how they rate that,
(20:19):
or you know that's gonna clockin at like a 7.9 8.1 so yeah,
okay around there, I think yougo.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, I think you know how are you in hand-to-hand
combat with, like say, a bearor you know any sort of wild
animal that might come along?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Depends on the animal and if they had a good
breakfast or not.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
All right.
One more question Are piranhasreal and have you ever caught
one?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Piranhas are absolutely real and, yes, I have
caught a piranha before down inSouth America.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Are they?
Is it like the movies?
Do they flesh eat?
Just boom, or is it not?
Not like that?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I can only imagine, I'm sure that if you landed in,
you know, in a school of themand you know I, I've always been
told that they're very muchkind of like, cause I've swam in
bodies of water that have hadpiranhas in it and you know I
(21:24):
was with locals who said it'sfine.
So hey, you know I Classiclocals.
Went it wrong, you know, andyeah, and when, meanwhile, a
couple hours prior, like I hadcaught and was holding a piranha
, but uh, yeah, they're, uh,they're gnarly, they're gnarly
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species, but I, I, I was alwaysunder the impression that
they're very much like, like,have you ever kicked up a ground
hornet's nest, you know, or oror had been around bees?
And then all of a sudden, like,if one, if one, stings you and
they let off that, thatpheromone or whatever it is that
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they, they do, and all of asudden they all sting you at
once.
Um, I'd imagine it's probablythe same with piranhas if you
find your place, find yourselfin the wrong place at the wrong
time, you know, but I I've nevereaten one, but I hear they're
actually really good to eatthough too.
So they seem like a big gnarly,uh, bluegill or, you know, big
(22:30):
gnarly panfish.
to me they're beautiful yeahbeautiful, beautiful species
what is the?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
what is the best fish to eat?
What is it?
Is it, oh, trout?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
is it salmon?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
is it ahi?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
yeah, it totally depends on your taste.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I mean uh, what about to you?
What's your favorite?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
oh man, um, you know, sheep's head, uh, not our
californ sheep's head, uh, notour California sheep's head, but
, uh, florida sheep's head issome of the best to me, um, it,
that's, that's a really, reallygood table fare.
I do love salmon.
Uh, that's a completely, youknow, like pink meat and, and
(23:15):
you know, white flesh fish aretwo completely different tastes,
but I do enjoy salmon.
I eat a lot of salmon.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Hell yeah, all right, we got a couple of pick-ems
here.
We're just going to pick one orthe other, whatever you prefer.
We got Fugazi or the Ramones.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, I'm going to say Fugazi for me.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Nice, bad religion or the Descendants?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Bad religion.
Sorry Bill, Sorry, Sorry Milo,Sorry guys.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Goodfellas or Casino.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Goodfellas.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Dave Grohl or Eddie Vedder.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Dave Grohl probably.
Sorry, eddie.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
All right, and I think everyone wants to know
this.
Dave Grohl or Eddie Vedder?
Dave Grohl probably.
Sorry, eddie, all right, and Ithink everyone wants to know
this.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
If you had to pick between music or fishing.
What would it be?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
No comment.
That means fishing, that meansfishing.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Well, no, not necessarily.
I mean like I know that if youdrop my ass off in the middle of
wherever you said you were, youknow music's not going to save
my life.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
That's true.
Music ranks really low on thePSR rating scale.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
If we're talking the PSR rating scale, I'm going to
have to go with fishing.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
All right, our rating scale.
I'm gonna have to go withfishing.
Yeah, all right, speaking of,we got a couple hypotheticals
here to wrap up the show.
I know you got a gig tonight inleeds so I I appreciate your
time.
My man.
Um, you know bill and ted.
Okay, hypothetical.
Here they show up with a timemachine.
Yeah, they say chuck where youwant to go.
Where's the first place you'regoing and why?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
oh wow, man, that is a tough one, that is really
tough.
Uh, you know, malibu wasprobably a pretty incredible
place before people messed itall up you want to go to?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
you want to go to malibu before people.
Yes, that that I could imaginethat that probably was a a
pretty special spot uh, you knowwhat's funny about that
question is no one ever likeanswers like oh, I want to go
stop this or stop that, or it'salways like about going
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somewhere like where it was coolor before it got blown out.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
It's so funny, man that's right, because because I
don't, I don't know what wecould stop.
You know, it seems like mankind, by nature, is just here to
absolutely ruin this planet.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
So yeah, yeah, all right.
So hypothetical number two herethis is this is a good one.
Uh, you get a call from yourmanager, all right.
He says uh, chuck, I just gotthe craziest call from the red
hot chili peppers.
Okay, anthony ketis is out,anthony Kiedis is out and the
band wants you to sing for theRed Hot Chili Peppers.
(26:21):
We're going one album cycle,you got one album cycle world
tour, but it's just you, justvocals, no guitar singing for
the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Instant millionaire, you'regoing to make some bank, do you
do it?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
oh, yeah, absolutely, why not?
Why not, hell yeah it would, itwould, it would take some
homework, but yeah, absolutelyyou could pull it off.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
You could pull it off for sure.
What about?
You're on tour.
You get a call from yourfishing buddy that Damien, the
300-pound trout that's escapedyou for years, is back in the
local stream.
You're on tour, the shows aregoing okay.
It's not a tour you haven'tdone a thousand times before.
(27:16):
Do you try to find a way backhome to catch Damien?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
No, I would just tell him to take my boy out there to
catch him for me.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, I like that.
I like that, all right.
Last question here, chuck whatto you, is the meaning of life?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Wow, buddy, is the meaning of life.
Wow, buddy, to me the meaningof life would would be
togetherness and understanding.
You know, like the meaning oflife to me is is my kiddo back
home, you know, my wife, likeit's.
It's wild when, when you findthe person that you're meant to
(27:57):
spend the rest of your life with, and and you realize that and
that becomes your meaning oflife.
But then together you make theappropriate, create and you make
this beautiful living being,and watch, watch that kid start
(28:21):
to grow and develop and and andyou start to share.
You know the knowledge and doyour damnedest to help them
understand how to not make thesame mistakes you've made and
try to raise them to becomebetter than you.
(28:42):
That's, that's what I'm herefor.
That's, that's the meaning ofmy life hell yeah, man, that's
awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Chuck uh vows coming out may 10th uh hot water music,
30 years.
Okay, you guys are in the uknow.
Then you're coming to the uswith uh, quicksand full, you
know full us tour, for the mostpart going back to europe, uh to
finish out the 30 year.
Uh, just can't thank you enoughfor your time.
(29:12):
Real quick, is there anywhere?
Like, where has the band notbeen?
Is there still a bunch ofplaces?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
We've yet to.
We haven't been to Alaska.
We haven't been to Hawaii.
We haven't been to Russia.
There's a lot of places in Asiawe haven't been.
We haven't played Key West.
That'd be a good place to go,maybe in like April or May, I
don't know.
(29:39):
Call me crazy.
I think we should be thereapril may not because of tarpon.
It just so happens at tarpon orit's a good time to tarpon fish
.
I'm not saying that I wouldn'tgo any other months of the year,
but like that could be a goodtime to go there awesome man,
awesome, yeah, you, awesome,yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
You got to get to Key West, you got to get to Alaska.
You got to knock all this stuffout.
Awesome, chuck.
Thank you so much for your time, man.
I appreciate you being on thepodcast.
Give my best to the band.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I hope you have a kick-ass show tonight, brother.
I love you man.
Thank you so very much.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
And I'll see you.
What up, chuck?
How are you man?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
What's up, buddy, how you living.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I'm just taking in this intense promo shot that
Tito sent me right here.
This thing is who's that?
That's you right there, my man.
Oh, coming out of the shadows,all right, so here we go.
(00:27):
Chuck Reagan, out of theshadows, all right.
So here we go.
Chuck reagan, say the jerrypodcast.
It is a pleasure, my man, tohave you on as a guest.
Thank you so much for takingthe time.
How you doing?
How's the vibe?
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm good, I'm fired up.
Man, we're in.
Uh, we're in Leeds right now atBrutonel.
You've been here, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
And we got two nights in a row.
Tonight's the first of two.
Yeah, we've been rolling aroundover in the UK.
We got a Willem Scream with usand Cat Bite and we've been
having a ball man.
It's kind of, uh, just kickingoff the whole campaign for the
(01:09):
30 year anniversary of hot watermusic and been playing some of
the new songs off the new recordand that's been a blast, yeah.
But I mean, oddly enough for meon this run, I've been sleeping
good, eating well.
(01:29):
You know I feel pretty goodcompared to how I typically feel
on the road, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, man, I mean anytime you're sleeping good on
the road, anytime you're eatinggood in England, that's a
blessing in itself.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
OK.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And you know, obviously you know.
First of all, congrats on 30years of the band.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I mean it's an amazing accomplishment, man.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, it's wild you know and kicking it off.
Kicking it off in England, ofcourse.
A very special place.
Do you remember your first UKtour?
What was that like?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I mean, it wasn't like this.
Yeah, I'm trying to rememberwhat year it was.
I feel like the first time wecame over here we only played a
couple shows.
Time we came over here, we onlyplayed a couple shows.
Um, it would have had to havebeen, you know, maybe 99 or 2000
(02:31):
, maybe.
Yeah, I think I rememberplaying the garage, uh, in
london, that place, um, or inthe early, early days, um it was
.
It was why it was pretty wild.
Oh yeah, uh, who do we hook upwith?
Some of the guys from that band, the tone, um sean, that record
(02:53):
label, rugger bugger, uh, wasaround and, uh, yeah, big sean
from hard skin, uh, like thethat that was.
That was a good experience.
Um, you know, I the food aroundin on this island definitely
has gotten better over the years.
(03:14):
I know that mildly, mildly, how?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
how do you feel?
I want you to be honest here.
How do you feel about theEnglish breakfast?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Huge fan, big fan, really Big fan Come on.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, disgusting.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Beans on toast.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Beans on toast.
Well, actually you kind oftrack.
As a beans on toast guy, I'mgoing to be honest.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Oh, I love the rashers and eggs, but I mean,
you know, nowadays, for thelongest time, I mean most of the
stuff I eat's just, you know, Itry to stick to pretty clean
food.
You know, just straight meat.
You know veggies and fruit.
You know, I feel, seem to feelbetter yeah, good, good, how's?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
uh, you know you.
You're on tour right now.
You played london, you got twoshows in leeds.
Obviously you're probably doinga bunch of press with the
30-year anniversary going on.
How's your voice holding up sofar and what's your routine at
nowadays?
What are you doing before ashow?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I mean, I try to do some warm-ups, you know, and try
to stay diligent with, uh, withdoing that, you know, and, uh,
mostly just drinking blackcoffee and water, uh, more water
than black coffee.
But, um, um, yeah, you know,typically usually, um, just
(04:39):
drink a little whiskey and and,uh, you know, do whiskey and and
, uh, you know, do do a littlewarmups.
But, uh, my voice is all right,you know it's, it's not uh, I'm
definitely not a hundredpercent right now, but I, I mean
, I feel I feel great and thePMA is there but uh, if I'm
(04:59):
being honest with myself.
You know, I feel like my voiceis kind of in my in, the uh, 70%
range, you know.
Well, I mean my voice is kindof in the 70% range.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, I mean you're just kind of starting out, so
probably by the end of the tourit'll get up to 80, maybe 90.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's how it goes right.
You get to that last show andyou're like all right, I'm ready
to go.
Tip top, Time to go home.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, man, it's always, it's always.
Uh, you know, sleep is a crazything for me.
On tour too, I don't get a lotof it, but I noticed when my
voice starts to go like thefirst thing I'll do is just try
to get some rest and it's likethe number one thing that brings
it back is always just numberone man.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of people don't realizethat I I got some uh vocal
coaching here years back in oneof the early, early hot water
recording sessions and went andvisited uh, mark Baxter I don't
know if you've known that dudeuh in Boston he wrote years ago
(06:01):
he wrote a book called the rockand roll singers survival manual
, and ago he wrote a book calledthe Rock and Roll Singer's
Survival Manual and he's abadass and he taught me early on
.
You know he's like a lot ofpeople don't realize.
But like tea, honey, this thatlozenges, like it's all a myth,
like it may soothe you but it'snot going to deswell a swollen
(06:27):
larynx, it's not going tomagically bring your voice back.
Really, the two things thatbring your voice back is sleep
and water, and it's easy toforget that shit, though, when
you're out rock and rolling.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It's amazing what a cold beer will do oh yeah, no
doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
There's been many times where I'm just like I
don't know how I'm gonna do thisunless I take about five or six
shots right now and and uh,just numb my way through this
thing and get through it.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Awesome man.
Well, you know I want to wrapwith you about Vows.
You know you got a new recordcoming out May 10th and that's
your 10th studio album, right,yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Dude, that's crazy dude.
Congrats, man, Thank youbrother.
The reaction so far has beengreat and it's because the songs
are great.
It just feels like a.
You know it's a special time inthe band right now.
It feels like a special record.
Um singles we got menace out,burn forever.
Uh.
Remnants has got turnstile guyson it and fences has got thrice
(07:38):
on it.
All four awesome fucking songs.
Fences is probably my favoriteof the four, I think, just
because it's it's just, it justsounds massive uh what uh,
what's your favorite of the fourso far?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
oh, that's, that's I mean.
That's always tough for me, youknow, because, like I love the
vibe of all of them, I love, youknow, what we, what we
documented and what we put down.
And then, of course, like youknow, when you get down to the
lyrics and like the depth andthe brevity of the songs, like
they all mean something, youknow what I mean.
(08:16):
It's always tough to pick afavorite.
Um, if I had one right now ofjust playing these new songs
live, menace has been a blast toplay.
I got to, if anything, rightbefore we start that song, I
have to mentally go all right,all right, just control, slow it
(08:41):
down, because I just get almostoverly amped up and like ready
to, ready to rip into it, and soI have to kind of, you know,
almost amp myself up to to bringit down a little bit, you know
(09:04):
yeah, yeah yeah, just havinghaving a blast, uh, playing,
playing these new tunes, and andI mean you know, uh, it's, it's
, it's not our responsibility orcare to you know, wonder, you
know what people think of it.
You know, wonder, you know whatpeople think of it.
You know, if they like it,great.
(09:26):
If they don't like it, that'sfine too.
Uh, you know, but it I I'venoticed that the response is
good.
Uh, you know, which is alwaysfun.
You know, it's always exciting.
Uh, you know how it goes, man.
I mean, like, a lot of peopleknow a lot of this material and
we're going up there trying topick.
(09:47):
You know what 20 songs we'regoing to play out of I don't
even know how many, and you knowall the ones that you're
usually the most excited to playare the ones that not as many
people know at all.
You know ones that not as manypeople know at all.
(10:07):
You know and you know.
So it's always cool to you know, just put out some new songs
and already see people and hearpeople singing lyrics back to
you is pretty heavy duty, man.
We feel pretty damn lucky.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, that's awesome man.
You know, and there's there's alot of uh, a lot of
collaborations on this album.
You know, you got Dallas greencity in color.
You got the interrupters onthere, I noticed uh, I don't, I
don't, I don't remember gettinga call Of any type.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, I'm sorry man.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Oh, would have loved that I might have to check with
our managers, because surelythere must have been an email or
something.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Oh well, we'll have to hit that on the next one.
Yeah, man, you know, what'spretty cool about all the
collaborations to me is just howgenuine and kind of organically
it all happened, because I, youknow, we were done with the
record and we were confidentwith it and we were fine with it
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as it was, you know, you know,and, and all our work was done
before any kind of agenda orplans or, you know, asks were
happening, you know, for thosecollaborations.
And so much of it happened.
(11:40):
And you know Brian McTernan,you know, I mean he's, he's been
in the game a long time andhe'd worked with Turnstile
before.
You know the Thrice, of course,you know, we've known, you know
, those dudes for ages, dallas,of course, and the Interrupters
(12:01):
I had just done a tour with them, you know, and all those ideas
kind of came up kind of after,after we were done, you know,
which was really cool, sohumbled, you know, to have
people care, you know, to be onit.
And, yeah, I'm stoked, stoked,the way everything came out.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Awesome man.
Yeah, I can't wait to hear.
It.
Is the?
Is the Interrupter song?
Is that a ska?
Is it a ska song?
Yeah, I can't wait to hear itIs the Interrupter song.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
is that a ska song?
It is a ska song, but can't sayit's a good one, because we're
not good at playing ska at all.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I was going to say is there a good ska?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, it took 30 years to realize that we are not
good at playing ska and that weprobably made the right
decision for not starting a skaband.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Amazing, Amazing.
You know, talking about 30years of the band, you know, I
know there's a lot of of hardwork, a lot of ups and downs
that go into that.
And if a young band comes up toyou, you know, and they're
asking kind of, you know, ifyou're looking to sustain a rock
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and roll band on the level ofhot water music, you know what
are some words of wisdom thatyou could impart in a young band
that's looking to sustainlongevity in a music career.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
A hundred percent sustained longevity in a music
career?
A hundred percent, I mean?
That's a tough question toanswer these days, because our
industry is changing so much.
In other words, the answer thatI give right now is probably
different than the answer that Iwould have given you know, 15
(14:07):
years ago, and it may bedifferent than the answer that I
might give five years from now.
Right, but the couple thingsthat I feel like that I feel
like is timeless advice that Icould give, for lack of a better
term, is for one uh, find yourtribe man.
(14:30):
Find your people.
Um, you know, be confident inwhat you're doing.
But in terms of finding you knowwhere you feel confident and
comfortable, uh, you know, forus, it was the punk rock scene.
It was, you know, a DIYmovement, and that's just where
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we felt the most comfortable,where we felt at home, and, you
know, once you find that youknow, nurture it and be true to
it.
The best advice I could giveyou know young bands, for
longevity, though, would besimply communication within,
(15:17):
within, within your group,within that tribe.
You know where that's.
That's key.
You know, hot water.
We've had tons of up and downs,we broke up a couple times and,
in the end, the thing thatwould always bring us back
together and the thing thatkeeps us together now and will
(15:39):
keep us together for the rest ofour days, is just being honest
with each other andcommunication.
That's truly it.
You know, as far as connectingwith people, that was always the
most important thing to me.
(16:00):
You know, I never feltcomfortable with like a
separation between band andcrowd, as in.
This is what we do.
We deserve this, and you'rethere, we're here To me.
I always looked at it as we'reall in this room doing the same
thing.
(16:22):
If I wasn't on stage, I would bedown on the floor watching some
other band that I like.
We're all here for the samereason, which is to, you know,
leave our problems at the door.
You know, use music as a formof therapy or a tool to come
together and figure out our ownshit, figure out our problems,
(16:43):
figure out how to, how to betterour neighborhood, better our
families, better our communities.
Right, that's, that was whatbrought me, uh, to music in the
first place.
Um, you know, but to do thatand like, for me, growing up,
the the the best way that I'vefound to do that is connecting
(17:07):
with these people that arespending their hard-earned money
and energy and time to meet youhalfway and come to these shows
.
You know so, connecting withyour crowds, connecting with
your people, is absolutelycrucial.
With your people is absolutelycrucial.
(17:31):
And just playing from yourheart, you know, doing it for
those reasons seem to, moreoften than not, keep me on the
track that I needed to be on,you know, Hell, yeah, man,
that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, I mean, communication is definitely the
key, you know, connecting withyour art, with your audience,
with everyone around you doingthings for the right reasons.
That's awesome, man.
Really cool insight on 30 yearsof the band and how you guys
kept it going.
We got a couple questions herefrom the internet.
(18:00):
Okay, Okay.
I'm going to hit you with thisone.
This one's coming from at NastyNachos.
Ok, he says dear, dear Chuck,outside of being one of my
favorite musicians, I know youare quite the outdoorsman.
Are you a fan of wildernesssurvival shows like Naked and
(18:20):
Afraid?
And if you were asked, wouldyou ever appear on one?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I would never appear on one.
No, I don't.
I don't really watch movies, Idon't really watch TV at all.
I mean, at home I'm a 3.30, 4am kind of guy and I'm either
working on the house, theproperty or I'm out on the boat.
But getting up that early andworking the way that I do also
(18:51):
means I come home, spend timewith my family, eat dinner, and
I'm usually asleep by 8, eight,30, nine o'clock, you know.
So, uh, no, no, I don't reallywatch those TV shows.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Uh, no naked and afraid.
No naked and afraid for you.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now, now would I go out bymyself and spend some time naked
in the woods?
Hell yeah, I would.
But, um, I don't need nobodyfilming it.
Nobody needs to see that anyway.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
so what do you think?
Uh, so primitive survivalrating is something they talk
about on these shows.
Okay, just like a.
They call it a psr and it'slike a number from one to ten
about like what skill set youhave, how you could survive in
the outdoors, on a scale of oneto 10, don't you in the middle
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of you know, crazy ass,wilderness, canada.
What do you think your survivalrating is at?
What do you give yourself?
What's your PSR?
I have no.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I have no idea.
I don't have no idea.
You know I do hunt, I'm ahunter, I'm an angler, you know.
I know I could build a shelter,find water there you go.
You know hunt and clean game.
So I don't know, I don't know,I don't know how they rate that,
(20:19):
or you know that's gonna clockin at like a 7.9 8.1 so yeah,
okay around there, I think yougo.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, I think you know how are you in hand-to-hand
combat with, like say, a bearor you know any sort of wild
animal that might come along?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Depends on the animal and if they had a good
breakfast or not.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
All right.
One more question Are piranhasreal and have you ever caught
one?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Piranhas are absolutely real and, yes, I have
caught a piranha before down inSouth America.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Are they?
Is it like the movies?
Do they flesh eat?
Just boom, or is it not?
Not like that?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I can only imagine, I'm sure that if you landed in,
you know, in a school of themand you know I, I've always been
told that they're very muchkind of like, cause I've swam in
bodies of water that have hadpiranhas in it and you know I
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was with locals who said it'sfine.
So hey, you know I Classiclocals.
Went it wrong, you know, andyeah, and when, meanwhile, a
couple hours prior, like I hadcaught and was holding a piranha
, but uh, yeah, they're, uh,they're gnarly, they're gnarly
(21:46):
species, but I, I, I was alwaysunder the impression that
they're very much like, like,have you ever kicked up a ground
hornet's nest, you know, or oror had been around bees?
And then all of a sudden, like,if one, if one, stings you and
they let off that, thatpheromone or whatever it is that
(22:06):
they, they do, and all of asudden they all sting you at
once.
Um, I'd imagine it's probablythe same with piranhas if you
find your place, find yourselfin the wrong place at the wrong
time, you know, but I I've nevereaten one, but I hear they're
actually really good to eatthough too.
So they seem like a big gnarly,uh, bluegill or, you know, big
(22:30):
gnarly panfish.
to me they're beautiful yeahbeautiful, beautiful species
what is the?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
what is the best fish to eat?
What is it?
Is it, oh, trout?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
is it salmon?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
is it ahi?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
yeah, it totally depends on your taste.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I mean uh, what about to you?
What's your favorite?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
oh man, um, you know, sheep's head, uh, not our
californ sheep's head, uh, notour California sheep's head, but
, uh, florida sheep's head issome of the best to me, um, it,
that's, that's a really, reallygood table fare.
I do love salmon.
Uh, that's a completely, youknow, like pink meat and, and
(23:15):
you know, white flesh fish aretwo completely different tastes,
but I do enjoy salmon.
I eat a lot of salmon.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Hell yeah, all right, we got a couple of pick-ems
here.
We're just going to pick one orthe other, whatever you prefer.
We got Fugazi or the Ramones.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, I'm going to say Fugazi for me.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Nice, bad religion or the Descendants?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Bad religion.
Sorry Bill, Sorry, Sorry Milo,Sorry guys.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Goodfellas or Casino.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Goodfellas.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Dave Grohl or Eddie Vedder.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Dave Grohl probably.
Sorry, eddie.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
All right, and I think everyone wants to know
this.
Dave Grohl or Eddie Vedder?
Dave Grohl probably.
Sorry, eddie, all right, and Ithink everyone wants to know
this.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
If you had to pick between music or fishing.
What would it be?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
No comment.
That means fishing, that meansfishing.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Well, no, not necessarily.
I mean like I know that if youdrop my ass off in the middle of
wherever you said you were, youknow music's not going to save
my life.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
That's true.
Music ranks really low on thePSR rating scale.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
If we're talking the PSR rating scale, I'm going to
have to go with fishing.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
All right, our rating scale.
I'm gonna have to go withfishing.
Yeah, all right, speaking of,we got a couple hypotheticals
here to wrap up the show.
I know you got a gig tonight inleeds so I I appreciate your
time.
My man.
Um, you know bill and ted.
Okay, hypothetical.
Here they show up with a timemachine.
Yeah, they say chuck where youwant to go.
Where's the first place you'regoing and why?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
oh wow, man, that is a tough one, that is really
tough.
Uh, you know, malibu wasprobably a pretty incredible
place before people messed itall up you want to go to?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
you want to go to malibu before people.
Yes, that that I could imaginethat that probably was a a
pretty special spot uh, you knowwhat's funny about that
question is no one ever likeanswers like oh, I want to go
stop this or stop that, or it'salways like about going
(25:41):
somewhere like where it was coolor before it got blown out.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
It's so funny, man that's right, because because I
don't, I don't know what wecould stop.
You know, it seems like mankind, by nature, is just here to
absolutely ruin this planet.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
So yeah, yeah, all right.
So hypothetical number two herethis is this is a good one.
Uh, you get a call from yourmanager, all right.
He says uh, chuck, I just gotthe craziest call from the red
hot chili peppers.
Okay, anthony ketis is out,anthony Kiedis is out and the
band wants you to sing for theRed Hot Chili Peppers.
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We're going one album cycle,you got one album cycle world
tour, but it's just you, justvocals, no guitar singing for
the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Instant millionaire, you'regoing to make some bank, do you
do it?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
oh, yeah, absolutely, why not?
Why not, hell yeah it would, itwould, it would take some
homework, but yeah, absolutelyyou could pull it off.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
You could pull it off for sure.
What about?
You're on tour.
You get a call from yourfishing buddy that Damien, the
300-pound trout that's escapedyou for years, is back in the
local stream.
You're on tour, the shows aregoing okay.
It's not a tour you haven'tdone a thousand times before.
(27:16):
Do you try to find a way backhome to catch Damien?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
No, I would just tell him to take my boy out there to
catch him for me.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, I like that.
I like that, all right.
Last question here, chuck whatto you, is the meaning of life?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Wow, buddy, is the meaning of life.
Wow, buddy, to me the meaningof life would would be
togetherness and understanding.
You know, like the meaning oflife to me is is my kiddo back
home, you know, my wife, likeit's.
It's wild when, when you findthe person that you're meant to
(27:57):
spend the rest of your life with, and and you realize that and
that becomes your meaning oflife.
But then together you make theappropriate, create and you make
this beautiful living being,and watch, watch that kid start
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to grow and develop and and andyou start to share.
You know the knowledge and doyour damnedest to help them
understand how to not make thesame mistakes you've made and
try to raise them to becomebetter than you.
(28:42):
That's, that's what I'm herefor.
That's, that's the meaning ofmy life hell yeah, man, that's
awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Chuck uh vows coming out may 10th uh hot water music,
30 years.
Okay, you guys are in the uknow.
Then you're coming to the uswith uh, quicksand full, you
know full us tour, for the mostpart going back to europe, uh to
finish out the 30 year.
Uh, just can't thank you enoughfor your time.
(29:12):
Real quick, is there anywhere?
Like, where has the band notbeen?
Is there still a bunch ofplaces?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
We've yet to.
We haven't been to Alaska.
We haven't been to Hawaii.
We haven't been to Russia.
There's a lot of places in Asiawe haven't been.
We haven't played Key West.
That'd be a good place to go,maybe in like April or May, I
don't know.
(29:39):
Call me crazy.
I think we should be thereapril may not because of tarpon.
It just so happens at tarpon orit's a good time to tarpon fish
.
I'm not saying that I wouldn'tgo any other months of the year,
but like that could be a goodtime to go there awesome man,
awesome, yeah, you, awesome,yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
You got to get to Key West, you got to get to Alaska.
You got to knock all this stuffout.
Awesome, chuck.
Thank you so much for your time, man.
I appreciate you being on thepodcast.
Give my best to the band.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I hope you have a kick-ass show tonight, brother.
I love you man.
Thank you so very much.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
And I'll see you.
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