May 30, 2024 • 45 mins
Bobby Nerves is the singer for the latest and greatest English garage punk sensation, BAD NERVES. In this episode, we catch up with Bobby to discuss their brand new album, Still Nervous, which drops on May 31st! We also discuss Bobby’s path in music and songwriting, touring in the big bad USA, sonic manifestation and the ancient powers of the pyramids, Prince Harry vs. Prince William, who’s the most iconic punk rocker, and much, much more! As always, brought to you by Sailor Jerry!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Big bad Bobby Nerves, thank you for being a special
guest here on the Sailor Jerrypodcast.
My man, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm doing very well, thank you.
I'm suffering from jet lagslightly because of well,
because of the jet.
It wasn't a private jet, though, it was British Airways economy
.
We just came back from Americayesterday, so I'm a little bit
whoa.
Other than that, I'm prettygood.
Yeah.
And how many times have youguys done the States?
(00:28):
Now?
That was our third time.
We first went out there withRoyal Blood in when?
Was it August last year?
They invited us to come out,which was very kind of them to
do so.
They were the first band oftheir size, you know, to sort of
say come and play with us.
You know, in America we werelike like what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
um, but yeah, it was great so that was the first.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, then we did.
We went back out there for alittle headline run with a band
called lily, like a co-headlinething she did on the west coast,
and then, yeah, and then, andthen this big month is crazy man
.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, it's awesome, man.
Congrats on everything you guysgot going.
You know, I remember veryspecifically in the early Bronx
days the first time we went tothe UK and it was such an
incredible experience.
But I kind of feel like it'snowhere near as cool when an
American band goes to the UK.
It's always the cool thing isalways the English band.
(01:21):
You know coming to the Statesand I just wanted to get your
kind of take on that because atleast for me, I think going back
to England was.
You know, it's a smaller place,there's more tradition and it's
more of a specific type ofplace and vibe and I was so
stoked to witness it and to be apart of it and the shows there
were so crazy.
You know just the music historyin England is incredible and
(01:45):
obviously you know the punk rockscene, you know, in London and
Manchester and all thosedifferent pockets.
We had the best time.
But for you, for the bandcoming over to America for the
first time, I feel like when youcome over to America it's just
like it has to just be insanebecause it's so huge, it's so
wide open, there's so manydifferent things happening.
(02:07):
What was it like for you guysthe first time you came over?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Well, I mean, yeah, it was crazy.
I feel like England.
There's like a level ofsnobbery here a little bit, at
least to me that they don't seemto have in America.
In America it feels like theway people act in America at the
shows I've played is how you'dexpect people from England to
act, because you know they'vegot the Beatles coming from
there the Clash You'd thinkthere'd be, but it's almost like
(02:33):
there's a bit more of asnobbery, like I said, in
England, whereas in America itwas not like that.
It felt like everybody was justreally excited, Mainly that
we're from England, but also you, you know, and they like the
music.
I think I hope, um, no, it'sbeen great.
I think it's, probably it's.
It might, might be our favoriteplace to play.
I mean, europe is great as well.
(02:53):
Um, they were the first, thatwas the first place.
Um, that people understood theband, you know.
But, uh, but yeah, no, it's,it's mad.
We never thought we'd get to goto america.
It feels like it's big as well.
Holy shit, it's big.
You know, these drives, man,like you drive.
You drive for like 10 hours andyou've just you're not even
moved on the on the map.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
It's pretty wild, getting used to that um now, do
you have a driver or is someonein the van driving?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
oh, this is our john, our bass player.
He does absolutely 100 of thedriving.
Yeah, we do have.
I know it's crazy.
I think he I don't think hetrusts any of the rest of us to
drive and I don't blame him,although he did say to me
recently that if he was, if hehad to trust anyone else with it
, it would be me.
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
So I'm safe as well, everybody yeah, we had, uh, we
I've done a little bit ofdriving in the uk before and it
was like, oh man, I mean thestreets are so small and I was
scared out of my mind.
You know, I've almost got, youknow, run over, crossing the
street over there so manygoddamn times.
But yeah, it's, it's a tripwhen it's when it's the other
way around your streets here arefucking huge, like we've got
(04:01):
the same.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
We have the same fear when we're here, like so let's
cross over the road to go towalmart, and it's like this five
carriageway, 10 lanes or fiveon each side, and it's just like
I always forget which way tolook and it's just oh, I should
just be, I stay in the hotel,stay in the hotel and the venue.
I can't, I'll get hurt.
Oh, man.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
well you guys.
You guys have your second albumthat's about to drop here, may
31st and congratulations on theupcoming release.
What's the vibe like in theband right now, man?
I mean, you guys got a calendarfull of great shows, festivals
coming up the rest of the year,new album out.
How's everybody feeling?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I think, you know, we never thought we would get to
do a second album.
We weren't even planning onbeing a band when this started.
It was meant to be just onealbum, you know, for fun, just
for the sake of it, because whatelse are you going to do, you
know?
And yeah, so to have made it tothis point where we're doing a
second album and people, somepeople, are keen, keen to hear
(05:05):
it, and we're playing theseamazing shows with so many
amazing bands, it's this.
Yeah, I mean we're all, we'retired from a lot of gigs, but
we're very excited.
Um, it's yeah, it's like a Idon't know, I don't want to say
dream come true, but I mean itkind of is.
You know, we're just doing thething that we love against
literally all the odds.
All the people tell you not todo it, all the financial strains
(05:29):
which are, you know, very real.
Yeah, it's brilliant.
We just love it, you know.
So we're excited for people tohear this new album and then to
do another one.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I'm already thinking about the next one.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
you know I want to do another one.
I miss the writing.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
It is exciting to have you know, and you just
reminded me of a feeling of youknow, because I think,
especially in the punk rockworld and in the underground
music world there is such a youknow, there's an idea that you
basically you're going to getone album.
You know the band will implodeor things will happen and life
(06:03):
will go different ways, but atleast you'll be able to have
this time where you got together, you made some music, If you
got lucky enough, you got arecord deal, you got to put it
out, you got to play some shows,but there is this kind of
ideology that most bands arenever even going to get to a
second album and so what you do,it's a big feeling.
(06:24):
It's like, oh shit.
It's kind of like, oh man,we're an actual like, we're an
actual band.
Now we got two albums yeah,it's weird.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
It's like it's uh, I don't know the first one, as you
know, like when you do thefirst one, you're not thinking
about anything other than justyour sort of uh passion for
doing it.
You know like.
So then when you, when you makeit to that second one, it's
sort of like going into thestudio again, right, you're like
everything's different becausethere's this weird expectation
now and you're like it canreally get in your head if you
let it.
(06:53):
You know, um, it's so.
It's kind of like it'sbittersweet because you have to,
like you have to figure out howto sort of I don't know focus
and and do what you did beforewith the same passion and energy
, without letting thedistractions of the expectation
and things get in the way.
That was, that was kind ofstrange, but I think we kind of
did that in the end.
Like I, just what I realizedwas that when you're doing a
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second album, you just have todo what you did the first time
around, but not as in try tocopy the songs, but you're
trying to just write from thesame like kind of sense of
freedom.
You know, just like, what do Iwant to write?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
what do I like, what do I think sounds good and
hopefully it still soundsrelatively within the genre, you
know, unless you want to justgo full blown and do, uh, do
what you guys did and do amariachi, no mariachi, or a
sergeant pepper, you know, justdo something completely left
yeah, well, you know it's crazywith with the second bronx album
it was a total head fuck for me, like like everything you're
(07:51):
talking about, like, okay, thefirst album was just kind of an
explosion of of nerves andenergy up to that point and, uh,
it came out and it was amazing.
And then it was like for us wehad, okay, this is like our
major label record, we had thisbig producer and man, I just
mentally I was like for us.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
We had okay, this is like our major label record.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
We had this big producer and man, I just
mentally I was not ready forthat.
I was, just like you know, somepunk rock kid just like wanted
to, you know, scream into amicrophone and I wasn't ready to
take that like next step, likeyou know, mentally, in the
studio and dude it was, oh God,it was a fucking nightmare dude.
It was a nightmare in thestudio and dude it, oh god, it
(08:26):
was a fucking nightmare dude, itwas a nightmare.
I I listened back to thatrecord and I and I I love it but
still it's like, oh, it was socrazy.
And then, on the opposite sideof that, with the l bronx band,
we wrote that first record andit felt so good that it was just
a complete natural flow intothe second record.
Like we just kept writing andit was like all of a sudden it
was like boom, our second.
Just kept writing and it waslike all of a sudden it was like
boom, our second record's done.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And it was like before we even blinked, way
better to do it that way I wasreading a interview where you
were talking about that wholething, that process like, and
just how how natural it felt andhow freeing it was to do
something you know likesomething that nobody would have
ever in a million yearsexpected you to do.
And it's like I found that whenI was in the studio doing this,
(09:08):
this second one, like most ofthe songs on this record, came
from obviously we didn't it'snot like a complete change, but
they came from me going I justwant to do something that makes
me feel creatively satisfied,rather than worrying about it
being this or that, and it's asort of similar, similar energy
in terms of just being free tojust explore something
creatively, you know, becausethere's nothing worse than
(09:29):
getting stuck, you know, whenyou're like, oh, I've got to
write something that will fitthe band.
What the fuck does that evenmean?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
you know, like it's just, it really can stunt your,
your mind you know, yeah, it'stough man like any any sort of
confines in a creative realm.
There's nothing worse likeyou're saying that, being in the
studio and feeling like youhave to write a certain type of
song, make a certain type ofrecord, be a certain type of
band it's just like fuck allthat man I put a little bit of
(09:55):
like uh in the beginning of oneof the songs on this album.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
There was I built this like huge, like brazilian
samba, like intro to like try tomake it sound like it had been
recorded like on the streets ofbrazil.
I did all these samples, builtthis whole thing because I
wanted to.
I was just so desperate to dosomething else.
You know, and I've been tobrazil and like, the music in
brazil is so amazing and I didall this whole thing and the
band were like no, you're notdoing that, but I was like it
(10:20):
did.
It made me think of, uh, ofwhat you guys did with the
Mariachi band.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
That was the classic second album.
All right, hear me out, guys,hear me out.
We're going to go Brazilianstreet drums.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Exactly, exactly, and I think they were probably
right.
It did sound cool, but theywere like everyone was just
looking at me like I think thisis a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah you got to save that for the third record.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
You got to save that for the third record, you gotta
say yeah, well, I think thirdrecord, yeah, oh god, it's so
funny, man, I just yeah justlike creative process but yeah,
third album is gonna be just allbrazilian samba.
We're gonna say, we're gonnacopy.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, yeah, well, that's like you know.
The first album is like thefirst album, the second album is
supposed to be like the bestversion of the first album, and
then the third record is whenyou go full experimentation.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah the third record is when you really start
getting weird disco tech housesomething really heavy.
I'm on ram's side maybe, Idon't know, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So, uh, you know you guys havebeen around for a while.
The band is is kind of justgetting discovered right now by
a lot of new people, which isreally awesome, awesome and
perfect timing with the albumgetting ready to drop here, but
just kind of going backwards alittle bit for our listeners
before the band kind of gottogether.
(11:35):
What's your background in music?
When did music kind of firstbecome a thing for you?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, well, I think for me it came from my parents,
particularly my mom, because shewas a music teacher, basically
a secondary school like a highschool music teacher.
Oh awesome.
You know, I was just exposed toloads of music, like musicals
as well.
My mum's really into that sortof stuff.
So from a young age I was kindof like singing along to various
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musicals and things like that.
Various musicals and thingslike that.
Um, so that's sort of where itcame.
But then when I went into um,when I, when I went to high
school, I sort of discoveredlike nirvana and stuff, and uh,
nirvana was like the thing thatgot me to play drums.
Um, and being able to playdrums I found to be such a
valuable thing for me.
When I'm like writing a song,you know I can, just because I
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played drums, I can just playand I don't have to think about
it so much.
So I can think about the songyou know in my head while I'm
sort of playing.
So that's ended up being areally valuable thing for me.
But so I listened to like Bowieand stuff growing up in the car
on the way to school, becauseit was like my dad's music.
I was almost like rebellingagainst it, like I liked it at
the and I was like, oh, I don'tlike this.
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I found Nirvana and Slipknotand I was like, there, this is
my stuff.
Although then, as it turns outlater on in life, I was like, oh
wow, I love all my dad's music,but no, so it sort of came from
that really, and then justplayed drums in a few bands in
high school and joined a metalband, played in a metal band for
years on drums and then I sortof tried to do like more poppy
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stuff.
This is the funny thing badnerves came along right when I
was like I got to this pointwhere I I felt like I hadn't
found the music I wanted to make.
I felt like I could.
I had some of the tools to beable to do it, like you play a
bit guitar, do whatever, but Ihadn't found like the genre, if
you like, that I really liked.
I was trying to do like somelike, uh, electro stuff,
electronic, like chilled outstuff, because I was smoking a
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lot of weed, just trying to dosome really slow like beats, you
know which was cool, like youput melodies over it, but it
didn't give you that adrenalineof, like you know, metal that
I'd had before.
And then I found all the powerpop, the power pop and the punk
stuff which I hadn't reallylistened to loads before, and it
just, uh, it just clicked.
I was like, wow, you can domelody and you can do anger and
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you can mash it into one, andit's like you know.
And then I basically haven'tstopped since then and that was
it.
Light bulb went on.
I was I don't even have to begood at the instruments, I can
just play a beat and just playsome chords, you know like, and
it's yeah, that's basically whatwe've built on.
The same thing that, uh, it'slike ramones, you know, you
can't.
Uh, we're not necessarily greatour instruments, but we, we try
hard and we uh, yeah, I don'tknow, we just try to write as
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many songs as we can hope that acouple of good ones come out
hell yeah, when.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
So how did you make the transition from drumming to
singing?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
well, I was kind of like I'd always I because I'd
always sang.
Since I was a kid.
That was like my you know firstinstrument, if you will, but I,
um, I kind of wasn't very cool.
I didn't think when I was goingto high school, I don't want to
be some singer.
I was playing clarinet as well.
I forgot to mention that I wasplaying clarinet for like five
years nothing cooler thanclarinet so when I started high
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school, I was like I didn't doany of that.
I was just gonna play drums, youknow, in nirvana and all that
stuff, like it's like guitar,yeah.
And then I played drums forbasically 10 years, you know,
and that was my main thing.
And it wasn't until I was likein my mid-20s, I guess, or early
, like 23, 4,.
I was like you know, I want totry writing my own songs.
And then did that for a coupleof years and yeah, and then me
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and will basically just startedthis band.
He texted me on.
He actually texted me christmas2014 and said let's do a band.
And I thought I was thinkinglike refused, you know, that
swedish band refused, kind ofthing.
Let's do something like that andthen, uh, and he was like nah,
nah let's not do that.
No, disrespect to that, heloves them, but he's like, no, I
don't want to do that, uh, andhe sent me jay.
Jay re Blood Visions album.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Oh yeah classic.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, he sent me Radioactivity's first album,
which is obviously the MarkMen's sort of spin-off, if you
like, and those two albums justblew my mind.
I hadn't really heard that sortof kind of garage punk kind of
thing.
If I had, I didn't rememberhearing it.
You know, because I came fromthe metal side.
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I used to be very much intothis whole.
Everything has to be so tightand like, well played, whatever
that means.
Yeah, and I came from that worldand like, and once I got into
this punk thing, you know, and Istarted to realize how much I
actually loved the scrappinessof it, it was like everything
changed.
I went from thinking you had toplay everything perfectly and
everything had to be complicatedto realizing that I'd been like
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tricked.
You know that, actually, thatthat is not the way it is at all
, like you know, obviously, thatmusic is what it is and it's
great, but like there'ssomething in that, the essence
of people playing.
It's almost better when theycan't play, you know it's always
better when it's just baby fastyeah exactly, and that's just
that just blew my minddiscovering that.
You know, I was like holy shit,this is so much more fun.
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You know, the pressure's kindof off, it's like just go,
follow your gut.
You know, you don't have toworry about being so great or
anything like that, as long asyou're you put your all into it.
It's, that's it, you know, andthat means something.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
It's great yeah, that's awesome, man, that's
awesome.
Um, you know, one of the thingsthat I really love about the
band are the vocal melodies uh,you know whether whether it's a
super fast song like antidote ora mid-tempo song, like you
should know by now, vocalmelodies are always insanely
catchy.
Um, where, where does that kindof come from?
(17:01):
You know what I mean.
Like, I know melody is animportant thing for you, um, but
when you're writing a song, youknow, like you're saying
multi-instrumentalist here, uh,we got drums, we got clarinet,
we got vocals, we got you know,we got it all.
Uh, like what, what's your kindof writing process?
And where do you put likemelody and lyrics?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
um, you know, on the sort of totem pole of importance
in a song yeah, I mean, for meI feel like melody is the number
one important thing, to behonest, like because you know
you could take the most basic uh, you know, riff, you know, or
whatever chords.
You know just three chordswhere two chords, even if you're
feeling like it, if you'refeeling really lazy, and if you
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find a, if you find a melodythat, um, that works, that hits,
well, then the music can be sobasic, you know, you can, the
beat can just be the same beat,the whole, like antidote.
That is literally.
I.
I recorded, I think, maybe twobars of the of the beat and
there's one bit where it opensthe hats up and it's like get
and get and get and get a symboland then it repeats, and then I
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pasted it and I didn't changeit.
I thought I wanted it to becompletely robotic, not not no,
like variety at all and um, andthat's like a good example, like
, and that's just a, that's acouple.
But then I found a melody thatworked and it ended up being
probably one of my favoritesongs in terms of melody on that
album.
I don't know, but no, so I findlike when I'm writing stuff
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sometimes I'll just try and getlike a verse and a chorus idea,
super rough you know, on, likeguitars and drums or whatever,
and then I'll sit there before Igo any further and see if I can
catch some sort of melody overit.
And then, if I do, then I'mthen I'm like, oh okay, this is.
Then it gives me that sort oflike the encouragement to to go
forward with it, because there'sbeen times where I've like
worked on the music, got thiswhole song all laid out and and
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I've left the vocals till theend, and then I get there and I
can't, I can't find somethingthat is that I like enough.
So I uh, yeah, I think melodyis the most important thing.
That's why I just find that'swhat makes you want to go back
and listen to a song.
You know, like it's not to saythat everything has to be super
cheesy.
You know, abba beetles kind oflike pop melodies all the time.
There's loads of music I likewhich isn't hasn't got that
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constant, like you know hook onthe top.
But for me personally, with thissort of music, I I just want it
to be instant.
If I'm in the mood forlistening to this kind of music,
I want there to be hooks, youknow, so yeah, so I spend a lot
of time just trying to findthose hooks.
Really, you know, I don't wantthe verse to be less catchy than
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the chorus, I want it to becatchy from the minute the
vocals start to the end of thesong.
You know, because I just Idon't know, it's like the, I
like, I think from listening tothe beatles so much, I, I just
love that almost all of theirsongs, certainly the sort of
latest albums, like it's justall catchy.
You know there's like there'snot one, there's not one bit
that doesn't hook you in.
You know the verse of this song, the middle eight of that song
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is all has a hook and I just Ijust find that so great yeah,
that's.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
That's awesome man.
That's a good point.
If the chorus is catchy, whycan't the verse be catchy?
Why can't the whole fuckingsong be catchy?
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, it can.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
And you feel that when you listen to Bad Nerves,
you hear that, you feel that andthe songs stick in your head.
And from the first album in2020, and you know you guys
released live in london 2023 andand now with this album, I
really feel like uh, the song sofar off of uh, still nervous,
like you guys have kind of found, you know, your spot as a band
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and and the songs, man, they'reso, they're so good thanks, dude
.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I really appreciate that.
It's been, uh, it's been, aweird process this one, because
I did a lot of this one on myown, so it's been a little bit
more scary.
You know, I know that I like it.
It's just always that thing ofwill other people like it?
You know, you don't really know.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, that's the kicker right.
It's like okay, it's great tomake an album that you love, but
it would be awesome if someother people enjoyed it as well.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, it does help.
I'm not seeking validation andthen I get it and I think oh, it
does feel nice actually.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Awesome man.
A couple questions here fromthe internet.
We got a lot of questions fromthe internet, oh shit.
Oh, no, yeah, watch out, herecomes the internet.
Who wins in a fight betweenPrince Harry and Prince William?
In a fight between Prince Harryand Prince William.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I mean I, I I prefer Harry to William, I think, cause
he's at least Harry's tried tosort of, he's tried to, he's
tried to distance himself alittle bit from some of the
fucked up shit.
That I can't go too deep intothe Royal family stuff I was
just turning to a conspiracypodcast.
I'm going to go, I'll go with,I'll go with Harry, even, um,
(21:41):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I'll go with you know , I'll go with harry, even
though I'm not too sure.
Harry's the special forces,right?
Harry did, harry did, uh, yeah,okay, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I don't mean special forces in quotes yeah, yeah, sky
news were there to film himdoing the special forces.
That, there you go, let's justget you some film?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
yeah, that video him like running, running to the
helicopter or whatever.
That viral video is great whenhe takes off his mic and runs uh
all right, you're going, harry,I'm gonna give it to william
just because of older brotherpower.
I feel like, yeah, as a youngerbrother, I can attest that
older brother power is very realand I it's, it's, it takes.
(22:17):
It takes a miracle for ayounger brother to beat the
older brother.
It's there's, just it does nothappen miracle for a younger
brother to beat the olderbrother.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
It's there's just it does not happen.
I think I must be, I'm gonnahave to disagree, because I have
a younger brother and I used toI would always win the fight
somewhere younger, because hewas he's three years younger
than me.
He was a lot smaller for likethe first 20 years and then I
feel like all of our fightingand play, fighting, fight made
him a lot tougher than I am andnow he's like way physically
(22:43):
stronger than me, he looksbetter than me and I just if we
got in a fight, I think I don'tthink I stand a chance.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
The student has become the teacher.
I don't know, though.
Yeah, you'd be surprised.
Yeah, actually, maybe you'reright, maybe I am really strong.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Fuck it.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
That's the thing.
What's so frustrating aboutbeing the younger brother is,
even if you know, like you'resaying, you know you've been
beating him up his whole life.
He's got a chip on his shoulder.
He's super buff now, butthere's still.
There's that one thing whereit's just no matter what.
He's never going to be able toget over on you.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
It's just not.
It's just like a law of theworld I like that.
Yeah, I'm gonna start.
I'm gonna start manifestingthat and then I'm gonna
challenge into a jewel all right.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Who is the most iconic punk rocker?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I mean for me, for me probably joey ramone, oh, then
again I don't know joestrummer's quite high up there
as well, for me.
I mean, I think the pistolswere pretty iconic, you know,
like with what they did withthat one album and just the
timing of it all um, my initialthought was sid vicious, just
because poster boy.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, when you think about the word iconic, the look,
you know, we've all seen thephotos and it's like he's just
one of those guys of people whodon't know what punk is.
They see a picture they'relike're like ooh, what's it?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think Sid's up there for me Ithink I was in America that
show, wasn't it?
They got Bob Williams, yeah,yeah, and it's just the blood.
It's like the first, real well,I mean probably not the first,
but that picture of him justthere, just with the blood and
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the bass guitar.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
It's just this.
It doesn't really get much.
Uh more punk rock does it thanthat?
Uh, what's your uh favoritesong to perform live right now?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
funnily enough, probably, uh, usa, just because
it it's so fun, and that'sthat's also the song that
weirdly, like had such a weirdthing with that song, because I
wrote that in this room againand I was like really imagining
what it would be like to go toamerica and play this song,
almost like just as a bit of ajoke, like this would be funny,
(24:48):
like what can I do?
Like I was thinking, let's tryand write a song where I only
say you, usa and united statesof america.
That was the initial idea, toonly say those words and not say
anything else.
And and I did put a few otherlyrics in at the end.
And I was sitting here makingthis song, like really imagining
like us going to America andplaying this song, like just
because it was helping me justvisually.
(25:09):
It was a bit of a laugh, youknow.
And then it was so weirdbecause it was like two weeks
later, royal Blood called us andasked us if we wanted to go to
America.
So we had no plans to go toamerica.
Then we did this song and I justremember being in here having
like sort of just visualizingthis happening.
And then it happened and it waslike the first time where, you
know, I've read stuff aboutmanifestation and all these kind
(25:30):
of things, you know, but, beingfrom england, I'm very cynical
and very skeptical.
I try not to be, I'm quite.
I'm like I'm very open-mindedfor an english person, but I
come from pure cynicism, youknow and like.
But that was like a thing whereI actually made me think like I
wonder if in some way that thatI helped that become reality
just through.
I don't know, it's so weird.
So I have this weird attachmentto that song because I'm
(25:52):
convinced that that somehow somesomewhere in the universe,
someone, someone made it happen.
Yeah, in a weird way and it'sso.
I don't want to sound like acrazy person, but it felt so
like.
That felt so real.
It's bizarre.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
You got to test it out.
You should write a song aboutlike going to prison or
something and see if you getarrested.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I was going to say winning the lottery.
It seemed a bit nicer, butmaybe going to prison.
That would toughen me up.
I'll come back and beat theshit out my brother.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Oh dude did anything in the states rub you the wrong
way at all, have you?
Have you had any weirdexperiences?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
a girl asked me if I wanted to have a shower with her
directly after playing a show.
That kind of threw me off.
That's why that was my firstexperience of uh, something like
that.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I don't know if I would throw that in the bad
category.
I think that a little forward,but that's good.
That's good.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
That's the worst thing I can think of in America.
Isn't that brilliant?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, you're doing all right.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You never guess what happened, this awful thing.
I'm traumatized.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Now, what about when it comes to being in a band?
What's something you love aboutbeing in a band and what's
something that you hate aboutbeing in a band?
What was something you loveabout being in a band and what's
something that that you hateabout being in a band?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
the thing I love about is that you, like, you
don't feel I don't know, youdon't feel like you're wasting
your time.
It feels like it satisfies yoursoul.
You know, like, uh, justplaying with, going on.
It's like being on a permanentkind of adventure with, with,
well, ideally with your mates.
You know, I feel like it bondsyou as a group because you, you
(27:25):
have to see the best and worstof each other and it kind of you
do become like, as you know,you become like a family, like
your friendships become muchdeeper.
You know, because, uh, yeah,with with with a lot of friends,
I've found like you're onlyreally friends when you're
having a good time.
You know, like you're not.
You don't see the sort of theother side of people's
(27:46):
personalities when you're in aband.
You have no choice, you know.
But I like, and that's not abad thing, I think it's actually
a really good thing because, Idon't know, it teaches you
patience.
You developed your, you knowyour skills of how to deal with
other people Hell yeah, that youmight not otherwise have and I
find, like that's all reallyvaluable.
You know stuff that you cantake into back out into the
(28:07):
world.
You know, it's just a greatadventure.
You know, I feel like if I wereto die tomorrow I'd feel like,
oh, you know I really I at leasttried to do something I enjoyed
as much as I could, you know,and, yeah, just have a good time
.
But bad things about being in aband, I'd say, the only bad
thing it's not necessarily a badthing, but a hard thing is it's
(28:29):
just, I guess, trying tosustain yourself.
You know, like that, that's thehard thing in the early days.
You're trying to.
You know you have to if you'regoing to do it seriously.
The band has got to kind ofcome first, and not only does
that mean your jobs, whateverthat might be.
You know it's hard to have ajob and do a, do a proper
full-time band.
It's hard to have, you know, agirlfriend or boyfriend and do
(28:51):
have a full-time band as well,because you're always away.
You know, like you, sort ofthere are struggles, like real
world struggles, if you like, um, that are challenging, but also
I feel like they can't.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
That's kind of part, weirdly, it's part of the fun
and there's something to be saidfor, you know, people who never
fade from that, like nothingwill ever come before the art,
it doesn't matter, they, theywill.
You know, they will blow uptheir world time and time again,
um, you know, in the name of ofcreativity and and pushing
(29:26):
themselves to their limits, uh,artistically, and that's a crazy
life yeah, man, it is becauseeverything in the normal world
gets kind of destabilized by it,you know.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
But the thing is I've found, like writing and and
performing, but but particularlywriting like it's, it's like
therapeutic, you know, it's likeit's yeah, you know, if you
struggle to talk about how youfeel and a lot of people do, you
know, especially men like but alot of people struggle to talk
about how they feel and I find,like for me in a song, like I
(29:59):
can, I can say things I perhapswouldn't bother saying in the
real world and it and it makesme feel better.
You know, it's like I can putthings, instead of having to put
it into a person or somethinglike that, I can put it into
songs and it does.
It's quite kind of healing in aweird way.
And uh, like I've found I'vehad like the classic breakup
song.
I remember years ago we firststarted the band going through
(30:21):
like well, my girlfriend dumpedme basically, and rightly so,
because I was a terribleboyfriend, but um and uh and it
really like knocked me for six.
I was kind of like, you know,quite upset about it and uh and
I and I put it in a song.
It's on the first album it'scalled wasted days and literally
the next day I felt infinitelybetter and I remember that being
(30:41):
like such a like oh fuck, youknow just saying what, literally
exactly what I felt, but into asong, it almost took it out of
me and put it somewhere else,you know, like it was quite, um,
that's quite, quite powerful, Ithink, yeah, so I mean, I, I
would, I would never, I wouldnever tell somebody that being
in a band is easy, but it isdefinitely, as far as I've
(31:03):
experienced, one of the mostrewarding things I've ever done.
I guess pursuing anything thatyou really love would be the
same.
You know, um, it's just that wehappen to have done it in bands
, you know, but it is, I justcan't imagine doing anything
else.
I try to do normal things aswell and be a normal person a
bit, but I do struggle mentallybecause mentally I'm always
(31:26):
thinking about music.
You know, I struggle to switchthat off.
I'm trying to learn to switchit off, to be honest, because,
as we said, it's catastrophicfor, like everything else
outside of the band environment.
You know, like, um, yeah, it'sgood to find that, find a
balance, but that that's that.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
That's hard all right , bobby, a couple hypotheticals.
All right, uh, say you walk outyour rehearsal studio right now
and there's a time machinethere.
Okay, and yeah, time machineopens and you know, let's say
someone super cool, jimmyhendrix, comes out of it.
Okay, he's like yo, bobby, youknow, jump in this time machine
(32:06):
anywhere you want to go in theworld anytime.
Where are you going to go firstand why?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
pyramids.
I think I'd.
I think I'd have to, I'd buy,I'd go.
The first thing would be I'vegot to see, I've got to put an
end to this debate.
I need to know.
I need to fucking know what thehell is going on, because if
there's powers that they had, Iwant to, I want them, I want to
be able to levitate shit with myfucking hands I like that I
would love.
(32:33):
I want to know about thetechnology that these ancient
civilizations had.
You know, like, well, you seeall this shit.
I mean maybe I'll just watchtoo many TV shows, I don't know,
but like you know, you hearabout all that stuff and it's
just so fascinating, Like how,how did they build the fucking
pyramids?
I was taught my whole life thatthey were tombs, but they're
(32:56):
not tombs.
Anyway, that is another subject.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
All right, you get back from Egypt.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
You get back from exploring the pyramids you can
levitate.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
You've got all these secret powers.
You go back to your flat, youcrack open a drink and a genie
comes out of the bottle.
Okay, there's no beverage nobeverage inside, just a genie
comes out of the bottle.
Okay, yeah, there's no, nobeverage, no beverage inside,
just a genie, genie comes out hesays hey, bobby, nerves, big
fan, I'm gonna grant you onewish, oh, what's your wish?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
oh well, I mean the really obvious one wish, in my
opinion, and it's very cliche,but I almost don't want to say
it's so cliche but I'll sayanyway, maybe I'll have a second
stab, but it's got to be worldpeace, surely.
It's got to be everybody tohave the minimum requirements to
(33:51):
have a good life, you know, andno fucking war, none of that
bullshit, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I don't know if that's like multiple wishes in
one, but no, no, I think worldpeace means no war.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I like that you know, I mean that's it's.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
It's cliche, but I'll tell you what it speaks to your
personality, that you wouldn'tmind given.
You know, instead of hey, Iwant a bazillion dollars, or,
you know, I want this, I wantthat you're thinking about?
Yeah, I know, that was right,but first but at least first,
you're thinking about, you know,you're thinking about the
planet, you're thinking aboutthe big picture.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
So we, yeah, I mean, I think you appreciate that yeah
, there's too much.
There's too much fucked up shitgoing.
When you look at what we can doas human beings, like the
technology we can, you knoweverything that we do, that's
great.
And then, like we're doing allthis awful shit as well, it's
like why are we doing that?
You know been living on thisplanet of abundance.
You know which we're you knowdestroying, depending on what
news station you watch um, youknow, like we could, uh, I feel
(34:48):
like we could do better.
You know, like all the shitthat's going on, I feel like I
feel like it's you know ever.
I feel like, if everyone hadtheir basic requirements met
which shouldn't be impossiblewhen you got fucking a geezer
runs Amazon's got more moneythan you know, it's crazy.
I'm not saying he hasn't workedfor it, but like you know
surely, like I don't know if Icould sleep at night having like
hundreds of billions when, likepeople, people ain't got a pot
(35:12):
to piss in.
You know, like it's.
It's crazy how people areliving in some parts of the
world like we're, we're, we'rerich compared to most people and
we must be honest, like the wayliving over here in the west
there's not.
There are obviously, obviouslyin the west as well.
But, like you know, I feel likewe could do better.
I don't know, I don't know how.
Don't ask me to figure it out,but someone very clever could
come in and figure that out,hopefully, hopefully.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I like that.
I like that.
All right, last hypotheticalhere.
We've been to the pyramids, wegot world peace and you know,
let's just say, after thispodcast is finished up, you get
a call from your manager and hesays Bobby, you're never going
to believe this.
Okay, I just got a call fromColdplay and Chris Martin is out
(35:59):
of the band, he's quitting,he's joining the Peace Corps.
He's gone, him, and Harry, theband, yeah, the band is carrying
on and they're looking for anew singer.
You got to be.
It's all or nothing.
There's no more bad nerves,there's no side project.
(36:20):
What do you say?
Do you do?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
it.
Do you step up?
Oh God, do you hope?
Nah, no disrespect to them,though, but not in a million
years.
I'd rather be skint and doingthe band that I like than
joining some famous band,although I probably would join
Slipknot on percussion, to behonest.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Oh yeah, Just for the mask.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
For the mask.
How much fun would that be?
Absolutely, that's a runningjoke.
At the moment we're saying Ikeep joking that I'm going to
join Slipknot one day, that I'mgoing to join Slipknot and I
don't know if I might write asong and see if I manifest it
happening well, that's what I'msaying.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I mean, you're obviously dealing with some sort
of supernatural power there'ssomething here in the room it's,
there's something.
There's something there.
So just be careful.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
What you wish for, that's all I'll say with great
power comes great responsibilityworld peace and slipknot
awesome man, all right lastquestion here, bobby.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Last question what to you is the meaning of life?
Cool, bloody, hell, that's abig one, isn't it right?
Last question here, bobby.
Last question what to you isthe meaning of life?
Cool, bloody, yeah, that's abig one, isn't it big?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
last question the meaning of life I think, uh,
it's hard to say if it's themeaning, but I think, um,
finding out what makes you feelgood and, uh, like we were
saying earlier, pursuing thingsthat satisfy your soul, I think,
as on an individual level, Ithink, is, uh, yeah, very
meaningful, you know.
I think, because I feel like ifeverybody was encouraged to
(37:42):
pursue the thing they love, thenthey'll be living in love, you
know, they'll be living in joy,and, and when you live in those
things, that spreads, you know,and then we will have world
peace eventually one day, youknow, but whilst you know, I
think, if everyone's given equalopportunity and stuff which,
again, you know, and then wewill have world peace eventually
one day, you know.
But, whilst you know, I think,if everyone's given equal
opportunity and stuff, which,again, you know, is something
that I think we could do with,and who knows how many joe's
(38:04):
drummers are sitting over insome country where they haven't
even got clean water, you know,who knows was that?
Imagine if we had that equalopportunity for everybody, like,
and they were encouraged tofollow the thing that makes them
feel good, like.
Imagine, like, the vibration ofthe world, how good that would
feel, you know, like therewouldn't be any fucking war.
As soon as I'm trying to starta fucking war, we'd be like get,
(38:25):
get rid of him, get him out,you know, um, but I think I
think that's that's the thing.
It's just you've got to followyour.
Follow what makes you feel goodand life will be good.
It'll be tough, but it'll begood.
It'll be tough in a good way.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Awesome, bobby Nerves .
Man appreciate your time hereon the.
Sailor Jerry podcast Stillnervous out May 31st.
Congrats on the new album.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Thank you.
Thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Super stoked.
You're playing shows with theHives in September.
You've got Reading and LeedsFestival in August.
Ohana Festival that's coming uptoo.
A lot of good stuff on tap forthe band.
So congrats on all your success, man.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Thank you, man.
I appreciate it.
Thanks so much, honestly.
We, as the band, reallyappreciate people like
yourselves taking the time totalk to us about it.
It's great.
Hell yeah, man.
Big bad Bobby Nerves, thank you for being a special
guest here on the Sailor Jerrypodcast.
My man, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm doing very well, thank you.
I'm suffering from jet lagslightly because of well,
because of the jet.
It wasn't a private jet, though, it was British Airways economy
.
We just came back from Americayesterday, so I'm a little bit
whoa.
Other than that, I'm prettygood.
Yeah.
And how many times have youguys done the States?
(00:28):
Now?
That was our third time.
We first went out there withRoyal Blood in when?
Was it August last year?
They invited us to come out,which was very kind of them to
do so.
They were the first band oftheir size, you know, to sort of
say come and play with us.
You know, in America we werelike like what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
um, but yeah, it was great so that was the first.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, then we did.
We went back out there for alittle headline run with a band
called lily, like a co-headlinething she did on the west coast,
and then, yeah, and then, andthen this big month is crazy man
.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, it's awesome, man.
Congrats on everything you guysgot going.
You know, I remember veryspecifically in the early Bronx
days the first time we went tothe UK and it was such an
incredible experience.
But I kind of feel like it'snowhere near as cool when an
American band goes to the UK.
It's always the cool thing isalways the English band.
(01:21):
You know coming to the Statesand I just wanted to get your
kind of take on that because atleast for me, I think going back
to England was.
You know, it's a smaller place,there's more tradition and it's
more of a specific type ofplace and vibe and I was so
stoked to witness it and to be apart of it and the shows there
were so crazy.
You know just the music historyin England is incredible and
(01:45):
obviously you know the punk rockscene, you know, in London and
Manchester and all thosedifferent pockets.
We had the best time.
But for you, for the bandcoming over to America for the
first time, I feel like when youcome over to America it's just
like it has to just be insanebecause it's so huge, it's so
wide open, there's so manydifferent things happening.
(02:07):
What was it like for you guysthe first time you came over?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Well, I mean, yeah, it was crazy.
I feel like England.
There's like a level ofsnobbery here a little bit, at
least to me that they don't seemto have in America.
In America it feels like theway people act in America at the
shows I've played is how you'dexpect people from England to
act, because you know they'vegot the Beatles coming from
there the Clash You'd thinkthere'd be, but it's almost like
(02:33):
there's a bit more of asnobbery, like I said, in
England, whereas in America itwas not like that.
It felt like everybody was justreally excited, Mainly that
we're from England, but also you, you know, and they like the
music.
I think I hope, um, no, it'sbeen great.
I think it's, probably it's.
It might, might be our favoriteplace to play.
I mean, europe is great as well.
(02:53):
Um, they were the first, thatwas the first place.
Um, that people understood theband, you know.
But, uh, but yeah, no, it's,it's mad.
We never thought we'd get to goto america.
It feels like it's big as well.
Holy shit, it's big.
You know, these drives, man,like you drive.
You drive for like 10 hours andyou've just you're not even
moved on the on the map.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
It's pretty wild, getting used to that um now, do
you have a driver or is someonein the van driving?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
oh, this is our john, our bass player.
He does absolutely 100 of thedriving.
Yeah, we do have.
I know it's crazy.
I think he I don't think hetrusts any of the rest of us to
drive and I don't blame him,although he did say to me
recently that if he was, if hehad to trust anyone else with it
, it would be me.
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
So I'm safe as well, everybody yeah, we had, uh, we
I've done a little bit ofdriving in the uk before and it
was like, oh man, I mean thestreets are so small and I was
scared out of my mind.
You know, I've almost got, youknow, run over, crossing the
street over there so manygoddamn times.
But yeah, it's, it's a tripwhen it's when it's the other
way around your streets here arefucking huge, like we've got
(04:01):
the same.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
We have the same fear when we're here, like so let's
cross over the road to go towalmart, and it's like this five
carriageway, 10 lanes or fiveon each side, and it's just like
I always forget which way tolook and it's just oh, I should
just be, I stay in the hotel,stay in the hotel and the venue.
I can't, I'll get hurt.
Oh, man.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
well you guys.
You guys have your second albumthat's about to drop here, may
31st and congratulations on theupcoming release.
What's the vibe like in theband right now, man?
I mean, you guys got a calendarfull of great shows, festivals
coming up the rest of the year,new album out.
How's everybody feeling?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I think, you know, we never thought we would get to
do a second album.
We weren't even planning onbeing a band when this started.
It was meant to be just onealbum, you know, for fun, just
for the sake of it, because whatelse are you going to do, you
know?
And yeah, so to have made it tothis point where we're doing a
second album and people, somepeople, are keen, keen to hear
(05:05):
it, and we're playing theseamazing shows with so many
amazing bands, it's this.
Yeah, I mean we're all, we'retired from a lot of gigs, but
we're very excited.
Um, it's yeah, it's like a Idon't know, I don't want to say
dream come true, but I mean itkind of is.
You know, we're just doing thething that we love against
literally all the odds.
All the people tell you not todo it, all the financial strains
(05:29):
which are, you know, very real.
Yeah, it's brilliant.
We just love it, you know.
So we're excited for people tohear this new album and then to
do another one.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I'm already thinking about the next one.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
you know I want to do another one.
I miss the writing.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
It is exciting to have you know, and you just
reminded me of a feeling of youknow, because I think,
especially in the punk rockworld and in the underground
music world there is such a youknow, there's an idea that you
basically you're going to getone album.
You know the band will implodeor things will happen and life
(06:03):
will go different ways, but atleast you'll be able to have
this time where you got together, you made some music, If you
got lucky enough, you got arecord deal, you got to put it
out, you got to play some shows,but there is this kind of
ideology that most bands arenever even going to get to a
second album and so what you do,it's a big feeling.
(06:24):
It's like, oh shit.
It's kind of like, oh man,we're an actual like, we're an
actual band.
Now we got two albums yeah,it's weird.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
It's like it's uh, I don't know the first one, as you
know, like when you do thefirst one, you're not thinking
about anything other than justyour sort of uh passion for
doing it.
You know like.
So then when you, when you makeit to that second one, it's
sort of like going into thestudio again, right, you're like
everything's different becausethere's this weird expectation
now and you're like it canreally get in your head if you
let it.
(06:53):
You know, um, it's so.
It's kind of like it'sbittersweet because you have to,
like you have to figure out howto sort of I don't know focus
and and do what you did beforewith the same passion and energy
, without letting thedistractions of the expectation
and things get in the way.
That was, that was kind ofstrange, but I think we kind of
did that in the end.
Like I, just what I realizedwas that when you're doing a
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second album, you just have todo what you did the first time
around, but not as in try tocopy the songs, but you're
trying to just write from thesame like kind of sense of
freedom.
You know, just like, what do Iwant to write?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
what do I like, what do I think sounds good and
hopefully it still soundsrelatively within the genre, you
know, unless you want to justgo full blown and do, uh, do
what you guys did and do amariachi, no mariachi, or a
sergeant pepper, you know, justdo something completely left
yeah, well, you know it's crazywith with the second bronx album
it was a total head fuck for me, like like everything you're
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talking about, like, okay, thefirst album was just kind of an
explosion of of nerves andenergy up to that point and, uh,
it came out and it was amazing.
And then it was like for us wehad, okay, this is like our
major label record, we had thisbig producer and man, I just
mentally I was like for us.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
We had okay, this is like our major label record.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
We had this big producer and man, I just
mentally I was not ready forthat.
I was, just like you know, somepunk rock kid just like wanted
to, you know, scream into amicrophone and I wasn't ready to
take that like next step, likeyou know, mentally, in the
studio and dude it was, oh God,it was a fucking nightmare dude.
It was a nightmare in thestudio and dude it, oh god, it
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was a fucking nightmare dude, itwas a nightmare.
I I listened back to thatrecord and I and I I love it but
still it's like, oh, it was socrazy.
And then, on the opposite sideof that, with the l bronx band,
we wrote that first record andit felt so good that it was just
a complete natural flow intothe second record.
Like we just kept writing andit was like all of a sudden it
was like boom, our second.
Just kept writing and it waslike all of a sudden it was like
boom, our second record's done.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And it was like before we even blinked, way
better to do it that way I wasreading a interview where you
were talking about that wholething, that process like, and
just how how natural it felt andhow freeing it was to do
something you know likesomething that nobody would have
ever in a million yearsexpected you to do.
And it's like I found that whenI was in the studio doing this,
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this second one, like most ofthe songs on this record, came
from obviously we didn't it'snot like a complete change, but
they came from me going I justwant to do something that makes
me feel creatively satisfied,rather than worrying about it
being this or that, and it's asort of similar, similar energy
in terms of just being free tojust explore something
creatively, you know, becausethere's nothing worse than
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getting stuck, you know, whenyou're like, oh, I've got to
write something that will fitthe band.
What the fuck does that evenmean?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
you know, like it's just, it really can stunt your,
your mind you know, yeah, it'stough man like any any sort of
confines in a creative realm.
There's nothing worse likeyou're saying that, being in the
studio and feeling like youhave to write a certain type of
song, make a certain type ofrecord, be a certain type of
band it's just like fuck allthat man I put a little bit of
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like uh in the beginning of oneof the songs on this album.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
There was I built this like huge, like brazilian
samba, like intro to like try tomake it sound like it had been
recorded like on the streets ofbrazil.
I did all these samples, builtthis whole thing because I
wanted to.
I was just so desperate to dosomething else.
You know, and I've been tobrazil and like, the music in
brazil is so amazing and I didall this whole thing and the
band were like no, you're notdoing that, but I was like it
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did.
It made me think of, uh, ofwhat you guys did with the
Mariachi band.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
That was the classic second album.
All right, hear me out, guys,hear me out.
We're going to go Brazilianstreet drums.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Exactly, exactly, and I think they were probably
right.
It did sound cool, but theywere like everyone was just
looking at me like I think thisis a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah you got to save that for the third record.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
You got to save that for the third record, you gotta
say yeah, well, I think thirdrecord, yeah, oh god, it's so
funny, man, I just yeah justlike creative process but yeah,
third album is gonna be just allbrazilian samba.
We're gonna say, we're gonnacopy.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, yeah, well, that's like you know.
The first album is like thefirst album, the second album is
supposed to be like the bestversion of the first album, and
then the third record is whenyou go full experimentation.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah the third record is when you really start
getting weird disco tech housesomething really heavy.
I'm on ram's side maybe, Idon't know, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So, uh, you know you guys havebeen around for a while.
The band is is kind of justgetting discovered right now by
a lot of new people, which isreally awesome, awesome and
perfect timing with the albumgetting ready to drop here, but
just kind of going backwards alittle bit for our listeners
before the band kind of gottogether.
(11:35):
What's your background in music?
When did music kind of firstbecome a thing for you?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, well, I think for me it came from my parents,
particularly my mom, because shewas a music teacher, basically
a secondary school like a highschool music teacher.
Oh awesome.
You know, I was just exposed toloads of music, like musicals
as well.
My mum's really into that sortof stuff.
So from a young age I was kindof like singing along to various
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musicals and things like that.
Various musicals and thingslike that.
Um, so that's sort of where itcame.
But then when I went into um,when I, when I went to high
school, I sort of discoveredlike nirvana and stuff, and uh,
nirvana was like the thing thatgot me to play drums.
Um, and being able to playdrums I found to be such a
valuable thing for me.
When I'm like writing a song,you know I can, just because I
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played drums, I can just playand I don't have to think about
it so much.
So I can think about the songyou know in my head while I'm
sort of playing.
So that's ended up being areally valuable thing for me.
But so I listened to like Bowieand stuff growing up in the car
on the way to school, becauseit was like my dad's music.
I was almost like rebellingagainst it, like I liked it at
the and I was like, oh, I don'tlike this.
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I found Nirvana and Slipknotand I was like, there, this is
my stuff.
Although then, as it turns outlater on in life, I was like, oh
wow, I love all my dad's music,but no, so it sort of came from
that really, and then justplayed drums in a few bands in
high school and joined a metalband, played in a metal band for
years on drums and then I sortof tried to do like more poppy
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stuff.
This is the funny thing badnerves came along right when I
was like I got to this pointwhere I I felt like I hadn't
found the music I wanted to make.
I felt like I could.
I had some of the tools to beable to do it, like you play a
bit guitar, do whatever, but Ihadn't found like the genre, if
you like, that I really liked.
I was trying to do like somelike, uh, electro stuff,
electronic, like chilled outstuff, because I was smoking a
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lot of weed, just trying to dosome really slow like beats, you
know which was cool, like youput melodies over it, but it
didn't give you that adrenalineof, like you know, metal that
I'd had before.
And then I found all the powerpop, the power pop and the punk
stuff which I hadn't reallylistened to loads before, and it
just, uh, it just clicked.
I was like, wow, you can domelody and you can do anger and
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you can mash it into one, andit's like you know.
And then I basically haven'tstopped since then and that was
it.
Light bulb went on.
I was I don't even have to begood at the instruments, I can
just play a beat and just playsome chords, you know like, and
it's yeah, that's basically whatwe've built on.
The same thing that, uh, it'slike ramones, you know, you
can't.
Uh, we're not necessarily greatour instruments, but we, we try
hard and we uh, yeah, I don'tknow, we just try to write as
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many songs as we can hope that acouple of good ones come out
hell yeah, when.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
So how did you make the transition from drumming to
singing?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
well, I was kind of like I'd always I because I'd
always sang.
Since I was a kid.
That was like my you know firstinstrument, if you will, but I,
um, I kind of wasn't very cool.
I didn't think when I was goingto high school, I don't want to
be some singer.
I was playing clarinet as well.
I forgot to mention that I wasplaying clarinet for like five
years nothing cooler thanclarinet so when I started high
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school, I was like I didn't doany of that.
I was just gonna play drums, youknow, in nirvana and all that
stuff, like it's like guitar,yeah.
And then I played drums forbasically 10 years, you know,
and that was my main thing.
And it wasn't until I was likein my mid-20s, I guess, or early
, like 23, 4,.
I was like you know, I want totry writing my own songs.
And then did that for a coupleof years and yeah, and then me
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and will basically just startedthis band.
He texted me on.
He actually texted me christmas2014 and said let's do a band.
And I thought I was thinkinglike refused, you know, that
swedish band refused, kind ofthing.
Let's do something like that andthen, uh, and he was like nah,
nah let's not do that.
No, disrespect to that, heloves them, but he's like, no, I
don't want to do that, uh, andhe sent me jay.
Jay re Blood Visions album.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Oh yeah classic.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, he sent me Radioactivity's first album,
which is obviously the MarkMen's sort of spin-off, if you
like, and those two albums justblew my mind.
I hadn't really heard that sortof kind of garage punk kind of
thing.
If I had, I didn't rememberhearing it.
You know, because I came fromthe metal side.
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I used to be very much intothis whole.
Everything has to be so tightand like, well played, whatever
that means.
Yeah, and I came from that worldand like, and once I got into
this punk thing, you know, and Istarted to realize how much I
actually loved the scrappinessof it, it was like everything
changed.
I went from thinking you had toplay everything perfectly and
everything had to be complicatedto realizing that I'd been like
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tricked.
You know that, actually, thatthat is not the way it is at all
, like you know, obviously, thatmusic is what it is and it's
great, but like there'ssomething in that, the essence
of people playing.
It's almost better when theycan't play, you know it's always
better when it's just baby fastyeah exactly, and that's just
that just blew my minddiscovering that.
You know, I was like holy shit,this is so much more fun.
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You know, the pressure's kindof off, it's like just go,
follow your gut.
You know, you don't have toworry about being so great or
anything like that, as long asyou're you put your all into it.
It's, that's it, you know, andthat means something.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
It's great yeah, that's awesome, man, that's
awesome.
Um, you know, one of the thingsthat I really love about the
band are the vocal melodies uh,you know whether whether it's a
super fast song like antidote ora mid-tempo song, like you
should know by now, vocalmelodies are always insanely
catchy.
Um, where, where does that kindof come from?
(17:01):
You know what I mean.
Like, I know melody is animportant thing for you, um, but
when you're writing a song, youknow, like you're saying
multi-instrumentalist here, uh,we got drums, we got clarinet,
we got vocals, we got you know,we got it all.
Uh, like what, what's your kindof writing process?
And where do you put likemelody and lyrics?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
um, you know, on the sort of totem pole of importance
in a song yeah, I mean, for meI feel like melody is the number
one important thing, to behonest, like because you know
you could take the most basic uh, you know, riff, you know, or
whatever chords.
You know just three chordswhere two chords, even if you're
feeling like it, if you'refeeling really lazy, and if you
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find a, if you find a melodythat, um, that works, that hits,
well, then the music can be sobasic, you know, you can, the
beat can just be the same beat,the whole, like antidote.
That is literally.
I.
I recorded, I think, maybe twobars of the of the beat and
there's one bit where it opensthe hats up and it's like get
and get and get and get a symboland then it repeats, and then I
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pasted it and I didn't changeit.
I thought I wanted it to becompletely robotic, not not no,
like variety at all and um, andthat's like a good example, like
, and that's just a, that's acouple.
But then I found a melody thatworked and it ended up being
probably one of my favoritesongs in terms of melody on that
album.
I don't know, but no, so I findlike when I'm writing stuff
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sometimes I'll just try and getlike a verse and a chorus idea,
super rough you know, on, likeguitars and drums or whatever,
and then I'll sit there before Igo any further and see if I can
catch some sort of melody overit.
And then, if I do, then I'mthen I'm like, oh okay, this is.
Then it gives me that sort oflike the encouragement to to go
forward with it, because there'sbeen times where I've like
worked on the music, got thiswhole song all laid out and and
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I've left the vocals till theend, and then I get there and I
can't, I can't find somethingthat is that I like enough.
So I uh, yeah, I think melodyis the most important thing.
That's why I just find that'swhat makes you want to go back
and listen to a song.
You know, like it's not to saythat everything has to be super
cheesy.
You know, abba beetles kind oflike pop melodies all the time.
There's loads of music I likewhich isn't hasn't got that
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constant, like you know hook onthe top.
But for me personally, with thissort of music, I I just want it
to be instant.
If I'm in the mood forlistening to this kind of music,
I want there to be hooks, youknow, so yeah, so I spend a lot
of time just trying to findthose hooks.
Really, you know, I don't wantthe verse to be less catchy than
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the chorus, I want it to becatchy from the minute the
vocals start to the end of thesong.
You know, because I just Idon't know, it's like the, I
like, I think from listening tothe beatles so much, I, I just
love that almost all of theirsongs, certainly the sort of
latest albums, like it's justall catchy.
You know there's like there'snot one, there's not one bit
that doesn't hook you in.
You know the verse of this song, the middle eight of that song
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is all has a hook and I just Ijust find that so great yeah,
that's.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
That's awesome man.
That's a good point.
If the chorus is catchy, whycan't the verse be catchy?
Why can't the whole fuckingsong be catchy?
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, it can.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
And you feel that when you listen to Bad Nerves,
you hear that, you feel that andthe songs stick in your head.
And from the first album in2020, and you know you guys
released live in london 2023 andand now with this album, I
really feel like uh, the song sofar off of uh, still nervous,
like you guys have kind of found, you know, your spot as a band
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and and the songs, man, they'reso, they're so good thanks, dude
.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I really appreciate that.
It's been, uh, it's been, aweird process this one, because
I did a lot of this one on myown, so it's been a little bit
more scary.
You know, I know that I like it.
It's just always that thing ofwill other people like it?
You know, you don't really know.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, that's the kicker right.
It's like okay, it's great tomake an album that you love, but
it would be awesome if someother people enjoyed it as well.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, it does help.
I'm not seeking validation andthen I get it and I think oh, it
does feel nice actually.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Awesome man.
A couple questions here fromthe internet.
We got a lot of questions fromthe internet, oh shit.
Oh, no, yeah, watch out, herecomes the internet.
Who wins in a fight betweenPrince Harry and Prince William?
In a fight between Prince Harryand Prince William.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I mean I, I I prefer Harry to William, I think, cause
he's at least Harry's tried tosort of, he's tried to, he's
tried to distance himself alittle bit from some of the
fucked up shit.
That I can't go too deep intothe Royal family stuff I was
just turning to a conspiracypodcast.
I'm going to go, I'll go with,I'll go with Harry, even, um,
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I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I'll go with you know , I'll go with harry, even
though I'm not too sure.
Harry's the special forces,right?
Harry did, harry did, uh, yeah,okay, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I don't mean special forces in quotes yeah, yeah, sky
news were there to film himdoing the special forces.
That, there you go, let's justget you some film?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
yeah, that video him like running, running to the
helicopter or whatever.
That viral video is great whenhe takes off his mic and runs uh
all right, you're going, harry,I'm gonna give it to william
just because of older brotherpower.
I feel like, yeah, as a youngerbrother, I can attest that
older brother power is very realand I it's, it's, it takes.
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It takes a miracle for ayounger brother to beat the
older brother.
It's there's, just it does nothappen miracle for a younger
brother to beat the olderbrother.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
It's there's just it does not happen.
I think I must be, I'm gonnahave to disagree, because I have
a younger brother and I used toI would always win the fight
somewhere younger, because hewas he's three years younger
than me.
He was a lot smaller for likethe first 20 years and then I
feel like all of our fightingand play, fighting, fight made
him a lot tougher than I am andnow he's like way physically
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stronger than me, he looksbetter than me and I just if we
got in a fight, I think I don'tthink I stand a chance.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
The student has become the teacher.
I don't know, though.
Yeah, you'd be surprised.
Yeah, actually, maybe you'reright, maybe I am really strong.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Fuck it.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
That's the thing.
What's so frustrating aboutbeing the younger brother is,
even if you know, like you'resaying, you know you've been
beating him up his whole life.
He's got a chip on his shoulder.
He's super buff now, butthere's still.
There's that one thing whereit's just no matter what.
He's never going to be able toget over on you.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
It's just not.
It's just like a law of theworld I like that.
Yeah, I'm gonna start.
I'm gonna start manifestingthat and then I'm gonna
challenge into a jewel all right.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Who is the most iconic punk rocker?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I mean for me, for me probably joey ramone, oh, then
again I don't know joestrummer's quite high up there
as well, for me.
I mean, I think the pistolswere pretty iconic, you know,
like with what they did withthat one album and just the
timing of it all um, my initialthought was sid vicious, just
because poster boy.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, when you think about the word iconic, the look,
you know, we've all seen thephotos and it's like he's just
one of those guys of people whodon't know what punk is.
They see a picture they'relike're like ooh, what's it?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think Sid's up there for me Ithink I was in America that
show, wasn't it?
They got Bob Williams, yeah,yeah, and it's just the blood.
It's like the first, real well,I mean probably not the first,
but that picture of him justthere, just with the blood and
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the bass guitar.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
It's just this.
It doesn't really get much.
Uh more punk rock does it thanthat?
Uh, what's your uh favoritesong to perform live right now?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
funnily enough, probably, uh, usa, just because
it it's so fun, and that'sthat's also the song that
weirdly, like had such a weirdthing with that song, because I
wrote that in this room againand I was like really imagining
what it would be like to go toamerica and play this song,
almost like just as a bit of ajoke, like this would be funny,
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like what can I do?
Like I was thinking, let's tryand write a song where I only
say you, usa and united statesof america.
That was the initial idea, toonly say those words and not say
anything else.
And and I did put a few otherlyrics in at the end.
And I was sitting here makingthis song, like really imagining
like us going to America andplaying this song, like just
because it was helping me justvisually.
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It was a bit of a laugh, youknow.
And then it was so weirdbecause it was like two weeks
later, royal Blood called us andasked us if we wanted to go to
America.
So we had no plans to go toamerica.
Then we did this song and I justremember being in here having
like sort of just visualizingthis happening.
And then it happened and it waslike the first time where, you
know, I've read stuff aboutmanifestation and all these kind
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of things, you know, but, beingfrom england, I'm very cynical
and very skeptical.
I try not to be, I'm quite.
I'm like I'm very open-mindedfor an english person, but I
come from pure cynicism, youknow and like.
But that was like a thing whereI actually made me think like I
wonder if in some way that thatI helped that become reality
just through.
I don't know, it's so weird.
So I have this weird attachmentto that song because I'm
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convinced that that somehow somesomewhere in the universe,
someone, someone made it happen.
Yeah, in a weird way and it'sso.
I don't want to sound like acrazy person, but it felt so
like.
That felt so real.
It's bizarre.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
You got to test it out.
You should write a song aboutlike going to prison or
something and see if you getarrested.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I was going to say winning the lottery.
It seemed a bit nicer, butmaybe going to prison.
That would toughen me up.
I'll come back and beat theshit out my brother.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Oh dude did anything in the states rub you the wrong
way at all, have you?
Have you had any weirdexperiences?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
a girl asked me if I wanted to have a shower with her
directly after playing a show.
That kind of threw me off.
That's why that was my firstexperience of uh, something like
that.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I don't know if I would throw that in the bad
category.
I think that a little forward,but that's good.
That's good.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
That's the worst thing I can think of in America.
Isn't that brilliant?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, you're doing all right.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You never guess what happened, this awful thing.
I'm traumatized.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Now, what about when it comes to being in a band?
What's something you love aboutbeing in a band and what's
something that you hate aboutbeing in a band?
What was something you loveabout being in a band and what's
something that that you hateabout being in a band?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
the thing I love about is that you, like, you
don't feel I don't know, youdon't feel like you're wasting
your time.
It feels like it satisfies yoursoul.
You know, like, uh, justplaying with, going on.
It's like being on a permanentkind of adventure with, with,
well, ideally with your mates.
You know, I feel like it bondsyou as a group because you, you
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have to see the best and worstof each other and it kind of you
do become like, as you know,you become like a family, like
your friendships become muchdeeper.
You know, because, uh, yeah,with with with a lot of friends,
I've found like you're onlyreally friends when you're
having a good time.
You know, like you're not.
You don't see the sort of theother side of people's
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personalities when you're in aband.
You have no choice, you know.
But I like, and that's not abad thing, I think it's actually
a really good thing because, Idon't know, it teaches you
patience.
You developed your, you knowyour skills of how to deal with
other people Hell yeah, that youmight not otherwise have and I
find, like that's all reallyvaluable.
You know stuff that you cantake into back out into the
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world.
You know, it's just a greatadventure.
You know, I feel like if I wereto die tomorrow I'd feel like,
oh, you know I really I at leasttried to do something I enjoyed
as much as I could, you know,and, yeah, just have a good time
.
But bad things about being in aband, I'd say, the only bad
thing it's not necessarily a badthing, but a hard thing is it's
(28:29):
just, I guess, trying tosustain yourself.
You know, like that, that's thehard thing in the early days.
You're trying to.
You know you have to if you'regoing to do it seriously.
The band has got to kind ofcome first, and not only does
that mean your jobs, whateverthat might be.
You know it's hard to have ajob and do a, do a proper
full-time band.
It's hard to have, you know, agirlfriend or boyfriend and do
(28:51):
have a full-time band as well,because you're always away.
You know, like you, sort ofthere are struggles, like real
world struggles, if you like, um, that are challenging, but also
I feel like they can't.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
That's kind of part, weirdly, it's part of the fun
and there's something to be saidfor, you know, people who never
fade from that, like nothingwill ever come before the art,
it doesn't matter, they, theywill.
You know, they will blow uptheir world time and time again,
um, you know, in the name of ofcreativity and and pushing
(29:26):
themselves to their limits, uh,artistically, and that's a crazy
life yeah, man, it is becauseeverything in the normal world
gets kind of destabilized by it,you know.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
But the thing is I've found, like writing and and
performing, but but particularlywriting like it's, it's like
therapeutic, you know, it's likeit's yeah, you know, if you
struggle to talk about how youfeel and a lot of people do, you
know, especially men like but alot of people struggle to talk
about how they feel and I find,like for me in a song, like I
(29:59):
can, I can say things I perhapswouldn't bother saying in the
real world and it and it makesme feel better.
You know, it's like I can putthings, instead of having to put
it into a person or somethinglike that, I can put it into
songs and it does.
It's quite kind of healing in aweird way.
And uh, like I've found I'vehad like the classic breakup
song.
I remember years ago we firststarted the band going through
(30:21):
like well, my girlfriend dumpedme basically, and rightly so,
because I was a terribleboyfriend, but um and uh and it
really like knocked me for six.
I was kind of like, you know,quite upset about it and uh and
I and I put it in a song.
It's on the first album it'scalled wasted days and literally
the next day I felt infinitelybetter and I remember that being
(30:41):
like such a like oh fuck, youknow just saying what, literally
exactly what I felt, but into asong, it almost took it out of
me and put it somewhere else,you know, like it was quite, um,
that's quite, quite powerful, Ithink, yeah, so I mean, I, I
would, I would never, I wouldnever tell somebody that being
in a band is easy, but it isdefinitely, as far as I've
(31:03):
experienced, one of the mostrewarding things I've ever done.
I guess pursuing anything thatyou really love would be the
same.
You know, um, it's just that wehappen to have done it in bands
, you know, but it is, I justcan't imagine doing anything
else.
I try to do normal things aswell and be a normal person a
bit, but I do struggle mentallybecause mentally I'm always
(31:26):
thinking about music.
You know, I struggle to switchthat off.
I'm trying to learn to switchit off, to be honest, because,
as we said, it's catastrophicfor, like everything else
outside of the band environment.
You know, like, um, yeah, it'sgood to find that, find a
balance, but that that's that.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
That's hard all right , bobby, a couple hypotheticals.
All right, uh, say you walk outyour rehearsal studio right now
and there's a time machinethere.
Okay, and yeah, time machineopens and you know, let's say
someone super cool, jimmyhendrix, comes out of it.
Okay, he's like yo, bobby, youknow, jump in this time machine
(32:06):
anywhere you want to go in theworld anytime.
Where are you going to go firstand why?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
pyramids.
I think I'd.
I think I'd have to, I'd buy,I'd go.
The first thing would be I'vegot to see, I've got to put an
end to this debate.
I need to know.
I need to fucking know what thehell is going on, because if
there's powers that they had, Iwant to, I want them, I want to
be able to levitate shit with myfucking hands I like that I
would love.
(32:33):
I want to know about thetechnology that these ancient
civilizations had.
You know, like, well, you seeall this shit.
I mean maybe I'll just watchtoo many TV shows, I don't know,
but like you know, you hearabout all that stuff and it's
just so fascinating, Like how,how did they build the fucking
pyramids?
I was taught my whole life thatthey were tombs, but they're
(32:56):
not tombs.
Anyway, that is another subject.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
All right, you get back from Egypt.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
You get back from exploring the pyramids you can
levitate.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
You've got all these secret powers.
You go back to your flat, youcrack open a drink and a genie
comes out of the bottle.
Okay, there's no beverage nobeverage inside, just a genie
comes out of the bottle.
Okay, yeah, there's no, nobeverage, no beverage inside,
just a genie, genie comes out hesays hey, bobby, nerves, big
fan, I'm gonna grant you onewish, oh, what's your wish?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
oh well, I mean the really obvious one wish, in my
opinion, and it's very cliche,but I almost don't want to say
it's so cliche but I'll sayanyway, maybe I'll have a second
stab, but it's got to be worldpeace, surely.
It's got to be everybody tohave the minimum requirements to
(33:51):
have a good life, you know, andno fucking war, none of that
bullshit, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I don't know if that's like multiple wishes in
one, but no, no, I think worldpeace means no war.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I like that you know, I mean that's it's.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
It's cliche, but I'll tell you what it speaks to your
personality, that you wouldn'tmind given.
You know, instead of hey, Iwant a bazillion dollars, or,
you know, I want this, I wantthat you're thinking about?
Yeah, I know, that was right,but first but at least first,
you're thinking about, you know,you're thinking about the
planet, you're thinking aboutthe big picture.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
So we, yeah, I mean, I think you appreciate that yeah
, there's too much.
There's too much fucked up shitgoing.
When you look at what we can doas human beings, like the
technology we can, you knoweverything that we do, that's
great.
And then, like we're doing allthis awful shit as well, it's
like why are we doing that?
You know been living on thisplanet of abundance.
You know which we're you knowdestroying, depending on what
news station you watch um, youknow, like we could, uh, I feel
(34:48):
like we could do better.
You know, like all the shitthat's going on, I feel like I
feel like it's you know ever.
I feel like, if everyone hadtheir basic requirements met
which shouldn't be impossiblewhen you got fucking a geezer
runs Amazon's got more moneythan you know, it's crazy.
I'm not saying he hasn't workedfor it, but like you know
surely, like I don't know if Icould sleep at night having like
hundreds of billions when, likepeople, people ain't got a pot
(35:12):
to piss in.
You know, like it's.
It's crazy how people areliving in some parts of the
world like we're, we're, we'rerich compared to most people and
we must be honest, like the wayliving over here in the west
there's not.
There are obviously, obviouslyin the west as well.
But, like you know, I feel likewe could do better.
I don't know, I don't know how.
Don't ask me to figure it out,but someone very clever could
come in and figure that out,hopefully, hopefully.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I like that.
I like that.
All right, last hypotheticalhere.
We've been to the pyramids, wegot world peace and you know,
let's just say, after thispodcast is finished up, you get
a call from your manager and hesays Bobby, you're never going
to believe this.
Okay, I just got a call fromColdplay and Chris Martin is out
(35:59):
of the band, he's quitting,he's joining the Peace Corps.
He's gone, him, and Harry, theband, yeah, the band is carrying
on and they're looking for anew singer.
You got to be.
It's all or nothing.
There's no more bad nerves,there's no side project.
(36:20):
What do you say?
Do you do?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
it.
Do you step up?
Oh God, do you hope?
Nah, no disrespect to them,though, but not in a million
years.
I'd rather be skint and doingthe band that I like than
joining some famous band,although I probably would join
Slipknot on percussion, to behonest.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Oh yeah, Just for the mask.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
For the mask.
How much fun would that be?
Absolutely, that's a runningjoke.
At the moment we're saying Ikeep joking that I'm going to
join Slipknot one day, that I'mgoing to join Slipknot and I
don't know if I might write asong and see if I manifest it
happening well, that's what I'msaying.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I mean, you're obviously dealing with some sort
of supernatural power there'ssomething here in the room it's,
there's something.
There's something there.
So just be careful.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
What you wish for, that's all I'll say with great
power comes great responsibilityworld peace and slipknot
awesome man, all right lastquestion here, bobby.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Last question what to you is the meaning of life?
Cool, bloody, hell, that's abig one, isn't it right?
Last question here, bobby.
Last question what to you isthe meaning of life?
Cool, bloody, yeah, that's abig one, isn't it big?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
last question the meaning of life I think, uh,
it's hard to say if it's themeaning, but I think, um,
finding out what makes you feelgood and, uh, like we were
saying earlier, pursuing thingsthat satisfy your soul, I think,
as on an individual level, Ithink, is, uh, yeah, very
meaningful, you know.
I think, because I feel like ifeverybody was encouraged to
(37:42):
pursue the thing they love, thenthey'll be living in love, you
know, they'll be living in joy,and, and when you live in those
things, that spreads, you know,and then we will have world
peace eventually one day, youknow, but whilst you know, I
think, if everyone's given equalopportunity and stuff which,
again, you know, and then wewill have world peace eventually
one day, you know.
But, whilst you know, I think,if everyone's given equal
opportunity and stuff, which,again, you know, is something
that I think we could do with,and who knows how many joe's
(38:04):
drummers are sitting over insome country where they haven't
even got clean water, you know,who knows was that?
Imagine if we had that equalopportunity for everybody, like,
and they were encouraged tofollow the thing that makes them
feel good, like.
Imagine, like, the vibration ofthe world, how good that would
feel, you know, like therewouldn't be any fucking war.
As soon as I'm trying to starta fucking war, we'd be like get,
(38:25):
get rid of him, get him out,you know, um, but I think I
think that's that's the thing.
It's just you've got to followyour.
Follow what makes you feel goodand life will be good.
It'll be tough, but it'll begood.
It'll be tough in a good way.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Awesome, bobby Nerves .
Man appreciate your time hereon the.
Sailor Jerry podcast Stillnervous out May 31st.
Congrats on the new album.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Thank you.
Thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Super stoked.
You're playing shows with theHives in September.
You've got Reading and LeedsFestival in August.
Ohana Festival that's coming uptoo.
A lot of good stuff on tap forthe band.
So congrats on all your success, man.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Thank you, man.
I appreciate it.
Thanks so much, honestly.
We, as the band, reallyappreciate people like
yourselves taking the time totalk to us about it.
It's great.
Hell yeah, man.
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