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December 3, 2025 49 mins
How do you lead and manage change in the AI era? Leading change used to be hard. Leading change in the AI era is something else entirely. In this episode of The Shift Show, Rachel Bourne brings together three incredibly seasoned transformation leaders to break down what it really takes to help teams adapt, perform, and stay grounded when work is shifting faster than ever. Our Guests: • Hibba Ullah — A transformation and strategy leader with 15+ years guiding enterprise-wide change across healthcare, life sciences, and technology. Hibba brings deep expertise in governance, operating rhythms, and cross-functional alignment—turning complex portfolios into clear, actionable execution. • Alicia Miller — A strategy, analytics, and AI readiness expert who has led high-impact modernization, data, and behavioral science initiatives inside one of the largest and most complex federal organizations in the world. Alicia specializes in helping leaders use analytics and human behavior insights to drive real adoption and measurable results. • Rachel Quisenberry — A global change enablement and talent transformation executive with 20+ years bridging business operations and HR. Rachel is a trusted C-suite advisor who builds workforce systems that improve performance, compliance, forecasting accuracy, and operational outcomes across global enterprises. Together, we explore why most AI and digital transformations fail after launch, how to communicate change without creating fear, and what leaders must do differently as work becomes more dynamic and AI-driven. We also dive into the skills employees need to stay future-ready, what managers can do to reduce burnout during constant change, and the practical frameworks that actually help teams move forward with clarity and confidence. Whether you're leading AI implementation, managing transformation fatigue, or simply trying to build a team that can adapt quickly, this conversation gives you the tools and language to lead more effectively. Chapter Markers 00:00 — What does it really take to lead change today? 02:10 — Why are people burning out from constant change? 06:45 — How can managers help teams build “change muscle”? 10:30 — What makes AI-driven change harder to manage? 16:05 — Why do so many AI pilots fail after launch? 21:40 — How should leaders talk about AI without triggering fear? 24:50 — Are AI layoffs real or mostly strategy shifts? 30:20 — Which change frameworks actually help managers lead better? 35:00 — What do real-world change failures teach us? 40:00 — What skill matters most for leading through constant change? 44:00 — What do leaders misunderstand about how people adapt? 47:00 — What advice would our experts give every manager right now?
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