October 27, 2025 • 64 mins
With Ohio State on a bye week, it's a good time to assess their season thus far. How have the Buckeyes performed, and what concerns should be addressed?
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Anchors up sales it folk. Welcome to the Sloop cast.
How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Cast?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Do all right, Jared?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
How are you doing good?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Doing good, doing good, doing good. It's a new tradition.
It's a good tradition. We got that, Allan.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Let's sit here, Jared on a Sunday night. Thankful, thankful.
I'm here, thankful. I know Thanksgiving is a month away,
but I'm thankful for having a head coach, my coach
at Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Man, we weren't saying that ten months ago.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, ten months ago.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, you're saying the coaching carousel is vicious in the
air of our lower twenty twenty five. Yeah, I mean,
as we were recording this, the news is breaking that
lsu Is is letting go of Brian Kelly. Of course,
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you know, James Franklin and Billy Napier Gundy at Okay State,
which is a couple of years ever due. But whatever
chaos has gotten expensive this year, Kyle. This last weekend,
we'll talk more about this on Tuesday during Collegiate Chaos
that we'll get into the actual purpose of this show
(02:03):
here in a second. This has been this last weekend
was the first without like a real true chaos game.
And it's actually kind of weird that we've made it
all the way to the end of October without a
true chaos like without a weekend, without a true chaos game.
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This has been an incredibly chaotic year. You know, there's
a lot of people talking about, you know, has anil
brought parody? Has the transfer portal brought parody? There's a
lot of conversations about you know, And I would just
say everyone, I have theories on that too. I say,
pumped your brakes. This is one season. This also happened
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in two thousand and seven, and it just turned out
two thousand and seven was this anomaly of a super
kotic season. And I have and again we don't have
time to get into it on this episode, but I
have reasons why this year is totally an anomaly and
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it isn't going to be indicative of a longer trend
of parody in college football. And I also have these
arguments over here to explain why parody is now in
college football, which is a way to say that I
don't know. I have lots of theories and opinions. Ultimately,
I don't know. I think having a group of super
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seniors basically all at this point fall off the board
from twenty twenty, where you had a bunch of older
players who were maybe hampering the development of some younger players,
which may have created kind of an experienced drop off,
especially at the high in programs. Might be why we're
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seeing this this year and it's not necessarily going to repeat.
Then again, we could talk about how smaller program you know,
mid tier programs are better able to plug deficiencies now
because of the portal, because of NIL. And we could
also talk about how the SEC was basically paying players
for the past thirty years, but now everyone gets to
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pay players so parody like, there's lots of different theories
that contradict each other, and quite frankly, we just don't
know at this point other than to say that the
coaching carousel is a blood bath right now. That's that's
that's it, Kyle. Do you want to get into the
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report card? Yes? Please? Yeah, sorry, it was just coming
off of like bran Kelly getting fired right is where
he started recording it, just kind of top of mind.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Sure, all right, uh yeah, I'll have State on a
bye week here. So a's across the board right, yeah,
we can. We can go an end of the.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Episode here, we're gonna go We're going to go ahead
and uh do a since it's a little more than halfway,
that would be good opportunity to go ahead and do
a mid sisan mid.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Season report card here, season season report card. Yes, yeah,
seven seven to no number one cut in the country here.
Be easy for us just to go down the line
and be like a's across. I mean, what what what
morek in Ohio State do when they've putting up a
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lot of points number one in the country and and
a lot of the major defensive stats here, we're near
the top there too. So but I think we need
to look a little bit deeper than just saying, oh, yep,
defense a's across, offensive, offense a's across to Let's look
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deeper and see where we think of how it is
at compared to where we think they should be in
some issues that we think needs to be addressed as
the season uh moves along.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Okay, so first off, we have game plan. Let's repurpose
this a tad as there's obviously not a specific game
plan to talk about. We'll just talk about this as
like off field coaching during the season, or yeah, off
field coaching during the season. Just how is the coaching
staff doing, not necessarily in game, but during the week.
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Just how do we how do we feel about the
coaching staff right now? In general? I mean, and again
we're talking about the offense. We're talking about the offense.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Okay, honestly, like I think heartline is doing a pretty
good job overall, Uh, play calling is I can't really
complain about the play calling. I know that's uh, I
guess that's game plan to the plate, the play well
that the play calling has been really good.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Look.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Concerns on the running side of it, but we'll get
we'll get to that. But overall, I'm I'm honestly overall
pleased with what I've seen with with the offense here.
So I'm gonna say a minus. I'll say an A minus.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Okay, it's not real quick, Yeah, I think I'm I'm
comfortable with just an A. Just just just the overall
coaching performance so far this year. I think maybe at
a certain point we need to, you know, maybe discuss
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Tyler Bowen, who was of course brought in as the
offensive line coach, as well as the run game. Coordinator.
And you know, on one hand, I think, you know,
(08:08):
maybe I don't want to get ahead. I don't want
to get ahead of the report card, so maybe I'll
save that thought. But yeah, they passed block well, but yeah,
I mean exactly spikes, But I don't want to get
ahead of the report card. So I'm just gonna say
an a for right now. I think the offensive coaching
staff is doing a good job. I mean, you know,
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it has to be said that like Julian Saying showed
up day one ready to play, and that doesn't happen
by accident. And you can be like, well, you know,
super he's super talented and super this and super that.
But you know, we see super talented quarterbacks show up
on day one season sometimes season one and not look
all that great, not look all that season. Julian Saying
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is as a red shirt freshman who played no like
true game snaps, competitive game snaps last year, and yeah,
the first couple of games he had definitely some freshman moments,
but man, he already looked like a seasoned quarterback. And
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that doesn't happen by accident. That doesn't that's not pure talent.
That's coaching, you know, I think we could. There are
other conversations to be had as far as the development,
say of maybe either running backs or the offensive line.
But yeah, I'm gonna go with an A here, if
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for no other reason than just the offense looking like
they're showing up ready from day one, despite a lot
of talent loss from last year.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, and game end game coaching. I got to give
an A. I can't think of anything really disastrous, anything
bad to say about any kind of coaching changes that's
needing to be made in the middle of the game. Yeah,
So I say, I can't say much more about it.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, I do appreciate, and I know it frustrates a
lot of Ohio State fans that do appreciate Ryan Day's
strategy to slow the game down. And I know that,
Like we all want video game stats and we all
want to blow out teams fifty nine to nothing. I
get that. But when you look at how they I
will say, one, they did this last year, and last
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year turned out pretty well. Ohio State was much healthier
and much fresher looking down the stretch than most of
the other teams, and it showed during the playoffs. This
strategy of reducing plays of killing some clock. Staying fresh
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has worked, even if it, like I said, everyone wants
to everyone wants to blow out the other team. House stated,
but I will say I would really like to see
them finish off teams in the first half. More. We've
seen them take their foot off the pedal during the
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second quarter, which I just don't think is very smart.
Finish off drives in the red zone too, There's been
some there have been some red zone issues, So I
agree on that. I think we'll come down to. I
think again, let's not get ahead of the report card.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Ohio State time of possession is ranked eighteenth in the country. Yeah,
I'm just gonna point that out.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
By the way, just the point Urban Meyer brought Ryan
Day to Ohio State to incorporate tempo, and Ohio State
hasn't looked this slow since the Trestle era. Just saying
it's just it's just it's just funny. That's all quarterback
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quarterback again, can grading based off of expectation, the fact
that he's a red shirt freshman A plus A plus absolutely, yeah,
Julian saying looks like a gosh darn veteran.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Let me see, fourteenth in the country and interception thrown
like interception percentage is thrown only one point one percent
of all of his throws are intercepted. Very very good. Uh,
number one in the country in completion percentage number twelve
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and yards yards per pass And where was it here?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
And I said fourteenth in interceptions thrown too. Yeah, he
just takes care of the ball. And that yards Perpasse
is telling me it's not They're not just throwing is not.
Yea dink and dunk, That's that's the frad phrase. I
was looking for dink and dunking the the ball you see,
you see from time to time that he's throwing it
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deep and lighting his receivers make the catch. I mean, hell,
Tate just got just got a Randy Moss gloves just
saying you got most nice uh last week too? So
of that that amazing catch that he had over over Wisconsin, uh,
over a week ago?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah? And was that was that Randy Moss? I mean
was that I said Randy Moss? Was that Smith? Or
was that Tate?
Speaker 6 (13:41):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
That was Tate, Tate got Tate got that catch?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, did you say Tate? And did I
hear Smith? Okay, that's my bad.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
All right, run block, run blocking here number one.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
High State is number one in completion percentage with the
Redchard f Shman quarterback. And again to reiterate what Kyle said,
it's not because they're drinking and dunking. That's crazy. Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Rushing, all right, here's we're.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
We're run blocked for run block.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
This is where a state really needs to yeah, really
focus on here. Now. The good thing let me let
me just make sure I got my stats correct here.
I mean the good thing. Good thing is that Ohio State,
if I take out the three sacks here, Ohio State
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has only lost thirty seven yards that right, Yeah, thirty
seven yards and rushing like any rushing temps, any rushing attempts,
they've lost thirty seven yards, which is crazy crazy good.
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Negative yardage plays, yes, which is crazy good. Like bo
Jackson has rushed the ball about seventy times and it's
only lost nine yards of those seventy attempts, crazy crazy good.
But they're get they're getting hit right at the line though,
right and to me and to me, that's the big
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issue moving forward, because you got to be able to
establish to run and that's how I State wanted last
year being able to establish the run. You had two
veteran running backs don't have that luxury that they don't
have that luxury this year. But the but the rush
blocking needs to improve. In my mind, so I say,
with expectations from what I thought the offensive line could
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do this year, I'm gonna I'm gonna say more like
a B minus. I this needs this needs to improve.
It's it's getting the job done, but tough opponents are
coming up here. They've got to come up here before
we know it, so it's got to improve.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, I'll just say a BE without the minus. Personally,
I think that we do have to acknowledge that from
a running back talent standpoint, we've taken a big step
back from last year. You had two of the best
backs in the country on the team. Donaldson is just
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a guy people's isn't working out. Boy Jackson looks great,
but he's young. There's certainly already some wear and tear
issues on him, which happens when you're using a freshman
running back. It looks like, you know, during the Wisconsin game,
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it looks like we might be getting some more Isaiah West,
which is good. I think that's a great thing. We
want more Isaiah West.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
So.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I think the running back share responsibility here. That being said,
I think that there are some interior blocking issues I
would say at both of the guard positions. I know
Ohio State fans and even some media have basically picked
out a scapegoat on the offensive line and basically said,
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all of the blocking problems is this person's fault, which
is of course ridiculous, but in quite frankly, I think
Max Clair deserves criticism as well. I don't. I think
his run blocking is not up to the level that
we've expected from Ohio State tight ends who have in
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the past historically been primarily run blockers. So you know,
there there is a lot of blame I would say
to be spread out here. It isn't just exclusively on
the offensive line. And again, to go back to Tyler Bowen,
who was the offensive coordinator at Virginia Tech, takes a
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step backwards to you know, it takes a demotion to
come to Ohio State where he goes from offensive coordinator
down to run game coordinator. He's also the offensive line coach.
You need, you know, I'm not I'm not deep dove
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into the x's and o's to say that like maybe
the run game isn't being coached well enough or not.
I don't know. But like Chip Kelly, for as much
as chip Kelly was known as like a spread him
out sort of guy, he's a run game x's and
o's genius. Chip Kelly was and is so like losing
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chip Kelly as an offensive coordinator is gonna hurt the
like hardline and Day have the pass game unlock. That
was always going to be fine. We knew we were
going to take a step backwards in the run game.
Between the loss in two great running backs the loss
in Chip Kelly, you knew the running game was going
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to take a step back. But you know, I am
just hoping to see it get better as the season goes.
That's I think all I'm really trying to.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Say, number seventy four, seventy fourth in the country in
yards per rush just over four yards. Yeah, that's that's
got that's got to improve.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah, absolutely, And it starts with the slobs up front.
And again I think I would grade them more harshly
if not for all of the things I just said, Like,
I think there was very legitimate reason to expect the
running game and take a step backwards this year.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
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Speaker 1 (20:23):
That was a quick one, Kyle.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, pass block pass blocks where we were off on
the past, mentioned about, mentioned about how many times. Uh
it's not actually I didn't yet, but percentage of past
attempt or past attempts of where Julius stand has gone
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back to throw number three in the country, one point
six seven percent of of drop drop backs have been
sacked number three in the country A plus.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, I mean to to to give you scale on that.
The defense is number four in the country. They're getting
a sack on almost almost eleven percent of dropbacks, which
again is elite level number. Do you think Day wanted
Bow and focus on pass blocking this year to protect
say in I know, I think you brought in veterans.
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You have some veterans. You brought in veterans. I don't see.
I don't see where one would need to come at
a deficiency of the other. I think you can do both.
Did you did you put a plus on your pass blocking?
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I did? Yes? All right?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Running here, expectations here again. I I think the vision
is there with with bo Jackson, We've really seen it. CJ.
Donaldson is just he's a guy. He is, he has
what he is. I'm just here, just run it between
your tackles.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Really good short yardage guy. He's a really good get
you three or four maybe five yards guy. That's who
he is.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, but I am a little surprised about James people.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
So, yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I was expecting a load of people's mm hmmm. Yeah,
I just yeah, I was expecting a little bit more there,
having sharing the load with those those three. But the
limited time that we saw with Isaiah West, futures kind
of bright with with West, though again with the limited
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carries that we've seen with him so far.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
He did get competitive snaps against Wisconsin, he did, yes,
he I think that was either his second or third
game making an appearance. But in the other games it
was mop up duty. Wisconsin was second quarter live action snaps,
So that to me indicates that we're going to be
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seeing more of them, and I'm quite frankly looking forward
to that.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
So I'll I'll say B. I'll say B for my
for the running backs a little bit better than the
running blocking.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Mind's the same. I'm not I'm not sure, and I'm
not saying they can't be separated, because they can be.
I'm just not sure how I'm going to separate them
at this point.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
All Right, receivers and a like, the expectation still was
really high for me, sure for the wide receivers, well,
not just wide receivers, just receiving in general. Sure, expectation
was really high. And gosh, there's been very very little
outside of like what the first two passes to Jeremiah Smith.
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Outside of those, there's been like very few like like drops,
sure that I can really think of.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
There were a couple like early like against Texas, maybe
against like early like September drops, but they those have
gone away.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, Jeremiah Smith exceptional. Uh, Tate has really come along
these past couple of games. We knew Tate was gonna
have a monster year. These pastoral games just he just
lighting it up right now.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I think I had said something of you know, several
weeks ago where I think it was an asked sloop
cast question someone says, you know, what do you do
if the other teams are going to bracket Jeremiah Smith
all the time? Like, if Jeremiah Smith is just going
to get double covered and triple covered, what do you do?
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I go use Carnel Tate like you use Max Claire,
use use Ennis like you have all of these weapons.
If they want to throw this many defenders at one
wide receiver, you got other targets. Use them.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
And at a certain point, And I'm not saying that
that's some sort of genius revelation on my part. I'm
not trying to be like, oh I'm a genius. But
at a certain point, I think Heartline and Day started
doing that, which is why we've seen so many more
passes going to Carnell Tait over the past few weeks.
We have two numbers at wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Absolutely absolutely as someone else who's been doing well all
the receiving end, Bo Jackson, He's seen his good share
of receiving plays as well too.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
And as much as we have criticized Claire for his blocking.
He's been a incredibly reliable He had some September drops
like the other guys did, just like Jeremiah Smith did,
but outside of that, he's been a totally reliable, excellent
weapon underneath, which is huge for a true freshman quarterback
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to have that huge tight end, reliable target it. He
averages a first down every time he catches the ball.
He has twenty receptions on the year. Max Claire has
been great in the passing game.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
And I tell you what I know. I know not
not this year, but seeing the limited time of and
catches so far. But the future is bright for Quincy
Porter definitely that we've we've mentioned a number of times
in this podcast. But seeing him out there and ack
even even mileon Graham too, like he made that spectacular
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catch on the sideline recently as well. Future future is
still bright on the wide receiver side.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Drives and conversions, yep, let's see. Honestly, I remember possession
eighteenth in the country. I think you talk about drives.
I think that's important.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Being able to sustain those drives number seven and third
down conversions as well, over fifty percent of your third
down conversions are are.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Converted, so red zone scoring almost ninety percent. Fourth down
conversions are sixty exception and a half percent. Yeah, it's
except it's it's it's it's well above average. It's number
thirty five in the country. Yeah, they're I think they're
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doing a really good job controlling the ball, controlling the closet.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Hey, I'll say a as well, because I thought I
thought there's gonna be some some bumps on the road
here with a young team, with a young quarterback, young
running backs here, I thought there's gonna be some bumps
in road and hitting it with stride here. So yeah, hey, Kyle, I.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Are the whare we typically get our stats, which is
Team Rankings dot Com. By the way, give them a
shout out. They only have a red zone scoring percentage.
Would you know where to get a red zone touchdown percentage?
Really quick? Because that's kind of where I I'm kind
of between an A and an A plus, and that's why.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I would be really seven thirty seven attempts, okay, they've
been in the red zone thirty seven times. Thirty three
of them have been with scores okay, which which as
we already know, is eighty nine point sixty six percent,
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which is thirty fifth in the country. But what number
of those have been touchdowns?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Do you have that?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Twenty five?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
So I'm sorry, So that's twenty five out of how
many again thirty seven, so sixty seven and a half percent.
I really wish I knew had to scale that against
the rest of the country, but it sounds good.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Sure, about two thirds of the time, so two out
of every three times.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I don't know. I don't know how to scale that,
but I know it's I'm gonna go. Plus, you're anything
went through the red zone, you have a sixty six
essentially percent chance to get the touchdown. That feels good.
I don't know how to scale that, but that feels good.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Sure, you know, I'm gonna I'm just we'll go on.
We'll move on.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, we'll move on. Explosiveness.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Explosiveness.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
We've had plenty of explosiveness, I would say through the
passing game. Yes, as we said, Julian saying his insane
completion percentage is not a product of dinking and dunking.
He is well as the entire team is getting yards
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per pass eight point nine every time they throw the ball,
not complete the ball. Every time they throw the ball,
they are getting basically nine yards a play, which puts
them twelve in the country. Let's see receiving. Jeremiah Smith
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has an eighty seven yard touchdown, Cardinal Tate has a
forty nine yard touchdown. Max Claire has a thirty yard pass.
I don't think that one was a touchdown. Have they
been as explosive as they were last year? I would
say I would actually say o. Hio State was not
super explosive, especially in the passing game last year, until
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they got to the playoffs, where they seemed to open
things up a bit more. Yea, they have sort of
seemed to go back into ball control mode, which feels
like a deliberate choice. Mm hmm. I'm gonna go considering
the amount of wide receiver skill talent on this team,
they're gonna go like a B plus on the explosiveness. Okay,
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doing good. They're doing good, not not great, and they're
not breaking in for the Actually, you know what, the
run game is not giving us any sort of explosiveness
right now. I'm dropping it to like a B minus. Actually,
we're getting nothing from the run game from explosiveness standpoint.
Bo Jackson does have one really long run on the year.
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But that's really about it.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Mm hmm, yeah, I was. I was going to say, actually,
be minus is what I was thinking of to Jared.
Run games got got got got to improved there though,
real quick about the about the red zone touchdowns, I
was able to quickly pull up the next three team,
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three highest ranked teams here, Okay, behind Ohio State, Indiana
thirty three out of the forty four red zones thirty
three touchdowns, brings it seventy five percent. Alabama Alabama thirty
four attempts in the red zone, twenty six of them touchdowns,
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just over seventy five percent. Okay, and Texas A and
M thirty two attempts, twenty four of those touchdowns right
at seventy five percent, So they getting to do a
little bit better.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I'm getting ready to do I'm getting rid of that
plus on the drives and conversions. We're going back down
to it, all right, All.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Right, let's move to the defense here, Jared game plan A.
I mean actually eight plus, give me eight. Put that
plus on there, like number one and opponents points per game,
opponents yards per game, number one, opponents points per play,
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which I think is more important Number one, opponent's yards
per play number two, third down percentage number one, red
zone scoring number one, Like yeah, how much can you do?
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Like And in many ways you could be like, well,
some of the highest States offensive numbers are down because
they're shortening the games and because other teams are shortening
game against them. But as Kyle points out, he's given
you like per play, not per se, not per game,
per game. He's giving you per play numbers where o
highest State is still dominant, So the shortened games aren't
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really even coming into account there. Especially. You know, we
talked a lot. I mean I brought it up several times,
like State lost both of their court and High State
had the best I said it a few times during
the offseason. Ohio State had the best coordinator pair in
the country last year and it wasn't close and they
lost both of them, and the defense got better. The
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defense got better. That's all I'm saying, A plus.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
All right. In game coaching, I got forced this year too.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah we'll get there.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, in game coaching, I gotta say an A plus two,
like just absolutely stellar with just everything. The only the only,
the only negative I can really say about this defense
is that they're not is the turnovers are not are
not there, But that's not that's not to the really
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to the fault of the defense. But they yeah, exactly,
they don't. But they don't need them either.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
What the god, I'm going back, I'm going back on this.
Jim Trussell used to have a stat where he said,
did he say, like three three and outs are worth
a turnover or something like that. He had a calculation
where he would always where he would always say, like
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I think he said three three and outs are as
good as a turnover. I have no idea where he
got that or if it still rings true today or
or any of that stuff. But like, you know, you
look at again like they're just not on the field
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that much. They're really just not on the field that
much to be getting a lot of drivers.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know if he actually said
that or not, but I'm almost there and he did.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Sure, Okay, all right, tackling. I got to give an
a plus to tackling too. I know I've mentioned this
number of times on some of our spikes here.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Spikes brings up, sorry, spikes brings up a really good point,
especially when we are heavy ball control, other teams can't
afford to waste possessions. Yeah, if Ohio State is shortening
the game into seven or eight possessions per team per game,
and if you're getting three and outs on three of those,
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it's devastating. Yeah, it's blouses. It's exactly what it is.
That is blouses.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Tackling, tackling. I gotta say an a plus as well.
I mentioned a number of number of our gratings here, Jared,
I can't really, I can't really think of any games
where tackling was an issue. I know, I think of
last year's team, especially the first time that they played Oregon,
A lot of tackling issues there. But again, like Oregon
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was a very very good team, but that that was
that was a big conservative our State. It was tackling
in open space not so much. Not so much this year.
You get you got studs, absolute studs on the defensive
side here.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
There's not a flaw in the defense right now.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
No, absolutely no.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I and especially since they're kind of, with all due
respect to the elder styles, now that they're sort of
rotating in some of the younger corners a little bit more.
I I don't see a flaw in the defense. I
don't see a flaw in the defense.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
All right, run stop. Let's see. Ohio State is number
seven in the country in opponents yards per rush, in
number six in the country in yards per game at
eighty four yards. Right, I was saying, Ay, I'm not
going to get the plus there because there's definitely times
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where it's like, should be able to, should be able
to make a few more stops based on the opponents
that they've played to, but overall like very very stout
rush defense here.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
So a.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I don't know. Okay, in the in the two metrics
that matter the most, their top ten, that's an A
plus in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
That's fine. Yeah, that's fine. Pass rush here, we talked
about it feels like for years, every year we talked about, like,
where's this pass rush, where's the pass rush? We have
studs on the defensive end here, We're not getting to
the quarterback in time. We're not getting the sacks here,
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we are, Jared, we're getting the sacks right now, over
ten and a half percent of the rows, yeah, near
eleven are are being said, like you're getting sacks. Number
four in the country. That is absurd, absolutely absurd, ay
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plus ay.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Plus yeah, A plus. It's it's not a place, you know,
it's always a place where you hope to see improvement,
but not a place where I was necessarily expecting to
see it, I will say, And I love JTT. I
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don't know if he was like a true like pass
rusher pass rusher, but this year Ohio State's running like
four ends deep in guys who are like true pass rushers,
four or five ends deep in guys who are true
pass rushers. Yeah, A plus.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Mm hmm uh. Pass coverage, Yeah, I'd say it a plus.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Oh yeah, I just yeah, you just kind of I
just kind of mode through that.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
I I.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, I see what I did, accidently turned on past
cover pass rushers talk about past in past coverage.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, I gotta say, I gotta say an A plus two.
Let me let me find I'm trying to see if
I can find.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Uh. They are allowed every time a every time the
other team throws the ball, not completes the ball, throws
the ball, the other team gets about five point three yards,
which puts Ohio State fourth in the country.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Is that pretty good, Jared, that's pretty good?
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Fourth in the country. You know, out of one hundred
and thirty some teams against you know, I don't know.
I don't know who the other three teams are and
if they play similar competition or not. But yeah, that's
that's tremendous. It's just it's it's great yards per game.
They go up to number three in the country. They're
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only allowing one hundred and forty one passing yards per game.
And in case anyone's curious, these numbers do not include grambling.
These numbers would all be but of course that none
of the other FCS games count for the other teams either.
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But if you did include grambling, these numbers would be
even better.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, I'm just I was just trying to confirm here. Yeah,
I can't find it. I'll just move on impact impact
plays here.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Uh, the sacks have been big.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Sacks have been big. Not the third down conversions though.
I was that impact place.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
That's that's the category.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
I guess that's third down versions is the next category.
I mean, it kind of is an impact play if
you stop them on fourth down as well.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
To know, that's just that stops we literally you said,
when we stop them on fourth down. There's literally a
category called stops all right. Yeah, there's been us been
good good pass breakups, not a lot of turnovers, good sacks.
I don't know this our stat our stat provider doesn't
have like a specific rankings for TFLs, although I feel
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like they'd be doing really good in TFLs.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Yeah, seventeen pass breakups for Hot State. Surprisingly, State opponents
has had sixteen pass breakups for the year. It's a
little a little surprising to me. But either way, we're
talking about hot sits defense though impact plays up, I'll
say an A minus. I'll say an A minus.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
I would say based off of limited opportunity, I'm going
to keep it at A at an A. They're just
not on the field that much. Sure stops, all.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Right, stops. Yeah, Oh, State is number one in the country.
And third down percentage conversions twenty one percent of third
down conversions are completed by the opponents. Absolutely absurd. And
oh they're going to go fourth down there they're only
completing they're only converting forty two percent, which is twenty
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sixth in the country as well. Oh well, surely in
the red zone they'll be able to point. No, they're
they're struggling to get a single point in the red
zone as well. Fifty four percent. I'm gonn se if
we can try to pull this up real quick, fifty
four percent have been converted into points in the red zone.
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And yes, Jared, I do have how many touchdowns have
been have been.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Scored one red zone? Twotowns two? Oh, that's right, Illinois
got a junk timer both.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
By Illinois, Yes, two out of twelve. Only twelve attempts
chared twelve times all year, seven seven games so far
and only twelve trips to the red zone. I want
to emphasize that out that is crazy crazy good. A
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plus yeah, a plus six out of six out of
your seven games, your opponents doesn't get a touchdown in
the red zone and don't and don't don't break yeah,
prevenge break plays.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
I how many big plays? I mean, I feel like
Ohio State, it's been great. And then we won't have
any stats necessarily to back this up directly, I would say,
but I can letting that big plays have not been
a big issue for Ohiot.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
I can only think of like one like huge play.
It wasn't that like the first play in the second
half of Ohio got that long touchdown that's right. That's
that's the only one I can really think of. Yeah,
there's been a few plays like was it Illinois, there
was there's a couple of plays.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Where let's not forget the fake punt by Wisconsin devastates run.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Against it had a couple of long receptions like to
a tight end or or whatever too. But like in
terms of like they just let up a long touchdown,
like was that just one one? Maybe? Yeah? Yeah, it's
just like one. I can't really think of anything else here.
I mean, Jared, there's only been three touchdowns to go
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off of this year. Three touchdowns Tech Texas scored right
outside the right outside the Uh, I'm sorry, it's four touchdowns.
Texas had one outside of the red zone, Ohio had
that long one, and then Illinois had two in the
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red zone. That is it.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
I'm doing a plus yep, same here. All right, we
need the lightning round. We need to do a second
ad break and then we need a lightning round. Yes,
part of the board.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
We'll do a lightning round at break two. Again. The
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Speaker 1 (47:32):
Right, lightning around, all right. Overall, as a team, how
do you feel about the coaching just in general?
Speaker 3 (47:41):
I feel a plus overall.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Yeah, I'm gonna agree special teams though.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
We're getting there. We're getting there.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
That's overall coaching. We said, overall coaching. We can include
special teams coaching in that if you want to bringing
it down a bit, you just window standard a spikes.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Yeah, all right. Motivation and effort. I feel that's an
a plus as well for me too. There's no letdown like,
oh it's crambling State. Oh it was fifty five to
twenty one. We let up to some scores there. Nope.
They absolutely hammered that home. So how hammered that home?
Just every team hammering that home.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
But plus, I say, my only they pulled off the
defense really pulled their foot off against Illinois.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Late they did.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah, Other than that, I really don't question the team's
motivation or effort at any point this year. Overall execution,
just lack of sloppiness. I feel like there have been moments,
probably enough moments to stop me from giving them a plus.
But overall it's been fine. Yeah, in a season, in
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a season fraught with chaos O High State, it's been
very consistent. Yes, they're going to get an A A.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
A as well. Discipline pen Oh jeez, I see how
say it has been they've been fine. I say they're
they're they're fine. Uh, they don't commit that many penalties
a game, just under five a game. But but they
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but the penalties they do can but the penalties they
do get are pretty big ones, like they're averaging, which
is an interesting stature penalty yours per penalty yet eight
point seven, so they're they're converted. They're committing big ones.
So it was like, hold, it's our past interference ones.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Yeah. Now all of their all of their penalty stats
are good except for the penalties per penalty, which they're
seventy first in the country.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Yeah, so I think you're only you're committing under five.
I think that's really good. So I'll say I'll say
an A, I'll say a yeah, if a few personal
fouls there, Yeah, the interesting one here, I know. Don't
want to go too much into it though, Jared lightning
around the defensive side though, the defensive side when it
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comes to the penalties is well, not the defensive side,
just the opponents, the opponent's side. It's it's more than
it's more than just a trend. It's yeah, we know why. Yeah,
it's I really don't know what to say. It's mind
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boggling on how little penalties are called towards the opponents
of our state.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Opponents penalties per game is three point eight, which is
one hundred and thirty seconds in the country, which is
coming up on last. So Ohio State has penalties called
against their opponents very rarely. Statistically speaking, turnovers.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
In ain uh in a what what they had for
four turnovers? Four turnovers?
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah, they could be for more, but they're also protecting
the ball really well, so yeah, I'm not gonna give
them a plus. I don't know, I'd really be interested
to see like what and these the stat doesn't exist
as far as I'm aware, but really interested to see
how many turnovers Ohio state forces per play, but don't
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think that's that exists. So we're we're not gonna we're
not gonna try and get that. Uh, but they're just
not on the field. A lot of force turnovers, so
you know, you probably could go a plus there, but
I'm sick with an A. Sure did we skip over
special teams? That's my we did all right, special teams.
Speaker 7 (51:59):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
Punting's been unremarkable. Punt and kick coverage has been good. Yeah,
field goals have been acceptable but not great. We're no
longer kicked the ball out of bound on kickoffs, so
we got that going for us.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
I'll say, I'll say B. I'll say a B.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
I'll say a C plus. The punting is really like
sure subpar? Sure did you say like you say a
straight B?
Speaker 3 (52:37):
I did that? Said a straight B?
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Okay, we gotta see from the chat all right?
Speaker 3 (52:45):
And overall offense, I would say overall for the offense,
I was looking at the looking at the rankings I've
had here, it's kind of an A A minus. So
I'll just say I'll just say a let's say eight.
Running running needs to be improved, and really that's I
think that's the big thing. If the running improves, everything
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else improves there, run back, improve running, overall, improve explosive
if it would improve.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
So yeah, I feel like I feel like Ohiatate just
gets a little bit better on the interior of their
offensive line, this offense will become kind of unstoppable. Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (53:32):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
Defense a plus, I'll give the I'm going to give
the plus.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Yeah, rightfully, so it would. Yeah, I honestly I would
be mad at you if you didn't.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
All right, and overall as a team, you're seven to zero,
you're number one in the country, you have the best
defense in the country. You have a really good offense
that you're a lot of media talking about. They haven't
even hit third third gear yet. Maybe maybe maybe they
haven't yet, and they didn't really need to.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
As well.
Speaker 3 (54:04):
The offense is doing what they need to do and
again actually be better than what better than what I
think we all expected.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
And again I would say that there's a very deliberate
effort to not Ohio State. High State has realized something
that a lot of other teams have not realized yet,
which is that the dog and pony show of college
football is over. The style points, the go out there
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and win every game by thirty if you can, and
with massive blowouts, and you know, the style points of
it all, Yeah, it's not a thing anymore, especially if
you're a Ohio State. Maybe if you're in the American
Conference or maybe if you're in the Big Twelve or
the ACC, maybe style points still matter. But if you're
an SEC team or a Big ten team, if you
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win enough football games, you'll get into the playoffs period.
So there's no need to run up the score and
no need to to do all that shit anymore. And
again you also, you're Ohio State, you have brand cachet,
and you're the defending champions, like so it's it's also
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like a point of privilege that you can just go
out there and just win your games and you're gonna
be okay. But yeah, there's there's no need to do
what Indiana is doing as far as putting up all
these numbers and trying to prove something to everybody. A
plus like so, yeah, like, is Ohio State still in
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third gear? Sure? Cool?
Speaker 3 (55:45):
Yeah here a last year too, I'd say a plus
as well.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
Offense, offense is exceeding my expectations. The team overall is
exceeding my expectation. I would agree, because we've had here
like okay, okay, they maybe lose to Texas like we
we all we all projected our High State to.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
Have like we didn't like loss. We didn't expect Manning
to dirt about half of the ballsy through.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
Yes, yeah, like I say, it was going to lose
like one game this season, and it's really looking looking
like as we're sitting here, Jared going to go into
the Big Ten championship game undefeated.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Hey man, let's.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
That's what it looks like.
Speaker 6 (56:35):
I know.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
But Michigan, yep, we should have beat Michigan last year too,
So like let's let's let's not let's not count Michigan
as a w this year. Let's not do that.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
Yeah, all right, all right, that's it. That is our
mid season report.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
Card, all right? Overall satisfactory, satisfactory. Yes, yeah, I think
we're satisfied, which you know, for Ohio State fans is
saying something. Yeah, you're saying you're satisfied. It's an Ohio
State fan is not a given or an easy benchmark
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quite frankly. All right, Kyle, do you have anything in
Kyle's corner? You know?
Speaker 3 (57:30):
Every year for a while now, I forget for how
many years straight, But obviously a lot of people know
Lebron James, huge huge Ohio State fan, right, sure, and
every year for the last number of years now he's
he's gifted cleats like Lebron James branded cleats to Ohio
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State and he's doing it again for their battle against
Penn State this weekend. Have you have you seen this cleats, Jared?
Speaker 1 (58:03):
I have not.
Speaker 3 (58:04):
They are on fire. They are legit, like really really nice. Yeah,
I really it's really like how they look.
Speaker 1 (58:16):
Are they National Championship Edition? I take it since they
have the gold nikesh on them.
Speaker 3 (58:23):
Oh oh, that's that's a. That's a good point there, Jared,
that's a good point. Maybe maybe hold on, let me
let me put this up in the sure right doing that?
Speaker 7 (58:37):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (58:40):
I feel I feel, yeah, I feel really just heartache
about former former Buckeye. Yeah, that's a. It does definitely
looks gold there and in the cleat too. Look look
down the bottom ray of the cleat there, Jared.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
I'm seeing largely reflection on the cleat, But I see
what you're saying. Sure it looks gold.
Speaker 3 (59:04):
Yeah. One of Ohio State's own Nick Mangold loses his
battle to a kidney disease. Just yeah, absolutely just distraught,
only only forty one years old. It's just it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 1 (59:20):
Yeah, I shared this in the discord. I played center
in high school. If anyone's young, maybe doesn't remember, that's
the position Nick Mangold played. He was a center at
Ohio State while I was the center, while I was
playing center in high school. And that I don't know
when you're high school or that means something, and as
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an adult, that's something that sticks with you that you remember, Yeah,
this this sucks. And maybe I wish I was more
eloquent than this moment, but I think maybe just saying
this sucks also is and.
Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
It was just it sucks. It was just twelve days
ago he was asking he was asking out for any
kind of donors, and this is just twelve days ago.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
It's just yeah, I mean I'm sure, I'm sure he
didn't do that, and I mean, you know, hindsight, it's
now obvious. But but even when that announcement went out
two weeks ago, I was you know, you knew that
(01:00:30):
that wasn't something he did lightly. You knew that that
was desperation. That he would say that publicly, and I
believe he needed TYPEO, which is difficult. It's a difficult
(01:00:52):
blood type to get a donation on. So yeah, yeah,
it sucks. It just it sucks a whole lot it does. Yeah,
all right, Kyle, there's no good way to transition out
of that, unfortunately, so I think we'll just plow forward.
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Speaker 6 (01:04:31):
Know it's that about so yes, we all had a
good time.
Anchors up sales it folk. Welcome to the Sloop cast.
How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Cast?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Do all right, Jared?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
How are you doing good?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Doing good, doing good, doing good. It's a new tradition.
It's a good tradition. We got that, Allan.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Let's sit here, Jared on a Sunday night. Thankful, thankful.
I'm here, thankful. I know Thanksgiving is a month away,
but I'm thankful for having a head coach, my coach
at Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Man, we weren't saying that ten months ago.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, ten months ago.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, you're saying the coaching carousel is vicious in the
air of our lower twenty twenty five. Yeah, I mean,
as we were recording this, the news is breaking that
lsu Is is letting go of Brian Kelly. Of course,
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you know, James Franklin and Billy Napier Gundy at Okay State,
which is a couple of years ever due. But whatever
chaos has gotten expensive this year, Kyle. This last weekend,
we'll talk more about this on Tuesday during Collegiate Chaos
that we'll get into the actual purpose of this show
(02:03):
here in a second. This has been this last weekend
was the first without like a real true chaos game.
And it's actually kind of weird that we've made it
all the way to the end of October without a
true chaos like without a weekend, without a true chaos game.
(02:28):
This has been an incredibly chaotic year. You know, there's
a lot of people talking about, you know, has anil
brought parody? Has the transfer portal brought parody? There's a
lot of conversations about you know, And I would just
say everyone, I have theories on that too. I say,
pumped your brakes. This is one season. This also happened
(02:53):
in two thousand and seven, and it just turned out
two thousand and seven was this anomaly of a super
kotic season. And I have and again we don't have
time to get into it on this episode, but I
have reasons why this year is totally an anomaly and
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it isn't going to be indicative of a longer trend
of parody in college football. And I also have these
arguments over here to explain why parody is now in
college football, which is a way to say that I
don't know. I have lots of theories and opinions. Ultimately,
I don't know. I think having a group of super
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seniors basically all at this point fall off the board
from twenty twenty, where you had a bunch of older
players who were maybe hampering the development of some younger players,
which may have created kind of an experienced drop off,
especially at the high in programs. Might be why we're
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seeing this this year and it's not necessarily going to repeat.
Then again, we could talk about how smaller program you know,
mid tier programs are better able to plug deficiencies now
because of the portal, because of NIL. And we could
also talk about how the SEC was basically paying players
for the past thirty years, but now everyone gets to
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pay players so parody like, there's lots of different theories
that contradict each other, and quite frankly, we just don't
know at this point other than to say that the
coaching carousel is a blood bath right now. That's that's
that's it, Kyle. Do you want to get into the
(04:45):
report card? Yes? Please? Yeah, sorry, it was just coming
off of like bran Kelly getting fired right is where
he started recording it, just kind of top of mind.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Sure, all right, uh yeah, I'll have State on a
bye week here. So a's across the board right, yeah,
we can. We can go an end of the.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Episode here, we're gonna go We're going to go ahead
and uh do a since it's a little more than halfway,
that would be good opportunity to go ahead and do
a mid sisan mid.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Season report card here, season season report card. Yes, yeah,
seven seven to no number one cut in the country here.
Be easy for us just to go down the line
and be like a's across. I mean, what what what
morek in Ohio State do when they've putting up a
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lot of points number one in the country and and
a lot of the major defensive stats here, we're near
the top there too. So but I think we need
to look a little bit deeper than just saying, oh, yep,
defense a's across, offensive, offense a's across to Let's look
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deeper and see where we think of how it is
at compared to where we think they should be in
some issues that we think needs to be addressed as
the season uh moves along.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Okay, so first off, we have game plan. Let's repurpose
this a tad as there's obviously not a specific game
plan to talk about. We'll just talk about this as
like off field coaching during the season, or yeah, off
field coaching during the season. Just how is the coaching
staff doing, not necessarily in game, but during the week.
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Just how do we how do we feel about the
coaching staff right now? In general? I mean, and again
we're talking about the offense. We're talking about the offense.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Okay, honestly, like I think heartline is doing a pretty
good job overall, Uh, play calling is I can't really
complain about the play calling. I know that's uh, I
guess that's game plan to the plate, the play well
that the play calling has been really good.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Look.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Concerns on the running side of it, but we'll get
we'll get to that. But overall, I'm I'm honestly overall
pleased with what I've seen with with the offense here.
So I'm gonna say a minus. I'll say an A minus.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Okay, it's not real quick, Yeah, I think I'm I'm
comfortable with just an A. Just just just the overall
coaching performance so far this year. I think maybe at
a certain point we need to, you know, maybe discuss
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Tyler Bowen, who was of course brought in as the
offensive line coach, as well as the run game. Coordinator.
And you know, on one hand, I think, you know,
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maybe I don't want to get ahead. I don't want
to get ahead of the report card, so maybe I'll
save that thought. But yeah, they passed block well, but yeah,
I mean exactly spikes, But I don't want to get
ahead of the report card. So I'm just gonna say
an a for right now. I think the offensive coaching
staff is doing a good job. I mean, you know,
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it has to be said that like Julian Saying showed
up day one ready to play, and that doesn't happen
by accident. And you can be like, well, you know,
super he's super talented and super this and super that.
But you know, we see super talented quarterbacks show up
on day one season sometimes season one and not look
all that great, not look all that season. Julian Saying
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is as a red shirt freshman who played no like
true game snaps, competitive game snaps last year, and yeah,
the first couple of games he had definitely some freshman moments,
but man, he already looked like a seasoned quarterback. And
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that doesn't happen by accident. That doesn't that's not pure talent.
That's coaching, you know, I think we could. There are
other conversations to be had as far as the development,
say of maybe either running backs or the offensive line.
But yeah, I'm gonna go with an A here, if
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for no other reason than just the offense looking like
they're showing up ready from day one, despite a lot
of talent loss from last year.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, and game end game coaching. I got to give
an A. I can't think of anything really disastrous, anything
bad to say about any kind of coaching changes that's
needing to be made in the middle of the game. Yeah,
So I say, I can't say much more about it.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, I do appreciate, and I know it frustrates a
lot of Ohio State fans that do appreciate Ryan Day's
strategy to slow the game down. And I know that,
Like we all want video game stats and we all
want to blow out teams fifty nine to nothing. I
get that. But when you look at how they I
will say, one, they did this last year, and last
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year turned out pretty well. Ohio State was much healthier
and much fresher looking down the stretch than most of
the other teams, and it showed during the playoffs. This
strategy of reducing plays of killing some clock. Staying fresh
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has worked, even if it, like I said, everyone wants
to everyone wants to blow out the other team. House stated,
but I will say I would really like to see
them finish off teams in the first half. More. We've
seen them take their foot off the pedal during the
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second quarter, which I just don't think is very smart.
Finish off drives in the red zone too, There's been
some there have been some red zone issues, So I
agree on that. I think we'll come down to. I
think again, let's not get ahead of the report card.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Ohio State time of possession is ranked eighteenth in the country. Yeah,
I'm just gonna point that out.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
By the way, just the point Urban Meyer brought Ryan
Day to Ohio State to incorporate tempo, and Ohio State
hasn't looked this slow since the Trestle era. Just saying
it's just it's just it's just funny. That's all quarterback
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quarterback again, can grading based off of expectation, the fact
that he's a red shirt freshman A plus A plus absolutely, yeah,
Julian saying looks like a gosh darn veteran.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Let me see, fourteenth in the country and interception thrown
like interception percentage is thrown only one point one percent
of all of his throws are intercepted. Very very good. Uh,
number one in the country in completion percentage number twelve
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and yards yards per pass And where was it here?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
And I said fourteenth in interceptions thrown too. Yeah, he
just takes care of the ball. And that yards Perpasse
is telling me it's not They're not just throwing is not.
Yea dink and dunk, That's that's the frad phrase. I
was looking for dink and dunking the the ball you see,
you see from time to time that he's throwing it
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deep and lighting his receivers make the catch. I mean, hell,
Tate just got just got a Randy Moss gloves just
saying you got most nice uh last week too? So
of that that amazing catch that he had over over Wisconsin, uh,
over a week ago?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah? And was that was that Randy Moss? I mean
was that I said Randy Moss? Was that Smith? Or
was that Tate?
Speaker 6 (13:41):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
That was Tate, Tate got Tate got that catch?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, did you say Tate? And did I
hear Smith? Okay, that's my bad.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
All right, run block, run blocking here number one.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
High State is number one in completion percentage with the
Redchard f Shman quarterback. And again to reiterate what Kyle said,
it's not because they're drinking and dunking. That's crazy. Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Rushing, all right, here's we're.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
We're run blocked for run block.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
This is where a state really needs to yeah, really
focus on here. Now. The good thing let me let
me just make sure I got my stats correct here.
I mean the good thing. Good thing is that Ohio State,
if I take out the three sacks here, Ohio State
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has only lost thirty seven yards that right, Yeah, thirty
seven yards and rushing like any rushing temps, any rushing attempts,
they've lost thirty seven yards, which is crazy crazy good.
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Negative yardage plays, yes, which is crazy good. Like bo
Jackson has rushed the ball about seventy times and it's
only lost nine yards of those seventy attempts, crazy crazy good.
But they're get they're getting hit right at the line though,
right and to me and to me, that's the big
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issue moving forward, because you got to be able to
establish to run and that's how I State wanted last
year being able to establish the run. You had two
veteran running backs don't have that luxury that they don't
have that luxury this year. But the but the rush
blocking needs to improve. In my mind, so I say,
with expectations from what I thought the offensive line could
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do this year, I'm gonna I'm gonna say more like
a B minus. I this needs this needs to improve.
It's it's getting the job done, but tough opponents are
coming up here. They've got to come up here before
we know it, so it's got to improve.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, I'll just say a BE without the minus. Personally,
I think that we do have to acknowledge that from
a running back talent standpoint, we've taken a big step
back from last year. You had two of the best
backs in the country on the team. Donaldson is just
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a guy people's isn't working out. Boy Jackson looks great,
but he's young. There's certainly already some wear and tear
issues on him, which happens when you're using a freshman
running back. It looks like, you know, during the Wisconsin game,
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it looks like we might be getting some more Isaiah West,
which is good. I think that's a great thing. We
want more Isaiah West.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
So.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I think the running back share responsibility here. That being said,
I think that there are some interior blocking issues I
would say at both of the guard positions. I know
Ohio State fans and even some media have basically picked
out a scapegoat on the offensive line and basically said,
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all of the blocking problems is this person's fault, which
is of course ridiculous, but in quite frankly, I think
Max Clair deserves criticism as well. I don't. I think
his run blocking is not up to the level that
we've expected from Ohio State tight ends who have in
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the past historically been primarily run blockers. So you know,
there there is a lot of blame I would say
to be spread out here. It isn't just exclusively on
the offensive line. And again, to go back to Tyler Bowen,
who was the offensive coordinator at Virginia Tech, takes a
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step backwards to you know, it takes a demotion to
come to Ohio State where he goes from offensive coordinator
down to run game coordinator. He's also the offensive line coach.
You need, you know, I'm not I'm not deep dove
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into the x's and o's to say that like maybe
the run game isn't being coached well enough or not.
I don't know. But like Chip Kelly, for as much
as chip Kelly was known as like a spread him
out sort of guy, he's a run game x's and
o's genius. Chip Kelly was and is so like losing
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chip Kelly as an offensive coordinator is gonna hurt the
like hardline and Day have the pass game unlock. That
was always going to be fine. We knew we were
going to take a step backwards in the run game.
Between the loss in two great running backs the loss
in Chip Kelly, you knew the running game was going
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to take a step back. But you know, I am
just hoping to see it get better as the season goes.
That's I think all I'm really trying to.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Say, number seventy four, seventy fourth in the country in
yards per rush just over four yards. Yeah, that's that's
got that's got to improve.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah, absolutely, And it starts with the slobs up front.
And again I think I would grade them more harshly
if not for all of the things I just said, Like,
I think there was very legitimate reason to expect the
running game and take a step backwards this year.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
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Speaker 1 (20:23):
That was a quick one, Kyle.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, pass block pass blocks where we were off on
the past, mentioned about, mentioned about how many times. Uh
it's not actually I didn't yet, but percentage of past
attempt or past attempts of where Julius stand has gone
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back to throw number three in the country, one point
six seven percent of of drop drop backs have been
sacked number three in the country A plus.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, I mean to to to give you scale on that.
The defense is number four in the country. They're getting
a sack on almost almost eleven percent of dropbacks, which
again is elite level number. Do you think Day wanted
Bow and focus on pass blocking this year to protect
say in I know, I think you brought in veterans.
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You have some veterans. You brought in veterans. I don't see.
I don't see where one would need to come at
a deficiency of the other. I think you can do both.
Did you did you put a plus on your pass blocking?
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I did? Yes? All right?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Running here, expectations here again. I I think the vision
is there with with bo Jackson, We've really seen it. CJ.
Donaldson is just he's a guy. He is, he has
what he is. I'm just here, just run it between
your tackles.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Really good short yardage guy. He's a really good get
you three or four maybe five yards guy. That's who
he is.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, but I am a little surprised about James people.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
So, yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I was expecting a load of people's mm hmmm. Yeah,
I just yeah, I was expecting a little bit more there,
having sharing the load with those those three. But the
limited time that we saw with Isaiah West, futures kind
of bright with with West, though again with the limited
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carries that we've seen with him so far.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
He did get competitive snaps against Wisconsin, he did, yes,
he I think that was either his second or third
game making an appearance. But in the other games it
was mop up duty. Wisconsin was second quarter live action snaps,
So that to me indicates that we're going to be
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seeing more of them, and I'm quite frankly looking forward
to that.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
So I'll I'll say B. I'll say B for my
for the running backs a little bit better than the
running blocking.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Mind's the same. I'm not I'm not sure, and I'm
not saying they can't be separated, because they can be.
I'm just not sure how I'm going to separate them
at this point.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
All Right, receivers and a like, the expectation still was
really high for me, sure for the wide receivers, well,
not just wide receivers, just receiving in general. Sure, expectation
was really high. And gosh, there's been very very little
outside of like what the first two passes to Jeremiah Smith.
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Outside of those, there's been like very few like like drops,
sure that I can really think of.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
There were a couple like early like against Texas, maybe
against like early like September drops, but they those have
gone away.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, Jeremiah Smith exceptional. Uh, Tate has really come along
these past couple of games. We knew Tate was gonna
have a monster year. These pastoral games just he just
lighting it up right now.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I think I had said something of you know, several
weeks ago where I think it was an asked sloop
cast question someone says, you know, what do you do
if the other teams are going to bracket Jeremiah Smith
all the time? Like, if Jeremiah Smith is just going
to get double covered and triple covered, what do you do?
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I go use Carnel Tate like you use Max Claire,
use use Ennis like you have all of these weapons.
If they want to throw this many defenders at one
wide receiver, you got other targets. Use them.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
And at a certain point, And I'm not saying that
that's some sort of genius revelation on my part. I'm
not trying to be like, oh I'm a genius. But
at a certain point, I think Heartline and Day started
doing that, which is why we've seen so many more
passes going to Carnell Tait over the past few weeks.
We have two numbers at wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Absolutely absolutely as someone else who's been doing well all
the receiving end, Bo Jackson, He's seen his good share
of receiving plays as well too.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
And as much as we have criticized Claire for his blocking.
He's been a incredibly reliable He had some September drops
like the other guys did, just like Jeremiah Smith did,
but outside of that, he's been a totally reliable, excellent
weapon underneath, which is huge for a true freshman quarterback
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to have that huge tight end, reliable target it. He
averages a first down every time he catches the ball.
He has twenty receptions on the year. Max Claire has
been great in the passing game.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
And I tell you what I know. I know not
not this year, but seeing the limited time of and
catches so far. But the future is bright for Quincy
Porter definitely that we've we've mentioned a number of times
in this podcast. But seeing him out there and ack
even even mileon Graham too, like he made that spectacular
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catch on the sideline recently as well. Future future is
still bright on the wide receiver side.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Drives and conversions, yep, let's see. Honestly, I remember possession
eighteenth in the country. I think you talk about drives.
I think that's important.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Being able to sustain those drives number seven and third
down conversions as well, over fifty percent of your third
down conversions are are.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Converted, so red zone scoring almost ninety percent. Fourth down
conversions are sixty exception and a half percent. Yeah, it's
except it's it's it's it's well above average. It's number
thirty five in the country. Yeah, they're I think they're
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doing a really good job controlling the ball, controlling the closet.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Hey, I'll say a as well, because I thought I
thought there's gonna be some some bumps on the road
here with a young team, with a young quarterback, young
running backs here, I thought there's gonna be some bumps
in road and hitting it with stride here. So yeah, hey, Kyle, I.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Are the whare we typically get our stats, which is
Team Rankings dot Com. By the way, give them a
shout out. They only have a red zone scoring percentage.
Would you know where to get a red zone touchdown percentage?
Really quick? Because that's kind of where I I'm kind
of between an A and an A plus, and that's why.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I would be really seven thirty seven attempts, okay, they've
been in the red zone thirty seven times. Thirty three
of them have been with scores okay, which which as
we already know, is eighty nine point sixty six percent,
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which is thirty fifth in the country. But what number
of those have been touchdowns?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Do you have that?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Twenty five?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
So I'm sorry, So that's twenty five out of how
many again thirty seven, so sixty seven and a half percent.
I really wish I knew had to scale that against
the rest of the country, but it sounds good.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Sure, about two thirds of the time, so two out
of every three times.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I don't know. I don't know how to scale that,
but I know it's I'm gonna go. Plus, you're anything
went through the red zone, you have a sixty six
essentially percent chance to get the touchdown. That feels good.
I don't know how to scale that, but that feels good.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Sure, you know, I'm gonna I'm just we'll go on.
We'll move on.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, we'll move on. Explosiveness.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Explosiveness.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
We've had plenty of explosiveness, I would say through the
passing game. Yes, as we said, Julian saying his insane
completion percentage is not a product of dinking and dunking.
He is well as the entire team is getting yards
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per pass eight point nine every time they throw the ball,
not complete the ball. Every time they throw the ball,
they are getting basically nine yards a play, which puts
them twelve in the country. Let's see receiving. Jeremiah Smith
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has an eighty seven yard touchdown, Cardinal Tate has a
forty nine yard touchdown. Max Claire has a thirty yard pass.
I don't think that one was a touchdown. Have they
been as explosive as they were last year? I would
say I would actually say o. Hio State was not
super explosive, especially in the passing game last year, until
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they got to the playoffs, where they seemed to open
things up a bit more. Yea, they have sort of
seemed to go back into ball control mode, which feels
like a deliberate choice. Mm hmm. I'm gonna go considering
the amount of wide receiver skill talent on this team,
they're gonna go like a B plus on the explosiveness. Okay,
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doing good. They're doing good, not not great, and they're
not breaking in for the Actually, you know what, the
run game is not giving us any sort of explosiveness
right now. I'm dropping it to like a B minus. Actually,
we're getting nothing from the run game from explosiveness standpoint.
Bo Jackson does have one really long run on the year.
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But that's really about it.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Mm hmm, yeah, I was. I was going to say, actually,
be minus is what I was thinking of to Jared.
Run games got got got got to improved there though,
real quick about the about the red zone touchdowns, I
was able to quickly pull up the next three team,
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three highest ranked teams here, Okay, behind Ohio State, Indiana
thirty three out of the forty four red zones thirty
three touchdowns, brings it seventy five percent. Alabama Alabama thirty
four attempts in the red zone, twenty six of them touchdowns,
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just over seventy five percent. Okay, and Texas A and
M thirty two attempts, twenty four of those touchdowns right
at seventy five percent, So they getting to do a
little bit better.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I'm getting ready to do I'm getting rid of that
plus on the drives and conversions. We're going back down
to it, all right, All.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Right, let's move to the defense here, Jared game plan A.
I mean actually eight plus, give me eight. Put that
plus on there, like number one and opponents points per game,
opponents yards per game, number one, opponents points per play,
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which I think is more important Number one, opponent's yards
per play number two, third down percentage number one, red
zone scoring number one, Like yeah, how much can you do?
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Like And in many ways you could be like, well,
some of the highest States offensive numbers are down because
they're shortening the games and because other teams are shortening
game against them. But as Kyle points out, he's given
you like per play, not per se, not per game,
per game. He's giving you per play numbers where o
highest State is still dominant, So the shortened games aren't
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really even coming into account there. Especially. You know, we
talked a lot. I mean I brought it up several times,
like State lost both of their court and High State
had the best I said it a few times during
the offseason. Ohio State had the best coordinator pair in
the country last year and it wasn't close and they
lost both of them, and the defense got better. The
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defense got better. That's all I'm saying, A plus.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
All right. In game coaching, I got forced this year too.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah we'll get there.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, in game coaching, I gotta say an A plus two,
like just absolutely stellar with just everything. The only the only,
the only negative I can really say about this defense
is that they're not is the turnovers are not are
not there, But that's not that's not to the really
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to the fault of the defense. But they yeah, exactly,
they don't. But they don't need them either.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
What the god, I'm going back, I'm going back on this.
Jim Trussell used to have a stat where he said,
did he say, like three three and outs are worth
a turnover or something like that. He had a calculation
where he would always where he would always say, like
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I think he said three three and outs are as
good as a turnover. I have no idea where he
got that or if it still rings true today or
or any of that stuff. But like, you know, you
look at again like they're just not on the field
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that much. They're really just not on the field that
much to be getting a lot of drivers.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know if he actually said
that or not, but I'm almost there and he did.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Sure, Okay, all right, tackling. I got to give an
a plus to tackling too. I know I've mentioned this
number of times on some of our spikes here.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Spikes brings up, sorry, spikes brings up a really good point,
especially when we are heavy ball control, other teams can't
afford to waste possessions. Yeah, if Ohio State is shortening
the game into seven or eight possessions per team per game,
and if you're getting three and outs on three of those,
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it's devastating. Yeah, it's blouses. It's exactly what it is.
That is blouses.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Tackling, tackling. I gotta say an a plus as well.
I mentioned a number of number of our gratings here, Jared,
I can't really, I can't really think of any games
where tackling was an issue. I know, I think of
last year's team, especially the first time that they played Oregon,
A lot of tackling issues there. But again, like Oregon
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was a very very good team, but that that was
that was a big conservative our State. It was tackling
in open space not so much. Not so much this year.
You get you got studs, absolute studs on the defensive
side here.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
There's not a flaw in the defense right now.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
No, absolutely no.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I and especially since they're kind of, with all due
respect to the elder styles, now that they're sort of
rotating in some of the younger corners a little bit more.
I I don't see a flaw in the defense. I
don't see a flaw in the defense.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
All right, run stop. Let's see. Ohio State is number
seven in the country in opponents yards per rush, in
number six in the country in yards per game at
eighty four yards. Right, I was saying, Ay, I'm not
going to get the plus there because there's definitely times
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where it's like, should be able to, should be able
to make a few more stops based on the opponents
that they've played to, but overall like very very stout
rush defense here.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
So a.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I don't know. Okay, in the in the two metrics
that matter the most, their top ten, that's an A
plus in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
That's fine. Yeah, that's fine. Pass rush here, we talked
about it feels like for years, every year we talked about, like,
where's this pass rush, where's the pass rush? We have
studs on the defensive end here, We're not getting to
the quarterback in time. We're not getting the sacks here,
(39:02):
we are, Jared, we're getting the sacks right now, over
ten and a half percent of the rows, yeah, near
eleven are are being said, like you're getting sacks. Number
four in the country. That is absurd, absolutely absurd, ay
(39:24):
plus ay.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Plus yeah, A plus. It's it's not a place, you know,
it's always a place where you hope to see improvement,
but not a place where I was necessarily expecting to
see it, I will say, And I love JTT. I
(39:48):
don't know if he was like a true like pass
rusher pass rusher, but this year Ohio State's running like
four ends deep in guys who are like true pass rushers,
four or five ends deep in guys who are true
pass rushers. Yeah, A plus.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Mm hmm uh. Pass coverage, Yeah, I'd say it a plus.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Oh yeah, I just yeah, you just kind of I
just kind of mode through that.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
I I.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, I see what I did, accidently turned on past
cover pass rushers talk about past in past coverage.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, I gotta say, I gotta say an A plus two.
Let me let me find I'm trying to see if
I can find.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Uh. They are allowed every time a every time the
other team throws the ball, not completes the ball, throws
the ball, the other team gets about five point three yards,
which puts Ohio State fourth in the country.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Is that pretty good, Jared, that's pretty good?
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Fourth in the country. You know, out of one hundred
and thirty some teams against you know, I don't know.
I don't know who the other three teams are and
if they play similar competition or not. But yeah, that's
that's tremendous. It's just it's it's great yards per game.
They go up to number three in the country. They're
(41:30):
only allowing one hundred and forty one passing yards per game.
And in case anyone's curious, these numbers do not include grambling.
These numbers would all be but of course that none
of the other FCS games count for the other teams either.
(41:51):
But if you did include grambling, these numbers would be
even better.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, I'm just I was just trying to confirm here. Yeah,
I can't find it. I'll just move on impact impact
plays here.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Uh, the sacks have been big.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Sacks have been big. Not the third down conversions though.
I was that impact place.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
That's that's the category.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
I guess that's third down versions is the next category.
I mean, it kind of is an impact play if
you stop them on fourth down as well.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
To know, that's just that stops we literally you said,
when we stop them on fourth down. There's literally a
category called stops all right. Yeah, there's been us been
good good pass breakups, not a lot of turnovers, good sacks.
I don't know this our stat our stat provider doesn't
have like a specific rankings for TFLs, although I feel
(42:54):
like they'd be doing really good in TFLs.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Yeah, seventeen pass breakups for Hot State. Surprisingly, State opponents
has had sixteen pass breakups for the year. It's a
little a little surprising to me. But either way, we're
talking about hot sits defense though impact plays up, I'll
say an A minus. I'll say an A minus.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
I would say based off of limited opportunity, I'm going
to keep it at A at an A. They're just
not on the field that much. Sure stops, all.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Right, stops. Yeah, Oh, State is number one in the country.
And third down percentage conversions twenty one percent of third
down conversions are completed by the opponents. Absolutely absurd. And
oh they're going to go fourth down there they're only
completing they're only converting forty two percent, which is twenty
(43:55):
sixth in the country as well. Oh well, surely in
the red zone they'll be able to point. No, they're
they're struggling to get a single point in the red
zone as well. Fifty four percent. I'm gonn se if
we can try to pull this up real quick, fifty
four percent have been converted into points in the red zone.
(44:17):
And yes, Jared, I do have how many touchdowns have
been have been.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Scored one red zone? Twotowns two? Oh, that's right, Illinois
got a junk timer both.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
By Illinois, Yes, two out of twelve. Only twelve attempts
chared twelve times all year, seven seven games so far
and only twelve trips to the red zone. I want
to emphasize that out that is crazy crazy good. A
(44:55):
plus yeah, a plus six out of six out of
your seven games, your opponents doesn't get a touchdown in
the red zone and don't and don't don't break yeah,
prevenge break plays.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
I how many big plays? I mean, I feel like
Ohio State, it's been great. And then we won't have
any stats necessarily to back this up directly, I would say,
but I can letting that big plays have not been
a big issue for Ohiot.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
I can only think of like one like huge play.
It wasn't that like the first play in the second
half of Ohio got that long touchdown that's right. That's
that's the only one I can really think of. Yeah,
there's been a few plays like was it Illinois, there
was there's a couple of plays.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Where let's not forget the fake punt by Wisconsin devastates run.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Against it had a couple of long receptions like to
a tight end or or whatever too. But like in
terms of like they just let up a long touchdown,
like was that just one one? Maybe? Yeah? Yeah, it's
just like one. I can't really think of anything else here.
I mean, Jared, there's only been three touchdowns to go
(46:20):
off of this year. Three touchdowns Tech Texas scored right
outside the right outside the Uh, I'm sorry, it's four touchdowns.
Texas had one outside of the red zone, Ohio had
that long one, and then Illinois had two in the
(46:41):
red zone. That is it.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
I'm doing a plus yep, same here. All right, we
need the lightning round. We need to do a second
ad break and then we need a lightning round. Yes,
part of the board.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
We'll do a lightning round at break two. Again. The
swotcast dot com your go to link for anything and
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(47:17):
chat with Jared and I and the rest of the
Soupcats and the rest of the Buckeye fans, head on
over to discord dot the swootcast dot com. We'll take
that a break, Jared and be right back, all.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Right, lightning around, all right. Overall, as a team, how
do you feel about the coaching just in general?
Speaker 3 (47:41):
I feel a plus overall.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Yeah, I'm gonna agree special teams though.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
We're getting there. We're getting there.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
That's overall coaching. We said, overall coaching. We can include
special teams coaching in that if you want to bringing
it down a bit, you just window standard a spikes.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Yeah, all right. Motivation and effort. I feel that's an
a plus as well for me too. There's no letdown like,
oh it's crambling State. Oh it was fifty five to
twenty one. We let up to some scores there. Nope.
They absolutely hammered that home. So how hammered that home?
Just every team hammering that home.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
But plus, I say, my only they pulled off the
defense really pulled their foot off against Illinois.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Late they did.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah, Other than that, I really don't question the team's
motivation or effort at any point this year. Overall execution,
just lack of sloppiness. I feel like there have been moments,
probably enough moments to stop me from giving them a plus.
But overall it's been fine. Yeah, in a season, in
(48:55):
a season fraught with chaos O High State, it's been
very consistent. Yes, they're going to get an A A.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
A as well. Discipline pen Oh jeez, I see how
say it has been they've been fine. I say they're
they're they're fine. Uh, they don't commit that many penalties
a game, just under five a game. But but they
(49:26):
but the penalties they do can but the penalties they
do get are pretty big ones, like they're averaging, which
is an interesting stature penalty yours per penalty yet eight
point seven, so they're they're converted. They're committing big ones.
So it was like, hold, it's our past interference ones.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Yeah. Now all of their all of their penalty stats
are good except for the penalties per penalty, which they're
seventy first in the country.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Yeah, so I think you're only you're committing under five.
I think that's really good. So I'll say I'll say
an A, I'll say a yeah, if a few personal
fouls there, Yeah, the interesting one here, I know. Don't
want to go too much into it though, Jared lightning
around the defensive side though, the defensive side when it
(50:11):
comes to the penalties is well, not the defensive side,
just the opponents, the opponent's side. It's it's more than
it's more than just a trend. It's yeah, we know why. Yeah,
it's I really don't know what to say. It's mind
(50:33):
boggling on how little penalties are called towards the opponents
of our state.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Opponents penalties per game is three point eight, which is
one hundred and thirty seconds in the country, which is
coming up on last. So Ohio State has penalties called
against their opponents very rarely. Statistically speaking, turnovers.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
In ain uh in a what what they had for
four turnovers? Four turnovers?
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah, they could be for more, but they're also protecting
the ball really well, so yeah, I'm not gonna give
them a plus. I don't know, I'd really be interested
to see like what and these the stat doesn't exist
as far as I'm aware, but really interested to see
how many turnovers Ohio state forces per play, but don't
(51:33):
think that's that exists. So we're we're not gonna we're
not gonna try and get that. Uh, but they're just
not on the field. A lot of force turnovers, so
you know, you probably could go a plus there, but
I'm sick with an A. Sure did we skip over
special teams? That's my we did all right, special teams.
Speaker 7 (51:59):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
Punting's been unremarkable. Punt and kick coverage has been good. Yeah,
field goals have been acceptable but not great. We're no
longer kicked the ball out of bound on kickoffs, so
we got that going for us.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
I'll say, I'll say B. I'll say a B.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
I'll say a C plus. The punting is really like
sure subpar? Sure did you say like you say a
straight B?
Speaker 3 (52:37):
I did that? Said a straight B?
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Okay, we gotta see from the chat all right?
Speaker 3 (52:45):
And overall offense, I would say overall for the offense,
I was looking at the looking at the rankings I've
had here, it's kind of an A A minus. So
I'll just say I'll just say a let's say eight.
Running running needs to be improved, and really that's I
think that's the big thing. If the running improves, everything
(53:06):
else improves there, run back, improve running, overall, improve explosive
if it would improve.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
So yeah, I feel like I feel like Ohiatate just
gets a little bit better on the interior of their
offensive line, this offense will become kind of unstoppable. Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (53:32):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
Defense a plus, I'll give the I'm going to give
the plus.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Yeah, rightfully, so it would. Yeah, I honestly I would
be mad at you if you didn't.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
All right, and overall as a team, you're seven to zero,
you're number one in the country, you have the best
defense in the country. You have a really good offense
that you're a lot of media talking about. They haven't
even hit third third gear yet. Maybe maybe maybe they
haven't yet, and they didn't really need to.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
As well.
Speaker 3 (54:04):
The offense is doing what they need to do and
again actually be better than what better than what I
think we all expected.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
And again I would say that there's a very deliberate
effort to not Ohio State. High State has realized something
that a lot of other teams have not realized yet,
which is that the dog and pony show of college
football is over. The style points, the go out there
(54:34):
and win every game by thirty if you can, and
with massive blowouts, and you know, the style points of
it all, Yeah, it's not a thing anymore, especially if
you're a Ohio State. Maybe if you're in the American
Conference or maybe if you're in the Big Twelve or
the ACC, maybe style points still matter. But if you're
an SEC team or a Big ten team, if you
(54:57):
win enough football games, you'll get into the playoffs period.
So there's no need to run up the score and
no need to to do all that shit anymore. And
again you also, you're Ohio State, you have brand cachet,
and you're the defending champions, like so it's it's also
(55:19):
like a point of privilege that you can just go
out there and just win your games and you're gonna
be okay. But yeah, there's there's no need to do
what Indiana is doing as far as putting up all
these numbers and trying to prove something to everybody. A
plus like so, yeah, like, is Ohio State still in
(55:41):
third gear? Sure? Cool?
Speaker 3 (55:45):
Yeah here a last year too, I'd say a plus
as well.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
Offense, offense is exceeding my expectations. The team overall is
exceeding my expectation. I would agree, because we've had here
like okay, okay, they maybe lose to Texas like we
we all we all projected our High State to.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
Have like we didn't like loss. We didn't expect Manning
to dirt about half of the ballsy through.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
Yes, yeah, like I say, it was going to lose
like one game this season, and it's really looking looking
like as we're sitting here, Jared going to go into
the Big Ten championship game undefeated.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Hey man, let's.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
That's what it looks like.
Speaker 6 (56:35):
I know.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
But Michigan, yep, we should have beat Michigan last year too,
So like let's let's let's not let's not count Michigan
as a w this year. Let's not do that.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
Yeah, all right, all right, that's it. That is our
mid season report.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
Card, all right? Overall satisfactory, satisfactory. Yes, yeah, I think
we're satisfied, which you know, for Ohio State fans is
saying something. Yeah, you're saying you're satisfied. It's an Ohio
State fan is not a given or an easy benchmark
(57:19):
quite frankly. All right, Kyle, do you have anything in
Kyle's corner? You know?
Speaker 3 (57:30):
Every year for a while now, I forget for how
many years straight, But obviously a lot of people know
Lebron James, huge huge Ohio State fan, right, sure, and
every year for the last number of years now he's
he's gifted cleats like Lebron James branded cleats to Ohio
(57:55):
State and he's doing it again for their battle against
Penn State this weekend. Have you have you seen this cleats, Jared?
Speaker 1 (58:03):
I have not.
Speaker 3 (58:04):
They are on fire. They are legit, like really really nice. Yeah,
I really it's really like how they look.
Speaker 1 (58:16):
Are they National Championship Edition? I take it since they
have the gold nikesh on them.
Speaker 3 (58:23):
Oh oh, that's that's a. That's a good point there, Jared,
that's a good point. Maybe maybe hold on, let me
let me put this up in the sure right doing that?
Speaker 7 (58:37):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (58:40):
I feel I feel, yeah, I feel really just heartache
about former former Buckeye. Yeah, that's a. It does definitely
looks gold there and in the cleat too. Look look
down the bottom ray of the cleat there, Jared.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
I'm seeing largely reflection on the cleat, But I see
what you're saying. Sure it looks gold.
Speaker 3 (59:04):
Yeah. One of Ohio State's own Nick Mangold loses his
battle to a kidney disease. Just yeah, absolutely just distraught,
only only forty one years old. It's just it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 1 (59:20):
Yeah, I shared this in the discord. I played center
in high school. If anyone's young, maybe doesn't remember, that's
the position Nick Mangold played. He was a center at
Ohio State while I was the center, while I was
playing center in high school. And that I don't know
when you're high school or that means something, and as
(59:41):
an adult, that's something that sticks with you that you remember, Yeah,
this this sucks. And maybe I wish I was more
eloquent than this moment, but I think maybe just saying
this sucks also is and.
Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
It was just it sucks. It was just twelve days
ago he was asking he was asking out for any
kind of donors, and this is just twelve days ago.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
It's just yeah, I mean I'm sure, I'm sure he
didn't do that, and I mean, you know, hindsight, it's
now obvious. But but even when that announcement went out
two weeks ago, I was you know, you knew that
(01:00:30):
that wasn't something he did lightly. You knew that that
was desperation. That he would say that publicly, and I
believe he needed TYPEO, which is difficult. It's a difficult
(01:00:52):
blood type to get a donation on. So yeah, yeah,
it sucks. It just it sucks a whole lot it does. Yeah,
all right, Kyle, there's no good way to transition out
of that, unfortunately, so I think we'll just plow forward.
(01:01:21):
Tonight's ending music will be Courtney from Work, Columbus based band.
So with all that being said, I'd like to encourage
every to drinker could be to listen to your open music.
Speaker 8 (01:01:30):
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it's just courtant for more.
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Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Gas to space. So I've been not being run to itself.
You know, I'll see usually I know, I know, oh.
Speaker 6 (01:02:45):
Yeah, oh no, listen, she's got this bridge.
Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
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Speaker 7 (01:03:23):
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Old sacks eating, Yes, starting fad, but somehow took too
good to be enough.
Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Both you dream successfully, I get.
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Your rest, sat Suns the keys one way to get to.
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Speaker 7 (01:04:00):
New podcast spouts your days says.
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No it's that she's gone.
Speaker 7 (01:04:10):
All stout side, as sat Spouts says out, I
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Know it's that about so yes, we all had a
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