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Victoria Petrovsky (00:01):
Welcome to
the Startup of Human Potential.
We're your co-hosts.
Clifton Smith (00:05):
I'm Clifton.
Victoria Petrovsky (00:06):
And I'm
Victoria.
Clifton Smith (00:08):
And together we
are Faces of the Future.
Faces of the Future is aventure studio focused on
consciousness, identityexpansion and personal
well-being, and we are excitedto have you join us on our
episode on the Startup of HumanPotential podcast.
Victoria Petrovsky (00:27):
Yes.
So today we'll be talking aboutwhat is a vacation and what
you're actually vacating whenyou take a vacation.
So, to put that in context,clifton and I just spent all of
July in Hawaii and it'ssummertime and many people we
know are on vacations at thistime, so we just wanted to kind
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of talk about some of thedownloads and insights we
received while we were on thistrip with you all.
Clifton Smith (00:59):
Yes, and you know
there's been some articles and
books about the differencebetween wealthy individuals and
how they spend their vacationsversus those who can't seem to
get out of the rat race, andreally we're diving into the
societal programming from abigger perspective of the idea
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of vacation.
Victoria Petrovsky (01:22):
Yes.
So what we see a lot is manypeople completely change
identities or who they are whenthey go on vacation.
And if you think about it, allthat's really changing is their
location, and what travelliterally means is to go from
one place to another, typicallyover a distance of some length.
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And the history of vacations isthat they were created to give a
temporary reprieve to peoplewho were working 50 or 48 hours,
48 weeks out of the 52 weeks ayear.
You know the whole workforcesystem was created to create
this hoping and longing andwaiting for the next one, and
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what we see is a lot of peopledeferring their joy to that trip
and trying to pack everythingall into those two weeks that
you get a year and it leaves youfeeling really exhausted.
Many times we overindulge ineating, spending, staying up
late, partying, sleeping in,things like that, and many
people use it as a form ofdisguised escapism or glamorized
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escapism and to kind of escapewhat they're going through in
life if they're not fullyaligned with who they are and
not fully living their totallife of joy.
So almost creating like twodifferent identities of who you
are in your everyday life andthen who you are when you're on
this vacation.
Clifton Smith (02:44):
Yeah, think about
it.
I mean, look at what vacationsoffer.
They offer all you can eat, allyou can drink.
They really play off of yourgluttony debauchery, nightlife,
staying up late, drinking, goingon crazy wild adventures,
looking for that form ofphysical excitement.
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We're not necessarily sayingthat this is bad.
What we're saying is we'rebringing light to what it does
on a person's identity structureand how it creates a schism
within them.
You in your job versus you onvacation are two very different
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things.
Victoria Petrovsky (03:28):
Yeah, and
that was me for a very long time
, for many years, not fullyenjoying or aligned with what I
was doing and not feeling myfulfillment and purpose.
So I was just travelingwhenever I couldn't, exploring
different places, creating aform of excitement in that, and
you know there's a lot of peopleout there like that.
Clifton Smith (03:49):
Yeah, and really
what we're talking about is how
do you feel when you come backfrom meditation?
Most people a dread going backto work or getting back into the
old ways of thinking or oldways of being, and that's just a
clear example that you're notliving life in alignment with
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your total life of joy.
Victoria Petrovsky (04:12):
Yeah, Same
thing goes for weekends.
How do you feel on Monday whenyou come back?
Like that song goes everybody'sworking for the weekend.
So weekends also were createdto give respite to people.
During the work week they'reworking for somebody else.
They're not really focusing onthemselves, not really taking
care of their own needs.
So the weekend is kind of likewhen we see that whole other
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side of someone else'spersonality totally come out.
Clifton Smith (04:38):
Yeah, we've
glorified it with the weekend
warrior type and I certainly wasthat and we'd sit at a job for
Monday through Friday and thenSaturday and Sunday I would go
play fly football, go do ToughMudders, things like that, and
just destroy my body because Iwasn't getting that physical
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exercise and outdoor exposure inmy corporate job.
And so all we're pointing outis the disharmony inside
people's lives and in theiridentity With these ideas and
concepts of vacation andweekends.
Victoria Petrovsky (05:17):
You know a
lot of these concepts create a
lot of dissonance in theiridentity.
Like you're saying, they createthat schism and it widens that
gap between who you are and whoyou prefer to be and how you
prefer to live, whether it's thework week versus the weekend,
or whether it's your everydaylife versus going on a vacation.
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You're shifting into that oldway of being many times when you
come back and then you havethose post-vacation blues.
Clifton Smith (05:48):
Same thing, as
you have the Monday blues, and
while there's good utility toideas of vacation and weekends,
what we're articulating is ifyou are really living your total
life of joy, what would youwant to vacate from?
Victoria Petrovsky (06:05):
What would
you want to change?
Where are you escaping from ifyou're living and doing what
brings you joy every single day,like?
Why would it be such an extreme, like such a difference?
You know?
Clifton Smith (06:17):
Yeah, maybe you
want to take a break from
working hard, or what we call itis intentionally shifting focus
to another category of yourlife.
You know, maybe you want tocultivate a feeling good state
and rejuvenate yourself.
Well, you can do thatthroughout the day.
You can create your morningroutine, your evening routine or
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even a mid-afternoon meditation.
Victoria Petrovsky (06:43):
Yeah, and
we'll get into some more
solutions and things that wethink are really conducive forms
of you know, kind of channelingthat I want that rejuvenation
time and you know, like,something else that we see is
many people vacate thoseroutines and conducive behaviors
that keep them centered andgrounded and motivated.
Maybe they have those routinesnormally, but then when you go
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somewhere else, you travel orchange your location, people
actually vacate a lot of thosepractices and tools that have
been working for them.
Clifton Smith (07:15):
Yeah, you spend
such a long amount of time
building those habits and thenall of a sudden the vacation
comes and it goes out the window.
Victoria Petrovsky (07:24):
Mm-hmm.
Clifton Smith (07:25):
You know that
just creates more dissonance and
disharmony and that canactually slow down your
manifestation potential of whatyou're building or creating if
you go on a vacation or aretreat.
Victoria Petrovsky (07:37):
Yeah, if
you're not giving all the
categories of life, you'refocusing on some airtime while
you're away.
It's like taking your foot offthe gas and eventually the car
comes to a stop.
You know if you're not goingdownhill.
Clifton Smith (07:50):
So keep going
with those morning routines.
You know you built those habitsfor a reason, and just because
you're in a beautiful new placeor going somewhere else doesn't
mean that we should stop them.
Victoria Petrovsky (08:04):
Yeah, many
people stop.
You know, as soon as they getresults.
They stop doing what's workingfor them, and a vacation is
oftentimes an excuse people useto stop those things.
Clifton Smith (08:15):
And I get it.
It can be hard to do certainroutines in the morning.
You have your setup, you havethe way you function.
That's almost subconscious atthis point and you're in a new
space.
So it can actually be anopportunity to get you to that
next level of integrity to yourmorning routines, to be able to
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do them anywhere you are.
Victoria Petrovsky (08:38):
Mm-hmm, what
about retreats Clifton?
Clifton Smith (08:42):
Yeah, I mean
retreats are a good step in the
right direction, especially forhigh performers, because you're
infusing greater consciousnessin sort of this vacation idea
because you're going to work onsomething.
But really, if you look at theetymology of retreat, it really
means to withdraw or pull back.
Victoria Petrovsky (09:04):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, it really reinforces thisidea of not treating yourself
well and not nourishing yourselfor investing in your own
self-love, denying yourself ofyour own joy the rest of the
time when you're not on theretreat, right?
Like, why do you need a retreatif you're treating yourself
well, right?
Clifton Smith (09:21):
Throughout your
day to day.
Victoria Petrovsky (09:23):
Yeah, so
many times like what you're
seeking out in the retreat isreally just a correction of that
malnourishment that you'refeeling the rest of the time.
It's like an overcorrection,the pendulum swinging too far in
the other direction.
When you're not taking care ofyour body and your needs, you go
on like a 10-day vipassana orsomething and then you get
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really into yourself, reallywithdrawn.
Clifton Smith (09:47):
Which then you
have to come back to your
reality and reintegrate, andreintegrate the way shape or
form.
Victoria Petrovsky (09:52):
Yeah, or
burning man, post-burning man,
decompression, reintegrationback into everyday life in
society, right?
So what are?
You mentioned a few solutionsearlier, clifton.
We were talking aboutcultivating a feel-good state in
your morning routine that kindof sets the energetic tone for
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the day, or doing amid-afternoon kind of reset
meditation.
That's kind of like amini-vacation for the brain
before you come back to your day.
Clifton Smith (10:21):
What else Well,
it's about finding a balance
right, and whatever's going onin your life, like if something
out of the left field comes inand you really need to reset
there's the saying recover asintensely as you were and so
find something that matches that, and if something does happen
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in your life where you do needto go on that 10-day vipassana,
that's awesome.
What we're saying, though, ishow can you create more balance
in your day-to-day life than thethings that you can control?
Victoria Petrovsky (10:56):
And that's
where take a conscious breath
several times a day.
That creates a reset.
You can take a bath and dosomething that's rejuvenating or
recharging, and do more of thethings that you enjoy, not like
the sugary form of joy that'sreally artificial and can give
you cavities.
Do the things that really lightyour heart up, and my favorite
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is live where you would go onvacation.
Clifton Smith (11:26):
How can you do
that?
Victoria Petrovsky (11:29):
But well,
with the pandemic it kind of
created a big societal shift inmore people working from home,
people moving away from cities,and that was a big shift that I
made during that time period.
I always wanted to move toCalifornia and be surrounded by
nature and kind of get away fromthe hustle and bustle of the
city and yeah.
Clifton Smith (11:52):
Why did you want
to get away from the hustle and
bustle of the city?
Victoria Petrovsky (11:56):
Because I
wanted a vacation all the time
that I was living there, andthen, if you live in the space
where you would go on vacation,it's just more aligned with what
I envisioned for my lifestyle.
Clifton Smith (12:09):
Oh, so your
beingness no longer resonated
with being in a fast-paced cityenvironment.
Victoria Petrovsky (12:15):
No, exactly.
Clifton Smith (12:17):
So, instead of
seeking an escape through a
vacation, you're seeking aharmonization with your being by
living in a more relaxedretreat area.
Victoria Petrovsky (12:26):
Yeah, kind
of going at a different pace.
That felt more natural.
Clifton Smith (12:31):
Nice, and if you
have a beingness-based business
that's a natural byproduct thatwe help quantum-panoers birth
you can have some extracreativity in terms of where you
live and how you can actuallyturn what would previously be a
vacation into a businessbuilding or revenue-generating
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activity, such as you can hostpeople for a program, you can
create a mastermind where, onceor twice a year, you go to one
of these beautiful places, youcan create new contents while
you're there and you're inspired, you can create a course while
you're there, or you can evenfind a unique product that you
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love and you can sell it online.
So there's so much opportunityto create and generate wealth
for you in this idea of what youwant when a lot of people think
of a vacation.
Victoria Petrovsky (13:30):
And what do
you think people really want
when they're wanting a retreat?
What would be better instead?
Clifton Smith (13:38):
Well, I would say
it all comes back down to
self-love.
So infusion of self-love andunique experiences.
Victoria Petrovsky (13:47):
Yeah, like
finding you know if you need
support with that atransformational program that
helps you intentionally shiftyour identity, not just creating
a spa-like experience.
Clifton Smith (13:58):
Well, yeah, the
idea is that you know people
seek retreats and vacations toget something and you don't have
to go somewhere to get thatbecause ultimately you'll have
to come back to integratewhatever it is that you get and
your habits that you develop onthose retreats, or your
lifestyle on the vacationusually isn't sustainable and
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has challenges to integrate intoyour day-to-day.
So the goal is to findsomething that actually works
with your day-to-day life thatwill get you there.
Victoria Petrovsky (14:30):
Yeah,
absolutely.
Clifton Smith (14:33):
And so that's
really what we help high
performers with our program isto step into that total life of
joy as you're living life,integrating it in real time.
Victoria Petrovsky (14:46):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, we have a week-longimmersive, which is virtual, or
in person if you're in the LAarea called the Activator
Program.
So it helps you really get intothat elevated, expansive state
that many people often seek outvacations and retreats for and
hone in on what their heart isactually communicating to them
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and following the pulse of whattheir total life of joy actually
looks like.
And it activates and unlocksthe next layer of your potential
and your personal growth andyou know that transformation
from being a high performer intoa quantumpreneur.
Clifton Smith (15:24):
Yes, it infuses
and streamlines the process of
upgrading yourself with theintegration into your day-to-day
so that way you can optimizeyour performance in real time.
Victoria Petrovsky (15:37):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, and if you want more infoabout that, you can find us at
FacesoftheSutureio and InstagramFOTFio.
Clifton Smith (15:48):
Thanks for
joining.