February 18, 2024 • 23 mins
When Mortimer's relationship hit a stormy patch, "Lightning" struck, transforming personal turmoil into a chart-topping hit. It's a glimpse into the soulful artistry of our guest, the Jamaican reggae sensation Mortimer, who joins us to unravel the layers of his music and its profound connection to life's ebbs and flows.
Our conversation peels back the curtain on his writing process, revealing how raw emotion can lead to lyrical brilliance, and provides a window into the world of high-stakes music production. Gearing up for a tour across Europe, we discuss his latest single "Slowly," a track that promises to be a great addition to Mortimer’s catalog as he prepares for his debut album.
Mortimer's rich tone and lyrical transparency reggae make the stories behind the sound relatable, yet poetic. As he balances art and business, he shares that navigating the industry's tides isn't for the faint of heart, but Mortimer does it with a sense of purpose and resilience. We chat about the importance of having a crew that's in harmony with your vision, the power of music to spark change, to the nuanced dance with social media - balancing exposure with authenticity. Tune in for an enriching session that celebrates the heartbeat of a genre and the artist who keeps it pulsing.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of
the Style and Vibes podcast withyours truly Makayla.
If you are new here, welcome tothe family.
If you are returning, welcomeback family.
Today I have a very specialmusical guest.
I love his voice.
It is one of my favorite voicesthat have come out of Jamaica
in the last 10 years.
(00:25):
If you don't know that now youwill know and make sure you go
and stream his music.
But it is Jamaican reggaeartist known as Mortimer.
How are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I am fine, thank you.
Thanks for having me on yourshow, thanks for the love and
support Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So I discovered your music.
I discovered Lightning first,and then I came and kind of
listened to the EP.
But I know you recently droppeda single and you are getting
ready to go on tour and releasean album.
Please tell me about thatprocess and when we can expect
it.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
We have been working on it for the past since, like
before the pandemic Through thepandemic After that.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So tell me about the single slowly.
Like well, I don't really thinkwe really talked about
Lightning, which is one of myfavorites from you, so let's
talk about that one first.
How did that song come about,and is that the one people kind
of really know you for, or is?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
it.
Yeah yeah, that was a lot of youknow, a lot of vibe, some great
things, but that song didn'teven come from like the most
lovely witty place ever.
You know, the Dorado kind ofvibe where, you know, we were at
each other's throat and it waslike feeling like, you know, one
(01:49):
of those times when you sayyou're done, you're not going to
do this anymore.
You know, I feel like I'm a bitof communicator to my pen.
You know, it was more likewriting a letter, more than just
like a song.
I don't know if I can put intowords face the truth Exactly,
but this is all through this.
Yeah, and at the time I didn'teven know that you would have
(02:10):
been such a song.
You know I'm more peoplegravitate to that way and the
first time I made it I hear itshe didn't even like it.
Like she didn't even like it,so that's how my first she's
like okay.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
We're so unimpressed, all right.
Wow, okay, well, I mean, well,the people that are excited to
hear it when it and what one of,I think, because it is a
vulnerable drug.
It's not, like you said, it'snot super lovey-dovey, but it's.
It's a tender moment of sharing, like you know, relationship
(02:53):
woes.
But I think also my favorite,one of my favorite parts of that
particular song is, I thinkit's right after the bridge
where the sound goes from onespeaker to the other and it kind
of like transitions and I wasjust like I've never heard this
done before, like ever, and it'ssuch a.
(03:14):
It was such a nice tender momentto end the song and I think, as
, as as Jamaican artists, we, we, like me, my artist, um means
that the artist but not go pastthe second verse, right, it was
(03:38):
one of those songs where youhave to finish because it just
continues to build right upuntil the end.
So I think the, the productionof it, that's a song in my mind.
You cannot not play the wholething and you perform it and you
and the production of it.
You have to play it rightthrough, from beginning to end,
(03:58):
because there are moments inbetween the song that you can't
just like mix it, I mean you can, but to get the full essence of
the song, you have to play itfrom beginning to end.
The idea was that because thatwas, I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I don't even remember , to be honest, but possibly
winter.
But what we did was like panthe vocals, like a vocal panning
in the mixing stage, where youwould put some vocals to the
rice or some to the la bica andit like it goes no-transcript.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yes, and if you're listening to it out loud you
have to listen like closely tohear it, but when you have in
your headphones and you hear itit just very, very poignant Big
up winter, big up winter.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely I'm super to the
unknown.
Superman is our engineer andhas been respected him.
I'm my most comfortable withall of this.
His name is from Japan, but youknow he loves Jamaica, and for
(05:07):
years.
No, I would work with him Bigup to school.
Originally we used to work witha virtual box.
He's the engineer first.
Then it became super, you know,just by natural transition.
You know, big up to the board,to them as well, and to Tandra
(05:28):
she's a female engineer with.
So we're for big up the peoplewho, behind all the mechanics
it's not just me or it's notjust sound Take a whole team and
I've been for the whole five towork.
I'd love to take us for beingon me.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Big up the team and the inspiration because you know
, you know, I definitely know itdefinitely takes a team and and
the the admiration that youhave for the people that work
for you is also very telling ofyou as an artist.
So I really want you to tell meabout you know you're about to
go on tour in Europe.
(06:10):
Is this going to be your firsttime in Europe, specifically?
No, it's going to be my third.
Okay, okay.
So, you mean you're you reachover Europe, but you're not
reaching it yet.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That's what you're telling me.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Oh no, you have to switch that up, man, all right.
So tell me about, about goingabout to go on tour and release
a new project.
So let me know what.
Do you have a release date?
Is it going to be while you'reon tour or when you're, when you
come back?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
We're going to drop another single.
We just drop slowly.
You had asked about slowly.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yes, yes, I think slowly kind of gives me a
lightning vibe, but a little bitdifferent.
So tell me about slowly thething.
And you did an animation videoversus like a a what, what, what
, what, what?
Why was that?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Um, I just, I felt like I could get expressed a lot
more through the animationvideo, like project consider an
algorithm kind of thing.
I want you to be your magicalexperience.
You know so, yeah, it was morelike that.
And you know, over the years,because so much food has been
put on so much weight sincelightning, you know what I mean
(07:28):
and I felt like, should I use it?
If I can't make it super sexy,then I'm just not going to do it
.
You know what I mean.
Like yeah, and I don't feellike I am.
Please, you are least sexy,ready for a song like that.
I just, I just can't let youstay for the chorus.
(07:49):
Hopefully, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Get serious about working out and telling Tikka no
to some of the plates sometime.
And you know some of the mealsand I've got the discipline
going, then you know, perhaps,maybe I will do a one.
You know, oil down video Maybe.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
You know she can hear this again on time.
No, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
She can hear the interview again on time, you
know.
So you don't have a date yetfor the release.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
For the release of the album.
Yeah Well, we we're looking atMay.
There's no date date yet.
You know what I mean, Becauseyou don't know how these things
go.
Sometimes you're planning tofinish by next week, but maybe
there's a mix that you had torevise and send back and then
get another one, and then youknow there's a bunch of things
to consider why we haven't yetcome to a date.
(08:46):
So I feel like as soon as we'refinished with all the mixes,
all the masters properly, thenwe can say, all right, then
we're going to release on the12th of this month, or you know
what I mean, Whatever.
But we do have another singlecoming out while I'm on tour in
a in probably like a couple ofweeks.
You know what I mean.
(09:07):
I'm about to shoot the videofor it this week coming.
As a matter of fact, you knowwhat I mean.
That one is called Not a DayGoes by.
That's off the album as well.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
So what are you most excited for when people hear
this full length album?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
from you.
What am I most excited for?
When people hear the album.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, what are you looking forward to?
For people to hearing somethinglike from you?
New on this.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
Inspiring, you know, atogetherness.
You know, some company for thelonely sense of relatability.
You know sharing some love, youknow.
So I'm most excited aboutpeople feeling the emotions that
(10:02):
I put into the project in thefirst place.
You know what I mean.
I'm definitely looking forwardto that.
This album is very moody.
You see me One of the moremoody sides of things, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And we touched upon coming to the States.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
but I'm actually pretty serious have you
considered coming stateside tokind of, yeah, I would love to
as a matter of fact, you know,and we have gotten like quite a
few invites to the States andthings, but just the economics
of it all sometimes like to goand do like two shows here and
(10:43):
then like two shows over thereand two shows over there.
You know what I mean.
So it's we're kind of trying tolook at setting up like a whole
run, you know I mean, where itjust makes a little bit more
sense economically.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, the logistics gotta work.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, but I definitely would like to, you
know, come that side.
It's a great dream of anyartist, you know, I mean the
great yourself, definitely, toget your music heard.
That side is difficult, butit's one of the things that we
aspire to, you know.
I mean to break in through inall parts of the world, you know
(11:22):
in the US, the UK, Asia,everywhere.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Africa.
Africa, everywhere, everywhereon this earth, if we can be in
every, at every doorstep, on, inevery heart, you know then
thanks as an artist, what havebeen like some of the challenges
you would say in terms ofthere's, the art of making music
and the business what?
What do you think has been themost challenging for you as an
(11:51):
artist over the years?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I think most challenging thing for me has
been aligning myself with peopleI can trust, people who are
also in alignment with where myheadspace is at and my vision
for the music that I'd like tobe heard and the way I'd like my
music to sound, you know.
(12:14):
But I feel like I feel likeI've managed to surround myself
with a really great team.
No, you know what I mean Wintermusically, he gets me musically
and I get him musically.
We work on a lot of the stufftogether.
That's a blessing in and ofitself.
So that was one of thechallenges, because before I was
(12:37):
like, you know, when you'reworking with people or whatever,
it's just not quite the fit.
You know people send you stuffand it's just like, yeah, but I
don't think there's ever a timewhen winter sent me something,
when I'm like you know, I meanlike we just get each other
musically.
So that's one of the thingsI've managed to overcome over
the years and be able tosurround myself with people who
(13:00):
I can trust with my career, youknow I mean and my vision and
yeah, we've been just going atit together and it's been a
joyous ride so far.
Yes, we both have some time totime and we have differences in
opinion from time to time orwhatever, but ultimately the
goal is the same, you know, Imean throughout.
(13:20):
You know the amount of thepersonality.
So, yeah, we've been able toachieve that for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
What would you say has been one of your highlights
to date?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Lightning, you know, I mean lightning.
Definitely the people seem tolove it, you know.
So we give thanks for that, youknow, give us all the support
and the love.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Is that one of your favorite, pardon?
What's your favorite in yourcatalog?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
My favorite Ah, you know what I think?
My favorite song from my EP isMisery.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
OK, OK.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I think that's my tune still, you know.
Yeah, it's a misery.
I love fight the fight too, butmisery, you know I, yeah, that
tune is special to me.
I love fighting in it, don'tget me wrong, you know, but yeah
.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Why, why, why, why misery.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I don't speak a lot about what goes on in the
society.
A lot I don't.
I don't speak a lot about itbecause one I tend to not get
myself to politically involved,but there are matters that are
urgent.
The freedom of the people is amatter that's urgent.
(14:39):
Equality amongst mankind is amatter that's urgent.
And when I look around me and Isee none of these things are
happening, and I see lies beingtold and I see people still in
bondage, you know, I mean evenwithout the chains, necessarily
it concerns me.
And it's one of those songs thatspeaks about the current state
(15:01):
of society or what I've observedaround me.
You know, I mean.
So it's one of my favoritesongs because I felt like I had
the opportunity to step out ofmy, my comfort zone to speak
about these things, you know, Imean.
So that's definitely has aspecial thing for me.
And and and I applied from thatto the drums Jeez, please, you
(15:23):
see me squidly played drums andon that tune, a reginem squidly,
he like awesome, awesomeminister, he like awesome,
awesome musician, you see me.
And so the drums on that waslike yo Slap in, you see me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I likeit.
(15:46):
Next thing, and then the pit ofthe pump, pump, pump, pump, pump
like the pianos.
That's so crazy thing.
Money, you see me.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
That's it.
That's always exciting and Ithink it's always fun to
understand, like what artistslove to perform in their catalog
.
I think one of the thechallenges and opportunities
that has presented itself for alot of artists is social media.
How do you balance using socialmedia without letting it kind
(16:21):
of get to you, even just from ausage standpoint, and how you
want to post your messages andhow you want to present yourself
to the world?
I think it has a number ofpositive impacts, but it also
has a lot of negative impacts aswell.
How do you, as a person and anartist, manage utilizing social
(16:43):
media in the right way?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Um, you know what the whole social media bug hasn't
with me.
Yet, to be honest, you know,and I should state that as one
of my challenges, I do find it achallenge to keep up with this
new era of you know, as we maytalk like Misa Oldman, but it's
not really something, misaOldman, you know, but I think, I
(17:07):
think I'm very much in favor,or in more favor, of the old way
, the older way, which hasbecome not so popular these days
, you know.
I mean, obviously, the earthhas evolved in its own way,
technology has evolved in itsown way.
You know, music and as a resultto music and music, business,
(17:29):
you know, has evolved.
I don't know if it's progressor regress, you know, um, a lot
of people see it as progress.
You know, because of thesethings and the internet and
whatever, the world has becomemuch smaller and knowledge is
now, you know, knowledge anddifferent perspectives is more
(17:52):
reachable, you know, I mean moreeasily reachable than before,
more accessible, you know, Imean.
So on that side I guess there'sa plus.
But, like for me, and music andsocial media, that's all I use
social media for, really andtruly to just promote music, you
know.
And even that I don't think I'meven doing too well with,
because it involves me gettingin front of a camera videoing
(18:15):
myself singing something or likeposting this.
I'm trying to get comfortablewith it, but it's not my
favorite aspect.
You know what I mean.
So I've said that's one of thechallenges, but you know, to
ride with the times you have tokind of just kind of overcome
some of the fears that you have.
You know the limitations thatyou put on yourself.
(18:37):
You see me.
So, yeah, some of those thingsI'm working towards, but I
definitely feel like it has aplace.
I definitely feel like a lot ofpeople have used it to become
more visible, to sell theirbusiness or sell themselves or
whatever in the ways that matter.
You know what I mean.
So I definitely feel like it'sa good space, as long as it's
(18:58):
not abused.
You know, just like anythingelse in life, you know, a lot of
things are good, but they arealso bad if abused as well.
You see me.
So, yeah, everything good isbad, but not everything bad is
good or everything good can bebad.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, very true, very true.
All right, we're going to havesome fun.
Mortimer, you are touching theroad.
What are you playing to getexcited?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
We're not playing on the road, let's see.
No, no, probably some PostMalone, some Migas.
Post Malone, migas, maybeAurora, you know.
I mean, I know that's like amix of vibes, but you know, I
mean probably some little Sims,you know, yeah, I'd say that
(19:52):
Definitely Post Malone, for sureyou know.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
What should go to outfit?
We are weird, we are styluid Yogeneral.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Um, my order, some things, just that.
Are there some nice things, youknow I mean, that I'm excited
about we can't wait for put onthem.
Fit there.
You know I mean, but I'm asimple brother.
You know I don't really go toextravagant, though these days
have been tempted to probablyswitch it up a bit.
You know, I mean I like thewhole mask wearing idea.
(20:22):
You know I'm into the idea oflike some Jumbo earrings, you
know, like just some crazy thing.
You know I mean I don't havelike a problem within myself
expressing myself fashion wise,like to you know, me yeah, yeah.
So I'd like to get more into youknow some crazy expressions,
(20:44):
yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I love it.
I like the experiment,definitely put on some mud
shirts too.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
We're not that for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
The big question is clocks are crepes?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah, man, well, clocks and sneakers, you see me,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I have a favorite boots that I might very well
carry upon to him.
I have, like a brown uppersboots that I got a couple of
years ago and I've just not beenable to get my freaking self
out of it.
Yeah Well it's my favorite andyou know the boots are most done
(21:26):
in a way.
I love it so much I want to getanother one, but it itself just
, it's just nice.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
It's more to the step of what you've already been
through, so that's why justchange the bottom of it.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Take it to a shoemaker and they can change
the bottom for you.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Well, thank you so much, Mortimer.
Thank you, I appreciate it.
I know we're all over for time,but I was having such a great
conversation with you.
You can't come back anytime.
I'll have you back anytime.
Maybe when, when the albumdrops, will have you back again.
And you tell me about having meon tour, but you know I'm a big
(22:09):
supporter of your music, so I'mlooking forward to the album
dropping.
Wishing you all the best ontour and thanks again.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Thank you so much.
It's nice to meet family too.
Absolutely Thanks for the link.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
But that will take that up on next time.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, definitely Teague supposed to be coming up
soon.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
So, okay, yes.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
One of the time.
Yes, I'm going to eat something?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yes, so I'm going to eat something.
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Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of
the Style and Vibes podcast withyours truly Makayla.
If you are new here, welcome tothe family.
If you are returning, welcomeback family.
Today I have a very specialmusical guest.
I love his voice.
It is one of my favorite voicesthat have come out of Jamaica
in the last 10 years.
(00:25):
If you don't know that now youwill know and make sure you go
and stream his music.
But it is Jamaican reggaeartist known as Mortimer.
How are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I am fine, thank you.
Thanks for having me on yourshow, thanks for the love and
support Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So I discovered your music.
I discovered Lightning first,and then I came and kind of
listened to the EP.
But I know you recently droppeda single and you are getting
ready to go on tour and releasean album.
Please tell me about thatprocess and when we can expect
it.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
We have been working on it for the past since, like
before the pandemic Through thepandemic After that.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So tell me about the single slowly.
Like well, I don't really thinkwe really talked about
Lightning, which is one of myfavorites from you, so let's
talk about that one first.
How did that song come about,and is that the one people kind
of really know you for, or is?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
it.
Yeah yeah, that was a lot of youknow, a lot of vibe, some great
things, but that song didn'teven come from like the most
lovely witty place ever.
You know, the Dorado kind ofvibe where, you know, we were at
each other's throat and it waslike feeling like, you know, one
(01:49):
of those times when you sayyou're done, you're not going to
do this anymore.
You know, I feel like I'm a bitof communicator to my pen.
You know, it was more likewriting a letter, more than just
like a song.
I don't know if I can put intowords face the truth Exactly,
but this is all through this.
Yeah, and at the time I didn'teven know that you would have
(02:10):
been such a song.
You know I'm more peoplegravitate to that way and the
first time I made it I hear itshe didn't even like it.
Like she didn't even like it,so that's how my first she's
like okay.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
We're so unimpressed, all right.
Wow, okay, well, I mean, well,the people that are excited to
hear it when it and what one of,I think, because it is a
vulnerable drug.
It's not, like you said, it'snot super lovey-dovey, but it's.
It's a tender moment of sharing, like you know, relationship
(02:53):
woes.
But I think also my favorite,one of my favorite parts of that
particular song is, I thinkit's right after the bridge
where the sound goes from onespeaker to the other and it kind
of like transitions and I wasjust like I've never heard this
done before, like ever, and it'ssuch a.
(03:14):
It was such a nice tender momentto end the song and I think, as
, as as Jamaican artists, we, we, like me, my artist, um means
that the artist but not go pastthe second verse, right, it was
(03:38):
one of those songs where youhave to finish because it just
continues to build right upuntil the end.
So I think the, the productionof it, that's a song in my mind.
You cannot not play the wholething and you perform it and you
and the production of it.
You have to play it rightthrough, from beginning to end,
(03:58):
because there are moments inbetween the song that you can't
just like mix it, I mean you can, but to get the full essence of
the song, you have to play itfrom beginning to end.
The idea was that because thatwas, I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I don't even remember , to be honest, but possibly
winter.
But what we did was like panthe vocals, like a vocal panning
in the mixing stage, where youwould put some vocals to the
rice or some to the la bica andit like it goes no-transcript.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yes, and if you're listening to it out loud you
have to listen like closely tohear it, but when you have in
your headphones and you hear itit just very, very poignant Big
up winter, big up winter.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely I'm super to the
unknown.
Superman is our engineer andhas been respected him.
I'm my most comfortable withall of this.
His name is from Japan, but youknow he loves Jamaica, and for
(05:07):
years.
No, I would work with him Bigup to school.
Originally we used to work witha virtual box.
He's the engineer first.
Then it became super, you know,just by natural transition.
You know, big up to the board,to them as well, and to Tandra
(05:28):
she's a female engineer with.
So we're for big up the peoplewho, behind all the mechanics
it's not just me or it's notjust sound Take a whole team and
I've been for the whole five towork.
I'd love to take us for beingon me.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Big up the team and the inspiration because you know
, you know, I definitely know itdefinitely takes a team and and
the the admiration that youhave for the people that work
for you is also very telling ofyou as an artist.
So I really want you to tell meabout you know you're about to
go on tour in Europe.
(06:10):
Is this going to be your firsttime in Europe, specifically?
No, it's going to be my third.
Okay, okay.
So, you mean you're you reachover Europe, but you're not
reaching it yet.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That's what you're telling me.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Oh no, you have to switch that up, man, all right.
So tell me about, about goingabout to go on tour and release
a new project.
So let me know what.
Do you have a release date?
Is it going to be while you'reon tour or when you're, when you
come back?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
We're going to drop another single.
We just drop slowly.
You had asked about slowly.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yes, yes, I think slowly kind of gives me a
lightning vibe, but a little bitdifferent.
So tell me about slowly thething.
And you did an animation videoversus like a a what, what, what
, what, what?
Why was that?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Um, I just, I felt like I could get expressed a lot
more through the animationvideo, like project consider an
algorithm kind of thing.
I want you to be your magicalexperience.
You know so, yeah, it was morelike that.
And you know, over the years,because so much food has been
put on so much weight sincelightning, you know what I mean
(07:28):
and I felt like, should I use it?
If I can't make it super sexy,then I'm just not going to do it
.
You know what I mean.
Like yeah, and I don't feellike I am.
Please, you are least sexy,ready for a song like that.
I just, I just can't let youstay for the chorus.
(07:49):
Hopefully, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Get serious about working out and telling Tikka no
to some of the plates sometime.
And you know some of the mealsand I've got the discipline
going, then you know, perhaps,maybe I will do a one.
You know, oil down video Maybe.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
You know she can hear this again on time.
No, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
She can hear the interview again on time, you
know.
So you don't have a date yetfor the release.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
For the release of the album.
Yeah Well, we we're looking atMay.
There's no date date yet.
You know what I mean, Becauseyou don't know how these things
go.
Sometimes you're planning tofinish by next week, but maybe
there's a mix that you had torevise and send back and then
get another one, and then youknow there's a bunch of things
to consider why we haven't yetcome to a date.
(08:46):
So I feel like as soon as we'refinished with all the mixes,
all the masters properly, thenwe can say, all right, then
we're going to release on the12th of this month, or you know
what I mean, Whatever.
But we do have another singlecoming out while I'm on tour in
a in probably like a couple ofweeks.
You know what I mean.
(09:07):
I'm about to shoot the videofor it this week coming.
As a matter of fact, you knowwhat I mean.
That one is called Not a DayGoes by.
That's off the album as well.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
So what are you most excited for when people hear
this full length album?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
from you.
What am I most excited for?
When people hear the album.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, what are you looking forward to?
For people to hearing somethinglike from you?
New on this.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
Inspiring, you know, atogetherness.
You know, some company for thelonely sense of relatability.
You know sharing some love, youknow.
So I'm most excited aboutpeople feeling the emotions that
(10:02):
I put into the project in thefirst place.
You know what I mean.
I'm definitely looking forwardto that.
This album is very moody.
You see me One of the moremoody sides of things, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And we touched upon coming to the States.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
but I'm actually pretty serious have you
considered coming stateside tokind of, yeah, I would love to
as a matter of fact, you know,and we have gotten like quite a
few invites to the States andthings, but just the economics
of it all sometimes like to goand do like two shows here and
(10:43):
then like two shows over thereand two shows over there.
You know what I mean.
So it's we're kind of trying tolook at setting up like a whole
run, you know I mean, where itjust makes a little bit more
sense economically.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, the logistics gotta work.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, but I definitely would like to, you
know, come that side.
It's a great dream of anyartist, you know, I mean the
great yourself, definitely, toget your music heard.
That side is difficult, butit's one of the things that we
aspire to, you know.
I mean to break in through inall parts of the world, you know
(11:22):
in the US, the UK, Asia,everywhere.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Africa.
Africa, everywhere, everywhereon this earth, if we can be in
every, at every doorstep, on, inevery heart, you know then
thanks as an artist, what havebeen like some of the challenges
you would say in terms ofthere's, the art of making music
and the business what?
What do you think has been themost challenging for you as an
(11:51):
artist over the years?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I think most challenging thing for me has
been aligning myself with peopleI can trust, people who are
also in alignment with where myheadspace is at and my vision
for the music that I'd like tobe heard and the way I'd like my
music to sound, you know.
(12:14):
But I feel like I feel likeI've managed to surround myself
with a really great team.
No, you know what I mean Wintermusically, he gets me musically
and I get him musically.
We work on a lot of the stufftogether.
That's a blessing in and ofitself.
So that was one of thechallenges, because before I was
(12:37):
like, you know, when you'reworking with people or whatever,
it's just not quite the fit.
You know people send you stuffand it's just like, yeah, but I
don't think there's ever a timewhen winter sent me something,
when I'm like you know, I meanlike we just get each other
musically.
So that's one of the thingsI've managed to overcome over
the years and be able tosurround myself with people who
(13:00):
I can trust with my career, youknow I mean and my vision and
yeah, we've been just going atit together and it's been a
joyous ride so far.
Yes, we both have some time totime and we have differences in
opinion from time to time orwhatever, but ultimately the
goal is the same, you know, Imean throughout.
(13:20):
You know the amount of thepersonality.
So, yeah, we've been able toachieve that for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
What would you say has been one of your highlights
to date?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Lightning, you know, I mean lightning.
Definitely the people seem tolove it, you know.
So we give thanks for that, youknow, give us all the support
and the love.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Is that one of your favorite, pardon?
What's your favorite in yourcatalog?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
My favorite Ah, you know what I think?
My favorite song from my EP isMisery.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
OK, OK.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I think that's my tune still, you know.
Yeah, it's a misery.
I love fight the fight too, butmisery, you know I, yeah, that
tune is special to me.
I love fighting in it, don'tget me wrong, you know, but yeah
.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Why, why, why, why misery.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I don't speak a lot about what goes on in the
society.
A lot I don't.
I don't speak a lot about itbecause one I tend to not get
myself to politically involved,but there are matters that are
urgent.
The freedom of the people is amatter that's urgent.
(14:39):
Equality amongst mankind is amatter that's urgent.
And when I look around me and Isee none of these things are
happening, and I see lies beingtold and I see people still in
bondage, you know, I mean evenwithout the chains, necessarily
it concerns me.
And it's one of those songs thatspeaks about the current state
(15:01):
of society or what I've observedaround me.
You know, I mean.
So it's one of my favoritesongs because I felt like I had
the opportunity to step out ofmy, my comfort zone to speak
about these things, you know, Imean.
So that's definitely has aspecial thing for me.
And and and I applied from thatto the drums Jeez, please, you
(15:23):
see me squidly played drums andon that tune, a reginem squidly,
he like awesome, awesomeminister, he like awesome,
awesome musician, you see me.
And so the drums on that waslike yo Slap in, you see me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I likeit.
(15:46):
Next thing, and then the pit ofthe pump, pump, pump, pump, pump
like the pianos.
That's so crazy thing.
Money, you see me.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
That's it.
That's always exciting and Ithink it's always fun to
understand, like what artistslove to perform in their catalog
.
I think one of the thechallenges and opportunities
that has presented itself for alot of artists is social media.
How do you balance using socialmedia without letting it kind
(16:21):
of get to you, even just from ausage standpoint, and how you
want to post your messages andhow you want to present yourself
to the world?
I think it has a number ofpositive impacts, but it also
has a lot of negative impacts aswell.
How do you, as a person and anartist, manage utilizing social
(16:43):
media in the right way?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Um, you know what the whole social media bug hasn't
with me.
Yet, to be honest, you know,and I should state that as one
of my challenges, I do find it achallenge to keep up with this
new era of you know, as we maytalk like Misa Oldman, but it's
not really something, misaOldman, you know, but I think, I
(17:07):
think I'm very much in favor,or in more favor, of the old way
, the older way, which hasbecome not so popular these days
, you know.
I mean, obviously, the earthhas evolved in its own way,
technology has evolved in itsown way.
You know, music and as a resultto music and music, business,
(17:29):
you know, has evolved.
I don't know if it's progressor regress, you know, um, a lot
of people see it as progress.
You know, because of thesethings and the internet and
whatever, the world has becomemuch smaller and knowledge is
now, you know, knowledge anddifferent perspectives is more
(17:52):
reachable, you know, I mean moreeasily reachable than before,
more accessible, you know, Imean.
So on that side I guess there'sa plus.
But, like for me, and music andsocial media, that's all I use
social media for, really andtruly to just promote music, you
know.
And even that I don't think I'meven doing too well with,
because it involves me gettingin front of a camera videoing
(18:15):
myself singing something or likeposting this.
I'm trying to get comfortablewith it, but it's not my
favorite aspect.
You know what I mean.
So I've said that's one of thechallenges, but you know, to
ride with the times you have tokind of just kind of overcome
some of the fears that you have.
You know the limitations thatyou put on yourself.
(18:37):
You see me.
So, yeah, some of those thingsI'm working towards, but I
definitely feel like it has aplace.
I definitely feel like a lot ofpeople have used it to become
more visible, to sell theirbusiness or sell themselves or
whatever in the ways that matter.
You know what I mean.
So I definitely feel like it'sa good space, as long as it's
(18:58):
not abused.
You know, just like anythingelse in life, you know, a lot of
things are good, but they arealso bad if abused as well.
You see me.
So, yeah, everything good isbad, but not everything bad is
good or everything good can bebad.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, very true, very true.
All right, we're going to havesome fun.
Mortimer, you are touching theroad.
What are you playing to getexcited?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
We're not playing on the road, let's see.
No, no, probably some PostMalone, some Migas.
Post Malone, migas, maybeAurora, you know.
I mean, I know that's like amix of vibes, but you know, I
mean probably some little Sims,you know, yeah, I'd say that
(19:52):
Definitely Post Malone, for sureyou know.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
What should go to outfit?
We are weird, we are styluid Yogeneral.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Um, my order, some things, just that.
Are there some nice things, youknow I mean, that I'm excited
about we can't wait for put onthem.
Fit there.
You know I mean, but I'm asimple brother.
You know I don't really go toextravagant, though these days
have been tempted to probablyswitch it up a bit.
You know, I mean I like thewhole mask wearing idea.
(20:22):
You know I'm into the idea oflike some Jumbo earrings, you
know, like just some crazy thing.
You know I mean I don't havelike a problem within myself
expressing myself fashion wise,like to you know, me yeah, yeah.
So I'd like to get more into youknow some crazy expressions,
(20:44):
yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I love it.
I like the experiment,definitely put on some mud
shirts too.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
We're not that for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
The big question is clocks are crepes?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah, man, well, clocks and sneakers, you see me,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I have a favorite boots that I might very well
carry upon to him.
I have, like a brown uppersboots that I got a couple of
years ago and I've just not beenable to get my freaking self
out of it.
Yeah Well it's my favorite andyou know the boots are most done
(21:26):
in a way.
I love it so much I want to getanother one, but it itself just
, it's just nice.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
It's more to the step of what you've already been
through, so that's why justchange the bottom of it.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Take it to a shoemaker and they can change
the bottom for you.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Well, thank you so much, Mortimer.
Thank you, I appreciate it.
I know we're all over for time,but I was having such a great
conversation with you.
You can't come back anytime.
I'll have you back anytime.
Maybe when, when the albumdrops, will have you back again.
And you tell me about having meon tour, but you know I'm a big
(22:09):
supporter of your music, so I'mlooking forward to the album
dropping.
Wishing you all the best ontour and thanks again.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Thank you so much.
It's nice to meet family too.
Absolutely Thanks for the link.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
But that will take that up on next time.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, definitely Teague supposed to be coming up
soon.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
So, okay, yes.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
One of the time.
Yes, I'm going to eat something?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yes, so I'm going to eat something.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Thanks, Thanks for watching.
We'll see you in the nextepisode of the style and vibes
podcast If you like what youhear, and I know you do share it
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