August 27, 2026 • 20 mins
Simon and Patsy are back taking another "deep dive" into a new type of book. The Travel Addict Podcast - The Spoken Word to The Written Word - Volume Two
Host of "The Travel Addict Podcast", Malcolm Teasdale sometimes talks by himself, and these spoken words are now summarized into written words for those people who prefer reading rather than listening, or just do both.
Volume Two, contains a variety of travel related subjects, including his experiences onboard cruise ships around the world, including some of the subjects of his enrichment presentations to the passengers on board. In addition, he presents some of his personal opinions about travel-related subjects, which expose the best of, the worst of, the concerns, the humorous, bucket-list items, and other points of substance that stick in the brain cells forever.
The content will pique your interest in various capacities, but the principal benefit from reading this book is that it will inspire you to start traveling more and gain a better understanding of how the rest of the world lives and works.
Safe travels.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Welcome to the Travel Addict Podcast.
(00:02):
Your host and fellow traveladdict Malcolm Teesdale is here
to take you into the heart ofthe world's most fascinating
destinations.
He talks with passionateglobetrotters and fearless
explorers who share their wildjourneys and cultural insights
from around the world.
Or sometimes he just chats byhimself, describing enriching
travel experiences.
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So buckle up and let's hit theroad, because the world is
calling and we're answering.
SPEAKER_01 (00:28):
Picture this for a second.
You are standing next to atuk-tuk on this dusty dirt road.
You're holding your neatlypacked luggage, frantically
counting, you know, unfamiliarforeign currency, and you're
trying to decipher some hastilyscribbled directions to your
hotel.
And right there, pecking at theGirt, literally inches from your
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shoe, is a random chicken.
SPEAKER_02 (00:51):
I mean, it perfectly captures the fiction of stepping
outside your bubble, doesn't it?
SPEAKER_01 (00:55):
It really does.
SPEAKER_02 (00:56):
Malcolm Teesdale's memoir, The Travel Addict Volume
2, uses moments exactly likethis to basically pull back the
curtain on why we actually leavehome in the first place.
It is a deep dive into the humancondition, just completely
disguised as a travelogue.
SPEAKER_01 (01:11):
Aaron Powell Okay, let's unpack this.
Because that mental image of thechicken next to the suitcase is
well, it's the ultimate metaphorfor travel.
You try to plan, you try tooptimize every single minute,
you try to completely controlyour journey, but life will
inevitably happen.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_02 (01:24):
Life and random poultry.
SPEAKER_01 (01:26):
Exactly.
So our mission for you today isto extract the hidden logic of
travel.
We want to figure out howunexpected chaos, extreme
contrasts, and you know,profound encounters out in the
world actively shape yourunderstanding of yourself.
SPEAKER_02 (01:41):
Because if you demand perfect control over your
environment, hitting the roadwill just completely break you.
The narrative here demonstratesthat surrendering to that
unpredictability isn't just likea survival mechanism for a bad
trip.
Yeah.
It's precisely what transforms asimple vacation into a
fundamental shift inperspective.
SPEAKER_01 (02:00):
Aaron Powell So let's start with the absolute
most frustrating attempt tomaintain control, which is
logistics.
We've all been there.
Keysdale shares this story abouttrying to optimize his parking
at the Atlanta airport that ishonestly just a masterpiece of
modern agony.
SPEAKER_02 (02:14):
Oh, the parking lot story.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (02:15):
It's so painful.
So he already had a perfectlyfine parking spot on the top
deck of the economy lot.
But as he was heading into theterminal, he spotted an empty
space on a lower level.
It was maybe, I don't know, a50-foot walk close to the door.
SPEAKER_02 (02:28):
Ah, the devastating trap of marginal convenience.
SPEAKER_01 (02:32):
Yes.
It's exactly like when you're indead stop traffic and you switch
lanes because the other onelooks a tiny bit faster.
SPEAKER_02 (02:39):
And then you just sit there.
SPEAKER_01 (02:40):
Right.
You watch your old laneimmediately start moving while
you're trapped.
So he drove down the ramp tograb that closer spot.
But by doing so, he entered aone-way flow with literally no
way to reverse.
He was forced straight into theexit lane.
SPEAKER_02 (02:55):
Which is where we see the rigid mechanics of
automated systems in action.
I mean, a parking barrier has nomemory, it has no empathy, and
absolutely no room for nuance.
SPEAKER_01 (03:05):
None at all.
SPEAKER_02 (03:05):
When systems operate on a massive scale, and you
know, Atlanta's the busiestairport in the world, the
individual human experience isentirely stripped away.
The system didn't know he justwanted to move down one level,
it just registered a carexiting.
SPEAKER_01 (03:18):
Aaron Powell And the ripple effect was just
catastrophic because he chasedthat tiny bit of convenience.
The lot filled up while he wascircling back, the signs flashed
closed.
Yeah, he had to park miles awayin this remote park and ride.
He he missed his shuttle.
He missed his flight.
He lost his luggage.
And when he finally arrived athis destination a full day
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later, just completelyexhausted, his client had
already gone with a competitor.
That is just brutal.
It gets worse.
Oh, and during this wholechaotic day, navigating
Atlanta's massive concourseslinked by the underground plane
train, he actually managed to bethe absolute last passenger to
board the exact same flight ontwo different aircraft because
of app errors and swappedplanes.
SPEAKER_02 (04:00):
Wow.
But you know what's fascinatinghere is how it forces a
confrontation with our own lackof agency.
We always think we are drivingthe timeline.
Right.
But a massive, unfeeling systemlike an international airport
proves otherwise.
The real skill of a global roadwarrior isn't flawless planning.
It's the psychologicalresilience required when the
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plan completely evaporates.
SPEAKER_01 (04:21):
Yeah, the Atlanta Airport breaks you down because
it strips away your humanity.
It makes you realize how vital asystem built on actual human
empathy is, which kind ofperfectly explains why the
memoir pivots so sharply to theexact opposite kind of
environment, the Nordic model.
SPEAKER_02 (04:37):
Yeah.
Moving to highly orderlyfunctional societies like
Iceland, Denmark, Finland,Sweden, Norway.
It provides a really starkcontrast to that airport chaos.
When you examine global metricsfor quality of life, happiness,
and safety, Northern Europeconsistently dominates.
SPEAKER_01 (04:55):
Aaron Powell You really do?
SPEAKER_02 (04:56):
Yeah.
Iceland ranks as the safest,Denmark is the least corrupt,
and Finland is just repeatedlyranked the happiest country on
earth.
SPEAKER_01 (05:02):
Aaron Powell They boast clean environments, active
lifestyles, and incredibly highpublic trust.
SPEAKER_02 (05:07):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (05:07):
But I have to push back on this a little bit,
actually.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_02 (05:09):
Yeah.
Okay, go for it.
SPEAKER_01 (05:10):
I look at those happiness metrics and I wonder:
are they happy in spite of thebrutal dark freezing winters or
because of them?
SPEAKER_02 (05:18):
Aaron Powell Oh, that's an interesting angle.
SPEAKER_01 (05:19):
Aaron Powell Right.
Like, do long, harsh wintershistorically force a society to
build strong communal safetynets and trusts just to survive?
Yeah.
I mean, you can't just leaveyour neighbor out in the snow to
freeze, right?
SPEAKER_02 (05:30):
Trevor Burrus That actually raises a really
important question aboutsurvival economics and uh
cultural DNA.
It is highly probable that harshenvironments necessitated a
culture of deep cooperationcenturies ago.
But if we connect this to thebigger picture today, what
really sustains these metrics ishow these societies view
collective responsibility.
SPEAKER_01 (05:51):
Okay.
How so?
SPEAKER_02 (05:52):
Well, they have incredibly high taxes, yet the
citizens generally view thosetaxes as a collective investment
with a guaranteed high return,not as a punitive burden.
Aaron Powell Right.
SPEAKER_01 (06:02):
So they're paying for a functional society, not
just, you know, a fee forservices.
SPEAKER_02 (06:06):
Precisely.
They prioritize long-termsocietal well-being over
short-term material excess.
There's this huge culturalemphasis on balance.
What these countries reallydemonstrate is that a great
society isn't determined by thesize of its GDP or, you know,
how many billionaires itproduces.
It's defined by how efficientlyand equitably a society acts as
a safety net for its mostvulnerable people.
SPEAKER_01 (06:28):
Aaron Powell, which is a brilliant way to survive a
harsh environment.
But what happens when a traveleractively bypasses those safety
nets and seeks out the absoluteextremes of the planet?
Because Teesdale describes thisjarring, almost surreal physical
transition.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_02 (06:45):
Right, the Svalbard trip.
SPEAKER_01 (06:46):
Yeah.
He goes from baking in100-degree tropical heat in the
Turks and Caicos straight to the20-degree Arctic freeze of Long
Year Bay-in and Svalbard.
SPEAKER_02 (06:54):
Aaron Powell And Svalbard is just an incredible
case study in human limits.
It is the northernmost permanenthuman settlement on Earth, and
the environment essentiallydictates every single aspect of
existence there.
SPEAKER_01 (07:05):
Aaron Ross Powell The rules are completely wild.
SPEAKER_02 (07:06):
They really are.
SPEAKER_01 (07:07):
Like polar bears outnumber humans.
If you step outside the citylimits, you are legally required
to carry a rifle.
SPEAKER_02 (07:13):
Aaron Powell Right, for protection.
SPEAKER_01 (07:14):
Trevor Burrus And they've banned cats entirely
just to protect the local birdpopulation.
And my absolute favorite detail,it is essentially illegal to die
there.
SPEAKER_02 (07:23):
Aaron Ross Powell Yeah, the mechanics behind that
law are purely environmental.
The ground in Svalbard ispermafrost.
So if you bury a body, theextreme cold prevents
decomposition, and the shiftingpermafrost literally pushes the
bodies back to the surface overtime.
SPEAKER_01 (07:39):
Aaron Powell That is just wow.
SPEAKER_02 (07:41):
Yeah.
So anyone who is terminally illis relocated to mainland Norway.
SPEAKER_01 (07:46):
It fundamentally rewires how you think about your
place in the world, doesn't it?
SPEAKER_02 (07:50):
It completely strips away human arrogance.
When you live in a modern city,you just assume you are at the
top of the food chain.
In Svalbard, you are acutelyaware that you are no longer the
apex predator, and you areentirely at the mercy of the
climate.
You are merely a fragile guestin an ancient hostile landscape.
SPEAKER_01 (08:06):
And that profound fragility comes up again when
the author talks about hisbrushes with history.
He details this whole series ofnear misses.
SPEAKER_02 (08:14):
Oh, this part was intense.
SPEAKER_01 (08:15):
Yeah, he flew the exact MH-17 route over Eastern
Europe shortly before that planewas tragically shot down.
He visited the World TradeCenter just before 9-11.
He was walking through thestreets of Kiev shortly before
the Russian invasion began.
SPEAKER_02 (08:28):
And when analyzing these near misses, it's not
about making politicalstatements regarding the
conflicts themselves.
We're not doing that.
It's about observing theunsettling reality of standing
on ground that is about topermanently shift.
SPEAKER_01 (08:42):
Right.
It's a phenomenon I kind of liketo call survivor's guilt by
geography.
It's this chilling realizationthat the only difference between
an idyllic vacation and ahistorical tragedy was just
stepping onto the right plane onthe right Tuesday.
SPEAKER_02 (08:56):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (08:57):
It's like a giant game of musical chairs with
history, and you only realizehow close you were to the music
stopping long after the fact.
SPEAKER_02 (09:04):
It totally shatters the illusion of permanence.
We walk through stable citiesassuming they will always be
stable, assuming the cafes willalways be open and the streets
will always be safe.
Confronting the sheer dumb luckof timing reminds us that we are
entirely subject to the massivecurrents of geopolitics and
nature.
SPEAKER_01 (09:20):
And I feel like that exact humbling realization
prepares you perfectly to enterspaces that demand deep, quiet
reflection.
The memoir explores thisprofound difference between
traveling for mere enjoyment andtraveling to confront the
absolute extremes of humancapability.
So let's look at the contrastbetween dark tourism and sacred
spaces.
SPEAKER_02 (09:41):
Teesdale actually dedicates significant time to
what he calls thought-provokingplaces.
For example, he visits thekilling fields in Cambodia.
And this isn't, you know, apassive museum exhibit.
You are standing in the veryfields where the Cara Rouge
committed unthinkableatrocities.
Yeah.
There is a stupa filled entirelywith human skulls and a killing
tree marked with the horrifichistory of what happened right
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there.
SPEAKER_01 (10:03):
The weight of a space like that just has to be
suffocating.
The air itself probably feelsheavy with destruction.
But then he contrasts those darksites with sacred places built
for faith in creation.
The Taj Mahal, you know, thisimpossible architectural
monument to grief and love.
The Bhutanath stupa in the pall,rising out of the chaotic, dusty
streets of Kathmandu, with giantpainted eyes radiating peace.
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And of course, Bhutan's Tiger'sNest Monastery, which
practically defies gravity,clinging to a vertical cliff
face 10,000 feet up in theHimalayas.
SPEAKER_02 (10:35):
And reaching Tiger's Nest is the absolute antithesis
of a casual tourist stop.
It demands a grueling multi-hourtrek ascending a steep mountain
path in incredibly thin air.
SPEAKER_01 (10:47):
Here's where it gets really interesting to me.
Does the grueling physicalstruggle of a truck like that,
literally gasping for thin air,your muscles burning, your lungs
just screaming, actually preparethe brain to feel that sudden
wave of awe when you finallyarrive?
Like, do you have to physicallyempty yourself out to truly
receive the experience?
SPEAKER_02 (11:06):
That is actually exactly how the mechanics of awe
operate.
The extreme physical exertionserves a very real psychological
purpose.
It strips away all the mundanemental chatter of everyday life.
Your emails, your mortgage, yourparking tickets, they all just
vanish.
SPEAKER_01 (11:18):
Right, you can't worry about an email when you
can't breathe.
SPEAKER_02 (11:20):
Exactly.
By the time you reach themonastery, you are intensely,
unavoidably present.
What's compelling here is howtravel forces you to hold the
duality of humanity in your mindsimultaneously.
We possess the capacity forunimaginable, localized cruelty,
as seen in the killing fields.
Yet we also possess the capacityto painstakingly carry stones up
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a vertical cliff to build amonument to fate that survives
for centuries.
SPEAKER_01 (11:47):
You leave those places forever changed.
And while the physicalarchitecture of the skulls or
the stones anchors you to thoseprofound moments, there is an
invisible anchor that caninstantly transport you back to
those exact places no matterwhere you are in the world.
I'm talking about the soundtrackof travel.
SPEAKER_02 (12:03):
Oh, the intersection of neurology, music, and spatial
memory is just incrediblypowerful.
The narrative details howhearing specific songs instantly
resurrects the exact geographyof his past trips.
SPEAKER_01 (12:13):
It is the ultimate travel hack.
It's like loading a safe statein a video game.
SPEAKER_02 (12:17):
That's a great way to put it.
SPEAKER_01 (12:18):
You hear a few chords, and boom, your brain
instantly downloads the sights,the smells, the temperature, and
the visceral emotions of thatspecific moment in time.
It completely bypasses normalmemory decay.
Like Teesdale remembers CarlosSantana playing in Milwaukee
right after Stevie Ray Vaughan'sdeath, and he can still feel how
heavy the room was.
SPEAKER_02 (12:37):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (12:38):
He remembers Pink Floyd playing Dark Side of the
Moon near the ruins of CoventryCathedral.
Yanni performing at the TajMahal, and listening to the
Scorpion's Wind of Change whilestanding at the Brandenburg Gate
in Berlin right after the end ofthe Cold War.
SPEAKER_02 (12:52):
And if we look at the cognitive science behind
this, visual memories fadesurprisingly fast.
You will forget the exact layoutof a street or the color of a
building.
But auditory associationspossess this unique durability
in the human brain.
SPEAKER_01 (13:05):
Interesting.
SPEAKER_02 (13:05):
Yeah, music contextualizes a physical place,
and in return, the placepermanently redefines the music.
For anyone standing in Berlin inthat era, the Scorpion song
ceases to be just a rock ballad,you know?
It physically embodies thefeeling of a reunified city.
The sound and the space fusetogether permanently.
SPEAKER_01 (13:23):
So music anchors us to the chaos and history of
humanity.
But what happens when you removeall the noise?
You take away the crowds, youkill the soundtrack, and you go
somewhere completely, utterlysilent.
The deepest reflections in thebook happen when the author
confronts the awe-inspiringscale of the natural world,
specifically beneath thesurface.
SPEAKER_02 (13:42):
Moving from the symphony of human memory to the
total silence of nature providesa really profound shift in
perspective.
Teesdale describes these momentsof total environmental
immersion.
The blue out of the Maldiveswhere the sky and the crystal
clear water blends so seamlesslythat the horizon vanishes
entirely.
The stillness of Dudley inNamibia, where these
900-year-old scorched treesstand frozen in time against
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towering orange sand dunes.
But his most transformativesilence is found through scuba
diving.
SPEAKER_01 (14:11):
The way he describes it is just magic.
He talks about swimmingalongside giant manta rays in
the Maldives, which he comparesto watching a silent underwater
ballet.
He details diving in Palau,where the currents are so
violent you actually have to usea reef hook, literally anchoring
yourself to the rock while youjust hang suspended in the water
column, as dozens of sharksglide effortlessly past you in
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the current.
SPEAKER_02 (14:33):
It's incredible.
SPEAKER_01 (14:34):
And witnessing the unmatched, vibrant biodiversity
of Raja Ampot in Indonesia.
SPEAKER_02 (14:39):
I mean, scuba diving is an entirely alien activity
for our terrestrial evolution.
You are breathing underwater,suspended in a
three-dimensional, weightlessenvironment.
SPEAKER_01 (14:50):
It feels like diving isn't just a hobby.
It's like entering an entirelydifferent operating system for
the planet.
Do you think we'd treat theearth differently if every
single person on the planet wasforced to spend just one hour
floating in that ecosystem?
SPEAKER_02 (15:03):
Without a doubt.
What diving achieves is makingthe abstract fragility of the
earth visible and reallyvisceral.
When you read an article aboutcoral bleaching, it's just a sad
statistic.
But when you swim over ableached dead reef that used to
be teeming with color, it is apersonal tragedy.
It shifts the traveler frombeing a passive observer looking
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at a postcard view to being anactive participant suspended
within an ancient, delicatebalance.
You realize that this massive,silent world operates completely
independently of our humandramas.
SPEAKER_01 (15:37):
And realizing the sheer overwhelming scale of
what's out there perfectlyexplains a funny paradox about
travel.
You'd think the more places youcheck off, the shorter your
bucket list gets.
SPEAKER_02 (15:51):
Because every destination reveals three more
you didn't know existed.
The author's own list continuesto relentlessly expand.
Trekking through the Amazonrainforest, climbing Machu
Picchu, witnessing the massiveSerengeti migration, attempting
the summit of Mount Kilimanjaro,and even navigating the historic
fairways of golf at Pinehurstnumber two.
SPEAKER_01 (16:11):
So what does this all mean?
Let me play devil's advocate fora second here.
Isn't the modern concept of thebucket list sometimes a trap?
Like, doesn't it run the risk ofbecoming a checklist of pure
consumerism where we justcollect exotic destinations for
social media clout instead ofactually taking the time to
experience them?
SPEAKER_02 (16:28):
It absolutely can devolve into a status-driven
trap.
That's a real danger.
However, the narrative reframesthe bucket list brilliantly
here.
For the genuine learner, abucket list isn't a conquered
checklist.
It's an engine of curiosity.
It's physical proof that yourefuse to stop being surprised
by the world.
It keeps your postureforward-looking, continually
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seeking out new perspectives.
SPEAKER_01 (16:50):
And it proves you're never too old to laugh at
yourself, which brings us to myabsolute favorite part, cultural
quirks.
Because even when you think youhave everything figured out,
even when you speak the exactsame language, you can still
stumble completely blind into acultural wall.
Teesdale devotes a whole sectionto the hilarity of the US and
the UK being two nations dividedby a common language.
SPEAKER_02 (17:10):
Oh, the linguistic friction between American and
British English highlights howshared vocabulary in no way
guarantees shared context.
SPEAKER_01 (17:18):
The stories are gold.
He talks about being in asterile corporate office in
Florida and innocently asking afemale colleague if he could
borrow a rubber.
SPEAKER_02 (17:28):
Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_01 (17:29):
Yeah.
In the UK, a rubber is an eraserfor a pencil.
In the US, well, that requeststopped the entire office in its
tracks.
SPEAKER_02 (17:37):
A painfully awkward yet just perfect example of
cultural mistranslation.
SPEAKER_01 (17:42):
Right.
And he gets equally confused byAmerican idioms.
Someone tells him they are justgoing to shoot the breeze and he
has absolutely no idea whatthey're talking about.
But the British have their ownentirely absurd slang.
SPEAKER_02 (17:53):
Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (17:54):
Like saying someone is doing a Devin Locke, which
means feeling inexplicably rightat the finish line, named after
a racehorse that famously bellyflopped yards from winning, or
declaring that something is thedog's bollocks, which sounds
terrible, but surprisingly meansit's absolutely fantastic.
SPEAKER_02 (18:10):
And these aren't just silly phrases, you know.
Idioms carry the history, thehumor, and the identity of a
culture.
Living them is as essential totravel as visiting any museum.
It teaches you humility.
You have to be entirely willingto sound foolish in order to
genuinely connect with thelocals.
SPEAKER_01 (18:25):
Okay, let's bring all this together.
We've covered massive groundtoday, jumping from the
maddening, unfeeling parkinglots of Atlanta to the silent,
weightless depths of Raja Ampat.
The mission of this deep divewas to extract the hidden logic
of travel.
And what we've uncovered is thattravel isn't really about the
coordinates of where you go,it's about how those specific
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places fundamentally reshapeyour understanding of humanity
and your exact place in it.
SPEAKER_02 (18:53):
It's the process of building psychological
resilience when your perfectlycrafted plans fail.
It's recognizing our sharedcapacity for both unimaginable
destruction and breathtakingcreation.
And it's maintaining a deep,humbling sense of awe for the
scale of the natural world.
SPEAKER_01 (19:08):
And here is the truly incredible part for you
listening at home.
You don't need a stampedpassport or a plane ticket to
use these lessons.
The forced adaptability youlearn when a flight is abruptly
canceled, the deep trust you seemodeled in Nordic societies, the
profound awe you feel standingunder a completely dark, starry
sky, those are cognitive tools.
You can use them in youreveryday life right now, the
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next time your own daily plansgo completely off the rails.
SPEAKER_02 (19:32):
Which brings us to a final thought for you to mull
over today.
If travel is ultimately aboutchanging how we see the world,
what if the most transformativedestination for you isn't a
remote cliffside monastery inBhutan or a deep ocean reef in
the Maldives?
What if it's the very street youlive on?
How would your own hometown looktomorrow morning if you walked
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through it with the eyes of atraveler, actively searching for
the history, the hidden systems,and the culture that you've been
blindly walking past everysingle day?
SPEAKER_01 (20:01):
It really all comes down to perspective.
You can furiously try to controlevery tiny detail of your
journey, or you can look down atyour luggage, see the chicken
pecking at your feet, and justdecide to embrace the ride.
Thanks for joining us on thisdeep dive.
SPEAKER_00 (20:15):
That's it for this episode of the Travel Addict
Podcast, where we chase sunsets,flirt with danger, and
occasionally make questionablechoices in foreign lands.
Until next time, may yourflights be on time.
And your travel stories justscandalous enough to leave a few
details out.
Check out Malcolm's websites atmalcolmteesdale.com and
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travelingenglishman.com.
Save travels and enjoy life,everyone.
Welcome to the Travel Addict Podcast.
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Your host and fellow traveladdict Malcolm Teesdale is here
to take you into the heart ofthe world's most fascinating
destinations.
He talks with passionateglobetrotters and fearless
explorers who share their wildjourneys and cultural insights
from around the world.
Or sometimes he just chats byhimself, describing enriching
travel experiences.
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So buckle up and let's hit theroad, because the world is
calling and we're answering.
SPEAKER_01 (00:28):
Picture this for a second.
You are standing next to atuk-tuk on this dusty dirt road.
You're holding your neatlypacked luggage, frantically
counting, you know, unfamiliarforeign currency, and you're
trying to decipher some hastilyscribbled directions to your
hotel.
And right there, pecking at theGirt, literally inches from your
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shoe, is a random chicken.
SPEAKER_02 (00:51):
I mean, it perfectly captures the fiction of stepping
outside your bubble, doesn't it?
SPEAKER_01 (00:55):
It really does.
SPEAKER_02 (00:56):
Malcolm Teesdale's memoir, The Travel Addict Volume
2, uses moments exactly likethis to basically pull back the
curtain on why we actually leavehome in the first place.
It is a deep dive into the humancondition, just completely
disguised as a travelogue.
SPEAKER_01 (01:11):
Aaron Powell Okay, let's unpack this.
Because that mental image of thechicken next to the suitcase is
well, it's the ultimate metaphorfor travel.
You try to plan, you try tooptimize every single minute,
you try to completely controlyour journey, but life will
inevitably happen.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_02 (01:24):
Life and random poultry.
SPEAKER_01 (01:26):
Exactly.
So our mission for you today isto extract the hidden logic of
travel.
We want to figure out howunexpected chaos, extreme
contrasts, and you know,profound encounters out in the
world actively shape yourunderstanding of yourself.
SPEAKER_02 (01:41):
Because if you demand perfect control over your
environment, hitting the roadwill just completely break you.
The narrative here demonstratesthat surrendering to that
unpredictability isn't just likea survival mechanism for a bad
trip.
Yeah.
It's precisely what transforms asimple vacation into a
fundamental shift inperspective.
SPEAKER_01 (02:00):
Aaron Powell So let's start with the absolute
most frustrating attempt tomaintain control, which is
logistics.
We've all been there.
Keysdale shares this story abouttrying to optimize his parking
at the Atlanta airport that ishonestly just a masterpiece of
modern agony.
SPEAKER_02 (02:14):
Oh, the parking lot story.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (02:15):
It's so painful.
So he already had a perfectlyfine parking spot on the top
deck of the economy lot.
But as he was heading into theterminal, he spotted an empty
space on a lower level.
It was maybe, I don't know, a50-foot walk close to the door.
SPEAKER_02 (02:28):
Ah, the devastating trap of marginal convenience.
SPEAKER_01 (02:32):
Yes.
It's exactly like when you're indead stop traffic and you switch
lanes because the other onelooks a tiny bit faster.
SPEAKER_02 (02:39):
And then you just sit there.
SPEAKER_01 (02:40):
Right.
You watch your old laneimmediately start moving while
you're trapped.
So he drove down the ramp tograb that closer spot.
But by doing so, he entered aone-way flow with literally no
way to reverse.
He was forced straight into theexit lane.
SPEAKER_02 (02:55):
Which is where we see the rigid mechanics of
automated systems in action.
I mean, a parking barrier has nomemory, it has no empathy, and
absolutely no room for nuance.
SPEAKER_01 (03:05):
None at all.
SPEAKER_02 (03:05):
When systems operate on a massive scale, and you
know, Atlanta's the busiestairport in the world, the
individual human experience isentirely stripped away.
The system didn't know he justwanted to move down one level,
it just registered a carexiting.
SPEAKER_01 (03:18):
Aaron Powell And the ripple effect was just
catastrophic because he chasedthat tiny bit of convenience.
The lot filled up while he wascircling back, the signs flashed
closed.
Yeah, he had to park miles awayin this remote park and ride.
He he missed his shuttle.
He missed his flight.
He lost his luggage.
And when he finally arrived athis destination a full day
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later, just completelyexhausted, his client had
already gone with a competitor.
That is just brutal.
It gets worse.
Oh, and during this wholechaotic day, navigating
Atlanta's massive concourseslinked by the underground plane
train, he actually managed to bethe absolute last passenger to
board the exact same flight ontwo different aircraft because
of app errors and swappedplanes.
SPEAKER_02 (04:00):
Wow.
But you know what's fascinatinghere is how it forces a
confrontation with our own lackof agency.
We always think we are drivingthe timeline.
Right.
But a massive, unfeeling systemlike an international airport
proves otherwise.
The real skill of a global roadwarrior isn't flawless planning.
It's the psychologicalresilience required when the
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plan completely evaporates.
SPEAKER_01 (04:21):
Yeah, the Atlanta Airport breaks you down because
it strips away your humanity.
It makes you realize how vital asystem built on actual human
empathy is, which kind ofperfectly explains why the
memoir pivots so sharply to theexact opposite kind of
environment, the Nordic model.
SPEAKER_02 (04:37):
Yeah.
Moving to highly orderlyfunctional societies like
Iceland, Denmark, Finland,Sweden, Norway.
It provides a really starkcontrast to that airport chaos.
When you examine global metricsfor quality of life, happiness,
and safety, Northern Europeconsistently dominates.
SPEAKER_01 (04:55):
Aaron Powell You really do?
SPEAKER_02 (04:56):
Yeah.
Iceland ranks as the safest,Denmark is the least corrupt,
and Finland is just repeatedlyranked the happiest country on
earth.
SPEAKER_01 (05:02):
Aaron Powell They boast clean environments, active
lifestyles, and incredibly highpublic trust.
SPEAKER_02 (05:07):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (05:07):
But I have to push back on this a little bit,
actually.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_02 (05:09):
Yeah.
Okay, go for it.
SPEAKER_01 (05:10):
I look at those happiness metrics and I wonder:
are they happy in spite of thebrutal dark freezing winters or
because of them?
SPEAKER_02 (05:18):
Aaron Powell Oh, that's an interesting angle.
SPEAKER_01 (05:19):
Aaron Powell Right.
Like, do long, harsh wintershistorically force a society to
build strong communal safetynets and trusts just to survive?
Yeah.
I mean, you can't just leaveyour neighbor out in the snow to
freeze, right?
SPEAKER_02 (05:30):
Trevor Burrus That actually raises a really
important question aboutsurvival economics and uh
cultural DNA.
It is highly probable that harshenvironments necessitated a
culture of deep cooperationcenturies ago.
But if we connect this to thebigger picture today, what
really sustains these metrics ishow these societies view
collective responsibility.
SPEAKER_01 (05:51):
Okay.
How so?
SPEAKER_02 (05:52):
Well, they have incredibly high taxes, yet the
citizens generally view thosetaxes as a collective investment
with a guaranteed high return,not as a punitive burden.
Aaron Powell Right.
SPEAKER_01 (06:02):
So they're paying for a functional society, not
just, you know, a fee forservices.
SPEAKER_02 (06:06):
Precisely.
They prioritize long-termsocietal well-being over
short-term material excess.
There's this huge culturalemphasis on balance.
What these countries reallydemonstrate is that a great
society isn't determined by thesize of its GDP or, you know,
how many billionaires itproduces.
It's defined by how efficientlyand equitably a society acts as
a safety net for its mostvulnerable people.
SPEAKER_01 (06:28):
Aaron Powell, which is a brilliant way to survive a
harsh environment.
But what happens when a traveleractively bypasses those safety
nets and seeks out the absoluteextremes of the planet?
Because Teesdale describes thisjarring, almost surreal physical
transition.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_02 (06:45):
Right, the Svalbard trip.
SPEAKER_01 (06:46):
Yeah.
He goes from baking in100-degree tropical heat in the
Turks and Caicos straight to the20-degree Arctic freeze of Long
Year Bay-in and Svalbard.
SPEAKER_02 (06:54):
Aaron Powell And Svalbard is just an incredible
case study in human limits.
It is the northernmost permanenthuman settlement on Earth, and
the environment essentiallydictates every single aspect of
existence there.
SPEAKER_01 (07:05):
Aaron Ross Powell The rules are completely wild.
SPEAKER_02 (07:06):
They really are.
SPEAKER_01 (07:07):
Like polar bears outnumber humans.
If you step outside the citylimits, you are legally required
to carry a rifle.
SPEAKER_02 (07:13):
Aaron Powell Right, for protection.
SPEAKER_01 (07:14):
Trevor Burrus And they've banned cats entirely
just to protect the local birdpopulation.
And my absolute favorite detail,it is essentially illegal to die
there.
SPEAKER_02 (07:23):
Aaron Ross Powell Yeah, the mechanics behind that
law are purely environmental.
The ground in Svalbard ispermafrost.
So if you bury a body, theextreme cold prevents
decomposition, and the shiftingpermafrost literally pushes the
bodies back to the surface overtime.
SPEAKER_01 (07:39):
Aaron Powell That is just wow.
SPEAKER_02 (07:41):
Yeah.
So anyone who is terminally illis relocated to mainland Norway.
SPEAKER_01 (07:46):
It fundamentally rewires how you think about your
place in the world, doesn't it?
SPEAKER_02 (07:50):
It completely strips away human arrogance.
When you live in a modern city,you just assume you are at the
top of the food chain.
In Svalbard, you are acutelyaware that you are no longer the
apex predator, and you areentirely at the mercy of the
climate.
You are merely a fragile guestin an ancient hostile landscape.
SPEAKER_01 (08:06):
And that profound fragility comes up again when
the author talks about hisbrushes with history.
He details this whole series ofnear misses.
SPEAKER_02 (08:14):
Oh, this part was intense.
SPEAKER_01 (08:15):
Yeah, he flew the exact MH-17 route over Eastern
Europe shortly before that planewas tragically shot down.
He visited the World TradeCenter just before 9-11.
He was walking through thestreets of Kiev shortly before
the Russian invasion began.
SPEAKER_02 (08:28):
And when analyzing these near misses, it's not
about making politicalstatements regarding the
conflicts themselves.
We're not doing that.
It's about observing theunsettling reality of standing
on ground that is about topermanently shift.
SPEAKER_01 (08:42):
Right.
It's a phenomenon I kind of liketo call survivor's guilt by
geography.
It's this chilling realizationthat the only difference between
an idyllic vacation and ahistorical tragedy was just
stepping onto the right plane onthe right Tuesday.
SPEAKER_02 (08:56):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (08:57):
It's like a giant game of musical chairs with
history, and you only realizehow close you were to the music
stopping long after the fact.
SPEAKER_02 (09:04):
It totally shatters the illusion of permanence.
We walk through stable citiesassuming they will always be
stable, assuming the cafes willalways be open and the streets
will always be safe.
Confronting the sheer dumb luckof timing reminds us that we are
entirely subject to the massivecurrents of geopolitics and
nature.
SPEAKER_01 (09:20):
And I feel like that exact humbling realization
prepares you perfectly to enterspaces that demand deep, quiet
reflection.
The memoir explores thisprofound difference between
traveling for mere enjoyment andtraveling to confront the
absolute extremes of humancapability.
So let's look at the contrastbetween dark tourism and sacred
spaces.
SPEAKER_02 (09:41):
Teesdale actually dedicates significant time to
what he calls thought-provokingplaces.
For example, he visits thekilling fields in Cambodia.
And this isn't, you know, apassive museum exhibit.
You are standing in the veryfields where the Cara Rouge
committed unthinkableatrocities.
Yeah.
There is a stupa filled entirelywith human skulls and a killing
tree marked with the horrifichistory of what happened right
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there.
SPEAKER_01 (10:03):
The weight of a space like that just has to be
suffocating.
The air itself probably feelsheavy with destruction.
But then he contrasts those darksites with sacred places built
for faith in creation.
The Taj Mahal, you know, thisimpossible architectural
monument to grief and love.
The Bhutanath stupa in the pall,rising out of the chaotic, dusty
streets of Kathmandu, with giantpainted eyes radiating peace.
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And of course, Bhutan's Tiger'sNest Monastery, which
practically defies gravity,clinging to a vertical cliff
face 10,000 feet up in theHimalayas.
SPEAKER_02 (10:35):
And reaching Tiger's Nest is the absolute antithesis
of a casual tourist stop.
It demands a grueling multi-hourtrek ascending a steep mountain
path in incredibly thin air.
SPEAKER_01 (10:47):
Here's where it gets really interesting to me.
Does the grueling physicalstruggle of a truck like that,
literally gasping for thin air,your muscles burning, your lungs
just screaming, actually preparethe brain to feel that sudden
wave of awe when you finallyarrive?
Like, do you have to physicallyempty yourself out to truly
receive the experience?
SPEAKER_02 (11:06):
That is actually exactly how the mechanics of awe
operate.
The extreme physical exertionserves a very real psychological
purpose.
It strips away all the mundanemental chatter of everyday life.
Your emails, your mortgage, yourparking tickets, they all just
vanish.
SPEAKER_01 (11:18):
Right, you can't worry about an email when you
can't breathe.
SPEAKER_02 (11:20):
Exactly.
By the time you reach themonastery, you are intensely,
unavoidably present.
What's compelling here is howtravel forces you to hold the
duality of humanity in your mindsimultaneously.
We possess the capacity forunimaginable, localized cruelty,
as seen in the killing fields.
Yet we also possess the capacityto painstakingly carry stones up
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a vertical cliff to build amonument to fate that survives
for centuries.
SPEAKER_01 (11:47):
You leave those places forever changed.
And while the physicalarchitecture of the skulls or
the stones anchors you to thoseprofound moments, there is an
invisible anchor that caninstantly transport you back to
those exact places no matterwhere you are in the world.
I'm talking about the soundtrackof travel.
SPEAKER_02 (12:03):
Oh, the intersection of neurology, music, and spatial
memory is just incrediblypowerful.
The narrative details howhearing specific songs instantly
resurrects the exact geographyof his past trips.
SPEAKER_01 (12:13):
It is the ultimate travel hack.
It's like loading a safe statein a video game.
SPEAKER_02 (12:17):
That's a great way to put it.
SPEAKER_01 (12:18):
You hear a few chords, and boom, your brain
instantly downloads the sights,the smells, the temperature, and
the visceral emotions of thatspecific moment in time.
It completely bypasses normalmemory decay.
Like Teesdale remembers CarlosSantana playing in Milwaukee
right after Stevie Ray Vaughan'sdeath, and he can still feel how
heavy the room was.
SPEAKER_02 (12:37):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (12:38):
He remembers Pink Floyd playing Dark Side of the
Moon near the ruins of CoventryCathedral.
Yanni performing at the TajMahal, and listening to the
Scorpion's Wind of Change whilestanding at the Brandenburg Gate
in Berlin right after the end ofthe Cold War.
SPEAKER_02 (12:52):
And if we look at the cognitive science behind
this, visual memories fadesurprisingly fast.
You will forget the exact layoutof a street or the color of a
building.
But auditory associationspossess this unique durability
in the human brain.
SPEAKER_01 (13:05):
Interesting.
SPEAKER_02 (13:05):
Yeah, music contextualizes a physical place,
and in return, the placepermanently redefines the music.
For anyone standing in Berlin inthat era, the Scorpion song
ceases to be just a rock ballad,you know?
It physically embodies thefeeling of a reunified city.
The sound and the space fusetogether permanently.
SPEAKER_01 (13:23):
So music anchors us to the chaos and history of
humanity.
But what happens when you removeall the noise?
You take away the crowds, youkill the soundtrack, and you go
somewhere completely, utterlysilent.
The deepest reflections in thebook happen when the author
confronts the awe-inspiringscale of the natural world,
specifically beneath thesurface.
SPEAKER_02 (13:42):
Moving from the symphony of human memory to the
total silence of nature providesa really profound shift in
perspective.
Teesdale describes these momentsof total environmental
immersion.
The blue out of the Maldiveswhere the sky and the crystal
clear water blends so seamlesslythat the horizon vanishes
entirely.
The stillness of Dudley inNamibia, where these
900-year-old scorched treesstand frozen in time against
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towering orange sand dunes.
But his most transformativesilence is found through scuba
diving.
SPEAKER_01 (14:11):
The way he describes it is just magic.
He talks about swimmingalongside giant manta rays in
the Maldives, which he comparesto watching a silent underwater
ballet.
He details diving in Palau,where the currents are so
violent you actually have to usea reef hook, literally anchoring
yourself to the rock while youjust hang suspended in the water
column, as dozens of sharksglide effortlessly past you in
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the current.
SPEAKER_02 (14:33):
It's incredible.
SPEAKER_01 (14:34):
And witnessing the unmatched, vibrant biodiversity
of Raja Ampot in Indonesia.
SPEAKER_02 (14:39):
I mean, scuba diving is an entirely alien activity
for our terrestrial evolution.
You are breathing underwater,suspended in a
three-dimensional, weightlessenvironment.
SPEAKER_01 (14:50):
It feels like diving isn't just a hobby.
It's like entering an entirelydifferent operating system for
the planet.
Do you think we'd treat theearth differently if every
single person on the planet wasforced to spend just one hour
floating in that ecosystem?
SPEAKER_02 (15:03):
Without a doubt.
What diving achieves is makingthe abstract fragility of the
earth visible and reallyvisceral.
When you read an article aboutcoral bleaching, it's just a sad
statistic.
But when you swim over ableached dead reef that used to
be teeming with color, it is apersonal tragedy.
It shifts the traveler frombeing a passive observer looking
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at a postcard view to being anactive participant suspended
within an ancient, delicatebalance.
You realize that this massive,silent world operates completely
independently of our humandramas.
SPEAKER_01 (15:37):
And realizing the sheer overwhelming scale of
what's out there perfectlyexplains a funny paradox about
travel.
You'd think the more places youcheck off, the shorter your
bucket list gets.
SPEAKER_02 (15:51):
Because every destination reveals three more
you didn't know existed.
The author's own list continuesto relentlessly expand.
Trekking through the Amazonrainforest, climbing Machu
Picchu, witnessing the massiveSerengeti migration, attempting
the summit of Mount Kilimanjaro,and even navigating the historic
fairways of golf at Pinehurstnumber two.
SPEAKER_01 (16:11):
So what does this all mean?
Let me play devil's advocate fora second here.
Isn't the modern concept of thebucket list sometimes a trap?
Like, doesn't it run the risk ofbecoming a checklist of pure
consumerism where we justcollect exotic destinations for
social media clout instead ofactually taking the time to
experience them?
SPEAKER_02 (16:28):
It absolutely can devolve into a status-driven
trap.
That's a real danger.
However, the narrative reframesthe bucket list brilliantly
here.
For the genuine learner, abucket list isn't a conquered
checklist.
It's an engine of curiosity.
It's physical proof that yourefuse to stop being surprised
by the world.
It keeps your postureforward-looking, continually
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seeking out new perspectives.
SPEAKER_01 (16:50):
And it proves you're never too old to laugh at
yourself, which brings us to myabsolute favorite part, cultural
quirks.
Because even when you think youhave everything figured out,
even when you speak the exactsame language, you can still
stumble completely blind into acultural wall.
Teesdale devotes a whole sectionto the hilarity of the US and
the UK being two nations dividedby a common language.
SPEAKER_02 (17:10):
Oh, the linguistic friction between American and
British English highlights howshared vocabulary in no way
guarantees shared context.
SPEAKER_01 (17:18):
The stories are gold.
He talks about being in asterile corporate office in
Florida and innocently asking afemale colleague if he could
borrow a rubber.
SPEAKER_02 (17:28):
Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_01 (17:29):
Yeah.
In the UK, a rubber is an eraserfor a pencil.
In the US, well, that requeststopped the entire office in its
tracks.
SPEAKER_02 (17:37):
A painfully awkward yet just perfect example of
cultural mistranslation.
SPEAKER_01 (17:42):
Right.
And he gets equally confused byAmerican idioms.
Someone tells him they are justgoing to shoot the breeze and he
has absolutely no idea whatthey're talking about.
But the British have their ownentirely absurd slang.
SPEAKER_02 (17:53):
Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (17:54):
Like saying someone is doing a Devin Locke, which
means feeling inexplicably rightat the finish line, named after
a racehorse that famously bellyflopped yards from winning, or
declaring that something is thedog's bollocks, which sounds
terrible, but surprisingly meansit's absolutely fantastic.
SPEAKER_02 (18:10):
And these aren't just silly phrases, you know.
Idioms carry the history, thehumor, and the identity of a
culture.
Living them is as essential totravel as visiting any museum.
It teaches you humility.
You have to be entirely willingto sound foolish in order to
genuinely connect with thelocals.
SPEAKER_01 (18:25):
Okay, let's bring all this together.
We've covered massive groundtoday, jumping from the
maddening, unfeeling parkinglots of Atlanta to the silent,
weightless depths of Raja Ampat.
The mission of this deep divewas to extract the hidden logic
of travel.
And what we've uncovered is thattravel isn't really about the
coordinates of where you go,it's about how those specific
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places fundamentally reshapeyour understanding of humanity
and your exact place in it.
SPEAKER_02 (18:53):
It's the process of building psychological
resilience when your perfectlycrafted plans fail.
It's recognizing our sharedcapacity for both unimaginable
destruction and breathtakingcreation.
And it's maintaining a deep,humbling sense of awe for the
scale of the natural world.
SPEAKER_01 (19:08):
And here is the truly incredible part for you
listening at home.
You don't need a stampedpassport or a plane ticket to
use these lessons.
The forced adaptability youlearn when a flight is abruptly
canceled, the deep trust you seemodeled in Nordic societies, the
profound awe you feel standingunder a completely dark, starry
sky, those are cognitive tools.
You can use them in youreveryday life right now, the
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next time your own daily plansgo completely off the rails.
SPEAKER_02 (19:32):
Which brings us to a final thought for you to mull
over today.
If travel is ultimately aboutchanging how we see the world,
what if the most transformativedestination for you isn't a
remote cliffside monastery inBhutan or a deep ocean reef in
the Maldives?
What if it's the very street youlive on?
How would your own hometown looktomorrow morning if you walked
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through it with the eyes of atraveler, actively searching for
the history, the hidden systems,and the culture that you've been
blindly walking past everysingle day?
SPEAKER_01 (20:01):
It really all comes down to perspective.
You can furiously try to controlevery tiny detail of your
journey, or you can look down atyour luggage, see the chicken
pecking at your feet, and justdecide to embrace the ride.
Thanks for joining us on thisdeep dive.
SPEAKER_00 (20:15):
That's it for this episode of the Travel Addict
Podcast, where we chase sunsets,flirt with danger, and
occasionally make questionablechoices in foreign lands.
Until next time, may yourflights be on time.
And your travel stories justscandalous enough to leave a few
details out.
Check out Malcolm's websites atmalcolmteesdale.com and
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travelingenglishman.com.
Save travels and enjoy life,everyone.
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