International Feature: KPop Demon Hunters

K-pop Demon Hunters blends spectacular animation with chart-topping music to create Netflix's biggest animated surprise hit of the year. Sony Pictures' animated film follows K-pop superstars Rumi, Mira, and Zoey who use their secret powers to protect fans from supernatural threats.

• Animation style draws inspiration from Spider-Verse and Mitchells vs. The Machines, offering something fresh compared to traditional Disney animation
• Music serves as the film's beating heart, with songs like Golden, Soda Pop, and What It Sounds Like climbing streaming charts worldwide
• Director Maggie Kang describes the film as her "love letter to K-pop and her Korean roots"
• Authentic Korean representation throughout, from character design to animation techniques specifically depicting Korean facial features
• Character dynamics feel genuine and lived-in, particularly the friendship between the three Huntrix members
• Strong potential for award nominations and franchise expansion

Letterbox'd Synopsis: When K-pop superstars Rumi, Mira and Zoey aren’t selling out stadiums, they’re using their secret powers to protect their fans from supernatural threats.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Mr Eric Almighty and Phil the Filipino.
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And all you gotta do is wait for it.
This is the Wait For it Podcast.
Hey, everyone, welcome back tothe Wait For it Podcast.

(00:36):
I'm your co-host, phil Barrera,aka Phil the Filipino.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
And I'm your other co-host, mr Eric Almighty, and
for this edition ofInternational Feature.
Well, this episode doesn'treally need an introduction,
because everyone's talking aboutit and, yeah, we fell into the
craze.
We have to talk about it too.
Phil, we are here to talk aboutK-pop.
Demon hunters.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, and we are recording this episode a couple
of weeks early.
So this episode will come outon July 16th but we're recording
it on July 1st, so we're verymuch still right in the middle
of the craze that is K-pop.
Demon Hunters.
It released, I think, last weekand we'll see where everything
stands on the 16th.
I'm sure this is going to govery, very strongly as far as

(01:20):
this craze throughout theremainder of the year.
Eric, I can't even imagine wehave Infinity Con in a couple
weeks.
I can't even imagine how muchK-Pop Team and Hunter stuff we
are going to see, not onlyInfinity Con, ocala Comic Con.
At least one of us will be atTampa Bay Comic Con.
Well, we will not be able tolook anywhere Without seeing
Huntrix and the Saja Boys andDerpy as well.

(01:42):
So very, very excited to get tothis episode here.
Eric, and we did a little bit ofa pivot, even though this
technically is a film.
You know it's an Americanproduced film but everybody
involved, from the director to alot of the producers, animators
and, of course, the voiceactors Most of them are Korean

(02:02):
or from somewhere else in theworld.
So we figured it would be agood chance for us to talk about
this because everybody else is.
So before we dive into theepisode, I want to welcome in
any returning and brand newlisteners.
If you want to keep up with theWayForward podcast, make sure
you stick around to the very endof the episode.
We'll let you know where youcan find everything that you
need.
But yeah, eric, let's get intothis here.
K-pop Demon Hunter is a filmthat released on Netflix.

(02:24):
It is a Sony animated film.
So when you think of what doesthis animation look like?
Think Mitchell vs Machines Intothe Spider-Verse.
So it is of that ilk.
It was directed by ChrisApplehans and Maggie Kang and
the synopsis reads when K-Popsuperstars Rumi, Mira and Zoey

(02:47):
aren't selling out stadiums,they're using their secret
powers to protect their fansfrom supernatural threats.
So, eric, I brought this film toyour.
I brought it to you probably acouple months back because I
just randomly saw a trailer, Ithink, on Twitter, and I was
like what in the world is this?
Because obviously, what's goingto stand out is like whenever

(03:08):
you see the Mitchells versus themachines or Spider-Verse
animation, it's immediatelygoing to be eye catching.
Anything that's not this likeround, circular animation that
Disney just seems so committedto right now.
That's always going to catchyour eye.
So, leading up to this, wherewas this on your radar?
Because obviously we're goingto talk about the impact of it

(03:29):
now, but, like, leading up to it, it kind of we're like, oh yeah
, k-pop Demon Hunters came out.
What was your level of interestleading into this release?

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, it was very minimal.
In fact, when Phil had talkedabout watching the movie and
then kind of wanted to pivot tothis being the international
feature, my first thing was that, oh, this is like a Sony
Pictures movie.
This is a United States projectright, like I know it's K-pop
demon hunters but you kind ofassume they're going to
Americanize it a little bit,just because, unfortunately,

(03:59):
that's the shitty thing thatstudios tend to do.
And when we looked at theanimation through the trailer, I
didn't know how to express it,but now it makes sense reading
more about it.
They took some of those hybrid2D, 3d elements apparently and
they made it more less 2D andthey kind of went a different
direction with it, which I thinkis a good thing.

(04:19):
But I couldn't quite tell fromthe trailer.
I was like this animation looksgood, it looks different.
I wonder what that looks like.
Am I gonna check it out?
Maybe I guess I'll watch it.
I want to see what other peoplethink about it first.
And then phil, it took zero time.
It went from zero to a hundredon how people started to feel

(04:41):
about this, including yourself,yourself, and I started to read
up more about it and thengetting to hear a little bit
more about how much of theKorean like culture is in this
movie, down to how they animatedsome of these characters.
We'll get maybe into some ofthat in a little bit.
But I started reading up on themovie more and I was like, okay

(05:02):
, so maybe there's hope thatthis isn't just an Americanized
project trying to capitalize onK-pop, which is very popular.
And I pressed play, I wasn'treluctant, I was like I'm going
to give this a real shot and Iwalked away loving the film.
I stayed away from the film andthought about it and then it

(05:22):
just kept getting thrown in myface.
And here we are, phil, to saytoday I love it even more than I
did when I watched it the firsttime.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, I think in our friend group I was the first
person to jump into it, becauseit was just one of those nights
where I was just hanging out andI think I probably was playing
like a game on my one screen.
I was like, oh, let me, Iforgot that this released.
Let me go ahead and check itout and I forgot that this

(06:05):
released, let me go ahead andcheck it out.
And that, of course, with thatbeing like one of the first
things you see, you get thebackstory.
You know you get thetraditional backstory.
You get to meet the characters.
They got really cool designsand then you jump into the music
and you're like, okay, maybewe're cooking here, let's see
where this goes.
You get a lot more lore dropand you know we'll talk about

(06:32):
the music here in just a momentand from what I have seen from
people that I have introducedthis to, they're pretty bought
in by the time golden comes up.
But when soda pop comes on,that is when a lot of people are
like they like perk up, they'relike oh, which is probably a
pretty bad sign in case demonsever came to earth to try to
take over as a boy band.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Not great, we're really easy, no, we're really
easy.
Cattle to really just gettogether.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
So that's what I have seen from a lot of people that
I had them take this on.
So I'll say this, like becausemy daughter and my sister were a
little reluctant to jump intothis because they just assume it
was one sister were a littlereluctant to jump into this
because they just assume it wasone.
It was just an anime, which Ihad to assure them that you know
, you have to approach this likea sony film, like a spider
verse, like a mitchell's versusthe machines, and also, too,

(07:12):
they're not necessarily reallyinto k-pop, and that I
definitely understand as well.
So if, for some reason, again,a month removed from the movie's
release, you still have beenreluctant to dive into it
because of those two things,maybe you're not into quote
unquote anime.
That's not what this is.
Are there anime elements in this?
Yes, of course, but that's notwhat's going on here.
It also is English.

(07:32):
That's the primary language ofthe film.
It is.
There is Korean sprinkled intothe film, of course, because,
like you said, eric, there is alot of stuff that's true to
culture in here that I think isreally great.
But to you know, if you want tospeak to maybe those people
that, for whatever reason havenot seen it yet about maybe some
reservations they would haveabout watching something like
this.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, and I would say out of the two of us, I'm
probably more familiar with theK-pop territory, like I do
listen to Stray Kids and acouple other groups not very
often, but I definitely havelistened to that type of music
and I get I get the craze andlike the whole thing behind it.
For the most part, I've got apretty good grip around that.

(08:12):
However, it's not somethingthat I would normally jump into
and that probably was some of myhesitation.
When the movie, like I can keepk-pop Hunters the fucking title
doesn't really lend itself tolike a mass appeal.
It's very clear K-pop DemonHunters, which, again not
surprising you then mention youhave people in your life that

(08:35):
are like, oh, this is just ananime.
So it kind of gives that mixedsignal of who the audience is
for this.
But there's so much going behindthis movie other than just
catchy music that I think reallyhelps.
Now, is it strong in every area?
We will discuss that and Ithink I might be a little bit
more harsh on certain story orplot points than you are, but I

(08:59):
think what people need tounderstand when they're coming
into this film yes, there'sK-pop, yes, there's demon
hunters and demon slayinghappening, but there's a lot
more heart to this film and Ireally think, at the end of the
day, that's what people canrelate with, even if they're not
a fan of the genre or K-popitself.

(09:20):
I think you can really getbehind a movie like this, and it
does help that the music iscatchy as hell, so like it is.
When you get to Golden you'repretty much like oh this, so the
music's going to slap the wholetime.
That's great, you know.
And then you get to Soda Popand you're just like shouldn't
enjoy this, just like thecharacters shouldn't enjoy this.
But those shoulders are moving,man, those shoulders are moving

(09:43):
.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Hey, the Saja boys need us right.
So like, who are we to turndown the saja boy?
Who are we so?
yeah yeah, that's.
Another thing is, uh, you knowwhen we're talking about, uh,
those characters as well.
Like, the characters are alljust so very lovable, um, not
only when it comes to huntrix,but also, you know, the big star
of this is Jinu.
I think he's probably comingaway like on top, probably

(10:09):
between him and Rumi.
As far as the two, well,actually it might be Derpy,
which we haven't even touched onyet.
It might actually be Derpy.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
I was going to say Jinu is crazy considering his
backstory, which we will,because this movie is fresh,
very, very fresh.
Off of this episode, we willhave a spoiler centric section
for those of you guys that donot want to be spoiled.
But uh, yeah, kind of crazyconsidering his backstory, for
sure yeah, and I've seen thismovie four times now.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
So just to give you guys a little insight into
what's going on, I do want toread some of the um notes here.
As far as on the wikipediadevelopment, because Maggie Kang
has been very, very active onTwitter, answering people's
questions, interacting with thefan base, which is really cool.
She said it was conceived byher to make a film set in Korean
culture.
She delved into mythology anddemonology for something that

(10:59):
could be visually unique incomparison to mainstream media.
She also called the film herlove letter to k-pop and her
korean roots.
So she wanted to differentiateit from, like the marvel female
superheroes that we're seeing.
Um, she wanted to and I've seena lot of women talk about this
here on on social media as wellreally making sure that like it

(11:19):
showed that these maincharacters like in like a
natural element, so bare face,no makeup, you know, just being
with their friends and beingwith their female relationships
and sitting in those.
Those things are really, reallyimportant.
So, and from what I've seen andthe as far as uh reception on
that end, she has nailed that.
So, um, that has been really,really cool to see.
So, yeah, you don't necessarilyneed to be a fan of those

(11:41):
specific things, because I thinkthis will draw in quite a few
people.
But, um, when we talk about, uh, I guess we'll um, we'll go
back to some of those characters, eric.
So who do you have as some ofyour favorites are?
You, are we team huntrix?
Did you jump over to the sadraboys?
Who's your vote going for whenit comes to the idol awards?
Where?
Where were you leaning?

Speaker 1 (12:02):
huntrix all the way.
Baby, like, come on now, comeon now.
Not even a choice.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I'm just also gonna say, like saja boys living my
dream.
Well, actually I'll be.
I'll save that for the spoilerpart, never mind yeah, yeah, I
was like where you go, yeahnever mind um yeah, you know,
I'll say out of them.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Obviously they did a really good job fleshing out, um
, you know the the threecharacters specific.
Obviously the movie's aboutRumi, uh, so the main character,
but you know, fleshing out Miraand and Zoe uh, I think they
did a good job with that, withwith the Saja boys, like they're
cute, they're fun, but likeit's Genu.
And then there's the rest ofthem.
Like, in my opinion, therewasn't a lot of fleshing out

(12:42):
there when it came to thosecharacters.
Maybe, who knows, maybe thathappens in the future.
We'll talk about, like thefuture of this franchise, what
that could look like and whatwe'd want to see in the spoiler
section.
But yeah, I just think that allthree of the vocalists for the
main group, our main charactersof the story in Huntrix, they
were handled really well andthey were really the focus of

(13:04):
the film, like their friendshiptogether, their personalities,
how they bounced off of oneanother.
That was extremely crucial forthe ending song, which hits like
a ton of bricks in my opinion.
So I got to go with my girls.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, they are great.
We get.
You know obviously the mostabout Rumi, but they sprinkle in
just enough about Zoe and Mirato make you believe that this is
a true like lived in friendship, and you really get the idea as
well, with the stuff that theysprinkle in as far as their
backstories, that they reallyall three of them have benefited
so much from being in thisgroup and getting to be

(13:40):
themselves.
Also, let's shout out Bobby,who never became like a
stereotypical character as faras their manager, just somebody
who just supported them all theway through and through.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Really, really great character.
That was King Jong too.
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, daniel Dae Kim is in this, so there are some
names that probably you know thestandard Western audience will
recognize.
Sun Won Cho, who is pro ZD onsocial media he plays.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Abby, he was abs.
That's crazy.
Abs, saja.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, he plays Abby.
He also is like who is he?
He's also another reallyserious character in a different
anime.
So it's oh, isn't he inDelicious in Dungeon.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
That wouldn't surprise me, honestly.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, so he is in.
It's really good to see him.
I hope we get to like interviewor work with him someday at a
convention.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
But yeah, he is in delicious and dungeon yeah, okay
.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
So again, as far as, like you're not gonna get when
it comes to like essentiallyeight characters you know the
three characters in huntrix andthen five saja boys you really
can only have time to focus onone of them and of course, that
ended up being Genie.
We get, like you know, justenough comedy and humor and from
the other Saja boys, but theyweren't necessary.
We didn't need anything there,anything too extra there.

(14:54):
So there certainly arecharacters that we'll talk about
here when it comes toopportunities here in a moment
that we could have fleshed out alot more I would have liked to
see, but other than that, youknow, again, I think everybody's
going to come away from thiswith having their own favorite
character.
I'm a Zoe stan, that's my girl,all the way, but they're all
fantastic.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, no, they really are.
And man, I mean, like you know,I feel like for this movie,
this the animation kind ofspeaks for itself.
We talked a little bit aboutthat.
The one note I'll make, becauseI feel like we're tiptoeing
around what we really want totalk about and I know we're
going to probably spend a hotminute into this it's usually
the animation.
But, sticking on that topic,one of the things that the

(15:37):
director emphasized was theeffort to authentically
represent Korean identitythrough character animation, so
like mouth shapes and eye shapesthat were very korean uh, that
was brown eyes, no blue eyeshere, baby very cool.
Although the characters speakenglish, they explain the
animators made the mouth shapesthat you would only make for a
korean person, uh, with ourkorean language.

(15:59):
So, like there, there seemed tobe a lot of care and love that
came into this film andobviously it's like very much
inspired by the Spider-Versefilms.
But one of the notes here wasit's an inspiration of 2D
aesthetics, but with threedimensional language, so it's
going to have more of a boldgraphic look and those things

(16:20):
really stood out with theanimation.
They also took liberties tomake it fun, like it wasn't
realistic at all times, right,things really stood out with the
animation.
They also took liberties tomake it fun, like it wasn't
realistic at all times, right.
Like at one point one of thecharacters has popcorn running
out of their eyes, like that's acool like visual Boys can
create hearts and no onequestions it.
No one questions it.
There's a lot of stuffhappening in the backgrounds

(16:41):
that, like through edits, I'veseen that.
I didn't notice, like there'sjust Zoe edits of her acting so
great, she's so good which givesto the replayability of the
movie, and I think a lot of thathas to do with you will miss
stuff in the animation the firsttime around.
So a lot of those things froman animation standpoint are
great.
But ultimately, phil, I thinkwhat takes this movie to the

(17:02):
next level and what we're kindof skirting around is the
fucking music.
Like it is really, really good.
I think you had posted, likethey just cracked like the top
10 for spotify, like as both ofthem.
Both yeah on tricks and the sajaboys are on spotify's we're
gonna have a real idol idolawards this year at this point,

(17:25):
but the music was just so, sogood and, honestly, is the thing
that I think takes this movieto a whole different level.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, like I said, when you talk about how it's
done, I enjoy how it's done, butthen when Golden comes on,
you're like, oh shit, like thisis.
I was just thinking the otherday that, man, I have no idea,
here in the middle of June, whatmy Spotify rap is going to look
like.
Well, that's cooked, that'sdone, that is done, done, done.
Now, as of July 1st, I knowwhat's going to be at the top.

(17:59):
I guess the only question is itgoing to be is it going to be
Huntrix, or is it going to bethe Saja Boys, or will it be
Rumi and Jinu, just those twospecifically at the top?
Because it's outstanding andthey came.
You know, they were inspired bya whole bunch of different
things, which was mentioned bythe, the director over on
Twitter as far as where theinspiration came from, from

(18:21):
different K-pop groups, but also, you know, like she mentioned,
like superheroes and all theseother things, just wanting to
make a really unique identityfor Huntrix, and that really
really comes through.
So what about you, eric?
So where did you really reallybuy into this music?
Because, again, I think howit's done, how it's done really
peaks when they start to rap,like when they're jumping from

(18:41):
the plane Golden, I think issolid all the way through
giraffe, like when they'rejumping from the plane golden, I
think is solid all the waythrough.
And then again, like I said, weget soda pop.
So when did you really fullybuy into what we were listening
to?

Speaker 1 (18:50):
it's kind of weird because, like I would say, how
it's done is maybe my leastfavorite, honestly, if I'm
looking, I would agree that yeah, and I don't hate it by any
means.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
I still enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
But no, it's a fun intro, uh.
But yeah, you get like a teaserof golden.
You don't even get all ofgolden, which I think is a hit
or miss, depending on how I feelwhen I think back to it.
Like they did tease a lot ofthe songs, so I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know how I feltabout that.
I gotta maybe sit on that for aminute, but golden is 100.
Where I sat and I was like, wow,this is like really good, the

(19:23):
vocals are really good, theysound amazing and it's catchy
and and it's a really strongsong.
Soda pop is just so fun.
So like I do feel like it'sprobably golden.
That set me up.
And then soda pop is just whatlike kept me in.
So I just got, I got ready tobe lifted into the world of
k-pop and then Soda Pop just waslike the gentle pillow that I

(19:46):
landed on.
So that's that's kind of theanalogy I'll go with.
And then you know, obviously yougot Takedown, you've got your
idol.
I've really started to enjoyFree a lot the more I listen to
it, but ultimately and this isthe weird thing I was really
enjoying it until what it soundslike.
And then we again, I keepsaying a whole nother level,

(20:07):
like what it sounds like, isprobably going to overtake a lot
of songs in my Spotify wrapped.
I love that song.
I think it's a amazingcrescendo for what this movie is
trying to offer and in thataspect, when it comes to the
three of them, very effective.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, I will be punching the sky for a while
over the fact that we don't getto see what it sounds like in a
theater, and maybe that'ssomething we need to look into
where we can rent out a theaterdisplay what we want, because I
think this would have been somuch it's a very cliched thing
to say, we say it all the time Ithink this would have been so
much fun to see in a theater,even if you wanted to make a

(20:49):
whole production like havelights, you know, have, you know
, have the seats rumble orwhatever.
I think it would have been awhole lot of fun.
Ironically, I've also had a lotof Psy show up on my Instagram
reels.
I'm like I want that experience.
That's what I want to go see,uh.
So yeah, I agree with you, whatit sounds like is at the top

(21:09):
for me as well, along with free.
Whenever genu starts kind oflike getting into his flow in
that song, I was like whoa,what's happening?
I already I love roomie, butthen again, when, when that part
starts, I was like yo, what iswhat's happening right now?
I also very much love your idol.
I would probably say that'slike the next tier down.
But yeah, excellent music and,again, we are very easy to

(21:34):
please when it comes to that.
So how do you feel aboutTakedown?
I think that was actually mydaughter said that was her least
.
Actually, takedown was herleast favorite.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
I think why I like what it sounds like in Golden so
much more is that they're sodifferent from how it's done in
Takedown.
I think if you like K-pop, likeyou listen to it often.
You probably like those twosongs more than the average
person, if I was to guess,because I think Golden and what
it sounds like have a little bitmore broad appeal.
Also, I think they're juststronger from like character

(22:08):
perspectives.
Like I know the lyrics are alittle on the nose, but it's
okay sometimes.
Like this is where Disney andsome of these other companies
need to take a note when itcomes to like not only strong
female characters but charactersin general.
When they're like singing asong about a situation.
It can be on the nose with thelyrics, but there has to be like
real, genuine emotion behindthat and there needs to be a

(22:30):
buildup for some of that.
And where I think it kind ofworks for this is what I
mentioned about earlier theykind of play parts of Golden
until they play the actual songlater on.
It kind of works for Goldenbecause of the theme, but they
do the same thing for Takedown.
You hear bits and pieces ofTakedown before you actually
hear Takedown and what it'sgoing to do to the story and how

(22:53):
it's implemented, and we'lltalk about that in spoilers.
I think for Takedown that was adetriment and they probably
shouldn't have shown us whatsome of the lyrics were until it
happened.
So I think you would also, atthat point, heard it a couple of
times and that worked againstit, where for Golden, for me it
worked, uh, even though it wasdoing the same kind of plot

(23:14):
device, uh, as far as how it wasusing the music.
So those are my thoughts.
Uh, they could be completelyoff Cause.
Again, I'm not a K-pop guy, butI just would.
From what I know and what I'veheard of K-pop, I think the
themes of how it's done inTakedown are probably more for
those diehard K-pop fans thanthe general audience, who has, I

(23:34):
think, really gone more towardsthe Saja Boys and then those
two songs that I mentioned forHuntrix.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I enjoy Takedown.
I also.
I do like how they implementedit into the fights, and that's
really more so because that is achoice they had made very early
on, obviously, with how it'sdone.
So I do think that I probablyenjoyed it a little bit more
than most people.
But yeah, I thought it workedpretty well on the train
sequence as well, maybe justextend it out a little bit

(24:04):
longer, but I think that also itplays into Rumi's hesitancy to
commit to that song is mostlikely what is going on there.
But yeah, we could gush aboutthis film for quite a while, but
it doesn't mean that it'sperfect and even though both of
our scores are very high, itdoesn't mean that there weren't
opportunities.

(24:25):
So, eric, is there anythingelse you want to mention before
we head over to that side of theconversation?

Speaker 1 (24:30):
yeah, I think it's fair for the spoiler free side.
Just to know a couple thingsthat I think this movie isn't
able to accomplish,unfortunately due to its runtime
uh, at an hour 40.
Um, there are some.
There is one character by thename of selene who is not
fleshed out at all but plays apretty pivotal role towards the

(24:52):
end, and we'll talk about thisin spoilers.
But I thought that was a hugemissed opportunity to not really
delve into that.
I also think there's a lot oflike backstory stuff, that like
and world building that wedidn't quite get to.
That another 20 minutes withthis movie would have done.
And also, I will say, although Iended up buying it, I do think

(25:14):
the roomy love angle with one ofthe characters I think is a
little rushed, a little rushed.
As much as I love you knowtheir song together, I think
they're, I don't know.
I just felt like I wanted alittle bit more time to sit with
it.
I did buy in, but I would haveliked a little bit more time to
go from enemies to lovers, typething.

(25:37):
So that, without getting intotoo much, those are probably
like my main gripes with thefilm.
If I was to summarize them,phil, what about you?
Because you probably have wayless than I do.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, I have a couple .
One would definitely be Celine,like you said, and apparently
who, as far as her voice actor,who is Young Jin Kim, she is a
like big time Korean actress.
So a lot of people were kind oflike I wouldn't say upset, but
like you brought her in and youdidn't really give her.
So a lot of people were kind oflike I wouldn't say upset, but
like you brought her in and youdidn't really give her like a
lot of time.

(26:08):
So I would definitelydefinitely say that for me you
know how a here comes, take ashot a generational villain can
take, can make him film immortalto us, and while I guess, such
as puss in boots, okay okay, Ijust wanted to make sure I
didn't know where you were goingwith that.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Who has two?

Speaker 2 (26:29):
excellent villains, yes, in one film, so it's just
crazy.
So because gima is not veryfleshed out and also pretty
boring when it comes to hisdesign.
Compared to everything else inthis film, which is fantastical
and beautiful and outstanding,gima is essentially like the

(26:50):
dirty bubble in flashbots orwhen they, or when they make
galactus a cloud, yeah, or that,something like that so I don't
know if there ever was at somepoint a physical manifestation
of gima, but maybe that wouldhave been a better way to go.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
There's definitely some world building there.
That I mentioned that, I think,was a missed opportunity which,
who knows, a potential sequelcould fill that.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
And then you look a little bit more positively on
the first.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
No, there's no way but anyway, we're going to save
that for the spoiler talk.
We can go over scores.
We can go over scores.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, let's talk about scores, because we still
have quite a bit to talk aboutand discuss.
So when it comes to RottenTomatoes 97% tomato meter score
it doesn't have the certifiedfresh thing here.
I wonder why that's interesting.
89% popcorn meter score over onIMDb it has a 7.8 out of 10.
Remember, anything over sevenon IMDb means it's much better
than that.

(27:51):
And then when we head over tothe letterbox, it is holding
strong at a 3.7 out of five.
So after my first watch throughof this film, I had given it a
four.
I have since watched it threemore times.
I've watched it once again onmy own, just because it was
stuck in my head, and I had towatch it again.
I watched it again with mydaughter, sister and brother in

(28:14):
law.
They loved it and you alwaysget a sense of like.
I told you that you like KrabbyPatties, don't you Especially.
It's just a very rewardingfeeling whenever you show
somebody something and they andthey very, and you knew that
they were going to like it andthey very much did so.
And then I watched it a fourthtime while my daughter and I
were just putting together somefurniture.

(28:34):
We were like we just threw iton.
So I have it currently.
I upped it to a 4.5.
It is one of my favorite filmsof the year.
I it is one of my favoritefilms of the year.
I have to have a.
I'm going to wait until the endof the year see how I feel.
I probably did it a little tooearly.
But I have to have a discussionwith myself.
If this goes into my top 20animated films ever, because
it's just so much fun andbecause it's so much fun because

(29:00):
the characters are so good andalso the music, I think if you
remove the music for sure, thenobviously you know it's just
remove the music for sure.
Then obviously you know theyjust like a straightforward, you
know demon hunting type film.
Obviously that that removes alot of it.
But when it comes to like howit made me feel and how much I'm
still thinking about it now,that that's when I'm like is
this like one of my favoritesever, you know.
So we'll see.
We'll revisit that come end ofthe year awards and see how

(29:22):
things go.
But yeah, I gave I have it at a4.5 right now and let's see as
far as I'll go over it in asecond after your rating.
But yeah, where do you have it,eric?

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, and then let's talk about where that lands for
your films of the year.
It's got to be one or two, I'massuming, so we'll talk about
that in a minute, but I want totalk about my original rating
and then where I am now.
My original rating when Iwalked out of this because of
the problems I kind of had withsome of the plot stuff, um, I
was really thinking a three anda half is probably where it
would sit, which is a movie thatI I like, I enjoyed, and if it

(29:55):
was on, I would watch it again.
But what I found myself doingnot just because of the craze
around the movie but also my, mygenuine feelings towards the
film, despite my issues with theplot and I don't see a world
where I go higher than thisscore I think I got to bump it
up to a four, because this isalso a movie I think I would do
a watch party for, which isliterally the way I define a

(30:17):
four in my book.
So I bumped it up to a four,pretty much on a second watch.
I haven't fully watched itthrough, but I've seen enough of
it through clips and my familywatching it while I've been busy
doing some work and I'm justlike, yeah, it's a four and I
would solidify that on a secondwatch.
I'm happy with that score.
I think it could go up if thereare sequels that flesh out the

(30:43):
world a little bit more, thatmake that first film feel like a
part of something.
But just judging it off of onefilm, what they gave me uh a
four is where I landed phil, andI will throw out where it
landed for me on both myinternational feature list and
the 2025 films.
This year in internationalfeature I gave this uh a four,

(31:05):
so it's going to go up to sevenas my highest rated four, right
under a four and a half, whichis high nana at six and right
above ultraman rising and youknow I really loved ultraman
rising like slightly I wouldhonestly say ultraman rising.
Hopefully we see you again oh,it hurts, hurts my heart.
I don't even want to talk aboutit, but I will say I thought

(31:26):
they were more 1a, 1b, but I Ido think k-pop demon hunters,
because of the music, has justanother replayability factor
that ultra man rising justdoesn't.
And they're very similar.
And as far as my pain pointsaround plot for 2025 films, this
is the number five film out of18 at the moment.
Uh, right behind sinners,warfare, neja 2 and companion,

(31:49):
all also listed at a four.
So, upon a rewatch, k-pop demonhunters, as of this moment,
does have a shot to get tonumber one and I wouldn't be mad
if that's where it stayed.
I'd love to see a four and ahalf or five movie this year.
I hope that happens, but we'realready halfway through the year
.
I don't know if that's going tohappen.
I don't know if we're going toget a Godzilla minus one or a

(32:11):
Dune part two.
So, phil, where did K-pop DemonHunters land for you?
For 2025 films, and again, theinternational feature list yeah,
first for international feature.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
it has skyrocketed to number four for me, right
behind banshees of inishirin andum, in front of past lives, um,
which also all have both havefour and a half as well.
So, as far as the company it'skeeping um, it's right there.
Uh, memories of murder.
You know some films like that.
So, number four on theinternational feature list and,
yeah, number two right now on my2025 ranked list, behind

(32:47):
Sinners and in front ofCompanion.
You didn't give Sinners a five,I gave Sinners a five.
No, no I know, that's what thisepisode about.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
No, no, it's OK.
It's OK, I am going to rewatchit.
I do believe it.
I do believe on a rewatch itcould be a four and a half.
It's the vampire stuff, man,the vampire stuff is the least
interesting thing about thatfilm and it's not a problem.
No, I listen, I might feeldifferently.
It's not a problem.
I'm just saying to me it wasthe least interesting thing

(33:17):
about the film and when it takesthat turn, I just I like I
dipped a toe out.
I was like I'm still in it, buta toe did come out and I have
to acknowledge that with a four,I think upon a rewatch it could
vault to a four and a half.
But yeah, I don't believe it'sgoing to get to a five.
I would have to feelsignificantly different and
we're talking minimal.

(33:37):
If it gets to a four and a half.
There's very minimal gripesthat I'll be able to solidify a
little bit more on that, uh, onthat rewatch.
But again, one of my favoritefilms of the year loved it and I
do want to rewatch it and I,when I say I want, I will be
rewatching it to solidify thatscore.
So I am giving it a commitment.
I don't always give movies,which is that second watch

(33:58):
through Cause.
I really think it's probably afour and a half yeah, and you
know me with with thatsupernatural stuff.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
You know that has me bought in.
So three of my top five filmsare animated with k-pop nasia
and the day the earth blew up,which is that looney tunes movie
remember that we saw a randomtrailer for and we're like what
the hell was that fun time mannow also granted I mean that's a
three and a half.
So so, like after Neja, youknow there's a lot of three and

(34:27):
a halves.
I think we need to rewatchFriendship because it might go
up.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
I know it might.
I think you're touching yourcable.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, I just saw it, that's okay we might have to.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
We might have to.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Went to a subway went to a subway, the frog ripped me
off we probably yeah, weprobably need to re-watch that
man.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
We're just not gonna agree on how to train your
dragon 28 years later, man, I'vejust had such mixed feelings
since leaving the theater Idon't want to watch materialists
you knew not to yeah you knewnot to and, honestly, when
everybody was excited about thetrailer, I was like I don't know
if this looks good I justignored dakota johnson, so which

(35:17):
is also that movie isn't a lovetriangle, just so you guys know
.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
For anyone who hasn't seen materialist, it is not a,
it's barely a rom-com.
So actually it's not even comthere's.
It's not funny.
There's nothing funny inMaterialist.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
I feel bad, considering the.
This is Celine Song's secondfilm in her first one.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
I know it's kind of crazy.
That's why I was like, oh, thisis, I trust Celine and she, she
burned me well, you know whatshe probably got the bag for
doing this film.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
I would assume good for her, but I think this movie
was also very badly marketed.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Uh as 100.
Yeah, yeah, very bad.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
You just thought we have we have pedro pascal and
chris evans and, I think, peoplelike dakota johnson, so that'll
be enough I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
We're're also going to have to have a conversation
about Chris Evans soon.
Very soon, yes, outside of theAvengers and Knives Out.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
He'll be Captain America within the year, so it's
not a big deal.
He's already halfway there.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Probably next year.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
But yeah, guys, that was our episode on K-pop for the
spoiler-free portion.
We will be actively talkingspoilers, so those of you that
have been waiting patiently, getout.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
we'll get excited out and those of you that have not
seen it leave, leave, leave andcome back k-pop demon hunters
spoilers phil.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
what is the first spoiler discussion you would
like to have with this?
Because as much as we have toldeach other we've enjoyed the
movie, we've talked about themovie, the songs, songs we
haven't really discussed it.
So some of those pain points Imentioned you're hearing for the
first time, same with you.
So any spoilers you want totalk about, we kind of both
agreed on Selene, so maybe, ifwe want to start there, I think

(37:00):
that was probably the biggestmiss of the movie, because I
just don't understand why weonly see her in several
flashbacks, some of them thesame flashbacks, and then she
has to have a conversation withroomie and at this pretty, a
pretty important moment it seemslike I don't give a fuck who
that character is so like.
Maybe maybe you could tell mein a gentler way how you felt

(37:22):
about it, because it actuallymade me a little mad.
I was like this is not thecharacter we should be doing
this with yeah, because it's notlike you see them interact with
her in real time.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
It's all flashbacks.
And then, like where is thistree?
Like where, where is this area?
At how far did she have to likego, go to get there?
You know?
Um, so I have a tough time likechoosing, because if you're
going to add, if you're going toadd 15 to 20 minutes to this,

(37:55):
where would I rather have itallocated?
Celine, who I didn't reallycare about, or Genie, and I
think it would be much, muchbetter spent on Genie.
There was a scene where theywent on like an aquarium
quote-unquote date that was cutfrom the film and I believe they

(38:15):
kissed there and I am okay thatthat never happened in the film
.
Uh, it's kind of very similar toum, something we was, something
we talked about recently thatnever.
Oh, when we talked about thelast of us spoiler, like when
when joel in the tv show tellsellie I love you, like that
doesn't Joel in the TV showtells Ellie I love you, like
that doesn't happen in the gamebecause it's an unspoken, known
thing and I liked it that way.
So I would rather it be morefocused on Jinu.

(38:36):
It didn't necessarily have tobe more focused on the flashback
, but maybe just fleshing outthat character and that
relationship a little bit more,or at least a combination.
You know, 10 minutes here, 10minutes there.
You know like it's pretty easyto have not easy, I don't want
to say easy, but it's pretty umeasy to like lose track of where
that time goes.
But like, if you want toallocate it to genu, I would be
totally fine with that yeah, uh,gima could have had like a

(39:00):
flashback of like him at hisstrength just seemed like a
missed opportunity to make him acool looking villain.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
You know, like animation wise or like and again
, I'm sure they don't theydidn't make this with the
anticipation of sequels and likea franchise, but like showing
what he looked like at, like hisstrength.
I don't believe they did that.
That would have been reallycool to see that he has like
this, like, look like you know,voldemort is the back of some
guy's head and then he's justtalked about until he shows up

(39:29):
and fucks shit up and he lookscool as hell.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Something like that where, like we saw Asia too
earlier in the year.
Like there were cool designs inAsia, it would have been cool.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
So that was my main gripe.
I don't think I would havewanted to see a kiss, but a date
maybe could have helped withthe roomie uh, or the roomie
stuff and the relationship uhwith Juno I, with Genu I.
I have the biggest issue with,like I liked the twist that he

(39:59):
gave up on his family, but whenthey did it we just kind of kept
moving along and I would haveliked to know, like why do we
want to redeem this character?
Like that's a pretty shittything to do.
We kind of gloss over thatbecause we like him so much and
I guess that's not inherentlybad, because again, I fell for
it.
But like yeah, he abandoned hisfamily selfishly and it didn't

(40:23):
seem like he had to do that andI know he's suffering for that
decision and that's why he'sdoing all of this.
But is that enough to forgivesomeone?
I don't know.
I feel like there was a littlebit of a gray area there that we
didn't really explore.
That I would have found to bemore interesting to explore.
Obviously I'm wrong, because weall forgave him and we want him

(40:45):
back.
But again, what the fuck am Ieven saying?

Speaker 2 (40:48):
well, he's hot.
So what do you?
What does it matter?

Speaker 1 (40:51):
he can do anything sing his fucking ass off, man
and dance.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Very charming so philip philip gave me, gave me
this really interesting theoryshe had before they went the
romance route.
I want to share with you.
Flynn, shout out to Read it andRead Podcast, her and Jordan.
She had assumed that maybe Rumiwas the sister that he had
abandoned all that time ago andshe was part demon.

(41:17):
And then, years later, they hadremembered who each other were
and that's why the sacrificewould have been a little bit
different later.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
How would we have explained that time-wise?

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Because someone also Well, he's 400 years old.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, but why would she be?

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Because she's part demon.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
No, that doesn't make sense, because I mean she's
part demon, but there would havehad to be some aging thing
going on there.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
I guess we didn't know when she knew Well, because
Genu didn't age.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Oh well, but she would have been.
No, she was part demon frombirth.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Right, right, yeah, yeah, I'm just like.
That's just like.
Obviously there's holes in thetheory, but that's what she.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
There was like a misconception Someone had also
mentioned that he would be herdad.
When they first watched it,they thought that was it too and
I was like no, I think they.
They pretty much let you knowwe were going to get romantic
pretty quickly.
So it would have been a weirdswerve to like I don't know, go
old boy here or something, Idon't know that would have been.
Oh my god that would have beencrazy, uh, spoilers for old.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Take a shot, tell you what?
But uh, and not just because webring up old boy a lot, just
take, take a shot, thinkingabout Oldboy.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
That's one of those movies.
I think you know how we feelabout people that, like Taxi
Driver, I wonder if we are thosepeople for Oldboy, because we
know.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Well, I mean, I don't ever want to watch Oldboy again
, I know but we both rated itvery high I know I'm higher on
it than you are.
That's true.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
But yeah, no, maybe we're those people to that
audience.
Yeah, so again, interestingtheory, wrong, but interesting
theory, and I got to say thatthose were probably my two
biggest issues that I reallywanted to explain other than

(43:03):
what I said earlier.
Those are probably my twobiggest.
If you fix both of those for me, we probably get somewhere.
Like, when we talk about theworld building, we talked about
gima would have loved to see alittle bit more about, like,
what the tiger has to do withall this.
The tiger was so interesting ofa character, just like from
design to the way it acted.

(43:24):
I would have loved more of thatand the uh, the raven crow,
raven crow I.
I would have loved more of thatand the raven.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Crow, Raven Crow, I think yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Would have liked to know a little bit more about
that.
Why does the crow wear a littlehat.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
I made it for the tiger, but the bird keeps taking
it.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
I would have liked a little bit more of them to be in
it as well, and then again justa little bit more information
about the lore and some of thesethings.
Um, again, they wanted to keepsome of the mystery aspect there
.
That's perfectly fine.
I think this movie lends itselfpretty nicely to a sequel
without necessarily having to dothat, but I think they've

(43:59):
definitely opened the door.
So I want to know where yourthought, unless you have any
other things you wanted to talkabout from a spoiler perspective
.
I want to know where yourthought, unless you have any
other things you wanted to talkabout from a spoiler perspective
.
We did just talk aboutnegatives.
If there was anything from apositive you wanted to throw out
there, I mean again, what itsounds like is fantastic.
That movie, that song, makes mewant to cry.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Again, like you said, crescendo is such, you know,
that's just the way that, thebest way to explain it.
Because again, I wish so badthat we could have seen that in
theaters.
And you know there is again,take a shot, because, like that
whole ending sequence in puss inboots, the last wish is so good
.
And if you would, just if gimais a little bit more menacing
and he's not just like smoke andfire, then it, I think this

(44:39):
elevates it for me to a five.
But because, but also becauseyou know, combining that with
the music, which is alsooutstanding, and them coming
together, and then you get inthe beat drop and stuff.
I've seen DJs playing this inthe club and stuff.
It's outstanding.
So, yeah, I cannot wait to seewhere this goes.
So I don't want a sequel to thiswith these same characters,

(45:01):
because I don't want Sony orsomebody to come in or some
executive to be like you got tobring Gnu back.
Like this is a really badexample.
But remember when in WonderWoman 84, they just brought
Chris Pine back for no fuckingreason, just to have Chris Pine
in the movie.
Obviously, this is totallydifferent, but it's like you're
going to make him some forceghost.

(45:21):
I don't want it.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
No, I don't want it.
No, I'm going to push backthere because that's a horrible
example for a fucking awfulmovie.
I can't believe you're makingme think about that movie right
now.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
We rented a theater.
For it, we paid a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Stop saying that.
Don't tell people that thathappened.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
It was the only time we did it during the pandemic.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
What are those like Really quick, quick pivot?
What are those like reallyquick, quick pivot?
What are those like regretful?
There's a couple.
We went to see bruno atmidnight.
We don't like to tell peoplethat I do believe the worst
movie I've ever seen.
I do think to this day I didgive it, I think, my only half
star.
I think it's the only half starmovie I've issued on letterboxd
.
Our other regret that's anotherregret, uh, which is more

(46:02):
recent wonder woman 84 rentedout a theater for that.
What are those other likeshameful regrets that we have
that we don't tell people?
I mean, obviously I have, likeI bought Back 4 Blood for $100.
Yeah, I feel like on the spotwe can't think of too many, but
there definitely are a few wecould definitely do like a full

(46:23):
Patreon exclusive episode aboutit.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I'm sure I have.
I know I have a lot ofpurchases, regretful, but yeah,
in terms of like I can't thinkof any other.
Those are the two cinematicexperiences where we're like why
did we do that?
Yeah, at very different timesin our lives, dude one where we
should have been way more waymore responsible at the like the
, the wonder woman part, yeah,yeah, and the bruno thing you
could kind of like serve that upto us being.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
We had just seen One where we should have been way
more responsible at the WonderWoman part.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
And the Bruno thing.
You can kind of like serve thatup to us.
Being young.
We had just seen Borat.
We had just seen Borat for thefirst time.
So we were like, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
And it was around the spinning dick that I was like
this is the same movie.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
People actively walked out of that film and we
should have followed suit.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
We were like frozen in our seats.
But anyway, anyway, let's, uh,let's get back on track.
Uh, I hate to tell you, uh,he's coming back and like it's
also not even like, it's alsonot even like hidden.
Very well, as far as, likethey're telling you he's coming
back, I think the mythology andthe supernaturalness of this
world lends itself for him.

(47:24):
I mean, I guess you got tobring all the the.
I don't want all the sadja boysto come back, unless they're
going to get fleshed out.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
So like, maybe just bring him back, but oh yeah I
don't know, I say bring them allback there is a scene when they
go visit the doctor where hehad.
There they focus on a photowith the doctor and four idol
k-pop idols, and the theory isthat those are the Saja boys,
and they also came into somesort of agreement, of course,
with Gima.
So they do plant that A littlebit and, yeah, like you said, as

(47:55):
far as the supernatural aspectof it, it does lend itself to
just coming back.
But yeah, I'll revert to this,this comment from Instagram that
Maggie Kang commented on andsubtweeted on Twitter.
It says when you realize that'sthe life we live in, by the way
, here's an Instagram commentthat was retweeted on Twitter.
I'm going to or we live in asimulation.

(48:18):
The comment says when yourealize Rumi was probably
Talking about, genu Was probablyhis first, last and greatest
love.
She was the only thing that madehim realize he could be
selfless.
His guilt and shame for beingselfish punished him for 400
years.
His death wasn't just hisfreedom.
For the first time in his life,he got the chance to be
selfless.
He sacrificed himself to saveher and the world.

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He saved the world without thesoul that he thought was his
greatest misery.
He's finally free and she washis freedom.
And then she commented did theywrite our movie?
So yeah, I mean, obviously, myfirst thing here is I don't want
him to come back and I don'tthink that these specific
characters should be in a sequel.

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If you want to explore thisworld out, maybe with different
characters, I'm totally down forthat.
What I definitely don't want tohappen is in two years there's
a Netflix TV show and theanimation is budget is one third
of what we get here, and that'swhat really scares me.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
I'm not interested in that.
I'm interested in a sequel withthese characters.
I think that it's ripe for thetaking.
I think they can make it work.
I think there's more to tell inthis story.
I think they left it up.
I want to see more of thesecharacters.
I don't know that you can havea K-pop Demon Hunters movie
where you like spin off to a newset of K-pop artists without

(49:34):
acknowledging the other K-popartists within that world, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Could this be like a Charlie's?

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Angels kind of thing where there's new characters
every once in a while Maybe, butI just don't think there's the
same type of money in that, andI also think you have developed
something really special withthis set of characters with your
audience.
So I feel like you have tocapitalize on that.
In my opinion.
I think you definitely do.
I would love to see more withthese girls.

(50:02):
Again, I would have loved tosee another 20 minutes to this
film, so that should let youknow I'm itching to see more,
just in general, with thisparticular story and this
particular set of characters.
So that's kind of where I stand.
I think you're coming more froma place of you don't want them
to fuck it up, which is totallyrespectable, but I think deep
down, you also would enjoy andwant to see another version of

(50:24):
this done very well, just likeeverybody else would.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
So do you want to see the Saja boys do their military
, their military stint?
Is that what you're saying?
No, that's not exactly what I'msaying Also side note if these
characters come to Fortnite, I'mbuying all three.
Give me Genu, give me Derpy asa, as a glider.
I want, I want it all.
I'll spend stupid amounts ofmoney, Just like I'm going to

(50:49):
spend stupid amounts of money onwhatever we find at Infinity
Con here in a couple.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Yeah, no, I mean, listen man, netflix has to
really strike on this one.
They have dropped the ball on alot of different, especially
with animation.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Nimona.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Nimona, but they dropped the ball on a lot.
But like I don't know, this oneis different man, this one is
like this is one of the academyAcknowledge them.
Listen, this is one of thosemovies that comes out for like a
Netflix, and it's different.
It just hit different.
They tend to capitalize onthese type of global phenomenon

(51:27):
hits where like again, I enjoyedultra man rising yeah, I
enjoyed ultra man rising notwide appeal.
There again, they basicallyshadow dropped that on netflix.
It also felt like I think thatwas something we said when the
episode came out.
It did, I think, pretty welllike, but I obviously not,
because they're probably notgoing to do a sequel to that.

(51:49):
So it wasn't anywhere near this.
Obviously it had a little bitof buzz.
This movie I mean the wholeworld is talking about it, it
feels like.
So netflix typicallycapitalizes on those and I think
they're going to do that herejust because, again, it's I'm
gonna assume, safely a moneymaker for them and at the end of
the day, that's their bottomline.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
So they gotta release this thing in theaters, man.
They gotta do a theater run, atheatrical run with this, maybe,
maybe over the holidays, to getpeople talking about it again.
I think it would be a really,really smart idea.
Although when is the demonhunter movie come out?
I mean demon hunter, demonHunter, demon.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Slayer Demon Slayer is within the next couple months
here.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Okay, I wouldn't want to compete with.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Demon Slayer.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
I need to do a video on that because that fucking
trailer dude.
Holy shit, I started watching Iwas like, oh, I can't watch
this.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Dude, this movie is going to make so much money.
I mean you could, you could.
I mean it's just going to giveyou an idea of who's going to be
fighting in the movie.
You also don't really knowwhat's happening actually, now
that I know, I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Because, yeah, because I accidentally started
watching season five.
I was like who the fuck arethese people?
So, anyway, but one of thefunniest things I saw because,
again, the Academy tweeted aboutthis and somebody subtweeted
and was like, oh, we found amovie that the Academy Great

(53:15):
about this.
And somebody subtweeted and waslike, oh, we found a movie that
the academy great awesome.
So I swear to god, if there issome sort of fucking flow movie
that comes out this year andsteals best animated picture
from this movie, I will riot, Iwill be so mad.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Well, hold on.
So let's talk about it right,because I don't know if they're
going to nominate it, but Neja 2and K-Pop right now are the
frontrunners right, that's right, so would they give it to K-Pop
over Neja.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
I think the Looney Tunes movie will be nominated as
well.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Yeah, but that's like a they have a spot to fill type
of movie.
Respectfully, Respectfully.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
No, no, I agree.
I agree, I agree I just thinkit's going to get a nomination.
It's very, it's very well andit's it's a great animation.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Too well they put it's a lot of fun, but I do
think it will get what?

Speaker 2 (53:51):
because it's Looney Tunes?
I don't think so.
No, no, because the thing aboutNetflix is also, they're
dropping animated movies all thetime.
They just don't tell you.
If you open up Netflix andyou're like, oh shit, what is
this?
Looks, looks kind of cool.
So what is there?
Another big-time animated moviecoming out in 2025, another
Disney film?
I don't think so right.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
I'm trying to animated films 2025 bad guys 2
is coming out, um, so I mean, ifthat movie actually turns out
to be good, animation wise ohshit is.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Is the predator movie gonna be?

Speaker 1 (54:23):
eligible.
I mean, it was an animation, sothey're doing it.
They did an animation that justcame out on Hulu, and then they
are doing the theatrical live.
So yeah, I mean that could beInteresting.
That doesn't seem like a moviethat would make a lot of push.
They're not going to give it toI mean, they're not going to do
it to Demon Slayer.
I don't think they would evenconsider that no would even

(54:48):
consider that no, probably not.
Not chainsaw man, uh, elio,elio might get it because of the
pixar push.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
But it's not gonna win.
I think it'll get nominated.
Maybe even some of those, evensome of those other films from
the past disney years havegotten nominated that we didn't
like yeah, k-pop demon hunterswinning would be nuts yeah
because nomona was nominated for.
So they have skin in the gamewhen it comes to Netflix and
animated films.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
So yeah, predator, killer of Killers would probably
count.
I don't think that's it thatgood, yeah, I think, I think
those are probably, I think, forthe rest, of the year, bringing
Rihanna out of retirement whendoes Oscar end?
Because Zootopia 2 comes outend of November.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Shit, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
That's what it's going to be right.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Swear to God.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
They love giving it to Disney.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
And Zootopia because it's about racism.
Oh, the Lions was black people.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Love doing that.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Yeah, I don't.
The oscars are held in march.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
November's tough man that movie's gonna be any good.
Oh, the general entry and bestpicture submission deadline is
thursday, november 14th.
I think zootopia will miss thatokay, the 26th, yeah,
preliminary voting beginsdecember 9th.
Through the 13th Nominationvoting is January 8th.
So, yeah, I think it's going tobarely miss that.
I mean, it has a shotregardless, but if Zootopia is

(56:14):
not in it and Nasia doesn't getnominated cause I don't know if
it got, I can't remember if itgot nominated last time I think
it will, though.
Yeah, it's going to be tough.
It's going to be tough.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Well, clearly there was a lot to talk about.
Yeah, Because this film isagain taking the world by storm,
Not just US audiences or Koreanaudiences.
Everybody is doing the dances,singing the songs.
My daughter went on TikTokimmediately and made an edit
about Jinwoo and Rumi Makessense.
That did numbers, so it isoutstanding.

(56:49):
If you are still here for somereason and you didn't watch the
movie, please go watch it rightaway.
But those of you that stuckaround and you're part of the
Huntrix tribe, did they have athing?
Because you know, obviouslythere's like the, there's the
army and then, like other people, what did Huntrix haverix have
a thing?
The Saja Boys were the prideWas.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Huntrix.
Wasn't it on the shirt.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
I know their logo is the four-sided thing.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Yeah, I could have sworn they had something on the
shirt I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
I love you.
Huntrix, that's who I'm goingto cosplay as, by the way, the
guy that just rips off his shirtand has a Huntrix t-shirt on.
I thought you meant that youwere going to get the Huntrix
tattoo.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Maybe, but yeah, no, I think we're ready to wrap this
one up.
This was a great episode.
Again, shout out to Phil forreally pushing this one, and you
know we talked a lot about why,even though this is not really
a film that needed to befeatured and also technically
not an international film as faras the you know, uh, sony

(57:51):
pictures release, there was alot that fit what we like to do
in this episode and ultimately,I mean like we want to talk
about movies that we reallyenjoyed.
And I gotta say, phil, you knowthe last couple episodes the
girl who leapt through time weenjoyed.
It had some issues with it.
I'm still here.
Same thing.
The first slam dunk, probably astep back.
So it was nice to get into amovie that you know we really

(58:13):
enjoyed because we have perfectdays to start the year Amelia
Perez which we don't really haveto say much there.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
I don't have to talk about that.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
See, yeah, between this and Naysha, these have been
like the highlights of the yearand I'm glad that we were able
to feature them on the podcastbecause, again, we were going to
talk about it anyway and, forthose of you that for some
reason didn't watch it, it wasalso for you to to understand.
Like, if you trust our, ourtake on this, you're missing out
, like you really should checkout this movie and it's it's not
one to miss 100%.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
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I don't know where all our moneyis going, because they don't
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