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August 10, 2026 • 57 mins

Kristyn Carriere went from running taste panels at Cadbury and formulating for Godiva to founding her own Canadian chocolate brand. This is what happens when a real food scientist decides to build a CPG company.

On this episode, Kristyn Carriere of Seven Summit Snacks joins Phil and Kenny to talk about turning deep R&D experience into a grab-and-go energy chocolate — and why a big-company background changes how you launch.

We get into the science of chocolate (conching, flavour optimization, why the same bar tastes different in five countries), the consumer-led product development that got the recipe right in three tries instead of hundreds, and the packaging and branding choices that help the bar stand out in two of the most saturated aisles in the store. Kristyn also shares the deeply personal story that gave the brand its name and brought her back home to Canada.

There's a real lesson in here for founders: making something in your kitchen is one thing — knowing the industry, the iterations, and the science behind market fit is what actually moves a brand forward.

Find Seven Summit Snacks at https://sevensummitssnacks.com/, on Amazon, and in retailers like Running Room, MEC, and Community Natural Foods.

In this episode:

  • From Disney on Ice to food science to global chocolate R&D
  • Inside Cadbury and Godiva: how big chocolate really formulates
  • The origin of Seven Summit Snacks and the story behind the name
  • Consumer-led development: nailing the recipe in three tries
  • Building for two customer types — online buyers vs. in-store shoppers
  • Winning the aisle with packaging, iconography, and clean ingredients

A big thank you to CHFA for sponsoring This Commerce Life. CHFA is the voice of Canada's natural health and organic products industry, and their trade shows are where the best emerging brands and buyers connect.

Heading to Toronto? Sign up for CHFA East and be part of it: https://www.chfanow.ca/toronto

🎧 Listen on Spotify & Apple Podcasts. Learn more at https://sevensummitssnacks.com/

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