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Ever wondered what it's like to pour your soul into music, only to face the daunting wall of writer's block? Tatiana (@ByNatalieeee), a phenomenal New artist & our Special Guest, joins us to unravel her own musical odyssey, discussing the raw authenticity in penning lyrics that resonate with the soul. We laugh, reminisce, and dig into the heartfelt journey of creating music that speaks to the experiences we all face—betrayal, self-worth, love & the pursuit of artistic fulfillment.

Navigating the intricate maze of human emotions, the conversation shifts to the turbulent waters of infidelity & the complexities that ensue. Tatiana's latest track becomes the backdrop for an animated debate on the consequences of betrayal and the temptation of revenge. While dissecting the themes of her song, we interlace threads of personal stories, challenge the portrayal of women in media, & of course, keep spirits high with a friendly roast about our middle names—proving that even in the depths of discussion, our bond of friendship remains unshakable.

As we draw the curtains on this chapter of Timeless Talk, Our banter takes a turn down memory lane, sharing tales of military drills, school electives, & the diversity that each of us brings to the table. Closing out the season, we leave you with a glimpse into the creative edges we intend to push and the promise of more relatable, engaging content when we return. So, tune in, get comfortable (like we did with our new chairs), and join us for a finale that's bound to linger in your thoughts long after the last note fades.


-SpecialGuest: Tatiana (@ByNatalieeee)


*Interview with Tatiana on Music Passion
*#Leave It in - Timeless Talk
*Musical Analysis & Feedback
*Musical Inspirations & Future Projects
*Timeless Talk Podcast & Clothing Line
*Military Experience & School Electives
*Music Exploration & Critique
*Music Promotion & Podcast Plans


*Intro Beat Credit: Memnoc (Picasso)*
*Outro Song Credit: Tatiana (@ByNatalieeee)*

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
You don't want to fuck with us.
You don't want to fuck with us.
You don't want to fuck with us.
You don't want to fuck with us.
And welcome back to theconversation that never ends.

(00:34):
This is Timeless Talk.
I'm your host, aj, and yeah,we're back for another finale
episode of Timeless Talk.
Yeah, we're in the living roomwith an audience, apparently,
huh Nah, nah.
As you guys can see, you knowwe have no furious today, but we

(00:55):
do have a lovely guest with us.
We're going to get to herintroduction in a second, but
over here, you know, before theintro, I should probably just
make it known that we obviouslytried something different today.
Clearly, we're not at a table.
We're not at the traditionaltimeless talk table with the
backdrop, as you guys are usedto.
Instead, we gotta.
This is probably gonna be theset for season, for season five,
right, yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
for at least one of the sets for most of the
episodes, yeah yeah yeah if youif you guys see me groping this
chair.
Uh, promise you, it's nothingpersonal, it's just oh fuck it's
comfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
So there it is.
I said it.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
You didn't say it, you didn't wait, you didn't wait
for intros or nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
You gotta, I'm already doing it, so okay, well
this.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Over there to my far right, usually on my direct
right we have slideshow, did you?
Did you want to include her inthat, or did you want to?
Just, she's not going to dothat stupid shit, even though
she's like what.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
I'm just looking back and forth.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
She's lost right now she doesn't know what the fuck
we're talking about.
Alright, so let's get into ourguest now here, alright, guys.
So over here, directly to myright, we have the lovely
Tatiana.
Yeah, thanks for being herewith us today, girl, appreciate
you, thanks.
Yeah.
So, uh, having me?
No, of course, absolutely we'rehappy to have you here.
You know it's time to stockthis new set.
You get to experience the newset for everybody else.

(02:15):
So, hell yeah, you know we'rehappy you're here to experience
that.
And it's the season, it's theseason four finale too.
So yeah, you got big to weargirl.
This is something that you gotto fill them out bro.
You got to have them.
Like we believe, we chose theright person for the job.
You know what I mean, you don'tknow this about her, but this

(02:35):
is a music-based episode.
We've done a few of those thisseason already.
You're an artist, right?
You sing.
Yeah, I sing, I sing and songwrite you're an artist, right,
you sing, or, yeah, I sing, Ising and song right, that's
right.
So she writes her own songs.
No, ghost writer over here onthis couch?
Nope, you don't play that game,right, that's good.
I like that.
You write your own stuff.
That's dope, and I feel likeI'm not trying to put shade at
those that get help, but I feellike when you don't write your

(02:55):
own stuff, it's just different.
You know what I mean, I don'tknow.
It's not the same no, I get you.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
You know what I mean, like I'm not saying it takes
from them.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
I just feel like it's more.
You can connect more when aperson's actually writing from
their soul.
You know what I mean, insteadof having someone just kind of
paint a picture for you exactly.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
It's one of their stories, so they're like
connecting it exactly and that'swhat I appreciate.
So you know hey kudos to you.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
We get flowers out on this show.
You know I'm saying we have nohope back.
Yeah, yeah, it's time to startall right, before we get into
more, more detail.
But we're gonna this first partof the episode we're just gonna
have like a small little brief.
You know, get to know you alittle bit, right so the
audience, the viewers, and theaudience and the listeners.
Can, you know, get to know youa little?

Speaker 2 (03:31):
better as the artist.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
All right.
So, tatiana, I'm gonna startwith the questions.
So this what about you?
So let's start with that first.
What?
What makes you passionate aboutmusic?

Speaker 4 (03:40):
what makes me passionate about music yes the
passion really just comes from,like the feeling of doing it.
So like, okay, I'll say, when Iactually got into that studio I
was like the happiest I've everbeen, wow, yeah you just kind
of felt at home yeah, and it waslike easy.
It didn't.
It was not a job, it was justtruly something I enjoyed doing

(04:04):
that part it makes me happy,that's good that's.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
That's rare, because nowadays people don't feel that
way.
They go to work.
They dread it like fuck thisplace, this is not my, so you
obviously want that to be.
That pays your bills one day,right that's the goal, oh yeah
of course, okay, do you?
Do you ever have like writingblocks?
You always write writer's block.
Do you want to be?
What do you look for forinspiration?
When that happens, what's yourprocess?

Speaker 4 (04:28):
So that actually did happen to me like not too long
ago.
I would say, like three weeksago I did have like writer's
block Because I was trying tolike really just sit there
Because I write my stuff likeold school, so like I have my
journal so on a paper, I'm likewriting down stuff, um.
But yeah, I just couldn't forthe life of me just figure
anything out.

(04:49):
I would listen to this onetrack that I got and nothing
would come into my brain.
So, oh wow I I was driving homeone day, I was listening to
lucky day, like a bunch of justrandom songs from him, and all
of a sudden I was just hit withinspiration and I ended up
writing a full-on song.

(05:09):
So that's in the works rightnow.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Okay, oh yeah, and that just came organically.
I like that you just say youwere just in the car and then it
just came to you like this isit?

Speaker 4 (05:18):
I know what I'm gonna write yeah, I was just, I was
in the car driving, I was justlike singing out, like melodies
oh, wow that's all I was doingand then she just came to you,
naturally it just came to me.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Is it ever like do you feel like you had in that
moment you need to pull over andlike write this shit down
before you forget?
Or?

Speaker 4 (05:36):
is it like?
What I do is I carry two phones.
One phone is not in service, soI just use it for voice memos.
So whenever that happens, Ijust record myself.
Oh, wow, yeah, smart, I recordmyself, I like it.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
It's just vocally, get it down for you so you can
relate to it.
You kind of know the cadenceyou want to go with, how the
sound is Because you usuallyforget later on.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
That's what I'm saying, I do.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
That's what I'm saying.
To do that too, because nowyou're just you're making sure
that you, you cover that bass,and you don't forget what you
were trying to same rhythm.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I like that exactly.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
That's smart, yeah that second phone is not.
It's not.
It's not a burner phone, it'sit's a notes phone.
Okay, she had to make sure thatwas clear.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
I like how you squeeze that in there last time
I told somebody that they werelike oh, that's your burner I
was like I was thinking it too.
It ain't because that shit isnot in service.
I only use it for voice memosand that's it, like I ain't
gonna play around.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
I just heard I got two phones and I was like that
just started playing in my headthat was on replay.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Is that right now?

Speaker 1 (06:36):
he's like I got two so I like how you just be
letting it.
That was funny, but no, it wascool though.
Like you made it clear like hey, you know, this is what I use
it for, so don't be thinkingshit, assuming shit.
That's what it is, that's cool.
I like your process though.
I respect it.
That's dope, um.
So my.
My next question, too, is Ihave all these written down in
my head already.
I actually wrote them down inmy notes, but I want to sit here
and be like this the whole timewhen you get there.

(06:57):
Eventually, when you write analbum, do you want it to be like
beginning to an end, or do youwant each song to have its own
identity?

Speaker 4 (07:02):
I feel like once I get to that point, it's just
whatever I'm feeling at thattime.
So I don't want to just be like, okay, I just want a story from
beginning to end, but then I'mfeeling like, oh no, I feel like
each song actually sounds likebeautifully individually yeah,
that's something that could bebeautiful too.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
You can have a whole collection of sound that just
has its own.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, you know, it's whatever, whatever it is at the
moment, okay, so whatever itflows with you, right?

Speaker 1 (07:27):
okay, so let's try that.
That moves me into my nextquestion of the single you just
dropped right.
Is it out now?
It's out there where can I findit?

Speaker 4 (07:33):
you can find it anywhere youtube, apple music,
spotify, just anywhere you canstream yourself okay, are you
willing to play for it us here?
Yeah, for the first time.
Yeah, at least she had anoption.
Let's sync you up this guy.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
She didn't have an option, bro, I wasn't going to
afford it.
You're playing your fuckingsong today, right, that's right.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Like imagine I talk to her like that.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
She's like, okay, play my stuff.
She's like play my shit.
Damn, you know what I'm saying.
So we're trying to promote yourshit.
Yeah, of course.
So I'm gonna have you uh, linkup real quick your bluetooth, if
you don't mind.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Okay, cool, so we're now paired to tati's phone, or
did I say that right, tatiana?

Speaker 1 (08:15):
yeah, tatiana, it says tati, though, for sure.
Oh yeah, you know, that's yeahand that's.
I'm using an accent, y'all.
I'm not saying thotty.
Okay, there's a difference.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
We're not saying that the amount of times I've heard
that blue face off yeah, everytime I tell somebody oh, I'm
tatiana that's all they evertell me about I'm just like all
right cool they had to getratchet with you why?

Speaker 1 (08:39):
maybe it's my personality maybe it is, but you
don't come out.
Ratchet most definitely.
I like your energy I like yourenergy, but I'm not gonna say
you're, I'm gonna call you allthat though no, I don't please.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Damn, that's like what why you say um no, I said,
I said wow this guy can't withyou bro damn, I'm just here for
sound effects.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Shut the hell up, man you ain't here for more than
that man.
You funny bro.
But anyway, I didn't call youTatiana.
But Tatiana, we're gonna hearyour song.
Now that you're linked up tothe Blue Coup, we'll just let
you play it through.
We'll vibe with it, we'lllisten to it and me and
Slideshow Will give you ourthoughts.
Is that cool?

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, alright, let's do it All.
Right, let's go, woo Woo.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Woo Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo,
woo, woo Woo Woo Woo Woo, woo,woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo,
woo Woo Woo.
Right when you're right besideme.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I guess it's time Tell another lie.
I sleep behind all the shit youtell me.
Is she on your mind when you'reright?
When you're right beside me?
Bitches on your side.
They was touching gold.
Told me you was fucking, butyou were that other hoe fuck

(10:21):
what you did.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
I guess I'll fuck your friend.
Ay Yay Yo, that's spiteful, lowkey.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Like.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Like what you did, I guess I'll fuck your friend I
was like damn, I didn't get tothat last part.
Until just now, I didn't get tothat Until just now.
Hey, would you actually Do thatthough?

Speaker 4 (10:43):
No, the fuck she's like.
She said no.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Girl, live your truth , what you mean Live your truth.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
What did we say at the beginning?
We both.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Okay, yeah, that's right.
Yeah, we did.
We did say that.
What did we?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
say he already forgot .

Speaker 3 (10:59):
He did.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Did you forget?

Speaker 1 (11:07):
what?
No, y'all talking about leaveit in, or what no, what y'all
talking about lying?

Speaker 4 (11:09):
we both lying, bro, I didn't forget.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
No, I didn't you know , I didn't forget.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Come on, bro I just wanted her to say it to you
because you know you weren'tpaying attention.
We're gonna hashtag, leave itin, obviously, but no, you know
what I'm saying.
Like she's lying, bro.
She did that for that.
That's for, that's for the song.
I get it, okay.
Yeah, I'm glad you don't carryyourself like that, because that
would devalue you, so don't dothat, that's crazy.
You're a flower, stay that way.
You know what I'm saying.
Come on, we've had somequestionable.

(11:32):
I don't want to say flowers onthe show before it's too soon.
It's too soon, bro, right onthe open case you gotta, you
gotta yeah, no judgment to howany girl cherishes their flower,
but you know that's an opencase.
That is an open case,absolutely.
We're not gonna say no names,but anyway, moving on you guys

(11:52):
check out the video, by the way.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Oh, there's a music video.
Please, please, yeah, well, youknow what?
Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
I recorded a b-roll for it and the mighty oh yeah.
Ryan slideshow.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
So let's say it again unless you don't care, I don't
care look up his name, guys.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
He put his whole government out there Ryan Pitts
is it Alonzo Andrew Farinas?
Fuck out of here your middlename is Alonzo.
No, alonzo, fuck out of hereyour middle name is Alonzo, no
Alonzo.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Wait, what's your full name?

Speaker 3 (12:31):
You just chose the most stereotypical black nigga
name in the.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
AV.
No, no, no, I could have saidTyrone.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
I could have went worse with it.
I could have said Ryan TyronePitts Yo, I could have went
worse with it.
I could have said Ryan TyronePitts, yo, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
This is time to talk that was crazy.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
I'm done Fatality.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Finish him.
Okay, I'm done.
Fatality.
You know what I'm just kidding,bro.
Hey, we're on a beef, bro.
This ain't Kendrick and J Cole,bro come on, we can start doing
diss tracks bro.
I'm just fucking with you, man,I'm gonna get JJ real quick go
get his ass.
I don't care, I'll diss hisbitch ass too.
I'm just kidding, I'm okay.

(13:15):
Nah, I'm just fucking with you,bro.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
I love y'all you know , I got love for y'all man this
nigga really said Tyrone we puteach other's.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
We can't.
We gotta leave it in brohashtag.
Leave it in.
I'm sorry, bro, where did youget Alonzo from?
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
I thought it was I really.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
I said that shit confidently yeah, what is it bro
?
I'm sorry.
No, I can't say it cause.
Now it's embarrassing no, Iwant you to say it.
No, say it, bro.
What's yours, mine's, john, bro, I'm proud of mine, damn.
Yeah, my dad's first namebrother is my middle name, mine
is Emmanuel.
That's dope.
What you mean that means, isn'tthat God's name bro?

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Jesus' name right?
Isn't that in the Bible, isn'tit?

Speaker 3 (13:56):
It don't suit a brother though.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Ryan Emmanuel.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
That sounds better because I be having people right
.
We'll name him again.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Alright, fuck it.
She's right, tatiana.
Just you know what, bro?
It's Ryan Alonzo Pitts.
Right, fuck you if it is yeah,ryan.
Alonzo Pitts in the house.
Let's go, baby.
I'll give you the horns too,bro.
I responded to it.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
You did where the horns at nigga trying to where
the hordes at nigga trying towhere the hordes at this.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
That cool Tequinte we got Ryan Alonzo Pitts in the
house right now you trying to dothat.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Your name is Toby, kind of thing.
Nigga, oh shit okay, we're done.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
We're sorry, man, let's get back to this topic.
Y'all pray for this, nigga.
It's timeless talk.
Wait.
Why, bro?
Huh'all pray for this?
Nigga, it's timeless talk.
Wait, why, bro?
Oh, oh, he said pray for me.
Why y'all pray for this?

Speaker 3 (14:48):
nigga.
Why huh you need?
Because you need help why?

Speaker 1 (14:53):
because I called you alonzo yeah, why stereotypical
all?
Right, my bad, he's ryanemmanuel pits I'll be having.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
I mean that's not, that's really no better, because
I have people walking around,no that that feel like that
flows better, though, thanAlonzo Pitts.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Look at Alonzo.
I still don't know where yougot that from hey, bro, he's
hard bro.
Denzel Washington bro trainingday.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
I don't know why that his name is Alonzo.
What you mean?
Does it sound too?

Speaker 1 (15:23):
hood, it sounds ratchet, alonzo.
Alonzo, what you mean?
I'm sorry, bro, does it soundtoo hood like it's too?
It's too like it sound it soundratchet alonzo it kind of does
uh sound like a man that onlylived to be 18.
All right, let's get back totatiana's track.
Bro lives to 18.
So that's the song, right?
Our initial reaction.
I'm sure you heard it firstbecause he was in the b-roll,
right?
yeah so, um, what I got from thesong.

(15:45):
It's like a woman that wasscorned, maybe, or hurt, right.
It's like did she find out shegot cheated on and she's just
like bitter now.
So she's like I'm gonna go fuckthis dude's homie now instead,
just like get back it's like youknow how a lot of guys nowadays
have their sneaky links what doyou mean?

Speaker 4 (16:00):
the sneak like like the side okay, the side piece
yeah yeah, so that's like abitch.
I know what you're doing, likeI'm not stupid, so fuck you can?

Speaker 1 (16:11):
can females just tell ?
Do you guys just know like theenergy is off and you can just
sense it?
Oh, fuck, yeah, okay yeahbecause obviously you know
you're mad.
You know if he's being loyal toyou or man did that.
Did that derive from a personalexperience of yours, if you're
willing to share that or was?
That actually okay, that's good.
You just, you just see ithappening around you yeah, and
you wrote, basically wrote astory you wrote a story about it

(16:32):
.
That's cool.
I like that.
Well, I'm happy to hear itdidn't happen to you personally.
That's great.
Good to know, um, but I likethat you're shedding light on a
real thing that happens thoughhell yeah what.
So what's your stance on it,though?
Do you feel like that's theright revenge, like I'll just
fuck your friend then and besquare?
Do you agree with that idea, oryou're saying that that's or
that's toxic too, and you'relike hey this is toxic too, you

(16:54):
know it's the intrusive thoughtsyou want to let out okay,
that's fair.
So also, it might not evenreally be an action.
It's kind of just like now Iwant to fuck your friend because
what you did to me is making mespiteful, but I might not
actually do it okay that's fairyou're just kind of putting the
light on.
That's cool.
I liked it all right, whatabout you slideshow?
What were your, what were yourthoughts on the track when you
first heard it?
Yeah, actually, yeah, I did.

(17:17):
Damn bro, he had to wait for asecond I had to remember.
I had to remember the steps,that how everything played out
Actually when I heard the song,I actually didn't expect her to
know how to sing as good as shedid.
Oh damn.
No, I didn't say you couldn'tsing which?

Speaker 3 (17:37):
the vocals sounded good, by the way, thank you.
No, it did sound good and youknew that.
I told you that the night Ilistened to it.
But I I love like sentimental,if you'd say it in that you know
form.
I love sentimental rhythm.
So when I heard that, I waskind of like yeah, it's kind of
gives kind of sad vibes.
I like that.
I like the sad vibes kind of,yeah, and you know, yeah, the
whole revenge thing and you knowbecause with the storyline she

(17:59):
was trying to tell, yeah.
So I was like, oh, that thatkind of um, the little
sentimental, soft rhythm, plus,like you know, you feel her pain
from what she's saying in themusic.
It kind of like it.
Somehow it doesn't put outnegative energy.
It's still like, okay, you know, we're okay, even though you
know I'm hurting.
I'm still okay.
You know I'm gonna get, I'mgonna do this back to you, but I

(18:19):
really liked it.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I liked it yeah, it was short but sweet.
Does it make sense, like I'mgonna?

Speaker 3 (18:24):
to you.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I wish it was a little bit longer.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
personally, how many times have you wished it was a
little bit longer?
How many times have you?
I was the first person to tellher that.
I was like fuck, it's overalready.
No, I was like yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
So many people have told me that that honestly
there's over already.
I didn't want to critique itthat way, but I want to be
honest with you.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
No, it was all good, you know.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, girl, she's only heard that like a million
times.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Everybody.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Well then you know what?

Speaker 1 (18:48):
then, girl, you just take this as the confirmation
that it is.
You know what I'm?

Speaker 4 (18:51):
saying Well, the reason it was so short is
because, honestly, when I gotinto the studio just me and my
friends I like that.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
It's organic though yeah, and so in eight hours.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
That's what we were able to come up with.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Wow, and I was like okay that's pretty good, though
from scratch, yeah, nothingright I was like that's the
intro to me.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yeah, that's now.
You guys can hear who I am.
It may not like show like myvocal capabilities, but it shows
you who I am and it's leavingthem want more exactly, which is
good too.
So that's good.
Good for good on you, girl bro.
You know how many timescapabilities, but it shows you
who I am.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
And it's leaving them wanting more.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Exactly, which is good too.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
So that's good.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Good on you, girl Bro , you know how many times, maybe
two or three, but I was juststanding beside her and like
literally what you just said,like I've heard just people,
just I'm like I already knowwhat they're about to songs, so
you had to kind of expect it.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
I just wish it was a little longer.
Yeah, I told her that that'sreally my only gripe with it.
My only negative thing reallywould be that.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
It's short, don't worry, it's going to be longer.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
No, that's good, that's cool, so now you can
release it as the extended iscoming, but this is almost like
a.
I have to ask this too, becauseI have only seen the clips that
were posted online.
Is the only appearance he makethe back of his head?
It really is, oh my God.
Well, if you think no, yes.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
I love it.
Did your side profile come outin the one where I was getting
off the sofa.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Because you were like your hands, kind of like just
went out.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
But they like.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
It was quick.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
It was quick.
No, it was quick, but I had todo it.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I'm sorry, I love you , bro Nah it was quick.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Hey, your fade was on point though.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Thank God my boy got a haircut before he did that
shot.
He was in my point, I was inthere.
I was in there, fade it up, myboy.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Hey that I was in there.
I was playing.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Fade it up my boy.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I was playing.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
That means, you stay fresh.
You see, my boy knows he knowsalready.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Hey, what can I say?

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, we never roast each other this much.
I don't know what it is.
I think you bring that energygirl First.
We're talking about you, know,song disses no, that's y'all.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
And then she's like nervous or like scared.
I just kind of let myself outdid you good, I'm glad, yeah,
see.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
So you brought the energy with you.
Now we're over here, that.
And then we talked about disstracks.
And then now we're in your set,your music, so low-key, it kind
of ties in well because you'relike man, and then especially
the last part where you're likeI'm gonna fuck, I'm gonna fuck
your friend, then it's like it'slow-key, a diss track in itself
that wasn't't going to be partof the song.
Oh, you just added it in there.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, for fun.
That's hilarious, I just wentin there I was like all right,
and then I had to do like a fakelittle laugh.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
And I was like this doesn't sound genuine.
Well, it didn't sound terribleeither, but honestly I feel like
it's good though for theoverall track.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yeah it tied in, it did it tied in well, it was a
good track.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
I liked it, though it was good, like I said.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, for sure, like I said, we get roses out here.
Okay, that's how we do things.
You know what I'm saying?
Wonderful track yes, keep it up.
It was great.
We liked it.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Like I said, I don't have anything ill will I was
trying to turn it down.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I'm over here moving the wrong fucking dial.
I'm like y'all, you're gonnastop clapping at some point.
We just it's like, all right,no, but um, no for sure I liked
it.
I liked how it sounded,everything was great.
Your vocals were clear.
I like to look forward to whatyou're gonna make in the future.
Are you working on a projectcurrently, or is it just kind of
like?

Speaker 4 (22:19):
I am on two oh, two projects.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Two, is it one that would be like an EP and then the
album, or what was yourtimeline with that, or your idea
of it?

Speaker 4 (22:31):
So EPs or albums are going to take a minute.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Because EPs are shorter.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
No, they're shorter.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Yeah, but I'm kind of just testing the waters.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
I'm seeing what works for me vocal-wise.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
But you already have an idea for two projects though.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Yeah, okay, oh, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Okay, so you got some stuff in the works, all right.
Good, we're looking forward tothat.
That's cool.
So do you have any questionsyou want to ask?
I have more questions for her,but do you have anything you
want to ask her?

Speaker 3 (22:57):
just so you could try to roast me, bro.
What, at least you?

Speaker 1 (23:03):
let me know.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
You said my head was handsome bro.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Is that the?

Speaker 3 (23:06):
only scene you have Bro.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
I was like, hey, how is that trying to roast you?
That was a genuine question bro.
Oh my gosh, bro, that's crazy,bro, son, I have to ask this now
.
Since he's in the B-roll.
Is he the dude that cheated onyou?
Your character that you'replaying, Damn.
So she's going to fuck yourfriend bro.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
You know I never looked at it like that.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
That's a good ass point, though, right, I mean,
come on bro.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Y'all see the shit I got to deal with, right.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Sorry, bro, All right .
I'm done, I just never thoughtlook, look, I had to know we was
playing, though, right?
I mean, clearly she's like fuckthis dude, only he gets the
back of his head, that's it.
You don't get to see what itlooks like.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
No, if you notice he's like always on his phone.
I did notice.
Yeah, dang, yeah see.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
So this is exactly why I should never invite you on
a real double date, bro.
I need to stop.
My boy walks off set.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
He's like I'm just gonna take his headset off and
walk away like fuck this shitnot me.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
I hold my.
I hold my peace.
That's right.
Hold your peace, my boy.
I'm proud of you right now, dog, that's right.
Y'all keep throwing y'allstones Go ahead, oh man, hey,
hey You're going to look back.
I think I got a handsome head.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
You're going to look back.
Hey, you do my boy.
All right, you, bro, it don'tmean nothing coming from you and
you didn't answer my question.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
I said do you have any more questions for our guest
here?
No, I just I had to address youabout that real quick first.
But, um, yeah, so uh, who aresome?
I know you guys have like a avery close um friends group, so,
uh, who are some of the peoplethat played a major factor in
like, um you know, inspiring youon doing a musical journey?

Speaker 4 (25:08):
nappy hi I will always 100, say, nappy hi, it
was, I believe a year ago he hadperformed at some bar and that
like spark, just seeing him likeso passionate, just like like
sparked, just seeing him like sopassionate, just like sparked

(25:28):
my interest again in like doingmusic, because growing up, I
mean, I've always loved singingalways yeah, um.
But after seeing him I was likeokay, I'm grown, I make my own
money, I have resources, so I'mjust gonna fucking do this good
for you, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
So you just went for you, like, fuck it, I have the
resources I have.
Why not, you know?
I mean, no one's holding meback, no one's telling me I can
fucking do this.
Good for you.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah.
So you just went for it Likefuck it, I have the resources I
have.
Why not?
You know what I mean.
No one's holding me back, noone's telling me I can't do this
Exactly.
That's good on you.
No, for real.
That's good on you, rob, steve,for that, because most people
don't.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yeah, that's one thing I told Nappy.
I said I'm like I'm going toput this out just for me.
I don't really care for whatother people think, because you
know it's not everybody's cup oftea at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
That's how it has to be at first, anyway.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Yeah, before it catches, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
You have to do it for yourself.
That's the most important thinghonestly.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
You know what I'm saying.
I haven't but uh, bam knockmentioned like he's kind of like
a musical genius, so did jj so,but I've never heard his stuff
dude it's listen, it's fuckingamazing.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
I got some I got.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Actually I have everything he's done on on vinyl
, on vinyl bro oh yeah, I boughtit too yeah, I support.
He knows that.
I know you're watching this andyou get your ass on this damn
show already.
We've talked about it.
We talked about it here andthere.
He knows you know he's a goodsupporter though, though he
likes the show too.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
So does he just produce or does he like he raps?
He raps occasionally.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
He raps, but not often.
Mostly known for his production, though Not often.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
He's mostly known for his sound.
She's right.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
But like when he does blue note stuff, the name of
the song but prior projects thathe's done with him together,
together as a group they'recalled.
They call themselves blue notesand whenever they get together.
Yeah memnock does most most ofthe rapping when they do that
the duo but he does hop on thetrack once in a while too, like
if you heard him rap before.
He does rap once in a while.
Have you heard of any of hispast stuff?

(27:19):
I don't know if he's showingyou, but yeah, he has.
He doesn't do it frequentlythough, she's right, but what
he's mostly known for,especially on his own projects,
he usually just does beats.
Okay, he's doing productionmost of the time which I kind of
figured.
For some reason he just gave offthat vibe, yeah it's clean,
though, man, if you go see himlive too.
Like she said, like I, I agreewith him.
He does passions there, bro, sohe's still my brother's the
same way, but his passion doesit, he still does it, yeah, he

(27:39):
still.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
My brother's the same way, but his passion, he still
does it.
He still does it, yeah, hestill performs.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, I don't know if he's done anything lately.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, not lately.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Not lately, but he when he does.
Bro, you should just come checkout One of his sets.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
I'd be down.
Yeah, I'd be down, yeah we'llgo Low End Theory.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
I know he loved that place Before it closed.
That was lit.
Oh, they shut on the stage,like that, because that was like
.
That was like.
It was like basically it waslike a club, right, but instead
of performers they would justhave producers go up there and
just showcase beats.
That place was lit, bro.
Yeah.
So shout out to Low End Theory.
Yeah, man, that's too bad.
It doesn't exist anymore.

(28:12):
But the people that people thatknow about it know I'm shouting
them out because that was a litplace was cool, though man's
like a little spy was indoors,they had an outdoor patio and
shit too, so you could actuallyhear the music playing
everywhere, and there was like amain stage where the producer
would go up there and behindthem they have a projection of
whatever they wanted to play inthe background visually, but
they were just up there doingtheir thing, man from the beats,

(28:32):
and it's pretty hard, yeah.
So to see him performing playslike that would have been lit,
but they unfortunately are nolonger around.
I don't know what happened, butyou know one of his next live
sets.
You check him out, but you knowthat's cool, he's one of your
inspirations.
That's dope, you know.
Shout out to navi again.
He's gonna come on the pot.
You'll be able to talk to himformally.
He's supposed to come on herepretty soon, I think when his
next project drops.
Okay, he's supposed to come onhere and talk about it.

(28:53):
Yeah, and come sign my last,the last vinyl I bought.
Um, what was that one called?
Not, not, not villains, it wasone after villains, the most
recent one he just dropped.
What is it called?
Forgive me, bro, I know you'regoing to watch this shit.
He's going to be likemotherfucker.
You don't even know I reallybought this shit.
I forgot, damn, we're bothhammered out.

(29:14):
He's going to look at both ofy'all like that.
Yo, he's going to look at uslike I have the picture of like
yeah, he's wearing a ski mask,he's in his car yes, he's in his
car and he has like a bunch ofdudes with white faces behind
him.
What the fuck?
I'm sorry, bro, you know what'swhen we're talking about?

(29:36):
Damn it, I don't even know this, can't think of the name right
now okay, no, we can't do themlike that.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
We can't look that shit up or broke.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
It's, no, it's in that crate, never mind that's
doing too much, but I literallyhave it in that crate right over
there, bro, it's in that crate,um I got you she's got me.
She's looking up right now.
Anyway, I did buy a physicalcopy of it.
I did support bro, just so youknow, um.
But yeah that's what it fuckingwas.
I didn't even have to look atit because I just remembered,

(30:02):
just probably yeah, see, menace.
So menace was the name of it.
So shout out to you for menace,bro.
It was good, it was great workI got.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
I got it on vinyl.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, that's most recent one, oh, okay, villains
is what he did before that Ihave that one too yeah, that was
pretty dope he had a red vinylfor it everything he did a good
job.
He's very inspiration, or justone of your biggest ones um, I
would say, my only yeah coolthat you know you have that

(30:29):
relationship with him.
That's cool.
That was the inspiration, sothat's good on you.
Anything else you want to askher, bro, before we move on?

Speaker 3 (30:35):
um, yeah, so I know you're, you know freshly
starting out.
You know music has always beena passion for you.
Um, what was it like justhiring like a personal, like
voice trainer?
What was that like?

Speaker 4 (30:49):
A vocal coach.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Vocal coach.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
So it was honestly challenging, just because when
you look it up online, you don'treally see faces.
It's just names.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
And feedback or no feedback on what like you know,
like kind of like rape.
My professor, you got the likejust a professor's name oh, no,
no, none of that, you don't seeany of that um.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
But luckily, you know , I kept doing my research and I
found this like studio place umout in studio city and I just
went in inquired someinformation.
Then I found some.
I found some random ass lady.
I love her though.
She really did help me out.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
That's cool.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
She helped me out a lot because I didn't know
technical stuff at all.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
You just think you get up there and do the damn
thing, right?
I would just go up there.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Yeah, like that was me.
And then now that I know alittle bit more about like the
technical, I'm like okay theybreak it down for you.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
I can do it right, tell you what a falsetto is.
They explain all these thingsto you, right?

Speaker 4 (31:51):
and how to hit the the um keys, how to switch up
and all that so voice control,like literally just voice
control voice control yeah okay.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
So it's really like just a process to that too, like
you gotta just know how tocertain way to to do it
correctly, or know the word, theverbiage for it, right yeah to
understand it better.
That's cool.
She breaks it down for you,because I didn't know that shit
either.
I was like what the fuck is it?
Someone told me a falsetto.
I was like what the fuck isthat?
oh, it's been a higher pitchedthe difference between a run and
a riff see, I didn't know, Idon't know, I don't know, I

(32:20):
don't know that shit either.
Yeah, that was, but they teachyou that too, huh, they did.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
I was kind of like confused at first.
It just clicked.
Now I can't explain it to you,but I know what it is.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Because you sing Guess why, so if I did the act,
then you'd be like it would makesense.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
But it's hard to make it make sense if you don't
actually do the act.
That makes sense, good pointway to put it.
Well, I usually don't ask this,but if you don't have any more,
I was gonna ask you if you hadany questions for us ooh uh oh
what inspired y'all to startthis?
Oh, that's a good one.
Okay, you wanna answer?

Speaker 3 (32:53):
or should I?
Oh well, he's already beendoing this.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
They just take me along, yeah, and I was like, oh,
that'd be cool so I'll answeryour question and I'll let him
explain to you how he gotinvolved okay, so me, what
inspired me ever since I wasyounger?
my dad, because I used to talk alot as a kid too.
But the thing is like I'm veryI try to be very receptive when
I'm speaking to people, likeright so when I engage in a
conversation, I think of myselfas a conversationalist, right so

(33:18):
I like to hear the other personthough, too, to kind of help
drive the power of theconversation forward.
I don't want to always be theone talking, but I feel like if
you ask the right questions,that's how you do that.
You know what I mean.
So how did?
I?
Was like, how do I do this andmake it like make sense?
How can?
Is there a way I can do thisand make money Like I don't know

(33:40):
a shit, if anybody even listensto it?
You'll be one, two people aslong as I get two people
listening to me.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Hey, that's a win.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
You know, that's how I saw it.
I was like, fuck, as long as Iget two listeners, hey I'm,
that's great.
But I was just doing it for thepassion at first, like I, just
I was passionate about puttingmy opinion out there and having
my voice be heard.
Being able to haveconversations with interesting
people doing that stuff oncamera is interesting because I
like to watch it.
I'm like, well, if this shitalready exists people were
interviewing each other andyou're watching interesting
people have conversations withother interesting people.

(34:05):
I was that'd be a greatplatform to do that.
Right, then I'm also working ona clothing line, so I kind of
came up with this idea to helppromote that.
You know what I mean.
So I was like, what better wayto do it than a podcast?
And I honestly proof of this uh, I started doing the podcast
back in 2017 when I first did it, 2016, when podcasts they've

(34:27):
always, they've still existedback then.
They're just not as popular asthey are now.
They're more popular now thanthey've ever been.
Right, like, everybody has afucking podcast.
Paul george the basketballplayer has a podcast.
Actors do podcasts.
You know what I'm talking about.
Everybody has them now.
You see them all over, all overtiktok, right, people have them
all the time and I will say Ihave time stamps of my original
episodes that I ever did, beforethere was ever a thing, and I

(34:48):
have proof that I used the nametimeless talk, the same logo.
I just hadn't.
I had dog shit.
Uh, I'm not gonna lie to you, Ihad dog shit equipment.
Girl, it was me and my cousinwho lives in idaho in ohio now
you know arm shark, that was myoriginal co-host before
slideshow and all we had was itwas just a table.
We had one.
I still have the microphone too.
Actually, I saw that we had onelittle yeti microphone in the

(35:10):
middle of the table.
No camera recording us, it wasjust that.
No, no sound machine, no soundeffects, it was just our voices.
No intro track.
I did, we used garage band torecord it.
It was, yeah, one of my harsherrecorded 10 episodes of
Timeless Talk, but it was thefirst 10 we ever recorded and
you got to start somewhere,right?

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
And that was the passion behind it and that's how
we got it started.
So I had it from then.
We did those 10 episodes backin 2017.
And then we stopped for a longtime Because he ended up moving,
couldn't have him as a co-hostanymore.
We kind of just fell off.
I didn't know how to promote it.
Well yeah, so barely anybodyknew about it.
It was more like boot campyears or growing pains than

(35:52):
anything else.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
So we went like five views, ten views maybe, so
that's more than more thansomeone, somebody somewhere
listened to it and they had novisuals to go with it.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
so at least it's a little more entertaining because
you can watch us now, butbefore it was just strictly
audio Just all voice yeah.
So that was originally where westopped off on a hiatus for like
four or five years, six years,whatever, and then fast forward
to 2022 with these guys and itwas him for the reboot.
I call it the reboot.
We basically rebooted thispodcast.
Timeless Talk was like dormantfor six years and then we just

(36:24):
brought it back to live, gave acpr and then I I chose the other
guy.
That was was weird, because ourthird co-host was so eccentric
about starting this shit he wascute.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
It was actually y'all too.
It was all.
He was actually y'all too.
That was that was talking about.
Uh, you know, starting it backup.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah.
So he brought it back to myattention because he's like you
got a podcast.
I forgot how it came up inconversation, but I was like I
had one back in the day.
You want to listen to it, bro.
It's pretty bad.
But you know he's like, oh, weshould bring that shit back.
I was like that's not a badidea.
I was pretty decent at it.
You know, ma'am knock wouldtell me I was good at it.
He's always said I've, I've hadan act for interviews and you
know, talking and entertainingthis way.
So I was.
People keep telling me this.

(37:00):
I'm not supposed to just bringit back.
Like, and I have my boy super,you know ecstatic about doing it
.
So we brought him on and thenhe Q invited you.
That's how I met you.
Yeah, I met him through no weactually knew each other.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
We knew each other, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
We knew of each other .
Yeah, I didn't know him.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, he's like a brother to me.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
now See the resemblance we're both black.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
People got dark skin.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
I don't know which one of you guys it was that
pitched to me the idea thoughwhat do you mean?
Which one of you guys I thinkit was Q that said, you know you
guys were going to bring up thepodcast, and then, if I wanted
to be a part of it, I think heasked me, and then I was like
yeah, because that sounds cool.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
And I'm glad we did that, because I was never.
I was never against the thirdperson, but I always said the
third, the third microphoneshould be for, like a guest,
always and only you know.
But then I was like, oh, let megive it a try.
And I actually ended up likingthe dynamic of having three
opinions instead of just two.
Yeah, you know what I mean,because it's not bad just having
two, but three is it's kind ofnot a good rounded number, you
know, but for some reason thatthird spot we just keep rotating

(38:05):
, we kept changing people, likenow our new third.
You didn't get to meet him today.
He couldn't make it because,unfortunately, he had to watch
his son.
But, um, he would have beenhere, otherwise he would have
met our third co-host, which isfurious.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
But then this this room would have been a lot, a
little blacker.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, because he was because he was.
He was black too.
He's black too.
It was black too too.
He is black too, is black too.
But he's going to watch thislike bro.
What the fuck were y'all on inthat episode?

Speaker 3 (38:27):
I don't know bro.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
I'll tell you Tatiana brought it in, bro, tatiana,
not Tatiana.
All right, anyway, yeah, yeah,so that's.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Oh, I'll sing the song.
That's all right.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
That'd be the imagine that was her intro when she
came in.
We just played have her walk,bro, come and do the come to the
little knee move you didearlier behind camera she's like
what the fuck?
I'm a dancer there you goexactly.
Hey, man, it's you, but it'slike you know so that.
And then, um, you know, so thisisn't such a long story to tell
.
Um, the clothing line hasalways been a dream of mine, so

(39:01):
timeless empire is the name ofthe brand that I'm working on.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
And that's why I came up with the name Timeless Talk.
So Timeless Talk comes fromTimeless Empire.
I was like how can I make apodcast that ties in with the
clothing line?
And it clicked.
So I had Timeless Empire firstand then Timeless Talk.
I was like it just makes senseand I didn't want the podcast to

(39:28):
be about one thing.
So that's why our podcast,every episode, is different.
You literally watch us in anyorder, you know.
Yeah, it really don't matter,yeah, yeah.
But I'll let you give you hispoint.
He's been my most loyal co-host.
He's been here since therestart, I guess you could say
because my original co-host.
We had him come on as a guestbecause you know he moved away
so he unfortunately can't do itwith us.
Otherwise he would have beenback for sure and he probably
would have been number three forsure If he was still here.
Armstrong would still be verymuch a part of this.
But anyway, I'll let you nowtake over and give her your

(39:50):
perspective on it.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
It's not, it's not too different than what he said.
You know they pitched me theidea.
You know AJ had an old podcastthat they're trying to revive.
You know we want you to be apart of it.
So I was like, okay, that'd becool, tried it out.
I was really nervous for thefirst episode.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I don't know if the first episode was 90 or the
Targaryen, oh no 90 was thesecond episode.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
That was the number two, yeah so the first one was
the Walmartian, or Targaryen,that we were talking about
earlier, that was the first one,I was low-key nervous, but I
was low-key nervous.
But then you know, you sit downin front of the camera and
realize it don't bite.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
So you know it just becomes natural All right,
you're actually our mostcomfortable guest in front of
the camera.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Really, at least at first, that was at least never
nervous to start off.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I mean they all warm up to it.
You can see it at first, whenthe episode first starts.
If you look at our guests,usually they're just like Stiff
as hell.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yeah, they're just super stiff.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
But then, as the episode goes on, yeah, they
start to get comfortable, yeahyou just came in violent.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
I've been comfortable with the camera.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
She just came in violent.
I knew he was going to say that, come on, bro.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
I am not a violent person.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
I have no clue what he's talking about.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
She came in.
I don't either.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Boom, boom, boom, See I know?

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Look at her face, bro .
She's even lost.
Right now she's like where?

Speaker 2 (41:08):
did she come in unloading bro?

Speaker 1 (41:11):
He's accusing you of this girl.
He's saying you came in herelike I was like damn bro, really
like that.
Dropped the shells on theground too.
Like she just said, she'sreloading Hurry hide, bro, she's
here, I'm dropping real quick.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
You're all right.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
You just all you hear is, and then it's the.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
It's the.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, the loading the clip.
You load the clip.
The fact that I know how to doit, the fact that you know how
to do it, and then all you hearis he just oh shit, she's ready,
bro.
I'm like oh fuck, yeah, man.
So the fact that you know howto reload a clip girl, that's
everything.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
No, yeah, I was taught at a very young age.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Oh, so you were taught how to use a weapon.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
So you showed up, okay, well, I was in a military
program, so oh, were youactually in a branch or you just
?
I was in the United StatesNaval Sea Cadet Corps oh wow,
okay Well, thank you for your.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Did you actually do service or time, service time,
or were you?

Speaker 4 (42:12):
just gone.
I didn't join the military, Ididn't want to.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
She's like I was in ROTC damn it.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
No, I was not ROTC.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Hey hey, hey.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
There's a difference.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Okay you're right.
I'm sorry.
I don't want to bedisrespectful, Please please
don't.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Hey, I'm sorry, I don't want to disrespect you.
My bad You're right, you'reright.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Show some respect for our ROTC veterans.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Oh no, Are you an ROTC veteran?

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Don't tell me you are bro.
That's right, I'm out bro.
I'm out Air.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Force Mic drop, man bro, I didn't know that ROTC.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Air Force.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
What he said Air Force Yours truly.
He said, let me get it straightAir.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Force.
So you were Air Force, I wasNavy.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
He said Air oh shit.
Air Force is better.
But Well, hey, thank you anyway.
Both of you, even youarrogant-ass motherfucker over
there, decided to talk about his, his aviation hey, you brought
it up, were you really were youreally in in the branch, though,
or were you like in a class atschool?

Speaker 2 (43:06):
bro, just a class at school bro oh no, mine was an
outside program, yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
I had to go Mondays and Saturdays.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
She said and I did boot camp.
Congratulations, wait hold on.
You plagued yourself, we stillgot we still got booted up every
Tuesday or Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
Damn, that don't mean shit.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
It does mean something.
We was over there suited.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
If y'all saw my drills oh hell, how were your
drills Enlighten this man?

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Oh they were insane.
They would actually treat uslike we were in the military.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Wow, yeah, so they would.
They're pretty accurate.
They did the same to us too, ohman.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
Because our sergeants I believe you, bro.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
No, our sergeants were actual, like military men.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Actually involved in it.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
And ours was too.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
He's like wait a minute.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
No, no, but they got to soften it up for y'all at
school.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
No, that's not true.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
We were yelled at in our face.
We were literally at in ourface.
We were literally like we hadto run around with sandbags on
our back.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Damn.
Well, we didn't do the sandbags, but we had to run the mile in
less than six minutes.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
No, fuck that Damn.
He said that's just light work.
That ain't the same shit.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
It's light work, man, I.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
That sandbag is afraid of me.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
He said the sandbag is afraid of me.
He said the sandbag is afraidof me no, no, no, we have, we
have people.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
I mean I ain't gonna tear you down, but like it it
was a little it's already hardfor people that was in rtc damn
right I need to take off.
Y'all give us a bed of rosestoo.
That's all right, bro, you knowwhat you're right man.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Yeah, give us.
I won't hit you with this, bro,don't worry.
Give me the roses, bro.
I got you bro.
I'm sorry, there you go, my boy, someone can't clap roses for
you, thank you good job, goodjob.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
We're proud of you for my contribution to was that
like an elective in?

Speaker 1 (45:02):
high school yeah, I, I think so yeah I was an
elective.
Hell yeah, I was an elective.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Nice, that's interesting, damn okay.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Theater, theater, theater, yeah okay, that's cool,
that was your.
I remember I had that, I hadtheater and I also had fucking
home economics he's over thereeating mini cake bro I learned
how to.
I learned how to make a littlemini bag.
I mean, I used to partake inthe marriage of wanna back in
the day.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
I ain't gonna lie, not no more just pass me old, aj
you never smoked.
Well, back then did you smoke?

Speaker 1 (45:37):
come on, you know you talked a little bit, don't lie.
Look at her, you feel it.
She feel a cat, bro, you knowshe did.
Anyway, she's like.
I'm not going to say yes, Icannot confirm nor deny that
statement.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
I stay quiet.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Uh-huh, we'll take that.
That's fine.
You have the right to reservesilence.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
What's MS called bro.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
In court when you.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Plead the fifth.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
No, no, no, no, no there's.
There's another one where it'slike you're guilty, but you're
not gonna admit it I forgot whatit's called.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
No contest.
Yeah, yeah, no contest.
She's like.
He's like how many fuckingcourtrooms have you been in?

Speaker 1 (46:11):
he's like how many fucking courtrooms are you like.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
You know the lingo and shit your ass been in every
courtroom how many?

Speaker 3 (46:17):
yeah, I didn't say I did it, but I didn't say I did.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
He's like how many courtrooms you've been in.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
So you know, I know, bro, no contest, not because I
heard somebody do that.
That's how you do it and I'mlike what's that?
I'm like what's that.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Well, they usually explain that to you in the court
.
The courtroom will tell you ifyou're not guilty.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
You're the guilty, not guilty, or no contest.
No contest it's saying I see,with the information that you
have, how you can see it likethat, but I'm not going to say
nothing.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Basically, that's what it is You're saying, like,
all right, I'm not going toadmit saying I'm guilty, but
I'll just take the consequences.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
You got me and usually you know what's crazy
about that?

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Usually the judges they're okay with it, they'll
just reduce the fine.
They'll actually give you thefine still, but they'll reduce
it still.
But they'll reduce it usuallysignificantly to a point where
it's like 60 bucks.
Like, since you chose nocontest and what we're willing
to to reduce, that's severelyreduced.
I'm like hell, thank you,severely reduced it to zero.
Why don't you just fuckingcancel it?
Why don't you just acquit it,bro, like because you know when
they say, when they dismiss acase, that's it.

(47:16):
I don't know if you've everbeen to traffic court, but when
you're in traffic court, don'tever do that girl, good, good
for you, good for you you don'tno speeding tickets or nothing
no none really not one, not onein your whole entire life.
Wow, but I did I did have a cop.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
Look at me once and shake his head like I would have
got your ass.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Damn.
That's cool that you let you goit's because she's a girl bro,
I know you gotta pass becauseyou're a woman.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
She's like well, that's all right that's all
right.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Us, had that been one of us Turn those lights on so
quick?

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Go ahead and twirl your hair and bite your lip,
like she probably could, and seewhat I get you with the cop.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
That's all you can do ?

Speaker 1 (47:53):
No, I have a resting bitch face and I've been told
that when I'm driving, so thenwhy would he let you go him a
dirty?
Look?
He probably like I'm gonna givethis girl a ticket now fuck her
.
She give me a dirty ass.
Look, I'm gonna pull her assover now you're speeding.
Honestly, if I was that cop, Iwould've walked the team like
girl, how you gonna speed?
And look at me the way youlooked at me.
What the fuck I was gonna letyour ass go too until you did

(48:14):
that shit like the fuck butofficer.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
That's all the difference.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
That's true, though yeah, it's another female cop,
another hater.
She might just do it oh, yeah,probably no not even, not even
sex or gender.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
I'm talking about if it's highway patrol or if it's a
sheriff oh yeah, no, that doesmake a difference.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
Yeah, that does hella make a difference, sheriff and
la pd gonna let you go theydon't really care.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
It's highway patrol that does it.
The guys you see in the suvs?

Speaker 2 (48:39):
oh, my fucking ohers will pull your ass over.
They will not.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Right, sheriffs, they don't give a shit enough.
They'll get behind you.
They won't even run your plate.
Chp got it.
They'll just drive off.
They don't care.
Even if they did look you, theyprobably wouldn't even pull you
.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Whatever, Well because if you're on the, do
that, no, you're right.
Oh, they have to call them.
Oh, fuck that.
No, because they can't get itto you oh, they can't.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
I didn't know that.
No, they can't Really.
Yeah, yo, I just learnedsomething new today.
I didn't know that that's wild.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
They have to call Highway.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Patrol, damn.
I'm going to call you and belike girl.
You lied to me.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
I got a fat ass ticket.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
I'm like you know what, tatiana?
You're going to pay my ticketnow.
You paid his shit.
You lied to me.
This motherfucking sheriff gaveme a ticket with a smile on his
face, like you thought Icouldn't write you one.
You thought, motherfucker,that's crazy though.
But from my knowledge they haveto take care of the highway, or
is that on regular street?

Speaker 4 (49:43):
the sheriff can give you one in the regular street on
the sheriff on the street, yeahyeah, they can give you a
ticket okay, so just on thefreeway they can't freeway.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Yeah, no okay, that makes sense.
Now I'm gonna say so they canwrite tickets.
Those motherfuckers can't writetickets.
You just gotta, they can'twrite just not on the freeway,
interesting.
Well, that's hella off topic,but anyway, I know where the
fuck did we get here?
Anyway, let's just pull thisshit back.
Um, so more about your music.
I have a few more questions foryou, as I'm sure he might have
as well, but did you haveanything else you wanted to ask

(50:11):
us first?
Did I already ask how y'all met.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
How did you guys meet ?
Through work oh, oh, yes, youdid say, that's why we kind of
threw it in there.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
We threw them with the origin of the podcast yeah,
okay anyway, that's, that was so.
You have any other questionsfor us other than how we met in
the podcast?
If not, we can just move on noquestions, okay, yeah all right.
So, um, as far as me, though, Ihave, I have a couple more for
you.
Do you have anything else?
You want to ask her before I dothat, or are you good to go?
You go back and forth.
Go back, for I'll go first,then you go.
Okay, I'll pass it back to youin a second.
So, with your music, right, doyou want to do experimental

(50:45):
things as well?
Like as I'm watching him sayingobviously you talk about you
know what inspired you, right?
Who inspired you, how you gotinto it.
You got out of your comfortzone, which I'm proud of you for
good.
For good on you for doing that.
This is your first ever recordedtrack yeah wow, okay, have you
been featured on anybody else'sstuff or?
No I haven't no, okay.
So do you want to beexperimental, like do you want
to stick with a certain genre,like r&b, or do you, you don't

(51:08):
mind, are you open to trying newthings too?

Speaker 4 (51:10):
right now I'm kind of staying comfortable, but I do
want to like venture out intodifferent genres, just because I
know I'm not like vocallylimited okay like I.
I have a range, but that'ssomething that I'm learning.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
I'm learning like With time and reps.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Repetition.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
You figure it out as you go.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
That's good um are you willing to freestyle
something for us?

Speaker 4 (51:38):
damn girl you spit oh no, I can't, I can't.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
The boy I don't rap.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
She writes me she's freestylers and sing sing
something, then acapella,something, acapella.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
I want you to sing man huh oh, let me tell you this
we're not, we're not, we're nothere for me right.
Can I say it, though Can I sayit?
Say what, say what you told me,dang.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
I mean you could.
So this boy, over here he saidhe can sing, you can sing.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
This is news to me.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
It's not news to me.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
I didn't know, you he said he can sing.
So, now, I want to hear it too.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
So if I do it, you do it.
No, we're not here for me,we're here for you.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
You know what man?
You can't use that scapegoatthough.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
I actually could.
All right, fuck that, Iactually could.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
No, you're going to sing something I actually could.
If you want to hear this girlgo acapella, only in one
condition gotta go first Ididn't even say that part, but
all right go ahead, hold on.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
First of all, I didn't claim to sing, so I mean
you sing too.
All right everybody, I don'tfucking sing.
What the hell the difference?

Speaker 1 (52:50):
between you and me is I know I didn't claim that shit
, but you just did so I didn'tclaim it hey, you, as much as
you know I listen to churchmusic, you should know I I do a
little.
Okay, I've seen I've heard himsing along before on the radio
or on his, but that's the thingI don't know but, see the
difference between us two.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
You actually know how to sing.
You didn't had a couple people.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Now he backtracks I can't sing.
I don't know.
I claim to be a professional.
I don't know how to sing.
I claim to be a professionalsinger so I don't know, I didn't
say all that, but I mean youdabble in it, right?
So that means you must have hadsome type of experience in it
no experience, but I've.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
The only thing I've tried to do is um, like I was
trying to share with you is um,I would listen to, like maybe
let's say like I start off withfive songs, I'd learn the lyrics
to those five songs and thenlike, not really sing, but I
would say more of like imitate.
So if they hit a note, I try toimitate that note.
Or if they just, however theysing the song, I try to imitate

(53:52):
that.
So it's not much, it's notreally singing, but it's like I
could sing that song.
Yeah, pretty much, I get you.
It's not much, it's not reallysinging, but it's like I could
sing that song.
Yeah pretty much, I get you butI need the, I need the.
The thing with me is like Idon't have the, I don't have any
control, like I could only singthat song if I'm listening to
that song, if that makes senseso you sing along, I just sing
along like, for example, if I,if I were to pop an earphone in,

(54:14):
I could sing as confident aslike if I didn't have it in and
I wasn't listening to the song,if that makes sense, because I
can't keep up with the rhythm itdoesn't.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding, it makessense.
I'm trolling.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
I was being honest.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
I was agreeing with you.
Well, the singer.
The singer understood what Iwas saying.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
The singer not the non-s, the singer, singer was
being nice no, no, but I do getwhat you're saying about saying

(54:55):
about the whole.
You can't follow the melody,yeah naturally no, Really no.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Like singing along with it.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
No, I got it.
I have to hear it.
I can't sing it.
If I'm not hearing it, I can'tsing it.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
So he's saying he can do acapella.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Acapella, can you do it, though I was spelling it in
my head.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Acapella, can you do it?
Though I was spelling it in myhead, she's like I can't do
acapella, that is.
That is how it's spelled,though.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Okay, so so so can you do acapella then?

Speaker 3 (55:25):
can you do it yeah?
Yeah do it.
Well, if she, if she did hersong, she, she had to know how
to do it.
That's true, you did okay, I'mgonna do that

Speaker 1 (55:32):
one no dude, just do a freestyle.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
Because lately I've been seeing Lucky Days.
Do that, then Love you Too Much.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Is it Too Much?

Speaker 4 (55:41):
you've been doing it no it's called Love you Too Much
.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Oh, okay, do it then.
Do it All right, hold on.
Are you cool with putting it onthe spot like that?
Hey?

Speaker 4 (55:47):
watch it.
Watch it be all bad right now.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
I mean, hey, this is prerecorded, mulligan.
Um, all right, it's a shame foryou, it's a shame for me, it's
a blame on you.
I could say the same for me.
After the wrong is there aright?
I cannot look into your eyes.
This is the truth that I can'tfight.
I love you too much.
There you go, that's good.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
That little round was a little off no no Tripping,
that's crazy, you really do be aharshest critic she is bro.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Honestly, I want to keep the second and that one,
bro, and that one both Hell yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
Me trying it multiple times.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
That's what I'm saying.
That sounded good, me trying itmultiple times.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
That's not like good or the a you sound like your
cousin, right, and that's I'mgonna go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
I told you it peaks just a little bit, but no, trust
me, you didn't sound like herat all until, like there's
certain, certain aspects.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
I told you didn't, I tell you yeah it comes in
randomly it happened earlier too.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
I didn't say it though, Really yeah, while you
were talking, Just a little bitNot.
But when you sing, thoughthat's totally.
That's all you girl, that'syour sound.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, that sounded good, butyou have your little.
How do you explain it?

Speaker 4 (57:06):
I don't want to say tendencies but like it's
probably guys, it's just, it'sin the yeah it's in the voice or
just the way you guys talk.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
I guess we well we hung out so much for like a
whole year that I feel like Idid.
She kind of did rub off on me,but that might be it too.
Yeah, yeah, but I feel like,just the way I talk, I got more
from, like, my family that livesout in the bay area okay, so
maybe she got it from you thenno, no, I was thinking, I was
thinking it could be one ofthose things that cousins do
amongst themselves but then theyalso start doing it with like
friends as well.
Once like I'm like aroundsomeone for such a long time,

(57:44):
like, and once they rub off onme, it's just gonna be
everywhere.
Yeah, that's just gonna.
It's part of me now yeah, thatmakes sense.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
It's not a bad thing, no, no, but hey, by the way,
though you are tripping, thoughthat sounded good, that's last
time, right, and the only reasonwhy the other ones were bad
takes, the first one and thethird one is because you stopped
singing.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
That's why it made it bad see, okay, when I record at
home, because I have like myown little like at home setup, I
do that same shit.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Really well, that makes sense, because you're
trying to and you listen toyourself like fine, do it better
, I'll do it better, I'll do itbetter yeah and then you'd be
surprised.
Actually, you wouldn't besurprised, you know, because now
you do this, you do the whole.
You're involved in music.
How many people take so manytakes over and over again?
You're not the only one whodoes it.
Trust me, rappers do that shit.
I'm gonna go harder, bro.
Fuck that, I mean let's recordit.
Let's record it again.
They do it a lot.

(58:29):
I highly doubt they do one.
Take some of them do.
Some of them claim they do, butI don't believe that shit bro.
No, hell, no you, becausethat's on the wax forever.
You know what I mean.
So if you don't sound a certainway, you're gonna want to redo
it, naturally, because you'relike that didn't sound, that
didn't come out right, thatdidn't come out how I wanted it
to.
So you know, but it soundedgood, I liked it.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
Good job on you but still, I noticed I do shit,
thank you, thank you that's good, I do shit that never actually
shows up vocals really yeah, Ican't, because there's this one
song by I don't know if you guysknow she just like more pop,
falzia you guys I've heard thename before.
Yeah, it sounds familiar ohdude, her fucking runs she's

(59:08):
dope.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
I love seeing the long hair stuff hey, that's
where your inspirations comefrom, then.
Right, so you have.
I'm sure you said, obviously,nappy was what was your biggest
one, right?
But you're saying you have.
Do you have any other?
Is there any other femalevocalists that you look up to
that you're like man.
I don't want to be like her,but she inspires me to do what
I'm doing now oh okay, kianalede kiana lede, kiana lede okay

(59:35):
, cool.
I think I've heard her before.
Sounds familiar.
Maybe not Listen to her.
She sounds familiar.
I'll check her out.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Yeah, she's done a lot of collaborations too.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
All right, that's probably where I might have seen
that name or heard it before,for sure.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
No, I haven't heard the name.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
No, fool you never.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
It's turn to ask a question.
Um so, how long are you comingon now?

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
of like taking those singing classes.
Are you still doing them?
I stopped, I stopped and I'mnot gonna lie, it's because of
financial stuff hey, that getsin the way vocal lessons like
they're pricey yeah, pricey, butshit man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
The equipment to record this shit is not easy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
But it's an investment.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Sorry, it's not cheap , so not easy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
It's not cheap.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it's not cheap,Especially if we were doing it
in Studio City.
I could just imagine the prices.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
But I think because they were taking so many
students, the pricing honestlywasn't that bad compared to
other places that I had seenwhich is why I stuck with with
it fair.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Yeah, and I'm so grateful.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Like the vocal coach, she recorded each session so I
can listen back to it and I cando my vocal.
That's dope.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
So now you, you know, now you can kind of see it
right.
Okay, this is how I did this.
I did the warm-up, so I didthis so now I go back and do it
again on my own if I need tosmart how long did you do it for
?

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
I did it for like four or five months, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
That's not bad.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
That's cool.
So you still got a good amountout of it, so you can still use.
Even though you stopped for alittle bit, you can still use
that, apply it to whenever youmake a new track or, eventually,
live performances.
Right, you would like to go ontour eventually, right?
Eventually with a project.
That'd be cool, that's in thefuture, right when I get you
know.
I'm saying I see that we speak,we manifest things right, we
put it out there.
So I I had another, unless youhave another question ready for

(01:01:24):
arrives, and that's I want toask you oh well, the second part
of that was like just just how,um, what was each session?

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
what was it like?
Like just the price, I guessthe pricing yeah well or was it
monthly?

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
it was per session.
Per session, that's usually howthey do it studio yeah so I
would pay, like I think, justunder 300 that sounds about
right, or?

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
yeah, bro, that's up dog for three, one sessions,
that's what Damn bro.
I mean, it's only $100 an hour.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
They can charge it, bro.
I'm telling you, they cancharge it, but as long as you
feel like you're gettingequipped with things that you
can actually use in your career,that you know it's lucrative.
I'm sure you figured that outafter a first lesson or two,
like, okay, this is actuallyworth it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Otherwise, yeah, otherwise yeah, or else I would
have been like bye, like that'sa lot, damn how much for an hour
, saying the tattoo shit I ain'tpaying that much for nah.
So as long as you're gettingyou know, you're getting the
value out of it.
That's what matters, that's themost important part.
That's cool you know what Imean?

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
yeah, that's dope, that's cool.
At least it was no contracts orlike you have to stay in there
until that part.
No, yeah, exactly that couldhave been the case too, so yeah
that's good real bad.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
So my next question for you was uh, so memnock, off
the record, has told me like helooks forward to eventually
having you convincing you to geton a project with him, whether
it's his project that we'recurrently working on or
something in the future.
Can you, can you let us knowabout anything that's going on
with that, or is that stillgonna just be a secret?
Because he didn't.
He asked.
He never necessarily told mehe's going to watch this.

(01:02:57):
Like, why are you asking herthat question?
Do you have an idea what it isyet?
Or you guys are just talking?
It's kind of just too early toeven say yet.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
It's way too early, it's just like yeah.
Cause I know he did call meyesterday.
Um, we had a conversation aboutsome stuff.
But yeah, he said he's, hewants to work.
So I'm like I'm all in for it.
Fuck, yeah, he's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
so hey, that's that's gonna be.
Yeah, good help for you too.
Right, help boost your, getsome vocals on somebody else's.
That could only do nothing buthelp you promote your you know,
yeah, projecting the rightdirection, yeah all right, cool,
I mean, I don't have anythingelse other than that.
Those are the questions Ireally have for you as far as
what you're doing musically.
I look forward to what you gotcoming soon.
Before we wrap up the episode,I'm going to ask you to put your

(01:03:41):
little plugs in there and letthe world know what you got
going on in your life, wherethey can follow you to follow
your music.
Where to find you, at whatplatforms are you on that kind
of thing, you know?

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
Yeah, I am currently located anywhere and everywhere.
I'm just kidding.
You can follow me on Instagram.
It's B-Y Natalie, with four E'sat the end.
That is my first name.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
There you go, dang the government I'm just kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
Government name the government name yo Not Alonzo,
not Alonzo, damn.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Yeah, put that shot in there, throw it in there real
quick.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
But yeah, that's me on IG, same thing on X, formerly
Twitter.
And then let's see where elseTikTok, same exact name.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
And then let's see where else TikTok same exact
name and you can listen to mymusic on Apple Music, spotify
and just any streaming servicesWell, basically, where they can
listen to us at they can listento you Cool.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
Makes it easy Do you have a YouTube or anything like
that YouTube.
I still need to verify myartist account, because that one
was the trickiest one when itcame down to verifying.
Ok, so that one, I'm in theworks, ok well, it's in the
process, though.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
That's good.
All right, we look forward toit.
What about you, bro?
Do you have any?
You have any final tidbits?
I'm glad that you put that inthere.
That was your final tidbit,right?
Yeah, ok, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
I'm done.
I'm done, no more, that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
I'm done Well, we appreciate that.
Thank you very much for that.
Thanks again for being onTimeless Talk.
It means a lot to us.
Thank you for coming out.
You know what I mean.
All right, bro, what about you,mr Slideshow?
Until the first bonus episodeof the off-season, what do you
want to leave our listeners andviewers with, sir?

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
I would say you know, you got two living examples
right here, People chasing theirdreams.
You got one doing clothingbrand, another one upcoming
singer.
Just let that be motivation foryou guys to do what you want to
do in life and not to give upon it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Appreciate that, bro.
Hey man, that was love man, youknow, Love man, you know.
And what I want to say aboutthat too is that with the merch
in the clothing line, this wasan up and down year.
He knows why.
You know, I recently lost mydad, this past.

Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
May right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
So it's been a rough one.
He's been close to the familyfor it and it kind of threw us
off.
So we were supposed to getthings in line and have merch
ready for not only to the notonly timeless empire.
But timeless talk was supposedto have its own set of merch too
, and that just kind of threweverything off.
You know what I mean Financeswise and financially, you know
yeah yeah, I don't want to saybigger things to pay for, but
you got you got otherobligations that acquire your

(01:06:30):
attention and money at the timeand so, unfortunately, you know,
you got to put money into that.
So that's a little bit of asetback, but it's just a setback
for a great comeback, that'sright.
So season five, we're justgoing to come back with new
energy and hopefully moreconsistency.
Right, have stuff for them tosee and be able to purchase,
have some links for you guys forthe clothing line.
So I do appreciate that shoutout.

(01:06:50):
But season five I look to comeback charged up, not just like
how J Cole said it.
He's powered up, ready to swatsome flies.
I'm we're going to come backpowered up as well and just
ready to.
You know, take, take thispodcast world by storm and
hopefully, you know, get thismerch ready and right and
clothing and everything.
You know what I'm saying.
So that's my really tidbit foryou guys is thank you guys for
your you know watching us andlistening to us because, like I

(01:07:14):
don't know, tatiana doesn't knowthis but we have more of a
listener audience than aviewership.
So the viewership is startingto catch up, but most of our
streams come through spotify.
Most people fuck with usthrough audio, which I'm not mad
at.
Hey, that's still.
I think they're just on the go,on the go, that's what I'm
saying.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
yeah, they should take us for the goal, the hot,
the hot, uh, what you call itchallenge they had me do last
time, almost killed me.
So so Facts Sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
What he's rubbing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Again.
He's like the hot challenge thehot challenge that we did last
time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
I was ready to violate this term off, Bro.
You were violating it already,bro.
You're like, she's like, my legis next Fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
Like hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
She's over here hugging the fucking.
I slowly move it over.
I know I I sleep.
I slowly see it's going closer.
It goes into the armrest LikeBro, you Are you gonna touch my
leg next?
And what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
I'm a victim Of my circumstance.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
It's okay, bro, we love you, dog, it's all good.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Thank you but.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
These bros, just this couch makes you Want to do that
shit, low key.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
I don't feel the urge for that, no but, it's soft
though right, you like it, butshe's like I just don't feel the
urge to.
I think no, my boy likes thezigzags.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
You like a little zigzag?

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
pattern.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
I genuinely think it's just my adhd it might be
that because I mean, I was, Iwas doing this when I sat in the
furniture store and tried itout.
You know, I was just like thisis nice.
I didn't come home and justlet's watch this movie, baby.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
I'm slowly moving over to her leg like look, okay,
should I try that with my whatyou're suggesting you make it
look weird Like I'm not going incircles.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
I'm going up and down bro.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
That's even worse, he said, I'm not going in circles.
Ain't no circular motion overhere?

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Right, you have to put the emphasis, like bouncing
with it.
You're like bro, I'm just, yousee this for watching the movie
this girl next to him.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
he's like let's watch this movie, baby, Come on.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Right, yeah, yeah, I'm running in the chair, not
even her.
He's watching the chair Likethis chair feels great.
How about this?

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Anyway, all right, man Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Perfect Thank you I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Oh shit, that's funny , man.
Okay, so yeah, with the audiolisteners Spotify guys, the
Apple Music, apple Podcast thishas been Timeless Talk.
We'll see you guys in the firstoffseason episode in a month or

(01:09:27):
so.
See you guys then.
Stay tuned.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Yeah, okay, live performance.
Behind all the shit, you tellme, Is she on your mind when
you're right, okay liveperformance.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
Bitches on your side it was such a go Told me you was
working, but you with thatother hoe.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
That's your part.
He's your backup dancer.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
He's like the fact that I just hopped on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Nah, that's cool.
I'm glad you did yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
That's my voice guys, that's all right, we'll require
a.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
That's a performance.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
No, we got one, dan.
We owe her some money now, bro,we owe her some money.
We owe her a check now.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
We owe her a bag.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
I got some quarters in my car all right, we'll see
y'all later.
Man all right, I'll see y'alllater.
Have a good, we'll see y'allthen.
Take care and timeless talklater.
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