🎹🔊🎶⚡️The Creative Pulse: a Beatmaker's Soul of Sound

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome back to the Conversation of Never Ends.
This is Timeless Talk.
I'm your host, aj, and we'reback for another spectacular
episode.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, all right.
So you guys noticed already.
A slide show is not here today.
He had to miss.
You know, he had to get hissuit, his tux, fitted.
Yeah, I think someone in hisfamily is getting married.

(00:46):
I don't want to put too much ofhis business out there, but you
know, shout out to Slide Show.
He wanted to be here but hecouldn't make it today.
But you know he'll be back nextweek In the house, as always.
My second co-host, of course.
We got Furious.
Yeah, yeah, bro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right,huh.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
He's just dropping.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Oh, of course, yeah, you know.
And over here to my left, youguys know who he is.
He's been me, he's been herebefore, but we got a special
guest today.
Over here on my left-hand side,we got JJ, jj, got Beats, jj
got Beats with the.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Z.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Dropping him.
Yeah, all right guys.
So this is going to be a dopeepisode.
Man, they usually are.
We have a good time, especiallywhen you come on the show.
Thanks for coming back.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Appreciate you guys for having me back.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, but yeah, we're going to go ahead and go over
JJ's new beat tape that he justdropped.
We're going to listen to youguys right now on the show,
we're going to vibe to it andwe're going to give you guys an
actual what do they call that?
A reaction.
Yeah, we're going to give youguys a straight up reaction.
How do you guys want to do this, though?
Do you guys want to do it afterevery track, take a break and
talk about it, or do you want tolisten to the whole project and
then just talk about the wholething?

Speaker 4 (01:49):
as well.
I mean either, or I would saythe whole thing.
Man, I'm down too.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Cool that, JJ.
I just want to play it and thenwe just.
You guys can feel free tocomment here and there.
Just go ahead and throw yourcomments in there, but we'll go
ahead and play the beat taperight now.
This is Homecooked Meals Volume1.
It's out now on all streamingplatforms.
If you guys haven't listened to, it, yet that's a dope title.
Go stream that yeah, that's adope title Go stream that right
now.
You know what I'm saying, sowe're going to get into that
right now.
We're just going to jump offright into it, guys, two minutes
into the episode.
Let's make it happen.

(02:14):
Homecooked Meals Volume 1.
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
All right, the first track we're going to play right
now is called Homecoming, soI'll get to that right now.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
I know you're out there, I can feel you now.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
I know that you're afraid.
You're afraid of us, you'reafraid of change.
I don't know the future.
I didn't come here to tell youhow this is going to end.
I came here to tell you howit's going to begin.
I'm going to hang up this phoneand then I'm going to show
these people what you don't wantthem to see.
I'm going to show them a worldwithout you.

(02:51):
Oh, that's Neo.
Without rules and controls,without borders or boundaries.
That's the world.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Anything is possible.
The Matrix, that's art.
I like that.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
That's the intro, hey .

Speaker 1 (03:39):
You didn't expect that change of heart.
That's the intro.
Oh shit, art.
That's the intro.
I really like that.

(04:21):
Matrix at part L, though I likethat.
The change up is nice too.
Did a good job with thetransition.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
I believe that too.
I'm going to strike two, sothis one is called Street Lights
.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Street Lights and the late nights.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
I had a kid shooting that already.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
It sounds like a fucking, like a Griselda type
beat yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
I can already hear that shit.
I don't want to say it's fire.
You do know your shit.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Squad here.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Mad niggas is dying.
You don't want that shit to be,you, right yeah?
I know you're going to hold itdown.
You know what I mean.
Just be careful, man.
These niggas out here ain'teven really worth it.
You're a nigga, I like yourstyle son Fucking belly bro,
that was from belly yeah.
Nice, that's his heart Homecooked meals.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
They can't hear you.
Oh yeah, they can.
Oh, they can Okay.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Home cooked meals.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Home cooked meals.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
This shit.
Molly Moore Second beat in.
I throw this shit.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
You got to market this shit oh yeah, no, they're
hearing all this, all this beinga dope Marketing.
Huh, this is hard.
This is hard, man.
Just make sure you rise aboveall this madness out here Mind
elevation man.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Fuck that petty shit, you don't need it.
Well, all right, I'm asinophile.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
You picked some good quotes, bro.
That was dope.
Try to tell a story withouthaving an artist on it.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Just like just telling a story.
What Just mind you like cryingbro, everyday life like an
artist.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
That instrument sounds dope.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
That's just fucking catchy bro.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Chill chops, bro.
That's just hard Good stuff,man.
Thank you, bro.
This one's called Never theSame, Never the Same.
This track in particular.
For me, it felt like it's thesoundscape of how my last year
was with my dad.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Oh wow, Okay, it's not inspiration.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
And to me that's what it feels like the texture of
the track, because this wholetape I really made it off of
feeling in a I mean that's withany art, but I was really
focused on the texture more thananything.
Like what is this.
Like each beat I thought of,like this is a different scene.
So your feeling is what kind ofinspired each one so what is
going to this scene of the moviein your life?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
your life is the movie looking at it.
Interesting.
That's how I went into so thisone's called.
That's the mindset you hadgoing into it.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, this one's called Never the Same.
Never the Same.
Oops, not that one, oh shit.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
I can hear Mick.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Jenkins on this.
Shout out to Mick Jenkins, myboy, nappy Huy.
He's doing a lot of recordswith him, so shout out.
It's hard.
Shout out to both of them, man,both dope artists.
Yeah, it's not.

(08:59):
I purposely didn't want it tobe polished.
I like the grid on.
It Sounds good.
I like it.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Your drums are dope too, Thank you bro you sedabbed
one of us a little bit, didn'tyou?

Speaker 4 (09:22):
I still do it All.
Right, there you go.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Cook up one of these guys man.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
See, that will set up in your place, man, when you're
ready.
You know, oh yeah, oh man.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
That was called never the same.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
That was hard.
I like it, like there's somesadness in there, but there's
like some hope in there too.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah, I saw it from Mick.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
So I like how he kind of just feels like a very
introspective sound to me.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
If I could describe it like yeah, gritty and deep
and dark.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
That was kind of yeah , it was like that.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
It's like there's, there's parts of it Sounds
bright, but then it sounds darktoo.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, it's mixed.
Yeah, it's like there you go.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
It's like bittersweet .

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah it's a bittersweet beat.
I like that.
I like that.
Get away with it.
Get away with it.
That would have been a goodname for it too Bittersweet,
Bittersweet Good name, Good wordfor it too.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
So the next one, this one's called dream.
This is it's hard.
I don't know which one's myfavorite, but this is one of the
ones I really like too.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Even though we face the difficulties of today and
tomorrow, I still have a dream.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
It's one of my favorite ones too.
Some of these elements too.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
You ever seen the Warriors?
Yeah, it's a good.
Sounds very like West Coastietoo.
Yeah.
I can hear like the best thebest.
That was when it was like theWarriors are good.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Now there ain't, but 20,000 police in the whole town.
Can you get it?
That's from the Warriors.
Can you get it.
It's hard because I don't knowif you caught that first part, I
might have spoke over it.
But he goes.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
You warriors are good , and then it's one of the main
characters like he's like thebest.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, it's hard, At least in the movie you're like.
I like how you put that inthere.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
I can definitely hear like Larry June on this, larry
June currency.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Oh, you know what my homie Nappy Hyde Shout out again
, bro?
He told me that he's like bro,I can hear currency on your shit
.
I'm like, yeah, let's do it,bro, I'm with it, I love this
one too, I still have a dream,still have a dream.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
That was hard.
I'm telling you, man, like thisis dope, you got a gift, bro.
You got a real gift man.
Thank you, bro, you're talentedbro.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
I appreciate that Hard.
That was hard.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
It's one of my favorite ones, for sure.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
That one was dope bro .

Speaker 1 (12:33):
That one in the first one they're all good.
I never heard the emotional one, I never gave it a good listen,
until now the one you're sayingthat kind of landscape.
That one was good too, man.
We went through somesimilarities, you know what I
mean, with our dad and all thatstuff.
Man, that was dope.
I never really knew that whenyou get the not the reason, but

(12:55):
the basis behind sometimes,sometimes the track, it'll
change the way it sounds for you.
I didn't know that that wasmeaning behind it.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
So now that I know that the motive and inspiration
that's what I was going to say.
Inspiration comes from good andbad.
As a creative and this is myhomie, memnach, alex, shout out
to Alex.
He told me he's like what we do, what we have, is like a gift
in the curse, because as artistsand creative, we have to live

(13:23):
life and go through things inorder to be creative and have a
draw from some type ofinspiration, whether it's happy,
good, sad.
But that gift of you, go liveand then you create your art
that, even if it's in your ownsuffering, you're still helping
someone else with your art,because it's like a gift that
occurs.
We got to do it and somethingwe have to do, but we have to.

(13:45):
Unfortunately, sometimes you gothrough pain and that's just
life Good times, bad times.
Everything can be used as aform of inspiration you can draw
from.
I agree, you know so.
He's like we have that ability,that gift, but it's a good,
it's a gift.
It's a curse in the sense oflike you go through pain and you
have to go through certainthings to get certain things out
of you, but the gift is you'reblessing the world with it and

(14:09):
you're helping others deal withwhatever they're battling or
what they're going through.
Shout out to Alex.
He gave me that perspective.
I was like bro, that's dope bro.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Like you said, though , man God's a genius, God is a
genius.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
We all got engineered right here, every single person
, bro, and I know people say oh,you know, I believe there's no
chosen ones.
I believe everyone has anability and a talent and a gift.
It's up to you whether you doit Like God will give you the
vision to something, but he willnot do the work for you.
I saw I don't know what I seenit Some pastor said he was like

(14:43):
God will.
He's like.
Look at an example.
He said he'll give youeverything you need to do the
goal, the vision, everything buthe's not going to do the work
for you.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
So like an example, he said there's a tree point
your weight.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
There's a tree right there in the, in the woods,
right that tree.
Depending on the vision, thattree can become a chair, that
tree can become a house, thattree can become multiple things
Bow and arrow or whatever,whatever it is but it's never
going to become those thingsunless you do the groundwork.
God gave you the vision, gaveyou the spark, that inspiration.
Now it's up to you to move offof that.
If you don't move, I believehe'll use someone else that's

(15:17):
willing to.
Yeah, no one's.
No one's better than no one.
I feel like everybody has thatability to tap into it.
You just got to be focused andtap into that.
So, just like that, like Godgives you an opportunity, what
are you going to do with it?
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
You got lazy people you gotta work.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
That's just life, you know, that's just life.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
I agree, just to go back.
All right, we'll go back to thetape, but this next one is uh,
it's called season 23.
Let's do it.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Oh Jordan.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Jordan in a sense, but I was born on May 23rd too,
okay, and season 23 last year.
So I kind of like you knowmakes sense.
So this kind of reminds me oflike the feeling of last year a
lot, along with the other one.
This is more like homes, oh, oh.
Yeah, home cooked.

(16:05):
Yep, that good, home cookedmeal man not fast food?

Speaker 4 (16:16):
I can hear you fucking call on this, yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah, okay, yo calling call.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Let's go, let's go, j Cole, j Cole, let's get it real
cold world.
You know this dog, I.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Just so smooth bro.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, I just, was in the background at a heart for
it's like a Shout out to my boyJ Viya.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
He added that sense down there.
I got him get on the track.
I added that so.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
You're gonna have you guys both on your pretty soon,
yeah, so shout out to him tovery talented I.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
I can hear me on this too.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Like you hear other artists.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
I love that it's versatile cuz that's a I give
you that compliment.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
You're very versatile man.
You know these beats sound thesame.
Oh, that's a talent bro.
Yeah, that's hard bro.

(18:10):
And you know what I want to say, that real quick, is that I do
feel that way, don't you like?
None of these beats sound thesame or now they're all so you
have yeah, you have a.
That's a talent, bro, socongratulations on that like
that.
I'm telling you, I like that.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
What I made this project, it was.
All the main thing was texture.
That's what I thought of.
Like the texture, like of like,how do I put it?
How's it feel?

Speaker 5 (18:31):
How does it?

Speaker 3 (18:31):
feel Like what it like and I feel like you know,
and from the responses I've beengetting, it I executed it well
cuz, yeah, everybody thatresponds is telling me things
that, oh, that's how I felt whenI made it.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
I'm glad it connected .
You know, without even anywords.
It connected with through the,through the music.
So I'm like man that's dope,like just seeing what it's kind
of like when you make an artpiece, because I paint too and
you like hanging up and youleave it open for critique.
Yeah and you see how that piece,what it speaks to that person,
yeah, this person, that personand then sometimes it gives you

(19:05):
a different like I never sawthat that's dope, like that
spoke that to you.
So it's kind of it's cooldifferent interpretations.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, that's dope.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
All right.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Art hits people in different ways and inspires
people in different ways.
It does his next one, call thisone a moonwalk, and this track
six.
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Oh yeah, it's beat egg, it's coming.
Just was the base.
Oh, she's starting.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
There's some groovy smooth they.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Probably something a wild card for this one.
I can hear Dom Kennedy on thisone.
Oh yeah, some reason I can hearabout some of this.
Dom is dope man.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yo, hey, any of those artists hit me up.
Man, I'm going to work foreverybody.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Let's go the ones we dropped.
So they named dropped at leastKind of has the same bounce as
Was that song he made CaliforniaCalifornia is for.
Has the same bounce to that.
For me Does that mean the drumsdown the same, at least similar

(20:57):
.
It's a different vibe, oversure.
I like this one, though Iforgot the name of the song I'm
thinking of, but this song'shard to read.
I like this beat though, yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Now it's called moonwalking she almost hard.
I just I don't know I named itthat cuz it felt like some
smooth, like I don't knowhonestly something, some outer
space shit.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
like you, listen to this shit on the Mars.
It was dope, though I like it,so this next one is called
higher.
This is another, like you'llsee this one's called higher.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Just tell him to church.
Yeah, thanks oh.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
The piano's hard.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
No, god, executive executive-produced disable.
God got executive producer.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Tsul어주 am.
Oh yeah, the drums, the pianoand the way you use the choir.
This is hard, oh to base,you're right.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Sometimes my beats are randomly arranged, but like
this one, sometimes I naturallyjust make it for an artist like
I.
Just how I arrange it just fitslike.
You caught that like oh, that'sthe hook.
Yet that's how I thought when Iwas making it.

Speaker 5 (22:49):
I was almost dope and it's too quickly.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Technique, technique to the madness so.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
Like big Sean on that shit.
Yeah, there you go.
That's it was hard.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Let's go, man any artist, let's go make me cue.
Well, not any.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
I can hear you's weird ass on this shit.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
This is the.
This next one is called God isgreat.
This is the last track on thealbum.
This is the, the last finalsong, oh yeah this is.
I don't know, I change everyday which one I like the most,
and I've heard this, this tablea million times because I made
it.
Yeah, but to me Maybe this one,I don't know, it's hard, it's
between this one.
It's a few of them, but Ireally leaning to this one.
This is one of my favorite ones.

(23:42):
This is the last track.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
God is great.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
All right, god is great, cuz God is great.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
I like that dodges Should be.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Oh Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
The impossible has happened.
Yeah, she's like huh Shit man.
Rest in peace, ben Scoby,you're a legend.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Now, there's such a strange thing There'll be times
where you succeed and there'llbe times that you fail.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
I should know that.
Just put one foot in front ofthe other.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Yeah, I can be sure of your fucking.
Baby on this Conway man, yeah,yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Kobe Bryant right there in that one.
That's, kobe, the control whichyou can't control.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
God it's great.
Is it that simple?
God it's great.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
No, there's no simpler than that, bro.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Did you know that?

Speaker 3 (25:34):
I mean, everybody knows that, but the way you know
it now did you know it beforethat.
You can know it all you want,but until you got to pick up
that cross that you can't carry,he picks it up for you, carries
you in the cross then you knowit.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
That was Kobe too.
Huh yeah, that was Kobe in.
Uh, what's his name?
Steven?

Speaker 3 (25:52):
A Smith Steven.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
A Smith, it's from an interview, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
It's hard, man.
Nice way to the end, bro, yeah,right.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Oh yeah, it's taking off.
Oh yeah, that's the tape, manYo that was hard, bro.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Cook Meals Volume 1 got more work.
That sure was beautiful bro.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Thanks, man.
Appreciate it, man.
Appreciate it, man.
Thank you guys for allowing meto play it on your guys'
platform, man.
No, that was hard bro.
Appreciate you bro.
Good job, man.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
We give our flowers out.
You want to smell them?
Yeah, man, you guys are dopeman.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
I appreciate that, bro, I watch you guys' episodes.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Thank you man, I'm subscribed, so we all we all on
the journey, we all keepgrinding.
Oh yeah, you know we get aroundgreatness, you become great.
So I feel like everybody at thetable here is great, bro.
So keep doing what you guys doand keep doing what I'm doing,
and we just all going to begreat man, everybody out there
whoever's watching, y'all begreat too, man.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah, everybody watching and listening, man, we,
we, hey, y'all be great.
That's the message here, forsure, man.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Use your pain or whatever you're going through in
life as inspiration and becomegreat out of that.
Don't let it beat you down.
Make it.
Use that as a stepping stone tobuild yourself and go up.
You know you only go throughthings to make you a better
person.
So look at it from thatperspective and know that God is
still in control and he's onthe throne and no matter how it
looks, he's always in control.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
So that's my message to people.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
You know the tape.
I hope it influenced everybodyin a positive way, you know so.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
You know, amen, thank you bro.
Thank you for that man.
I thought it was hard.
I really enjoyed it, man.
I know man Not too long, butyou know it's cool.
Yeah, no, I mean you, you, youstanding ovation bro.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
It was clean, bro.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Standing ovation man.
Thank you, guys, no.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
I appreciate you.
I like that that's hard.
It was hard, bro.
We really appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
You know vibing with us and showing with us and
giving our viewers and listenersexclusive.
You know they're now.
They're going to get ourreactions.
What did you think of that?
It's serious.
That shit was dope man.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
I mean just like you know.
I mean like you guys heard menaming off the artists that I I
can hear on it.
And that's, that's like.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
like, that's so same.
We're supposed to wait till theend and review, but we're
actively reviewing, man becauseit was dope, and you know like I
also double too.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
So it's like just hearing another creator is like
man, that's just what you know.
It actually inspires me too.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Man, that's awesome.
That's the best compliment.
If you can inspire someone else, that's like I got to.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
I got to step up.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, that's big and you want to get back on the show
.
That was like, yeah, that wasdope man.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Thank you, bro.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Make it, make a cook session happen, man.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah, man, I'm always open like.
I want to work with people thatare as passionate as me, man,
so I know, and you know, that'sjust what it is about, bro,
inspiring each other and, youknow, being great bro, of course
, 100% man, I love the two.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Bro was great hearing it again, like listening to it,
really paying attention to itdoing anything else in the
background, just payingattention to the beats it was.
It was phenomenal, bro, did youthink?

Speaker 3 (28:40):
thank you man.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Nothing shorter than what I expected.
Man, they call it a biasopinion or not.
Whatever, brothers or not,that's not a good.
I heard all his bad stuffgrowing up to now.
My boys, my boys definitely mybrothers definitely advanced in.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
it came a long way, man For sure.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
You know, from the growing pain years to now, man.
So that's, that's life right.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
I feel like my, my bad I'm not to cut you off, but
I feel like when you lovesomething and you're passionate
about it, you're going to becomegreat at it.
You, because you're not goingto stop, Because that passion,
that fire, even if you, you havea bad day, you're just, you
won't quit If you really love it.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
It's like an itch that you have to, you have to,
you have to, you have to.
Yeah, cause it's part of you,it's in you to do it.
You feel weird if you don't doit and you become you keep
getting better, bro.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
That's just how natural progression, you know
the but, the driving force ithas to be that passion.
If you know you don't love it,then you know you're not going
to give it, your all.
Yeah, you're not.
You're not going to give it thesame effort and you're not
going to get the same quality.
Of course, no, you're notreally not.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
It's all about approach too.
Yeah, you know, but at least mymy questions for you, man Like.
So what was the creativeprocess behind home cook?

Speaker 5 (29:43):
meals while you won.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Like is it?
Is it, was it what?
What did you?
Was it just what you were goingthrough or just how did you?
How did you make the the storyflow the way it did with the
music and the melodies?
Was it just something you didpiece by piece and then it all
just worked out, or did you justactually map it out the way you
did?

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Um, when I made it I had an idea in mind of how I
wanted it to feel and in thewhole message like home cook
meals, the title is like qualityover quantity, pretty much.
Yeah, that's like the basis ofit.
So you know, everybody loves agood home cook meal Of course
Good food, of course it's good.

(30:19):
It hits the soul.
You feel warm.
You feel so like the project.
I wanted it to feel like thatwhen I made the that, that that
be the theme of it.
Like everybody loves a goodhome cook meal, you know what I
mean.
You could go out and do yourthing, but you come back home,
bro, you get that goodnourishment.
You get that good what you need.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
That's a message to the brand name of it.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, so it's like good home cook meal good quality
, quality, everything like music, art, quality over quantity.
It has to be great.
It has to be not rushed, ofcourse, like just like a home
cook meal.
You can't rush the process.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
You know, and then the end of it is great, it's
great meal it's filling it.
Yeah, it's filling, it's forfilling Nourishment it's like.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
Put the love into it.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Like you said earlier , like no passion is no point.
So that's that's the premise ofthe project, where I came up
with the name and the feel of it, the texture, like I've been
saying, that's, that was theinspiration for it.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I wanted to be me, to dedicate it to my pops rest in
peace, that's why I use thatpicture

Speaker 3 (31:20):
of me and my, my dad when I was a baby as the cover,
because it just you know that mydad means the world to me.
You know.
I know I'm going to see himagain someday and just the
things he left me and the man Iam today is because of my pops.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
So just just kind of like paying homage to my dad.
Rest in peace.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
So rest in peace, my pops.
I know you're in a better place.
We'll see you soon, you know.
So that that that's like themain premise of the project and
I I'm going to do a series of it.
So this is just volume one.
I'm already I probably gotalready like 20 beats ready for
that.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
That was my next question, Like what can they
expect volume two Very, verysoon.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Because I haven't stopped, like when I dropped
this, I just kept.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
I'm in this mode of just how many?
How many is there?
How many volumes are you goingto release in this particular
series?

Speaker 3 (32:03):
I'm thinking three and then I'm going to call it a
rat.
But we'll see.
It could change, it could bejust two, I don't know.
But so far the way I'm, I'mworking and I've been very
inspired.
You never know.
So it's like I got a bunch ofheat, more heat in the, in the
stash.
It's just kind of like anotherreason I haven't done a project
in like shit if you go, probablyin a couple of years, so this

(32:24):
is like long overdue.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Make me personally.
I know I had an enemy.
I just.
You know life is crazy andsometimes you got to live first
before you can sit down andreally create.
So I feel, like you know ittook me a while, but everything
I believe like God's timing isthe right timing.
So I needed to go through whatI needed to go through, to know
in order to make this project.
So, like you can't rush theprocess, and that's that's what

(32:48):
I'm.
I'm giving you know to theworld.
I appreciate every singleperson out there that enjoys it.
You know good or bad, too.
You know whatever it makes youfeel.
If it makes you feel something,that's that's something that's
good.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
That's an accomplishment.
Yeah, that's when you didsomething, for sure.
Yeah, no doubt that'sdefinitely something you got to
remember.
It made someone to feel sometype of way or, like you said,
inspired them.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah but I've been getting hell like a lot of great
feedback.
It doesn't go over.
Look everybody that's giving mea beautiful comment and tell me
really how they feel.
I appreciate every single oneof you because you guys don't
owe me nothing.
You know I mean so it's goodwork, man.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Good works to be, you know, appreciated.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Thank you, bro, I appreciate that big facts bro,
you deserve it bro.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Thank you man, I was gonna ask you if you're is the
jeff any questions for aboutproject and.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Thank you for the, for the, for letting us listen
to a man for you, man.
Damn, I think I.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
I mean I got one that I'm gonna take from you that
you asked J Viola last time.
We had him on the show.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Oh the workflow.
Yeah, what's your workflow,how's your process like?

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, that's a good one.
Are we that someone borrow thatquestion?
Like what, what's your, what'syour process?
Like what's your workflow,how's your workflow and what's
your process?
It's make?

Speaker 3 (33:57):
beats.
I don't know, it's different,so every time cuz.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
It's not every beat you make is for a beat tape,
right?

Speaker 3 (34:02):
So yeah, yeah, I was just the creative process, like
if I'm making a beat.
I don't always approach it thesame way because it gets boring
to me, because there's a certainyou can get and I know you, you
, you, we all experience thislike mm-hmm, where you do a
certain for me.
You know a certain way whatyou're gonna get, but then it
becomes like copy paste and itdoesn't feel Genuine or as good,

(34:23):
yeah, I could do that.
But then a fulfilling, just apersonal thing to challenge
myself.
I'll approach it in differentways, like Sometimes I'll have
I'll start off with drums, first, no melody, and then I'll
approach that, and then I'lljust get a melody and I'll start
building around that.
Or sometimes I'll just get aold record, chop that up.
Yeah, the process of buildingsee how that feels and then and
then, once I got the beat going,then I think what is this beat

(34:46):
speak to me like?
And that's where I get theaudio clips.
It's a beat tape, so I can getreally creative in the sense of
like I'm not making it for anartist, so I don't have to leave
space.
I can kind of like there's norules really.
Yeah, there's no rules with theartist too, but yeah, you still
you have to when you'reproducing for someone.
You have to keep that in mind.
Like Less is more, becausethey're an instrument to they

(35:07):
add to the tracks you can't overright you can have a crazy ass
beat and then it has no spaceand the artist can't do nothing
with it.
He might love the beat, but youdidn't, you have to.
That's that balance where it'slike Just enough but not too
much enough to like give them sothey can get up.
Just our job as producers andCreatives, like that, is to
spark that inspiration.
Like if I go in the studio withsomeone and I and they're

(35:29):
sitting there and I'm playingthem beats and and then I can
get the reaction.
I know I let it play, I'm likeall right, got him, yeah, that's
it.
And then I'll end up justletting them do their thing.
I set back because they gotthey might that they're inspired
.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
They're inspired.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
They caught the spark .

Speaker 3 (35:44):
I don't want to slow that up.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
Let them get they got to get off and there, and this
is what you're working with,right?

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, and then later we can go after they record idea
.
They got the, the hit or theidea just out yeah you know I'm
saying then then I could go backand do post-production and beef
it up and yeah, with his orhers vocals and just be like are
they said this here?

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Let me add this, and then you know, I mean tie it all
together and make it.
It's a process.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
It's a process and it's different every time.
So Sorry, no good.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
No, no I don't.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
I don't know how every other artist and producer,
but I don't like to approachlike my music or anything I do,
the same way.
I like to keep it fresh everytime it keeps me excited.
Yeah, like, oh, okay, cool.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Have you had any and you don't got to send any names,
just like I told Jay by likeYou've, you've had any riffs
with anybody and I got told Ilike I said mem knock.
I told me mem knock.
You know he struggled a littlebit with engineers Because he
was arguing with them.
So with you did you have any ofyour any issues with anybody,
any recording artists.
You ran any issues,disagreements, because I feel
like what you said is I likethat you can like a tie-bon and

(36:42):
add something to it.
You read someone like no, Idon't want you to add nothing to
it, leave it along the way.
This arguments maybe notspecifically that, but like have
you read any like pushback.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Yeah, I've had.
I've had artists that we buttheads, you know.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
For for sure what you want.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
No, I just, it's just .
I'm not gonna say names oranybody like that.
I don't got no beef for nobody.
But yeah, that's natural,that's gonna happen with anybody
You're gonna have, especiallywhen you're creating a project
together.
You're gonna have yourdifferences.
It's the.
The point is to get to a commonground and First of all, if
you're gonna do a project withsomeone or a song, you have to I
feel, personally you have toalready mesh with that person.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
Yeah, when it's forced it.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
You could do it, you can make it happen, make
something happen, but I don'tthink that magic or that it's
not gonna be there because thechemistry is not there.
So, yeah, you need to have thatchemistry.
Like so I like to.
When I meet artists, I like tokick it with them before you
even do any music.
Let's kick it, make sense.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
I'll put up.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
We make sure you bro, it's gotta be a good vibe,
because I've done situationswhere I don't do that and I just
jump into it and then it's justweird different process yeah
and then the end result it's nothappy, I'm not happy with it,
they might not be happy orwhatever the cases.
So I don't like to force shit.
I like it to be organic, I likeit to be natural and like you
know, you fuck with me becauseyou fuck with what I do, and

(37:59):
just like I fuck with you and wehave that healthy respect when
you're gonna get off yourcreativity, I'm gonna get off
mine, and then the end result isgonna be adult project.
You know, yeah, it's gonna belike, okay, we respect each
other's lanes and we cametogether, we, we came together,
made this new world, just thisproject.
And so, yeah, I've had, I havemy differences, that's.
I feel like that's natural, butI feel like the good I Feel,

(38:23):
like what makes me adultproducer, not to toot my own
horn, but I'm with the overallvision.
So like, let's say, I bringthem a beat and they want to
take away some stuff, and thenthey had ideas and I hear them
out.
I'm always open.
I'm not a producer.
I'm like this is how it is, I'mnot changing shit.
I've met producers like that.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
Yeah, I'm not like that.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
I'm like yo.
Both our names are on this.
Let's make the best product,let's make the best shit that we
can make, right, the best pieceof art I agree that we can make
, and that's what's gonnaresonate with people, not, oh,
I'm gonna overpower you oryou're gonna overpower me now.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
We got to be together , common, yeah, we gotta be on
the common ground and when weget there, it's gonna be great.
But if we can't, get there.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Then you know, unfortunately it doesn't happen,
but it's cool.
You know Some people you learn.
There's lit, there's lessonswhere you work with them again.
And you know, and there's somepeople I've never worked with
again.
I don't have no bad blood withthem, I just don't want to go
through that course experienceagain.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
So it's just like it's all good, yeah, I mean, I
don't, I don't hate nobody,that's just that.
You know, that's that and it'sbeing real about it.
Honestly, what would you say?
Your, your take is now onhip-hop more it's going, and if
not just that, particularlybecause I know you say you
produce for anything, any typeof genre, right.
Yeah what do you?
What do you think the next waveis like?
Do you think that?
Because I saw something onlinethat was interesting to me.

(39:36):
As far as rap goes, they'resaying that the top three, you
know obviously being Drake, jCole and Kendrick, not in that
order.
You know, I'm saying but those,those, those top, those top
three.
They're the last ones with therunner-ups you guys felt you got
.
How do you both feel about that?

Speaker 5 (39:49):
I'm gonna go JJ first and I'll go.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Sure, all right, we'll go JJ first and then
furious on your opinion, no.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
I think there is still dope music out there.
I think the industry chooses tofocus on certain shit, but
there is a lot of badass artistsout there.
You just got to look.
It's just with the public, themainstream nothing against the
mainstream, but like what theychoose to promote and Shit like
that.
There's a lot of people thatare better than some of the top.
Oh yeah that's true.

Speaker 5 (40:16):
I'm just gonna say that.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Yeah, there's a lot of people that are just not look
.
They're like I like to callthem like diamonds in the dirt,
bro.
They just haven't been foundyet and I, even myself I feel
like you always tell me this theright years haven't heard it.
So I, I do it because I enjoyand I, but you can tell like I
always feel like the cream ofthe crop is always gonna.
You can't beat classic shit,timeless shit, timeless talk.

(40:41):
When something is timeless, bro.
It doesn't matter what era isgonna always fucking shine, it
doesn't matter.
Yeah, when you make qualityshit, it overpowers all the
bullshit, because you can havean artist that just pumps out.
They're just great at pumping.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Music, but it doesn't mean it's good.
No, yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
So what good is if you're pumping out all this shit
and it's a bunch of bullshitlike you're.
You're better off Just takingyour time and putting out.
But if you can master bothwhere you can put out fast and
quality you're.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
But that's why they have ghost writers and teams now
, because, you know, because thesame thing, yeah, but with that
.
But I think also, like, likeyou're talking about, you know,
people that are pulling out justlike no bullshit.
I think they're probably justin it just for the business.
It's not really about the facts, I know, say like, like, like
it is about the art.
Well, at the same time, they'remostly about the bad.
You can hear it in the in themusic.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
You can hear it and that in those, and then if
that's what you're doing, okay,cool, that's what you want to do
.
But if you want to be here andyou want to last, you want to
really resonate with people,you're gonna have to do a little
bit Hard to work no sure, andand like yeah, bro, that micro,
I call it microwave shit likeit's trendy shit, microwave you
never go wrong.
If you notice in anything inculture in general, the classic

(41:53):
shit always comes back, nomatter what, whether it's
fashion.
There's certain fashions thatnet like, let's say, jordans.
In any era, jordans alwaysdunks Chucks he's gonna test the
time they just let.
There's certain pieces ofcertain things that just it's
timeless, so it's never gonna go.
It might have a run where itkind of fades away, not it, but
it never dies out.
It comes back and all thetrendy other shit it falls by

(42:16):
the wayside.
Yeah, all those bullshitartists that I call it microwave
music because they're notreally taking the time not to
shit on people's art.
But, bro, like when you, whenyou're presenting something, I
feel like you should really takethe time to like have thought,
I put time into it, like I getit.
You want to get a bag, that'scool, but that, if that's your
motive, I Feel like the artsuffers because of that.

(42:38):
Yeah, when you have that's yourmotive is to.
I just got to make a shit loadof money.
Cool we all got to make money,we all got to work, but then you
, that's what you want to be,that's on you, but that's your
legacy.
Yeah, you wanted that shit tobe that.
Or do you want to be like me?
Last night I was hanging outwith Alex and we're talking
about that.
I rather have he said, I'drather be the career that's

(42:59):
longevity, that slow, you know,up up climb right.
But they got along that slowbuild, that slow burn.
You know then the guy that justshoots to the top and then boom
, boom, boom and then he fallssix, nine.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
That's it, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
In a curse like that's a blessing you blew up so
much, but the fact that therewas no time to really develop
and Grind it and it's justinstant.
Yeah, the shit don't stick, bro, it just do.
You're right, let me look whathappened to his career?
Nothing, against nothing,against him, no, that's all.

(43:36):
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, justlike just people that are just
for the moment, just clown shit,gimmick shit.
It's just if that's what youwant to do, cool, that's what
you want to do, you could dothat.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, but you're not gonna be a legend, you're not a
vision, they're gonna be cultureis gonna forget about you.
Yeah, they shouldn't have beenthere in the first place.
I feel like man yeah becausefor what I mean, get it.
You want to be there just forthat for a moment, then yeah,
but he could have, he could have, you know, played.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
Play the game differently.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yeah, definitely no, most out.
I'm actually having all thatattention, no doubt.
Yeah, most definitely made hischoices.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
You know I'm saying cuz it's not like he can't do
what what he does.
Yeah, he was just probably inthe wrong crowd.
You know he was asked.
You know what I think?

Speaker 3 (44:14):
I think, with his situation, he probably and I
don't know, you know, but hemight have had the wrong people
guiding him.
Yeah, and yes, man, who knows,I don't know.
I'm just guessing Some peoplethat just probably looking at
him as a come up and they're notreal genuine with him.
Because if you got real genuinepeople around you, they're
gonna check you whether you likeit or not.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
You know, you got people around you that love you.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
They're gonna stop you from crashing out.
So I'm sure, yeah, if they careabout you, you know.
I mean I don't know hissituation, but any artist like
it's important to surroundyourself with like good people,
really not, I agree, and whatdoes he do?

Speaker 1 (44:49):
what if?
What a pops always tells?
Tell me who your friends are, Itell you.
You are facts.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
I always tell us that man my dad.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
He's always tells that whenever we were hanging
out with a shady group of people, or whatever the case was he
didn't agree with, he would tellus my dad, my dad didn't
sugarcoat nothing.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
Yeah, but it's true though.
Yeah, I'll see your closestfile, is you know, kind of you
know who you were.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Just demonstrate who you are.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
Resonate with it.
That's, you know, that's.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
That's what you're gonna spend your time with.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Yeah, that's what they say like cliche people will
be like oh Well, you know,you've heard those things where
they say like oh, you got.
You want to hang out withpeople that are better, like I
want to hang out with bettermusicians better, of course,
because that's gonna help meelevate.
I don't know everything rightas long as I keep the mentality
that I don't know everything andI can always learn.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
Yeah, I'm always gonna get better.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Oh yeah, that's how you grow and it's actually if
someone's willing to give me thegame, yeah, I'm gonna shut up
and listen.
You want to give me some gemsand knowledge?
Thank you for even doing that.
You don't owe me shit.
So anybody that want to give megems, I'm gonna shut up and
listen.
And if I know it's coming froma genuine spot because you can
tell if someone's bullshit youknow I say like this you listen
to the people that that haveresults and they know what's up,

(45:56):
yeah, they're doing not a, nota like.
It's like you're not gonnalisten to someone.
That's broke.
No, tell you how to be.
Come rich advice from thatCan't.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
I mean you.
You can take advice of that, ofhow to not what, to not Become
a millionaire.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
They don't even got a million themselves so how you
gonna tell me what to right.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
Can't tell me shit.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
No, it's true.
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
But that just like that, like being around better
people, and it helps you inchecking your ego, knowing that
you can always learn.
That's a big humble yourself,because I've had ego trips
everyone.
I know everybody has one pointwhen I learned to check myself
and humble myself.
You'd be surprised how muchpeople really want to help out
when you're a genuine, when youcheck your own ego, because the

(46:38):
ego could put your own.
Your own ego can block your ownopportunity.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Hell you know, you put your fucking foot in your
mouth.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
You got to learn to just check that shit, that door,
like look, I'm not better thanno one, no one's better than me.
I'm here for a purpose and ifthey're willing to give me game.
And they got the accolades andthey got the stats, I'm a listen
.
Yeah, you know, I'm saying likethey, they clearly got
somewhere where I need to go, orI'm trying to get you, trying
to figure out how and they wantto give that knowledge for me
for free.
Yeah, why would I not?
You know so Good people, peoplethat are passionate, people

(47:08):
that are just hungry, like you,like minded and creative, of
course.
You know, you know, yeah, yeah,consistency, consistency to you
know, it's like the gym, it'slike anything you get better
every time you go.
That's another woman.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Yeah, the gym, the consistency man, you know what,
you know what?
One thing I noticed, to andit's so true.
You can't expect those resultsIf you're not expecting, if
you're not, if you're not tryingto be uncomfortable or being
pain.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
I feel like that's part of the growth, would you
agree?
Pain is the pain is part of thegame.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, it's part of the game and like not to sound.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
You know what do they call that a cliche.
But pain is game.
Honestly, you know games.
Okay, were you in pain.
Yeah did you I think, did youstress your muscles at all today
?
Did you actually go in thereand keep your body guessing and
walk out sore?
That's how you know.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
You did see, but I think that that is Necessary.
That's part of the process.
It is necessary because I feellike it teaches you.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
You know, I don't appreciate it too, yeah, so we
do get the reward.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
You're gonna appreciate a lot more because
you.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
And it hurt and you it was a good pain.
Yeah, you swear for it You're.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
It's gonna humble you because you're gonna know why I
went through a lot to do getthis.
I want to keep it too.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
I want to keep you.
I got a respect, yeah and Ihave to.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
You know what I mean Whereas if you're just spoiled a
little brat, you're gonna gethandy something.
You're not gonna give a shitabout it as much as you had to
work for that.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
You know no no, sir, and it's all ties in the work
ethic and being able to bedisciplined.
Just like you be disciplined tothe gym, you gotta be
disciplined to sit down and workon your craft to facts right,
so it's a very it goeshand-in-hand yeah it's all good.
All this has does has to go tiein with the topic of his music,
because it's true, like you, tobe anything decent in life,
you're gonna have to put effortinto it.
At you know, work ethic andthen consistency, yes sir right

(48:42):
and work hard.
So you're a lazy-ass person andyou expect to have winning
results.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Good luck.
I heard Dom Kennedy said.
He said like good luck, people,people got.
People got a million dollar,dreams but a minimum wage work
ethic that's cuz, that's true,man.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
Remember you said that somewhere in some interview
or I could get what I heardmaybe it was on a record.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
I forget but I was like that shit stuck with me,
cuz I'm like yo, that's facts,like people talk all day,
everything, but they don't wantto work.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
Yeah, I'm gonna go.
What are?

Speaker 2 (49:13):
you doing to get that ?

Speaker 4 (49:20):
We're almost the design to work, bro, like yeah,
notice bro like when you stopmoving right, especially like
people who.

Speaker 5 (49:28):
Retire right when they stop moving.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Oh, I don't want to work anymore, right.
The atrophy, the muscles getsmaller.
You know, I'm saying yeah stopmoving, they start dying faster.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
They do.
That's what we little movearound.
I think it's because you losepurpose.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
You have to always have purpose.
You have to be moving towardssomething.
Work Is part of life.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
It is, it is now now.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
That's why it's a work, exactly that's why it's
important to pick the type ofwork you actually want to be
involved in too, because Our,our, our work is still work in
some, in some fields, you know,considering what we're doing.
Yeah, yeah, but a lot of thetime it feels kind of just like
I know I'm not supposed to bedoing this, I'm not enjoying
this, I don't like, I don't likethis stepping stone.
Exactly that's how you have tobe grateful for still even

(50:08):
having that.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
It's all about our luck for sure.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
Yeah, perspective, you know, and, and we still
learn things from that too.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
That's right, you know.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
so yeah, it's not necessarily bad things, but it's
like you know, we learn how to,how to appreciate life more
there, for sure for, you know nodoubt, a lot of shit.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Yeah, no definitely.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Yeah, man, we love Steve.
Everybody wants more leisure,but they don't want to work hard
to get there.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
They can dream, yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
I don't know, but it is it?
Bro opportunity here, though,for sure.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Yeah, bro, it's all there is.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
There's definitely make it happen where you live a
life of leisure you just got toput in the work for I've heard
people that come from like Worstbackground, that weren't born
here, that come from withnothing and then they grind,
they put their, kids to privateschool through all this crazy
rolls because they did, becausethey wanted, they wanted,
they're asking

Speaker 2 (50:53):
me what it is about them.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
They don't give a shit about what people think, so
because they tune that out,they just have a mission and
they stay on that and they andthey apply and they apply
themselves.
Look and I saw this.
I saw this, bro.
I think it was Buster Rhymesthat said it.
Legend to he was like it's onlydelusion until it happens.
Because, once it's real, thosesame people are like, oh shit,

(51:15):
it works.
Yeah my fuck is a genius.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
And you figured it out.
That's what he said and I waslike damn yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
And you look crazy until you're vision, but it's
because God gave you that visionto execute.
It's not for that.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
I'm for everyone else .

Speaker 1 (51:27):
It's for you to go carry it out, make it happy, and
there's no what happens, thenyou make them to believe it, bro
, and it's like and there's noguy, there's no guidelines to it
, man.
No, no so there's no guidelinesto the grind, bro.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Look at the gym right there, bro yeah that was in
mind that I got that from BusterRhymes.
I was dope, I seen that.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Delusion until it's reality.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
You have to keep that bro because honestly, like I
mean, I mean, you know Russright?
Yeah yeah, he in his book hekind of speaks of that too.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
I got his book too.
By the way that you talk aboutthat, I forget the name of it,
the yellow one, yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Yeah, it says get out of your own way.
Get out your own way, check itout.
It's a good book, short read,but it's good.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
I have it if you don't, yeah please, I don't want
to read it.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
That sounds good.
I have to finish it.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
I started it, but you know another, but time on my
damn shift.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
Yeah, cuz like yeah goes in in a detail about you
know, just like you know, likemanifesting, because basically,
what that?
That's like what it is, youknow, but it's like, of course,
the outside, from the outsidelooking in, you're gonna look
crazy.
It's like yeah, of course, andso you have to believe in
yourself, and you have to justsee it through and to see to add
on to what you're saying, brothis world that we live in.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Someone dreamed about this design, of this place,
that we're in this building.
Yeah, someone dreamt that anddesigned it and made it happen.
It might have been greatSomeone.
This whole world was developedby dreamers, if you think about
it.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
People that are bold enough.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Yes, sticks and stones.
It's like shout out my homie,jelani.
We like to say, with these twohands in a shovel, I can do it,
I could build it's like a littlesaying that we say back and
forth to each other likemotivate each other.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
Just two hands, and bro Jelani, he's tellin me, with
these two hands I could build,I could build anything.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
It's like one brick at a time, bro, I can, I can do
anything.
Because it's true.
Now, this is true when they sayuh, whether you can or can't,
you're right.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
That's so, whether whether you can do it or you
can't do it or you can't do it.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
It's on you.
What are you?

Speaker 4 (53:16):
choosing honestly.
Man can't lives on won't street.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Yeah, can't lives on won't street and I got the Can't
live on won't street right thewrong time.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
I've been somehow wet for some reason, but yeah, it's
, true though you know.
You can, you can't.
That's you're right.
That's your own thought process.
Your mind is powerful.
Believe that, like people don'twant to, your mind is powerful,
bro.
What you choose to focus on,that's what's gonna, like you
said, manifest.
You know your thoughts becomeyour actions.
Actually become, or yourthoughts become words, words

(53:50):
become your actions.
You know you keep moving downthat.
So think good thoughts, thinkhighly of yourself.
The world already kicks our assenough.
Why are you gonna be your ownenemy?

Speaker 4 (53:58):
No, I agree, I think.
I think that's sometimes, youknow, we, we forget that we're
the ones driving this vehicle,you know?
I mean, it's really up to us.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
It's like yeah, I like that.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
Sometimes people are waiting on a God-given, you know
opportunity.
You have to make theopportunity you woke up today.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
That's your God-given opportunity.
Anybody out there?
You're looking for a sign youwoke up, there's your
opportunity.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
Do it.
You're in the driver's seat.
Yeah, yeah, fucking driver'sseat.
It's like that's just real.
But I think you know we get socaught up in habits and just the
way you know I'm saying comfort.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
Yeah, we just forget.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Yeah, no, no we're on like automatic pilot or some
shit.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Yeah, just doing shit .
That's why, like comfort iskind of bad.
It's always good to putyourself in an uncomfortable
situation, that's what you get,to see what you're made of, and
you can see what you reallyShout out, to shout out to Andy
Minio.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
He said that when his album uncomfortable.
The whole album is basicallyabout that.
Yeah he's singing in the in thetrack.
In the first track song he'slike I got too comfortable.
You get to get out of thatcomfort zone order to grow.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
It's so true, man Like that's that way in that
you're looking is on that, thework you don't want to do?

Speaker 5 (54:57):
I know, that's cliche too, huh but it's true, the
work aside, so I'm not aside oneverything you're avoiding.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Do that, do the shit, the shit that you want to do
the least Covers, and exactly no, there's no cutting quarters
bro.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
It'll be told you know, you know where I say it'll
be shown, like a lot of artistsI'm not gonna say who, but
there's artists I like to cutcorners in the sense of I'm
gonna look bigger than Iactually really am.
Yeah, because I don't want tolook.
No, you just don't want to earnit.
You need to earn, I agree.
And they chew that.
They buy followers, do all thisfuck shit that they do and to
me.
It's amazing that you know whatshout out a to you that whoever

(55:30):
that is the artist that do that,everyone knows that you're
bullshitting.
I just want to let you know.
Everybody knows you're fakingit.
Everybody knows you'rebullshitting and I'm gonna tell
you why.
When you do a show, if thisshit Don't match up to what the
fuck you're trying to put on theinternet because it's easy to
fool on the internet People willtell it's gonna show.
So don't cut corners.
Do the work, do the work.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
I agree no what else go where I was going like no,
where I was going with that isthat it kind of goes back in the
Lay was only pops and popswould tell us, yeah, and when
you, when I was lazy, I wouldcut corners and he would say
lazy man works twice yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
I gotta get my ass back.
Yeah, do it right this time.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Shout out my pops he literally have a book of quarter
balls.
Well, he was a guy.
Every time, anybody knows himanybody knows.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
My pops knows like he always got a gem for you all
the time always did man, nomatter what, and he would always
.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
And he taught me you know perseverance and also how
to do shit right the first time.
So you want to revisit it.
Ladies, man, we're twice on youalways tell me cuz it's true,
man.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
Not only that, tomorrow is the only day that
appeals to a lazy man as well.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Oh, I like that.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
It's crazy that we're having this like.
Where just guess.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
I have no idea, my never.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
You're dead, nice here yeah, I should post it like
he that's hard.
Any posted it on my door man?

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Yeah, just like I saw it every day, bro, that's
because that's true and that,and you know what, if you're
like, oh, but I'm gonna day offtomorrow, so I don't want to so
to low key is kind of like apiece of the lazy man.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
That's what, yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
Yeah, that's tomorrow that goes tomorrow's only day.
That appeals to a lazy man.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Cuz, it's true, you, I'll do it tomorrow.
You put it up.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Yeah, never comes, and there's always a tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Yeah, whether you're there or not, was it tomorrow,
was it?

Speaker 1 (57:31):
I think you're in Rocky Rocky.
Remember that Rocky 3 Apollorest in peace.
To get back to the plate,apollo, there is no tomorrow, he
tells me.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
And I don't feel like I fully master, that it takes
time to master.
Yeah, bro, when you really, ifit's like let's you have, to
have.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
You have to take the risk.
I think it was as a person.
Oh we're gonna this episode.
That's what's about, guys notonly the beat tape, but also how
to just take your life into can, into, into into your hands and
help, help actually boostyourself right in advance in
life.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
But if you really keep that urgency of like, oh
shit, this is my last day, yeah,how would you really live?
No, I was really.
If that was really, I was gonnasay that I was like, I was like
, I think it could be.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
It could be where I was going with this.
Is that everybody great?
If you guys notice, likeeverybody, that's great.
This is what they do, they,they, they think differently
than everybody else.
You have to come off almostcrazy to everybody else around
you.
They don't understand itbecause they don't have the same
type of work, ethic and grind.
And you do and they don't have.
They don't see your vision.
So to them it's gonna be,you're gonna look crazy.
What the fuck is he?
Yeah, why'd you leave that job?

(58:33):
No, no, built I mean like why'dyou do?
Well, they don't know whatyou're doing, bro, they don't
understand it.
Not supposed to?

Speaker 3 (58:37):
yeah, they're not supposed to know, built the art.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah, when him, when him, when the Giants
and all those other teams weregetting wiped out by the water
in the Leviathan.
Yeah, you want to get on thatboat now, huh.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
You know that's the truth, man.
You got to look at that as anhonor, like oh God chose me to
carry this mission out, though.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Yeah, man, I'm gonna carry that with honor Honestly,
man, cuz we all got a road toplay.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
In the overall picture, you got your role to
play.
I got my role in it all buttogether is man.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
Majority people don't think like that, bro they don't
yes you know, saying like it'sdope that you do, yeah, but
people, a lot of people are justlike so, like what can I get?
Like right now, you know me.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Yeah, I mean thinking in that.
So so I think, that has to dowith being too.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
Oh, you're right and I could be wrong.
I think yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
No, no.
But I think the reason why theyhad that mentality and I'm just
me outside looking in myopinion I think it's because
they're not tapped into like,they're just materialistic.
They might just look at thelike physical.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Yeah, they want immediate satisfaction.
Yeah, they're not looking atthe long-term goals here.
They're not looking at.
Oh, how am I gonna feel aboutthis in three years?
No, I want theself-gratification right now.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
Yeah but I want to be right now.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
I don't have it right now, Then I don't want it all.
Exactly I don't want it all.
That's because they're notpatient.
They don't want.
They want to live those lavishand those crazy lives right now.
They want to have the moneyright now.
They don't understand thatlater matters more than right
now.
Right now it doesn't matter.
Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
I think I think urgency is only Apply to like
get it going.
You need to have urgency.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Hell, hell.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Fuck it if you fuck up, just start start you're
gonna fuck up.
That's just a fact.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
I can't avoid that like Dwayne Johnson, the rock
said, man he's like, is it gonnabe one day or day one?

Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
Yeah you go, man.
I was like so treat like dayone, day one, or one day, or me,
yeah, are you gonna start?

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
You got to start.
That's basically who's gettingit.
Are you gonna keep saying I'llget my life together or I'll
clean up my act or I'll get inbetter shape one day, or is Take
today's day one oh, I want togo.
I'm gonna go talk to me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
You go, you go, I want to talk to that girl one
day.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Yeah, okay, what if that you take too long, that
girl.
Now another guy, another guythat said no, I'm not waiting
one day, I'm doing it now, yeah,you miss, your, you miss you
know If you ask me, to lifewhere there's love.
Yeah, business, do it now.
Yeah, jump into it, fuck it,mess up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
It's okay, yeah, exactly guys, so you won't know
until you try bro.
No, you won't fear.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
fear, that's fear oh no fear false evidence appearing
real, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
That's what false evidence I don't know.
That's a good one too.
That's a real one, falseevidence appearing real,
crippling for no reason, bro.
It's bullshit.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Yeah, fear is you creating that in your mind?
There's a wall that's not there.
I agree, man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
So I mean, if you guys want to continue this, so
let's just stay on this topicbecause I like it.
This is this for those outthere still listening and
watching, if you haven't alreadycaught on to it by now.
This episode is not just aboutJJ you know JJ's music it beats,
but it's also about selfperseverance, self, self, self,
self, self improvement selfawareness For sure big time,
because if you're living isstuck in a cycle and you're not

(01:01:40):
advancing at all in your life.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
What are you not self ?

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
aware.
You're not self aware exactly.
You're just going through itday in, day out, with no purpose
, no goal.
Well, they say they say theyneed worker bees like that.
They love people that power, mydream people.
Some people love that shit.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
They were you need, you need both you know just come
here and do what you're told.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
That's my love Now.
But people like you know,individuals that individuals,
people like individuals that weknow that are just worker bees.
They know nothing better andthey have no sense of self worth
.
So they since they don't evencare about themselves, they're
gonna come and do their jobs thebest they can because they have
nothing better going on intheir life.
But that's a decision that theymade.
Yeah, you gave up.

(01:02:15):
You didn't want to try to bebetter.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
You know saying, and that's not just that individual,
that's everybody that canrelate to what I'm saying you
chose to be in that position.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
You chose to end up.
Those are choices you make,whether you conscious of them or
not.
Right you, your actions, areyou're part of your
decision-making.
Man fear you, that's thereality of it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
You know, and the thing, oh that yeah one thing
about sorry to talk.
No, you're good, but good butthe thing about it, too, is like
I was thinking about this theother day and I was thinking
about it and it was just like itdoesn't matter what age you are
either, bro, no, no age four,five, six, that's you're making
choices.
You know, and as fucked up asit is, you're gonna have
consequences, all of them, fromday one.

(01:02:52):
Stay one your choice.
Even if you're not, you know, ifyou're not fully aware to even
make those choices you're doing.
Yes, there's consequences, man.
Like kids, they might drinkfreaking windex or some shit you
know say oh fuck becausesomeone's not there to watch
them, yeah, you know.
But so well, choices arepowerful, you know, doesn't?
Yeah, life doesn't care abouthow old you are, doesn't care
about any of that.
It doesn't it is what it is,you know so that's like I

(01:03:14):
understand how urgent it is.
Yeah that's when you know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
That's when you can be somewhere.
You're awake.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
That's real because, honestly like, decisions are the
portal to your next reality.

Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
That's fact your decision is good portal to this.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
You're saying whatever you manifest, you
walked through a certain timeyou, you have only you to blame
exactly that's a go to add on towhat you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
The quality of your living depends on your actions.
The better, the better life youlive is depends on what you
decide today.
Yeah so for it.
The quality of your life isgonna be based on your choices.

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
Looking at my life man, I'm like that shit as fuck
out.
I'll never doubt that shitagain.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Yeah, I'll say anything personal out loud.
You know why you think thosethings and feel those things.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
I feel you cuz that, me too.
I could go back and be likeFuck that shit, fucked me up.
But I all I could do now.
I can't change the past.
I could just learn yeah, no,for sure now and then same
person does the same shit andexpect different results.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Yeah, and there's definition of insanity.
We kind of said earlier yougotta change doing the same
thing every day and you expectit to be an outcome.
That's like me.
Okay, I want to lose weight,but I keep eating the bullshit
that I'm eating and not workingout Okay.
Good luck.
Yeah, you're not gonna, you'regonna get.
If anything, you're gonna givethe opposite direction right.
You're gonna gain more weight.
You're gonna be look more outof.
You know it's not people, Idon't know, man, what people
think and then and then actuallyI do know they give it a try.

(01:04:33):
They realize how hard it is.
Oh, I can't like fuck that.
I can't fuck that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
All right.
Well then, you're never.
Don't be mad.
A sign of struggle yes, overexactly no, dog Don't it first.
I struggle.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Yeah, then you know no, no, no discipline, no
self-discipline whatsoever.
And they don't understand thatif you just go through the pain,
there is something on the otherside of that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
We'll get it.
Yes, I'm gonna wait.
Yes, you can't force a flowerto grow, you know.
I'm gonna think like kung fupanache Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
That's cool, I'm gonna force the peach to grow.
You know me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
But some people want to do that man.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
No matter what corners it all ties together.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Everything is in all ties back to.
We've been saying this wholetime is which is you cannot?
There's no, I guess there's noshortcuts.
I did it was saying there's noshortcuts to the finish, lander
isn't.
And not just that.
You cannot bullshit the systemand still win.
You can't.
House always wins, exactly,even the people that do
Successfully cheat in life andget money out of it.
No, it'll come below it doesn'tlast exactly, and it will come

(01:05:29):
back to bite them in the ass insome form you can't bill.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
You can't bill how.
Can't build a solid foundationon San?
No, you really can't that's whythat's in the.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Bible to write.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
It didn't Bible talk about where yeah yeah the Bible
got a solid foundation on San.
He's gonna come, can't gotta beon rock.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
He basically paraphrased a Story in the Bible
.
Yeah, we're a full.
There's a book to yeah, we're afoolish man fucking bill.
Yeah, it's in the house fromBible in different ways, in
which there's another, there'sanother book.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
There's another book my bad, I mean.
There's another book that Iread.
Shout out to my boy, cavemanjunior.
He gave it to me a while back.
It's called sandcastle Kings.
Oh, that's so it's an author, Ithink it's a Rich wickerson, I
think, if that's the author.
But that's what the book isbased off of that scripture.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
And so you can't build a solid foundation on
anything in life.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
On Sam.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
That's a good title.
It's like, it's like a doublemeaning, yeah, yeah like you're
king but you're just fucking inthe dumpster.
All yeah, san castle, you don'twant to be winning, but you're
losing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
You don't want to be a sandcastle, but we will do
that shit all the time, man broand they know, yeah, it's facts.
So hey, bro, right, you do seeit every day.
And then they, they flaunttheir shit.
They live like they're living,to pretend live away.
That are not they're reallystrong Pretext they got a, they
got together.
No, you don't, motherfucker.
I'm not saying I like to pointthat shit out, but it's.
It's a reality.
We see all the time, man, andit's sometimes it's not your

(01:06:56):
place to put it out.
Let someone be living their owndelusion.
They got a.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
They got a Bentley, but they live in section 8
housing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Yeah, that happens.
I don't make no sense, bro.
That's for the flex, it is forthe flex, people, people.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
We live in the era of the flex, bro.
This is the flex that we hearpeople could easily day, bro.
I've heard stories of you knowthese IG models.
What these, these chicks willdo, though go to an airport,
rent the plane for an hour, havea photographer take all these
gang of photos like they'retraveling that is, and then they
post it later like they'regoing to different spots.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
But they're not only shit.
That's why you never took offthe ground.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
That motherfucker is on the ground.
I've heard stories of that.
So it's easy to fake shit waswhat I'm saying.
It's easy to fake online.
Oh, just the other day.
Everyone's gonna see theresults if you're fake look, oh
yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
You know, what?

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
maybe I shouldn't bring this up.
I don't want sound like a haterman, but I was literally at the
aquarium the other day with mygirlfriend and my family right
little girls and there was someinfluences there.
I recognize them.
I don't even know what theirnames are.
I don't know who they are, butthey're a mechanism that I
recognize them.
They're a couple from tiktokand they're falling.
Some guy was following themaround with a little little
camera and literally they'rerecording their reactions and

(01:08:04):
shit.
They're pretending to have alittle fight and it was fake.
They just fake the wholeargument and then after that was
good, right, oh, I don't do thesecond take, we're good, he's
eating his talkies.
I'm like this is life for them,bro, and that they make money
off this shit.
I knew who they were.
Even I knew who they were, butI don't know what their names.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
I just know that they pop up my feet a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Yeah, bro, and they're making what he said, and
it's just like in my head.
I'm like that bag feelingeither though you know what I
mean Like I'm bringing this upto say that that can't be
fulfilling either, like a lifelike that.
But I mean, don't get me wrong,you're not doing a nine-to-five
job.
I guess it beats that right.
But at the same time it's likeafter a while, man, it's gonna
it's gonna fizzle out.

Speaker 5 (01:08:39):
Yeah, they're gonna run out of ideas of course
people are gonna bro.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
At the end of the day .

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
I think I'm my head on my people so I don't sound
like a hater.
But people subscribe to that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
No, but it's only short term, though, bro.
People still create qualityalways.
People always crave, cravequality if it's good and it
resonates.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
That's what they like cream of the crop always rise
to the top.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
I hate to say it, but you know, I know those, those,
those, those individual peopledon't even have identities.
You know why I say that again.
Sorry, I'm not trying to burnthem or anything, but I'm gonna
say the ace family people wereon their sack.
Oh, that's the perfect family.
That's, that's what you want.
That's the kind of family youwant in your life.
I found out about them becausemy sister I didn't know what the
fuck these people were beforethat.
But then look now, now they'refacing a divorce, bros on some

(01:09:18):
crack where he's living outsidehis house.
Now, supposedly they're havinga divorce and he's now living in
a trailer outside of his ownhouse.
I'm like, bro, this shit justsounds like you're desperate for
views now, like you're shitstarting to fizzle out now and
you're trying to stay relevantsomehow.
I'm gonna just put it out therelike it is, bro, like that.
To me it's pretty sad, andpeople were reviewing it, not
just me.
Right now I'm saying otherinfluencers are talking about

(01:09:38):
them like they look like clowns.
Enjoy your time for what it was.
You guys made an impact.
No, no shot, no shade to them.
But don't start making shit upin scenarios and do all crime.
There's kinds of crazy shit atyour kids expense to make clouds
stay, you know, relevant inyour, in your spectrum.
Yeah if you evolve, do somethingelse, invest in something.
That's that's wrong, matt, withthat I don't know.

(01:09:58):
I'm not trying to say shade onthem, but I'm just saying, man,
like a couple examples from them, like you know, involving their
kids in it.
Someone broke into our houseand there's a.
They clearly broke the glassand what I mean.
The kids come out crying andit's just extra like was it shit
?
It's real life or is it justall you know?

Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
I think is that I thought, man, is that they got a
taste of how much that they canmake off that shit.
Yeah, and they're just, they'rejust fucking addicted.
So now they're like a likeeveryone's in on this shit.
You're gonna do it, do what yougotta do.
So we, we can, we can get thisbag.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
It's like a drug, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:10:26):
I feel you know that is money.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
So yeah, and that's why I bring them up.
It's fast money, that's notmore necessarily long-term, but
they're good for them.
They found something thatworked.
They found an audience somehowdoing that, you know.
Good for you guys, but can youreally be proud of that?
At the end of the day, you knowme can you an ignorance, yeah,
I guess, so man yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
I guess we're cut from a different clock.
It's like you said not everyonethinks the way we think, not
every, and that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Everyone heck is up is right to their own opinion on
mentality because I guess aredoing wild shit here on this
show Right to get moreviewership.
I could pass out right now.

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
But what kind of mark fall through the table and I'm
not going to leave on your showexactly.
Oh, you guys are clowns.
That's where you have to askyourself bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
You know me like.
When do you?
You know what, do you find ahappy medium.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
That's where you ask yourself what type of legacy are
you trying to leave?
Yeah, like what are you?
Am I doing it for?

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
cloud I'm doing for money.
Like what am I?
Am I gonna stay true to myself?
Exactly?
I grew JJ like you.
I feel like that matters to ourgeneration more.
These new guys I don't fuckingknow I, they're definitely from
another generation.
These tick-tockers that I saw,they're from another generation
Because it's like you don'tvalue the same things that we
value, and I'm gonna sound likean old man, or like an old head,
that's what they call the old.
Well, fuck it.
I feel like for us, we valuethings that are gonna last.

(01:11:30):
Oh yeah, you know, I mean, Ifeel like we value.
I feel like we value things aregonna last yeah you know me,
sorry, I'm gonna mix it withJJ's, funny me kind of harsh but
, um, I Feel like we value, youknow, our generation.
We value things that are gonnalast quality.
Quality, exactly things that aregonna be tangible.
They want the superficial shit.
It's not gonna last at just atleast accommodate them right now
.
They might not even give a fuckretirement.

(01:11:52):
I probably won't have money forthat.
Who cares?
Maybe I'll have enough, maybe Iwill.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
You know, I'm not thinking that far ahead but
because of that, you know,because of the lack of caring
about quality.
This is why you get what youget in society you get bullshit,
music.
You get you get the dumbingdown and and not to go into
conspiracies, but you get thedumbing down of society through.
You know, and people want tosay and they love it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
That's why they press that shit up.
They push it up Like get moredistracted.
Watch this couple.
Yeah, watch this couple Likewatch this good shit.
It's just like this bro.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
Art is supposed to inspire, it's supposed to uplift
the community.
It's supposed to build up theworld, not dumb it down.
So when you have good art,quality art it brings, it has a.
It's not fully, but it has somea big impact on.
It has an impact on culture andsociety.
So when you have a higherelevated art forms and

(01:12:42):
everything's at a higher leveland not just subpar bullshit,
just microwave shit but homecooked meal pun intended when
you have something really ofquality, bro, that's when the
morale of society and everythingelse boost up.
Because, it starts witheverything, bro, like the food,
the culture, the art, the morals, when you start putting

(01:13:05):
bullshit in music and I don'tcare what anybody says, music is
very powerful and spiritual.

Speaker 5 (01:13:10):
Yes, it is so when you put a bunch of.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
It depends on what message you put.
A negative message.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
It affects the algorithm.
It affects the algorithm.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
And it affects the public, it affects society.
That's why you have youngpeople doing wild, crazy, dumb
shit, because the music isinfluencing them to do fucking
dumb, wild shit.

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
The.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
Thing is cool.
The thing is cool because it'sit's packaged in.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Doing wild and shit is what's packaged in.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
And labels and shit.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
They know what the fuck they're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Of course they do.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Because you know, this is what it goes back to
when in the beginning, when wewere talking bro, that's why
they have.
They know who they want topromote.
There's good ass artists outthere, but they choose to shine
the light on some fuckery orwhatever.

Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
Because they want a certain thing, it's money.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Oh, this sells.
It's too easy.
It's my shake your ass.
Talk about this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
Guys talk about money this that bitches.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
And that's it, bro.
But to add to that right, let'ssay let's touch on, like you
know, conspiracies, right.

Speaker 5 (01:14:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
After that.
It's also because, since thatinfluences the public right and
then have more people doingmaking dumb decisions that scar
them for life.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, let's say, you might havepeople joining gangs or you
know, sleeping around like crazy.
Getting caught up or whatever.
That's all going to fuel thesystem.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
It all fuels the system.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
It all comes back.
But I think also that you knowyou need.
There's no dark, there's nolight without dark.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
True.

Speaker 4 (01:14:27):
So it's going to be there and that's where it gives
room for people about quality toreally shine to the ranks, so
it's like you know what I'msaying.
Because, at the end of the day,people are choosing to listen
to the music too.
It's a two-way street, so it's.
So I'm saying the system canpump out whatever it wants, but
if people choose to resonatewith, that's what the system is
going to pump out If you don'tfeed the system.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Then they got to change the system got to change.

Speaker 5 (01:14:49):
if you're right, that is a good, great point.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
That's true, it is.
It's on the consumer's job too.
Yeah, Not just the.
They're not mindless zombies,you know what I mean?
No, I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:14:59):
And that doesn't give them the respect of being you
know what I'm saying Autonomous.
You know what?

Speaker 5 (01:15:03):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
Like.
They make their own choices.
It may not be the best choices,but that's their choice.
So I think you know it's all.
It's a.
It's fair, you know what I'msaying, like you know, like you
know, like we don't have to eatto call it Mickey D's, we don't
have to.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
It's not a grocery store.
That's all choice.
Yeah, it's all choice.
That's a very great point.
No, that's good, that's supergood, that's true.
So, hey, it's up to y'all outthere.
You want shit to change.

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
Yeah, it's up to you guys to not feed into the
bullshit.
Yup, yeah, I know that.
Yeah be the change, exactly ascliche as it sounds.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
It's not a cliche at all.
That's the truth, though.
That's the truth.
Sometimes the cliches are thetruth man.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
A lot of them are sometimes it's been said so many
times that now it's been dubbedin.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
It doesn't mean anything, right, it becomes a
cliche, unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
Well, because people say it because it sounds good,
but they don't want to actuallydo it exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
That sounds great that part.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
The work, the footwork is not there.
Yup.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
They don't want to put in the legwork, they're lazy
.
We live in a society again.
Like I said before, they wantinstant results.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Always Instant gratification.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Everything instant gratification.
That's why Instagram is as bigas it is.
People only post their wins.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Yup.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Maybe if he was even a pollter, a lot post their
losses, bro.
Post your losses Honestly, I'mnot sure, or I noticed it was
the only time they'll post aloss.
Sarg, what did you say?

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
No, I mean.
I mean like post your losses,because that's what, bro people?

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
everyone experiences loss.
It shows growth.
People can relate to it.
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
And you doing that, I feel like you'll gain more of a
following, or whatever you'retrying to, because you're being
real, but I'm not trying to.
I'm not selling you bullshit.

Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
No, I agree, I'm human, like you bro.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Like that connection is unmatched.
No facts, but sometimes I'venoticed those Well.
Sometimes people will posttheir losses, though, because
they want sympathy.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
Yeah, so they try to manipulate the system.

Speaker 5 (01:16:41):
Yes, yes, they try to manipulate the system to get
their oh, but I want this frompeople.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
I'm craving their.
Yeah, bro, who does?

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
it.
But people do that shit Like atfirst.
It's like that.
Aren't people fuckinginteresting bro?

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
They are.
Fuck man no that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
And they'll do it like I saw one recently.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Someone posted their car accident and I'm like, oh my
baby.
I was like well fuck, at leastyou're okay.
The car's replacement, but thecar's replaceable.
But you're like more concerned,but you're looking for the
sympathy.
You want, the oh shit, are youokay?

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
Are you looking for that?
I mean, people might get mad.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
You know, but it's like people are interesting man.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
People might get mad, but like also another one like
that that relates to that.
People might get mad at thisone, but like in the hospital
when they take a picture oftheir hand and they're in the
they have that.
Oh, the IV, fuck dude Like whatis that the default, fucking oh
.

Speaker 5 (01:17:34):
They do that shit, though.
Sorry, man, I'm not sorry.
No, don't be sorry, fuck thatshit.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Yeah, I'm not sorry, you played yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Bro, to me I'm like bro, I guess what it is man.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Yo no, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
Congratulations, you played yourself A lot of them do
that shit, though.
You know what, though?
There's also another way tolook at that coin.
The other side is what if theydon't have anybody?

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
That's true.
That's true.
That's true.
What if that's a cry of friends?
No, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
So yeah, I'm making fun, but at the same time,
there's another way to there'salways another perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
That's true, there's always perspective too.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
There is, but people are interestingly said but when
it is the case when it is thecase that we're saying though
that's just hilarious, it'sbullshit.

Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
It is bullshit, it's fuck shit and we know it's
bullshit.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
You know what's fuck shit he sends me on the daily
that he finds on Instagram.
Oh yeah, man, I'm the king ofsending bullshit.

Speaker 5 (01:18:20):
He sends the weirdest shit.
My homies know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
I send them fuckery all day.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
Oh fuck, it's time bro.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
I'm just bored, I'm like, oh, this is funny boom.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
I know it's bullshit.
Where do you find this shit?
It's all over the internet, bro.
It's not hard to write.
It's mindless entertainment,but it's funny Slice show too
man Slice show knows, if he washere what he's talking about.
He stays sending me stupid,random shit all the time, bro,
every day.
I'm the only person and I'llgive you this, bro, because it's
props to you.
Man, I don't think, because Iknow you probably scroll on the
Grammy, probably laugh at it.
You're in there, but you don'tsend shit to nobody bro, I know

(01:18:47):
man bro, I'm not, I'm just tohimself.
Like he's on the grind, I'm notdoing anything else.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
Bro, social media man , like that's one thing I used
to always be on it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
Yeah.
You know, exactly, man I don'tlike, and he only made one, just
so you guys know, for the show,because I asked him to.
So I never say no, go ahead, goahead, I cut you off.
I forgot, bro.
Fuck, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
That's all good.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
No, if you just say social media.
You're talking about socialmedia.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Yeah, I mean, I just had too much time on that shit.
I wasn't doing anything.
I'm like why am I so absorbedin this thing?
I'm just scrolling down.
I'm like, bro, like.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
I'm not doing shit Like bro, like get to working
shit.
Yeah, it's hard to pull it awayfrom me too.
I'm victim of that.
That's why you do it.
Man, I feel bad for that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
I was just wasting time looking at this shit.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
You know I don't have any money doing that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
I'm just looking at it scrolling, I'm like huh, you
know, it's true.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
You aren't getting money, you just said it, you're
missing, the way we said earlier, the moment being in the moment
.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
I think we talked off camera.
We did talk off the record forsure, like being present and
being fully aware of the currentmoment and not being consumed
in your phone.
I know I've done it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
It's all self-improvement, yeah it's all
self-improvement, like you'resaying like you don't want to be
, and we all tend to do it.
Sometimes You're at a show,somewhere where you're in an
experience.
You want to take a picture andpost the videos or record it.
Why Right, oh, you can watch itlater.
You're not going to watch thatshit later.
You might Maybe glance at itlater, but you're not going to
watch that shit later.
You're really not.
Let's be honest, no one's goingto watch that shit later.
You're going to want otherpeople that are not there with

(01:20:11):
you to see that experience thatyou're having without them there
.
Ah, this is weird, man.
If you think about it, itreally is weird.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
But you know, it is kind of cringy, you put it that
way.
It's cringy.
It's like as an artist, likeyou kind of have to play that
game.
But there's like a fine line ofplaying that game of letting
people know what you're doingand being overly consumed where
I don't need to know when you'retaking the shit, I don't need
to know when you're fucking, Idon't know, bro, like you're
literally not posting it rightnow.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Yeah, or like I saw one that you know do that shit
Like ah.
I said no more milk.
I'm 1% only.

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
No, I see what we're what the fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Who gives a shit bro?

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
I see where there's a guy he does like, I guess,
lifestyle videos and this otherguy's critiquing it.
It's fucking hilarious, like areaction video.
He's like bro, he's like whatthe fuck is this?
And he's like, getting up inthe morning, he said he said he
set up his tripod, he's puttingit, he's showing his routine.
Yeah, it cuts to another scene.
He's taking a shower.
He's like, bro, you set up yourfucking camera to record you

(01:21:12):
showering, to do this.
And he's just, he's likecommentating, play by play.
And I'm fucking dying becauseit's funny.
Oh, this is his goof and he'slike he gets dressed and he's
like he pulls up to target.
He's like target run I guessit's part of the fucking content
and the camera is showing himparking into the parking street.
He's like, bro, you pulled up,set up your camera, got back in
your car fucking back to work?

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Yeah, he did.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
All this bullshit just to like hey Maloki.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
I guess I was laughing bro, but it's so funny
bro.

Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
And that's also, though that is also.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
He wants to hey.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Shout out to that guy .

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
He really does you know?
You know, maybe we got a camerawaiting for you.
Hey bro, I'm pulling up now, beready.
He's not going to do that shit.
You know he's not going to dothat.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
Shout out to that guy that's doing that, because he'd
probably get paid for it, butit is Courtney.
When you break it down likethat, it is funny as fuck.
We live in a content era, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
We do live in a content area, though.
There's people out thereBecause they can ask you why I
do this.
It's the same shit.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
There's people out there that just sit around and
that's all they do all day iswatch other shit, other people's
lives and you can get suckedinto that and lost and just be
glued to that shit now.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
No, seriously, you haven't done shit and that's why
we're actually going to do itTime goes by.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
Time always goes by.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
And we don't have this working title.
Ok, but that's why we're goingto do the whole street hustle
with Slideshow and Furious outin LA in the streets of LA,
Hollywood and the Boulevard,Because we're going to do a
little personal blog slashinterviews with people, because
it's entertaining.
People like to watch that,People like fuck shit, I like
shit.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
like that.
We're going to go to the clubs.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
You guys are going to go get some panties bro, you
will love that shit.
They watch it, ask outlandishquestions that they would never
ask, like it decides matter.
Did you get your back blown outlast night?
How did it feel?
You know what I mean?
Just shit like that.
That's just entertaining.
People want to watch that andthat's why we're going to do
that show.
But we're not just going to doit for interviews, season's.
We're also going to review foodtrucks, where we talked about

(01:22:58):
it.
We're going to make it like alittle blog, but on the street,
so it's a working title.
Now we don't, bro.
We think it's going to be astreet hustle.
I came with that randomly onthe spot.
Street hustle with Slideshowand Furious, or Furious and
Slideshow.
I might just call Street hustlethe name of the show.
Why do you call it Streethustle, which is dope Like?
I think it's a cool name.
It'll be everything.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
It's going to be interviews, and it's going to be
it's coming soon, guys, sothat'll be fun for you guys to
do too.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
That sounds like fun On the street.
Yeah, on Friday nights, yeah,that's the plan, me and
different personalities.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
That seems a lot.
That'll be cool.
If you guys do that, when youguys do that.
I'm looking forward to that.
That's dope.
I like that.
I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
Because I feel like that would help this grow.
I've been told, I've alreadytold you guys.
I told him in Slideshow that Ifeel like that show would help
this one get more popular too.
We're going to want to knowwhat.
Oh, they have a podcast.
We see them doing this Becausethey're going to be a shout out
to Israel.
Padilla man.
Shout out to that guy overthere at 6th Street in Texas.
He's doing his thing out there,bro.
So he kind of inspired me to doit in LA.
I don't think anybody's doingit in LA.

Speaker 5 (01:23:47):
Maybe there is some people doing it in LA.

Speaker 4 (01:23:48):
For sure there are right.
Yeah, there has to be.
You think so?

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Yeah, well, all right For the ones that are doing in
LA.
No shade on you, guys, butwe're going to do our own little
version of that you know thatjob.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
They're going to be bigger than you Watch out.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
He just saw JJ wants to smoke.
Big time no.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
I'll love man.
There's enough room foreverybody.
Friendly competition?
No for sure, that's all it is.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
It's just friendly competition, for sure, no doubt,
no doubt.
But um, yeah, man, you knowthis has been a very good
episode.
I like it so far.
We've been talking aboutself-improvement.
Your beats, your music, realquick.
Transitioning back to yourmusic, though, before we, before
you, you know we wrap thingshere in a little bit I wanted to
ask you, before we do that,what do we have to expect next?
Obviously, Home Cook Meals Vol2.

(01:24:32):
Is that what you're working onnext, or do you have a project?

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
Yeah, I got Home Cook Meals Vol 2.
Home Cook Meals Vol 2, that'scoming up in the series.
And then I got I'm going tostart working on an album where,
yeah, you're working onsomething currently right now
with somebody else, or just youagain, but just this one.
Just me and no, I got, I got, Igot in the works.
I'm not going to say who butI'm fine.
You know, I got some things inthe works too with other artists
, other producers Cool.

(01:24:55):
Uh yeah, man.
So just stay on the lookout.
I also paint, if y'all likepainting.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Oh yeah, just I don't know.
Shout them out, let them reallyfind it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
I'm not right here.
I messed up, I didn't come Ishould have.

Speaker 5 (01:25:08):
I should have came and brought some pieces to show
you guys but I didn't bring anypieces.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
But yeah, for a set man.
He owes me one.
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 3 (01:25:16):
But if you want to check out my art, you know I got
.
I'm in the works of making apage for that too.
But if you want to buy somepieces, it's actually for sale
right now, if you're local.
Over here in Lancaster,california, at Voodoo Vinyl.
It's on the Boulevard.
Yes, sir, they're selling myart pieces.
They're going to be selling mymerch there too.
So those are a partner I gotwith.

(01:25:37):
Also, shout out to Milk Room inWoodland Hills, oh yeah.
They're the first guys Shout outto Greg.
They gave me my opportunity.
I did my first art pop up.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Was it like a Shout out to their podcast too, two
years ago.
Yeah, they have a podcast,shout out to them, they have a
podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
Shout out to Milk Room Podcast too.
Shout out to Milk Room.
They're dope.
They always showcaseup-and-coming artists.
They're good people, man.
They always they got mad love.
My pieces are in there for sale.
You can buy vintage clothes.
It's a streetwear shop.
Sneakers Dope.
They're building their owncommunity.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
They're really, really dope.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
I like that they have a they're a shout out to them,
man, so check them out.
You know Milk Room and VoodooVinyl.
Those are the two partners Ihave right now and just continue
to follow me, if you guys want,with my journey.
I'm a, I'm a post and I'm goingto keep creating, and I always.
My slogan is always create.
That's what I live by, alwayscreate.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
Yeah, the first episode you were in.
We named it that.
Yeah, we called it AlwaysCreate that's my slogan that I
live by.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
Yeah, you can check my paint, you know, be on the
lookout for my music and youknow if you're a creative.
What I could say is don't boxyourself in if, oh, you're just
a producer or you're just a.
No, bro, I'm an artist.
That's why I tell people likedon't box me in.
And if I want to rap, bro, younever know you might catch a
single this year.
I'm you never know I might comeout of nowhere, Me rapping on

(01:26:48):
my own beat.
You can't put me in a box.
I believe I could do it, bro.
I really believe I can do it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
No one could tell me otherwise Big facts I can't say
to anybody that's a creative.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
Be fearless.
Your art is your art and it'ssubjective.
So just put it out.
If you feel, I feel like youget to a point where you develop
a confidence, yeah, where youfinally release it to the world.
Once you release it to theworld, you've given it to the
world to critique whatever.
It's no longer yours.
You've given it to everyone.
It went from you, but don'tapologize for your work.

(01:27:18):
Your vision is your vision andbe confident that it's only you,
bro.
Like, make what you feel isdope.
And I feel like nine out of 10times when you trust your gut
and you're not worried about ohshit, I'm making something I was
about to say that I got toappeal to this audience.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
You don't let that be part of your process.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
When you do that, I think you fuck up your art.
It is not going to come outgood.
It's no longer yours, but whenyou true to you and you're like
I, like this shit.
Whether it gets a million plays, whether a lot of people buy
this painting, whatever it is, Ienjoy thoroughly making this
and it came from my passion, myheart.
I feel like nine out of 10times it connects, it does, and
that's why I wanted to ask youthat too.

Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
You just got to be bold enough to like you know I'm
going to do it, even if you'reblazing a new trail you got to
face the, you got to face theroom, basically.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
Yeah.
You know, let them taste makers, bro.
That's what taste makers arethe people that food critics.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
Oh, it's too salty.
Oh, it's wrong.
Yeah, it's wrong, I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
He acts it though.

Speaker 5 (01:28:12):
Shit bro.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
He acts.
It was on point, but shit, yeah, bro, it was too salty.

Speaker 5 (01:28:20):
That's why I feel like taste makers.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
Bro, you got to be the trends.
You're the taste maker.
You tell people was dope, theydon't know what's dope.
You got to be that one, to belike this was dope.
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
Because exactly you show them what's dope, what he
just said.
It goes hand in hand with ifyou don't believe in yourself,
how do you expect someone elseto?

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
Yep, you got to sell them.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
You got to sell them, you, in a sense.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
You got to make them believe.
You don't you got to make thembelieve in you the way you
believe in you.
You don't got to sell them.

Speaker 5 (01:28:43):
This is what I feel like you don't want to sell.
It it's dope, it's dope.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
It's going to speak for itself.
That's true.

Speaker 5 (01:28:48):
Real recognized.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Real recognized, real , recognized, real.
Yeah, big facts, bro, andthat's the.
You know, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Just stay true to who you are, Be positive that's
true and grind bro.
That's it.
Keep your head down and go andbe timeless Be timeless.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
I like how you did that Be timeless.

Speaker 4 (01:29:05):
Because timeless never fades.

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
Classics never fade, this podcast never fade.
Yeah, the art we make neverfade because it's classic, it's
quality, it's timeless, like myboy.

Speaker 5 (01:29:16):
Fierce yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Salute to him.
Man, he's a great guy.
Positive.
Hey bro, we got to cook up.
You said you make beats.
Yeah, we got to do this man.

Speaker 4 (01:29:25):
thank you for letting this man experience that great
body of work man.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
Yeah, I appreciate you for listening to the time.
No, seriously.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
We appreciate you actually sharing it with us.
Hey, hey, hey.
And everybody, I'm looking atthe camera, everybody out there.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
I appreciate you guys taking the time out Listen to
my project and feel free toreach out.
Man, let me know how it madeyou feel.
I love hearing people'sresponse.
I love people's reactions tothe art.
So, man, Thank you everybodyman.

Speaker 5 (01:29:49):
Thank you guys for the platform.
No, of course I mean I alwayscome on here.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
I love it.
I support it.
You know what I mean the bestthat I can.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Just keep going, man.
You guys are doing your thing.
No for sure, bro.
We appreciate you taking thetime to come out here again.
It's all worth it.
We're all having a good time,we're all out of blasts, and
this was Thank you for beinghere.
It was a pleasure to have you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, youknow.

Speaker 4 (01:30:11):
It's okay.
Thanks for coming out, man.
No, yeah, for sure.
No, for sure, all right, butfor sure.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
I hope it's not a perfect though for us.
Anything we wanted to leavethem with any last you know.

Speaker 4 (01:30:20):
You know, like we always do every episode, like I
always say, man, stay true toyourself and don't let anyone
stand in the way of your goals.

Speaker 5 (01:30:28):
Yeah, go after that shit Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
You only got one life .
Go for what you want and makeit happen.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
Big time, big time.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
All like that All glory to God, all glory to God.
Yes, sir, always.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
Yeah, we put God first in this podcast.
We're not ashamed of it.
Nope, we're not ashamed of it,we're not ashamed of it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
We're not ashamed of it, but we're not ashamed of it.
We're not ashamed of it.
And we're not ashamed of it,we're not ashamed of it and
we're not ashamed of it.
I'm going to deny you beforethe father bro.
So I firmly believe in that.
I know everybody at the tabledoes too.
So we take that very seriouslyhere.
On TimeList Talk man All rightguys, so we'll catch up with you
right.
Stay timeless, y'all All rightyeah, guys so with that being
said, guys, you know where tofind us.
It's been Timeless.

(01:31:01):
Talk.
Stay true to yourself.
You don't know your worth.
Do what you're doing in life.
Take the self-improvement.
Try to apply it to your life.
Keep it timeless.
We'll see you, guys, next week.

Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
God bless you Keep it timeless.
Yo Follow me.
Jj got beats yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
Scotsman.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
Got your man.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
Furious one, furious one and the Armored Cubans.
You guys want to find us.
We'll see you guys next week.
Thanks again, guys.
It's been Timeless Talk, salute.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
Salute Big time Timeless.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:31:36):
Hey guys man.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
Oh shit in my head bro.

Speaker 5 (01:31:40):
I'm just fucking with Addy Hell yeah, man.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
Play for a little bit , just make sure you rise above
all this madness out here.

Speaker 5 (01:31:52):
Mind elevation man.
Fuck that petty shit.
Yo needy when I All right guys.

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