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June 4, 2025 46 mins

In this illuminating episode, Beck and Rachel sit down with healer Xavier R Roman to explore his extraordinary journey, from childhood sensitivity to a life-changing near-death experience that unlocked powerful healing abilities.

Xavier shares what he saw on the other side, how he channelsenergy to support physical and emotional recovery, and why he’s finally stepping forward to share his gift with the world.

If you’ve ever wondered about the real power of healing, theunseen support around us, or the light that lives within, this one’s for you.

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(00:07):
You're listening to to the Spirit podcast.
Welcome back radiant souls, curious seekers and travellers
beyond the veils. I'm your host Beck and with me
is my Co host, energy empath andintuitive compass Rachel.

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Hello. Today's guest is someone whose
very presence seems to hum with resonance.
His story begins in childhood, deepens through a mother's brush
with death, and is forever transformed by his own near
death experience. Since that moment, he has
devoted his life to supporting others on their healing journey,
body, mind, and soul. Our guest is Xavier R Roman, A

(00:51):
gifted healer whose work spans from hands on restoration to
remote energy channeling, often helping those who've been told
there's no hope left. He's been on quite a journey,
and today he's generously opening up more of that story
with us. We're honored to have the space
with him and to share it with all of you.

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Xavier, welcome to the spirit. We're so glad you're here.
Thank you. Thank you for having me.
Let's begin at the core. Who is Xavier Roman?
Beyond the Healer? Beyond the practitioner?
When did this extraordinary pathbegin for you?
Well, I am a dad, I have one child and this whole thing began

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for me at age 5. Now I know your mother's near
fatal car accident in 2005 was apivotal moment.
Can you walk us through that time and how it began to awaken
something in you? Yeah, yeah.
No, definitely. I would say when that happened,
it awakened more of me to go ahead and really focus and
really do what I'm put here to do.

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She got into that accident, and of course, I've been knowing
that I could do this since 5:00 because that's when I did it the
first time. But then once that accident
happened and standing in that waiting room at the ER, and once
the doctor comes in and tells you what does he think, what
does he feel and so forth. And once someone tells you that,

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hey, it's hour to hour, she might not make it so forth.
When you hear those kinds of words, you really get focused.
And I really got focused. And that was something that I
wanted to really do. Not that I don't want to do it
for everybody because I really do, but at that time, but really
put everything back in focus that, hey, listen, you need to

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continue to do this, that you need to try to help as many
people as you can and not take your foot off the gas pedal, so
to speak. So that's what I focused on
while she was in the hospital and the ICU.
But your full activation didn't happen right away.
What held you back? Were you afraid of the gift?
Everything became active when I was 5, when I first done that,

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when I first had to help somebody as a child.
And I continued on to do that, especially in medical centers
and doctor's offices and so forth.
But once that happened, it just made me focus, sit still and
really think about and intend onmaking sure that would happen,

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that she wouldn't leave. And I know I get the backlash or
the comments of hey, God decidesthis met so forth.
Sometimes I'll tell person, well, who do you think sent me
here? I don't think I'm going to think
I'm special or anything like that.
But that is how I feel like, whodo you think sent me here?
We're all giving things to go ahead and do.
And mine just becomes a little bit an ordinary.

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And so at that time I was like, no, I'm going to make this
happen. I'm going to go ahead and aid in
making this happen, even though it's not me doing the work, but
it's what comes through me. I'm going to go ahead and make
sure that she comes back and that she's here.
Do you believe that we all have something special within us?
And if you do think that, do youtry to help other people open

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that part of them up? I do believe that we all have
something in US, but I don't tryto help people open that up
because everybody's different. Everybody has different things
and so forth. Now, if they wanted to learn
about how I do things or what I see when I'm doing it, that's
different. I could go ahead and try to show
a person, tell a person what I do and how I get there and how

(04:34):
quick it happens. But that would be up to the
individual to say, hey, can you show me how this, how you doing
this, how you do that? I have to.
Agree with you on everybody having different abilities.
It's not one-size-fits-all. There was a point in 2010 where
you had a near death experience and I'm wondering what happened
during that emergency surgery and what did you witness, hear

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or feel on the other side? OK, well, I can remember that
day. Every time I tell the story, I'm
right back there. I'm like there if it happened
just yesterday, I remember I hadbad stomach pains and they were
just so bad. It was just like I thought, hey,
maybe I got to wash them. Hey, maybe I ate something bad
and this and that and so forth. And I remember telling somebody,

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because somebody had asked me, hey, if you had to die, what
would be your last meal? And then at that time, I was
like, oh, man, that's easy. Wings and pizza.
I said, man, I I said I could die on that last meal right
there. I said, wings and pizza.
Yes. I no longer eat wings.
Of course, that was 25. Yeah, that's 25 years ago.

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I could definitely eat that manywings and pizza and so forth.
Oh, my God, I can't believe I said something that stupid and
this and that. And I just ate pizza and wings
two days in a row before that happened.
And I was like, no, I'm like, this can't be true.
This can't be true. So I continued on to feel bad.

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And my wife, at that time, she had said, hey, let's go to the
doctor. I said, no, we have to go to the
hospital. This is something bad.
I know this for sure. This is not a doctor thing.
And she's like, Are you sure? I was like, yeah, we're going to
the hospital. Look, I know what's going to
happen. I'm telling you, telling you
what the Lord knows and says, I'm saying I don't think I'm
coming back right away. I'll say that that doesn't mean

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I'm staying at the hospital, butI'm staying overnight.
I'm not coming back home for theshow.
Oh my God, what are you talking about?
Well, so we went and so then I had a appendix thing.
And so they said, hey, your appendix has got to come out.
And you had a slight, I think itwas a burst or something like
that. But they were like, you got to
start drinking this and some flavored stuff.

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You got to drink two of these, and then we'll get you in and
then we're done. Perform the surgery procedure.
I was like, all right, cool. I said yes, I'm not dealing with
this. Like, this stuff hurts way too
bad, and it's not stopping. Yeah, go ahead.
Let's do it. So then I go ahead and have the
surgery come out and I recover, and then I go home.

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Five days later, I start gettingcold and then hot and then cold,
then hot and cold. That was weird because I
remember it was like 100 and 102° outside and the air
conditioner was on, but it was still, it was very hot outside
when you open the door. And I was like, Oh my God, I'm
getting cold, I'm getting cold. And then we called the surgeon

(07:25):
who did surgery and so forth. They called the hospital and
they says, oh, he's having an infection.
Did he finish the meds? Yeah.
Oh, OK. Yeah, he's got to come back in.
He's having some kind of infection.
And then I was like, yeah, I figured that because your body
starts getting real hot, starts getting real cold, and you have
some kind of infection in your body, like, OK, we're coming
back. And so we go back and they're

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like, hey, we ran these tests. We did the scans, and you have
an infection from surgery and now it's going up to your organs
above. Now we have to do this thing
right away. Tomorrow morning.
We could go ahead and schedule for this.
The infection is going to go right to your heart.
And once it gets there, but there's no turning back.

(08:09):
We won't be able to bring you. You'll die.
I'm like, oh, man, come on. Oh, I got so much stuff to do
tomorrow. But like, hey, we'll let these
antibiotics run. But it doesn't seem to be
helping and it's not going to help this what you have.
So that's just where it's at. I was like, yeah, I don't have
no choice. And my wife at the time was

(08:30):
like, oh, my God, what? She was like, I wasn't ready to
hear this. And I was like, you too.
You weren't the only one. So I went ahead and did the
surgery. And if you ever had a surgery,
they usually tell you to count to this many seconds before the
anesthesia kicks in. And I remember he said, OK,
count to 3 and before 3 you'll be out.

(08:51):
I just remembered 1-2 and I was gone.
And so as they're performing thesurgery and I'm out, I come out
of my body and I'm standing there now and I'm witnessing the
watching them perform the procedure and my arms are
crossed and I'm just standing there.

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I didn't have no judgement, no input about what they're doing.
I was just observing. That's how I was just observing,
no feeling at all. And so they're doing it.
And I can remember the surgeon, he had cut me right down the
middle of my belly button to my navel to open it up.
And boom, I remember seeing all this pus and blood go on his

(09:33):
apron. Luckily he had one of those
masks that you wear from your forehead all the way down to
your neck so nothing would hit them in the face.
And luckily he wore that becausethey saw all the blood and pus
go on there. And then I heard him swear
because God on him. And as they were going on, then
boom, the the heart monitor thing went on.

(10:03):
They didn't go in a panic, but then they started moving real
fast. As soon as it went on, they're
like, oh SHIT. And then they started moving
real fast. You could say it.
It's yeah, can. I didn't know if I could do
that. Oh, you're fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were like, oh, shit.
And then they just started moving real fast.
And I remember after a little bit of time, I remember them

(10:26):
pulling those pads out the defibrillator and so forth, and
boom, I left. Then I was gone.
And then as I was gone, if you ever seen what's that will be
called the Wizard of Oz, and just almost like that because I
know people will picture a different almost like that.
Everything was golden bricks andthen you had trees on both sides

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of the road. They're going up.
And then they met each other. So it formed like a tunnel
formed like a tunnel, real beautiful and everything.
And so I'm running through it and then I'm doing flips and I'm
running and I'm jumping and I felt so good.
And then boom. And there was a, there was a
white tunnel, white light right at the end.
And then I slowed down. Whoa, what is this?

(11:12):
And then I went right through it.
And then I've seen some people that had passed that I knew of,
and then, boom, I was there. Wow.
Yeah. When you saw these people, yeah.
What happened from there? Where they like turn around, You
got to go back, you're not done.Or was there a little?
Bit of time there, no. So I went in and then as I went

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in everything was like perfect, the grass perfect, everything
was beautiful, everything was just perfect.
That's how I could say it. Every piece of grass looked like
that. He ever gone golfing?
The little putter's grass and stuff like that where you put
the ball in, everything was perfect just like that out of
the grass. SO1 front in particular did pass
passed away when I was younger. Hey, how's it going, man?

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How is it over here and so forth.
And he's laughing at me in some words and saying, oh, it's
great, it's great. How have you been?
And I was like, what do you mean?
How have I been? Like, how have you been going
back and forth doing that type of change?
And I'm talking to him like, it's like, what do you mean?
How have I been like, you're theone who died, You're the one who
passed away. And he's looking at me like,
well, you are too because you'reover here.

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And I'm like, Oh my God, I forgot.
I think I forgot. Yeah, that's right.
Oh, man. He said, don't worry, you get
used to it, man. So you get used to.
It's just, it's because it's allnew to you.
And I'm laughing, he's laughing and so forth.
And then I seen some other people and I just waved high to
them that I had seen from the neighborhood that passed away

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and so forth. I didn't know them, but I
remember walking past them and seeing them as I was younger and
seeing them in the neighborhood.And then I came up to my
grandmother. And so I gave her a hug, sat
down, We talked for a while on abench, and we talked and talked.
At the end of our conversation, she says, hey, do you want to

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stay? And I looked at her like, wow, I
have to make a decision, huh? What do you think?
Oh, it took me a while to answerthat question because there's a
part of me that felt like I was at home.
Understandable. I like it here real quick.
And yeah, you'd like it because this is, this is, yeah, your

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home. And then I said, you know what?
I'm going to go. I'm going to go back.
I have some real big things for me that I want to do.
And she's like, OK, OK, Mio in Spanish, that means son even.
That's just how we say it in Spanish.
And I was like, all right, yeah,I'm going to go, but I'll be

(13:44):
back. I said I'll be back.
She said, oh, I know you will. Well, I'll be back.
And then I just laughed. And I was like, yeah, no, I'll
be back. She's OK.
She said now that you know what it's like, I'll be around there.
And I said, yeah, I always knew you're around there.
I said I always knew. And she's well, now you know you
don't. I said, yeah, yeah.

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Wow, this is something. So then I left.
There's things that happened in the middle of all that, but
that's just the short version. So that I left and then when I
came back, I was in the post operating room.
So I'm in the post operating room and I'm just barely opening
my eyes and there's a part of melike, Oh my God, what a dream.

(14:27):
And Oh my God, man, I'm in the hospital.
Wow, I'm out of it. But I'm waking up and they move
my arms a little bit. I'm like, Oh my God, they really
did this, the surgery and so forth.
And then the post operating nurse comes up to me.
Hey, Miss Roman. Oh, hey.

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She's like, oh, OK, how are you?OK, You OK?
I'm like, yeah, I'm wow, druggedup.
I'm getting up and she's cool, man.
She's touching me on my shoulderand she's, oh man, we almost
lost you docking them. They brought you back and they,
they got you back and running. I'm touching my chest because it
felt like hot or something like burning or something like that.

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So I'm just taking it. That's from the, the
defibrillator. And she's.
Yeah, yeah, don't touch that area too much.
It might be a little hot or something like that.
And she says, yeah, but they brought you back and, and then
boom, my eyes popped open over the medication.
The adrenaline came. I woke up so fast, really got

(15:29):
up. And I was like, Oh my God, the
heartbeat monitors and starts going faster.
So what's wrong? It was real.
She's what was real. And I was like, I went over on
that other side and I seen it all.
She's. What do you mean?
I think, yeah. I thought it was just the dream
when I woke up before you came to me and wow, that was real.

(15:52):
I said I seen them do this. I seen them do that.
He swore he said that he swore he said that after the IT went
flat and so forth and this went on him and she went to go get
this and I was like I said, I watched it.
She's Oh my God, just relax. This is the morphine.

(16:13):
It's going to pump every I don'tknow it's 15 or 20 minutes, but
if you need it sooner, but you can't have it any sooner than
this. They just hit the pump right
here and you might need to hit it sooner than later because you
look like too awake and you're not supposed to be this awake.
It usually takes a while becauseyou're still under the meds and
so forth. And so she's, Oh my God, what

(16:35):
happened? What did you see?
She gave me some time that she, of course, she asked me those
questions and then I told her it's stuff that I seen.
I was like, Oh my God, I cannot believe that was real.
I said I cannot believe you knowwhat, I've been here for 27
years or something like that or somewhere around there.
She says I've been here for thatlong and you hear about this

(16:58):
every once in a while because I've never come across nobody.
But I have other Co workers thathave come across this but not
many. And I'm getting ready to retire
and I get to hear this and somewhere I'm fighting drugs and
I'm in amazement and back and forth.
And she's, hey, can I come up toyour room and talk to you?
I was like, yeah, sure. She's.

(17:20):
Yeah. I just.
I just want to know more. I just want to know more what
you're seeing, what do you thinkand so forth.
And so I said, OK, yeah. She said I'm not going to be a
nurse. She said I'm just going to come
as a visitor when I get some time and so forth.
I said, yeah, sure, no problem, no big deal.
And she ended up coming up thereand I just told her more of the
details of what I've seen and yeah, everything.

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You were given the remembrance and not everybody gets to have
that. Do you feel as if you were
chosen to have that remembrance,to tell people to help guide
them and give them that reassurance of the other side?

(18:05):
Yeah, Yeah, I think so, because anybody who's witnessed that
much detail, I'm sure like a psychologist or psychiatrist or
somebody did probably try to diminish that and say Oh well,
just your imagination, it all matched.
I thought it was imagination until she verified it.
Once I started getting up in thepost op, I had that much detail

(18:28):
to go ahead and say and tell andtell people what I think they
should look for or shouldn't or things of that nature.
I think so. But if someone asked me, I tell
them I also to see things beforethey happen.
So if you came to a movie with me, like I went to the movies
last night, if you came to a movie with me, I'm the one

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that's this is going to happen before the Oh, and what's going
to happen next is going to happen next.
And boom, I haven't went to go see the movie.
It's brand new. But so I'm telling, Oh yeah, I
know what's going to happen. Just going to just come on both
in. OK, Hey, you asked.
So there's a lot of things that I'm able to see that are going
to happen before they happen. Obviously you just stated you
had a psychic gift. What else changed?

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Well, what changed for me is a slightly different way to live.
For example, what I learned thatyou're not supposed to be
around, like I think everybody knows you're not supposed to be
around negativity and so forth. You're not supposed to be around
anything that takes away your peace.
You feel that taking away your peace, then you got to go

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because the UN peaceful thing isnot going to remove itself.
So you have to remove yourself or you have to change your mind.
But there's only so many times you could change your mind to
see things, perceive things how you want to perceive it in a
good manner, in a good light. So I would have to remove myself
for anything, anyone, any person, once I recovered from my

(19:58):
surgery. I remember telling my my stomach
a little bit bad, but it's not bad.
It's part of life. Now that I know what I know, I
remember telling my wife I had been home for maybe a couple
weeks and I remember she had complained about something.
And I'm like, hey, OK, I'll get that, don't worry about that.

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And then there's a complaint on top of that complaint.
I want to say, hey, listen, justsay it.
Don't complain it. Just say it.
Don't complain it and then it will get handled and then
that'll be bad. There's no reason to stick in
madness and stick in anger over something that we have control
over, especially me that I couldfix, adjust.

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And so I was like, man, I don't like that no more.
I can't deal with that. Complaints and the anger and
anything that's associated with that.
So then the next month went on and I remember we were in might
have been in July by that time there was another beginning of

(21:03):
an argument. And I'm like, hey, look, it I
told you we're not going to do this arguing thing.
We're not going to do this fighting thing.
And I said, hey, do you ever noticed that I don't start
arguing how to start a fight? And he says, I know what you're
going to say. It could be because you're the
one starting to stop. You're the one doing the stuff
that we don't like or blah, blah, blah.
OK, Yeah. But still, there's plenty of

(21:24):
opportunities when I could do that, but I choose not to.
Like, I'd rather choose peace than choose the opposite.
I can't live like that. I can't.
That's just that's my constitution and so forth going
forward. So we can't fight plus argue.
But you could tell me things that need to be fixed, adjusted,

(21:46):
whatever. But there's not going to be no
more arguing, OK? There's not.
And I promise I'm not going to argue with you like, you know,
So if we do that one more time, I don't want to be in this.
What do you mean? I says, hey, listen, I'm saying
this in a nice way. And that's the only way I know

(22:06):
how to say it. And that's just that.
So everything calmed down for about a month and 1/2 and then I
got another start of an argumentand I was like, I just started
to feel better finally. It's, I don't know, I think it's
be like a couple months start feeling good.

(22:26):
And then I finally went outside and I finally went to the store
and so forth. Oh, you're better now.
I said, yeah, I do feel better now.
I think I could start to walk far distance now.
And then as soon as I gave her the yes, yeah, I do feel better
now. Then it was like an argument.
I said, wait, hold on. Remember I said when I could do

(22:47):
that, I don't care. I said, OK, we're done.
I said what? I said we're done.
That's it. I don't want to be in this no
more. You're not supposed to live like
this. Don't you think this is a little
bit too extreme? I said, yeah, it's extreme that
you're doing it. I don't want to live like that,
and hey, you're doing it. And then wait a minute.

(23:08):
You can't. Papa.
Look, I'm done. I'm done.
That was the divorce right there.
So you set your boundaries and obviously that wasn't meant to
go further because you are more spiritually aligned and she
wanted the drama. Yeah, but I would have never
have done that before in the past.
Especially some of that extremes.
OK, I'm done. Let's just get divorced.
What? Huh.

(23:28):
Yeah, I'm done. Yeah, we're going to get a
divorce. What?
You're crazy. But OK, if I'm crazy, then
that's what it is. But I told you, we're not
supposed to look like that, and you're not supposed to be like
that. Oh, people do this every day.
I said, look it. You're talking about the people
that do it every day. How about the people and the
couples that don't do it? I know we could say there's far

(23:50):
few that don't do it, but how about those far few right there?
You don't want to go there, I'm there.
You don't want to go there. And I know it's hard for you to
go ahead, just shift your mind and change things.
And this thing happened to you, but it happened to me and so
forth. I says, hey, I requested it.
This is like the third time and I'm not going to argue.

(24:11):
I'm happy to be here. I'm just happy to be here.
And I was like that. That's it.
No, you can't. That's it.
Hey, take what you need. You're welcome to have whatever
you you need. And that's cool, man.
Hey, as long as we got a bed, I'm good.
And that was. Powerful.
Yeah. And here's the kicker.
We had been together for eight years.

(24:32):
We got married and September 12th would have been our
anniversary. And when I told her that it was
one week before our one year anniversary, so we didn't make
the one year. Yeah, I knew that in in my mind
that hey, the anniversary does it.
It's not going to make it betterjust because you hit the one

(24:54):
year mark or this. That's just time or it's just
time. That's all it is.
And the time with this person doing this is just going to take
away my piece and I'm going to let that go.
That's just number one, period. That's an important lesson for
many because a lot of us stay inrelationships that cause

(25:15):
disharmony with inside ourselves.
There's a lot of static and noise and there's energy
funneling that they're taking this energy from you and it's a
constant depletion. It's a constant war without
resolve. And I completely understand
wanting to talk about things. We're human, right?
We're going to have arguments, we're going to have bad days.
But when it comes to something like what you were experiencing

(25:38):
to actually set that boundary and say no longer, I'm not going
to do this anymore. This isn't good for me, for my
soul, for my journey. So Congrats, that's a very hard,
difficult thing and like Rachel said, very powerful to be able
to set the boundary and actuallycontinue walking through or
walking forward. The process after, it's a little
bit hard, but to do it was like it was easy.

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Stay spirited. Now you've helped people from

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all walks of life, some near death and others in deep
emotional pain. What has it been like to step
into this work publicly? Now, that was tough.
That was hard. That was really hard.
I never told any friends or family until three years ago.
Now, I did show one of my familymembers what I could do one time

(27:21):
because they were very sick. But that was probably like 15
years ago. 20 years ago, my sister had been real sick.
She's laying down in bed with mymom and I like to joke around a
lot. And back then, at that time, I
was like, hey, don't what's wrong with you?
And my mom's like, hey, leave her alone.
She's feeling like this, like that.
Wow. I said, hey, mom, maybe you

(27:42):
shouldn't be too fostered. If she has some kind of thing,
you might catch her from her andmy system just go away.
And I was like, OK, you feel real bad.
Hey, you want to feel better? Her words were like, shut up,
leave me alone. And I'm like, no, for real.
I'm being serious. If you want to feel better.
And she's, what are you talking about?
Crazy. And I'm like, you know, I'm just

(28:05):
asking you want to feel better? She says, of course, who wants
to feel like this? My stomach hurts, my head hurts,
blah, blah, blah. And I was like, well, I think I
can make you feel better right away.
What do you mean? I said just do you want to feel
better? I say, usually people have to
tell me I'm not going to go out and look for people to help
them. She said, what are you talking

(28:26):
about? I said, do you want to feel
better? Yes or no?
Simple, nothing in between. Yes.
I said OK, give me a minute. So I walk out the room.
I go sit on the sofa and I closemy eyes and I begin.
And then I get up about a minuteor two later, about two minutes.

(28:46):
And then I go stand back by the doorway of my mom's bedroom and
I'm just watching TV with them. I hear my mom laughing.
My sister chalk up a little bit and I didn't say nothing.
I'm just waiting to hear her saysomething.
And I continued watching the show with them.
They were laying down. I was standing up.
And then I say, oh, hey, how do you feel?

(29:10):
She just stopped. And she just looked around like,
I'm. I'm OK.
I said, what do you mean you're OK?
How do you feel? How's your head feel?
How's your stomach feel? Yeah, they feel better.
I said, well, what happened? I don't know.
And then she starts laughing. And I said, so you feel better?

(29:33):
And then my mom looked at her and she smiled at her.
What happened? And I don't know.
Wait a minute, What did you do? I just sat down so I could make
you feel better. What do you mean, crazy?
What did you do? And I said, oh, nothing, Just
little something I do so I couldhelp people feel better.
And then she started laughing like, you're crazy.

(29:55):
And I was like, we have, but youfeel good, right?
She just starts laughing and she's just shaking her head
like, yeah, I guess. I said, you guess.
You know what? I wish I knew how to get you
sick back to how you were so that you could be really
thankful and grateful I said, but I don't know how to do that.
It's just like that, I guess. Thanks.
Whatever I said. See, you're still not grateful.

(30:15):
You think within this many minutes time, something just
came out of the blue and you just felt better from both of
those areas and your body feeling sore and this and that
and you just feel bad. You know what the good thing is?
I don't need to feel good. I don't need the praise.
I don't need the oh, you should be thanking me as much.
I don't need that. You're better.
I got to go and I just left. That was it.

(30:37):
So. Xavier, what is your, what's
your process with this healing that you do?
So what I do is I just need to look at a person's eyes after
they tell me what's going on, what's wrong with them?
I close my eyes and well, white light just comes.
It just fills my body and then there's white light all around

(30:59):
me. I'm surrounded by white light
and then I just direct that white light towards where
they're saying that they don't feel well at.
Can you do that virtually too? Oh yeah, I mostly do it
virtually. As long as I can see the
person's eyes, then I can do that.
Have you had any moments in yourhealing work that left you
stunned, or cases where the outcome seemed miraculous?

(31:23):
Yes, definitely. When I go to hospitals, I'll go
visit people who are like, say if they're like in a serious
condition, ICU and so forth, I'll go there and they usually
tell me, hey, listen, the doctorsaid it's not looking good.
They probably got till tomorrow.Today they tell the family come

(31:43):
on in, so if they're out of town, they got this much time
left and so forth. So those are the times that that
I'll go. And yeah, there's been times
when I go and they don't end up leaving.
Again, I'm not saying that's because of me, but whatever
comes through me, I totally believe that's what it is.
That's what it is that helps those people and so forth.

(32:05):
Do you consciously work with anyguides or ancestors or source
energy when you're doing this work?
Source energy, yeah, I believe it is Source energy, God and so
forth. I believe that is a part, A
taste of source energy that person is getting a part of for
that moment in time so they can feel better or to be alleviated

(32:29):
from whatever they're feeling that's doing harm to them or
getting them ill, not feeling well, and so forth.
You've helped people whose doctors have given up on them.
What do you think traditional medicine is missing when it
comes to healing the whole person?
Well, I use traditional medicine, but I will say if that

(32:50):
is the third leading cause of death from this diagnosis and
from drugs, then if all fails, try another way.
Try another way. How could you not find another
way? Quick example, I remember
there's this person on Facebook.They're showing this child had

(33:11):
to be at least about two years old, two, maybe 3.
And they had cancer. And the was it the brain
somewhere wrong with the brain? And then I reached out to that
person because they were postingfor a friend of theirs.
And I said, hey, listen, man, I seen your story.
Hey, ask the mom if there's any way I could come see their

(33:33):
child. I read your post, you said that
they don't have much time left. You said the child's not going
to make it and so forth. And this is terminal.
Just do me a favor. I know you don't know me.
Here's my website, check it out,see some of the things that I
do. Look at the videos and give it

(33:55):
to her. Tell her, can I go ahead and see
her child? Just give me 10 minutes.
Just give me 10 minutes. Because I some of the minutes
are going to be done. We're talking.
But the other minutes, I just need to be around them.
It's worth a shot, isn't it? It's worth a shot.
Hey, you said that they're goingto leave.
Their child's going to leave. OK, I'll ask.

(34:15):
Nash comes back. She's.
I said, hey, reach back out to me.
Whatever happened, because this baby doesn't have much time,
according from what you wrote. Well, what's going on?
Oh, yeah, She said no. I said no, is this not her baby?
Like why no like that? That's crazy.
Why no? Why not try something else?

(34:38):
It can only help. It can't get the baby any worse.
And even if the baby did go, then hey, at least the child's
not suffering no more, I says. But the child's going to go
anyway, so why not try this? I don't even need to touch the
baby if she'd like I said I'd rather in this case just my
fingertips, but I don't need to.I just need to be by the baby.

(35:00):
And she says no, she's just going to pray and let God handle
it. I says wait.
Well, if that's the case, then why not let me do it?
I said, where do you think I come from?
I might not talk so light and eloquent like some guru on TV.
But look, I know what I could doand I know it's worth a try.

(35:23):
And I wanted to go ahead and drive over there to the house,
be with the child, give it a shot.
You guys can be there. You could bring whoever she
could be right next to me if shewants.
And I said, I just want to give it a try.
I got a little one, too. And I wouldn't know what to do
if that happened, but I know what I would do.
It's painful moments like that. And that's not the only time you

(35:46):
don't want to hear, especially little kids or something like
that. That's not the only time where
I'm like, frustrated. My level of frustration is just
so high because I'm like, let metry.
And I know what this could do. It sounds odd to you, but it's
not to me. Just let's give it a shot.
OK. All right, Have a good day.

(36:08):
I've spoken to a Reiki practitioner once that was
working on a woman that had cancer and what she ended up
telling me was she could work onher to ease the symptoms and the
pain and the suffering, but if her soul had already set up to
go there was nothing more reallyshe could do.

(36:28):
So I'm wondering if that's this situation.
Although this sounds like the parent just didn't want to even
let you try that, and I'm not sure why they wouldn't.
If you love your child, I would be willing to try anything.
Anything. You name it, get a can of Coke
and pour it over my head, maybe pick it out and name it.

(36:49):
As long as it's not going to harm my child any worse than
whatever they're doing. Try it.
Go ahead, have at it. I got to be there.
That's it. Yeah.
But yeah, and what you just mentioned right now, that
design, that something that thatis in that person's contract, if
you want to say. But just like everybody, you

(37:10):
could ask, hey, look, I don't want to go through that.
And of course, you can get a no.You can get a no, too.
You're not going to always get ayes.
As they say. People pray for this.
They pray for that, pray for this.
And sometimes you're going to get a no.
You're going to go through this,you're going to do it.
You don't like it, it's not going to feel good, but you're
going to learn from this. It's going to get you better.

(37:32):
And once you get out of it, Oh my God, I remember the timing of
that thing was hell being like, I went through here this and
that, and you left to talk aboutit, help somebody else through
your horrible situation. But in cases like that, if you
want to say on paper the petition that you know, hey, I'm
not ready to leave. I got to do this here.
I want to live this net and OK, well, we'll send you something

(37:54):
that's going to go ahead and help you and aid you to make
that happen, even though it sounds unbelievable.
You hold space for so much emotion and pain and
transformation. How do you restore yourself?
What grounds you? Whenever I do a session with
someone, I actually feel better when I do it.
Usually people ask me, hey, you know, after you're done, does it

(38:16):
take the energy out of you? I feel so much about people
feeling drained from this. It's no, not me.
I said. I actually feel better than I do
when I started because this, this energy and this white light
is still around me. And man, I feel a little over
exaggeration. I pick up a car and just toss
it. That's how I feel when I'm done.

(38:36):
A lot of people have to work on that grounding in order to get
that energy return. And you just intuitively do it.
It just yeah, yeah, yeah. That's cool.
Yeah, And even at times I'm looking for more after I'm done,
I'm looking for more for somebody else.
OK. If you got anybody else, If I
have to work on like, yeah, yeah, there'll be times when I
need more. Some people are born with a

(38:57):
sense of being different and that can feel isolating.
Did you ever struggle with belonging?
When I was little, back to the time when I first did, when I
was 5, when I first did it, I was across the street and Kitty
corner directly across the street, there's a mom and a
child and he looked a little bityounger than me because I was 5

(39:18):
and they were both crying. The child was holding the mom by
the ways and the mom had her hands on the child and they're
crying corner. And I thought that was like,
there must have been something really bad going on to be doing
that in public in midday to do that.
And so something came over me. I was like, man, I want to help

(39:40):
them. I said, man, what can I do to
help them? Oh my God, something bad
happened where they're crying and there's a little part of me
that was like a little scared. Oh my God, why are they crying
in the street? Why are they crying on the
street? Wow.
Right here by the bus stop, right in the corner.
I can picture right now as I'm saying it to you, that that
exact location. And then I'm like, maybe I could

(40:02):
help them. Maybe I can help them.
I wish I could help them. And the lady had to see me
because I was like staring rightat them.
And I just said I'm going to help them.
And I just closed my eyes. And I put my head down for a
couple seconds and I wanted to help there.
And then that's when I felt thislight over my body and then my
eyelids, I could see all this white bright light as if the sun

(40:24):
was in my eyes, even though I had my head down.
And then I just, I wanted that light to go towards them.
And I opened my eyes and about two seconds later they both
stopped, especially the kid because he was you could hear
his cry. They both stopped and they
started looking around and on both sides like it's something's

(40:45):
around them. And the mom was doing the same
thing too. And then the kid let go of the
mom and he's looking around. What was that?
And then I looked at them and then she looked down at him and
I couldn't hear what they're saying, but they said something.
But they were just like what? What happened?
I looked at myself like, Oh my God, did I do that?

(41:09):
Did. You feel like a superhero.
You know what my next words were?
My very next words were, if you ever do my other interviews, I
said, am IA superhero because you're 5, so you're going to say
things like that? I'm superhero.
Oh, my God. Yeah.
I started looking at my hands. I started looking at my legs.

(41:31):
What's going on? Wow, what is this?
Oh my God, did I do that? Forbid I'm walking home and I'm
like, who am I going to tell? When does the flying part come
in? Am I going to get to fly now or
how does this work? And then I was like, wait, let
me try to run. Let me see if I can run faster

(41:52):
like that flash guy. And I was like, and I started to
run that. I think I'm a little bit faster.
I don't know. I started ticking on my arms or
my shirt like, Oh my God, did mymuscles get bigger?
I started doing that and I'm by myself.
That's pretty much how it went. So as your practice evolves,
what's next for you now? What's your greater vision for

(42:13):
this work? I'd really like to help people
in larger groups. Like a mass healing.
Yeah, yeah, like a mass. Healing.
Wow, have you tried that yet? I almost did one time at the
school, but then they shut me down at the last minute.
No, our principal said like thisand that and this other lady's
going to be there. She's going to be doing this

(42:35):
other presentation. It won't take you long.
What about people that are diabetic and people that are
older and they hurt when they walk and this and that?
Yeah. I think that might be too much
for them. They might think it's a little
weird. I said yeah, but I bet you the
results don't feel weird. People are just so afraid of the
unknown, even though they'll dive into other types of quote

(42:57):
UN quote healing practices that are actually quite harmful and
there's no harm behind this. And they are so afraid of it
just because they don't know it and a doctor didn't tell them
that it's okay. Yeah, definitely.
And I always equate that to the nothing against people who took
the shot. I have families who took the
COVID shot and so forth. I would always tell people like,

(43:19):
no, that's, I swear, the minute that thing came before they
announced it that they were going to give something that
they're preparing to go ahead and help people with this.
I close my eyes and it just no, no, no.
And then I told my mom, you knowwhat?
You're not taking the shot. I've definitely taken the shot.
You're not taking the shot. I'll let him know.

(43:40):
But she let your kids know. No, that's his watch.
That's interesting because a lotof people that are spiritual, we
didn't take it. It's like we had a discernment.
We knew something's up with this.
Yes, definitely, definitely. And as you dug in deeper, then,
well, you don't even have to really go deep.
Hey, let me see the ingredients.Let's see what it's made of.
We don't have it. Oh, we're definitely not taking

(44:01):
it. Come on, come on, come on.
That's a joke, right? That's how I went at it and
looked at it when I first seen that.
Hey, what's in it? Well, we we don't know.
Oh, come on. I'm not thinking as a predator.
Come on. We don't even know like that.
That's enough. Hey, how about the liability?
What if I get sick with this? Who do I get?
If I got to get somebody, If I get sick or if I get a bad

(44:24):
reaction, who do I get? Oh, yeah, There's no liability.
Oh, there's not a chance I take this stuff.
That means there's something wrong.
Yeah. Then yeah, that's not going to
happen. Yeah.
All right, Xavier, it's time forour rapid fire round.
Sure don't think, just feel. Astrological sign.
Scopia. First color or energy you sense

(44:45):
when you begin a healing. Why?
One word to describe your near death experience.
Now. Most unexpected place someone
has asked you for healing? In the street.
Do you feel more connected to the past, the future, or the
present? Future.
What grounds you instantly? Healing.

(45:06):
If you could ask source one question, what would it be?
What day do I leave? Favorite thing about being
human? My son.
Nice, Xavier, thank you so much for sharing your truth and your
courage and your light with us today.
It's rare to speak with someone who's touched both sides of the

(45:27):
veil and chose to return not just to live, but to heal.
To our listeners, if something stirred within you during this
episode, don't ignore it. Also, for our listeners, how can
they connect with you? Yes, they can just go to our
website, it's my name xavieroman.com, that's Xavier
roman.com. And they can see all my social

(45:51):
media tabs on the website as well, and then they can see
video of be doing sessions with people and so forth.
Beautiful. We've included all of Xavier's
contact information in the episode description.
Reach out. Listen to the whisper.
Healing is not only possible, it's your birthright.
And to all of you navigating theliminal, walking the edges, or
finding your way back to the center, stay open, stay curious,

(46:16):
and as always. To the Spirit podcast,
Supernatural Society. I'm Ghost Ghost.
Divine Source Heaven. It's magic Magic, magic, magic

(46:37):
magic.
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