July 16, 2025 • 48 mins
In this very special (and slightly unhinged) episode of To The Spirit, we’re stepping into the courtroom of the strange: where outrageous theories meet cold logic, and not even Paul McCartney is safe.
Beck and Rachel present their wildest evidence in defense of some of the world’s most infamous conspiracy theories including:
- Birds Aren’t Real
- Denver Airport & the Illuminati
- The Mandela Effect
- The Moon Landing Hoax
- Paul is Dead
- Area 51 & Roswell
-MKUltra Never Ended
But there’s a twist… our judge is a skeptic. EnterPeter: no-nonsense, no-crystals, and no patience for reptilianshapeshifters...unless, of course, the evidence compels him.
Will he rule “Deep Truth” or dismiss it as bunk?
Will Rachel behave in court? (No.)
Will Beck finally convince Peter that pigeons are sus? (Maybe.)
This courtroom-style throwdown is packed with laughs, wild facts, and just enough mystery to keep you wondering...
Court is in session.
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You're. Listening.
To to the Spirit Podcast. Welcome back, dear listeners of
the Weird and watchers of the strange.
You're listening to to The Spirit, the only show where we
question reality, debate the unexplainable, and occasionally
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argue over whether birds are actually CIA drones.
I'm your host back. And as always, I'm joined by my
Co counsel and cosmic weirdness,the one and only Rachel.
Hello and I've brought all the weird with me today.
I'm looking forward to this. Me too.
But today, court is in session because joining us is our
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friend, Skeptic and today's Honorary Judge Peter.
Welcome to my court. He's here to preside over one of
the strangest courtrooms in podcast history in today's
special conspiracy court. Order in the court.
Debunked or deep truth, Rachel and I will present our best
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evidence and oddball theories, while Judge Peter will decide
whether each case is certifiablybunk or suspiciously legit.
We've got wild testimony, we've got questionable documents, and
we've got a verdict for every theory.
Let the court of conspiracy commence.
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This is our first case. Birds aren't real.
Go ahead and make your opening statement, please.
Your Honor, esteemed citizens ofthe tinfoil jury, I present a
case so feather ruffling it might just mulch your mind the
viral theory that birds are not real.
That's right, avian espionage. Beaks with batteries, feathers
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with firmware. Now I know what you're thinking.
Surely a Robin isn't running Recon.
But have you ever watched a pigeon not blink for 30 straight
minutes while squatting on a power line like it's a
Pentagon's watchtower? I rest my binoculars.
And the kicker? Some of these birds have
allegedly malfunctioned in public.
As in screen freeze, wings up, buffering, bird mode.
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Exhibit A Surveillance drones modeled after birds.
They exist, which means someone thought, you know what?
The Air Force is missing? Parakeets.
Exhibit B. The jokes.
Website popularity a little too viral if you ask me.
That's how they hide things now,by laughing in your face.
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That's my evidence. Beck, I'm curious, when you talk
about birds being drones, are you talking about all birds?
That's just crazy, your Honor. No, not all birds, but quite a
lot of them. I presented evidence.
You presented evidence showing some birds acting weird.
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My issue here is that when you say birds aren't real, that's
the case that birds aren't real.So you're saying some birds and
honestly back a very small percentage of birds aren't real,
correct? A percentage of birds that's
correct. What would you put that
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percentage as? Well, your Honor, it's a
conspiracy theory and I'm not quite exactly sure, but.
I'm ready right now to throw outthis case because this is
nonsense. I'm a Southern judge, which
means I'm no nonsense. And this sounds to me like a lot
of nonsense. I will tell you that birds,
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because God, our Lord Almighty, provided a creature that He
deemed fit to fly and we as humans saw that and we took that
design and we mirrored it so that we could touch the sky as
well. So birds influenced us.
I don't think we influenced birds.
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How did the judge go Southern? The judge went southern because
I'm a no nonsense judge. And again, Miss Beck, this seems
like nonsense. I say birds are real.
Are you seriously suggesting that woodpeckers are not solar
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powered? Only if you believe the beak is
just a beak, Peter. What if it's a vibrational
scanner? You've seen them go at trees
like they're mining data, not looking for bugs.
Woodpeckers are nature's USB drives.
What about the birds that poop on the cards?
You probably think, why would surveillance drones do that?
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Well, that's a classic misdirection tactic, Peter.
You think they get away with spying if they didn't
occasionally bomb a windshield? That's just firmware update
leakage. First of all, I think council is
way too familiar with the court,it's Judge Peter.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. All right, that's number one.
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Number two, I've seen the insides of a woodpecker
personally through Google. All right, with the tongue wraps
around the brain because does that pack, pack, pack and and so
it doesn't get concussed. All right, I think a lot of our
football players could appreciate that if if the tongue
wrapped around the brain protectconcussions.
But that's a whole nother story.What I'm saying is that birds
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are real. And you, my friend, might need
some counseling. Our second case is Denver
International Airport. Go ahead and open your case.
Your Honor, the Denver airport isn't just a place for long
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layovers and overpriced trail mix, as it's been described by
Jesse Ventura in Conspiracy Theory.
It's an Illuminati coded hub of strange art, underground tunnels
and apocalyptic horse statues with glowing eyes, for example.
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Your honor, the creepy artwork. There are murals inside of the
airport that depict apocalyptic and dystopian scenes.
One famously shows a gas masked soldier burning cities and
weeping children. I don't know about you, but that
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is not the kind of art I want tosee when I'm about to be taken
up into the sky. My next piece of evidence is the
New World Airport Commission. What is the deal mentioned on
the capstone? The airport's Freemason
Capstone, dated March 19th, 1994, credits New World Airport
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Commission for the airport's construction.
Now it doesn't exist. There's no official record of
this organization ever existing.No website, no history, no
contact info. People have searched for years
with no luck, and the name feelssuspicious.
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The name sounds eerily close to New World Order, a popular
conspiracy theory term for an alleged secretive global elite
aiming to control the world, andthe airport's explanation?
DIA has claimed that it was simply a temporary name for a
group of local businesses in ourorganizations that help plan the
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opening, but no one can find anyofficial documentation to back
that up. And even more fuel for this is
the vague and ominous name combined with the Freemason
symbol on the plaque has convinced many that the airport
is linked to secret societies orglobal control agendas.
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Now don't even get me started onLucifer the Demon Horse, a 32
foot tall blue Mustang sculpturewith glowing red eyes that
killed its creator. When a piece of it fell on him,
it became an ominous symbol of the airport.
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And finally, Your Honor, let's just talk about these
underground tunnels of the Denver airport.
There are miles of tunnels underneath the airport, sparking
theories of secret bunkers, Illuminati headquarters, or even
reptilian hideouts. Like, are we really just moving
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the luggage down there? I don't think so, Your Honor.
I rest my case. Well, you.
Provided a lot of evidence. I don't know if it's the same
accent I was doing, but here's what's happening.
Let's take it 1 by 1. Miss Raquel.
Raquel. Rachel.
What? What's your name?
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Your Honor, Rachel will do. Rachel All right, so first you
say that there is a 32 foot statue of a horse.
Named Lucifer, Your Honor. Do you know why we have a 32
foot horse statue, Miss Rachel? It's because the government
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doesn't want to pay for an airport.
So we depend on independent investors and some of those
investors owned horses. So the horse is just to show
respect to our investors for theairport that millions of
Americans fly through every week.
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With red eyes, your honor. Red.
Eye. Listen, color is subjective.
For you, it's red. For me, it's Peach.
It really depends on the eyes looking at it.
All right. And As for those tunnels, did I
mention, Miss Rachel, that millions of Americans fly
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through that airport a week? Where would you put all that
luggage? It's like trash.
You put it underground so good American people don't have to
see it. Your honor, I didn't even hit on
the topic that Robin Williams soul is trapped in a gargoyle.
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No you didn't, but you did mention Freemasons like 6 times.
Miss Rachel, is this a Nicholas Cage movie?
Miss Rachel, do you think that the Declaration of Independence
is buried underneath the Denver airport?
Your honor, there is symbolism riddled throughout that whole
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airport, Miss. Rachel, symbolism is an
interesting topic, isn't it? What that symbol means to you
doesn't necessarily mean it means the same thing to somebody
else. Art is art, Miss Rachel, and
just because you see art a certain way, seemingly satanic,
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doesn't mean it's actually Satanic.
And what about the murals, Your Honor?
Don't you find that ominous and haunting?
Miss Rachel. The murals.
The painted murals I would tell you to re listen to.
Art is art and just because it means something to you as an
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individual doesn't mean it's gotsome cotton picking meaning
beyond anything. Art is just supposed to make you
feel you feel a certain way. But your neighbor, you know,
next door, the swingers that youdon't talk to, when they fly
through the Denver airport, theysee something different.
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And let's not forget that your lead statement mentioned Jesse
Ventura. Do you want me to really talk to
you about former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura, who now
lives in Mexico, because he's sobrain addled, he doesn't believe
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in this great United States of America where you're in court
right now? He was also Jesse, The Body,
Ventura and WWE. Let's not forget that, Your
Honor. Miss Rachel, you want me to look
at your lead witness as a formerWWE, formerly WWF wrestler?
Madam, I would suggest as the previous case that you seek
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counseling because I think you are in need of some very deep
introspective research. I'm ready to hear the next case.
You know, the Denver airport is filled with thermite and I know
that because I was governor of Minnesota and then I moved to
Mexico that. Was really that?
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Was really. That's how I learned about it.
I bet you did. Silence in the court.
Our next case is the Mandela Effect.
Go ahead and proceed with your opening.
Statement Ladies and gentlemen of the conspiracy court, have
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you ever sworn you remembered something one way only to be
told you're wrong by everyone, Google and even your own mom?
Welcome to the Mandela Effect. It's not just misremembering,
it's like reality hit shuffle. You're telling me it was always
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Berenstain and not Berenstain? That's not a memory error, Your
honor. That's interdimensional gas
lighting. We've got people quoting Luke, I
am your father, only to be told it was No, I am your father.
Really. So now we're rewriting Star Wars
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Canon 2. What's next?
Darth Vader moonwalking? Your Honor, I have exhibit A
famous examples such as Monopoly, Man's missing Monocle,
Luke, I am your father, etcetera, etcetera.
Cern's been smashing atoms like it's in a rave in Geneva.
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Who's to say they didn't accidentally knock us into the
wrong timeline? Your honor, and online forums
filled with consistent false memories.
I rest my case. Miss Beck, here's the deal.
This is a tough one for me. Nelson Mandela died in the
1980s. That is misremembering the
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Monopoly Man's missing monocle. I agree.
People have confused the Monopoly man with the Planter's
peanut. The plan is Peanut has a
monocle. The Monopoly man does not have a
monocle. Luke, I am Your Father is right
up there with that escalated quickly.
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As people who are familiar with Anchorman know, that's not the
actual line, but it's become a part of the social zeitgeist.
But that doesn't mean it's real,Miss Beck.
May I just say, Your Honor, you say that we're all just
misremembering things, that that's human error.
But human error doesn't explain millions of people remembering
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the same wrong thing. Judge Peter, that's not
forgetfulness. That's a software rollback.
In the simulation, somebody hit Control Z on reality.
Miss Beck, you talk about millions of people which may
have meant more 100 years ago. Do you know the population of
this here planet is nearing if not exceeding 8 billion people?
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Millions are the hundreds of thousands of ago.
So, yes, Miss Beck, I am saying that millions of people are
misremembering. That said, this judge in this
court on this day was a child once, and this child judge
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remembered berenstain bears. There weren't no berenstain
bears. That's some hokey, as we say in
the South. So As for interdimensional gas
Latin, this judge believes it was Berenstain Bears, and that
ain't because I'm a Jew, that's because that's what it was.
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So in the case of the Mandela Effect, this judge agrees with
the prosecution. Case 4.
The moon landing was faked. Your Honor, 1969 may have marked
one small step for man, but somesay it was one big leap for
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Stanley Kubrick. Your honor, the moon landing is
not real. Let's just say it it wasn't
real, it was staged, it was fake, and here is the evidence
to prove it. First of all, let's talk about
the American flag that appears to flutter or wave, especially
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when astronauts are holding it well, since the moon has no
atmosphere and therefore no wind, critics argue that the
movement proves the scene was staged, likely filmed on Earth
in a studio with airflow. And then let's talk about the
perfectly lit photos. No lights?
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No problem, the moon landing photos are crystal clear with
well lit astronauts and equipment even when they're in
deep shadow. Come on.
Skeptics argue it would be impossible to get such an evenly
lit, professional quality imageswithout artificial lighting like
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you'd use on a movie set. For instance.
They claim the light sources look too controlled
indirectional, suggesting studiofloodlights were used.
Light sources also came from different directions, proving
that it was studio lighting and NASA allegedly lost or recorded
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over the original high quality telemetry data and video footage
of the Apollo 11 moon landing. How convenient, skeptics ask.
How could humanity's greatest achievement just go missing?
It sounds like someone is hidingsomething to me.
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They believe the tapes might have shown evidence of fakery.
Flaws in the footage simply never existed.
Also, theorists believe that Stanley Kubrick directed a fake
version of the moon landing for NASA, and that he secretly
confessed this in his 1980 film The Shining.
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The idea is Kubrick, obsessed with symbolism and subtext,
encoded hidden clues throughout the movie as a form of guilt.
Or whistle blowing. Let's point out in the movie The
Shining Danny sweater. The most famous clue.
Little Danny Torrance wears A knitted Apollo 11 sweater when
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he enters the haunted room 237. Adding to that room 237, the
room number was changed from thenovels Room 217 to 237, which
conspiracy theorists claim references the 237,000 miles
from Earth to the moon, which isthe average distance.
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Now let's talk about the carpet pattern.
The hallway carpet Danny plays on resembles NASA launchpad
layouts, especially when viewed from above.
And then as Danny rises from thecarpet in the Apollo sweater,
it's said to symbolize a rocket launch.
And then Jack Torrance's descentinto madness is believed to
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mirror Kubrick's own mental and moral struggle, allegedly
forcing into secrecy and psychological torment after
faking the moon landing. All work, no play may be a
reference to soul crushing laborof secrecy and deception, and
some theorists say the Overlook Hotel is a metaphor for America
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itself, haunted by its dark pastand buried secrets.
I rest my case. Miss Rachel, you provide this
court with a lot of circumstantial evidence that I
can tell you spent a lot of timesourcing and presenting to this
court. Unfortunately for you, this
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judge has a best friend that is of the female specimen.
All right, men and women can be friends.
We talk about boys and other things.
That's not of consequence. My best friend was dating a man
who said the moon landing was faked.
And we had a conversation essentially saying where I said
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I believe the moon landing was real, but I couldn't actually
justify why that was. So I went and I looked and I did
the research. And do you know what I found?
Miss Rachel? What did you find, Your Honor?
Miss Rachel, I think the most damning evidence is the why.
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Why would the moon landing be faked?
Do you know the answer to that? Why didn't we ever go back to
the moon? Is the real question.
About It's not about why we didn't go back.
We said, quote, UN quote, that we went to the moon so that we
could show up Russia, that the United States was able to get to
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the moon before Russia got to the moon during the Cold War.
The thing about it, besides all the evidence, all the
imaginative reasons why it was faked, that really pushed me to
believe that the moon landing was real, was that we would have
done it just to show up the Russians.
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And the Russians reported that our moon landing was real.
Your honor, did we have colored television in 1969?
Miss Rachel, I was born in 1984.I can't tell you when we
actually had color television, Your Honor.
I know some of the shows that Nick and not for the old
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millennials that some were blackand white and some were color,
but I don't know the year. Your Honor, how did we
communicate the 1969 long distance?
Miss Rachel, I will tell you right now this court is under
the impression that the United States claimed they landed on
the moon to show up Russia during the Cold War.
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And Russia said, yeah, the United States did it.
If you can give me a reason to believe why Russia would lie, I
will side in your favor. They set it up to prove that we
had the technology, where in fact we did not have the
technology we didn't even have. Your Honor.
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With respect, with respect, yourHonor, we did not have color
television. We didn't even have cell phones.
We didn't have Bluetooth. We didn't have any of that
technology. But you're telling me that
people went up to the moon and they just talked to us from
Earth? Are you kidding me?
We didn't. We even.
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We probably barely had birth control at that time.
Well, we mean they could. Talk to them on live.
Control. Is anti.
Is anti Jesus first of? All on live television.
They had the technology. Give me a break.
Rachel, I need you to tell me why our at the time enemy would
confirm that we done bested themif it wasn't real.
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They researched the type of metal that was on that rocket
and what type of heat that it actually could withstand, and in
fact, it cannot withstand the temperature of the atmospheric
heat that it would have to go through.
In reality, that rocket would have disintegrated.
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I understand what you're saying.You're telling me everything,
but this court wants to hear. If you can tell me a logical
reason why our enemy, the whole purpose for why we said we
landed on the moon, would agree with it, I will find you in
favor. It's.
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Public. It's public control and
manipulation. So you're saying that our enemy
wasn't our enemy, but a Patsy for our goals?
They're all in it together. Can you prove it with any of
your research? That was a way to make money, to
have war, to have crisis. They're all in it together to
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cause chaos and to get so. You're saying that the United
States and Russia said that we will both benefit if our
countries are at war. So we need you to be on our side
and say that we did do it, but that wouldn't cause no conflict.
They'd be more of a conflict if Russia said hey, them in the US
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ain't telling the truth. They faked it.
They used one of them Hollywood directors to do it.
There was deeper meaning behind it, your Honor.
Miss Rachel, I'll give you one more chance if you can explain
to me why our enemy at the time,at the time, depending on when
you hear this podcast, why Russia would side with us at the
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beginning of the Cold War and acknowledge that the United
States of America, our God fearing selves, landed and
planted our flag on the moon. Why they'd agree with it when it
was incorrect, I will agree withyou.
Today, Your Honor, I don't understand the corruption of the
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high and mighty wealthy leaders of the world, but if you can
explain to me how a metal that cannot go through the heat of
the atmosphere made it to the moon and there was magic
technology that live streamed tothe Earth in 1969, be my guest,
Your honor, I rest my case. You can rest your case.
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Unfortunately you did not give me the information I wanted.
I feel like it's a misstep that 911 wasn't on this list if you
want to talk about a ship burning.
But in this case, this court finds that the moon landing was
legit. You know, the education in the
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South is inferior to the northern education.
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Our next case is Paul McCartney,died in 1966.
Go ahead with your opening statement.
Your Honor, Abbey Road wasn't just an album cover, it was a
crime scene in plain sight. The Barefoot Paul?
Clearly a corpse. The license plate that reads 28I
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F, as in he would have been 28 if he lived.
That's not subtle, that's Illuminati Morris code.
They said Paul died in 1966 and was replaced by Billy Shears,
which sounds like a guy who trims hedges and sings backup
but apparently also wins global fame.
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And if you play Revolution 9 backwards, you allegedly hear
Turn Me On Dead Man, which honestly sounds like half of
TikTok these days. But still Exhibit A.
Your Honor, hidden messages and song lyrics.
I buried Paul album cover symbolism.
Barefoot Paul equals corpse. The facial differences.
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Forget fillers, that's a whole new man.
Your honor. Call the Fab 4 what they are
now. The Beatles featuring guest
star, not Paul. The fall theory gaining traction
even in recent documentaries. Your Honor, I had enough here to
just bury this whole case. Miss Beck, can you offer me A
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cause of death? Yes, he was killed in a car
accident. Can you offer me A cause of
death that you can prove? No, I can't prove it, Your
Honor, but we all know that he died in a car accident.
Miss Beck, this court believes that you are the victim of the
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generational conspiracy. You're a bit older.
Are you familiar with the artistknown as Avril Lavigne?
Yes, I am, your honor. Are you familiar with the Avril
Lavigne conspiracy? I am, your honor.
And would you say the Avril Lavigne conspiracy is quite
similar to the Paul McCartney conspiracy?
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I would say no, it's a very different, very different
conspiracy because Avril Lavignewas either cloned or as a robot
now, whereas whereas Paul or Fall was actually recruited by
the queen herself. Because Billy Shears looks so
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much like Paul and she didn't want mass hysteria.
So they did a little bit of this, a little bit of that on
his face just to make it. You can tell, your honor, the
eyes are different colors, but he looks like him.
He looks close to him, but he isno Paul.
Miss Beck. What I'm hearing right now, it
sounds like a fan of early Battles music that didn't lock
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when they split up and Paul wenthis own way.
Your honor, people grieved and looked for signs that weren't
there, but they buried him in plain sight and handed us a
shovel made of vinyl. These weren't clues.
These were confessions wrapped in harmonies.
And Miss Beck, you listen to records backwards while on LSD
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is not evidence for this court. Let me just point out that Sir
Paul McCartney, whilst not a pure blood American, is is is a
big part of American zeitgeist if you will.
Because put the Paul McCartney era and The Beatles era stands
pretty strong. I think that you're not
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appreciating what a little bit of plastic surgery and a new
voice does to a musician. Yeah, but it was his entire
skull shape that changed, your honor.
What was he doing Pilates for his cheekbones?
Can you? Prove to me his skull shape is
differently. Sir Paul is still alive and last
I knew, no one's done any dad damn tests on his skull size.
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Your Honor, I just say pull up the Internet, the good old
Googles, and just take a look atthe old Paul McCartney and the
later aged Paul McCartney and you tell me yourself, Your
Honor, if you don't see that difference, I will rest my case.
First of all, despite my Southern accent, this court
recognized that Sir Paul has been to my hometown and he's a
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great man. That was fall, Your honor, That
was fall. Secondly, Miss Beck, I'm afraid
to tell you that Sir Paul not only did not die, but was able
to sustain a career as a solo artist despite split with The
Beatles. Now, maybe he had some plastic
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surgery. It happens.
But this court deems that Sir Paul McCartney is not only still
alive, but still alive and crushing it.
Very well. He's dismissed.
Y'all don't got me knocking overmy knickknacks and whatnot.
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Not the knickknacks. K6 Area 51 and the Roswell
incident. We can't have a conspiracy court
without addressing the Cornerstone case, Area 51.
Is it simply a testing site or the warehouse for
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extraterrestrial leftovers? Exhibit A In July 1947, a
rancher near Roswell, NM, found strange metallic debris unlike
anything he'd seen before. The US military claimed it was a
flying disc, but quickly reversed their story, saying it
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was just a weather balloon. Kind of sounds like things that
are going on today, wouldn't yousay, your honor?
Decades later, the Air Force said it was part of Project
Mogul, a secret program using high altitude balloons to spy on
Soviet nukes. Witnesses later described
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unburnable metal, strange symbols, and even small alien
bodies, though the government claimed they were just test
dummies from a different decade.Many believe the wreckage in
possibly alien tech was quietly moved to Area 51 for a study in
reverse engineering. The flip flop in stories and
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secrecy only fueled suspicions of massive cover up.
Exhibit B. In 1989, Bob Lazar came forward
claiming that he worked at a secret site near Area 51 called
S4. There he saw an alien spacecraft
and worked on reverse engineering their advanced
technology, including gravity propulsion systems.
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Lazar described 9 flying saucersstored underground and claimed
that the craft used a rare element called Element 1:15 to
power their engines. His story sparked huge public
interest but is controversial. Many question his credentials
and evidence. But despite scepticism, Lazar's
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testimony remains one of the most famous in Area 51 lore and
Exhibit C. For decades, the US government
denied Area 51 even existed, fueling mystery and conspiracy
theories. It wasn't until 2013 that the
CIA officially acknowledged Area51 and declassified documents.
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The site was revealed as a testing ground for spy planes
and classified aircraft, but secrecy remains tight.
The long denial only added to the suspicion about what really
goes on there. My final exhibit, The storm on
Area 51 where the Internet goes wild IN2019A viral Facebook
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event called Storm Area 51, TheyCan't Stop All of Us invited
people to raid the secret base. It started as a joke but quickly
gained millions of responses worldwide.
The event sparked real gatherings near Area 51 but
ended peacefully with no break insurance.
But it showed how Area 51 remains a powerful symbol in UFO
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culture and Internet memes. I rest my case.
Miss Rachel, you've been before this court before with nonsense
claims and conspiracy theories, and this court normally would
look at you and say you're wasting your time and more
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importantly, the court's time. However, according to Google,
the Pentagon and the US government in general maintains
an official stance that does notconfirm or acknowledge Bob
Lazar's claims regarding reverseengineering alien technology at
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Area 51. That said, this court is not in
a position to tell you you are wrong.
This court, therefore, must follow the United States of
America and the Pentagon and saywe don't know.
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Thank you, Your honor. And our final case project, MK
Ultra, and it never really endedallegedly.
Your Honor, if you think MK Ultra ended in the 70s, I've got
some subliminal messages to sellyou.
This wasn't just a bad idea withacid.
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The CIA was out here playing Inception decades before
DiCaprio spun atop, and now you want me to believe they just
closed the program and walked away?
Come on, LSD mind experiments triggered assassins, targeted
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individuals who swear their coffee maker is listening.
The only thing that ended was the paper trail.
My exhibits, your honor. Declassified documents proving
LSD mind experiments, connectionto infamous cases, Unabomber Sir
Han Sir Han alleged extensions into media programming and
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targeted individuals. Questions around mass shooters
and unexplained personality shifts.
Ever scrolled social media and suddenly wanted to buy a $400.00
water bottle after seeing it once?
That's not coincidence your honor.
That's MK Ultra 2 point O now with algorithms.
Miss Beck, this Court is part ofthe United States of American
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government, allowing you to exercise your constitutional
rights to bring things to trial.That Constitution is very clear
that the FBI deals with domesticconcerns and the CIA deals with
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concerns outside of the country.At this moment, unless you have
further evidence, this Court wants to dismiss this case
because the CIA does not do anything on American soil.
You're saying we're living in a society where people live stream
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themselves eating soap for likes?
That's not evolution, that's programming.
That's capitalism, Miss Beck. The line between paranoia and
prophecy is paper thin, Judge Peter.
Especially when the government redacts everything but the
title. I know you're saying, Oh well,
the CIA isn't here in America. I've just got an accent because
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of you. I heard it.
And if you want to mock this judge in this court, I can tell
you right now, Miss Beck, that will not benefit you in the
least. Judge Peter, I love your
optimism, but the CIA was a Boy Scout and MK Ultra was its
badge, and psychological mayhem earned right here at home.
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Again, the official stance of the United States government,
which this court is happy to be a part of, is that the FBI
handles internal matters within the country and the CIA handles
matters outside of the country. Anything you say that speaks to
the CIA when operations on American soil, this court is
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ready to dismiss. It did happen on US soil
experiments. Conspiracy.
Experiments took place in New York, San Francisco, Montreal,
Canada and dozens of U.S. hospitals, prisons and.
Universities because, Miss Beck,just because you read a
Wikipedia article and read the testimony of dozens of United
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States of America citizens that were brutalized by these
projects, the position of this court is that it did not happen.
Your honor, the CIA set up safe houses in San Francisco and New
York. They hired prostitutes to lure
men, dosed them with LSD withoutconsent, and watched behind one
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way mirrors. Not exactly a foreign unfair
unless the foreigner was on acid.
Again, Miss Beck, whether or notthis totally did happen, the
position of this court is that the CIA only does operations
outside of the jurisdiction of this their country.
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Then please tell me why in 1977,Senator Ted Kennedy said the
deputy director of the CIA revealed that over 30
universities and institutions were involved in extensive
testing and experimentation program on unwitting U.S.
citizens. Quote.
UN quote. Because 10 Kennedy had just
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gotten drunk, murdered somebody,and wanted to shift the blame.
I don't know if that's actually true, if the years makes sense,
but I know he did it. And because he's a candidate, he
got away with it because he's a filthy Democrat.
But what I'm saying is that thisUnited States of America court
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followed the Constitution and again, for the third time, the
FBI handles things on the UnitedStates soil.
The CIA has no jurisdiction to complete operations here, Your
Honor. Operations abroad.
If the CIA never operated on US soil, then who was handing out
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LSD lace cocktails in San Francisco brothels like rave
Flyers at a Grateful Dead show? And more importantly, why did
the government have to form a Senate committee to stop?
It my paycheck is signed by the federal government.
Your Honor, I think you might becontrolled opposition.
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The word you're looking for is bought, and whether or not
that's true, this court finds your allegations in contempt and
fines for the defendant, which is the United States government.
You are wrong, Miss Beck. Regardless of the mounting
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evidence that you have, this court is dismissed.
Before we adjourn, Judge Peter, you've survived the weird, now
it's time to face the rapid fire.
No overthinking, just guts. What's 1 conspiracy theory you
secretly think might be true? Oh, none of this is real.
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This is all just a simulation. Flat Earth and five words or
less. There's a lot of dumb people I
don't know. That's 5 words but the the the
dad Damn earth is is round. Y'all flat earthers are dumb.
Do you trust Google Maps? 100%.
If time travel was real, what's the first event you'd go mess
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with? I feel like I'd want to kill
Hitler, but then Deadpool did that and it was up having him
kill a baby. How many pigeons are too many
pigeons? Ben, can I tell you, I live in
the suburbs and there's pigeons on my roof and I just bought a
dad, they have a new roof. So any pages on my roof in
suburbia kinda are too many daggone pigeons.
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Would you rather be abducted by aliens or stuck in Denver
Airport overnight? It depends if I'm the type that
the aliens would want to abduct and if they're traditional
aliens. If you woke up in 1969 tomorrow,
would you believe the moon landing is real?
The moon lane is real, the Russians are bad, and I would
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have a lot of the same thought that people in 1969 had that I
don't agree with today in 2025. You passed barely.
Thank goodness. That's a wrap on conspiracy
court. Huge thanks to our skeptical but
shockingly fair Judge Peter, andof course, my partner in theory,
Rachel. To our listeners, what did you
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think? Are birds secretly drones?
Did Paul croon his last in 1966?And more importantly, which side
are you on? Hit us up on social media with
your verdicts and don't forget to subscribe, rate and review
us. If you enjoyed this wild ride.
I know we did. Until next time, question
everything and don't trust the pigeons.
This is to the Spirit signing off to.
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The Spirit Podcast. Supernatural.
Society I'm. Ghost, thank you.
You're. Listening.
To to the Spirit Podcast. Welcome back, dear listeners of
the Weird and watchers of the strange.
You're listening to to The Spirit, the only show where we
question reality, debate the unexplainable, and occasionally
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argue over whether birds are actually CIA drones.
I'm your host back. And as always, I'm joined by my
Co counsel and cosmic weirdness,the one and only Rachel.
Hello and I've brought all the weird with me today.
I'm looking forward to this. Me too.
But today, court is in session because joining us is our
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friend, Skeptic and today's Honorary Judge Peter.
Welcome to my court. He's here to preside over one of
the strangest courtrooms in podcast history in today's
special conspiracy court. Order in the court.
Debunked or deep truth, Rachel and I will present our best
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evidence and oddball theories, while Judge Peter will decide
whether each case is certifiablybunk or suspiciously legit.
We've got wild testimony, we've got questionable documents, and
we've got a verdict for every theory.
Let the court of conspiracy commence.
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This is our first case. Birds aren't real.
Go ahead and make your opening statement, please.
Your Honor, esteemed citizens ofthe tinfoil jury, I present a
case so feather ruffling it might just mulch your mind the
viral theory that birds are not real.
That's right, avian espionage. Beaks with batteries, feathers
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with firmware. Now I know what you're thinking.
Surely a Robin isn't running Recon.
But have you ever watched a pigeon not blink for 30 straight
minutes while squatting on a power line like it's a
Pentagon's watchtower? I rest my binoculars.
And the kicker? Some of these birds have
allegedly malfunctioned in public.
As in screen freeze, wings up, buffering, bird mode.
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Exhibit A Surveillance drones modeled after birds.
They exist, which means someone thought, you know what?
The Air Force is missing? Parakeets.
Exhibit B. The jokes.
Website popularity a little too viral if you ask me.
That's how they hide things now,by laughing in your face.
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That's my evidence. Beck, I'm curious, when you talk
about birds being drones, are you talking about all birds?
That's just crazy, your Honor. No, not all birds, but quite a
lot of them. I presented evidence.
You presented evidence showing some birds acting weird.
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My issue here is that when you say birds aren't real, that's
the case that birds aren't real.So you're saying some birds and
honestly back a very small percentage of birds aren't real,
correct? A percentage of birds that's
correct. What would you put that
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percentage as? Well, your Honor, it's a
conspiracy theory and I'm not quite exactly sure, but.
I'm ready right now to throw outthis case because this is
nonsense. I'm a Southern judge, which
means I'm no nonsense. And this sounds to me like a lot
of nonsense. I will tell you that birds,
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because God, our Lord Almighty, provided a creature that He
deemed fit to fly and we as humans saw that and we took that
design and we mirrored it so that we could touch the sky as
well. So birds influenced us.
I don't think we influenced birds.
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How did the judge go Southern? The judge went southern because
I'm a no nonsense judge. And again, Miss Beck, this seems
like nonsense. I say birds are real.
Are you seriously suggesting that woodpeckers are not solar
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powered? Only if you believe the beak is
just a beak, Peter. What if it's a vibrational
scanner? You've seen them go at trees
like they're mining data, not looking for bugs.
Woodpeckers are nature's USB drives.
What about the birds that poop on the cards?
You probably think, why would surveillance drones do that?
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Well, that's a classic misdirection tactic, Peter.
You think they get away with spying if they didn't
occasionally bomb a windshield? That's just firmware update
leakage. First of all, I think council is
way too familiar with the court,it's Judge Peter.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. All right, that's number one.
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Number two, I've seen the insides of a woodpecker
personally through Google. All right, with the tongue wraps
around the brain because does that pack, pack, pack and and so
it doesn't get concussed. All right, I think a lot of our
football players could appreciate that if if the tongue
wrapped around the brain protectconcussions.
But that's a whole nother story.What I'm saying is that birds
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are real. And you, my friend, might need
some counseling. Our second case is Denver
International Airport. Go ahead and open your case.
Your Honor, the Denver airport isn't just a place for long
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layovers and overpriced trail mix, as it's been described by
Jesse Ventura in Conspiracy Theory.
It's an Illuminati coded hub of strange art, underground tunnels
and apocalyptic horse statues with glowing eyes, for example.
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Your honor, the creepy artwork. There are murals inside of the
airport that depict apocalyptic and dystopian scenes.
One famously shows a gas masked soldier burning cities and
weeping children. I don't know about you, but that
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is not the kind of art I want tosee when I'm about to be taken
up into the sky. My next piece of evidence is the
New World Airport Commission. What is the deal mentioned on
the capstone? The airport's Freemason
Capstone, dated March 19th, 1994, credits New World Airport
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Commission for the airport's construction.
Now it doesn't exist. There's no official record of
this organization ever existing.No website, no history, no
contact info. People have searched for years
with no luck, and the name feelssuspicious.
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The name sounds eerily close to New World Order, a popular
conspiracy theory term for an alleged secretive global elite
aiming to control the world, andthe airport's explanation?
DIA has claimed that it was simply a temporary name for a
group of local businesses in ourorganizations that help plan the
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opening, but no one can find anyofficial documentation to back
that up. And even more fuel for this is
the vague and ominous name combined with the Freemason
symbol on the plaque has convinced many that the airport
is linked to secret societies orglobal control agendas.
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Now don't even get me started onLucifer the Demon Horse, a 32
foot tall blue Mustang sculpturewith glowing red eyes that
killed its creator. When a piece of it fell on him,
it became an ominous symbol of the airport.
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And finally, Your Honor, let's just talk about these
underground tunnels of the Denver airport.
There are miles of tunnels underneath the airport, sparking
theories of secret bunkers, Illuminati headquarters, or even
reptilian hideouts. Like, are we really just moving
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the luggage down there? I don't think so, Your Honor.
I rest my case. Well, you.
Provided a lot of evidence. I don't know if it's the same
accent I was doing, but here's what's happening.
Let's take it 1 by 1. Miss Raquel.
Raquel. Rachel.
What? What's your name?
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Your Honor, Rachel will do. Rachel All right, so first you
say that there is a 32 foot statue of a horse.
Named Lucifer, Your Honor. Do you know why we have a 32
foot horse statue, Miss Rachel? It's because the government
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doesn't want to pay for an airport.
So we depend on independent investors and some of those
investors owned horses. So the horse is just to show
respect to our investors for theairport that millions of
Americans fly through every week.
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With red eyes, your honor. Red.
Eye. Listen, color is subjective.
For you, it's red. For me, it's Peach.
It really depends on the eyes looking at it.
All right. And As for those tunnels, did I
mention, Miss Rachel, that millions of Americans fly
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through that airport a week? Where would you put all that
luggage? It's like trash.
You put it underground so good American people don't have to
see it. Your honor, I didn't even hit on
the topic that Robin Williams soul is trapped in a gargoyle.
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No you didn't, but you did mention Freemasons like 6 times.
Miss Rachel, is this a Nicholas Cage movie?
Miss Rachel, do you think that the Declaration of Independence
is buried underneath the Denver airport?
Your honor, there is symbolism riddled throughout that whole
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airport, Miss. Rachel, symbolism is an
interesting topic, isn't it? What that symbol means to you
doesn't necessarily mean it means the same thing to somebody
else. Art is art, Miss Rachel, and
just because you see art a certain way, seemingly satanic,
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doesn't mean it's actually Satanic.
And what about the murals, Your Honor?
Don't you find that ominous and haunting?
Miss Rachel. The murals.
The painted murals I would tell you to re listen to.
Art is art and just because it means something to you as an
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individual doesn't mean it's gotsome cotton picking meaning
beyond anything. Art is just supposed to make you
feel you feel a certain way. But your neighbor, you know,
next door, the swingers that youdon't talk to, when they fly
through the Denver airport, theysee something different.
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And let's not forget that your lead statement mentioned Jesse
Ventura. Do you want me to really talk to
you about former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura, who now
lives in Mexico, because he's sobrain addled, he doesn't believe
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in this great United States of America where you're in court
right now? He was also Jesse, The Body,
Ventura and WWE. Let's not forget that, Your
Honor. Miss Rachel, you want me to look
at your lead witness as a formerWWE, formerly WWF wrestler?
Madam, I would suggest as the previous case that you seek
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counseling because I think you are in need of some very deep
introspective research. I'm ready to hear the next case.
You know, the Denver airport is filled with thermite and I know
that because I was governor of Minnesota and then I moved to
Mexico that. Was really that?
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Was really. That's how I learned about it.
I bet you did. Silence in the court.
Our next case is the Mandela Effect.
Go ahead and proceed with your opening.
Statement Ladies and gentlemen of the conspiracy court, have
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you ever sworn you remembered something one way only to be
told you're wrong by everyone, Google and even your own mom?
Welcome to the Mandela Effect. It's not just misremembering,
it's like reality hit shuffle. You're telling me it was always
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Berenstain and not Berenstain? That's not a memory error, Your
honor. That's interdimensional gas
lighting. We've got people quoting Luke, I
am your father, only to be told it was No, I am your father.
Really. So now we're rewriting Star Wars
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Canon 2. What's next?
Darth Vader moonwalking? Your Honor, I have exhibit A
famous examples such as Monopoly, Man's missing Monocle,
Luke, I am your father, etcetera, etcetera.
Cern's been smashing atoms like it's in a rave in Geneva.
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Who's to say they didn't accidentally knock us into the
wrong timeline? Your honor, and online forums
filled with consistent false memories.
I rest my case. Miss Beck, here's the deal.
This is a tough one for me. Nelson Mandela died in the
1980s. That is misremembering the
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Monopoly Man's missing monocle. I agree.
People have confused the Monopoly man with the Planter's
peanut. The plan is Peanut has a
monocle. The Monopoly man does not have a
monocle. Luke, I am Your Father is right
up there with that escalated quickly.
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As people who are familiar with Anchorman know, that's not the
actual line, but it's become a part of the social zeitgeist.
But that doesn't mean it's real,Miss Beck.
May I just say, Your Honor, you say that we're all just
misremembering things, that that's human error.
But human error doesn't explain millions of people remembering
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the same wrong thing. Judge Peter, that's not
forgetfulness. That's a software rollback.
In the simulation, somebody hit Control Z on reality.
Miss Beck, you talk about millions of people which may
have meant more 100 years ago. Do you know the population of
this here planet is nearing if not exceeding 8 billion people?
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Millions are the hundreds of thousands of ago.
So, yes, Miss Beck, I am saying that millions of people are
misremembering. That said, this judge in this
court on this day was a child once, and this child judge
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remembered berenstain bears. There weren't no berenstain
bears. That's some hokey, as we say in
the South. So As for interdimensional gas
Latin, this judge believes it was Berenstain Bears, and that
ain't because I'm a Jew, that's because that's what it was.
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So in the case of the Mandela Effect, this judge agrees with
the prosecution. Case 4.
The moon landing was faked. Your Honor, 1969 may have marked
one small step for man, but somesay it was one big leap for
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Stanley Kubrick. Your honor, the moon landing is
not real. Let's just say it it wasn't
real, it was staged, it was fake, and here is the evidence
to prove it. First of all, let's talk about
the American flag that appears to flutter or wave, especially
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when astronauts are holding it well, since the moon has no
atmosphere and therefore no wind, critics argue that the
movement proves the scene was staged, likely filmed on Earth
in a studio with airflow. And then let's talk about the
perfectly lit photos. No lights?
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No problem, the moon landing photos are crystal clear with
well lit astronauts and equipment even when they're in
deep shadow. Come on.
Skeptics argue it would be impossible to get such an evenly
lit, professional quality imageswithout artificial lighting like
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you'd use on a movie set. For instance.
They claim the light sources look too controlled
indirectional, suggesting studiofloodlights were used.
Light sources also came from different directions, proving
that it was studio lighting and NASA allegedly lost or recorded
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over the original high quality telemetry data and video footage
of the Apollo 11 moon landing. How convenient, skeptics ask.
How could humanity's greatest achievement just go missing?
It sounds like someone is hidingsomething to me.
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They believe the tapes might have shown evidence of fakery.
Flaws in the footage simply never existed.
Also, theorists believe that Stanley Kubrick directed a fake
version of the moon landing for NASA, and that he secretly
confessed this in his 1980 film The Shining.
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The idea is Kubrick, obsessed with symbolism and subtext,
encoded hidden clues throughout the movie as a form of guilt.
Or whistle blowing. Let's point out in the movie The
Shining Danny sweater. The most famous clue.
Little Danny Torrance wears A knitted Apollo 11 sweater when
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he enters the haunted room 237. Adding to that room 237, the
room number was changed from thenovels Room 217 to 237, which
conspiracy theorists claim references the 237,000 miles
from Earth to the moon, which isthe average distance.
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Now let's talk about the carpet pattern.
The hallway carpet Danny plays on resembles NASA launchpad
layouts, especially when viewed from above.
And then as Danny rises from thecarpet in the Apollo sweater,
it's said to symbolize a rocket launch.
And then Jack Torrance's descentinto madness is believed to
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mirror Kubrick's own mental and moral struggle, allegedly
forcing into secrecy and psychological torment after
faking the moon landing. All work, no play may be a
reference to soul crushing laborof secrecy and deception, and
some theorists say the Overlook Hotel is a metaphor for America
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itself, haunted by its dark pastand buried secrets.
I rest my case. Miss Rachel, you provide this
court with a lot of circumstantial evidence that I
can tell you spent a lot of timesourcing and presenting to this
court. Unfortunately for you, this
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judge has a best friend that is of the female specimen.
All right, men and women can be friends.
We talk about boys and other things.
That's not of consequence. My best friend was dating a man
who said the moon landing was faked.
And we had a conversation essentially saying where I said
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I believe the moon landing was real, but I couldn't actually
justify why that was. So I went and I looked and I did
the research. And do you know what I found?
Miss Rachel? What did you find, Your Honor?
Miss Rachel, I think the most damning evidence is the why.
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Why would the moon landing be faked?
Do you know the answer to that? Why didn't we ever go back to
the moon? Is the real question.
About It's not about why we didn't go back.
We said, quote, UN quote, that we went to the moon so that we
could show up Russia, that the United States was able to get to
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the moon before Russia got to the moon during the Cold War.
The thing about it, besides all the evidence, all the
imaginative reasons why it was faked, that really pushed me to
believe that the moon landing was real, was that we would have
done it just to show up the Russians.
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And the Russians reported that our moon landing was real.
Your honor, did we have colored television in 1969?
Miss Rachel, I was born in 1984.I can't tell you when we
actually had color television, Your Honor.
I know some of the shows that Nick and not for the old
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millennials that some were blackand white and some were color,
but I don't know the year. Your Honor, how did we
communicate the 1969 long distance?
Miss Rachel, I will tell you right now this court is under
the impression that the United States claimed they landed on
the moon to show up Russia during the Cold War.
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And Russia said, yeah, the United States did it.
If you can give me a reason to believe why Russia would lie, I
will side in your favor. They set it up to prove that we
had the technology, where in fact we did not have the
technology we didn't even have. Your Honor.
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With respect, with respect, yourHonor, we did not have color
television. We didn't even have cell phones.
We didn't have Bluetooth. We didn't have any of that
technology. But you're telling me that
people went up to the moon and they just talked to us from
Earth? Are you kidding me?
We didn't. We even.
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We probably barely had birth control at that time.
Well, we mean they could. Talk to them on live.
Control. Is anti.
Is anti Jesus first of? All on live television.
They had the technology. Give me a break.
Rachel, I need you to tell me why our at the time enemy would
confirm that we done bested themif it wasn't real.
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They researched the type of metal that was on that rocket
and what type of heat that it actually could withstand, and in
fact, it cannot withstand the temperature of the atmospheric
heat that it would have to go through.
In reality, that rocket would have disintegrated.
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I understand what you're saying.You're telling me everything,
but this court wants to hear. If you can tell me a logical
reason why our enemy, the whole purpose for why we said we
landed on the moon, would agree with it, I will find you in
favor. It's.
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Public. It's public control and
manipulation. So you're saying that our enemy
wasn't our enemy, but a Patsy for our goals?
They're all in it together. Can you prove it with any of
your research? That was a way to make money, to
have war, to have crisis. They're all in it together to
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cause chaos and to get so. You're saying that the United
States and Russia said that we will both benefit if our
countries are at war. So we need you to be on our side
and say that we did do it, but that wouldn't cause no conflict.
They'd be more of a conflict if Russia said hey, them in the US
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ain't telling the truth. They faked it.
They used one of them Hollywood directors to do it.
There was deeper meaning behind it, your Honor.
Miss Rachel, I'll give you one more chance if you can explain
to me why our enemy at the time,at the time, depending on when
you hear this podcast, why Russia would side with us at the
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beginning of the Cold War and acknowledge that the United
States of America, our God fearing selves, landed and
planted our flag on the moon. Why they'd agree with it when it
was incorrect, I will agree withyou.
Today, Your Honor, I don't understand the corruption of the
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high and mighty wealthy leaders of the world, but if you can
explain to me how a metal that cannot go through the heat of
the atmosphere made it to the moon and there was magic
technology that live streamed tothe Earth in 1969, be my guest,
Your honor, I rest my case. You can rest your case.
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Unfortunately you did not give me the information I wanted.
I feel like it's a misstep that 911 wasn't on this list if you
want to talk about a ship burning.
But in this case, this court finds that the moon landing was
legit. You know, the education in the
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South is inferior to the northern education.
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Our next case is Paul McCartney,died in 1966.
Go ahead with your opening statement.
Your Honor, Abbey Road wasn't just an album cover, it was a
crime scene in plain sight. The Barefoot Paul?
Clearly a corpse. The license plate that reads 28I
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F, as in he would have been 28 if he lived.
That's not subtle, that's Illuminati Morris code.
They said Paul died in 1966 and was replaced by Billy Shears,
which sounds like a guy who trims hedges and sings backup
but apparently also wins global fame.
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And if you play Revolution 9 backwards, you allegedly hear
Turn Me On Dead Man, which honestly sounds like half of
TikTok these days. But still Exhibit A.
Your Honor, hidden messages and song lyrics.
I buried Paul album cover symbolism.
Barefoot Paul equals corpse. The facial differences.
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Forget fillers, that's a whole new man.
Your honor. Call the Fab 4 what they are
now. The Beatles featuring guest
star, not Paul. The fall theory gaining traction
even in recent documentaries. Your Honor, I had enough here to
just bury this whole case. Miss Beck, can you offer me A
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cause of death? Yes, he was killed in a car
accident. Can you offer me A cause of
death that you can prove? No, I can't prove it, Your
Honor, but we all know that he died in a car accident.
Miss Beck, this court believes that you are the victim of the
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generational conspiracy. You're a bit older.
Are you familiar with the artistknown as Avril Lavigne?
Yes, I am, your honor. Are you familiar with the Avril
Lavigne conspiracy? I am, your honor.
And would you say the Avril Lavigne conspiracy is quite
similar to the Paul McCartney conspiracy?
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I would say no, it's a very different, very different
conspiracy because Avril Lavignewas either cloned or as a robot
now, whereas whereas Paul or Fall was actually recruited by
the queen herself. Because Billy Shears looks so
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much like Paul and she didn't want mass hysteria.
So they did a little bit of this, a little bit of that on
his face just to make it. You can tell, your honor, the
eyes are different colors, but he looks like him.
He looks close to him, but he isno Paul.
Miss Beck. What I'm hearing right now, it
sounds like a fan of early Battles music that didn't lock
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when they split up and Paul wenthis own way.
Your honor, people grieved and looked for signs that weren't
there, but they buried him in plain sight and handed us a
shovel made of vinyl. These weren't clues.
These were confessions wrapped in harmonies.
And Miss Beck, you listen to records backwards while on LSD
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is not evidence for this court. Let me just point out that Sir
Paul McCartney, whilst not a pure blood American, is is is a
big part of American zeitgeist if you will.
Because put the Paul McCartney era and The Beatles era stands
pretty strong. I think that you're not
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appreciating what a little bit of plastic surgery and a new
voice does to a musician. Yeah, but it was his entire
skull shape that changed, your honor.
What was he doing Pilates for his cheekbones?
Can you? Prove to me his skull shape is
differently. Sir Paul is still alive and last
I knew, no one's done any dad damn tests on his skull size.
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Your Honor, I just say pull up the Internet, the good old
Googles, and just take a look atthe old Paul McCartney and the
later aged Paul McCartney and you tell me yourself, Your
Honor, if you don't see that difference, I will rest my case.
First of all, despite my Southern accent, this court
recognized that Sir Paul has been to my hometown and he's a
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great man. That was fall, Your honor, That
was fall. Secondly, Miss Beck, I'm afraid
to tell you that Sir Paul not only did not die, but was able
to sustain a career as a solo artist despite split with The
Beatles. Now, maybe he had some plastic
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surgery. It happens.
But this court deems that Sir Paul McCartney is not only still
alive, but still alive and crushing it.
Very well. He's dismissed.
Y'all don't got me knocking overmy knickknacks and whatnot.
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Not the knickknacks. K6 Area 51 and the Roswell
incident. We can't have a conspiracy court
without addressing the Cornerstone case, Area 51.
Is it simply a testing site or the warehouse for
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extraterrestrial leftovers? Exhibit A In July 1947, a
rancher near Roswell, NM, found strange metallic debris unlike
anything he'd seen before. The US military claimed it was a
flying disc, but quickly reversed their story, saying it
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was just a weather balloon. Kind of sounds like things that
are going on today, wouldn't yousay, your honor?
Decades later, the Air Force said it was part of Project
Mogul, a secret program using high altitude balloons to spy on
Soviet nukes. Witnesses later described
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unburnable metal, strange symbols, and even small alien
bodies, though the government claimed they were just test
dummies from a different decade.Many believe the wreckage in
possibly alien tech was quietly moved to Area 51 for a study in
reverse engineering. The flip flop in stories and
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secrecy only fueled suspicions of massive cover up.
Exhibit B. In 1989, Bob Lazar came forward
claiming that he worked at a secret site near Area 51 called
S4. There he saw an alien spacecraft
and worked on reverse engineering their advanced
technology, including gravity propulsion systems.
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Lazar described 9 flying saucersstored underground and claimed
that the craft used a rare element called Element 1:15 to
power their engines. His story sparked huge public
interest but is controversial. Many question his credentials
and evidence. But despite scepticism, Lazar's
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testimony remains one of the most famous in Area 51 lore and
Exhibit C. For decades, the US government
denied Area 51 even existed, fueling mystery and conspiracy
theories. It wasn't until 2013 that the
CIA officially acknowledged Area51 and declassified documents.
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The site was revealed as a testing ground for spy planes
and classified aircraft, but secrecy remains tight.
The long denial only added to the suspicion about what really
goes on there. My final exhibit, The storm on
Area 51 where the Internet goes wild IN2019A viral Facebook
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event called Storm Area 51, TheyCan't Stop All of Us invited
people to raid the secret base. It started as a joke but quickly
gained millions of responses worldwide.
The event sparked real gatherings near Area 51 but
ended peacefully with no break insurance.
But it showed how Area 51 remains a powerful symbol in UFO
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culture and Internet memes. I rest my case.
Miss Rachel, you've been before this court before with nonsense
claims and conspiracy theories, and this court normally would
look at you and say you're wasting your time and more
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importantly, the court's time. However, according to Google,
the Pentagon and the US government in general maintains
an official stance that does notconfirm or acknowledge Bob
Lazar's claims regarding reverseengineering alien technology at
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Area 51. That said, this court is not in
a position to tell you you are wrong.
This court, therefore, must follow the United States of
America and the Pentagon and saywe don't know.
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Thank you, Your honor. And our final case project, MK
Ultra, and it never really endedallegedly.
Your Honor, if you think MK Ultra ended in the 70s, I've got
some subliminal messages to sellyou.
This wasn't just a bad idea withacid.
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The CIA was out here playing Inception decades before
DiCaprio spun atop, and now you want me to believe they just
closed the program and walked away?
Come on, LSD mind experiments triggered assassins, targeted
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individuals who swear their coffee maker is listening.
The only thing that ended was the paper trail.
My exhibits, your honor. Declassified documents proving
LSD mind experiments, connectionto infamous cases, Unabomber Sir
Han Sir Han alleged extensions into media programming and
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targeted individuals. Questions around mass shooters
and unexplained personality shifts.
Ever scrolled social media and suddenly wanted to buy a $400.00
water bottle after seeing it once?
That's not coincidence your honor.
That's MK Ultra 2 point O now with algorithms.
Miss Beck, this Court is part ofthe United States of American
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government, allowing you to exercise your constitutional
rights to bring things to trial.That Constitution is very clear
that the FBI deals with domesticconcerns and the CIA deals with
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concerns outside of the country.At this moment, unless you have
further evidence, this Court wants to dismiss this case
because the CIA does not do anything on American soil.
You're saying we're living in a society where people live stream
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themselves eating soap for likes?
That's not evolution, that's programming.
That's capitalism, Miss Beck. The line between paranoia and
prophecy is paper thin, Judge Peter.
Especially when the government redacts everything but the
title. I know you're saying, Oh well,
the CIA isn't here in America. I've just got an accent because
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of you. I heard it.
And if you want to mock this judge in this court, I can tell
you right now, Miss Beck, that will not benefit you in the
least. Judge Peter, I love your
optimism, but the CIA was a Boy Scout and MK Ultra was its
badge, and psychological mayhem earned right here at home.
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Again, the official stance of the United States government,
which this court is happy to be a part of, is that the FBI
handles internal matters within the country and the CIA handles
matters outside of the country. Anything you say that speaks to
the CIA when operations on American soil, this court is
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ready to dismiss. It did happen on US soil
experiments. Conspiracy.
Experiments took place in New York, San Francisco, Montreal,
Canada and dozens of U.S. hospitals, prisons and.
Universities because, Miss Beck,just because you read a
Wikipedia article and read the testimony of dozens of United
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States of America citizens that were brutalized by these
projects, the position of this court is that it did not happen.
Your honor, the CIA set up safe houses in San Francisco and New
York. They hired prostitutes to lure
men, dosed them with LSD withoutconsent, and watched behind one
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way mirrors. Not exactly a foreign unfair
unless the foreigner was on acid.
Again, Miss Beck, whether or notthis totally did happen, the
position of this court is that the CIA only does operations
outside of the jurisdiction of this their country.
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Then please tell me why in 1977,Senator Ted Kennedy said the
deputy director of the CIA revealed that over 30
universities and institutions were involved in extensive
testing and experimentation program on unwitting U.S.
citizens. Quote.
UN quote. Because 10 Kennedy had just
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gotten drunk, murdered somebody,and wanted to shift the blame.
I don't know if that's actually true, if the years makes sense,
but I know he did it. And because he's a candidate, he
got away with it because he's a filthy Democrat.
But what I'm saying is that thisUnited States of America court
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followed the Constitution and again, for the third time, the
FBI handles things on the UnitedStates soil.
The CIA has no jurisdiction to complete operations here, Your
Honor. Operations abroad.
If the CIA never operated on US soil, then who was handing out
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LSD lace cocktails in San Francisco brothels like rave
Flyers at a Grateful Dead show? And more importantly, why did
the government have to form a Senate committee to stop?
It my paycheck is signed by the federal government.
Your Honor, I think you might becontrolled opposition.
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The word you're looking for is bought, and whether or not
that's true, this court finds your allegations in contempt and
fines for the defendant, which is the United States government.
You are wrong, Miss Beck. Regardless of the mounting
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evidence that you have, this court is dismissed.
Before we adjourn, Judge Peter, you've survived the weird, now
it's time to face the rapid fire.
No overthinking, just guts. What's 1 conspiracy theory you
secretly think might be true? Oh, none of this is real.
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This is all just a simulation. Flat Earth and five words or
less. There's a lot of dumb people I
don't know. That's 5 words but the the the
dad Damn earth is is round. Y'all flat earthers are dumb.
Do you trust Google Maps? 100%.
If time travel was real, what's the first event you'd go mess
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with? I feel like I'd want to kill
Hitler, but then Deadpool did that and it was up having him
kill a baby. How many pigeons are too many
pigeons? Ben, can I tell you, I live in
the suburbs and there's pigeons on my roof and I just bought a
dad, they have a new roof. So any pages on my roof in
suburbia kinda are too many daggone pigeons.
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Would you rather be abducted by aliens or stuck in Denver
Airport overnight? It depends if I'm the type that
the aliens would want to abduct and if they're traditional
aliens. If you woke up in 1969 tomorrow,
would you believe the moon landing is real?
The moon lane is real, the Russians are bad, and I would
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have a lot of the same thought that people in 1969 had that I
don't agree with today in 2025. You passed barely.
Thank goodness. That's a wrap on conspiracy
court. Huge thanks to our skeptical but
shockingly fair Judge Peter, andof course, my partner in theory,
Rachel. To our listeners, what did you
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think? Are birds secretly drones?
Did Paul croon his last in 1966?And more importantly, which side
are you on? Hit us up on social media with
your verdicts and don't forget to subscribe, rate and review
us. If you enjoyed this wild ride.
I know we did. Until next time, question
everything and don't trust the pigeons.
This is to the Spirit signing off to.
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