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June 7, 2020 69 mins

Recorded on June 1st, 2020 (the day Washington D.C. police threw tear gas at protesters to clear the way for the President's photo op), Joel and Erin sit down with a first-ever repeat visit with their first-ever guest, friend and actor LaMont Ridgell. 

Topics include: false claims of Black Lives Matter solidarity from theatre companies; the possibility of Bay Area "woke"-ness in a post-pandemic and protest world; the dangers of white guilt; LaMont's parents' advice to theatre companies; the varying degrees of hope; and the long lost feeling of hugs.

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