Laughs and Lessons: Navigating the World of Film

This episode dives into the realities of balancing a corporate job with creative pursuits. Justin and Steven share personal insights and experiences that highlight the challenges and humor of navigating the film industry while maintaining personal relationships.

• Discussing the adjustment from intense hustling to a more stable work structure 
• Insights into the creative process on film sets and editing processes 
• The necessity of collaboration in film projects and personal content creation 
• Highlighting personal relationships and navigating those in a creative space 
• Examining what motivates them to keep pursuing their craft amid challenges 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Alright, we're back with another episode of Two for
the Culture.
I'm Justin Devante, I'm StevenWright.
Yeah, this is another episode,man, how you feeling?

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I feel good.
I feel good.
How was your week?

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Man, my week was good .
Every week is starting to be.
Now that I got like aquote-unquote real job that's
corporate, every week starts tofeel like the same.
Yeah.
But no, it's cool because I'mstill in training and you know,
I got my first actual paycheck.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I had a half a paycheck last week oh, you, just
, oh, you just got it uh, friday, so oh, that was quick, but
yeah, I mean time's flying by,because what is this?

Speaker 1 (00:41):
our fourth, fifth episode.
Fifth episode yeah right.
Yeah, yeah.
So we've been in it over amonth now and it don't really
even feel like that.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, I think this is number five, damn.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah, and it still feels extremely new.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, it's halfway to ten.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, we're still getting our bearings, but my
week's been good Starting to nothaving to kind of overwork so I
can kind of expand and do alittle bit more and just get a
little bit more my lifeorganized Like OK, all right Now
.
So now that I have a dailyschedule, let's after work what
does that look like?
And just have just kind of aroutine.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Have you been like chilling, like taking time for
yourself?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Um, yeah, I think so.
Yeah, because I don't feel theneed to work as hard as I've
been in the past and it's justscrambling because my income it
was as hard as I worked, type ofthing.
Yeah.
Yeah, so you know, and ofcourse it lived and died by me.
So you know, it was never justhey.

(01:40):
If the time was where I had togo and make money, that could
have been like any time.
You know what I?
mean yeah, instead of.
And then, not only that, when Iwas working with my mentor, it
was that, you know, I gave him.
I was like just hit me up at 11pm, yeah, yeah, yeah and that.
So I wouldn't know what I wasgetting you know with, not even
with the, not even within 12hours, you know.

(02:02):
So yeah it's, it's never um.
My next day was never guaranteeda set thing I can hope for it,
yeah, yeah, and try to planaround it, but it was never that
, but uh.
But how about you?
How's your?

Speaker 2 (02:16):
week.
Uh, my week was good, um yeah,a lot of learning, a lot of, uh,
new hats.
I'm just trying to not trying,but I'm, I'm developing a
pathway for me to have a placein nashville.
A place is in, like my place innashville.
So you know, in la, I was a, aneditor for a company and you

(02:40):
know I I had the social mediathing going on and I was going
to events and stuff like that.
So I'm just trying to figure outmy place here.
So every day I feel like I haveto wake up and be somebody new
for another interview, but it'sbeen going well.
I'm tired.
Yeah, I've been editing, me andRob.

(03:02):
We basically finished the movielast night.
So that was dope.
I've been editing Me and Rob.
We basically finished the movielast night.
That was dope.
Knowing Rob, he'll bepremiering it in Atlanta,
probably in a month or next week.
Knowing him, it's been a prettybusy week for sure.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
When does the trailer come out?
You got to clip that up and doall that too, right.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Basically we edited the whole movie together now and
then after that that's when theaudio comes in.
So they clean up the audio andthen make the the sound, you
know, just sound good.
And then after that that's whenthe color grading comes, so
that's when the it.
Uh, somebody puts likebasically to make the colors of

(03:45):
the film pop and all that andthen after that.
That's when we'll go to thatphase.
Okay, okay, but the movie itselfis like clipped up.
I gotta watch it again tonight.
Maybe something will change,but like most of it is now done
now.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh, okay, it's the reason, um why I asked that?
Because you said it's going tobe a month from now, so I was
like, what you just said soundslike it requires a lot of work
well, a month is in, you have tobook the place.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
You know I'm saying you have to.
You have to book the place inadvance, the screen in advance,
and then you know you got tobuild the hype for it and then,
uh, then everybody comes out.
So and you know he does it towhere it's like a red carpet, a
step and repeat and like it'ssponsored and all that type of
stuff.
So it's a usually like a bigthing, okay so how?

Speaker 1 (04:35):
because I know he did a couple movies before right
and how did I mean for him tokeep on doing it?
I guess the turnout andeverything everything.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, it's a really good turnout.
He just last year for himselfhe just wanted to film a whole
bunch of movies and kind of puthis place, put his name stamped,
like in the Tubi world.
So he's just like droppingmovies back to back to back to
back.
So this movie is a part of thatbulk.

(05:04):
So that's just mainly what he'sjust trying to, just trying to
build his name up in that worldjust as a director.
And, um, yeah, so I'm just likehis.
He always come to me for likevisual effects.
I he'll just, he'll just beasking me for random stuff.
This is why I'm glad I don't dovisual effects for people for
real, because I'll do it for him, like my homies and all this

(05:25):
stuff.
But being hired somewhere andsomebody says, hey, can you make
this alien twerk on the moon,then blow it up, and then do
this, this and this and this, Idon't know how the hell I'm
doing it, but for some reasonI'm doing very well at
everything he asks me to do.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
So it's fun.
It's fun.
It's fun, yeah, that's.
That's interesting.
As you say, like back in thecollege days you you'll watch a
like sports center or somethingand you'll be like I know how
they did that effect.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, no, I would yeah, yeah, yeah.
It'll be like packaged to where, you know, if you're trying to
get into visual effects there,there's always like a certain
amount of people online withlike the same type of tutorials
and then, if I see it, I'm likebro, I know where they got that
from so I got you yeah yeah, soyou know this is, it's a cool

(06:14):
thing okay, yeah, so is he.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
So is he trying to?
I mean, I guess it sounds likea stupid question.
I'm gonna ask anyway is hetrying to make money from the
film?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, so Tubi is kind of like YouTube in a way.
Tubi is kind of like YouTube ina way of ads, like ad revenue.
So you know how Netflix is now.
No, I don't know how Netflix isoh, okay, Well, yeah, so
Netflix now if you never updatedyour account, if you go to
Netflix now and watch the movie?

Speaker 1 (06:42):
it's got ads on it Right.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
So that's the same thing with Tubi.
So that's how a lot of peoplemake money on YouTube is from ad
revenue.
All the ad breaks.
So that's the same thing withTubi.
Oh, okay, I got you.
Yeah, and you can make moneyrevenue streams off of that.
So that's another reason whyhe's trying to build it up, just

(07:05):
kind of like if you make aYouTube page and then you keep
dropping every single week andevery week, like after a year,
you're going to have some typeof momentum.
Same thing on Tubi, so moneywill come.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
So there's like a Tubi page.
You know, I don't have Tubi, orI've never watched it Tubi.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I mean, it's kind of just set up kind of like.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Netflix Okay, but you can search his name, type of
thing.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, you search his name and then it'll come up.
I haven't really seen, Ihaven't really logged into Tubi
actually, but yeah, from what Iknow of it, it's very much like
a Netflix or a Hulu or whatever.
It's got all of the top,whatever you know, lined up and
then you just type in.

(07:53):
I guess like his name RobbieWorld or Robert or some shit.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
And how does he find the actors?
Is it like he touches socialmedia or it's a mix.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Um, you know some sometimes it's friends.
Most times for the startupphase of everything it's friends
.
Now it's starting to kind ofexpand out of that to paid
actors.
Um, yeah, so that's, that'smainly what it is so, just like
starting off, just kind of likeanything else, um, it's just

(08:26):
with your homies at first, andthen the second movie is like
with your homies, but then thispaid actor, then the third movie
is half and half, and then sothat's.
That's really just like theroute he's trying to go no, he's
definitely a hustler.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I I respect it a lot because he's came a long way
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, um,because it reminds me of keep in
mind I don't know anything butcountry wayne when he did that
shannon sharp interview and gaveeverybody the formula how to do
it yeah yeah, so it's so.
Hearing how much he makes on it, it was like oh, you know what

(09:01):
I?
Mean yeah, yeah, and howrobbie's building up.
It seems like a similar type offormula, like a similar no, I'm
sure it's completely different,because country rain doesn't do
actual movies.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
I don't think right, uh, now he's starting to oh,
okay uh-huh, but no, hedefinitely shit.
Country rain helped me out a lotoff of that one interview,
literally.
Um, last year kat williamsdropped.
Last year Cat Williams dropped,the Cat Williams interview
dropped.
And then right after that WasCountry Wayne and he gave the
formula and I swear to God I waslike Alright, and then I did

(09:38):
the same thing he did, or whathe said.
He said drop three times a day,drop every day, a couple months
, something going to happen.
And I swear it took maybe likefour weeks or maybe a month.
And then I don't know if youever saw, but I had a video of
me and Ice Spice, yeah, and thatshit went crazy.
And then I had gained like 100,200,000.

(10:00):
I think last year alone Istarted off with maybe 200,000
followers or something like that, on Instagram, zero on Facebook
, and now on Facebook I have200-something thousand and then
on Instagram it's almost 600,000.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
So that formula definitely helped me out a lot,
but it seems like it's still adifficult one to do, right.
You know everybody would bedoing it right oh no, absolutely
.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, we're talking about like three videos a day
and mine are kind of quick, somine are like 15 seconds.
Uh, his was three minutes, sothat's where you can get the ad
breaks and so that's how you getmost of the money.
And he literally just films iton the camera like it's nothing
too fancy.
He just films it on the cameraand then we're gonna act like

(10:49):
we're gonna do this skit forlike three minutes and he films
a whole bunch of them in a day.
I think he said like 14 hourshoot days or something like
that, and then, uh, it's really,he's not really editing that
much.
I would assume it's not a lotof edit, it's not like it cuts,
so it's just like that threeminutes we did All right, cool,

(11:10):
we just schedule it and weupload it.
So his Formula it works best forhim and a lot of other people
Mine.
It just needs like a little bitmore tweaks to it.
I really should just like likea little bit more tweaks to it.
Well, I really should just likeuh, somehow expand out of that

(11:32):
I just haven't figured that outyet like what I would do to
expand, I think, like my um, uh,uh, it's kind of like a gift
and a curse of wanting to bedifferent, because, you know,
it's harder, like it's like it'scool when I'm walking around
somebody's like, oh bro, Ireally respect your art and all
this, but it's like it'sactually harder, like to do that
and try to keep up with it.
So, um, but either way, hedefinitely he spilled the

(11:55):
formula and I definitely havemuch respect for him for that,
because if he helped me out, I'mpretty sure he helped out
plenty of people yeah, from thatinterview, because I mean you,
you was in the world of skitsfor a very long time.
That's how you started off yeah,I started off like yeah,
because you you really justtransitioned to quick bite stuff
during instagram phase.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, after Ibecame racial silly, yeah that's

(12:18):
when I yeah really switched.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
All of that true so it's not like you know, it's not
, it's that's just how youstarted, so it's not really new
to you.
It's just getting you back intothat mind mode.
But because you've been doing,you know the quick bites for so
long no, I actually should.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
I actually do need to do that.
Actually collaborating withpeople does usually help.
Um, it's just so easy to not toso it ain't nobody saying hey
brother, what if I say this orwhat is?

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I'm like no brother, let's like do what I said, yeah
yeah, or you can do it all andsee how it clips up and comes
together and make a decisionyeah, usually majority rules,
yeah, yeah yeah, no, I meananytime I really collaborated
with anyone, it it wasn't a badthing.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
It never was a bad thing.
I guess it's just way more of ahassle like way more of a house
.
It's just literally like doingwork by yourself versus working
a group and like this isespecially it's your subject,
that that you know so well yeahso it's not just like if we were
all doing a skit, then cool,but like if you hopping in the

(13:33):
green screen world, that's myworld, yeah.
So like, not not that I'm likeall hell me, but like bruh, like
you putting more work on me,you think this is too funny, but
the joke, you ain't editing it,so you don't know that like,
the timing of this isn't like askit, it's like a movie, it's
not the same thing.
So sometimes it's hard to um,you know, like kind of break the

(13:58):
ice with that, and then it justgets awkward a little bit
sometimes yeah, I thinkeverybody I mean including
yourself has an ego attached toit.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah everybody wants to do it their
way.
Of course that's just naturally.
But I mean, that's what a teamis you gotta be.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
You gotta be like-minded in the goal itself
that's why I only collaboratewith people I know for real like
can't.
Yeah, rob, that's probably just, that's the cap yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
So I think it should be something like or was the?
Cap, like what I see and whatyou're probably familiar with is
they come into your world, youcome into theirs and like, hey,
this is how I want to do it inmy world.
Then I could come over to yourworld and you show me how you
want me to do.
Yeah, and it could be that.
On that, yeah, and I'll putinput as I see fit, just to see

(14:51):
how it works.
You can take it or you can't.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
I see that, yeah, yeah but.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
I think it's just as you know.
Of course, I don't know theseguys and I met so few of them,
but just communicating.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, yeah.
No, I believe in it.
I think I do have I gotta getrid of the?
I don't know.
I feel like I have a brand too,so sometimes the brands don't
just like match up.
Like, have you ever worked withpeople where, like them working
with you could like kind ofhelp you out, but you helping

(15:25):
them out is kind of like the,the?
There's a difference in brands.
So it's like I'm not reallytrying to go into your world for
real.
I mean I, I, I feel you ahundred percent, but it's not
like they like your audience togo like I ain't messing with
steve no, I'm not saying I'mjust literally, like naturally

(15:45):
high, for example there weretimes where somebody would come
up to me, where I used to stayin atlanta and shout out to
atlanta, shout out to the wholeculture of atlanta but this is
the culture of atlanta.
So like they'll come up to meand be like bro, like I don't
know how you be doing that stuff, and I'll collaborate with them
and put them in my video.
And then now that's exactlywhat you're saying.

(16:08):
Now it's their turn and now Igotta like sit in this room with
a whole bunch of girls shakingtheir ass.
I got a girlfriend at the time.
Now my life is harder.
It's just like bro.
I'd rather just hop in a scenewith Beyonce and just call it a
day.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, I mean you're talking about comfort zone.
It's like hey.
But I'm just saying yeah yeah,I wouldn't expect you to go to
the gay club and get twerked onby men.
Yeah, that's there's anuncomfortable zone to where,
yeah, like there's a level to it.
Yeah for sure, yeah, you can.
You can say no, you don't haveto do it just because they did
your video it's awkward, it'slike, oh this, like that's what

(16:48):
I'm saying, it's just it.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Just.
I'll open it back up to that,but that that's a point they had
got to where I was like, bro,I'm better off just doing this,
and I just made it a habit ofdoing so.
To where I just made it a habitof not collaborating with
anybody I feel, like it.
I feel like it hurt me in a way.
I feel like it hurt me in a wayof growth for sure.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah yeah, I, I just I how I visualize it and I'm I'm
naive because it's not my world.
But, um, it's like you have apersonal trainer and it's it's
just a collaboration of havingsomebody else do what you do,
and it's iron sharpens iron andit motivates you to get going,

(17:30):
because motivating yourself, uh,when you ain't in do or die
mode, is extremely tough foranybody.
Yeah.
And that's why typically thechildren of CEOs don't really do
that well in life.
They just live off of theirparents or the legacy's name.
And that's just how it goes,because they don't have any

(17:53):
motivation to succeed.
Some some do, some, you know,get the pressure lit under them
by their parents like bro, yougotta do better, you know, and
but others, most of them, justkind of eat out their name and
don't know how to truly hustlefor real yeah so I could see
that I would rather.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I think that's the thing I think I was.
I was um some people I couldhave collaborated with.
That would elevate me mentallythat I I should have been
looking more for versus justlike proximity and I can't even
speak for myself when I first Istart.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
I first started my own business through kovic and I
was hustling and I was hungryfor it and the money showed.
Now it's like, yeah, I'll putin bids that I know, I like, you
know, like, like, I like thisone and I'm gonna over bid on it
and so I can make more.
But now there's more competitionon the table and I need to
expand and then I'm like bruh,now I gotta submit, I gotta do a

(18:55):
bunch of research for this, howthis works, and then just start
.
You know I'm amping up mysupply and sending out more
information.
That takes a lot more time,yeah, but I used to do it back
then and you know, make 75 a bit.
Then it graduated to makingmore and I'm like damn, my
hustle has completely diminished, yeah.
So I mean, I say that and I'mspeaking even to myself in that-

(19:18):
yeah, that does happen.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I have noticed that about myself as well.
Like, yeah, I'll definitelyhave a little spurts, not even
just spurts, but just uh,comparing times of me being in
la versus when I was trying toget out of memphis, it was a
little different, like I was upday and night coffee, coffee,

(19:41):
coffee, coffee, green screen,green screen, green screen, like
all day, and that's that's.
I wasn't doing 15 seconds, Iwas doing like over a minute
videos, multiple differentcamera clips and all this type
of shit, just to to makesomething to get out, or that.
That that fire, that likehunger, like it wasn't, that I

(20:04):
wanted it to happen, like itneeded to happen, like so, uh,
yeah, there is definitely adifference.
Um, and I do try to remindmyself, even after this
conversation, I'm definitelygoing to remind myself of, like,
what that was, what that feltlike, because that that is the
difference between good andgreat for real no, but I find

(20:25):
that world interesting.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
I don't, you know, I don't know if I could ever be in
that for real.
Yeah, not in that aspect.
Yeah, yeah, just yeah.
So it's just always kind offascinating how people move and
how money comes from it, andit's like a household name on
social media.
Yeah, but it's not the same ascelebrity, because you don't

(20:47):
have those same celebritydollars.
So you live a much normal life.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, yeah unless you're like the country rains
are the one percenters of ityeah, it can literally be like I
said, like I've seen is highsand lows of it, so like it could
literally be not a cent or adollar for months or even longer
than that, and then it can beone check that's for the entire

(21:15):
year.
Just hit your account.
So like that, you know it's,it's, it's up and down, so it
can literally be any way, whichis why it's kind of it's kind of
like a drug.
It's like you, you taste theblood, like like how the sharks
are like on finding nemo.
Really, after you taste theblood, like like how the sharks
are like on finding nemo really,after you taste the blood, bro,
it's like I can't get out ofthis.

(21:37):
Oh for real, yeah, like what,the man after man, after the
biggest check, I got what?
And I and you, I was in la, solike I'm around all these people
who really getting money and itshows, and it's like it's a
different world, bro, and itcould easily be a video away,

(21:59):
one video.
Oh okay, you know the hot toolgirl.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Pretty sure her whole life changed yeah, but that was
, she could have nevercalculated that well, I know,
but I'm just saying that thatwas a random thing, but all
right, um country way, it'sanybody, my anybody, uh.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Uh, what's his name?
Um dc young fly.
You remember when he firststarted?

Speaker 1 (22:19):
when he was standing on walmart.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Standing on walmart yeah, it was just like a couple
videos and it just made so muchmotion that, like all the other
stuff just made sense.
And then that's when youcapitalize.
Uh, you know, one of the mainpeople that I've seen capitalize
the most is druski.
Um, this is it's like a plus,like in terms of capitalization

(22:43):
off of the whole and dc on flyuh, I'm sure there's a lot of
them that capitalize like eventhe just hilarious of the world
yeah, no, I mean, I've seen it.
I'm just saying like, like thestrategic move, like the perfect
next move, every single time toelevate and all that, that's

(23:04):
super important.
I've seen a lot of people,including myself, that'll be in
certain certain um certainmoments or aspects, and then the
next move is just so crucial.
I've seen people like on wildand out, then get kicked off,
then you don't hear from themanymore.
I've seen people on bt seeingpeople that rose to being in

(23:26):
movies and all of a sudden youdon't see them anymore.
They probably can't even callanybody to be in the movie right
now.
But yeah, it's all important,very, very important.
Every move has to be your bestmove.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
It's like gambling.
There's failure along the way,though.
That's it.
There's failure along the way.
Yeah, like I disagree with.
Every move has to be your bestmove.
Your next move has to be I justlike you're going to misstep,
you're going to make baddecisions well, of course, well,
yeah, yeah, yeah, of course,yeah so I mean it's, I think

(24:03):
it's just the, the hustle andthe want and the love and the
drive of it all that's very,very true.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
That is.
That is very, very true.
I mean, I feel like we're sortof saying the same thing,
because I feel like what I'msaying is a result of what you
just said.
Yeah, right, yeah so it couldbe.
It could be a bad move, butyour hustle so good that, like
something else probablyoutweighed that shit, just
because of the opportunity fromthe work that you just put in.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Right, and I'll be surprised if Robbie didn't love
this shit.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
You know what I mean, oh.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Like he got to love it.
You know what I mean Drewskihas to love it.
Mr Beast, he's one of thoseones Like, if you saw his Joe
Rogan interview and how much heloved YouTube, mm-hmm, like,
it's a sensation you can't evendescribe how insane you have to

(24:58):
be, yeah of uh one.
He's just talking about how theydid their thumbnails and how he
he did it his and he looked inthe frames per second.
You know it's like I don't knowwhat you're discussing, but I
can tell that you have have aninsane level of passion for what
you do.
Yeah.

(25:18):
Yeah, so I have a competitivenature and I want to be the best
, but I don't think there'sinsane love or passion in
anything.
You know what I mean.
I do For my career.
I want to make you know beproud of my peers.
I want you know my what is theword?
I'm looking for the peopleabove me.

(25:40):
I want to do a good job foreverybody you know, around the
circle.
Of course, provide for myself,but it's never a passion, you
know what I mean.
Like I got to do this, you knowit's been every waking moment
thinking about this.
When I go to sleep it's like,yeah, I'll think about it and I
and I'll think about the thingsI do wrong and I'll try to, you
know, do better each and everytime.

(26:01):
But it's not an insatiablepassion to do anything.
But if you, yeah, I, I'll besurprised if drew, ski and all
of them didn't have aninsatiable passion.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Oh no, absolutely Absolutely.
It's definitely a thing I don'teven it's something with.
I feel like with creatives,like creative people Maybe.
Well, just specifically that Ican completely relate to.
If I don't touch anything, if Idon't come out with something or
even draw on a piece of paper,like if nothing creative comes

(26:36):
out of me, I feel like I'm dying, like I I've felt that so many
times, so I there has to beother people that feel like that
to where I can't get.
I can't get, I can't get awayfrom social media.
Like if if social media ormovies and all this just goes
away, like I don't know what Iwould do with myself.
Like having a job and all this,this is cool, but it's cool

(26:59):
because I can buy certain thingsand put myself in certain
positions and like provide forfamily, but it's not.
Like it doesn't fulfill my soulat all.
Like literally dropping a videoand I think that shit funny and
I laugh.
That does so much for me.
Like yeah, so that I candefinitely resonate with people,

(27:21):
which is probably why I'm stillin this shit, like there's
definitely been a while.
I could have quit a billiontimes by now.
So, yeah, that I I don't know.
I feel like everybody has apassion of something.
Maybe yours is not necessarilylike the job, maybe it's like
being a good human, or like yeah, yeah, no, yeah, there's things
that I love and care about, butI'm saying insatiable passion.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
You know, I love the sense of community and building
around it and I just want, justwant, to really see everybody do
well.
That's why I extend over andbeyond for others, yeah, yeah,
and I I do a lot better ofputting me first in a lot of
aspects, but I think that's, youknow, it just really starts

(28:05):
religion, and you know I'm aservant to god so yeah, yeah, so
and then I have to give back towhat people give back to me.
So, yeah, so I have to.
You know, I feel and a duty tomake sure my grandmother is
taken care of.
Yeah, because she sacrificed somuch.
You know, coming from a familyof sharecroppers, do you know

(28:25):
the sharecroppers?

Speaker 2 (28:27):
yeah like.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
So they rented.
They rented land from the ownerand but nonetheless picture
extremely high interest rate towhere you can just pay enough to
feed your family and you giveyour crops away to the land
owner oh yeah yeah, so that'stimes where she went hungry,
yeah, yeah.
And then I remember you'restill working hard as hell I

(28:52):
mean well, you're talking aboutas a kid, so it's a little bit
different I'm just talking aboutthe aspect of her childhood oh,
yeah, yeah not having shoes youknow, living in mississippi,
you know, born in 1948, so nothaving shoes being hungry.
I remember one time, you know,because I I'm disgusted by beans
.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
So yeah, look, I was telling my granny I was like I'd
rather die than eat time youknow, because I I'm disgusted by
beans.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
So I was like look, I was telling my granny I was
like I'd rather die than eatbeans.
You know you're like no, shelike you eat beans if you hungry
enough.
And then I was like nah, granny, they just too disgusted.
She's like honey, you will eatbeans.
Like the way she was saying it Iknew she was coming from like
remembering how hungry she usedto be, and then she was like you

(29:35):
know, I used to, you know, begfor food and she was like the
kids were the nicest you know interms of like throwing her
bread.
When they saw that she washungry and begged for food.
Yeah, yeah, so I was like dangI can't you know?
I mean regardless of how timestuff he's like I gotta make
sure that you're taken care ofbecause she, she does a lot

(29:57):
still for people and if I toldyou all the stories it'll be
insane.
And I was like granny, youstill can't be stressing out
over you know, yourgrandchildren actions, your
children's actions you know whatI mean.
You gotta rest at some point,yeah, yeah so that's how I am
about her in general, because Ialready told you, like I don't
you know about the things how Ifeel, but nonetheless, uh, so

(30:19):
that, so that's kind of reallywhat I do, do it for yeah.
It's like I'll wake up Justfigure out how I'm gonna make my
granny's the best day ever.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
You know she can chill today, she can wait,
she'll be alright.
Football's on, yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
That's too funny.
I'll check on her later.
That's too funny.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
It still sounds like Sort of a passion.
A little bit of passion.
What do we have today actually?

Speaker 1 (30:51):
no idea like.
That's why I was like we'rejust chilling and talking
clearly, we're just chilling andtalking uh, we're doing good,
uh.
The one thing I do remember offthe top of my head was the
vladimir putin or vladimirzelensky oh, his name's vladimir
too.
Yeah, is it a whole differentcountry uh what ukraine and
russia you uh, ukraine was apart of Russia.

(31:13):
It was the Soviet Union.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Oh, okay, okay, okay, so it was under that umbrella.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just felt like if I went toMexico and it was a dude named
Brandon, yeah, yeah, yeah, it'slike where you from.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, but I mean it came from somewhere, but a lot
of names, like even from Americaor whatever.
It was like oh, that's actuallyprevalent.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Exactly yeahyeah, like Michelangelo, I'm
trying to think of an Italianname that's actually a black
name, like Carlos is a Spanishname, but you know a?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
lot of Carlos's.
I know a Carlos from highschool.
Yeah, I do, yeah, exactly yeahyeah, yeah, I didn't even put
that.
It sounds so mexican.
How'd you say that?

Speaker 1 (32:02):
yeah so uh, but yeah so uh.
Vladimir zielinski and met withTrump and JD Vance.
Did you see that video?

Speaker 2 (32:12):
I saw the video.
Why do they keep getting on himfor his attire?
Because he came here before andI saw a photo of him and I
think Biden or Barack one ofthem and he's had the same stuff
on, so it seems like that'swhat they wear.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
It was saying you have no respect.
That's just like saying thatyou come into um I.
The only reference I can reallygive is you come into a job
interview like with sweatpantsand dragon dragon pants on.
It's like, bro, you came hereto ask for money and you can't,
you know, show up here properly.
That's kind of what they wereon.
And so the reason why theykilling, like they're treating

(32:53):
him as if he's the bad guy, thereason why is because they a lot
of people feel like he's, he'sjust leeching off the government
so I'm gonna speak to how Ifeel.
how about that?
So, um, I feel, publicly, doyou want to show them who's the

(33:14):
boss number one?
That's one thing, and I thinkit was an element of that.
Show them who's in power andwho's making decisions and who
actually controls what happens.
I was like, okay, I canunderstand that, but the other
part is that a lot of these guys, a lot of this money that we're
sending not all of it and Idon't want to say like it's most

(33:34):
of it, but a lot of it goesinto, um, ukrainian, uh
oligarchs pockets like zielinskiis making a lot of millions off
of just aid in general.
So some, a lot of it does fundthe soldiers, but a lot of them
are keeping percentages on topof that to fund their own

(33:57):
lifestyle oh yeah yeah, yeah.
So yeah, to think that zielinskiis just making the bare minimum
is not the case.
Yeah, they're.
Um, ukraine was a corruptcountry before the war started.
Yeah, so a lot of these people.
So they had to do a lot ofthings to try to do their best

(34:17):
to make it uncorrupt, but it'sstill people in power that are
corrupt from the beginning.
Yeah, so a lot of them haveincentive for this war to go on
because they're very rich.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Okay, okay, wait a minute.
So, oh, so they can keepgetting aid and keep their
lifestyle billions.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
And then they will picture getting 30 billion and
you keep in 100 million you know, of that 30, like, yeah, yeah,
that 100.
The troops would need 100million, but they, they ain
going to truly miss it becausethey're going to get the bare
minimum of what they need forreal.
Yeah, so that's how I look atit.
Now the conspiracy theoristswill look at it as Zelensky is a

(35:03):
paid actor.
Ukraine was, uh, had their owndemocratic elected official
official and, um, it was what doyou call?
It was like a cool attempt andknocked him out of power and

(35:23):
sent him to russia.
If he was asking the americanofficial, it would say that the
elected to get him office he wasactually, it was corrupt and he
didn't get the necessary votes.
But then came Zelensky.

(35:44):
If I'm making sense, please askquestions but Zelensky came in
his place, came in his place andpeople think that was a back US
attempt coup to knock the guyout of power who was pro-Russia
and put in somebody who waspro-American and pro-NATO, and
that was then Zelensky, whoactually is legitimately was a

(36:04):
known paid actor.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Like in movies, in movies.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
No like so the conspiracy.
They have a point.
So he actually acted as asitting president in a TV show.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
What, yes, was he sitting the same, like in the
video?

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I don't know, I don't know all that.
And then he was like an actorslash comedian type of thing to
where he did like a re-editionof single ladies video.
Yes, what?
Yeah, exactly for sure yeah, sohe had an actor career, so some
people could say like similarto arnold schwarzenegger yeah,

(36:46):
that's the first person I wasthinking about.
Ronald reagan was an actor butyeah so there's a lot of actors
that have been in high, uh,appointed official positions,
but, um, then he's one of them.
But if you, if, when it allcomes together, you seen him
have this army fatigue that hewears.
It's like, bruh, you ain'tfighting in the military, why

(37:08):
are you wearing army fatigue?
yeah master truly wear a suit,so he'll.
He'll come on that vibe andthat's just a similar vibe he
was on, was just wearing, youknow, trying to.
I don't know, I can't speak forhim, but that's just kind of
what he's on.
He wears a lot of Army fatigue.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
That was Army fatigue .

Speaker 1 (37:24):
No, no, I'm just saying in general, but they have
like like sweats and thingslike that.
So that's just the image hetries to give off.
Oh, okay, yeah.
So do I think that situationreminded me of.
I can't remember.
I don't want to say the namebecause I'm going to know I'm
wrong, but I'm saying I'm wrong,but this did happen.

(37:49):
I just can't remember thecountries.
I know Saudi Arabia, and Ithink it was the acting
president, or whatever you callthe, the head official in Jordan
, that man to show the people inpower.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Slap that man on live TV yes, yes, I saw somebody
slap somebody on yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
So when that's just kind of showing hey, I actually
run this and that's kind of whatTrump and JD did they just came
in.
Like you know he's like youdon't know our country.
You'll feel it one day.
You will feel it like hell dog,what you trying to say about
America and then.
So it was hilarious.

(38:29):
I didn't feel bad for him.
Oh, uh-huh.
Yeah, because I think they arecorrupt and they are siphoning a
lot of money.
But at the same time, there's away that you conduct things.
And also, if you want to getback your money and we're
talking about getting back themoney that we spent from where

(38:51):
earth minerals you do have towork with him yeah yeah, yeah.
So it's best to try to have areasonable relation and not
relationship, and not embarrassthe guy because you do have to
work with him in in order to getthe money back.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Otherwise you're saying we're gonna take it and
then that's a whole nother warand that's that's unnecessary
you think that that's what hewas saying, that zelinski was
saying like we're gonna take itif you don't give it to me no,
zelinski was saying um you, Ithink it was just a thing of
saying, hey, you're capable ofbeing here one day too.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
You know, you may potentially be in my shoes one
day, like you know.
I mean, he I think he was justkind of using that kind of like
that's a way to speak.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
But he doesn't speak proper english and it's all.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, or he english is not his first language, right
?
So he like you'll be, you know.
And then like what, what do you?
If you took him for what heliterally meant, then it'll
sound off, but it just soundedlike hey you can be in my shoes
easily too yeah, okay, and whatdo you expect me to do?
I'm trying to save my country,but Trump and them feel like if
you were saving your country,you would have came to peace

(40:02):
negotiations way before here andwe would have tried to make
peace.
But under the Bidenadministration you wasn't doing
that.
So are you trying to save yourcountry?
You don't.
If it wasn't for us, you don'thave any money, you don't have
any weapons.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
we're completely I have all the cards exactly yeah
pretty much exactly okay yeah,yeah, yeah, so, yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
So you, you need us.
Yeah, so we're trying toactually create peace.
And which credit to trump thatthey you know it's been closer
to a peace deal than it ever has.
It was never.
That was never what biden andthe kamala harris um
administration was on, becausethey was trying to do the same

(40:45):
thing they did to break down, uh, so bring down the soviet union
was help find the proxy war,and to where they'll bank up
bankrupt russia oh, yeah, yeah,okay, so um, if you ask me and
so okay, so you don't reallyfeel bad because it's just like
it's not like it was kind oflike corrupt anyway, yeah, it's

(41:07):
like you justtell me how it is to somebody
that don't mean that much so Idon't feel that bad for him.
Yeah, yeah, but of course itwas a show yeah they came in
knowing that there's gonna go inon clearly that man got jumped
it was like it looked like a lotof people surrounding them and

(41:33):
I haven't really seen somethinglike that in a while, you know.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah, it looked like he his back was against the wall
like there was nothing he couldhave done, and then, after it,
all he was doing was apologizing.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
So, uh, it just felt like no, he was trying to defend
himself.
He's trying to defend, defendhimself.
But he didn't really do a goodjob.
Yeah, because I think he cameup.
He came up here with the sametype of agenda that he was
getting from biden and um, butthe biden administration it was

(42:06):
like, hey, I'm you, put me inthis position and shoot, I would
just, I would just be chillingand eating.
Yeah, yeah, because this iswhat y'all want and I'm going to
give y'all what y'all want.
So y'all need me to helpdestroy Russia.
So he was coming in with thatmindset like, hey, I'm going to
just get more money to fund thiswar, so I'm going to just pull

(42:28):
up on America.
And they're like bro, youbetter bow when you come here,
Because you're asking for moneyfrom us.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it is what it is, bro.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
What you think about the whole Canada situation and
him doing 25% tariff for Canadaand Mexico.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah, it's an unnecessary word, if you ask me.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Yeah yeah, canada's talking like we about to go down
.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah, justin Trudeau will be out in a couple months.
He ain't going to be here, ohfor real.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
But I've been hearing that a lot.
Yeah, every time.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Not necessarily him, but I've been hearing that a lot
about the increase in prices oflike damn near everything
that's about to happen justbecause he did it yeah, I think
that was one of the the ones Ididn't want to see, cuz I mean
they're neighboring countriesand they're like little brother,

(43:33):
you know.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I mean like, yeah, that, what do you want them to
see?
They want to be equal partnersto us it's like not really.
Yeah, I, I would have liked toto rather them try to be a part
of america than we actually havea trade war, because it's, it's
a it's all about, like afentanyl issue, a drug issue,
drugs coming into america fromcanada it seems like a small

(43:57):
issue, considering that a lot ofit comes from mexico.
Yeah, and we're now.
We're now it's gonna be a tradewar 25 on goods and they give a
lot of energy.
All it seems like over the top,but yeah there's good and bads
to every presidency.
It's just a part of it.

(44:19):
I'm just seeing how it'll playout and what that looks like.
That's not how I would havetried to deal with it, but then
again I have a limited view ofwhat's going on.
I don't have the whole pictureand all the information.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
That's just something I've just been hearing.
Just like cars, vegetables, uh,oil, like everything is gonna
go up and we're possibly it'sjust gonna mess some stuff up
yeah, I just think that it's nowto a point to where we should
be more self.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
It just self-reliant you know, like I want to get
solar on on my roof.
I know I've I've been to asolar training class.
I don't know if you know, and Iknow how to install solar.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but payingfor it's another thing.
I want to do that.
I want to um, you know, wetalked about chickens and all
that stuff vegetables like, yeah, that's just.
It just pushes me more to thatmindset and I need to be more

(45:21):
urgent about it yeah, yeah, thesolar thing that's um.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
I see it a lot well being in la.
You know it's sunny all thetime out here it's not really
like sunny all the time.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
I could see people selling it elsewhere more than
here yeah, la is differentbecause their um the cost of
electricity is much higher in la, like because we I've mentioned
, maybe last podcast that we uhthrough tba.
We get electricity through tbaand they have the lowest cost in

(45:54):
the in the country to produceelectricity.
So not only that it's hard tocome, solar is harder, it's a
harder sell.
Okay, yeah, so there's so manysolar companies there here to
make it make sense, because alsoI think that if you put money
back into the grid um, and solar, then they give you to the grid

(46:18):
is give pretty much saying thatyou give the utility company
electricity then they'll giveyou money back here.
They took that incident awayseveral years ago so you need a
battery to make it make sense,because otherwise you you'll
only be producing um solar toyour home during the day when
the sun is out.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
It really don't.
From what I see, it's not allthe time.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
We can produce a lot.
Of course it won't be to LA orArizona or all that stuff, but
we'll produce a lot.
But nonetheless you need abattery, Because when it's the
night you need.
Energy needs to be produced andyou'll use that battery to uh
feed your energy usage.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Otherwise then you'll just bepaying for electricity during

(47:06):
the night and you'll just beusing solar during the day, and
people are home more at nightthan they are during the day
because they're working in alongthose right.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Yes, yeah so it really would make that much
sense.
So you have to have a battery.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
People are home more at night than they are during
the day because they're workingand all that.
It really wouldn't make thatmuch sense.
You have to have a batterywhich is like $8,000 on top of
the whole installation.
It's a hard sell because thereturn on investment takes so
much longer.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yeah, that makes sense.
I see that.
Let's see what else we gotwe're doing pretty solid.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah, yeah, there's one video that you.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yeah, the Halle Berry joint.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
I mean.
What.
So I mean just them reactingand enacting that kiss on the
gremlins.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
I mean the thing for me more so is isn't like that's
his wife?
Yeah.
Like how would you feel, Likewhat, if you were the wife?

Speaker 1 (48:12):
And then If I'm the wife.
Yeah, because he did that if Iwas hallie berry's husband,
let's say that yeah yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, if you were hallie
berry's husband, like what?

Speaker 2 (48:23):
what would you be thinking?

Speaker 1 (48:26):
or is it clearly they have like this relationship
that's this flies, like it'scool well, I would hope that you
would let me know ahead of timethat that was what y'all
planned on it don't look like it.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
It looked like she just just saw him and was like
you know what?

Speaker 1 (48:43):
let me just do this yeah, and then I yeah that now
I'm gonna be upset because, I'mnot claiming that that 2003
thing ain't gonna be eventriggering in my head.
Yeah, I have to rememberbecause I didn't think that was
that iconic to remember oh god,yeah, I just, I just realized
that from seeing this, this,this video yeah, exactly I
didn't even know it wassomething.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
So I'm gonna be mad that you just did that, because
I don't think you kissing arandom man, or uh, or he looks
famous, I've seen him before, soyeah, yeah, but I don't be in
tune like that.
So if I'm the husband, Iwouldn't.
I thought you just kissed anactor that you I haven't seen
y'all in movies with for real.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I mean, I don't care if you just got off set Me.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Oh, so you couldn't even handle if they was kissing
on set during an acting scene.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
No, I'm saying that if they just got off of set and
then now you're at the awardshow, whatever, and then you
still go up to this man and kisshim, I'm definitely gonna feel
the way yeah, yeah yeah, I'mjust like what is all this?
But I understand, you know,it's just they have their own
thing.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
I was just asking yeah, but that reminds me, so
could you handle, since you inthe world, about how seeing your
, your girl, acting on screenand kissing and all that stuff
during a scene I, I wouldn'twant to.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Uh, I've been, you know, with an actor before and
it's, it's.
This is me being like supertransparent.
I just don't want to see her.
I don't know other man you know, just like, just straight up,
like I just I don't want to seethat, but um, do I respect it?

(50:24):
Of course, like, do I watchmovies?
And you know, there there aremovies that um are touching like
close your eyes, uh, no stormout and fume?

Speaker 1 (50:42):
no um, you gotta keep it.
You gotta keep it cool.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
No, yeah I'm definitely gonna keep it cool,
like if it's playing, and you,you know you did that.
I respect the art of it.
So, you know, in the back of myhead it's like it's a twitch
back there, but like I'm notgoing to show that.
But if somebody asked me though, you know, like if I'm on stage
or on a panel, it's like how doyou feel about this?
I don't want to see that.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
I don't want to see that.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
But you know I do respect the art.
Like I said, there's plenty ofmovies that I love and you know
they're they're couples.
In the movie there's a wife anda husband.
That shit really looks real andlike it makes you feel away
what about?

Speaker 1 (51:18):
her titties are out and getting their back below I'm
uh, the twitch might show thetwitch might it might show.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
I ain't trying to see that.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
I did see that too before which is oh wow, yep, yep
, you started to do the disneywashington crime yeah, no, I
definitely saw that shit before.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
So like yeah, I just don't, I don't want to see that
shit, I don't.
But I mean, I respect the art,but yeah, if somebody asked me,
I don't care if it's the dude orthe producer or whoever?
how you feel about like I don'twant to see that, but you know
it's a part of that world, whichis why I kind of feel weird

(52:12):
about that world a little bit.
I feel like I feel like being,you know, I plan to be, you know
, just acting in my own filmsand all that type of stuff which
will come with like anon-screen relationship and all
that Like I don't even know whatthat would be like for my woman
to see.
But everybody's different,though.

(52:32):
Everybody's different.
Everybody can handle certainthings, but I just know for a
fact that it is their job toconnect with the other person.
This ain't like you go to theoffice and like, oh, what files
do you have?
Oh, okay, the.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
You have to connect with that person and there has
it has to be such of aconnection that it has to show
on screen and the camera don'tlie yeah, so like it's a little,
a little bit of it just makesme feel weird yeah, my, my
girlfriend ain't having none ofthat, but I told her about a

(53:10):
time to where, like me and Icall him my cousin, but, um,
he's we're not related thoughbut my mom's best friend that
was pregnant at the same time,and they and his mom breastfed
me and my girlfriend got mad atthat yeah it's like I don't like
her.
Like what?

Speaker 2 (53:30):
because she breastfed me as a baby oh my god, yeah,
exactly, oh yeah, she ain'thaving none of that, then yeah
exactly yeah, job or not?
Yeah, no.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
They got AI.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
I don't even think that's enough.
Yeah, yeah, Like no, that'sstill.
Oh right, it's still your face.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Yeah, yeah it.
No, that's too funny.
Yeah, shout out to the peoplethat can digest that, cause I
definitely, me and Hallie Wouldhave to have A conversation Like
Ain't your contract up For themovie?

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Yeah, that was 2003.
Yeah, yeah, so that's 22 yearsago.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Like what and yeah, so what's his name?
The fight.
There was a fight this weekend.
Oh, yeah, yeah right, yeah, andJavante.
So yeah, it was a draw.
And Javante said that you knowhe had took the knee or whatever
because there was grease in hiseye.
Do you believe that?

Speaker 1 (54:33):
No, like I mean one.
There could be just sweat inyour eyes and it's gonna burn,
so you don't even need that itdoes burn, yeah, yeah.
So maybe it's sweating your eye,but at the same time, he's been
doing this for so long thoughand you're a fighter.
Nobody wants to hear that.
That that's an excuse.
That's what you're saying.
It was like nobody wants tohear that type of excuse.

(54:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like I had to shit like brad.
Like nobody wants to hear noexcuse.
Like it's one thing to say Ibroke my arm in a fight and I
couldn't swing with my rightyeah but you're saying brad, I
got grease in my eye so I had totake a knee.
Like brad, you're a warrior fam.
That's not what we, what we are, you can.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
You gotta go through with that if, even if that's the
case, yeah and so so he wouldhave won then if he didn't do
that um I don't really know,because it didn't count oh, so
it didn't knock down didn'tcount.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
But so how it's supposed to go?
If you, if you get to theground, if you self fall-fall,
that's a knockdown.
Yeah, but it didn't count, soit was act like it was never
happened.
That wasn't a part of ajudgment, so he would have
dropped.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
It really don't matter that he did that.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
No, what people are saying.
For him it didn't matterbecause it didn't count, saying
and for him it didn't matter ifhe did like, because it didn't
count.
But for the leech, uh the, theopposing fighter, it was a
knockdown and it should havecounted and he should have won
because it would have been adraw you see, it wouldn't have
been a draw it would have.
It would have been a draw.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
He would have won if they counted that as a knockdown
oh right, right but but yeah,it was a, it was a draw because
it was a close fight okay, soyeah, that's what I'm saying, so
that that even the need didn'thave anything to do with the
results exactly he was just likesaying something yeah, yeah, it
was it because it should have.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
It should have drove a different result uh-huh yeah,
but it didn't.
But he's he's giving an excuseon why it happened okay, I'm
still the best, I'm still act.
You know, I'm still great.
This happened because of thatand, like bruh, nobody wants to
hear that type of excuse yourwarrior yeah, yeah yeah, that
was like when Deontay Wilder waslike bruh, my, my uniform was

(56:53):
too heavy when I walked in thering, that's why I was tired.
It's like nobody really.
You practice and fight forever.
This is the excuse you'remaking like yeah, yeah, you got
your.
And even the hairdresserstylist whoever did his hair is
like I don't even use no greaseI don't know.
She said that did she say that,something like that she's not.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
She said I did your hair on Wednesday it was
Saturday and you you wait in,you you worked out.
Basically you exercised, warmedup and all that stuff yeah,
yeah, so it was.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
It was a lame excuse.
You're a warrior, that's notwhat you stand on.
Regardless if that happened ornot, just say, hey, I should,
this is what happened.
I'm just giving you anexplanation.
But hey, you know what I meanand just leave it at that, but
just say, like, take this, it'sjust an excuse yeah, well, I

(57:49):
guess it still didn't evenreally matter though it should
have mattered, though, and thatwould have like really fucked
him up.
Because I mean, for how I lookat things in boxing is that the
opposer has to definitively showthat he won in order to get
somebody else's title, and aknockdown would have did that.

(58:13):
Yeah.
Otherwise then, yeah, you couldhave did everything great, but
if it was somewhat toe-to-toeand you kind of overwhelmed, you
kind of beat him a little bit,you got to show me proof to
actually get a dub instead of adraw.
Yeah, yeah that's how I look atthings.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Okay.
I don't really have anythingelse.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
I think we're doing great on time.
I don't really have anythingelse.
I think we're doing great ontime.
Alright, we'll close up.
Well, this is another episodeof Tube for the Culture.
We'll be back next week.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yes, sir, I hope you have a good one.
Love y'all.