Sauce Walka, The Breakfast Club Drama, and Dating Ethics: A Raw Conversation

Justin and Steven return with a wide-ranging conversation covering relationship boundaries, examining cultural moments with authenticity and humor.

• Recent shooting incident involving rapper Sauce Walka and what it reveals about hip-hop's dangerous reality
• The practice of artists "checking in" when visiting certain cities and paying local figures for protection
• Astronauts returning from nine months in space looking dramatically aged and the harsh realities of space travel
• Drama at The Breakfast Club between Jess Hilarious and Lauren La Rosa and how workplace conflicts play out differently for women
• Personal relationship non-negotiables including dealing with disrespect, religious compatibility, and energy alignment
• The complex dynamics of jealousy, boundaries, and what constitutes cheating in committed relationships

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we are back with another episode of Two
for the Culture.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
I'm Justin Devante, Steven Ray man.
How are things going?

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Things are going good , man, so we kind of flew by.
I feel like this is the longestthe in-between time of doing
the podcast.
Does it feel like that to you?
It feels like it was a whileago every Monday.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I can see where you come from, because it does feel
like a little bit ago, but Ithink now that we got somewhat
of a rhythm going and that we'redoing things on like a set day,
that it's not like hey, we'redoing things on like a set day.
Yeah, it's not like hey, we'redoing things progressively over
the week yeah, you know what Imean.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, right, and just kind of like mashing it all in.
Exactly how was your?

Speaker 1 (00:55):
week.
Um, it was cool.
Um, this weekend, of course, Iwork like always, but on top of
that, we went bowling oh yeahyeah, yeah, so that was cool I'm
.
I'm actually getting better.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, yeah, like when the last time you went bowling?

Speaker 1 (01:12):
I don't can even tell you it's probably becky
murphysboro days for maybe likeone time outside of that.
Yeah, I'm sure it was probablymaybe five within five years no,
the last time I went bowling.
I surprised myself too yeah, Iwas like okay, I'm actually like
the first time.
Like for some reason, I weirdlyjust used two holes, like, and

(01:35):
I was like this is not reallyworking for me, let me actually
put my thumb in.
Yeah, and it was actually somuch better yeah, I haven't
heard sexual joke this is notworking.
Let me put that's it pause, Iguess, uh, but yeah, so uh, but

(01:59):
I yet haven't yet crafted andmaybe I don't need to do that
one leg.
You know how the bowlers yeahon the side leg to the side.
Yeah, yeah, that'd be lookingcool, and I ain't there yet, uh
yeah, I don't think I've everdone that I don't think I've
ever done that.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
All of my friends growing up most of them they
were like bowlers on bowlingteams, so like they always did
it in a way where I'm like, howdid you do that?
I I never could crack that.
They like throw that in the air, make it spin and it it creeps
on the outside and it spins inthe middle oh, yeah, yeah, I'm

(02:35):
just not that determined.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just want to do the leg droid.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
You know what I mean I think I can get that in my
lifetime.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
You know what, doing the leg thing.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, yeah, and did you?
You didn't accomplish that whenyou went out.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
I didn't try to, because there's too many people
around and I didn't want to getoff balance and slip and fall.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, in front of everybody.
That's why I never did it.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, yeah.
So when everybody left, I feellike doing it, but at that point
I was like I still don't.
Yeah, I'm actually performingfairly well at this point.
So like, let me just keep towhat I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, that makes sense.
I thought that I was going tosuck the last time that I bowled
, but it turned out to be prettywell.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
So I mean, did I do great?
No, of course not, but I didbetter than I thought I would.
That's a win.
Yeah, I hit like three sparesin a row, oh yeah yeah, was that
the only thing you did.
I did hit strikes, but I'm justsaying Like you can hit a
strike and be lucky.
You know what I mean.
But hitting three spares in arow is like actually doing

(03:37):
something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because you knocked down all thepins three times.
You were clearly very proudabout, I feel like y'all
somewhat impressive because itwas no longer is not lucky, you
know me doing something yeah,exactly mm-hmm, and it was just
y'all that went.

(03:59):
Yeah, but this book was peopleat the bowling alley hmm, which
one did y'all go to?
There's one in franklin whichis like 30 minutes away.
I don't know why we went tothat one, but was it bigger,
better, who knows?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
I couldn't tell you why I didn't choose this uh, I'm
saying you went to the, theother one that's closer.
So what was it?
No, we could.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Uh, no, I'm just saying I didn't choose the
bowling eyes, so I I don't.
I don't think it was any betterthan just saying I didn't
choose a bowl, nice, I don't.
I don't think it was any betterthan any bowling knowledge
we've been to before.
Maybe the food was cool, but itwas probably like a social
media thing is what drove thedecision.
We could easily just went onecloser, nearby anyone to make
more sense to, and probablywould have saved a little bit
money too.
Yeah, but they had the neonlights possibly yeah, but you

(04:49):
know I was watching the NCAAbasketball tournament.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Oh March.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Madness right around yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
So of course that's still going on and it was UT
plan, so so I was happy aboutthat.
Yeah, yeah, see them win.
So that was the book of myweekend that's what's up did you
hear, uh.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
What else happened over the weekend?

Speaker 1 (05:13):
what is?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
that um sauce walker got shot.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, say so p,I think is his name.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Do you know who say so?
P was no, never even heard ofhim yeah, I have to look more
into him because they they'retalking about it being a hit on
them.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
It was absolutely a hit on them okay yeah.
So, um, basically, just fromwhat's this speculation?
So I I don't know if this istrue or not, but it's being said
that through some manager, uh,that the say so p dude actually
like ran off with 200 000 fromsomebody and they just got his

(05:51):
ass and they were going to shootsauce walker, but I guess they
realized.
One, he didn't have anything todo with him and two, um, I
guess just just spared him andmaybe have realized who it was.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, that's what it was.
I heard that like hey, herealized who Southwark was.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Like I ain't gonna kill you yeah, yeah, yeah, it
stood over him and that's likethat's crazy?

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, I didn't.
But okay, see, like anythingoutside of that, like somebody
standing over them or somebodyshooting them because they said
it happened outside the fedexforum yeah, around that area,
which is insane, you know.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, yeah, because the fedex forum is, I'm sure,
well protected yeah, absolutelyyeah, that's what they were
saying, that you know that typeof stuff doesn't happen over
there, but I mean does it um forme, being from memphis, what
would you say?
I don't remember the last timeI really was, there was before
college, for real.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
But I'm just saying you know the area or not, really
, I don't really remember it.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I just remember the FedEx Forum, but I mean I don't
know Anywhere in Memphis.
It always to me seems like itcan go down anywhere.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, so if somebody looking for you.
It's wherever you at, but he'snot from C-SOP, is not from
Memphis, he's not.
I'm asking.
I don't know, yeah, yeah, heran out for $200,000?
.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
And then it came back .
I think it was that's what Iheard it was, that's that's what
I heard he ran off of 200 000.
I don't know what deal that wasor where it came from, but, um,
that's what, that's what'sbeing said right now, or that's
that's the information that'slike kind of leaking out, but it
was clearly targeted.
Like they just pulled up, shothim and kept going.

(07:39):
They didn't try to.
I don't think they tried to robhim or anything.
I don't know.
Yeah, but that's that's what Igot from it.
And then Sauce Walker he waslike basically I don't know what
the word for it is, but he wasjust for lack of a better term
like boasting, like yeah, thishappens all the time.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, okay.
And so if you're going by that,if I'm going by that
understanding of how do die heran up at the 200,000, if I'm
soft sauce Walker, well, outsidelicking in, I'm not mad, even
mad at sauce walking for doingthat.
Do it the Boston thing, thereason, the reason why I say

(08:21):
that, because if people, peopleare, because I've seen that, and
people are like you know he,you know he should be mourning
his artist, you could have gotme killed, oh god, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, like you literallygot me shot by your actions.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, yeah, so I wasn't saying like that, I was
saying more.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
So, like you know, I'm speaking for people who I'm
not saying your situation, whatyou brought up.
I'm speaking for people whotalk about like the comments and
stuff uh-huh yeah, like no.
Yeah, I'm going to, you know, Imean use it for clout?

Speaker 2 (08:58):
uh, he definitely was like.
He definitely showed the energyof not being mad about the
situation at all, just like itis what it is, type thing, just
like yo RIP.
He definitely did not lookfucked up at all about it, which
this is not funny.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Because he spared his life.
Thank God, you know what I mean.
Yeah, I appreciate you lookingout for not killing me, right?

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Because, didn't, saswagger, kill somebody on the
streets.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah somebody did something I don't
know if they pressed him ortried to rob him or something
and then some dude lost his lifeover it.
That's just like one thing thatwe know, of course, but that
that like hit the internet maybetwo years ago or a year ago.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, like, and I'm gonna just say, soft swagger,
I'm sure it's highly intelligent, but it's not all the way there
you don't think so I thinkthat's you can say that about a
lot of people too like, yeah,yeah, yeah.
Like is his when it comes tothat.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
It's like his mind ain't right I feel like this is
evolved since the first time Ikind of like knew about him no,
I'm no, I'm like.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
it's not like like chris rock has asperger.
You know what that is?
Uh-uh, it's like burgers withan ass.
No, I'm just playing.
No, it's like what that meansis like he's I'm saying I'm

(10:39):
going to say it wrong, but somepeople will be able to follow me
he's not able to like reademotion Well, like like to.
He's not able to tell thatyou're upset by your body
language type of thing.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
You.
You seen him argue with him.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
That's what he said.
That's what he says.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
He said he has Asperger's.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
So it's like it's like a like a spectrum, like
autistic thing to where they'renot able to read the body
language of you, like if he sayssomething and you're perturbed
and that upsets you, he wouldn'treally be able to notice.
Asperger's I'm is you're sayingit like that?

Speaker 3 (11:18):
but it's what I heard you say yeah, I definitely said
it.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
He said it, but I was just saying it.
I said Asperger's.
I definitely said it, he saidit, but I was just saying it.
I said Asperger's, but when youpronounce it all the syllables,
it sounds a lot wilder than itis, you have to look it up
whenever you got time, okay.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, all right, I thought it was a joke, but I'm
going somewhere, no.
I'm going somewhere with this.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
It's like Asperger's yeah yeah, yeah, I'm going
somewhere with this.
It's like ass burgers yeah,yeah, no, no, that's like
Symptom syndrome, whatever, okay.
But, what I'm saying is Is thathe is Still highly intelligent,
but his, his mind Ain't all theway there.
Uh huh, yeah, yeah.
So I'm not trying to say thatas a slight Like he dumb, yeah,
like Sauce Walker is dumb.
I'm just saying Something ain'tright, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

(12:05):
And just for him to go throughthat, you know what I mean.
And just through the midst ofit, it's like you can clearly
tell something ain't all the way, yeah, yeah.
Whether that's autism orwhatever, it's like okay,
there's something, somethingthere that's missing yeah yeah,
that a normal human has.
Yeah, I don't know if that comesthrough life experience to

(12:27):
where your mind is hardened butyeah, yeah yeah, yeah, or you
just, or it's just all an act.
You know what I?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
mean it could be yeah , me neither.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, yeah, so it's either one of the two rhyme he
speaks in rhyme yeah, I mean,he's very talented, I love his
music, but yeah, yeah, I'm justsaying, I'm just noticing
something, I don't know if Ipicked up on it, but he, um,
yeah, I really don't know toomuch about him.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
To be honest, I used to listen to him when I first
got on to him years ago and thenafter that I kind of like
fizzled out.
So the only thing that I reallysee from him usually is when
happens or like you know, he'sonline doing something, saying
something?
Uh, the basketball, or the dudethat got shot yeah, yeah, yeah

(13:20):
then that that's usually when Ihear something about him, but
but no other than that I don'treally hear too much.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
I do like his music though.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, I think he's highly talented and intelligent.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Do you have Asperger's?

Speaker 1 (13:36):
No, I don't have Asperger's.
I'm able to read people's bodylanguage and tell if.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
I upset them.
Okay, yeah, that was too funny.
That actually actually washilarious more than what it was
should have been yeah, I thoughtit was a joke because we were
talking about Chris Rock.
I was like oh, he said a jokeabout.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
I got you.
I got you know.
I'll just stand to what came tomind you say hey, yeah, chris
Rock is very normal when he doeshave this thing, and I was
saying um suss walker hassomething that hardened his mind
to where that very much reality.
You could die to understandthat.
You live from that.

(14:14):
But there's a product, there'sa blessing in that I am able to
see another day oh, absolutelyyeah.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
That's probably why he's so hype.
He's like damn, this shit couldhave been over.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, yeah.
And then, like I said, I wouldbe mad at Sage Sophie.
Yeah, but that would be hard todo, Like he died for his
actions.
But you very much could havegot me killed.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah.
So I don't know if I would bemad because you know I did live.
I don't know, because you knowI did live.
I don't know I'll be goingthrough different motions.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah, a ton of emotions.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
And then doing that.
You know, what I mean?

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah , this ain't nothing, daddy.
How many times your house gotshot?
45.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
My dad's house got shot 45 times.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
I'm like come on, man .
Yeah why are you celebratingthat?
Yeah, but yeah, sure, and Imean that killer had a
conscience, If they claimed thetruth.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, that was crazy.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, yeah, he's like I ain't going to kill you.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
That was crazy.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah yeah yeah, Because usually it's YNs and it
ain't no thinking yeah, yeah,yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
So to do that.
That's actually love for real.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Like that's actually love for real, because you said
fuck you and everybody you with,yeah, and then he was very much
gonna stand over and kill himand so if it had to be me or you
, he would have killed.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Us got no records out .

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Huh cuz, we're gonna wreck yeah yeah, I mean, if we
ain't a familiar face like Ilike your music.
No, yeah, I mean, but yeah,this is different.
It's different, we in adifferent era.
Yeah, I mean.
Well, I would say that I mean,there's always contract killers,
but you know, they pull up realquick.
I don't know how they foundthem.
I'm sure there's some.

(15:56):
They was looking, though theyalways find them.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, and they always find the killers too.
I mean, it's like it's usuallylike a split second thing, but
over the past I don't know maybeseven to ten years anybody who
wasn't just somebody random onthe street.

(16:20):
It's like they always findthese people Like anybody random
on the street.
It's like they always findthese people like anybody.
So it's just weird to me thatthis stuff isn't like calming
down again.
A nigga run out with 200 000.
You kind of asking forabsolutely yeah.
You kind of asking for that one.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
If that's the truth, if that's true, yeah, yeah,
because I mean yeah, 200 to givesomebody 200 000 says something
like you don't just give nobody200 000 to move weight.
You gotta earn, you gotta buildup to that, yeah, yeah yeah so
you, if you're building up tothat, you very much have a
relationship with the peopleyou're messing with and you know
they ain't playing with you.

(16:58):
Yeah, so you, his mind clearlyain't right if he playing them
games.
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
How could you?

Speaker 2 (17:07):
even yeah, we don't know what happened.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
And I don't live in that world either.
Right you know what I mean.
I'm just clearly speculating.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
No same, but that's just crazy how that happens.
But it's always like thatEverybody who's always cute,
who's like a rapper, they alwaysfind a gunman.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Like everybody, who's always cute, who's like a
rapper, they always find thegovernment, like every time.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, because they found um what's that yellow
beezy dude, and yeah you sawthat.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
I didn't even know that was beef.
They was beefing, did you know?
That no yeah, yeah, I'm likebecause mo three died that's all
me, baby.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
yeah, yeah, like him, like what the?
And then I started typing it up.
I'm like, damn, they did have abeef or something going on and
he just sent out that, like theyalways find it.
Dirk sent off people.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
They always do, but that took a very long time to
find all that.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
I'm saying it was a very long time, or you find this
nigga the next day, like EricHolder or whatever.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, he was very much that was not
coordinated at all.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
I'm just, I don't understand.
I guess nobody's just thinking,nobody's just thinking like in
those moments.
So what I'm saying is I'm notgoing to be surprised if they
find these people Like.
It always seems like they'refound.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, even finding people.
Is Big U on the run or is helocked up?

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, he, no, he should be locked up.
He should be locked up with no,no, no, no, no.
He was the one that wasn'tfound right.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, it was three of them they were looking for.
They got brick baby, some dude.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Oh, I didn't know, brick baby was a part of that
yeah, I think on some rico shityeah, they got brick baby
they've got some other dude andI think they were looking for
Big U.
But Big U had somebody's sonliving with him and that boy
died and the police kept tryingto come up to him and like say

(19:15):
you know, we need your DNA.
And he's like, nah, so I guesshe already knew something was
about to happen or come down.
And then it found out laterthat, uh, under the boy's
fingernails was actually big u'sdna okay, and how old is the
boy?

Speaker 1 (19:33):
the boy he was.
He was a high school.
Okay, because you said the boylike somebody's son.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
I'm like is he a child, like is he seven years
old, right, my bad, but he was,I think, his son's friend,
something like that, just like a.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Something like that, but he ended up dying.
I think either there orsomething.
Something happened, but hewasn't responding to people that
was trying to get his DNA.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
And it come to find out his DNA was under the boys
fingernails the dead boyfingernail yeah, and I guess a
small car, because there's a lotgoing on with this case that
I'm not familiar with.
But what I did see was him, youknow, charging people to check
in right and said somethingabout that with like Nipsey uh.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
I can't remember that , but I'm just saying charging
people like rappers, basketballplayers no, I'm saying, like
three days before nipsey died Isaw a clip and it started with
that.
Now, again, this is all likespeculation, but uh, as I was
scrolling I saw a post and itsaid that he does that, he that
he charges people like forcoming into the city, and you

(20:44):
got to check in with him, or youknow, you don't know.
And there's two points I wantto make.
But the first one was Nipseywas shooting some music video
where DJ Khaled was a part of itand they had to move sets.
They had to move like wherethey were at because I think it
was people pressing them orsomething like that, because,

(21:08):
like, maybe dj khaled orsomebody didn't check in, and
that was three days before hedied.
And there's this dude namedstart with an l.
I don't know his name, but hesaid that um, big u, which
clearly was his boy, because hehad another story about him, and
Big U sitting down at theRoscoe's where PNB Rock got shot

(21:29):
at.
Damn this nigga, the serialkiller overlord, I don't know,
bro, but the dude that startedwith an L his name.
He said that Big U called himone day and said Nipsey got shot
and he's like damn.

(21:49):
And then he called Nipsey andNipsey answered and then he was
just like kind of confused andthen he didn't even worry about
it.
He was just like all right,maybe he got him mixed up with
somebody else, some badinformation, whatever.
30 minutes later nipsey died.
How'd that happen?
So that's no, that's wow yeahthat's, that's something that's

(22:14):
out there.
I don't know what that's about,yeah, but um, that's something
that I read on.
And then the second thing wassupposedly they were at.
This just sounds crazy now, butsupposedly the guy that started
with an L and Big U was at theRoscoes when P and B Rock was

(22:35):
there and I guess the dude triedto press him or something to
give him his chain.
And the dude that started withan L, he was like you know, what
P and B should have did wasjust give him the chain.
And the dude to start with theL, he was like you know what PNB
should have did was just givehim the chain.
We could have got the chainback, we know everybody.
We all he had to do was checkin, basically, and I guess he

(22:56):
wasn't like trying to give himthe chain or whatever, and then
he got shot from what Iunderstood of the situation, he
just shot him and took the chainoff of him that's what I
thought.
That that's what I thought Iheard, yeah at first, yeah, yeah
, yeah, he didn't.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
It wasn't much talk giving up, I don't know.
But then again, that was allwhat I heard and you know
because we talked about enoughold podcasts and you know he was
.
I was like what broke my heartabout the situation that people
were just recording watch thisman squirm for his life yeah
yeah, and that was just so hard.
Like, brad, you know, I mean,this is this man's last death.

(23:34):
Nobody tried to comfort thisman, like let him know he's
going to be okay, you know, puttheir hand on his chest to stop
the bleeding or anything.
They just kind of, you know,like dang, you know what I mean.
You got so many people aroundyou but you dying alone and that
just kind of broke my heart tosee.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
That's.
I don't know what that is.
I don't know what I would do.
I've never seen anybody getkilled but I don't know how I
would react.
But it's definitely not pullingout my phone.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, there's one time I was driving, I was doing
an Uber ride and I think I waseither picking somebody up an
uber ride and I think as eitherpicking somebody up or just
finished dropping somebody off,and this guy, he was laying.
He was laying on the groundoutside his vehicle and in the.
So you know, you have one laneeach way, so one cars going this
way.
The other car thing, you havethat middle section, that's

(24:31):
yellow line.
His car was in the front andhe's behind it just laying down
bleed.
So I'm thinking this man, thisman's like literally his shirt's
off, he's bleeding down fromhis nose and it's hitting his
chest.
I'm thinking this man's dying.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I see it, I hop out the carand I think I'm gonna have to

(24:54):
like hold his neck because it'sjust so much blood, like stop
him from like, you know, tryingto stop his blood from flowing
down.
And then I was like bro, youstraight, you know what I mean.
Yeah, so I'm running up to himand he's like man, I'm good, I

(25:14):
just, you know, cussed thiswoman out and his in it.
No, I think he's like I spit inthis woman's face in his, in
his boyfriend and her boyfriendgot out and punched me and I
just act like I passed that.
Okay, I'm just making sureyou're straight.
Yeah, yeah, yeah that's toofunny.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
No, I don't.
I don't think I've.
I would have remembered, but Idon't think I've ever like seen
anything crazy.
Maybe once, maybe, but that itwas like a car wreck or some,
and it was dark and I didn'tknow if it was a body or not,
which is probably what was body,if I was thinking about it, but

(25:59):
um damn but uh no you hit therush hour what you know he did,
you know he did.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
He ain't gonna be rushing out three.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
No, no, I don't.
I don't really remember what Isaw, so it was very fast, it was
like a blink of an eye and I Icouldn't see it but it was an
ambulance and all this stuff.
I got you yeah, so they was allthere.
You could cover your hands tomake it seem like you ain't an
asshole all yeah, yeah, there'speople around, uh, yeah yeah,
let me not, let me not, um,engage.

(26:35):
Yeah, no, I just it was.
I've never, really, I've never,I've never been in the instance
of things happening, just moreso, like you hear somebody died
or somebody got shot up thestreet or another school or
whatever yeah, I was like man.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
There'll be really dangerous people for real you
know, yeah, like dang, he likehe move, got moved in the city,
like that I guess.
So I'm wondering how you evenbuild that well, I mean, because
I mean it sounds I don't knowif he making money for the gang,
because, like outside of drugs,how's the gangs really making

(27:11):
money?
So I guess it gotta be likedifferent types of situation to
where you, uh, you chargingpeople to check in, you know,
maybe charging for protection um, I forgot the word I'm looking
for to where you like, you liketaxing the company or businesses
.
I'm I'm blanking on the word,but yeah, yeah, so there's a lot

(27:33):
of little ways that you canmake money and all of its
criminal.
So that adds up.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, I never thought about people paying a fee to
check in.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
I thought checking in was like you just talked to
somebody yeah, like respect, buthe's like nah, respect, don't
make me money.
Yeah, that's 10,000 just justto give.
It is like dang how many people.
I got chicken in the city rightyeah, it's like, whatever I'm
doing, gotta make me a lot.

(28:03):
You know I mean because try to10% just to be here is just too
much that is why I've heard alot about that like that's just.
I heard that a lot, a lot aboutla.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I've seen it once with the baby in atlanta.
Oh, yeah, yeah, off a randomvideo shoot but it looked like
it was just a random dude up thestreet that stayed up the
street.
It's like you didn't check in,like who are?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
you.
Yeah, you're like if you wouldhave came to me, I would have
cut out holler at you.
You know what I mean, but thisain't the way we're going to do
it yeah, that's wild.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
I don't want none of that energy around.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, glad that I'm just a civilian.
You know what?

Speaker 3 (28:47):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Uh-huh, because all that's just too much.
Yeah, I'll just write there'sjust peace of mind in what you
do on a day-to-day basis and Ihate to constantly be looking
over my shoulder.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, yeah, because it was that.
I remember when it was likewhen 6ix9ine first got out and
he was going on those rants andstuff.
Yeah, he'll be, you know it'llbe hilarious, but he'll always.
You know he'll be talking tosomebody on that phone but he'll
always kind of look out thewindow to make sure to see if
anybody's around.
That's very much the worst wayto live.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
It's like a deer.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Like any movement, you know you're moving from left
to right.
You hear anything.
That is just the worst way tolive.
Like that is just the worst wayto live.
I've seen it.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
I've seen a video again like it was hilarious a
couple of moments.
But he would be like he's on Oblock or somewhere where I mean
everybody's an op to him, damnnear, but um, he was somewhere
that he wasn't supposed to be in.
He had recorded like a 10second clip of him downtown or

(29:54):
in the street and it was like 2am or some shit and I think he
had Charlamagne, it was someinterview, and then he was like
how long was you out there?
He was like for that 10 secondsand I left, I left the whole
city.
Like why are you playing withyour own life?
Like these people aredefinitely looking for your ass

(30:16):
as soon as that shit uploaded.
But um, no, it's just funny.
I don't know why.
I don't know why people do that.
I like not care that much,because even even even if let's
say that the information thatcame out was right about, Say so
, P, like that day he was likehe was in a Sprinter van with

(30:40):
Sauce Walker and he was justlike, yeah, you know most
rappers, these niggas don't wantto come to Memphis.
Yeah, no, they don't want tocome to Memphis.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
He said that yeah, that was the day before he got
shot.
Was he a white man?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Or he just light's get out it.
He looked like he, yeah, yeahhe looked, yeah, he looked black
or puerto rican okay okay, Idon't know, I don't know what he
is, but he said that you don'twant to come to memphis.
Yeah, oh wow yeah, no, he wasjust saying like all these other
rappers are scared to come tomemphis, and then all that
happened and I'm like damn, ifyou actually did something and

(31:17):
ran off like what are you?

Speaker 3 (31:18):
doing why do?

Speaker 2 (31:19):
people feel like they not, they are untouchable I.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
That's just a lack of thinking, yeah, yeah that.
What are the eyes that thesepeople are going to find me at
this moment, that these peopleare going to find me at this
moment, Mm-hmm yeah yeah, it'sjust, he sounds like a young
dude.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah, I wonder how old he was.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I mean, rest in peace.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
I never heard of him.
Yeah, mm-hmm, yeah RIP.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
We can get on some lighter news.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, deathand crime and war.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, crime and war.
Yeah, there's a lot of thingsthat's going on.
But, speaking of lighter, didyou see the astronauts when I
came back?

Speaker 1 (32:00):
yeah, well, I didn't see, but I heard about it.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
They just look like they're disintegrating.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
I mean, I think that that has something to do with
your bones.
While you're in, like when youdon't have gravity, you don't
have that pressure.
Yeah, I think it has somethingto do with that On top of them.
What are they eating for?

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Like they don't.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
I'm sure they're getting the nutrients From
something, but it's not likehigh caloric.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
But I'm thinking like that was 90 days, or was it 90
days?
9 months, totally different.
But I'm thinking like that was90 days, or was it 90 days?
Nine months.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Okay, nine months.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Totally different.
But that's nine months and itdid all that.
I mean they look like they aged15 years.
I watch a lot of sci-fi movies.
All them motherfuckers is lying.
They be in space forever inthese movies.

(32:58):
Nine months almost killed them.
You could just see it.
I want you know.
It's just like I could havesworn that somebody was in space
for a long time, like I thoughtthat it was.
Maybe this is the long.
Is this the longest anybody'sever been in space?

Speaker 1 (33:18):
uh, I don't know, but also, you got it I don't think
they were equipped to have thelike.
I think they're only supposedto be there for a couple days,
type of thing.
Yeah, yeah, so they may havehad the food, but they didn't
necessarily have like things towork out.
You know, like they didn't haveall the things to keep them

(33:39):
healthy.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Hmm.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, that's.
I don't see the point of goinginto space.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
It's just like it changes everything like in your
body.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
So, like the blood flow goes down to your feet, and
all that because of gravity, Iguess.
Uh and then you don't have that.
They say you, you lose.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Uh, you can lose, like, or your vision can be up,
and because the fluids are Idon't know, they go more to your
head something, something'sdifferent yeah, I mean you gotta
love what you do, and I'msaying you're an astronaut is
and saying you're doingsomething that so many few
people get to do, yeah, yeah.

(34:19):
So it's like a prestige type ofjob that, even though that
happened, you still see the nextmonth going up there.
Yeah, yeah, but but you knowthey're trying to do like space,
space travel as a tour thing.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, I'm not doing that, I barely like flying.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Like why?
Yeah, I'm cool on that.
Like I'm never that adventurous, I'm not even bungee jumping.
No, I'm not jumping from anairplane.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
I'm not A lot of people.
I'm surprised you say thatbecause a lot of people.
I'm surprised you say thatbecause a lot of people.
I hear they do want to do thatonce like yeah, I would love to
skydive because they don't got.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
They don't apparently , they don't got enough to care
about, like, like, yeah, ifyou're skydiving, if you're
taking that risk, then there's.
You need more to do just forreal.
Like, like, why do I need to dothat for real?
I?

Speaker 2 (35:13):
mean it's exhilarating, it's um people
feel alive I feel alive rightnow.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not doing that.
Yeah, that's that is some crazyyeah it's when I'm spending
money to hope to live.
Yeah yeah yeah, like that's the.
That's the best outcome.
Is you living?
I?
Don't see yeah, yeah, yeah Idon't see it.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
I'm definitely not.
Not there.
There's the Michael, it's mine,oh.
I think so yeah, you can see itgo up in there.
I can't see it from over here.
It looks like it's the same.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yeah, you're good, but yeah, so I'm happy to see
them come, come on.
Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah,cause that has to be like.
I mean, you ain't around family, she ain't the cutest girl In
the world, you know what I mean.
And you gotta be loyal For thatnine months.
If you got a family, you knowwhat I mean.

(36:11):
It'll be easier if she was, ofcourse, bad.
Yeah, so I'm just being real.
Yeah, and you were single, ofcourse.
Yeah, yeah yeah, but now thatit's like ah.
But I'm sure y'all got to belike best friends or hate each
other, but at some point you gotto come together oh my god, it

(36:35):
is a long ass time.
Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, and likeit's not like.
Hey, bruh, they know very much,know where you at but, like we
really can't get to you for real.
So you got to be like what ifthey don't?
At some point that's going tobe a factor in your head,
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Like hold on Taking nine monthsto get here.
Nah, bruh.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Like literally anything could happen at any
point of time.
Even getting up there, evencoming down, that shit looks
scary, like that shit is on firewhen you're coming down.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Right, you're in a blazing metal blanket but you
see, that one man that uh jumped, uh from the highest point and
he was like in outer space andlike jumped and took like from a
parachute type shit probably.
Yeah, it was like a red bulltype thing probably yeah he
didn't burn up in the atmosphere.

(37:32):
Well, I don't know how.
None of that works.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
But yeah, hmm, yeah, I don't know.
I think it's got something todo with coming into the
atmosphere, if you, if thebuilding is like I don't believe
the building was like out ofspace.
Uh, well, it looked like hecould see her from the picture
that he was showing.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
I don't believe the building was out of space.
Well, it looked like he couldsee her from the picture that he
was showing.
But it could have been Kat, youknow what I'm saying, but
that's what I was like.
Damn, he's definitely in spacefor real, just minor technical
difficulties.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
We'll get back on there, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
But yeah, to put a pin on it.
The astronaut stuff is yeah,See, I wouldn't want to be you.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yeah, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
No.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
I'm just, I'm going to stick to my movies.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, play an astronaut.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah, play an astronaut, that shit was.
I just watched a movie.
Bro was in space for like Years.
I'm like how these niggaswould've.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Bro was in space for like years.
I'm like how these would have?
And then he's like hello, yeah,are you there?
I can tell you how I wasn'tactually in space.
Yeah, yeah, oh well, yeah, uh,but no, but what about the
breakfast club, though?
Yeah yes, yeah, yeah.
What's so funny I?

Speaker 2 (38:55):
don't know.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, just the tradition was kind of whack.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
No, no, no.
I just started thinking aboutyou kicking your stuff.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
I am.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
But I thought that I just thought about it all and
I'm like I just wonder what'sgoing to happen.
So basically, basically what,just Hilarious.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Just Hilarious called the Breakfast Club out and said
you know they're behaving likea high school and she's
dissatisfied and you know she'staking out on.
You know, lauren.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Did she take it out on her?
Yeah, pretty yeah, for sure,yeah, yeah, I thought she just
like, was kind of going off oneverybody.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
So not on the tennis, so okay.
So she made an ig live and shewas pretty much discussing
issues, uh, on the breakfastclub, because she's getting a
lot of feedback online andnegative feedback telling how
poor she's performing and howthey like lauren over her.
And then, you know, she's alsogetting um killed or, I'll say,

(40:01):
critiqued by cory holcomb verynegatively.
I don't know if you see any ofhis comments, but they they are
funny but nonetheless, if if Iwere her, I you know I could see
it feel away from me yeah, thennot only that, her and dj
academics at bad blood and he'scoming on twitter like, hey, you
know, shawty on here, lauren larosa is, you know, she killing

(40:24):
you, you know.
I mean, yeah, you can't hold acandle to her, um, and but the
bottom line is they are rightfor feeling that way, because
she actually is better for thebreakfast club than than just
hilarious, and that's not.
I'm not saying that there's notbecause just hilarious doesn't

(40:47):
have a place.
There is that Charlamagne fillsin what just hilarious provides
.
Like that the comedic factor isthat Charlamagne fills in what
Just Hilarious provides, likethat comedic factor is like
Charlamagne adds that.
So you're kind of like doublingdown, which you know.
I'm not saying that she's justin a bad role, but you know what

(41:11):
I mean.
But what Lor LaRosa offers isso much more.
You can tell she loves this.
So, she comes from TMZ, shecomes from investigation, she
knows to make phone calls.
Like, hey, I'm going to makephone calls to police station.
I'm going to use the BreakfastClub name to kind of clock my
way through it and so they cangive me information.

(41:31):
I'm going to call the office ofTony Busby to name to, to kind
of clock my way through it andso they can give me information.
I'm gonna call the office oftony busby to see what type of
um clarity if they want to makea statement.
You know, so she's doing allthose things because I mean,
she's just using the cloud ofbeverage to to kind of get
through you know what she needsto to make a great investigation

(41:53):
and give out a good story.
So she just has the experienceto do that and so it just
doesn't know how to do none ofthat stuff, or probably cares to
do any of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I didn't know that it was like that.
I don't want to say it's bad,because I'm pretty sure there's
good too, but we're justfocusing on the negative right
now.
But I didn't see a lot of well,clearly, I don't watch it.
I usually just watch clipsthat's online.
So, in terms of her and whatI've heard about her speaking

(42:27):
all this stuff, I never saw anyof that.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
You're talking about, like her reading yeah, saw any
of that you talking about.
Like her reading yeah, I didn't.
Yeah, I didn't think that waslike that big of a deal compared
compared to it was just timesthat, just hilarious.
Before lauren got there, she'llread that the headline like
kyan west went on and ran again.
I don't care about this, likeshe'll just quickly go over it

(42:53):
without really give you know,giving much commentary on it,
and she just picked and chooseon the information she liked.
So when you do that, you're notgoing to what she misses is
you're.
That's not going to play to theproducers in the back.
Well, because they're the onewho gave me the story and you
don't care.
So you're saying like I don'tgive a shit about what y'all

(43:16):
doing, y'all putting all theirhard work and throwing it out
the window so that.
So you're very much not going tobe played as a team.
So when somebody else isoffering and investigating and
looking at information and it'scommunicating well with the team
, they're going to love her.
It's not just what you.
Even if jess was killing it,it's one thing if she was like
killing it and treated everybodyyou know I I'm this is outside

(43:39):
looking in if she treatedeverybody like shit and she.
But she was killing it likebruh.
You know what she offers toomuch for for us, so we got to
just deal with like michaeljordan but, but it's one thing.
If you're not performing well,um, you take a leave and then
somebody steps in, it's onething.
If you're not performing well,you take a leave, and this
somebody steps in is like a sighof relief.
Yeah, yeah, cuz Lauren itseemed like she was very much on

(44:02):
and off the court like doingwell, like get hate, even
telling Jess, like if there'sever a problem, just let me know
.
We, just we can talk throughthis you know, we're on the same
team, type of shit.
Yeah, she said that she was hertalent.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Her talent.
Yeah, what do you mean?
I thought you might have known,but yeah, I remember.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
So he's saying when she said I picked her, I picked
her to take my position.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
No, not just saying that Is it Lauren or Lorraine?
I don did Laura, is it Laurenor Lauren?
Lauren, lauren, yeah, when shethey were talking and she said
you know, you're my talent, soyou're always gonna be okay,
we're gonna figure it out.
She said that.
So I didn't know, like in whatrelation.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Like the flip side of the relationship was, yeah, it
would be different if, becauselauren la rosa I'm yeah, um, she
doesn't give what just can give, just it's very much hilarious,
literally uh, no pun, and thenshe could come off the cup and

(45:10):
say some stuff, just becausethat's her comedic factor.
So you know, lauren can'treally offer that same thing and
that same talent, but it'sdifferent when it's not like you
need that, when Charlamagne hasthat you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
I do think it's a different type of funny though.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Maybe slightly, but what I'm saying is it's like all
right, you got a team ofthree-point shooters.
Somebody needs a rebound, bro,you know what I mean and
somebody needs to facilitate.
So if everybody's shooting,there ain't five balls, there's
only one, yeah.
So you got to pass the rock,otherwise you're all doing the
same stuff.
So somebody got to do itdifferent.

(45:54):
You gotta pass the rock,otherwise you're taking.
You're all doing the same stuff, so somebody gotta do different
.
That's what I'm saying is likejust hilarious.
May add maybe 20 on of comedic,but she ain't giving you that
much more to where you need thatcomedic relief for real.
Even when there's everybody'sauditioning, they had a rotation
.
I was like this girl is great.
I felt like Jesse Lee it's justmy opinion only got that

(46:17):
position because Charlamagnepushed for her to get that
position, not to say she wasn'tgreat mm-hmm or good, I felt
like there was a place for her,but there was also better, and
Lauren was betterso when?
So when Jess took that leavebecause she was pregnant,
everybody was blocking on theinternet saying how great she

(46:40):
was, and that very much takes atoll on anybody.
And then she felt and this iswhere I do agree with Jess it's
like alright, nobody'scommunicating with me, they're
making decisions without me, youknow, and I'm getting fed up
and then yeah, she's coming intoa situation of it's just not

(47:03):
almost seems like it's notfamiliar territory anymore.
You start to fall out of lovebecause you're not feeling love
from anybody else.
You feel very much isolated.
So you're going to go to whatyou love to do, where you feel
the love from.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean thisis like you know.
You get pushed away from thecool kids, so you go to the kids
that are willing to accept youand play Yu-Gi-Oh.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
That's the kind of yeah, go where you're celebrated
and accelerated.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah, go where you're celebrated.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, and that's how she felt,
not saying that that was theright way to feel, but I can
feel that I can understand that.
Now I wonder what effect thathad on everything.
That's one of my things thatkind of makes me like whether
all this stuff is happening ornot.
It's just when you do that youknow that's a different
conversation, like from theexecs in the room or not in the

(47:57):
room at all, don't even got tomeet you, but you know, running
a company it's like kind of notgreat business, you know, and to
see that online.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
So I hope, because you're very much shitting on
them.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Yeah, that's exactly what you're doing showing up to
work the next day and likemoving on, but like there's now
a stain on your name yeah, yeah,um yeah, I think that you know
now.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
They're trying, they're understanding one.
She's a woman so it's differentwhen a woman does it versus a
man, because you you're notgonna, as a man, you not going
to have that much grace yeahno-transcript.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
I don't think I've ever seen that happen for real.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Where you kind of where a man flips off on his
team yeah right, yeah, you don't.
So what happened was which,what happens when she's a lady.
So it's not like I'm saying itas like a terrible thing, but
it's like you see her sad andcrying so you want to console

(49:01):
her.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
And try to make changes to make her feel better.
But if you're man, you're goingto be more argumentative.
You may be able to seesomebody's point, but if they're
doing that, you're like bruh.
The last thing you want to dois like abide.
You know you want to consolethem and make adjustments, even
if they're right.
You may push back a little bit,but when you see a lady crying,

(49:23):
a pretty lady.
you want to console her.
You want to console them andmake adjustments, even if
they're right, you may push backa little bit, but when you see
a lady crying a pretty lady youwant to console her.
You want to hold her, it's okay.
Let's try to make changes, toadjust, and that's kind of how
it is and she feels better.
No, we're good.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
I mean, that's what I'm wondering.
Like I'm wondering, iseverything good or is it just
like we patched that up and theyclocked that shit as soon as it
happened and was like you knowwhat?
All right, we're going to tryto figure out a way to move some
things around.

(49:58):
I did see that the other girl.
She just got a new show.
Maybe it's like an onlinepodcast or something with the
Breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
You talking about Lauren?

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Lourdes, uh-huh, like today?
I'm not sure yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Yeah, but I'm sure they very much make adjustments,
but it sounds like it's thatthing, it's like ah, I'm going
to put this in the back of mymind.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Yeah, yeah, when it comes to making decisions, you
know it's very much going to beremembered.
Yeah, yeah, we may not, we maybe like, okay, things are better
and apology accepted if therewas one, but it's going to be in
the back of my mind.
I'm going to remember that.
Yeah, so it's very much thosesituations and you can never

(50:44):
count on a white person becausethey're very unforgiving yeah
yeah, yeah, so yeah yeah, that'sthe only thing.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
I'm kind of like damn , now that that's out there and
that happened.
It was a big thing.
It was like everywhereeverybody was posting that shit.
So hopefully that don't likeruin anything she had going.
But I mean, I just couldn'timagine being a part of a net.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
I would have woke up the next day and be like I
fucked up I'm sure she, I'm sureshe probably felt that, but you
gotta stand on it because a lotof people don't are accountable
.
Yeah, yeah you gotta.
She may feel that eternally,but she gonna stand up because
she's not gonna hold herselfaccountable, because there's no
like you know what Like, evenwhen she's like.

(51:31):
I was mad at Lauren, but Iremember you ain't really who
I'm mad at.
It's these motherfuckers I'mmad at.
So you're saying, yeah, so itwas great for the numbers, you
know, because it did boostratings, uh-huh yeah, because
it's messy, yeah, it's messy.
Just you know you can watchzeus.

(51:52):
We talked about aaron theplumber you know, I mean yeah
all this is messy, but it's it's.
It's good for ratings for sure.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
I definitely looked the next day and tried to see
any like, even when they weretalking to any of the new guests
.
I was trying to see was theregoing to be anything said about
what just happened?
You know, so you got me too.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
So yeah, it was.
I mean, it was the number onetrending thing on YouTube oh,
for real, yeah, oh, fuck, yeah,yeah so I mean it was the number
one trending thing on YouTube.
Oh, for real, yeah, oh, fuck,yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Shit.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
So I mean, yeah, I think it's just.
You know, you can only have somany of those Like as black men.
You damn near can't have any,and you may can get by with one,
but you damn sure ain't gonnahave two.
Yeah, yeah, so that's kind ofrare, it's still on that.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Yeah.
No, I haven't really seen thatwith me.
I don't even I'm trying to likethink of something, but usually
they up in their own life andthen they're fired like they
ain't got nothing to do with theshow, I'm just saying I can
think of situations where peopleblew up.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Black men blew up, but they didn't last long.
It's not like they stayed.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
I don't even think it would get that far.
Like I said, usually they didsomething that has nothing to do
with the job.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
They talk about the, the thing about that which is
like disturbing, like like y'all, the internet wants y'all to
pit two black women against eachother.
It's like, bruh, is that whatwe're really doing?
It's like that's not what thatis.
Yeah, they happen to be blackwomen, but they you're comparing

(53:44):
anybody in those seats.
Yeah, whether they're black,like hey, he, he ain't as good
as her, he, he, he needs to bemoved off that because he just
he's not gonna be better forthat role and that happens all
the time.
Even joe budden podcast.
They talk about his formerco-host, rory maul, and you know

(54:05):
, disease, these guys ain'tbetter than him.
Um, yeah, and then not onlythat, uh, joe button had like a
podcast where he talked abouttrade.
You know, like, like, who wouldyou trade for who, like, I'll
trade you for?

Speaker 3 (54:22):
you know, like the podcast, yeah, exactly yeah
exactly so, yeah, so that that'sjust life yeah, yeah this
comparison.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
People are going to compare who's better than new
drake versus kendrick.
It's just, that's life rightyeah, um, but that's just kind
of all I had.
I don't know if you have anyfinal thoughts.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
No, I'm trying to see if anything else happened this
week.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Oh well, I was talking about that, I mean yeah,
but yeah, I think that wasreally caught up, you know, for
the week.
Yeah, I think no.
Yeah, I think that.
I'm good, okay.
Well, you know, I had the lastcouple of kind of relief things
to talk about, because I reallyliked how you did that.
Uh, relationship stuff oh, yeah, yeah that's what it was cool

(55:08):
to talk about and chill and Ilike dang, I can really keep
going yeah um, but yeah, wecould stay on relationship and I
maybe ask you a couplequestions, all right, what are
your um non-negotiables?

Speaker 2 (55:22):
and non-negotiables.
Non-negotiables in arelationship in a relationship,
like disrespect in terms of like, like how women can kind of
lose control of themselves, likegoing off on you and shit.
Yeah, I feel like that's,that's a sign that's not gonna

(55:46):
work out well but I feel likeyou there's.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
I understand that's going to be upsetting you, but
I'm, when I say non-negotiables,like I'm, we're going to break
up I have to.
So if she does that, once youbreaking up with her that's what
I kind of like, I think likeany mistake or whatever you know
.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Um, well, I mean, like a violent person like
you're like violent, likestaying with you it's not going
to be good for me, like at all.
So, um, that's, that's just onething.
So you know, if you just likeyell at me one day and I'm like

(56:31):
telling you or have aconversation with you, like hey
brother, I can't be with you ifyou doing that, I could see
myself doing that.
But, um, yeah, but if it evergot like she get in my face or
something like that, like Ialready know what I'm about to
do, I'm gonna have to leavebecause it's not.
It ain't ever good for a man atall like I feel like even if you

(56:56):
were to, even if a girl was allon you and just like all right
and just was some violentratchet creature and you just
like push her off of you, you'restill in the wrong.
So it's like I feel likethat'll never go right.
That's yeah, I feel like that'sdangerous to be with a woman

(57:16):
like that.
Okay, yeah, what about you.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Um, if you're not willing to go to church with me,
I don't think that's well inmarriage, but I'm very much
dating to marry, so yeah, yeah.
So it's like I'm not going toreally pursue you much further
than that.
If you're not, don't have likereligious values like mine that

(57:40):
makes sense.
Yeah, not considerate yeah, umthat takes that takes time to
see that yeah, yeah, it does,yeah, for sure, yeah, um, rude,
rude, yeah.
Like I don't like off-puttingpeople, like I see a lot of

(58:05):
women not majority, not all, butthere's a lot of them who are
like you got to make them happyyeah.
You know what I mean.
Like they just like have aresting bitch face attached to
them.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Uh-huh, uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
And you got to like make them them feel better.
You know what I mean.
Like you gotta play to that inorder to get to them and like,
nah, I want somebody who's like,has a smile on their face, like
you know, not doesn't have tobe life of the party, but it's
easy to talk to.
Doesn't feel like I have to getto a barrier to get to know
them like you know, just willingto meet people.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Yeah, we make each other like happier instead of
like I have to keep making youhappy.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
I don't want you.
I don't want my person to belike known as a mean girl,
uh-huh yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Yeah, so that's just a non-negotiable if she uh gets
to argue with somebody I meanthat that's just like.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
That's like, say I, I don't want her to be mad, like
that's just, she's human, youknow.
That's one thing, but I'm justsaying it's just like.
You know, those people that belike like the bougie attitude
time, like yeah, that's not whoI really care.
I want somebody that's likesmiling and love to be like when

(59:26):
they come, when they see her,they like like happy that she is
, she's the light of the room.
That's why I want that's notnecessarily non-negotiable,
because I would just.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
I love that For me like yeah, yeah, no, energy is
definitely infectious, exactlyfor real.
I've definitely been insituations where that mean girl
stuff was like kind of like athing or whatever it won't.
It probably wasn't like drastic, but it was just enough to

(01:00:00):
where I realized I was gossipingabout people eventually, and
it's just like why am I doingthis?
I don't do this.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Gossiping can be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
It can, but that's what I'm saying, though it's
like it'll be something that youdon't normally do, or like you
want a girl who does this andthat, but then, like everything
starts slow.
You know what I'm saying?
The exchange of energy, and Idon't want to be you know.
Going more to what you'resaying, it's like if somebody

(01:00:33):
walks by and then it's like thatbitch ain't even wearing that,
right?
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
yeah, yeah, I don't like, yeah, I don't like that,
yeah, but I'm saying that'llfeed off of that and eventually
you might find yourself sayingsomething you think it's funny
and then you don't realize untillater.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Like I wasn't talking about people like this yeah
right.
I feel you, I feel you.
Yeah, I feel that shit too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Yeah, I feel that shit too.
Yeah, is can.
Okay, let me let me phrase thisright.
So if I think we both agreethat having a girl that, like
girls, can be a win, correct orno?

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
I think it can.
I want I'd rather, I'd rather.
What was the question?

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
yeah, okay yeah, so the question I and I guess I
didn't really need to ask thatto get to the question was so if
she was willing to I guess thisis more of the question I
should have asked is if she wasto allow you to have a threesome
with her and another girl, thatwould be a win.
Yeah, okay, so if she allowedthat.

(01:01:53):
But what if, say, if you're notaround, see, there we go, then
she's willing to have sex withthe other girl?
Is that okay?

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
That's what I'm saying usually, like I'm like
very just naturally liketerritorial just like your mind
yeah you know what I'm saying.
So I want a girl if or I'm notopposed to having a girl that
would do that with me Well, likehaving like the threesomes and

(01:02:26):
all this stuff, but I don't wanther to like women so much that
she would date a woman.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
But what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
is fuck on a woman without me there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Okay, okay.
So, even though she's like hey,we had sex while you was there.
What's the difference if wejust have sex on our own?

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
the type of women that I picked.
She wouldn't even say that, orif she did, she knew like that
don't even make sense, becauseif I have sex with this girl and
you're not there, then now isthat's probably like cheating.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
But I'm asking you before I do it is her response
like hey, can I have sex withthis girl?
Because we already had sex withher so what's?
The difference if I do it asolo when because you're out of
town or filming a movie uh, Ifeel like I don don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
I'm going to feel some type of way.
I'm going to feel some type ofway Just because you even asked
me that, so she came in andasked you.
No, she could ask me.
But now I know like For me I.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
You don't want her to know that she likes women.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
No, no, no.
I want her to.
If I had a woman like that thatis down to do threesomes, I
would want to do that with her.
But again, I don't want her tolike, like, like girls.
I want her to look at it likeoh, this is a fun time with my
man type thing, not necessarily,oh, my man's gone and I could

(01:04:07):
call her over like.
To me that's still like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
In a way it's kind of like cheating, I feel like
she's saying I'm loyal, butsince I've already had sex with
her, I'm gonna ask to see ifit's okay.
So she's getting yourpermission, so she's not
cheating.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
She's asking you and your response is no, I'm going
to be jealous yeah, probablyokay, okay yeah probably I'm
like I ain't I don't know,because I feel like I I don't
like anybody having nothing overme, over me, as in like I don't
want this girl to be like, yeah, I just fucked on uh, but I but

(01:04:45):
you gave permission, so how'sshe gonna have that over you if
you're the one who gave it theokay?

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
like yeah you, how you putting that over me?
Like I told, I said that wascool, so it's not like you did
something out of bounds, I don'tknow it's just something about
it.
I don't know what it is, butit's just something about her
having an experience withsomebody else and I'm not around
doesn't sit well so do youthink if she was eating her
better than you could have everdid and making her cum and

(01:05:14):
squirt, that would have been aproblem?
I'm asking like while you're inthe threesome while I'm in the
threesome.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Yeah, the third party .

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
I'm in the threesome, yeah, oh, and she's doing all
that.
Yeah, the third party.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
I'm gonna be, I'm gonna feel something.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Okay, I'm definitely gonna feel something.
I'm like wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Okay, Like she gonna be thinking about this when we
leave here.
We both gonna be thinking aboutthis in two different ways.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
So you just wanted, you just want to stick your dick
in both of them.
We just win that that way, andyou just want them to kiss a
little bit, to take it's thethreesome is all about you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
It sounds like no, I'm saying we can do that, but
you just, you just made it seemlike I ain't in this.
I'm just damn near uh uhsitting on the wall or something
, and they just in here goingcrazy yeah, they warming up,
they kiss each other yeah,that's fine yeah, it started
getting warming up the positionand getting out ready for you
and that's the even.

(01:06:10):
That's fine.
But you saying she just like bythe time I get in here my girl
done.
What if?

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
you net it and they didn't, and then so you got to
get up again.
Okay, so they should stop andpause.
No, okay, then.
So what if that happens?

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
and you just said, if this girl has got my girl going
absolutely insane, crazy, I'mgonna feel anything.
Yes, yes absolutely.
Well, you're gonna be like nah,I'm gonna let it play out and
then I'm gonna sit in the carlike that rock me and I'm going

(01:06:45):
to really be like thinking aboutthis whole thing.
So threesomes really ain't foryou.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Then you said threesomes, I don't know, maybe
they not, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
I just don't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
I feel like I can have fun with my girl in a
threesome.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
I feel like I could definitely do that.
I just don't want her to like,like girls, mm-hmm.
You know, I'm saying like ifI'm not here and she had the
club or at the strip club orsomething and then she got a few
drinks and actually making outwith this stripper or some shit,
I'm not gonna fuck with it yeah, but.
I mean cuz that.
That means you like, you'd like, like girl but women like, like

(01:07:21):
niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
So what's that got to do with it?

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Well, I'm saying that I wouldn't have an issue with
the threesome.
But if you actually like girlsenough to fuck on them when I'm
not there, or actually kind oflike this girl, then that kind
of like takes it out for me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Okay, my last question Uh-huh, which would you
rather have your girl docheating on you with the girl or
cheating on you with the man?

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Uh, I mean, I feel like with a girl.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Okay, yeah, yeah, but that's what I'm saying Because
you talked about like-liking.
Like I want my girl tolike-like girls Because you know
she could be at it and shewould fancy this one chick.
It's like she like-like niggas,so she could fancy a nigga and
you not be around a chick.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Yeah, if we talking about cheating, sure, yeah, yeah
, that's what that's I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
But you said like like girls.
I was like yeah, but she couldalso like like, she also like
like I'm just saying it would.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Just it would change something for me, like in the
threes, because it's like, evenif that girl that we having a
threesome with likes women andshe likes my woman, I feel like
I don't know what.
It's all cool until I'm likevery in love with a woman.
Because once I'm in love with awoman, it's like I don't.

(01:08:52):
I don't want any type of energybeing like outside of us if it
has something to do with likeliking somebody or loving
somebody, or wanting you soattracted to somebody you want
to fuck them and all this typeof shit.
I'd rather do that with my girl,but some just don't sit right.
Some just don't sit right.

(01:09:14):
I've had two types of womenbefore.
I've never had a threesome, butI've had two types of women
before and it's one who doesn'tlike girls at all period.
Anytime they get hit on theydon't even know what's going on,
like their mind's not eventhere.
never had to worry about thattype of thing I had another girl

(01:09:37):
who, uh, was down to dothreesomes but we didn't last
long enough for that to happen,so but she kind of liked girls
and it always made me kind offeel a little weird with her
being with her own environmentand shit.

(01:09:59):
And it's usually around a bunchof pretty women and clubs and
like this and that, and I wouldthink in the back of my women in
clubs and like this and thatand I would think in the back of
my head like damn, I wonder.
But that's some shit I neverhad to wonder about with the
girl doing a threesome, becauseI thought being with somebody
that's willing to do threesomesand shit was like great, but I
didn't know that it came withthat side.
For me.

(01:10:20):
Yeah, so I realized that there'sdefinitely for me, me, it all
literally boils down to being inlove with a woman, like if I
like a girl, then like it'swhatever yeah, you're like yeah,
of course I'm gonna take apiece of it if I don't care for
y'all like that yeah yeah, youcan, you can scream and holler
you want to?
yeah, do that I could leave, youcould fuck, you could do

(01:10:42):
whatever but when it comes to mebeing in love with you, I
automatically think of you aslike a potential wife.
I don't just be like makinggirls my girlfriend just cause.
So yeah, when that is all inplay, then it kind of changes a
little bit of that, for me yeahthat's that I.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
I.
I got you, yeah.
Well, I think we're wrapping up.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
That was good I enjoyed it yeah, no, that was
dope, that was dope.
Uh, yeah, I'm good, all rightwell, this is uh.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Look at me this is two for the culture.
We'll be back with anotherepisode, all right.