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Welcome back to the show.
I am your host, Tiana.
When was the last time that youfelt real pressure?
Not stress, not inconvenience,but the kind of pressure that
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made you question whether youwere actually built for the
thing that you were reaching foror that you were pursuing.
Now, in this episode, I'm goingto share with you a story from
my very first job when I was 15years old and why thinking back
on it now, it's absolutelyinsane the type of job that it
was at such a young age.
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I'm also going to share with youmy thoughts about how pressure,
especially from the people thatlove us the most, can actually
be damaging if you're carryingit the wrong way, if you're
interpreting it the wrong way.
And then we will reframe how wecarry our emotional weight.
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Like, how are we going to movethrough life with some of the
heavier stuff or the stuff thatwe don't talk about?
So let's get started with thiswild job story.
And this came to me todaybecause I was training a client
and we're both from the Bronx.
And I had said to her, you know,funny enough, when I was 15
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years old, I worked atMontefiore Medical Center, which
is in the northwestern part ofthe Bronx.
It's very close to WestchesterCounty.
And if you're not from the area,it's part of New York City.
The Bronx is one of theboroughs.
But I would say it's probably a30-minute drive along the West
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Side Highway up the Henry HudsonParkway.
So if there was no traffic andyou were on a clear roadway, not
taking regular, you know, streettraffic, probably a 30-minute
drive, maybe 25 minutes, uh,just for reference.
And at the time I lived furthernorth in Westchester County, but
my stepdad worked in the Bronxas well.
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He's an attorney and his officewas not terribly far.
So he was a real one and hewould drop me off in the
morning.
He would go to work, I'd be atwork, and then he would pick me
up in the afternoon.
And sometimes my mom would pickme up, just depended on the day.
And we'd go back to Westchester.
But here's the thing about thisjob that was so interesting to
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me, thinking about it now, at 47years old.
I was 15 years old and I workedin the oncology department of a
major metropolitan hospital.
And we're talking New York City,okay?
We're talking about walking intoareas where I had to have a
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badge that were, you know, acertain status.
I was by myself most of the day,in between work functions.
For example, if I wanted to takea break, if I went out for
lunch, if I was waiting forsomeone to pick me up, little
old me at 15 years old was inthese different areas by myself.
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And contrary to what may beportrayed on television and in
movies, New York City is not alldangerous.
But you need to be alert and youneed to know your surroundings,
you need to be aware.
You, you know, can't uh wanderoff into space.
You have to be vigilant.
And, you know, at this time, Iwould say most 15-year-olds were
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probably camp counselors, orthey were a lifeguard at a pool
or at the beach, or maybe theydid babysitting.
Or, you know, I remember one ofmy high school friends, he
worked at the pizza shop downthe street from me.
But, you know, no, for me, I hadto work in a cancer research
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laboratory in a major hospital.
And, you know, it just totallytracks because I grew up with a
lot of pressure.
And my mom always wanted thebest for me.
However, her delivery was notalways the nicest.
And this was an opportunity toput something that would help me
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get into college.
This would, this is something Icould put on my college
applications and talk about inany essays that I had to write.
And hopefully it would, youknow, we we hoped at the time it
would set me apart from otherapplicants.
Did it help?
I don't know.
Did it help me get ascholarship?
Maybe.
Who knows?
It was so long ago.
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Uh, but you know, at 15, I thinkabout 15-year-olds today.
And if I had a 15-year-olddaughter, I would not be okay
with her working in a busy NewYork City hospital, even though,
you know, during the day she'sin a laboratory, she's with
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other doctors, you know, not byherself, but like the it's the
going in and out, it's thehangout.
And I remember thinking back, Iremember there was a gentleman
that used to flirt with me, andhe was a lot older.
And I was only 15 years old.
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Aye, aye, aye.
Nothing ever happened.
I don't even remember the guy'sname, but I knew.
I knew at 15 years old that hethought I was cute, you know.
Um very interesting.
Wow.
You know, I didn't remember thatuntil I was actually mic'd up
and talking about it.
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But going back to, you know,that experience, it helped me
mature for sure.
Not the guy, I'm talking aboutthe actual job because I worked
in in the research laboratory.
So we were analyzing bloodsamples, and I learned the whole
process.
Uh, I learned how to identifydifferent cells, and I even sat
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and joined the doctors at theirround table.
And at a very, veryimpressionable place in my
growth, I learned how to conductmyself among professionals.
I learned how to pay attention,how to articulate things, how to
use my manners and you know,show respect.
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And it helped me tremendously inall areas of my life.
But at 15, to be in such ahigh-stakes environment, there's
a lot of pressure there.
And then when I would go home,there was a lot of pressure at
home as well.
Now, my stepdad was pretty laidback.
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My mom was all over me all thetime.
You know, I know it was fromconcern.
I know she only wanted the bestfor me, and I know that in some
ways she was trying to create anenvironment and provide
something that she did not haveherself, and to make sure that I
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not only got opportunities thatshe did not, but that I not only
took the opportunities, but thatI chose the best, nothing but
the best for me, no matter thecost, meaning the emotional
cost.
And so in high school, I waspulling all nighters to get good
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grades.
Uh, I struggled with studying.
I was not naturally a goodstudent.
I would read the same page oftext or in my notes over and
over and over and over again.
I struggled in school.
And I'm sure if I said this infront of my mom or if she ever
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listens to this episode, shewill roll her eyes and be like,
that's not true.
But it absolutely is true.
The thing is, I was also good atplaying the game.
I know now that back then, youknow, I could talk the talk.
But when it came down to takingthe tests, when it came down to
getting specific about things,that's where I would feel frozen
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or stuck.
Now, I've mentioned this inother episodes.
There was a lot of stress in thehouse.
My younger brother, the oneclosest to me in age, was
constantly in and out oftrouble.
And my mom and stepdad weretrying to have a baby.
So my junior year of highschool, my mom was pregnant, so
there was a lot of emotions, youknow, the roller coaster ride of
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emotions, and then there was ababy in the house.
And so there was a lot ofstress.
There was fighting.
My dad was in jail.
I was always trying to go seehim and, you know, write him
letters and get calls from him.
And there was a lot of justhigh-flying emotions at all
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times.
But the thing that was thehardest for me was being
pressured to make certaindecisions about my future at
such a young age.
So I applied to uh West Point aswell as Annapolis.
Those are both militaryacademies.
And I did that primarily becauseI wanted excellent education.
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And I thought that's a greatpath for me to go.
And you get a quote unquote freeeducation.
There's absolutely nothing freeabout it because you give your
life to the armed forces.
But I thought, you know, maybeI'm cut out for this.
Maybe it would be really cool.
I had always thought as a littlegirl, it would be amazing to be
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a pilot or to do somethingreally unique, adventurous, and
special.
What that was, I wasn't quitesure.
So I started this applicationprocess, and throughout the
process, I wound up withdrawingmy application from Annapolis
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because when I gave it morethought, the idea of going out
uh into the middle of the oceanor being put on a submarine for
months at a time did not appealto me.
But being at West Point wasn'ttoo bad because it was only
about an hour north of where Iwas living at the time.
It's a beautiful area, and myparents could come and visit me
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uh more frequently.
However, I didn't get in.
I made it all the way throughthe process, and then I was put
on the wait list.
So I wanted to do engineering orI wanted to do something with
math.
And by the time I found out Iwasn't going to go to West
Point, I had my other collegechoices listed, and I was trying
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to decide what major I wanted.
And here's the reallyheartbreaking part for me.
I would throw out ideas, I wouldtalk to my mom about what I was
interested in, and it would justbe a flat out no.
So I thought about maybe being amath teacher.
I love math, no.
I thought about being an Englishteacher, no.
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And when you're 15, 16, 17, andyou're trying to figure out what
are you going to do for the restof your life, it feels like it's
a high-stakes conversation andthere's a lot of pressure there,
right?
So if I kept getting shot downwith all of my ideas, it started
to feel like I wasn't goodenough, that none of my ideas
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were good enough.
And the part that was reallydifficult for me is that I knew
in my teens I was suppressing mycreativity.
My parents were both strugglingartists and then business
owners, and they didn't wantthat life for me.
They wanted me to go to college,they wanted me to get a job, and
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they wanted me to make a ton ofmoney.
So if it wasn't a lawyer or adoctor, really the only thing
that my mom would accept wasengineering.
Now, mind you, I should have hadthe guts to change my major, or
I should have had the guts tosay, you know what, this is my
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life and my future, and I haveto do something that I'm
interested in.
And what screwed me up big timewas that I was smart enough to
do engineering.
I wasn't great at it, but Icould get by.
So talk about a slice of humblepie because I graduated in close
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to the top of my high schoolclass.
And then go to college, andeveryone at college is a
valedictorian or a salutatorianor is in the top percentages of
their graduating class.
That's the whole bunch.
So now you're a little fish in abig pond, and your grades suck,
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and you're just getting by whenyou used to be a straight A
student.
But the thing that was so hardwas that I also felt like a
failure emotionally at homebecause all of the ideas that I
had, I either had to keep themto myself or push them down or
suppress them or keep themtucked away.
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Because in my mind, I couldn'tmake the distinction between my
proposed ideas not being goodenough for my mom versus me
being good enough for my mom.
And that was super tough.
The delivery, the harshness, thejudgment.
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It just felt like doors werealways closing whenever I would
try to open them up to haveconversations.
And I think that there was justalways a lot of tension between
her and I because of my earlychildhood when I didn't spend a
lot of time with her from theage of around four until I was
about nine or ten, I didn't seemy mom that much.
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So there was always this sort ofinternal struggle in our
relationship because it was likethe elephant in the room.
But what happens when you'recarrying something around
internally and it has no placeto go?
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It starts to consume you, right?
This pressure that just becamelouder, like a critic in my
head, or just like a voice andit had no outlet, nowhere to go.
Now I started working outtowards the end of high school.
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I I didn't do it consistentlyjust because it really wasn't a
priority the first year or two.
I was freshman in college, justgetting my footing.
My academics, like I said, werenot that amazing.
So I had to do what I could withwhat I had available to me.
And I think through most of myfreshman year, I might have gone
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to the gym once a week, maybetwice.
Not enough for me, but it wasall I could do.
And eventually I started to seea return on my investment and I
started to carve out more timefor the gym.
I started to notice that mymental health was in much better
place at the end of eachworkout.
And I made better choices as faras what I was going to eat in
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the dining hall.
I slept better.
The stress and the pressurenever went anywhere.
That was still there.
But I noticed these smallpositive benefits from my
routine.
So I started to prioritize thegym a little bit more.
But then something elsehappened.
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I started to punish myself bygoing heavier in the gym.
So first, this thing that Ifound that became a relief kind
of morphed into another way forme to beat myself up, for me to
tell myself I wasn't goodenough, for me to stare at my
reflection and compare myself towomen in the fitness magazines,
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or to, you know, the models inthe posters on the wall in the
gym, or the other girls who seemto have it all, you know, have
the car in the sorority, the hotboyfriend, and they have the
six-pack, they have an easymajor.
Life is good.
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And I'm over here like, yeah,this isn't cutting it for me.
I gotta push myself harder.
I'm not doing enough.
And I started to develop stufflike stomach issues, thinning
hair, anxiety, biting my nails.
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Now people did know I was underan enormous amount of pressure,
the people around me.
I wasn't necessarily good atarticulating what was wrong.
I just struggled and I cried alot.
I always leaned or fell back onthe fact that, you know, I hated
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my major and my parents wereforcing me to do something I
didn't want to do, and it's mylife, and I felt like I had no
control.
And then I also missed my dad.
I also missed my baby brotherwho was born my senior year, so
he was, you know, like a toddlerwhen I left to go to college.
And I just kept moving.
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I just kept going to class, Ikept going to the gym, I kept
punishing myself.
And then eventually I started toslow down a little bit.
I realized throughout the thelater years of college that we
were getting close to the end.
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And if I could just make it onemore day, if I could just get
through this class, if I couldjust get through this exam, if I
could just get through thisproject, if I could just get to
the next break, and then I couldgo home and be at home for a
little bit.
It was a lot.
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I mean, my hands are shakingactually as I'm talking because
I kind of forgot how muchpressure I used to put on
myself.
But what does that mean?
So now as I'm sharing all ofthis with you, maybe you
recognized little pieces ofyourself in my story.
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And I wanna I want you to knowif you're if you're feeling
pressure about something, thatmeans it's important, that means
it matters to you, that meansit's worth doing, that means
there's high stakes.
It's not random, and it's notnecessarily all bad.
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Once I graduated from college,and by the way, I barely, barely
graduated.
I mean, oh my goodness.
So I took all these elections,it's a total sidebar.
Here we go.
The Tiana sidebar, part one.
I took all these electives,right?
My freshman year, I took a classcalled History of the Future,
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which is kind of scary becausesome of the stuff we talked
about, I am actually witnessinghappen.
I took a sex education class,which was a total elective, my
junior year.
It was uh really more of aphilosophy class, and it was
fucking amazing.
I took a biology class.
I loved all of my electives.
I love all of these artisticelective courses, and I thought
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that if I did well in those, itwould help bring my GPA up.
What I did not know until theend of my senior year, pretty
close to graduation, was whenthey do the GPA for your major
in order to make sure you cangraduate, all of those elective
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classes don't count.
They're not included.
It's only the core curriculum.
So I was sweating.
My parents came for graduationweekend.
There were so many differentceremonies and events, and I
walked, I had my cap and gown,and truth be told, I did not
know if I actually graduated ornot.
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I went through the whole thing,did the whole song and dance.
And in the back of my head, I'mlike, fuck.
I hope I made it.
I made it barely, barely,barely.
Barely, barely just made it, butI made it.
There was somebody looking outfor me, I gotta tell you.
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So when you're having a momentof feeling this kind of
pressure, it tells you threethings.
One, you care about the outcome.
If you didn't care about theoutcome, there would be nothing
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to feel.
The this pressure that you'refeeling is evidence that you're
invested.
Two, it tells you that you'reclose to something that is
requiring more of you.
It's uncomfortable, but that'snot a sign to stop.
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It's a sign that you are beingstretched and that you need to
grow.
That's a good thing.
And three that you haven't quityet.
Because if you've already givenup on the idea, you wouldn't
feel that pressure.
They feel relief or they mightfeel emptiness, but they're not
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gonna feel that kind ofpressure.
So what's important for me tomention here in this
conversation is there's adifference between pressure
being productive versusdestructive.
When it's productive, it's gonnapush you forward.
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It'll come from your standards.
It'll come from you knowingyourself.
It'll come from being sogrounded in your beliefs and in
your own capacity that it'llchallenge you.
Destructive pressure is gonnafeel like tearing you down.
It's gonna come from somethingyou fear or something you are
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trying to control or somethingyou haven't processed, or some
sort of unreasonableexpectation, or something
reminiscent of something thatsomeone told you when you were a
child that you you couldn't meetup to.
Destructive pressure tells youthat your instincts are wrong.
It makes you feel small.
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It makes you want to recluse, itwants you to pull in and
contract.
And the work is learning how totell the difference and figuring
out what to do with eachsensation or each kind of
pressure that you feel.
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Because not all of this pressureis created equal.
Now, up until this point, I'vejust shared with you how I have
tortured myself, how I've beatenmyself up, and how I created all
sorts of anxiety-riddledsituations for myself.
But I have not shared with youyet how I changed that.
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And it started with the innerwork, with the self-talk, with
realizing that the pressure Iwas feeling had shifted at some
point in my adult life fromthings I was actually hearing my
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parents say to me, specificallymy mom say to me, and how it
shifted into the inner narrativethat I was telling myself.
And I vividly remember um theearly years of my career were
incredibly hard.
Um, so I graduated college in2000 and I was working, uh, I
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was bartending on the side tomake extra money.
And then I had an apartment.
I had a boyfriend that livedwith me temporarily.
I kicked him out for manyreasons.
And my dad moved in.
I was helping my dad get on hisfeet.
He was on parole.
So my expenses were very high.
And I was living outside mymeans.
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I was, you know, burning up mycredit cards and feeling all
sorts of stress.
Eventually, I moved out of thatapartment, left my dad behind
again for various reasons.
And I was living in a very cutelittle one-bedroom a little
further north, closer to where Ilived when I was in high school,
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actually.
And I didn't have much.
And I remember I was stillpaying off my student loans from
college and a car note and abunch of other things.
And things were so intense atone point in time that it was
kind of like, well, I'm gonnapay these bills late, and then
I'm gonna pay these bills reallylate.
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And back in the day, we wouldget these like pink envelopes
from the insurance company whenyour bill was was past due.
And stupid me, I didn't know atthe time that, you know, once it
was past due, like you you'renot really fully covered.
Uh not, I don't know if thatwould have changed how I handled
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it, because if you don't got it,you don't got it, right?
But I remember I had these pilesof like bills, like, okay, well,
these are gonna get paid soon,these are gonna get paid a
little bit later, and and so onand so forth.
And really having this talk withmyself, like, all right, girl,
what are we doing here?
We either need to make moremoney, we need to find a better
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job, we need to stop settlingfor less.
We need to learn how tonegotiate.
And I discovered the secret.
And it helped me a lot.
It changed my perspective.
Now, I will tell you in thebeginning, if you are not
familiar with the law ofattraction in the beginning, it
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feels like a lie.
It feels like you'rebullshitting yourself, it feels
like you're living in a delusionbecause reality is what you see.
And until you take radicalresponsibility, you don't
realize that your reality isjust a mirror reflecting back to
you how you feel about yourselfand who you are, not what you
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want.
The secret teaches that you getwhat you want.
No, not exactly.
You attract on a vibrationallevel what you feel you are
worth.
So for me, this was a tug of warfor years because I always felt
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like I was not enough.
Well, guess what?
If you feel like you're notenough, how much are you gonna
have?
Not enough.
But I also realized that the wayI was treating myself in the gym
was not conducive to long-termhealth and longevity, even
though that's how I am maskedit.
That's what I called it.
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So I slowed down with that.
I recalibrated everything I wasdoing.
I started to look at the waythat I was fueling my body, how
I was treating myself, how I wasbrainwashed into feeling like I
had to be productive all thetime.
Because if I slowed down, whatwas gonna happen?
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And I remember at a point intime, I worked full-time during
the week.
I had one bartending job onThursday night and Saturday
night, had another bartendingjob on Friday night, and then I
usually would go dancing for afew hours on Sunday morning.
I would give myself that littlepermission slip to have fun, uh,
typically involvingextracurricular activities.
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Not proud of that, but that'sthe truth.
And then I would go home andsleep all day Sunday, only to
repeat the whole vicious cycleon Monday.
And I had to really step backfrom all of it.
I had to shift how I wastreating myself in the gym.
I had to change how I wasshowing up to work.
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I had to just change the thingsI was doing and the way that I
was speaking to myself and allof that.
And let me tell you, it was noteasy.
It took a long time, it took alot longer than I wanted it to.
But when you are unprogrammingyourself and shifting things,
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you have to be kind.
You have to be nice to yourself,you have to be graceful.
And so I have taken all of theseexperiences and now I
incorporate it into my coachingstyle.
Because a lot of times I see myclients, I know their situation
better than they know it.
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I pick up nuanced things inbetween what they're saying, the
way they're saying it, theenergy in which they say it,
what they're not telling me.
And I know how to work aroundthat.
I know how to help them.
At some point, we have to stoplooking at the gym as
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punishment, as penalty.
At some point, you have to moveon from the way things used to
be to create a better future foryourself.
At some point, you have to askyourself if the way that you're
talking to yourself and thethings that you're constantly
thinking, are those true?
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Or are those just feelings thatyou have felt and thoughts that
you have thought, and you'vebeen doing them and living in
those places for so long thatyou believe them to be true, but
you actually don't know if theyare in fact true.
SPEAKER_01 (31:50):
What?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (31:57):
So the next time
that you are feeling all sorts
of pressure in your life, you'restarting to feel anxious.
I want you to ask yourself,whose voice has been setting
your standard?
And is that someone you actuallywant to be accountable to?
Second question Where in yourlife are you applying pressure
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that you are punishing yourselfas opposed to building yourself
up?
And three, what would it looklike if you were to carry the
pressure you're under right nowas a sign of your capacity and
your ability rather thaninadequacy?
Think about that.
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I know this conversation may beheavy for some of you, but this
is the kind of thinking I do allday long.
I have been told my whole lifeI'm too intense.
I don't give a fuck.
Yes, I am intense.
I feel on such an insanely deeplevel that I feel badly for
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people who don't have thecapacity to feel it, the
capacity that I can feel becauseit's amazing.
It's extremely painful too, butit's also so beautiful.
SPEAKER_01 (33:19):
So I want you to
slow down.
SPEAKER_00 (33:22):
I want you to
remember that the person who has
learned to carry pressure withintention and with
self-awareness is the mostpowerful person in any room
because they see pressure as aprivilege.
They won't panic because they'vekind of been preparing for it
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their whole life.
So, what are you gonna do withthat excess weight?
What are you gonna do with thestuff you're carrying around
right now?
How are you going to move thatenergy?
Maybe it's through working out,maybe it's through strength
training.
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That's a good place to start.
Now, if you are thinking toyourself, I don't know, I don't
know how to even begin lookingat this stuff and carrying, you
know, what do you mean carryingthis pressure?
Okay, let's let's back it up alittle bit.
The next time you find yourselfthinking a negative thought or
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beating yourself up aboutsomething because you feel like
you're not good enough, I wantyou to slow down and ask
yourself, is that something thatyou truly believe, or is that
something that you believebecause you have heard it from
someone else who cares about youfor a long time?
And it's recurred over and overand over again.
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If you're not already workingout, what are you doing?
Let's go get to the gym.
It's a perfect way to move thatenergy.
So I know this conversation washeavy, but it's something that's
been top of mind.
And it's something that Ithought about a lot today as I
was reflecting on theconversation I had with my
client on the squat rack abouthow amazing I think it is that
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at 15 years old I was movingaround a hospital in New York
City by myself, going in and outof, you know, these
high-pressure areas, sitting atround tables with these
oncologists and researchers,reading medical journals.
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What?
15 years old.
I don't know.
I don't know if they even stillhave that program, to be honest.
It would be amazing if they did.
But I want you to remember,you're not under pressure
because you're failing.
You're under pressure becausemaybe you're being asked to do
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something that's stretching you.
And that's not a crisis, that'sactually an invitation.
If you want to hang out with me,you can follow along on my
journey on Instagram, Substack,and you can also check out the
new strength training programthat I have released called Lift
Like You Mean It.
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It is available for purchasenow.
And if you want to share alittle bit with me about what
you're currently working on, youcan send me a DM on Instagram.
Again, check the show notes forall the links to stay in contact
with me.
And if you found this episodehelpful, please do me a favor,
share it with a friend.
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That is the best way for me togrow the show, is by getting
into the ears of new listeners.
I appreciate your time andattention as always, and I
appreciate you showing up foryourself.
I'll see you on the next one.