Unsolicited Response Podcast

Unsolicited Response Podcast

Dale Peterson interviews guests who are pushing and prodding the ICS community to improve cyber security, as well as those in related fields with innovative ideas the ICS community should consider. Dale began his career as a NSA Cryptanalyst, has been securing ICS for over 15 years, and is the founder and program chair of the S4 Conference.... Show More
May 14, 2019 38 min

This recording is from a panel discussion on understanding and reducing the consequence side of the risk equation (risk = consequence * likelihood). Joining me in this discussion are:

  • John Cusimano of aeSolutions and their CyberPHA
  • Andy Bochman of INL and their Consequence Driven Cyber Informed Engineering (CCE)
  • The two gentleman begin by explaining their respective consequence based risk assessment and risk management, and the diagrams they refer to are below.

    INL CCE Approach In One Slide

    aeSolutions CyberPHA Approach In One Slide

    After the initial descriptions we discuss:

  • how the two approaches are similar and different?
  • how long it takes to perform a CCE or CyberPHA?
  • what are some of the novel consequence reduction solutions?
  • the difference between disruption and destruction as a consequence?
  • will the CyberPHA be integrated into the PHA?
  • Links

  • aeSolutions CyberPHA
  • INL CCE
  • OnRamp Online
  • This episode was sponsored by CyberX. Founded by military cyber experts with nation-state expertise defending critical infrastructure, CyberX has developed an end-to-end platform for continuous ICS threat monitoring and risk mitigation.

    Check out the 2019 CyberX GlobaICS and IIoT Risk Reportthe CyberX report on the NIS Directive, and my podcast from last year on the report with Phil Neray.

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