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And then told Moses to raise up the pole and put the snake on
it, and those who looked at it would be healed.
Now, later we find out that Israel began to worship the
snake on the pole. And that snake on the pole is a
spirit by the name of Nehushtan.So actually, what they do in the
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system is they will, you know, literally have a snake up their
arm. They'll take the head up here
and hold it by the head with it wrapped around, and that becomes
the sign of power and authority.And so they'll enter in in that
sign. So the same thing with some of
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the other things. You get one of the books that is
just a reflection book in the system, but it also has a lot of
the words, a lot of the different symbols that you're
going to see, including the Lotus symbol is an issue.
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Aloha, and welcome to another show, guys.
Today I'm joined once again by my special guest and friend,
Jesse Saboter, and we're diving into a powerful conversation on
Kundalini yoga and their spiritual implication.
Now, this isn't your typical Wellness chat.
Jesse shares deep insights on how certain practices can serve
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as gateways not always to enlightenment, but to influence
control and even in deception. So we explore what kundalini
truly is from her perspective and how it's used within certain
occult systems, and the hidden risk behind what many sees as
harmless or healing routines. So if you ever practice yoga or
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explored energy work, this episode is going to challenge
you to rethink what you've been told and bring discernment into
your spiritual journey. Now, please don't forget to
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Donations are welcome there or through Buy Me a Coffee.
Quick heads up guys, sorry aboutthe video quality on this one.
I was in Florida at the time of recording this and I did not
have any Internet where I was staying.
So I'm at a Starbucks. So you may see or hear a bit of
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activity in the background. So I'm really sorry about that.
So, but now let's welcome Jesse to the conversation and enjoy
the show. Jesse and welcome back to the
show. I'm so glad to have you here
again. Today we're going to dive into a
topic that's become, I think, incredibly popular in Wellness
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and spiritual circles. Kundalini energy and yoga.
Well, I think many see these practices as paths to
enlightenment and healing. Others weren't of hidden
dangers, spiritual maybe spiritual attachments and even
deeper agendas that most never hear about.
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South Jesse. Your insight as a survivor and
someone who's walked. Through the darkest.
Corners of Spiritual Warfare brings a perspective that's I
guess not only rare but necessary.
So I'm really looking forward tounpacking these this
conversation with you and givingtheir listeners a fuller
understanding about this. Yeah, definitely.
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So I think where it's good to start is to, you know, we've in
past shows, we've talked about the system, we've talked about
how this Luciferian brotherhood has a dark side as well as a
light side. The core of both sides are
different forms of magic. And what magic is, is it's
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entangling with energy or with asource other than God.
So, you know, we know that everything in creation was
created by God. It it came forth from the breath
of his mouth. He literally spoke it into
being. And you know, magic is is just
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that, you know, it's it's speaking forth things that are
to go forth and and do whatever is intended, whether that's
negative or positive. So the first thing with
Kundalini is to understand that this is not a Christian thing.
This is not of God. What is it connected to?
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It actually is connected to Serpentine spirits.
You have Serpentine spirits, whether fire or water, their
purpose is to go forth and to tomimic basically the voice of
God. And that can be mimicked in
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several ways which we're going to get into.
So, you know, there definitely are spirits connected to
Kundalini. A lot of the things that you're
going to see in kundalini connect to high level Kabbalah.
You know, in fact, you know, a lot of the base studies for the
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many of the practitioners who are either teaching kundalini
or, you know, drawing mass crowds in a lot of their
knowledge and information is going to come from studying the,
you know, what's considered the angelic realm, the Seraphim
realm. Many of them are going to have
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their knowledge from Kabbalah, abook called Kabbalah of the
Golden Dawn. And in that book, you know, it
gets into the Kabbalah tree, theconnection to that tree, which
they'll call the tree of life toprincipalities, powers,
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different seraphim, the connection of those seraphim to
what they're going to consider humanitarian efforts or good
energy. And, you know, different forms
of light would be another way that they're going to put it is
that really they're just light workers.
They're learning to move with different lights.
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And all of this, you know, Kundalini really came into the
church through the light side ofthe system, high level
Kabbalists, which we'll get intoin a moment.
And its purpose was to bring forth a high level of Kabbalah
operating within the church under a form of godliness.
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And, you know, that's kind of become the enemy's slogan.
You know, that form of godliness.
And in fact, you know, it's beendeclared by Constantine himself
In this, you know, in this sign we shall conquer.
That's when the brotherhood and the sovereign military really
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began to take the different signs, symbols, things that
represented Christ and the church and began to connect it
to a form of godliness that presents itself as godliness.
But really it's not godliness. That form of godliness attacks
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three major areas. And so, you know, when we're
looking at things and we want tobe able to discern, you know, is
this the real deal or is this a form of godliness?
These are kind of the three measures we have to look at
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because kundalini is going to come in the form of a false
gospel. It'll come in the form of a
false Christ and the form of a false Holy Spirit.
So we're going to kind of unpackthose a little bit further here.
So for a false gospel, you know,what does that mean?
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Well, we know what Scripture says about about the gospel.
You know, it says all have sinned and fall short of the
glory of God. In Romans 623, Romans 323, you
know, we learned that that thereis a wage that has to be paid
for our sin. Why?
Because God is holy and he can'thave sin with Him.
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You know, we see all throughout Scripture this concept that you
have God and you have the true Messiah, Jesus Christ, who came,
you know, but yet was sinless. He came in the flesh but did not
sin because what was at the coreof his heart, it was to do with
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the Father's will to be obedientto God even unto death.
And you know, Scripture says that maybe for a good man,
somebody would be willing to die, but who's really willing to
die for the worst of the worst sinners?
You know, no human is willing todo that.
Yet that's what Jesus did. He became the sacrifice for the
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sins of all mankind and bore that wrath of God.
Because it wasn't just, you know, that he's taken on the
sins, it's that he, you know, literally he took that wrath of
God for us and bore that wrath, meaning that the there came that
moment where the Father turned his face away.
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The Father, you know, literally turned his face away.
And we see that at the cross, you know, where Jesus cries out
right before his last breath. You know, Father, Father, why
have you forsaken me? You know, that's the moment the
Father turned his face away. And then we see, you know, him
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taking on that fullness of death, not just a physical
death, but there was an aspect of a spiritual death with that.
Because you have a separation between the Father and the Son
where the Father turns his face away and you know what happens
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next. You know, that wasn't the end.
We see the fulfillment of God's word that, you know, he promised
he would provide his own sacrifice.
He said that to Abraham, you know, when he commanded him to
take his son Isaac, Abraham in his obedience was going to do
it. And why did the Lord allow, not
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allow that to be fulfilled? It's because Isaac could have
never fulfilled the promises of God because he wasn't the son of
God. He was fully a human.
And so that's when the Lord, youknow, stopped Abraham and said,
no, I shall provide the lamb. I shall provide the sacrifice.
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So we see that that promise of the Messiah fulfilled in Jesus
Christ. And here's where the false
gospel comes in. The first thing you know, and
they're very good. You know, you're going to have
high level priestesses in the system who are going to get into
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the church and you know, they'regoing to still teach about
Jesus. They're going to teach that God
is love. They're going to teach that you
can be saved, that you have to confess your sins.
But then you get into, you know,that moment, you know, children
are led to Christ, they believe they receive.
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And then the abuse start where you know, the fear that oh,
well, you know, look at that, you lied.
Now they're sick. And what does Scripture say
about sin? And they begin to pull in the
letter of the law. You know God cannot have
anything evil with him. Now you know they'll go over and
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over. You know, liars don't get into
heaven. The sexually immoral don't get
into heaven. And even though they're
repeating the exact words out ofScripture, it's not coming
through the power of the Holy Spirit, you know, it's coming
through that form of godliness. It is meant to cause fear, to
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cause guilt and shame, and to condemn.
Now there's a difference. You know, how does the Holy
Spirit operate in our salvation?It's through conviction.
You know, the truth is, is that all of us fall short of the
glory of God, which is why salvation is a progressive
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effort. You know, that's why it says you
have to work through your salvation.
It's because, you know, as we come into that relationship,
we're saved, We're sealed through the death of Christ.
And what does it say in Romans 6?
It says that we have died with Christ and been raised into new
life with him. But in that, you know, then
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they'll bring in the gospel of works that you know, you have to
earn it. You've messed up.
Now you have to, you know, you've lost your salvation.
Like you don't know if you're going to get into heaven or not.
You know, there's no way they teach that, you know, you can't
be sure of your salvation. And that fear causes people to
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get into this cycle of perfectionism.
And that's the purpose of condemnation versus conviction.
You know, the Holy Spirit says, hey, you've sinned.
This has made me unhappy. And what is Scripture saying?
First, John 19 If we confess oursins, he is faithful and just to
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forgive us and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
You know, that's his work. And so what's supposed to happen
is when the Holy Spirit makes our sin known to us, convicts us
of it, it's to lead us to that place of confession, repenting,
cleansing, and then he restores us to a position of
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righteousness before him. That's how it's supposed to
work. And with that, you know, when
you look at the Old Testament, there were visual signs of that
process. You know, people that were
unclean and had issues of uncleanness were cast outside of
the main, you know, the main community.
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They had to go outside for sevendays.
They had to cleanse and then they had to come back to the
priest and, you know, they were to be examined and then they
would be brought back in. And with that, you know, all of
the stigma that went with them being cast out was was erased.
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You know, they were brought backin.
They were able to have their livelihood, have their
fellowship, go before the Lord. But with that form of godliness,
that's part of the stigma. No matter what you do, you know,
you can never attain being perfect.
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You know, you know, most of whatthey teach, it gets into the
gospel of works that you have todo, do, do, earn, earn, earn.
You know, if you send, oh, well,now you need to spend more time
reading Scripture. You need to spend more time in
prayer. You need to spend more time in
worship and fellowship. More, more, more, do, do, do.
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And the whole time you're like, OK, but I don't even hear God's
voice. I'm not even feeling or sensing
God's presence. Well, why is that?
It's because you're doing you'renot being in a relationship with
God. You're doing and in that you
expect God to be pleased with you.
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Look at all I do God. Look at how many hours I spend
in prayer. Look at how much time I do this
or that, you know, and and that's where you know, in
Scripture the Lord says, you know, not everybody who says
Lord, Lord will be saved. You know why?
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Because you've got those that really don't have a relationship
with God. They never even give the Lord a
chance to speak. It's all I got to do, do do this
in order to earn, in order to know for sure I'm going to be
saved. And they force people to be in
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this state of a false gospel where all the measures are based
on your works and what you do and rather than really being in
that relationship with God. So go ahead, I.
Was going to say, a lot of people don't even know that they
are not being or walking with God.
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They, they, they think that theyare doing something good,
they're doing something spiritual.
So they don't know that they maybe invoking something else.
So many describe this serpent awakening in a kundalini
practice. Is there a significance of that
symbolism or or what are they really truly invoking?
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When they Yeah, I I fully believe so.
You know, and part of that is there, you know, you're being
connected to a source other thanpriced.
Often times it's seen as entering in through the naval or
through another chakra area. You know, there's like a falling
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or a coming upon, even to the extent like some of the really,
you know, really charlatan kundalini, individuals are able
to mimic it, make it feel like it's that Holy Spirit or like
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it's an Angel, Make people feel like the presence of God has
come down. And at times they are able to
produce, you know, signs and wonders, you know, gold flakes
falling down. People will see rainbow colors.
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And, you know, that's described in revelations that the throne
of God, the Holy Spirit has color.
Now, I'm not saying that that that's wrong if you're seeing
that, but they'll utilize that in the kundalini magic.
So it can be hard to discern. And you know, what's the measure
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that we've got to weigh it against?
You know, is the spirit like when we're hearing these things
or experiencing these things, you know, is it just that form
of godliness or is it drawing usinto that real relationship with
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God? And that's going to be grounded
in the word and always measured against the Word, but not.
The word is in the letter of thelaw.
That's a religious spirit where you know, like it just it'll
give you all these verses about whatever topic you're looking
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at. But where it lacks is there's
not the life application. There's not really, you know,
how do you put it into practice?And at the end of the day, who
gets the glory for it? If it's pushing you towards
something and you're like, you know, look what I've done or I
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know I'm doing God's will because here's his word and
that's exactly what I'm doing. If that's kind of where your
stance is, what's at the core ofthat?
It's I look what I am doing versus when the real presence of
God is moving, you're like, Oh my gosh, guess what the Lord
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said to me, you know, guess whatthe Lord did, you know, the
focus is the Lord, like you're not even in the equation.
You're like, this is what the Lord said to me, you know, And
so there's a huge difference in,you know, that that false gospel
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versus the real gospel, that thereal gospel.
So here's the other difference in it is like, you know, I
remember it's like way back in the past, I had a client I was
helping and spent hours cleaningher house for her.
And every day at a certain time,she would watch Joel Osteen and
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I'd be hearing his sermons and I'd be like, man, I know this
guy is false. You know, I know this guy is
false. Yet as I'm listening, it's like,
man, like he's saying stuff right out of Scripture.
And it's like, Lord, show me. I'm like, I know there's a fine
line, but even I can't even detect what is that fine line,
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you know, So I was like, Lord, show me because he'd talk about
Jesus. He would talk about how to come
into that relationship, right? He'd talk about, you know, death
and receiving Christ and all this.
But finally the one day the Lordshowed me and it was interesting
because you'll see even in the Catholic churches, you'll see a
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lot of focus on the death and the death of the flesh.
But all of a sudden it was like,Oh my goodness, they never speak
about the resurrected life. They never share that that's
Christ's work, that we've died with Christ.
We've been raised into a new life.
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And they never get into the point of actually just living in
Christ. Like, you know, what happens
after we receive Christ, you know, and how come nobody
teaches us how to just live likeit's all, you know, put to
death, put to death, put to death.
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Why am I always focused on my sin?
If if all of that has already been put to death by Christ, you
know, so they never get into theinto the the truth, the fullness
of the gospel, which is, you know, the death and the new life
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that we have in Christ that we are in Christ.
And that gets into the next thing where you know, they teach
a false Christ. Many times you'll see a special
like in the Jesuit Catholic churches.
And Kundalini is not just in your newer churches, it's even
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in your Jesuit Catholic churches.
It stretches across all departments, the Mormons, the
Masons. You get a lot of your Eastern *
priestesses, which are the female branch of the Masons
connected to your Jesuit Catholic churches.
And you'll see their imagery. They'll always have the cross.
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And in the Jesuit Catholic churches, you'll see Christ
still on the cross or you'll seelike a, you know, like a mantle
or a scarf that's meant to, you know, represent the arms being
stretched out on on the cross. And with that, you know, you get
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all this false, this false imagery of Christ, but it
literally comes out of their book Kabbalah of the Golden
Dawn. You have this image of the
Kabbalah ladder in that you see at the very base you see
Leviathan and representing the Serpentine spirit.
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Above that you see standing a woman, and then above the woman
you see the man with his arms outstretched to two colonnades
representing a man on the cross.And then all of that leads to
the full ascension of their godhood.
So that imagery of Christ on thecross actually is part of that
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their Kabbalah beliefs that they're in this place position
of ascending into the light as gods.
And so you're going to see that where you know, either Christ is
on the cross or they're constantly talking about crucify
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the flesh, crucify the flesh. Well, why is that?
You know, it's so that you can attain the measure rather than
you know, that receiving that wealready have been given the full
measure by Christ. So what measure are we
receiving? That needs to be a question.
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So you know, then it that leads to the third part, which is the
greatest measure they want us toreceive, and that's the false
Holy Spirit. And in that, you know, that
leads to them pushing things like tongues that them pushing
things like being able to move energy.
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You know, there being signs and miracles that come when you do
healings. And with that, you know, there's
a push that only those who have the Holy Spirit, you have to
receive the Holy Spirit in orderto have the gifts.
And if you don't have the, the gifts or the, you know, the sign
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that you have the Holy Spirit, if you don't have the gifts,
well, then you haven't really been filled with the Holy Spirit
yet. Therefore, you know, they're
going to put you through all these classes, all these things
where you have to keep trying toreceive that Holy Spirit and you
know, so that's huge because youknow, and they'll claim it's
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scriptural that you have to, youknow, which scripture does say
that, you know, tongues is that sign of the Holy Spirit.
But they get into pushing where it's a gift that only select
people have it. You know, they don't.
And that then makes people who feel like, you know, when they
don't have that gift, they're like, am I not chosen?
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Like not only do I not have gifts, but I don't have the Holy
Spirit. And what it really does is it
stops up the going forth of the good works that we have the full
authority in Christ to do. And that's where you know really
the false Holy Spirit strips of strips us of the authority that
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we have in Christ. What is the Great Commission?
It says go heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers,
cast out the demons. Greater miracles you shall do
right. We have the authority to do the
greater than these miracles. Where does that authority come
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from? It comes through Christ.
And how do we begin to exercise that authority?
It comes out of that relationship.
It's not even something that youhave to do.
It's just, you know, as you spend time before the Lord and,
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and we'll get into this in a second here, the difference.
But as you spend time with the Lord, the Holy Spirit moves
like, you know, you don't have to pray or say certain words or
be in a certain position or, youknow, it's like there's a
ministry that happens. I wouldn't have had the words to
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explain it until I witnessed it one time in a vision.
I, you know, I've seen the healing pools in heaven many
times, but one of my visions, I saw Raphael standing up in the
healing pools and they flow. They're connected to the waters
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that flow out of the eastern gate.
And that's where, you know, in Scripture it talks about in
Revelations that the water goes down, it goes into a valley.
And along that waterway, that stream that flows, you have the
oaks of righteousness. Hey Ohana, I hope you're loving
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Now back to the show. Looks of righteousness.
So as I was, you know, standing there, I see Raphael standing in
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the pool of water and all of a sudden he had these two worship
flags and he just began to worship before the Lord.
And it was so beautiful. And as he worshipped before the
Lord, I saw the water went up and started flowing out.
It started, you know, being dispersed out.
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And I was like, huh, That's how the waters are stirred.
Literally all the angels are doing is, is praising,
worshipping, dancing before the Lord.
Like there isn't anything that they're doing on their own.
You know, they're not sitting there thinking, I've got to pray
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for this person's healing. I've got to have enough faith or
belief. Like they're just ministering
before the Lord and all of a sudden the authority comes, the
Holy Spirit falls, and in that moment the healing goes forth
and it's done. The work is done.
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There isn't anything that they particularly have done.
It's the Spirit of God that doesit and it comes out of that
ministry before the Lord. And so you know, you look at.
Like you. Know I know for myself
personally, you know what I've seen in some churches, you know
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where they're going to call everybody to the front, they're
gonna put their hands on you. This right here is a telltale
sign of kundalini. Or when they put the hand on
your stomach because they're purposely taking authority.
It's like a seal over, you know,an area of authority where your
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soul, your pineal gland is so they take that authority.
Like when I anoint people, I'll just do like a little spot up
here because I'm not, I'm not, you know, I never will pray for
somebody like this. I'll just put a hand on the
shoulder, but they'll put it either, you know, there or
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they'll hit that stomach area where you have a chakra or the
back right behind that, sometimes both.
And they do that to take, you know, it's like a power energy
move. They're going to see if they can
get a access point in. Now I have had people do that to
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me and I think they expected to all of a sudden have me fall on
the ground and to have that authority.
But that's not what happened. Why?
Because I put on my armor every day, my spiritual armor and my
belt of truth was there and it was like they went in for their
power moves and it was like LordJesus and nothing happened.
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You know, I just stood there praising the Lord, thanking the
Lord, and they were like, huh, you know, So there was nothing
that they could do. There was no authority that they
could take because I was standing in my authority in the
Lord. So, you know, others, you know,
they're going to pray for that spirit to fall on people to
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come. They're going to say receive it.
I've seen literally, you know, one time a guy like, you know,
this woman, I really thought shewas a godly woman.
She actually was quite, you know, beautiful older woman.
She had a lot of spiritual authority.
She had done a special conference on a weekend when I
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was hoping, you know, it's like,oh, man, I'm sad I had to miss
that 'cause I really, you know, had, like, some of the things
that she was saying. But as I was in church that
Sunday, she asked people to comeforward and share about what
they had experienced at the event.
And she taught, kept saying, youknow, there was a huge movement
of the Holy Spirit. New people had received the Holy
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Spirit, including this one oldergentleman.
Well, as he got up there to speak, all of a sudden he
collapsed and began convulsing. And I was like, huh, Like there
was something in it. And as he's doing that, her
words were, it's OK, let the Holy Spirit come on you.
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And I was sitting there like, this is not the Holy Spirit
like, Lord, is this you? Like this does not seem like
you. And the Lord told me to hold up
my hand and to just simply say peace be still.
So I did. I at first I said it very
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quietly under my breath. And all of a sudden he
completely stopped convulsing. And she was like, let the Spirit
come. Let the Spirit of God come on
you and she. He started it up again and that
time a little bit louder. I said peace be still.
And he dead stopped. They couldn't get him going
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again and they ended up having to escort him out of the church.
And that's when I knew I was like, OK, she's dealing in a
false spirit. That's not the spirit of God.
And what she did next as they left had that man leave.
She called for all the children to come up to the front.
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Now that day the Lord had me sitbehind this 7 year old little
boy and the Lord said where whenhe goes up, you go up too.
And it was like, OK, so as he went up, I literally just went
and stood behind him. Now she started, you know,
pushing on everybody's heads. Everybody's falling down,
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looking like they're slaying in the spirit.
The only two who weren't. And it wasn't.
I didn't even fight it. I was like, Lord, if you want me
to go down, I'll go down. You know, it's like I'm just
here. But it was funny.
She literally passed over us, didn't even touch our heads.
She literally passed over and wewere the only two left standing.
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And I was just like, OK, Lord. And yeah, So it was really
interesting. And that was kind of my last
time at that church. But it you know it.
Can display itself in so many ways.
You know, and I can't reiterate,they really use scripture, You
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know, they know how to wield scripture and they know how to
wield it as a weapon against you.
And it will always come with that condemnation, that guilt,
that shame, that measure of perfectionism that you can never
measure up to. That's not freedom in Christ.
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That's not the power of the HolySpirit.
We have the fullness of Christ, which is what it is.
The Holy Spirit, that's the fullness of Christ, is being
filled with the Holy Spirit, knowing the Lord's will and
being able to do the Lord's will.
We have that, and we don't have to do anything to earn it.
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The Lord gives that freely because His desire is that we
know Him. I have a.
Question, do the physical poses themselves that people do like,
I don't know, salutation, I I don't know any of those poses,
downward dog, whatever, Yeah. Oh, you cut out just a little
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bit there. Do you mind repeating the
question quick? I heard the sure poses do the
poses that they do do the poses that.
They do like the downward dog orsun salutations.
All of all of those poses, are they acts as like a form of
ritual or spiritual contracts? I believe a lot of them are
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spiritual contracts and it is a way of invoking or summoning the
spirits that they're contracted with.
For example, like in the, you know, in the Mormon temples, you
get it in the Baptist churches as well, they're always going to
be talking about the sign of Elijah.
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They'll talk about Elijah the prophet and about, you know,
his, his authority to work miracles to, you know, have
things happen. And you'll see these images and
these signs like where, you know, they'll literally have
Elijah with his hand like this. And what that is, is it actually
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represents the story of, you know, when Israel had sinned,
the Lord sent serpents to bite them, poisonous snakes, and then
told Moses to raise up the pole and put the snake on it.
And those who looked at it wouldbe healed.
Now, later we find out that Israel began to worship the
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snake on the pole. And that snake on the pole is a
spirit by the name of Nahushan. So actually what they do in the
system is they will, you know, literally have a snake up their
arm. They'll take the head up here
and hold it by the head with it wrapped around.
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And that becomes the sign of power and authority.
And so they'll enter in in that sign.
So the same thing with some of the other things.
You get one of the books that isjust a reflection book in the
system, but it also has a lot ofthe words, a lot of the
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different symbols that you're going to see, including the
Lotus symbol is Initiates of theFlame by Manley P Hall.
And in there, you know, it talksabout that Lotus representing
you got the spine, you got the enlightened mind, you know, and
it's showing what is that Lotus symbol in?
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It's the sign of the Kabbalah tree, the man ascending into his
cod hood space, right? Some of the others, I mean, when
we think about at the top levelsof Kundalini magic, here's the
scary part is that they're not just making contracts with what
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they're considering Seraphim or light side angels.
There is, you know, at the very core of that, I don't know a
nicer way to put it, but there is engaging in sexual practices
with demons. And in that, you know, some of
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those stances that they're goingto take are purposely to make a
position to put you in a position where it's going to be
drawing those siren spirits thatare coming in to gain sexual
access. Now to top it off, you know, in
you see it a lot more in yoga than per SE in the church with
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kundalini, but they're going to get into exploring certain types
of mind awakening, natural herbsor other things.
And those are, you know, meant to puts you in a state where
it's easier for those spirits togain access, not only to
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communicate with you. But one of the biggest things
that I hear from individuals who've gone through that is the
sexual rape by spirits. That that's what a lot of them
don't want to talk about becausethey don't know what to do with
that. They don't believe that anybody
will believe them if they talk about that.
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But that's the truth of what youget is, you know, demons that
are gonna get that control and even to the point where you get
demons that then are gonna rape,you know, and I've, I've had
several deliverances of women that had gotten into things like
shamanism or the Kundalini yoga.And then they literally, you
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know, and they thought it was all innocent.
They even, you know, because they were blending the
Christianity, the yoga, and I mean, literally the attacks were
vicious where, you know, they were getting these physical
attacks from these demonic spirits.
And finally they just didn't know where to go.
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And they're like, hey, we need help.
We need deliverance from this. And the Lord did deliver them,
but that's where you know it easily can go.
Could yoga studios or maybe evenlarge scale festivals act as
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spiritual gateways or ritual grounds when they do this?
I believe they're perfect. They are usually situated.
You get a lot of the they focus on the punctual way, the flow,
everything being placed in certain directions, movements,
that's all for the energy. And yeah, they're, they're
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inviting certain things, certaingates.
There's a few places I've gone where, you know, they were
setting up, like what setting uphealing centers and, you know,
they had found like a spiritual gate or they felt like they had
energy. They didn't know that it was a
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gate. They just knew there was energy
in that place. And they had set up, you know,
tables. And we're like, oh, we'll work
with people in the energy. But the problem was, was that,
you know, they didn't even get all the understand why, but
they'd get some people who'd come and would be horrifically
sick through it. And then you'd get others that
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it was like, oh, this is the best thing, you know.
And I walked in there and, you know, it's like, oh, well,
that's because what you have is a major gait.
You're getting extra flow off ofit.
And you know, so anybody whose spirit is tuned to those major
keys, they come, they feel light, they feel, you know,
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free. They feel like they're getting
healing. But then you have those who are
minor tuned, they walk in that room and it feels like a chaos
and, you know, doom, gloom, there's this heavy suppression.
And it was like, So what you simply need to do is have those
people step out of the main flow.
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You know, if they step out of that main energy flow line, all
of a sudden they can feel like they're breathing too.
And so, you know, their whole room setup was based off of just
major energy flow. So you get a lot of them that
they just, you know, they're going to set up things.
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They're wanting to invite people, but they don't know
about, you know, really about spiritual gates.
They don't know where that energy line is coming from.
You know, their intention is to do good, to do light work.
But, you know, is it really bringing healing?
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Is it really bringing life to people?
The truth is probably not. You know, it might be for a
season or a time, you know, every demonic spirit is going to
have honeymoon seasons where youthink, oh, this is great.
Everything in my life is going well.
And that's how you're drawn in deeper and deeper.
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And then all the bad stuff starts, you know?
Can this type of spiritual awakening actually maybe like MK
Ultra, that kind of disassociation or trance they
do? Use trans states, yes, it's not
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necessarily connected to the MK Ultra even though you do have I
would say it's you know you within the system you have
hierarchy children. Those children are trained for
certain positions, whether dark or light side.
So I would connect it within thepositions of the system and
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training, but not necessarily MKUltra per SE can't.
Where I would see more the Kundalini and the yoga coming in
is in that, you know, you're going to have, you know, with
the training with the MK Ultra, they're always going to be
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trying to teach the hierarchy children how to manage, how to
control themselves. It's common for them to teach
yoga as a way of meditation and control, which usually, you
know, along with that comes the emptying or the absence of all
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thought in the mind. And in that you open yourself up
to whatever thoughts are going to come your way versus
meditation in scripture, you know, in Joshua 1/8, it says,
you know, this book of law, you shall meditate on day and night
for then you shall make your wayprosperous and then you shall
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have success. We're meant to chew on the word
of God and to think on it over and over again versus you know
what they teach in yoga. It's there's a getting rid of
the word and not standing on theword or not thinking and not
chewing and not seeking for the deeper understanding or the
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depth of the word, you know. So it's all built to strip us of
our armor, strip us of the things that are foundational to
growing our faith and growing our authority in Christ.
Wow, now. For someone who's already
practiced kundalini or yoga and now feels spiritually
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compromised, what would be the first step towards healing and
spiritually this? What is it?
Disentanglement of that, Yeah. So I think 22 key things come
into play with that. First.
You know, what does Scripture say in first John 19?
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If we confess our sin, the Lord is faithful.
He's faithful to us because he wants to be in that covenant
relationship with us. He's faithful to forgive us and
to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
So that's the first step is that, you know, it's a issue of
uncleanness, the same as idolatry, the same as
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unfaithfulness to the Lord. You need to be cleansed.
Now, some of us, it helps when we go through cleansing to not
just confess the sin in words, but to actually go through a
cleanse, whether that's, you know, a physical one that you're
going to do like a juice cleanse, Whether that's, you
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know, I always encourage anointing with oil as a way to
concentrate, set yourself apart.One of the ways to use oil that
I really enjoy using is all, youknow, take a bath and do a
cleanse by taking a bath with a lot of different oils that the
Lord chose and kind of make it awhole time where, you know, as
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I'm physically cleansing my body, I'm also seeking the Lord
for that cleansing and it's verypowerful.
At other times I haven't done a whole bath.
Instead, I'll do more like a foot bath where I'll wash my
feet as I confess that my sins and you know, come back into
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that place of righteousness. And I'll think on the passage
where Jesus cleansed the disciples feet and said, you
know, Peter's like, well, not just my feet do my whole head
right 'cause we want to make sure we're clean.
Many of us are, are like that. But the Lord says, no, if your
feet are clean, your whole body is clean.
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And I'll remind myself of that. Like do I believe the Lord?
Do I take him at his word? Do I trust that as I confess
these sins and wash my feet thatmy whole body is clean?
I believe it, you know, I believe that he's done the work.
So then there may the next step after, you know, the confession,
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the cleansing, a next great stepis to go through some self
deliverance. I have some great episodes out
there that literally walk you through different stages of self
deliverance. The first episode you can find
on Kingdom Living TV on my website or on my website,
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Kingdom Living with jesse.com, and it's titled Idols in My
Pantry. And the second in that series is
Cleansing or Sorry, yeah, it's cleaning out my pantry.
And then the third is The Courtsof Heaven.
Now, in that series, we kind of go through, you know, the first
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stage is identifying what are the idols that have come in,
what are the altars maybe that the enemy has built?
You know, that's important to understand both with Kundalini
and with yoga, that there is a, a worship, acts of worship that
are involved, which means in thespirit world, the enemy's going
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to be setting up idols in that place for where you're going to
be worshipping at. And a lot of times what happens
is that we'll confess, but we don't deal with the spirits, and
we don't deal with the altars orthe strongholds that the spirits
have built. Or we'll maybe deal with the
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spirits, but we never even address the altar.
So what happens? Things come back.
The enemy will bring, you know, that same thing that we had
fallen into temptation with. He'll bring it back around
because the altar is still standing there.
So that series is meant to help us identify the altars, go
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through cleansing where we're rebuking, we're removing the
spirits, casting those out and any connections that they've had
in our life, we're removing their authority and their
permissions over us. And then the third part, the
courts of heaven, you know, teaches us how to, in prayer,
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you know, address those altars and ask the Lord to destroy them
so that the enemy can't come back and reuse those in our
lives. Another great self deliverance
book that I always recommend is the Bondage Breaker by Neil T
Anderson. He does a really good job
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addressing a lot of spiritual things that, you know, footholds
that the enemy gets, you know, So I encourage people to do that
regular spiritual maintenance, go through the deliverance.
That's for yourself. And then I always take it a step
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further because usually, you know, when you're involved with
the kundalini or involved in theyoga it there's a community
aspect. There may even be things that
you've brought in into your homelike tarot cards or crystals or
you know, other things. And so therefore, now the enemy
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has a foothold in your home. And some of the people that I've
walked with Deliverance through that's the situation they found,
was that, you know, they actually were gifted some things
as they began to get into those practices, they had brought
those items into the home. And later as they were trying to
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get out, all the sudden that's when they started getting
attacks at night. They were getting paranormal
activity. They were getting nightmares.
Then it went beyond just attacks.
You know, in their dreams, they began to physically get attacked
at night by the spirits. And so, you know, I encourage
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people wherever stuff is happening and it, it can be
subtle, like it might be all of a sudden your kids start arguing
all the time and fighting. It might be that, you know,
you've got this toilet that's always clogging up or a sink
that's always clogging up wherever, you know, you're
noticing the activity happening,this downward spiral.
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Ask the Lord to show you the enemy's access point.
You know, where is the enemy getting access in that?
And so, you know, when I had these people ask the Lord that,
you know, they went in their bedroom 'cause that's where all
the activity was. They said, Lord, show us where
the access is. It ended up being the items that
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they had received, but then theyhad to put it was in a box.
They had just set it on the bookshelf.
So then what I encouraged, I said anointed, remove the enemy,
you know, rebuke the enemy, remove the permission and the
authority and then ask the Lord,are you to keep it or to get rid
of it? And the Lord told them to get
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rid of it. So they got it out of the house.
We've had people with family heirlooms that they had
received, you know, and they're like, oh, I don't want to get
rid of the heirloom. And it's like, well, anointed.
And then ask the Lord, are you to keep it or to get rid of it?
You know, we've had some the Lord has allowed to keep.
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He's cleansed it, you know, purified the item, and they've
had no more issues. Others have had to get rid of,
you know, because the Lord said no, it's got to go.
So that's kind of the basics of how I would encourage you to get
out. I do have a video, it's
deliverance from the Golden Dawnin that I get into a lot of the
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books that they use, which a lotof times will Criss cross with
kundalini magic. So that's a great deliverance if
you've specifically been involved in the kundalini, that
deliverance is a really thoroughone that gets into specific
terms. Books removing permissions that
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have come through demonic attachments, through occultic
books that have been read or, you know, things that in the
energy realm and sphere. So that's where I would start.
And my recommendation always is as you're going through this
stuff, if you, you know, get to something and your immediate
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thought is, oh, I don't have a problem with that, circle it big
and come back to it because that's usually where the
strongholds are. Like if you're like, oh, I've
never done witchcraft. I've never done tarot cards.
Circle it, you know, like you may not have thought of it, but
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maybe somebody you were connected to brought it in or
brought in concepts for that andor like, hey, do this yoga pose
and you don't know that it's connected to those things,
right? So that's often how the enemy
gets the stronghold. Come back to it, pray through
it. If you find that that resistance
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like I can't or I don't want to,like you'll know, you'll feel
that fight inside it. You may need somebody to pray
with you as you go through deliverance with that, you know,
ask someone to do pray with you with that.
Just be like, hey, I've got thisstronghold.
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I just want to pray through it. And you know, don't be afraid.
If you know, if you're dealing with the Spirit, rebuke it.
You know, rebuke it, cast it out, remove its permissions and
its authorities. The only legal ground the
spirits have is unrighteousness.So how do we remove the
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unrighteousness that comes through confession?
I'm not the type that in a deliverance where I sit there
and, you know, yell or scream ordo all this commanding, I simply
say to the person, all right, it's just you and me, Start
dishing out the goods, confess the sins.
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And as they do that, you know, there comes that moment where
they're done. And all of a sudden it's like,
OK, command that spirit to go now.
And the spirit leaves. It has to leave.
I had one woman that when she confessed the spirit of fear,
all of a sudden that was when the spirit manifested in her and
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it was not her voice. Like she began to speak forth
and yell like in a way that was not her.
And I went to her and I said, you know, I commanded the spirit
to be silent and to lose her tongue 'cause that was the next
thing it tried to bind her tongue.
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So she couldn't confess. And I said, OK, now confess the
fears. And so I had her go deeper.
Instead of just in general confessing fear, she started to
confess what the fears were. She had 10 of em.
And by the time she got to that 10th one, she said, I confess
the fear of my mother. All of a sudden it was like now
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command the spirit of fear to go, and she was able to command
it to go and that was it. It was done.
The spirit was gone. You know, so you don't need.
To have their names, you know some people, some religious
group needs to have the demons names to cast them out.
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I don't, I, I deal, you know, just unless the Lord
specifically gives the name or if I know like I'm dealing with
a major principality, usually I find the spirits are connected
to the uncleanness that whateverthe sin is.
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So you know, if it's fear, you're going to have the spirit
of fear. If it's lust, you have the
spirit of lust, the spirit of wrath, the spirit of envy,
jealousy, the spirit of death, you know.
So unless the Lord gives the thespecific name or unless the
person is dealing with a specific name that comes out,
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you know, it's just in general command the spirits to go Well,
Jesse, thank. You again, so much for coming on
and sharing your insights and your experiences.
And for those who want to dig indeeper into your work, where's
the best place for them to connect with you and follow what
you're doing? Yeah, you can find.
Me on Kingdom Living with jesse.com, that's the best
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place. And on there you'll find my
courses, my videos that I've done, as well as my unveiling of
the structure of the system series.
So I encourage you to check thatout.
Again, Jesse, I truly appreciateyou taking the time to be here
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and for being so open with everything you've shared,
especially on a topic that's often misunderstood or glossed
over. Repeat.
You're cutting. In and out there for a minute.
So go ahead and repeat that, I said.
Mahalo. Jesse, again, I truly appreciate
you taking the time for you being here and being so open
with everything you've shared, especially on a topic that's so
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often misunderstood or glossed over.
So thank you again, and I know the listeners will walk away
with a lot to think about and thank you.
And that brings us to an end of another episode.
A huge mahalo to my guest and friend Jesse Sabota for joining
me and sharing her deep insightson this important topic.
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always, mahalo for listening. Ho ho kako, bye.
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I have swung too far, I can't focus.
You say who you are and I've noticed.
If I fall apart, could you hold this?
You got me digging way too deep in the feelings and I'm over
here looking for all the reasons.
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So if you're going to stick around and if you plan to hold
me down, be patient 'cause I'm finding down that I might need
you. Yeah, don't want to mess up.
I can't do what you love. I can't get enough and I'm going
to get my heart. Reply myself and I can act up.
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So if you're going to stick around and if you plan to hold
me down, be patient because I'm finding out, yeah.
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Keep my heart by my side. I connect up, I get a turn.
Don't need a loop. You come in and thank you much.
Just be surprised.
And then told Moses to raise up the pole and put the snake on
it, and those who looked at it would be healed.
Now, later we find out that Israel began to worship the
snake on the pole. And that snake on the pole is a
spirit by the name of Nehushtan.So actually, what they do in the
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system is they will, you know, literally have a snake up their
arm. They'll take the head up here
and hold it by the head with it wrapped around, and that becomes
the sign of power and authority.And so they'll enter in in that
sign. So the same thing with some of
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the other things. You get one of the books that is
just a reflection book in the system, but it also has a lot of
the words, a lot of the different symbols that you're
going to see, including the Lotus symbol is an issue.
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Aloha, and welcome to another show, guys.
Today I'm joined once again by my special guest and friend,
Jesse Saboter, and we're diving into a powerful conversation on
Kundalini yoga and their spiritual implication.
Now, this isn't your typical Wellness chat.
Jesse shares deep insights on how certain practices can serve
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as gateways not always to enlightenment, but to influence
control and even in deception. So we explore what kundalini
truly is from her perspective and how it's used within certain
occult systems, and the hidden risk behind what many sees as
harmless or healing routines. So if you ever practice yoga or
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explored energy work, this episode is going to challenge
you to rethink what you've been told and bring discernment into
your spiritual journey. Now, please don't forget to
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Quick heads up guys, sorry aboutthe video quality on this one.
I was in Florida at the time of recording this and I did not
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So I'm at a Starbucks. So you may see or hear a bit of
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activity in the background. So I'm really sorry about that.
So, but now let's welcome Jesse to the conversation and enjoy
the show. Jesse and welcome back to the
show. I'm so glad to have you here
again. Today we're going to dive into a
topic that's become, I think, incredibly popular in Wellness
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and spiritual circles. Kundalini energy and yoga.
Well, I think many see these practices as paths to
enlightenment and healing. Others weren't of hidden
dangers, spiritual maybe spiritual attachments and even
deeper agendas that most never hear about.
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South Jesse. Your insight as a survivor and
someone who's walked. Through the darkest.
Corners of Spiritual Warfare brings a perspective that's I
guess not only rare but necessary.
So I'm really looking forward tounpacking these this
conversation with you and givingtheir listeners a fuller
understanding about this. Yeah, definitely.
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So I think where it's good to start is to, you know, we've in
past shows, we've talked about the system, we've talked about
how this Luciferian brotherhood has a dark side as well as a
light side. The core of both sides are
different forms of magic. And what magic is, is it's
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entangling with energy or with asource other than God.
So, you know, we know that everything in creation was
created by God. It it came forth from the breath
of his mouth. He literally spoke it into
being. And you know, magic is is just
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that, you know, it's it's speaking forth things that are
to go forth and and do whatever is intended, whether that's
negative or positive. So the first thing with
Kundalini is to understand that this is not a Christian thing.
This is not of God. What is it connected to?
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It actually is connected to Serpentine spirits.
You have Serpentine spirits, whether fire or water, their
purpose is to go forth and to tomimic basically the voice of
God. And that can be mimicked in
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several ways which we're going to get into.
So, you know, there definitely are spirits connected to
Kundalini. A lot of the things that you're
going to see in kundalini connect to high level Kabbalah.
You know, in fact, you know, a lot of the base studies for the
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many of the practitioners who are either teaching kundalini
or, you know, drawing mass crowds in a lot of their
knowledge and information is going to come from studying the,
you know, what's considered the angelic realm, the Seraphim
realm. Many of them are going to have
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their knowledge from Kabbalah, abook called Kabbalah of the
Golden Dawn. And in that book, you know, it
gets into the Kabbalah tree, theconnection to that tree, which
they'll call the tree of life toprincipalities, powers,
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different seraphim, the connection of those seraphim to
what they're going to consider humanitarian efforts or good
energy. And, you know, different forms
of light would be another way that they're going to put it is
that really they're just light workers.
They're learning to move with different lights.
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And all of this, you know, Kundalini really came into the
church through the light side ofthe system, high level
Kabbalists, which we'll get intoin a moment.
And its purpose was to bring forth a high level of Kabbalah
operating within the church under a form of godliness.
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And, you know, that's kind of become the enemy's slogan.
You know, that form of godliness.
And in fact, you know, it's beendeclared by Constantine himself
In this, you know, in this sign we shall conquer.
That's when the brotherhood and the sovereign military really
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began to take the different signs, symbols, things that
represented Christ and the church and began to connect it
to a form of godliness that presents itself as godliness.
But really it's not godliness. That form of godliness attacks
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three major areas. And so, you know, when we're
looking at things and we want tobe able to discern, you know, is
this the real deal or is this a form of godliness?
These are kind of the three measures we have to look at
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because kundalini is going to come in the form of a false
gospel. It'll come in the form of a
false Christ and the form of a false Holy Spirit.
So we're going to kind of unpackthose a little bit further here.
So for a false gospel, you know,what does that mean?
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Well, we know what Scripture says about about the gospel.
You know, it says all have sinned and fall short of the
glory of God. In Romans 623, Romans 323, you
know, we learned that that thereis a wage that has to be paid
for our sin. Why?
Because God is holy and he can'thave sin with Him.
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You know, we see all throughout Scripture this concept that you
have God and you have the true Messiah, Jesus Christ, who came,
you know, but yet was sinless. He came in the flesh but did not
sin because what was at the coreof his heart, it was to do with
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the Father's will to be obedientto God even unto death.
And you know, Scripture says that maybe for a good man,
somebody would be willing to die, but who's really willing to
die for the worst of the worst sinners?
You know, no human is willing todo that.
Yet that's what Jesus did. He became the sacrifice for the
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sins of all mankind and bore that wrath of God.
Because it wasn't just, you know, that he's taken on the
sins, it's that he, you know, literally he took that wrath of
God for us and bore that wrath, meaning that the there came that
moment where the Father turned his face away.
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The Father, you know, literally turned his face away.
And we see that at the cross, you know, where Jesus cries out
right before his last breath. You know, Father, Father, why
have you forsaken me? You know, that's the moment the
Father turned his face away. And then we see, you know, him
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taking on that fullness of death, not just a physical
death, but there was an aspect of a spiritual death with that.
Because you have a separation between the Father and the Son
where the Father turns his face away and you know what happens
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next. You know, that wasn't the end.
We see the fulfillment of God's word that, you know, he promised
he would provide his own sacrifice.
He said that to Abraham, you know, when he commanded him to
take his son Isaac, Abraham in his obedience was going to do
it. And why did the Lord allow, not
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allow that to be fulfilled? It's because Isaac could have
never fulfilled the promises of God because he wasn't the son of
God. He was fully a human.
And so that's when the Lord, youknow, stopped Abraham and said,
no, I shall provide the lamb. I shall provide the sacrifice.
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So we see that that promise of the Messiah fulfilled in Jesus
Christ. And here's where the false
gospel comes in. The first thing you know, and
they're very good. You know, you're going to have
high level priestesses in the system who are going to get into
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the church and you know, they'regoing to still teach about
Jesus. They're going to teach that God
is love. They're going to teach that you
can be saved, that you have to confess your sins.
But then you get into, you know,that moment, you know, children
are led to Christ, they believe they receive.
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And then the abuse start where you know, the fear that oh,
well, you know, look at that, you lied.
Now they're sick. And what does Scripture say
about sin? And they begin to pull in the
letter of the law. You know God cannot have
anything evil with him. Now you know they'll go over and
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over. You know, liars don't get into
heaven. The sexually immoral don't get
into heaven. And even though they're
repeating the exact words out ofScripture, it's not coming
through the power of the Holy Spirit, you know, it's coming
through that form of godliness. It is meant to cause fear, to
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cause guilt and shame, and to condemn.
Now there's a difference. You know, how does the Holy
Spirit operate in our salvation?It's through conviction.
You know, the truth is, is that all of us fall short of the
glory of God, which is why salvation is a progressive
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effort. You know, that's why it says you
have to work through your salvation.
It's because, you know, as we come into that relationship,
we're saved, We're sealed through the death of Christ.
And what does it say in Romans 6?
It says that we have died with Christ and been raised into new
life with him. But in that, you know, then
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they'll bring in the gospel of works that you know, you have to
earn it. You've messed up.
Now you have to, you know, you've lost your salvation.
Like you don't know if you're going to get into heaven or not.
You know, there's no way they teach that, you know, you can't
be sure of your salvation. And that fear causes people to
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get into this cycle of perfectionism.
And that's the purpose of condemnation versus conviction.
You know, the Holy Spirit says, hey, you've sinned.
This has made me unhappy. And what is Scripture saying?
First, John 19 If we confess oursins, he is faithful and just to
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forgive us and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
You know, that's his work. And so what's supposed to happen
is when the Holy Spirit makes our sin known to us, convicts us
of it, it's to lead us to that place of confession, repenting,
cleansing, and then he restores us to a position of
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righteousness before him. That's how it's supposed to
work. And with that, you know, when
you look at the Old Testament, there were visual signs of that
process. You know, people that were
unclean and had issues of uncleanness were cast outside of
the main, you know, the main community.
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They had to go outside for sevendays.
They had to cleanse and then they had to come back to the
priest and, you know, they were to be examined and then they
would be brought back in. And with that, you know, all of
the stigma that went with them being cast out was was erased.
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You know, they were brought backin.
They were able to have their livelihood, have their
fellowship, go before the Lord. But with that form of godliness,
that's part of the stigma. No matter what you do, you know,
you can never attain being perfect.
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You know, you know, most of whatthey teach, it gets into the
gospel of works that you have todo, do, do, earn, earn, earn.
You know, if you send, oh, well,now you need to spend more time
reading Scripture. You need to spend more time in
prayer. You need to spend more time in
worship and fellowship. More, more, more, do, do, do.
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And the whole time you're like, OK, but I don't even hear God's
voice. I'm not even feeling or sensing
God's presence. Well, why is that?
It's because you're doing you'renot being in a relationship with
God. You're doing and in that you
expect God to be pleased with you.
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Look at all I do God. Look at how many hours I spend
in prayer. Look at how much time I do this
or that, you know, and and that's where you know, in
Scripture the Lord says, you know, not everybody who says
Lord, Lord will be saved. You know why?
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Because you've got those that really don't have a relationship
with God. They never even give the Lord a
chance to speak. It's all I got to do, do do this
in order to earn, in order to know for sure I'm going to be
saved. And they force people to be in
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this state of a false gospel where all the measures are based
on your works and what you do and rather than really being in
that relationship with God. So go ahead, I.
Was going to say, a lot of people don't even know that they
are not being or walking with God.
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They, they, they think that theyare doing something good,
they're doing something spiritual.
So they don't know that they maybe invoking something else.
So many describe this serpent awakening in a kundalini
practice. Is there a significance of that
symbolism or or what are they really truly invoking?
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When they Yeah, I I fully believe so.
You know, and part of that is there, you know, you're being
connected to a source other thanpriced.
Often times it's seen as entering in through the naval or
through another chakra area. You know, there's like a falling
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or a coming upon, even to the extent like some of the really,
you know, really charlatan kundalini, individuals are able
to mimic it, make it feel like it's that Holy Spirit or like
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it's an Angel, Make people feel like the presence of God has
come down. And at times they are able to
produce, you know, signs and wonders, you know, gold flakes
falling down. People will see rainbow colors.
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And, you know, that's described in revelations that the throne
of God, the Holy Spirit has color.
Now, I'm not saying that that that's wrong if you're seeing
that, but they'll utilize that in the kundalini magic.
So it can be hard to discern. And you know, what's the measure
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that we've got to weigh it against?
You know, is the spirit like when we're hearing these things
or experiencing these things, you know, is it just that form
of godliness or is it drawing usinto that real relationship with
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God? And that's going to be grounded
in the word and always measured against the Word, but not.
The word is in the letter of thelaw.
That's a religious spirit where you know, like it just it'll
give you all these verses about whatever topic you're looking
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at. But where it lacks is there's
not the life application. There's not really, you know,
how do you put it into practice?And at the end of the day, who
gets the glory for it? If it's pushing you towards
something and you're like, you know, look what I've done or I
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know I'm doing God's will because here's his word and
that's exactly what I'm doing. If that's kind of where your
stance is, what's at the core ofthat?
It's I look what I am doing versus when the real presence of
God is moving, you're like, Oh my gosh, guess what the Lord
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said to me, you know, guess whatthe Lord did, you know, the
focus is the Lord, like you're not even in the equation.
You're like, this is what the Lord said to me, you know, And
so there's a huge difference in,you know, that that false gospel
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versus the real gospel, that thereal gospel.
So here's the other difference in it is like, you know, I
remember it's like way back in the past, I had a client I was
helping and spent hours cleaningher house for her.
And every day at a certain time,she would watch Joel Osteen and
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I'd be hearing his sermons and I'd be like, man, I know this
guy is false. You know, I know this guy is
false. Yet as I'm listening, it's like,
man, like he's saying stuff right out of Scripture.
And it's like, Lord, show me. I'm like, I know there's a fine
line, but even I can't even detect what is that fine line,
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you know, So I was like, Lord, show me because he'd talk about
Jesus. He would talk about how to come
into that relationship, right? He'd talk about, you know, death
and receiving Christ and all this.
But finally the one day the Lordshowed me and it was interesting
because you'll see even in the Catholic churches, you'll see a
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lot of focus on the death and the death of the flesh.
But all of a sudden it was like,Oh my goodness, they never speak
about the resurrected life. They never share that that's
Christ's work, that we've died with Christ.
We've been raised into a new life.
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And they never get into the point of actually just living in
Christ. Like, you know, what happens
after we receive Christ, you know, and how come nobody
teaches us how to just live likeit's all, you know, put to
death, put to death, put to death.
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Why am I always focused on my sin?
If if all of that has already been put to death by Christ, you
know, so they never get into theinto the the truth, the fullness
of the gospel, which is, you know, the death and the new life
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that we have in Christ that we are in Christ.
And that gets into the next thing where you know, they teach
a false Christ. Many times you'll see a special
like in the Jesuit Catholic churches.
And Kundalini is not just in your newer churches, it's even
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in your Jesuit Catholic churches.
It stretches across all departments, the Mormons, the
Masons. You get a lot of your Eastern *
priestesses, which are the female branch of the Masons
connected to your Jesuit Catholic churches.
And you'll see their imagery. They'll always have the cross.
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And in the Jesuit Catholic churches, you'll see Christ
still on the cross or you'll seelike a, you know, like a mantle
or a scarf that's meant to, you know, represent the arms being
stretched out on on the cross. And with that, you know, you get
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all this false, this false imagery of Christ, but it
literally comes out of their book Kabbalah of the Golden
Dawn. You have this image of the
Kabbalah ladder in that you see at the very base you see
Leviathan and representing the Serpentine spirit.
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Above that you see standing a woman, and then above the woman
you see the man with his arms outstretched to two colonnades
representing a man on the cross.And then all of that leads to
the full ascension of their godhood.
So that imagery of Christ on thecross actually is part of that
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their Kabbalah beliefs that they're in this place position
of ascending into the light as gods.
And so you're going to see that where you know, either Christ is
on the cross or they're constantly talking about crucify
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the flesh, crucify the flesh. Well, why is that?
You know, it's so that you can attain the measure rather than
you know, that receiving that wealready have been given the full
measure by Christ. So what measure are we
receiving? That needs to be a question.
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So you know, then it that leads to the third part, which is the
greatest measure they want us toreceive, and that's the false
Holy Spirit. And in that, you know, that
leads to them pushing things like tongues that them pushing
things like being able to move energy.
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You know, there being signs and miracles that come when you do
healings. And with that, you know, there's
a push that only those who have the Holy Spirit, you have to
receive the Holy Spirit in orderto have the gifts.
And if you don't have the, the gifts or the, you know, the sign
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that you have the Holy Spirit, if you don't have the gifts,
well, then you haven't really been filled with the Holy Spirit
yet. Therefore, you know, they're
going to put you through all these classes, all these things
where you have to keep trying toreceive that Holy Spirit and you
know, so that's huge because youknow, and they'll claim it's
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scriptural that you have to, youknow, which scripture does say
that, you know, tongues is that sign of the Holy Spirit.
But they get into pushing where it's a gift that only select
people have it. You know, they don't.
And that then makes people who feel like, you know, when they
don't have that gift, they're like, am I not chosen?
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Like not only do I not have gifts, but I don't have the Holy
Spirit. And what it really does is it
stops up the going forth of the good works that we have the full
authority in Christ to do. And that's where you know really
the false Holy Spirit strips of strips us of the authority that
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we have in Christ. What is the Great Commission?
It says go heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers,
cast out the demons. Greater miracles you shall do
right. We have the authority to do the
greater than these miracles. Where does that authority come
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from? It comes through Christ.
And how do we begin to exercise that authority?
It comes out of that relationship.
It's not even something that youhave to do.
It's just, you know, as you spend time before the Lord and,
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and we'll get into this in a second here, the difference.
But as you spend time with the Lord, the Holy Spirit moves
like, you know, you don't have to pray or say certain words or
be in a certain position or, youknow, it's like there's a
ministry that happens. I wouldn't have had the words to
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explain it until I witnessed it one time in a vision.
I, you know, I've seen the healing pools in heaven many
times, but one of my visions, I saw Raphael standing up in the
healing pools and they flow. They're connected to the waters
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that flow out of the eastern gate.
And that's where, you know, in Scripture it talks about in
Revelations that the water goes down, it goes into a valley.
And along that waterway, that stream that flows, you have the
oaks of righteousness. Hey Ohana, I hope you're loving
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Now back to the show. Looks of righteousness.
So as I was, you know, standing there, I see Raphael standing in
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the pool of water and all of a sudden he had these two worship
flags and he just began to worship before the Lord.
And it was so beautiful. And as he worshipped before the
Lord, I saw the water went up and started flowing out.
It started, you know, being dispersed out.
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And I was like, huh, That's how the waters are stirred.
Literally all the angels are doing is, is praising,
worshipping, dancing before the Lord.
Like there isn't anything that they're doing on their own.
You know, they're not sitting there thinking, I've got to pray
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for this person's healing. I've got to have enough faith or
belief. Like they're just ministering
before the Lord and all of a sudden the authority comes, the
Holy Spirit falls, and in that moment the healing goes forth
and it's done. The work is done.
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There isn't anything that they particularly have done.
It's the Spirit of God that doesit and it comes out of that
ministry before the Lord. And so you know, you look at.
Like you. Know I know for myself
personally, you know what I've seen in some churches, you know
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where they're going to call everybody to the front, they're
gonna put their hands on you. This right here is a telltale
sign of kundalini. Or when they put the hand on
your stomach because they're purposely taking authority.
It's like a seal over, you know,an area of authority where your
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soul, your pineal gland is so they take that authority.
Like when I anoint people, I'll just do like a little spot up
here because I'm not, I'm not, you know, I never will pray for
somebody like this. I'll just put a hand on the
shoulder, but they'll put it either, you know, there or
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they'll hit that stomach area where you have a chakra or the
back right behind that, sometimes both.
And they do that to take, you know, it's like a power energy
move. They're going to see if they can
get a access point in. Now I have had people do that to
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me and I think they expected to all of a sudden have me fall on
the ground and to have that authority.
But that's not what happened. Why?
Because I put on my armor every day, my spiritual armor and my
belt of truth was there and it was like they went in for their
power moves and it was like LordJesus and nothing happened.
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You know, I just stood there praising the Lord, thanking the
Lord, and they were like, huh, you know, So there was nothing
that they could do. There was no authority that they
could take because I was standing in my authority in the
Lord. So, you know, others, you know,
they're going to pray for that spirit to fall on people to
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come. They're going to say receive it.
I've seen literally, you know, one time a guy like, you know,
this woman, I really thought shewas a godly woman.
She actually was quite, you know, beautiful older woman.
She had a lot of spiritual authority.
She had done a special conference on a weekend when I
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was hoping, you know, it's like,oh, man, I'm sad I had to miss
that 'cause I really, you know, had, like, some of the things
that she was saying. But as I was in church that
Sunday, she asked people to comeforward and share about what
they had experienced at the event.
And she taught, kept saying, youknow, there was a huge movement
of the Holy Spirit. New people had received the Holy
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Spirit, including this one oldergentleman.
Well, as he got up there to speak, all of a sudden he
collapsed and began convulsing. And I was like, huh, Like there
was something in it. And as he's doing that, her
words were, it's OK, let the Holy Spirit come on you.
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And I was sitting there like, this is not the Holy Spirit
like, Lord, is this you? Like this does not seem like
you. And the Lord told me to hold up
my hand and to just simply say peace be still.
So I did. I at first I said it very
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quietly under my breath. And all of a sudden he
completely stopped convulsing. And she was like, let the Spirit
come. Let the Spirit of God come on
you and she. He started it up again and that
time a little bit louder. I said peace be still.
And he dead stopped. They couldn't get him going
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again and they ended up having to escort him out of the church.
And that's when I knew I was like, OK, she's dealing in a
false spirit. That's not the spirit of God.
And what she did next as they left had that man leave.
She called for all the children to come up to the front.
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Now that day the Lord had me sitbehind this 7 year old little
boy and the Lord said where whenhe goes up, you go up too.
And it was like, OK, so as he went up, I literally just went
and stood behind him. Now she started, you know,
pushing on everybody's heads. Everybody's falling down,
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looking like they're slaying in the spirit.
The only two who weren't. And it wasn't.
I didn't even fight it. I was like, Lord, if you want me
to go down, I'll go down. You know, it's like I'm just
here. But it was funny.
She literally passed over us, didn't even touch our heads.
She literally passed over and wewere the only two left standing.
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And I was just like, OK, Lord. And yeah, So it was really
interesting. And that was kind of my last
time at that church. But it you know it.
Can display itself in so many ways.
You know, and I can't reiterate,they really use scripture, You
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know, they know how to wield scripture and they know how to
wield it as a weapon against you.
And it will always come with that condemnation, that guilt,
that shame, that measure of perfectionism that you can never
measure up to. That's not freedom in Christ.
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That's not the power of the HolySpirit.
We have the fullness of Christ, which is what it is.
The Holy Spirit, that's the fullness of Christ, is being
filled with the Holy Spirit, knowing the Lord's will and
being able to do the Lord's will.
We have that, and we don't have to do anything to earn it.
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The Lord gives that freely because His desire is that we
know Him. I have a.
Question, do the physical poses themselves that people do like,
I don't know, salutation, I I don't know any of those poses,
downward dog, whatever, Yeah. Oh, you cut out just a little
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bit there. Do you mind repeating the
question quick? I heard the sure poses do the
poses that they do do the poses that.
They do like the downward dog orsun salutations.
All of all of those poses, are they acts as like a form of
ritual or spiritual contracts? I believe a lot of them are
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spiritual contracts and it is a way of invoking or summoning the
spirits that they're contracted with.
For example, like in the, you know, in the Mormon temples, you
get it in the Baptist churches as well, they're always going to
be talking about the sign of Elijah.
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They'll talk about Elijah the prophet and about, you know,
his, his authority to work miracles to, you know, have
things happen. And you'll see these images and
these signs like where, you know, they'll literally have
Elijah with his hand like this. And what that is, is it actually
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represents the story of, you know, when Israel had sinned,
the Lord sent serpents to bite them, poisonous snakes, and then
told Moses to raise up the pole and put the snake on it.
And those who looked at it wouldbe healed.
Now, later we find out that Israel began to worship the
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snake on the pole. And that snake on the pole is a
spirit by the name of Nahushan. So actually what they do in the
system is they will, you know, literally have a snake up their
arm. They'll take the head up here
and hold it by the head with it wrapped around.
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And that becomes the sign of power and authority.
And so they'll enter in in that sign.
So the same thing with some of the other things.
You get one of the books that isjust a reflection book in the
system, but it also has a lot ofthe words, a lot of the
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different symbols that you're going to see, including the
Lotus symbol is Initiates of theFlame by Manley P Hall.
And in there, you know, it talksabout that Lotus representing
you got the spine, you got the enlightened mind, you know, and
it's showing what is that Lotus symbol in?
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It's the sign of the Kabbalah tree, the man ascending into his
cod hood space, right? Some of the others, I mean, when
we think about at the top levelsof Kundalini magic, here's the
scary part is that they're not just making contracts with what
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they're considering Seraphim or light side angels.
There is, you know, at the very core of that, I don't know a
nicer way to put it, but there is engaging in sexual practices
with demons. And in that, you know, some of
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those stances that they're goingto take are purposely to make a
position to put you in a position where it's going to be
drawing those siren spirits thatare coming in to gain sexual
access. Now to top it off, you know, in
you see it a lot more in yoga than per SE in the church with
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kundalini, but they're going to get into exploring certain types
of mind awakening, natural herbsor other things.
And those are, you know, meant to puts you in a state where
it's easier for those spirits togain access, not only to
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communicate with you. But one of the biggest things
that I hear from individuals who've gone through that is the
sexual rape by spirits. That that's what a lot of them
don't want to talk about becausethey don't know what to do with
that. They don't believe that anybody
will believe them if they talk about that.
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But that's the truth of what youget is, you know, demons that
are gonna get that control and even to the point where you get
demons that then are gonna rape,you know, and I've, I've had
several deliverances of women that had gotten into things like
shamanism or the Kundalini yoga.And then they literally, you
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know, and they thought it was all innocent.
They even, you know, because they were blending the
Christianity, the yoga, and I mean, literally the attacks were
vicious where, you know, they were getting these physical
attacks from these demonic spirits.
And finally they just didn't know where to go.
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And they're like, hey, we need help.
We need deliverance from this. And the Lord did deliver them,
but that's where you know it easily can go.
Could yoga studios or maybe evenlarge scale festivals act as
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spiritual gateways or ritual grounds when they do this?
I believe they're perfect. They are usually situated.
You get a lot of the they focus on the punctual way, the flow,
everything being placed in certain directions, movements,
that's all for the energy. And yeah, they're, they're
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inviting certain things, certaingates.
There's a few places I've gone where, you know, they were
setting up, like what setting uphealing centers and, you know,
they had found like a spiritual gate or they felt like they had
energy. They didn't know that it was a
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gate. They just knew there was energy
in that place. And they had set up, you know,
tables. And we're like, oh, we'll work
with people in the energy. But the problem was, was that,
you know, they didn't even get all the understand why, but
they'd get some people who'd come and would be horrifically
sick through it. And then you'd get others that
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it was like, oh, this is the best thing, you know.
And I walked in there and, you know, it's like, oh, well,
that's because what you have is a major gait.
You're getting extra flow off ofit.
And you know, so anybody whose spirit is tuned to those major
keys, they come, they feel light, they feel, you know,
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free. They feel like they're getting
healing. But then you have those who are
minor tuned, they walk in that room and it feels like a chaos
and, you know, doom, gloom, there's this heavy suppression.
And it was like, So what you simply need to do is have those
people step out of the main flow.
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You know, if they step out of that main energy flow line, all
of a sudden they can feel like they're breathing too.
And so, you know, their whole room setup was based off of just
major energy flow. So you get a lot of them that
they just, you know, they're going to set up things.
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They're wanting to invite people, but they don't know
about, you know, really about spiritual gates.
They don't know where that energy line is coming from.
You know, their intention is to do good, to do light work.
But, you know, is it really bringing healing?
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Is it really bringing life to people?
The truth is probably not. You know, it might be for a
season or a time, you know, every demonic spirit is going to
have honeymoon seasons where youthink, oh, this is great.
Everything in my life is going well.
And that's how you're drawn in deeper and deeper.
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And then all the bad stuff starts, you know?
Can this type of spiritual awakening actually maybe like MK
Ultra, that kind of disassociation or trance they
do? Use trans states, yes, it's not
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necessarily connected to the MK Ultra even though you do have I
would say it's you know you within the system you have
hierarchy children. Those children are trained for
certain positions, whether dark or light side.
So I would connect it within thepositions of the system and
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training, but not necessarily MKUltra per SE can't.
Where I would see more the Kundalini and the yoga coming in
is in that, you know, you're going to have, you know, with
the training with the MK Ultra, they're always going to be
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trying to teach the hierarchy children how to manage, how to
control themselves. It's common for them to teach
yoga as a way of meditation and control, which usually, you
know, along with that comes the emptying or the absence of all
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thought in the mind. And in that you open yourself up
to whatever thoughts are going to come your way versus
meditation in scripture, you know, in Joshua 1/8, it says,
you know, this book of law, you shall meditate on day and night
for then you shall make your wayprosperous and then you shall
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have success. We're meant to chew on the word
of God and to think on it over and over again versus you know
what they teach in yoga. It's there's a getting rid of
the word and not standing on theword or not thinking and not
chewing and not seeking for the deeper understanding or the
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depth of the word, you know. So it's all built to strip us of
our armor, strip us of the things that are foundational to
growing our faith and growing our authority in Christ.
Wow, now. For someone who's already
practiced kundalini or yoga and now feels spiritually
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compromised, what would be the first step towards healing and
spiritually this? What is it?
Disentanglement of that, Yeah. So I think 22 key things come
into play with that. First.
You know, what does Scripture say in first John 19?
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If we confess our sin, the Lord is faithful.
He's faithful to us because he wants to be in that covenant
relationship with us. He's faithful to forgive us and
to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
So that's the first step is that, you know, it's a issue of
uncleanness, the same as idolatry, the same as
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unfaithfulness to the Lord. You need to be cleansed.
Now, some of us, it helps when we go through cleansing to not
just confess the sin in words, but to actually go through a
cleanse, whether that's, you know, a physical one that you're
going to do like a juice cleanse, Whether that's, you
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know, I always encourage anointing with oil as a way to
concentrate, set yourself apart.One of the ways to use oil that
I really enjoy using is all, youknow, take a bath and do a
cleanse by taking a bath with a lot of different oils that the
Lord chose and kind of make it awhole time where, you know, as
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I'm physically cleansing my body, I'm also seeking the Lord
for that cleansing and it's verypowerful.
At other times I haven't done a whole bath.
Instead, I'll do more like a foot bath where I'll wash my
feet as I confess that my sins and you know, come back into
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that place of righteousness. And I'll think on the passage
where Jesus cleansed the disciples feet and said, you
know, Peter's like, well, not just my feet do my whole head
right 'cause we want to make sure we're clean.
Many of us are, are like that. But the Lord says, no, if your
feet are clean, your whole body is clean.
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And I'll remind myself of that. Like do I believe the Lord?
Do I take him at his word? Do I trust that as I confess
these sins and wash my feet thatmy whole body is clean?
I believe it, you know, I believe that he's done the work.
So then there may the next step after, you know, the confession,
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the cleansing, a next great stepis to go through some self
deliverance. I have some great episodes out
there that literally walk you through different stages of self
deliverance. The first episode you can find
on Kingdom Living TV on my website or on my website,
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Kingdom Living with jesse.com, and it's titled Idols in My
Pantry. And the second in that series is
Cleansing or Sorry, yeah, it's cleaning out my pantry.
And then the third is The Courtsof Heaven.
Now, in that series, we kind of go through, you know, the first
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stage is identifying what are the idols that have come in,
what are the altars maybe that the enemy has built?
You know, that's important to understand both with Kundalini
and with yoga, that there is a, a worship, acts of worship that
are involved, which means in thespirit world, the enemy's going
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to be setting up idols in that place for where you're going to
be worshipping at. And a lot of times what happens
is that we'll confess, but we don't deal with the spirits, and
we don't deal with the altars orthe strongholds that the spirits
have built. Or we'll maybe deal with the
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spirits, but we never even address the altar.
So what happens? Things come back.
The enemy will bring, you know, that same thing that we had
fallen into temptation with. He'll bring it back around
because the altar is still standing there.
So that series is meant to help us identify the altars, go
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through cleansing where we're rebuking, we're removing the
spirits, casting those out and any connections that they've had
in our life, we're removing their authority and their
permissions over us. And then the third part, the
courts of heaven, you know, teaches us how to, in prayer,
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you know, address those altars and ask the Lord to destroy them
so that the enemy can't come back and reuse those in our
lives. Another great self deliverance
book that I always recommend is the Bondage Breaker by Neil T
Anderson. He does a really good job
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addressing a lot of spiritual things that, you know, footholds
that the enemy gets, you know, So I encourage people to do that
regular spiritual maintenance, go through the deliverance.
That's for yourself. And then I always take it a step
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further because usually, you know, when you're involved with
the kundalini or involved in theyoga it there's a community
aspect. There may even be things that
you've brought in into your homelike tarot cards or crystals or
you know, other things. And so therefore, now the enemy
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has a foothold in your home. And some of the people that I've
walked with Deliverance through that's the situation they found,
was that, you know, they actually were gifted some things
as they began to get into those practices, they had brought
those items into the home. And later as they were trying to
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get out, all the sudden that's when they started getting
attacks at night. They were getting paranormal
activity. They were getting nightmares.
Then it went beyond just attacks.
You know, in their dreams, they began to physically get attacked
at night by the spirits. And so, you know, I encourage
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people wherever stuff is happening and it, it can be
subtle, like it might be all of a sudden your kids start arguing
all the time and fighting. It might be that, you know,
you've got this toilet that's always clogging up or a sink
that's always clogging up wherever, you know, you're
noticing the activity happening,this downward spiral.
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Ask the Lord to show you the enemy's access point.
You know, where is the enemy getting access in that?
And so, you know, when I had these people ask the Lord that,
you know, they went in their bedroom 'cause that's where all
the activity was. They said, Lord, show us where
the access is. It ended up being the items that
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they had received, but then theyhad to put it was in a box.
They had just set it on the bookshelf.
So then what I encouraged, I said anointed, remove the enemy,
you know, rebuke the enemy, remove the permission and the
authority and then ask the Lord,are you to keep it or to get rid
of it? And the Lord told them to get
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rid of it. So they got it out of the house.
We've had people with family heirlooms that they had
received, you know, and they're like, oh, I don't want to get
rid of the heirloom. And it's like, well, anointed.
And then ask the Lord, are you to keep it or to get rid of it?
You know, we've had some the Lord has allowed to keep.
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He's cleansed it, you know, purified the item, and they've
had no more issues. Others have had to get rid of,
you know, because the Lord said no, it's got to go.
So that's kind of the basics of how I would encourage you to get
out. I do have a video, it's
deliverance from the Golden Dawnin that I get into a lot of the
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books that they use, which a lotof times will Criss cross with
kundalini magic. So that's a great deliverance if
you've specifically been involved in the kundalini, that
deliverance is a really thoroughone that gets into specific
terms. Books removing permissions that
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have come through demonic attachments, through occultic
books that have been read or, you know, things that in the
energy realm and sphere. So that's where I would start.
And my recommendation always is as you're going through this
stuff, if you, you know, get to something and your immediate
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thought is, oh, I don't have a problem with that, circle it big
and come back to it because that's usually where the
strongholds are. Like if you're like, oh, I've
never done witchcraft. I've never done tarot cards.
Circle it, you know, like you may not have thought of it, but
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maybe somebody you were connected to brought it in or
brought in concepts for that andor like, hey, do this yoga pose
and you don't know that it's connected to those things,
right? So that's often how the enemy
gets the stronghold. Come back to it, pray through
it. If you find that that resistance
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like I can't or I don't want to,like you'll know, you'll feel
that fight inside it. You may need somebody to pray
with you as you go through deliverance with that, you know,
ask someone to do pray with you with that.
Just be like, hey, I've got thisstronghold.
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I just want to pray through it. And you know, don't be afraid.
If you know, if you're dealing with the Spirit, rebuke it.
You know, rebuke it, cast it out, remove its permissions and
its authorities. The only legal ground the
spirits have is unrighteousness.So how do we remove the
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unrighteousness that comes through confession?
I'm not the type that in a deliverance where I sit there
and, you know, yell or scream ordo all this commanding, I simply
say to the person, all right, it's just you and me, Start
dishing out the goods, confess the sins.
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And as they do that, you know, there comes that moment where
they're done. And all of a sudden it's like,
OK, command that spirit to go now.
And the spirit leaves. It has to leave.
I had one woman that when she confessed the spirit of fear,
all of a sudden that was when the spirit manifested in her and
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it was not her voice. Like she began to speak forth
and yell like in a way that was not her.
And I went to her and I said, you know, I commanded the spirit
to be silent and to lose her tongue 'cause that was the next
thing it tried to bind her tongue.
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So she couldn't confess. And I said, OK, now confess the
fears. And so I had her go deeper.
Instead of just in general confessing fear, she started to
confess what the fears were. She had 10 of em.
And by the time she got to that 10th one, she said, I confess
the fear of my mother. All of a sudden it was like now
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command the spirit of fear to go, and she was able to command
it to go and that was it. It was done.
The spirit was gone. You know, so you don't need.
To have their names, you know some people, some religious
group needs to have the demons names to cast them out.
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I don't, I, I deal, you know, just unless the Lord
specifically gives the name or if I know like I'm dealing with
a major principality, usually I find the spirits are connected
to the uncleanness that whateverthe sin is.
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So you know, if it's fear, you're going to have the spirit
of fear. If it's lust, you have the
spirit of lust, the spirit of wrath, the spirit of envy,
jealousy, the spirit of death, you know.
So unless the Lord gives the thespecific name or unless the
person is dealing with a specific name that comes out,
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you know, it's just in general command the spirits to go Well,
Jesse, thank. You again, so much for coming on
and sharing your insights and your experiences.
And for those who want to dig indeeper into your work, where's
the best place for them to connect with you and follow what
you're doing? Yeah, you can find.
Me on Kingdom Living with jesse.com, that's the best
(01:03:26):
place. And on there you'll find my
courses, my videos that I've done, as well as my unveiling of
the structure of the system series.
So I encourage you to check thatout.
Again, Jesse, I truly appreciateyou taking the time to be here
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and for being so open with everything you've shared,
especially on a topic that's often misunderstood or glossed
over. Repeat.
You're cutting. In and out there for a minute.
So go ahead and repeat that, I said.
Mahalo. Jesse, again, I truly appreciate
you taking the time for you being here and being so open
with everything you've shared, especially on a topic that's so
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often misunderstood or glossed over.
So thank you again, and I know the listeners will walk away
with a lot to think about and thank you.
And that brings us to an end of another episode.
A huge mahalo to my guest and friend Jesse Sabota for joining
me and sharing her deep insightson this important topic.
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Until the next time, guys, stay aware, stay curious, and as
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always, mahalo for listening. Ho ho kako, bye.
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I have swung too far, I can't focus.
You say who you are and I've noticed.
If I fall apart, could you hold this?
You got me digging way too deep in the feelings and I'm over
here looking for all the reasons.
(01:05:47):
So if you're going to stick around and if you plan to hold
me down, be patient 'cause I'm finding down that I might need
you. Yeah, don't want to mess up.
I can't do what you love. I can't get enough and I'm going
to get my heart. Reply myself and I can act up.
(01:06:35):
So if you're going to stick around and if you plan to hold
me down, be patient because I'm finding out, yeah.
(01:07:21):
Keep my heart by my side. I connect up, I get a turn.
Don't need a loop. You come in and thank you much.
Just be surprised.
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