October 26, 2025 • 34 mins
We dive into Peacemaker’s season two turn toward consequence and connection, map Gen V’s escalating power logic and its eerie ties to The Boys, and celebrate My Hero Academia’s Final season.
• Peacemaker’s Earth X detour
• DC links through Superman, Lex, and Flag Sr
• Gen V’s Marie evolving from blood control to cellular mastery
• Cypher and Godolkin host theory
• Crossovers perfectly in The Boys universe
• MHA’s Iron Might moments
• Twice’s legacy
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There was a cat.
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Thank you so much for tuning in to the WBM
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It's your boy X Fan.
Welcome back, everybody.
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And it's your boy Hospital in the middle.
Guys, do we have one hell of anepisode for you this week?
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We're talking little peacemaker.
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That's right, we're talking a little Gen V.
SPEAKER_04 (00:27):
Telling a little moniker in my life.
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We're gonna throw a little anime in my hero academia
in it.
That's right.
Right, guys.
And of course, we're gonna talkabout everything in between.
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In between yours We don't support AI on this
channel, however.
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Let's go!
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Guys, thank you so much for tuning in with us this
week.
We got a good one for you.
That's right, y'all.
SPEAKER_03 (01:01):
Uh, we're just gonna talk about everything that we're
watching this week.
That's right.
SPEAKER_04 (01:03):
There's a lot going on on entertainment right now.
In the transition toChristmassy, I feel like it's a
good transition in the middle ofgood stuff coming out, you know?
SPEAKER_03 (01:12):
Yeah, I think the fall is always like it's always
a setup for what's next.
Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (01:17):
Yeah, they're setting up next year, but it's
uh good stuff that the Christmasmovies and stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (01:21):
It's the end of summer.
Setup for what's next.
Dun dun dun dun dun dun 2026.
A setup.
SPEAKER_04 (01:29):
Speaking of setups, this is how we drift into it.
SPEAKER_03 (01:34):
I like it, I like it, I like it.
SPEAKER_04 (01:35):
Doom doom doom doom doom.
All right, okay, go for it.
Peacemakers.
SPEAKER_03 (01:39):
Peacemaker, yeah.
I thought it was your setup.
I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_04 (01:46):
This is how we set up.
Which is pretty much the wholeshow about uh Peacemaker, this
whole second season.
It's uh man, I can just spoil itfor you because you haven't seen
it, have you, Mark?
No, man, it lightened me.
Okay, bro, it's just a setupabout like the repercussion.
SPEAKER_03 (01:59):
By the way, spoilers for our viewers.
Spoilers.
Spoilers for spoilers foreverybody else.
SPEAKER_02 (02:04):
I know Nazis and an alternate world.
Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_04 (02:08):
It's pretty much a Peacemaker's character
development season.
Okay.
Where he reconciles uh, like,you know, I kill brutally people
that I shouldn't, like Rick Flywas his name.
SPEAKER_03 (02:18):
Yeah, like from the Suicide Squad movie, and like
season one, his brother.
Yeah, you know who also got alot of character development,
and like she had her own, likeliterally, she had her own plot
line, the blue bag that you seeit all the way through.
Amelia Harcourt.
The blonde chick?
The blonde chick.
The love interest, yes.
The love interest, but she'sshe's way more than a love
interest.
(02:38):
She gets her whole plot line andemotional growth.
She's really fucked up.
You know, there's a lot of justlike Peacemaker?
There's all these scenes, likeall these characters in in the
series are fucked up.
Everybody in the group is fuckedup in their own ways, but
Harcourt is fucked up in her ownways, and you see growth and the
way she plays it, like she hasthis scene with John Cena, or
with John Cena, with Peacemaker.
She has this scene where shegoes and gets him from Earth X,
(03:02):
which is Nazi Earth, and she'slike, Peacemaker is like, Well,
you know, what did it mean toyou?
You know, tell me what you whatyou what you feel, and she's
like, you know, she has nothingto give, but she's like, Are you
coming back or not?
Yeah.
Damn.
And it's like that nuance, like,you know, I can't I can't give
you what you want, but you know,I still want you to come back
with me.
SPEAKER_02 (03:21):
Um, that's a heavy hitting little line, like plot
line that she's got.
SPEAKER_03 (03:24):
Yeah, I wish I knew exactly what she said.
You gotta watch that scene.
I mean, anybody that's watchingknows the scene.
Go support it.
And uh James Gunn actuallybreaks it down in one of the
interviews.
It's like that's one of herfavor his favorite scenes
because that's his wife.
And that's James Gunn's wife.
That's right.
Yeah, the the blonde actress.
SPEAKER_04 (03:40):
His actual James Gunn's actual wife?
SPEAKER_03 (03:42):
IRL, right?
I can't believe we forgot hername.
Yes.
That's that's James Gunn's wife,his actual current wife.
My boy.
Yes.
So if you were dropping thenotes here, bro, don't worry
about it.
Right?
SPEAKER_00 (03:54):
No.
SPEAKER_03 (03:55):
But uh he breaks it down.
That's one of the things, likehe loved the way she played
that, and then they were able toget that emotional, like, uh
level depth, that emotionaldepth out of the scene.
And again, keep in mind we'retalking about you know a comic
book show.
So uh comic book shows havereally like come a long way, you
know.
The penguin won an Emmy.
(04:16):
Bro.
Or not the penguin, uh what'sher name?
She won the Emmy, ChristinaMiliati.
Oh, yeah, she sure did, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (04:22):
For best supporting female actress.
SPEAKER_03 (04:24):
Leading actress.
Leading actress, I apologize.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Best lead actress in a drama, orI don't know what the category
is, but she won the Emmy forthat for the penguin.
SPEAKER_02 (04:32):
I mean, it there's the penguin, what b uh The Joker
won an Yeah, yeah.
And so the Dark Knights.
I mean, comic book movies have arep specifically DC.
Like, they have had good weightbehind them as far as their
acting skills have gone.
SPEAKER_03 (04:45):
I think so, yeah.
Specifically DC, like presents abetter, like storyline.
They've won awards.
SPEAKER_02 (04:50):
Like, granted, you've been nominated, sure, for
like music and aspects and stufflike that in an Avengers movie,
you know, which is great.
Nobody's knocking that, but likefor the acting skills themselves
and for the story, you're like,damn, this was so good and so
believable.
I mean, I love RDJ, but And thiswas the follow-up after
Superman.
SPEAKER_03 (05:08):
Uh you did have to watch Superman to better
understand Peacemaker Season 2because of all the Superman
connections.
SPEAKER_04 (05:13):
Yeah, absolutely.
One of the things that, youknow, recircling back to the
Emmy thing, like I wouldn't besurprised if John Cena won one.
SPEAKER_02 (05:19):
Oh, you guys said that there was a really
emotional scene that hedelivered in, right?
SPEAKER_04 (05:22):
It was like that is John Cena's like the actor The
Rock thinks he is, likedramatic-wise.
Like, I know he thinks you knowwhat I'm saying, because it's
specifically tying it back toseason one.
SPEAKER_02 (05:31):
Not wrong.
SPEAKER_04 (05:32):
Uh, whenever in the season one they show that he has
his little brother and he killshim, and in this season, tying
it back to Superman, uh,Peacemaker like kind of uses his
multidimensional doorway that hehas that you know they or they
explain how he got it to go intoa dimension where his brother is
alive and his dad is is kind ofnot a Nazi, like a
(05:52):
comprehensive, understandablekind of man.
And him seeing that kind of fuckwith his head, you know, that it
was like perfect, but really notperfect, because it's a Nazi
world.
Yeah, he's like, Wow, it's thelife I've always wanted.
It's for the brothers here.
SPEAKER_03 (06:05):
It's funny when they call him out, he's like, This is
your perfect world.
He's like, You didn't notice allthe main camp on the death?
But because he was so focusedwith comfort.
SPEAKER_04 (06:14):
I understand that because like it wasn't that,
it's like it wasn't the world,the world was his brother and
his dad.
That's his world.
So it was like, yes, it was aperfect world because his
brothers are like the rule ofHitler on the wall.
He was so locked because theywould like work out in
adventures together, like akaiju would attack, and then
them three will like they don'tshow the fight, that's the
thing, you know.
But they they will three yes,budget for sure.
(06:34):
Budget for sure.
Yeah, uh they would like go thesame and they come back and
they're all eating burgers, allslimed out, like they know if
it's always perfect for him.
So that's cool.
But when they rescue Peacemakerfrom this world, you know, they
started beating the shit out ofhis brother, right?
Because this brother finds outit's not really his brother,
it's peacemaker from anotherdimension.
SPEAKER_03 (06:54):
And that he killed his actual brother.
Yeah, is that really whathappened?
SPEAKER_04 (06:57):
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (06:58):
And then how did he kill him?
Oh, well, the peacemaker fromEarth Egg before we get there,
yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (07:04):
So the whole point is like the being the shed, the
brother, right?
So he starts reconciling likehim killing his brother.
He's like, Stop, stop.
This is like a traumatic eventfor Peacemaker because he has
that growth where he realizedthat every time he feels like
he's cursed, every time he's inthe in a high situation, people
die.
You know, Rick is an examplethat dimension version of
(07:26):
Peacemaker, you know, he killedhim, and he'll he'll explain in
a minute how he did it.
So he's like starts toreconcile, like, man, you I'm
the problem here.
Like, there's always violencearound, which is a complete 360
for Peacemaker for me.
But I love it because it JamesGunn is a fantastic director
showing like character growth,you know.
And for Peacemaker in seasontwo, that that was like pretty
(07:47):
much the the highlight ofPeacemaker growth, not only as a
brother, but as you know, alover too, with Amelia Hardcore,
the character, as well, beingunderstandable.
This girl's complex, just likehe's complex, so he's gotta
understand he's a complexrelationship.
You know, it's not black andwhite, you know.
You gotta understand the kind ofgirl you're dating.
So it realizes that I'm fuckedup, you're fucked up, and this
(08:09):
relationship is fucked up, butthat's how it's supposed to kind
of work.
That's how it works.
Yes, but and then she's kind oflike telling her, like, like she
can't tell you I love youbecause that's not the
relationship we have, you know.
But we'll get in a gunfighttogether, and that's so you
know.
Like I'll I'll take a fuckingbullet.
Yeah, yeah, but you won't I youwon't see me here, I'll I I'll
lose a limb, and that's meshowing you I love you.
My actions, yeah.
(08:29):
Yes, yes.
That's the kind of girl Harkouris.
SPEAKER_03 (08:34):
You find out that uh Harkour had a thing with Rick
Flag, even though Rick Flag waswith Enchantress at the time.
Yes, uh, but you find out thatthey were fucking and they were
like childhood friends.
So she actually hated Peacemakerbecause he wasn't one that
killed Rick Flagg.
So that was there's a bunch oflevels that they added.
SPEAKER_04 (08:52):
But she understands that she was following the
orders of Wallace.
SPEAKER_03 (08:55):
Yeah, Waller.
Yeah, Waller.
She understands, yeah.
Like, because she's also doneall these fucked up things
following orders.
SPEAKER_04 (09:00):
Yeah, and Rick Rick saw the report, it was Waller
who commanded it.
So he just hated him, they couldpull the trigger, but she I
still think that he's she'sunder Argus' thumb.
Like, he's still like, oh fuck,Waller, you know.
SPEAKER_03 (09:13):
Yeah, we don't see much of Waller in Peacemaker
season two.
She's a movie-level actress.
Yeah, 100%.
The fact that she's even in it.
But I think she's gonna I thinkshe's gonna come back as a main
character.
What's her name?
Main actress?
I forgot her.
She's high level.
Speaking of uh movie level, likeI I think this is a setup for
the Man of Tomorrow sequel.
James Gunn like setting up thestoryline.
(09:34):
Some people were theorizing thatthe next big bad would be uh
Rick Flack Sr.
You know?
Like he's the one that's gonnabe moving between the scenes as
uh as the bad character.
Wow, as the character thatSuperman's gonna have to stop
next.
Nice.
That's not crazy.
He set up Planet Salvation,which is a priest in planet.
SPEAKER_02 (09:51):
Oh, yeah, tell me gotta give the ending because
the way you guys saw it waspretty cool.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
SPEAKER_04 (09:56):
How does it Peacemaker kill the other
Peacemaker in that thing is likehilarious?
So they like the dad watch it.
The dad are the dad go huntingone day and they find an alien
that just crash landing, right?
The dad is like, oh fuck, youjust shoot it because you know a
redneck in this in thisuniverse, right?
And when they shoot it, theytake up his little device, and
that device was like when youput it next to a door, it like
(10:17):
opens portals.
SPEAKER_03 (10:18):
Yeah, yeah, bring the portal to that dimension.
It's got 99 doors.
They do mention that at onepoint, and every door is a
different dimension.
SPEAKER_04 (10:26):
And in that dimension, when he got there,
when he got at the Peacemaker'sdimension, Peacemaker just
happened to get back from amission, and Peacemaker wasn't
even hearing it.
He was just, I don't give afuck.
Da that just shooting him.
Yeah, he was like, Who the fuckis he?
He's like, bro, hold on, wasn'tlistening.
He just wasn't having it andjust really went after him.
He said, Fuck it.
Pressed a button, and thisrocket ship made him go up,
stabbed him against a fuckingmetal thing.
(10:47):
Yeah.
That's hilarious.
Yeah.
He was like, oh fuck.
He's like panicking, like, whatthe fuck just happened?
SPEAKER_03 (10:53):
I just killed myself.
That's fucking crazy.
Don't think about it, Rick.
Don't think about it.
Don't think about it, Rick.
Yeah.
That's fucking crazy.
It's so funny that they chose todo the Earth X thing.
Because there's so many ways togo with like a Nazi Earth, you
know?
Oh, yeah.
100%.
So I think also, did the brothersurvive after all?
You see him reading towards theend.
SPEAKER_04 (11:14):
Well, yeah, he survived because the girlfriend
was gonna shoot him in the face.
Like, yo, I can't have youfollowing us.
So she was about to cap him, butpolice shows up.
SPEAKER_03 (11:21):
Police shows up.
Yeah, yeah.
So I think the brother survivingis maybe a setup for like he's
gonna eventually want revenge.
Yeah.
So he could get a couple ofheroes from Earth X and somehow
uh come to the you know to theRGR.
SPEAKER_02 (11:34):
I'm thinking Evil Justice League, bro.
You can always do it.
SPEAKER_03 (11:37):
Or like Superman in Earth X is Overlord.
Oh, yeah, right.
Yeah, or it's like Ultra Man.
SPEAKER_04 (11:43):
That will be a cool setup.
Batman versus Owl Man?
Yeah, shit like that.
SPEAKER_03 (11:47):
Yeah, well, that's another one that's another
Earth, I think in Earth X.
Man, I forget the name.
We're thinking about theanimated one.
SPEAKER_04 (11:52):
Well, anyway, so Rick acquires the device, right?
And then one day he just narcokidnaps fucking Peacemaker, and
he says, like, thanks forvolunteering.
He's like, I didn't volunteer.
Now what this paper says.
SPEAKER_02 (12:02):
You say Rick Flag seen is a senior.
Okay, senior.
Sorry, I was trying tounderstand.
SPEAKER_04 (12:06):
And he throws him against the world, and then like
he's in like in the jungle-esquearea, which is the god area, the
god playground they call it.
It's like old gods, like the oldgods, the one that uh what's his
name with the Omega sign?
What's his face?
You with the yeah, upside down.
Oh, dark side.
Well, dark side typically willgo train per se.
This is a kind of crazy asspersonal.
SPEAKER_03 (12:26):
I don't know if that's the where they're gonna
take it, but that's it.
That's the or the origin ofsalvation in the comic books.
Yeah.
Like they send they send LexLuther, they send the Joker,
they send all the billionsthere.
But that's yeah, that's whatit's crazy.
And it turns out to be is a darkside training ground for the
parademons.
You know the parademons in thatmovie Superman too?
SPEAKER_01 (12:44):
Whoa.
SPEAKER_03 (12:45):
From that storyline, it's a it's a training ground
for parademons.
So they you know, the billionsend up like going, you know,
yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (12:53):
And they so that's their Super Saiyan arc?
They just spent like thehyperbolic time chamber, they
spent two years there.
SPEAKER_04 (12:58):
Well, I don't know what the comics are, but I know
they send them there just tolike because they're in trouble,
you know, like you're in jail.
Yeah, but I can't raise a plan.
SPEAKER_03 (13:05):
Yeah, they just don't know what that planet
ended up being.
SPEAKER_04 (13:07):
You just gotta trust the gun, bro.
SPEAKER_03 (13:09):
Yeah, trust the gun.
And I think the thing aboutJames Gunn is that he also takes
a lot of concepts from the comicbooks and he makes them like his
own, you know.
He he doesn't really he doesn'talways stick to the to the
source material.
Yeah, no, I like that.
So I do like that he puts likehis very own spin into a lot of
it.
In a good way.
Like we're not talking about,you know, some of the stuff
(13:30):
Marvel has done.
Like James Gunn actually puts acool spin into some of that
stuff.
Oh, like Superman's parents.
Like Superman's krypton parentstelling him to take over Earth.
It's a very like different takefrom you know the comic book
take.
SPEAKER_02 (13:43):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (13:44):
That's very, very true.
You guys know what I'm talkingabout?
Yeah, yeah.
On the movie?
SPEAKER_04 (13:47):
Have a harem.
SPEAKER_03 (13:48):
Yeah, have a heron, have a harem.
But uh, but yeah, I think uhit's all set up for the next
movie for what's next in the DCuh you, so we'll see.
SPEAKER_02 (13:57):
I'm excited because again, they I think he says why
not?
Instead of it can't, I think hesays why not.
More over James Gunn kind ofthing, you know?
SPEAKER_03 (14:04):
Yeah, oh seeing Lex Luther in Peacemaker was weird
was great.
Yeah, he was there.
SPEAKER_04 (14:08):
He was the one advocating for the pr which
actually Superman's concept oflike uh Lex one in a prison.
Saying all the meta humans.
Settlement haters there becausehe's just mean, just a Division
I hater.
SPEAKER_03 (14:18):
Division I hater.
Division one hater.
SPEAKER_04 (14:26):
I imagine a lot of similarities with other kind of
comic book sources.
SPEAKER_03 (14:32):
Like This is your segue.
Yeah, so the segue, I believe,is for Softpass.
SPEAKER_01 (14:38):
Soft pass.
SPEAKER_02 (14:39):
Gen V, man.
Gen V for me has been a goodseries so far for Amazon Prime.
Season two has recently droppedon it.
There are six episodes in rightnow.
I don't, I'm assuming eight orten out of the entire season.
SPEAKER_03 (14:51):
Yeah, I think there's three more episodes
left.
Yeah.
So we're we're about halfway,more than halfway through a
season.
Yeah, and it's I love that theydropped three episodes the first
time.
Yeah.
A lot of ass stuff in the firstthree episodes.
But other than that, other thanthat, it's great.
There's that one student thathas a singularity in his
butthole.
Yeah, for like literally, whydid we hear why is he a hero,
bro?
He basically has a dark hole inhis butthole.
SPEAKER_02 (15:12):
Yeah, like his he's an infinite gaping ass.
But anyway.
Um, the story itself.
Yeah, yeah.
But that's the first threeepisodes.
Overlooking that, the storyitself, as far as like
progressive.
SPEAKER_04 (15:23):
There's a guy like that in X-Men, I think.
With the universe in hisasshole.
SPEAKER_02 (15:29):
Anyway, no, the uh the show itself is actually a
progressive story for the boys,in my opinion, a lot.
SPEAKER_03 (15:34):
I like how connected it is to the boys.
SPEAKER_02 (15:36):
Now the fact that they're dropping, bro, spoiler
obviously for this entireseason, but they got homeboy,
uh, give me the tour.
No, no, no, what the hell washis name?
John Carlos Esposito came back?
SPEAKER_03 (15:45):
Yeah.
I did not see that coming.
That was out of left- I waslike, yo, are you fucked up?
This guy's still like, oh,that's great.
I forgot he was still alive.
I thought they had killed himoff at some point.
SPEAKER_02 (15:58):
When they brought back the daughter, her daughter
is a teenager now, and I waslike, Oh, the daughter's power
of having like Medusa mouth,yeah.
He looks like his mother, I'mtelling you.
SPEAKER_03 (16:08):
But anyway, it's great.
Somebody's face off.
There you go.
SPEAKER_02 (16:13):
Anyway, great freaking series so far.
The fact that uh the maincharacter Marie is like God tier
level power now.
SPEAKER_03 (16:19):
Oh, the way they yeah, they introduced him to
Thomas Godolkin, like he createdthe soups.
I can't remember he was he wasalso a Nazi because I think
everybody that that started Botwere Nazis.
Yeah, like in the 1930s orwhatever, at least whenever they
were there.
Yeah, man, it was insane.
Connections are interestingbecause they're saying that
Marie could be just as powerfulas Homelander.
SPEAKER_02 (16:38):
Yeah, so uh there was a Project Odessa that took
place, like dozens of childrenwere killed in the process.
They were all basically beingshot up with V at the embryo
stage, and the only children toactually ever be able to
successfully carry through theprocess.
One is Homelander, and thesecond is this girl, Marie.
And that's why it's like shit,and Homelander's Superman in
this universe, right?
(16:58):
So it's like if there is apower, what could rival if not
supersede that?
Because that's what they keeptelling.
It's like you could be the mostpowerful soup ever.
What's her power?
So she can She's a bloodbender.
SPEAKER_03 (17:10):
She's a bloodbender.
But uh it evolved to so muchmore than that.
SPEAKER_02 (17:14):
Yeah, now she's able, like, he's basically and
it's interesting because the waythe guy trains her, and he
trains everybody, he tells himhe's like, and the way he speaks
about powers is like he knows somuch about them.
You know what I'm saying?
And it's because well, ourtheory is this the the body that
we end up seeing inside thisiron line.
Yeah, originally the audience isled to believe that it's uh
(17:36):
Cypher's grandfather.
Come to find out that it's noteven the grandfather, it's the
original creator of God You, theuniversity, that all the soups
go to.
And apparently his body wasburnt up.
He got burnt up and caught in anexplosion or something like that
in the 1980s, and he's beenconsidered dead ever since then.
There's a moment where Mariescans Cypher's body and she
doesn't see any V in his system.
The V obviously would indicatehis powers.
(17:56):
She's like, he doesn't have anypowers.
That's the big gimmick abouthim.
That's what we're again, theaudience is led to believe.
There's a moment where what'sthe partner's name?
I can't Cypher or Marie'spartner.
Oh Jordan.
Jordan.
Jordan uh ends up being takenover by Cypher, like 100%.
There's a moment where Marie canalmost explode him because she
can like she ends up attachingto every single cell in his
(18:16):
body.
SPEAKER_03 (18:17):
And it was unbelievable.
Sometimes it's interesting thatwhere they break down how powers
can evolve in a certain way inadvance, yes, exactly.
Like she's not she's notthinking about what she could do
with her power.
It's like, yeah, she couldcontrol blood.
But controlling blood could leadto so much more than that.
SPEAKER_02 (18:34):
Yeah, what more?
I mean, if you okay, but that'sa cellular level kind of thing,
you know what I'm saying?
So what else can you fix?
What else can you manipulate?
It's just blood to you rightnow, but everything has blood
inside of it.
Is it anything with the liquid?
Is it anything with theheartbeat?
What do you feel?
And that's when she startsconnecting, like literally, bro,
like blood bending, like I canfeel it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like dead ass.
There's even the moment whereshe's like, he's like, put the
fucking hand down.
(18:54):
It doesn't do anything, stupid.
SPEAKER_03 (18:56):
Yeah, and she's like, he's like feeling because
that's uh that's such a thingfrom all like superhero shows.
Every superhero show, yeah.
Like the struggling with thehandle if it's a mind ability,
you shouldn't.
I mean, the hand doesn'tshouldn't do any fucking thing.
SPEAKER_02 (19:08):
Yeah, and they even talk about self-harm, believe it
or not, in this one.
When homegirl's uh bulimic andshe thinks it's only she only
does it because of her powers.
SPEAKER_03 (19:14):
I mean, that's been her thing the whole time.
SPEAKER_02 (19:16):
Yeah, well, you're under the impression that it's
only because of her power, thenshe finds out.
She's like, I actually do have aproblem.
She's like, I there's a momentnow where I don't want to stop
and all I want to do is throw upand I can't.
And she's like, Oh shit, thereis something wrong with me.
And then the way, same way Marieuses her powers, she doesn't
have to cut her hand open with awith a pocket knife every time,
but she chooses to.
And that's what he tells her.
He's just like self-mutilationis one way to express anger and
(19:36):
frustration or whatever.
He's like, But you don't have touse that in order to access your
powers.
It's interesting, bro.
Like the way, like he said, likethey pushes it.
Yeah, it's it's a really, reallycool aspect.
SPEAKER_04 (19:44):
But anyway, I guess you're like an Akita style
level.
She just walks into the room,like in the hallway, and just
Yes, yes, 100%.
SPEAKER_02 (19:52):
Yeah.
So that's basically what they'retrying to push her as.
But when Cypher takes overJordan's body, he's just like,
he's just another meat puppet.
And so that's where it connectsback to that's where okay.
SPEAKER_03 (20:02):
The theory, my theory is yes, go for it.
Like Cypher, it's not likethat's not Cypher.
Like, well, we we at this pointthink like the man in the
hyperotic chamber is ThomasGodolkin.
So Thomas Godolkin is actuallytaking over this body and calls
himself Cypher.
SPEAKER_02 (20:18):
Correct.
SPEAKER_03 (20:18):
And that's why there's no B, there's no B
compound in this body.
Because he's already taken overhim.
SPEAKER_02 (20:24):
Yeah, he's just a regular human, he's just a
regular human.
SPEAKER_03 (20:26):
So he can hop from host to host.
Yeah.
And he talks about how Jordanfeels like a glove.
Maybe he's grooming him to behis next host.
His next puppet.
SPEAKER_02 (20:34):
And because his like his physical that because the
male version of him isinvulnerable.
He's he's Superman damn near.
He has super strength andinvulnerability.
But yet when he goes to thefemale side, he has like the
telekinetic powers or whatever.
SPEAKER_00 (20:45):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (20:45):
And really cool abilities, don't get me wrong.
But yeah, if he got that shit,he'd be next level.
But now the question is becausethere's a moment where Marie's
uh she has a sister, right?
That she's been trying to get ahold of the entire season.
She ends up uh being found andCypher slips her throat.
She dies, bro.
She runs into the room to try tosave her.
She's already spilt out.
Like, we don't even know howlong she's been dead for at this
point.
(21:06):
But because in that moment ofpressure, she rises to the
occasion and she ends up sealingthe wound on her sister's neck
and somehow absorbs the lifeforce of everyone around her
because they all start freakingout.
Like I'm assuming, bro.
SPEAKER_03 (21:20):
That's interesting.
SPEAKER_02 (21:20):
They almost had my like their brain, they almost
had like aneurysms, dog.
SPEAKER_03 (21:24):
They all start bleeding.
SPEAKER_02 (21:24):
Everybody starts bleeding.
It was and sync.
Everybody's like, they're like,what the fuck?
Like, Marie, stop.
Stop.
SPEAKER_03 (21:31):
Yeah, they're in pain, bro.
They're in agony.
And then boom, she comes back.
Yeah, because you did see like ayou did see like a light over
her face, over the dead sister'sface.
You see like a light going likeYeah, bro.
So like life force regeneratoror something.
So now she's like, I didn'tthink about that.
I was like, why is she likehurting everybody else to bring
her back?
SPEAKER_02 (21:48):
Remember, she could feel it.
And that's when he's like, she'slike, it was so easy.
SPEAKER_03 (21:51):
And I was like, oh, that's scary, bro.
But yeah, no, so she's gone,she's gotten full Qatara in the
last third.
Yeah, bro.
So she's locked in 100%.
Now it's like if you get thatreference, if you know, you
know.
SPEAKER_02 (22:03):
But now the thing is, okay, but Cypher's character
has been basically saying, like,oh, his love interest, the smart
chick from uh the boys.
SPEAKER_03 (22:09):
It was also surprising seeing her back.
SPEAKER_02 (22:10):
She makes it in the you know, like the genius from
the boys or whatever.
SPEAKER_03 (22:13):
The one that would like give herself lobotomies to
fuck uh to fuck the fish boy, uhthe deep, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (22:18):
Her.
So she makes an appearance,she's fucking Cypher, right?
But there's a moment where she'sfucking him, but she looks at
the body, the burnt body of thewhat we think is uh the God you
guy, or Mr.
Godokin, uh whatever, and ThomasGodokin.
And it's weird, bro.
We're like, what the fuck?
And that's where it kind ofconnects.
SPEAKER_03 (22:34):
The voice is just a weird shout.
SPEAKER_02 (22:35):
It's a weird ass show, but she's like, she's
basically showing that I'm intoyou.
Like, this is just the body,obviously, for us to make this
work, but blah, blah, blah.
And she tells him, she's like,You're running out of time.
And he's like, Don't worry aboutit, I got this.
And he injures himselfthroughout the process, and
there's no healing factor in it.
Like, it just goes to confirmthat he doesn't really have a
super, that this is just a host,more or less for him.
And but yeah, this this mostrecent episode ends up.
SPEAKER_03 (22:55):
So we gotta we gotta find out, we gotta find out
because yeah, what's gonnahappen next on it?
SPEAKER_02 (22:59):
But it's gonna be.
And I think it's to continue hertraining.
It's just to keep it pushing tosee what else she can do now,
bro.
Yeah.
Because ultimately, I think thathe wants to heal his body or to
be able to do something with itthat obviously that nobody else
can do.
SPEAKER_03 (23:19):
When you said that, I think that's a good one.
Because if she can bring thedead back, then why not?
She could probably healsomebody.
SPEAKER_02 (23:26):
Yeah, yeah.
Cellular regeneration, it'd be,you know, it's something she'd
be able to do at that point.
Yeah.
If her powers allowed her to,you know?
Especially because if she'sgonna be the only one.
SPEAKER_03 (23:35):
If you want to tie it into the boys at this point,
if she could.
Like Gen B, the first seasonended with Homelander showing
up.
SPEAKER_02 (23:41):
Yeah, and Butcher, remember, he goes to the to the
he ends up in the woods at thevery end for a second.
You can see him.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (23:46):
He's like, uh So uh Gen season one, I I thought it
was just a little Easter egg.
Yeah.
But then in the boys, uhStarlight makes an appearance.
Starlight makes an appearance inthe in the in the beginning of
season two, but then in theboys, the virus had a lot of the
virus that was trying to be usedto kill all those soups was
created in Gen V.
And then she tried to they theykeep on working that plot line
(24:08):
in the boys.
SPEAKER_02 (24:09):
Yeah, because the governor, remember, she ends up
like taking the the chemical orwhatever, whatever, and that's
how it all ends up tying.
SPEAKER_03 (24:15):
So now I think Jim now I think Jen B is just
another season of the boys, justwith a different set of
characters.
SPEAKER_02 (24:20):
Yeah, it it ties in that well to it, bro.
The fact that uh John CarlosEsposito came in, yeah, and uh
Victoria's daughter.
Yeah, she came in, and againthey they mentioned that.
Oh, my mom met you, or yourpowers are really similar.
So again, even then they havethat bond kinship already.
SPEAKER_03 (24:32):
I'm like, oh bro, she's already uh a leg in.
Now now he's really tied intoit, bro.
Like now it feels like oneuniverse.
SPEAKER_02 (24:39):
But my thing is it she would probably be the only
one.
She's the replacement of the hiphopper, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
She's she's the next level ofthat.
If there was a version to stopHomelander, this would
definitely be.
SPEAKER_03 (24:47):
And I bet you she's eventually gonna do something
like that.
SPEAKER_02 (24:50):
Oh, she has to do something crazy, bro.
SPEAKER_03 (24:51):
Like pop some heads.
SPEAKER_02 (24:53):
So I'm excited for that, though.
But Gen V.
So we're excited the seasonfinale is getting ready to come
out in the next couple weeks.
A few weeks.
One more thing we gotta talkabout that uh just came back.
SPEAKER_03 (25:00):
Oh, speaking of powers or quirks.
That's a good one.
Damn it, that was a smoothblinker and everything.
Anyway, my hero academia.
What do you see on that timerright there, bro?
SPEAKER_02 (25:09):
A lot, 25.
25, 25, 26.
SPEAKER_03 (25:11):
Okay, we we we we got five minutes.
Yeah, five minutes.
Yeah, it's only two episodes.
Anyway.
SPEAKER_02 (25:15):
Now for a lesson, bro.
SPEAKER_03 (25:17):
I am here.
Because I am here.
Here's my thing.
Last season.
SPEAKER_02 (25:21):
It ends with that basically.
SPEAKER_03 (25:24):
But last season there were so many episodes,
like there was so much going onlast season because this is the
final war.
Yeah, there's uh there's abattle over here, there's a
battle over here, you got Gungaside, you got the hospital side,
you got the island side, and ofcourse the the coffin in the
sky.
Correct.
There's so many battles thatwatching it week to week, I was
kind of like, okay, I'm gonnajust let it build up because
this shit is so good.
(25:45):
So I let it build up, and then Ijust didn't catch up with it.
Same.
Like I never I I was gonna waitfor the English episodes to
drop.
Yep.
So I was like, okay, I'lleventually watch it.
And then the new season cameout, and I just binge.
Like, I had like maybe six oreight episodes.
Yeah, same.
The last thing that I watchedwas when Shoto beat Dabby the
(26:06):
first time, and then he cameback.
SPEAKER_02 (26:08):
Yeah, Deku showing up was the last thing I
remember.
Deku shows up.
SPEAKER_03 (26:11):
Deku shows up.
Yeah, Deku shows up.
That was the last thing I'veever seen.
That's that's I think that's Iwas I was right there.
Yep.
And then Bakugo quote unquotedied, but not really.
Right.
Best genius.
Yeah, but then so much happensafter that.
SPEAKER_01 (26:23):
Dog, that's number how did I put this down?
So much.
So much beat, dog.
So much big.
SPEAKER_03 (26:34):
They got the the Joji episode with the
heteromorphs, so that takes likethree episodes.
Like all the people that don'tlook like humans because powers
messes them up.
That's a good storyline.
It was a good storyline, butthen the one that was actually
so peak was fucking Ochako and Ican't say that.
Toga.
I mean, the shit, bro.
I was like, I still want to knowyou.
(26:55):
Bro.
SPEAKER_04 (26:56):
But they like love, like I feel like that she like
had a crush on her or something.
SPEAKER_03 (27:00):
She well, she like she loved her.
She develops like likes for likeshe falls in love easily with
what she likes.
Okay.
So she gets hyperfixated, Iguess.
SPEAKER_04 (27:10):
Oh, so she was hyper-fixated now, taco cham.
SPEAKER_03 (27:13):
Yeah, yeah, I guess you could call it that if you
could like give it like a realworld comparison.
SPEAKER_04 (27:16):
That makes sense because she was like an
assassin, is assassin-ishvillain, right?
Like her power was like she cancopy mimic your face.
SPEAKER_03 (27:23):
If she drinks your blood.
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (27:25):
But she was like an assassin.
SPEAKER_03 (27:26):
And then her power evolves to like she could even
like copy quirk.
SPEAKER_02 (27:30):
That's right, that's right.
SPEAKER_03 (27:31):
So she she copies uh twice as quirk.
SPEAKER_02 (27:33):
Well, it only works, remember, because she can't use
Shigaraki's power.
She can't use Shigaraki's insomebody else's, but it's
because she doesn't have a truelevel of love for them.
SPEAKER_03 (27:39):
That's what she loved in the episode.
Yeah, that she by the way of herbringing that back, whenever she
goes like what is it?
Sadman death parade.
Because he's only dead, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (27:50):
That was so fucking dope, dog.
SPEAKER_03 (27:54):
She goes like that legion.
SPEAKER_02 (27:56):
I'm like, and that was my thing.
That power by itself is so OP,bro, it's broken.
Yeah, you would win anywhere.
There's no way.
I don't care how many bulletsyou got.
Clipping yourself over and overand over.
It's game over.
And that was it.
They knew if they couldn't takeout twice his ability, they'd be
fucked.
Yeah.
And you know what?
That's exactly what Hots had totake him out back then.
(28:16):
He was still a fucking now, bro.
SPEAKER_03 (28:18):
It was so important for Hawks to take him out.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (28:20):
You know, and it was such a bastard when he did it
too, bro.
You felt so bad for him.
You're like, bro, why?
It was a game.
Strategically, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (28:28):
Yeah, he was the Omega level for sure.
And you see it in the episode,it's like Omega level, you're
right.
SPEAKER_04 (28:33):
Yeah, Omega level for sure.
SPEAKER_03 (28:34):
She's turning the title of the war or the battle.
Yes, with that one quirk, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (28:38):
With that one quirk, yeah.
That's it.
And it wasn't even the original.
That's what I'm saying.
If it was the real guy, if itwas him, yeah, probably even
worse.
SPEAKER_03 (28:45):
But anyway, and then the Chaka's power evolving, bro.
That's when I was like, oh fuck,let's go.
SPEAKER_01 (28:50):
She's just like everybody float.
SPEAKER_03 (28:52):
Everybody's like, you didn't touch me, and she's
just everybody starts floating.
It's like everybody that wastouching each other starts
floating, so the whole Legionstarts floating and just
everyone is up in the air.
And you're like, you see, likethe pink.
Yeah, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (29:05):
It's so fuego, dog.
It was so fuego.
SPEAKER_03 (29:08):
I can't believe I had to watch today.
SPEAKER_02 (29:10):
Same thing I thought.
I was like, well, at least theEnglish stuff are out.
But uh, but no, man, season two,or the final season, right, is
out right now.
SPEAKER_03 (29:17):
The first episode Oh, by the way, like the the
second to last episode of thelast season is when All Might
like rage baits him.
Yeah, Iron Man.
SPEAKER_01 (29:26):
With the armor suit, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (29:27):
Iron suit, the current uh armor all might, but
then I think on the internet itgoes your name is Iron Might.
I like that.
But no, no, no, no, I think theofficial is Armor All Might, but
I Iron Might is a community.
It's like I am a I gotta show myface.
Oh shit.
(29:47):
Like, you're not gonna be ableto ignore me.
No, no, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (29:50):
And then he just everybody's ability that he uses
too, he's just like, Let me yourstrength class today, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (30:00):
I was like, how am I still getting pumped when you
know he's gonna die, bro?
SPEAKER_02 (30:03):
You know he's not gonna make it, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (30:05):
He's not gonna die.
SPEAKER_02 (30:06):
Bro, okay, okay, okay, okay.
So, real quick, the fact that heuses everybody's fucking
ability.
He uses what is it?
Deku's fucking his shoot style.
His shoot style.
He uses uh Pinky's fucking acid.
The acid, right?
SPEAKER_03 (30:18):
He uses everybody.
Tailman, tentacle, he uses lasernavel.
Dude, everything, man.
He uses the engine to uh toaccelerate.
Yes, dog.
Even the waves from the mottofor the ice.
SPEAKER_01 (30:30):
Everything, dog.
SPEAKER_04 (30:31):
Oh, so it's a little homeboy.
We never talked about a littlehomeboy, was a traitor.
The little Oh, the belly dude,yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (30:39):
But look at me, shine, brother.
He showed up in that last one,though, dog.
I mean, the fact and then theinvisible chick has her moment.
SPEAKER_03 (30:47):
Naval legs.
Command, bro.
Like double, triple angle.
SPEAKER_02 (30:54):
Absolutely, bro.
For some reason, double cheekedup on a Tuesday night for no
reason.
SPEAKER_04 (30:57):
You can't even see it.
Not even.
SPEAKER_01 (30:59):
I'm pretty sure.
SPEAKER_02 (30:59):
Yeah, and even though she's like, Yummit! Yeah,
but it's great.
But again, you're like, wow, andthat's what she's doing.
SPEAKER_03 (31:04):
I love it that even some of the side characters get
their moment to shake it.
SPEAKER_02 (31:06):
They genuinely do.
SPEAKER_03 (31:11):
Or a movie, one or the other died.
No, it's gonna be it's supposedto be a final season, and it's
gonna be broken up into twoparts.
So it's probably gonna run 24episodes.
Or I'm not sure, don't give me astart lying to you.
But last season was broken upinto two parts, and it was 20
something episodes.
SPEAKER_02 (31:25):
I I'm excited for it.
It's been ecstatic.
The fact that Stain shows up atthe end of that first episode,
and I was like, yo, I I neversaw it coming.
Never saw it coming, but thefact that All Might's put up
such a good fight.
SPEAKER_03 (31:38):
I mean, and then on that second episode, I haven't
finished that second episode.
SPEAKER_02 (31:42):
I haven't even started it yet, but I know it's
like that he covered it up.
SPEAKER_03 (31:46):
I already saw a scene on there that I'm like, oh
brother, peak.
Peak?
I don't know how people can saymy hero is not peak, bro.
I don't know how many.
You gotta wait to see theending.
SPEAKER_02 (31:58):
Don't put the fries in the bag, bro.
SPEAKER_03 (32:00):
Sometimes I start watching it and I'm like, eh,
you know, maybe it's not asgood.
But then I start watching itagain.
It's like, bro, storytellingpeak, bro.
Dead Dead Stain says Do it allmy let's go, bro.
I was so ready.
Actually, uh Shoto at the end ofthe last season going and
(32:21):
stopping Davy because David wasabout to explode or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the whole family's there.
SPEAKER_02 (32:26):
The whole crew shows up.
Don't worry about it.
We got you, fam.
SPEAKER_03 (32:29):
And then fucking Ida and Shoto turning into a fighter
jet.
Like, yeah, bro.
Literally, fighter jet.
They just went supersonic orlike faster than the speed of
sound and light.
Yeah, dude.
Like, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (32:42):
I love it.
Fire.
It's been an amazing series tobe a good thing.
SPEAKER_03 (32:45):
And speaking of quirk evolutions, that's what's
crazy.
Like, I think he she one of thereporters breaks it down when
they're watching the Ochakafight.
It's like, this is the uh thequirk doomsday theory.
The quirks are gonna go uheventually gonna evolve.
Destroy the world evolved sostrong that they're not gonna be
unstoppable.
You think he's talking about themultiply quirk?
But in reality, we're talkingabout a Chaco quirk that has
(33:05):
evolved so far that she couldfloat like everything.
SPEAKER_02 (33:09):
Yeah.
Damn, I didn't think about thatone.
SPEAKER_03 (33:11):
So that's the quirk evolution, like all the quirks
have evolved so far.
SPEAKER_02 (33:14):
Yeah, that theory is that eventually, okay, where's
it gonna stop for her power?
You know, if this is where she'sat as a teenager.
Yeah, you know?
SPEAKER_03 (33:21):
Fuck, don't let her get 30 years, bro.
You think her quirk is like notthat useful?
But hey, she's also like megalevel.
SPEAKER_02 (33:27):
Right, bro.
If she was in construction, youwould never need a permit for
that.
SPEAKER_03 (33:32):
That was her original goal.
Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_02 (33:34):
Again, full circle.
So I'd like to stay tuned forthe whole season.
That's right.
You know what?
Sugi, what'd you think?
It's your homeland.
I do want to know what youthink.
SPEAKER_01 (33:42):
Oh no.
It looks like our time is up.
SPEAKER_03 (33:44):
By the way, I bought uh Fira XWare's uh my hero
academia suit.
It's badass.
Shout out to Fira XWare.
SPEAKER_02 (33:50):
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Is that is that the Gen Z there?
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There was a cat.
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Guys, do we have one hell of anepisode for you this week?
SPEAKER_04 (00:24):
We're talking little peacemaker.
SPEAKER_02 (00:25):
That's right, we're talking a little Gen V.
SPEAKER_04 (00:27):
Telling a little moniker in my life.
SPEAKER_03 (00:28):
We're gonna throw a little anime in my hero academia
in it.
That's right.
Right, guys.
And of course, we're gonna talkabout everything in between.
SPEAKER_01 (00:35):
In between yours We don't support AI on this
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That's the banger.
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Guys, thank you so much for tuning in with us this
week.
We got a good one for you.
That's right, y'all.
SPEAKER_03 (01:01):
Uh, we're just gonna talk about everything that we're
watching this week.
That's right.
SPEAKER_04 (01:03):
There's a lot going on on entertainment right now.
In the transition toChristmassy, I feel like it's a
good transition in the middle ofgood stuff coming out, you know?
SPEAKER_03 (01:12):
Yeah, I think the fall is always like it's always
a setup for what's next.
Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (01:17):
Yeah, they're setting up next year, but it's
uh good stuff that the Christmasmovies and stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (01:21):
It's the end of summer.
Setup for what's next.
Dun dun dun dun dun dun 2026.
A setup.
SPEAKER_04 (01:29):
Speaking of setups, this is how we drift into it.
SPEAKER_03 (01:34):
I like it, I like it, I like it.
SPEAKER_04 (01:35):
Doom doom doom doom doom.
All right, okay, go for it.
Peacemakers.
SPEAKER_03 (01:39):
Peacemaker, yeah.
I thought it was your setup.
I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_04 (01:46):
This is how we set up.
Which is pretty much the wholeshow about uh Peacemaker, this
whole second season.
It's uh man, I can just spoil itfor you because you haven't seen
it, have you, Mark?
No, man, it lightened me.
Okay, bro, it's just a setupabout like the repercussion.
SPEAKER_03 (01:59):
By the way, spoilers for our viewers.
Spoilers.
Spoilers for spoilers foreverybody else.
SPEAKER_02 (02:04):
I know Nazis and an alternate world.
Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_04 (02:08):
It's pretty much a Peacemaker's character
development season.
Okay.
Where he reconciles uh, like,you know, I kill brutally people
that I shouldn't, like Rick Flywas his name.
SPEAKER_03 (02:18):
Yeah, like from the Suicide Squad movie, and like
season one, his brother.
Yeah, you know who also got alot of character development,
and like she had her own, likeliterally, she had her own plot
line, the blue bag that you seeit all the way through.
Amelia Harcourt.
The blonde chick?
The blonde chick.
The love interest, yes.
The love interest, but she'sshe's way more than a love
interest.
(02:38):
She gets her whole plot line andemotional growth.
She's really fucked up.
You know, there's a lot of justlike Peacemaker?
There's all these scenes, likeall these characters in in the
series are fucked up.
Everybody in the group is fuckedup in their own ways, but
Harcourt is fucked up in her ownways, and you see growth and the
way she plays it, like she hasthis scene with John Cena, or
with John Cena, with Peacemaker.
She has this scene where shegoes and gets him from Earth X,
(03:02):
which is Nazi Earth, and she'slike, Peacemaker is like, Well,
you know, what did it mean toyou?
You know, tell me what you whatyou what you feel, and she's
like, you know, she has nothingto give, but she's like, Are you
coming back or not?
Yeah.
Damn.
And it's like that nuance, like,you know, I can't I can't give
you what you want, but you know,I still want you to come back
with me.
SPEAKER_02 (03:21):
Um, that's a heavy hitting little line, like plot
line that she's got.
SPEAKER_03 (03:24):
Yeah, I wish I knew exactly what she said.
You gotta watch that scene.
I mean, anybody that's watchingknows the scene.
Go support it.
And uh James Gunn actuallybreaks it down in one of the
interviews.
It's like that's one of herfavor his favorite scenes
because that's his wife.
And that's James Gunn's wife.
That's right.
Yeah, the the blonde actress.
SPEAKER_04 (03:40):
His actual James Gunn's actual wife?
SPEAKER_03 (03:42):
IRL, right?
I can't believe we forgot hername.
Yes.
That's that's James Gunn's wife,his actual current wife.
My boy.
Yes.
So if you were dropping thenotes here, bro, don't worry
about it.
Right?
SPEAKER_00 (03:54):
No.
SPEAKER_03 (03:55):
But uh he breaks it down.
That's one of the things, likehe loved the way she played
that, and then they were able toget that emotional, like, uh
level depth, that emotionaldepth out of the scene.
And again, keep in mind we'retalking about you know a comic
book show.
So uh comic book shows havereally like come a long way, you
know.
The penguin won an Emmy.
(04:16):
Bro.
Or not the penguin, uh what'sher name?
She won the Emmy, ChristinaMiliati.
Oh, yeah, she sure did, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (04:22):
For best supporting female actress.
SPEAKER_03 (04:24):
Leading actress.
Leading actress, I apologize.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Best lead actress in a drama, orI don't know what the category
is, but she won the Emmy forthat for the penguin.
SPEAKER_02 (04:32):
I mean, it there's the penguin, what b uh The Joker
won an Yeah, yeah.
And so the Dark Knights.
I mean, comic book movies have arep specifically DC.
Like, they have had good weightbehind them as far as their
acting skills have gone.
SPEAKER_03 (04:45):
I think so, yeah.
Specifically DC, like presents abetter, like storyline.
They've won awards.
SPEAKER_02 (04:50):
Like, granted, you've been nominated, sure, for
like music and aspects and stufflike that in an Avengers movie,
you know, which is great.
Nobody's knocking that, but likefor the acting skills themselves
and for the story, you're like,damn, this was so good and so
believable.
I mean, I love RDJ, but And thiswas the follow-up after
Superman.
SPEAKER_03 (05:08):
Uh you did have to watch Superman to better
understand Peacemaker Season 2because of all the Superman
connections.
SPEAKER_04 (05:13):
Yeah, absolutely.
One of the things that, youknow, recircling back to the
Emmy thing, like I wouldn't besurprised if John Cena won one.
SPEAKER_02 (05:19):
Oh, you guys said that there was a really
emotional scene that hedelivered in, right?
SPEAKER_04 (05:22):
It was like that is John Cena's like the actor The
Rock thinks he is, likedramatic-wise.
Like, I know he thinks you knowwhat I'm saying, because it's
specifically tying it back toseason one.
SPEAKER_02 (05:31):
Not wrong.
SPEAKER_04 (05:32):
Uh, whenever in the season one they show that he has
his little brother and he killshim, and in this season, tying
it back to Superman, uh,Peacemaker like kind of uses his
multidimensional doorway that hehas that you know they or they
explain how he got it to go intoa dimension where his brother is
alive and his dad is is kind ofnot a Nazi, like a
(05:52):
comprehensive, understandablekind of man.
And him seeing that kind of fuckwith his head, you know, that it
was like perfect, but really notperfect, because it's a Nazi
world.
Yeah, he's like, Wow, it's thelife I've always wanted.
It's for the brothers here.
SPEAKER_03 (06:05):
It's funny when they call him out, he's like, This is
your perfect world.
He's like, You didn't notice allthe main camp on the death?
But because he was so focusedwith comfort.
SPEAKER_04 (06:14):
I understand that because like it wasn't that,
it's like it wasn't the world,the world was his brother and
his dad.
That's his world.
So it was like, yes, it was aperfect world because his
brothers are like the rule ofHitler on the wall.
He was so locked because theywould like work out in
adventures together, like akaiju would attack, and then
them three will like they don'tshow the fight, that's the
thing, you know.
But they they will three yes,budget for sure.
(06:34):
Budget for sure.
Yeah, uh they would like go thesame and they come back and
they're all eating burgers, allslimed out, like they know if
it's always perfect for him.
So that's cool.
But when they rescue Peacemakerfrom this world, you know, they
started beating the shit out ofhis brother, right?
Because this brother finds outit's not really his brother,
it's peacemaker from anotherdimension.
SPEAKER_03 (06:54):
And that he killed his actual brother.
Yeah, is that really whathappened?
SPEAKER_04 (06:57):
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (06:58):
And then how did he kill him?
Oh, well, the peacemaker fromEarth Egg before we get there,
yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (07:04):
So the whole point is like the being the shed, the
brother, right?
So he starts reconciling likehim killing his brother.
He's like, Stop, stop.
This is like a traumatic eventfor Peacemaker because he has
that growth where he realizedthat every time he feels like
he's cursed, every time he's inthe in a high situation, people
die.
You know, Rick is an examplethat dimension version of
(07:26):
Peacemaker, you know, he killedhim, and he'll he'll explain in
a minute how he did it.
So he's like starts toreconcile, like, man, you I'm
the problem here.
Like, there's always violencearound, which is a complete 360
for Peacemaker for me.
But I love it because it JamesGunn is a fantastic director
showing like character growth,you know.
And for Peacemaker in seasontwo, that that was like pretty
(07:47):
much the the highlight ofPeacemaker growth, not only as a
brother, but as you know, alover too, with Amelia Hardcore,
the character, as well, beingunderstandable.
This girl's complex, just likehe's complex, so he's gotta
understand he's a complexrelationship.
You know, it's not black andwhite, you know.
You gotta understand the kind ofgirl you're dating.
So it realizes that I'm fuckedup, you're fucked up, and this
(08:09):
relationship is fucked up, butthat's how it's supposed to kind
of work.
That's how it works.
Yes, but and then she's kind oflike telling her, like, like she
can't tell you I love youbecause that's not the
relationship we have, you know.
But we'll get in a gunfighttogether, and that's so you
know.
Like I'll I'll take a fuckingbullet.
Yeah, yeah, but you won't I youwon't see me here, I'll I I'll
lose a limb, and that's meshowing you I love you.
My actions, yeah.
(08:29):
Yes, yes.
That's the kind of girl Harkouris.
SPEAKER_03 (08:34):
You find out that uh Harkour had a thing with Rick
Flag, even though Rick Flag waswith Enchantress at the time.
Yes, uh, but you find out thatthey were fucking and they were
like childhood friends.
So she actually hated Peacemakerbecause he wasn't one that
killed Rick Flagg.
So that was there's a bunch oflevels that they added.
SPEAKER_04 (08:52):
But she understands that she was following the
orders of Wallace.
SPEAKER_03 (08:55):
Yeah, Waller.
Yeah, Waller.
She understands, yeah.
Like, because she's also doneall these fucked up things
following orders.
SPEAKER_04 (09:00):
Yeah, and Rick Rick saw the report, it was Waller
who commanded it.
So he just hated him, they couldpull the trigger, but she I
still think that he's she'sunder Argus' thumb.
Like, he's still like, oh fuck,Waller, you know.
SPEAKER_03 (09:13):
Yeah, we don't see much of Waller in Peacemaker
season two.
She's a movie-level actress.
Yeah, 100%.
The fact that she's even in it.
But I think she's gonna I thinkshe's gonna come back as a main
character.
What's her name?
Main actress?
I forgot her.
She's high level.
Speaking of uh movie level, likeI I think this is a setup for
the Man of Tomorrow sequel.
James Gunn like setting up thestoryline.
(09:34):
Some people were theorizing thatthe next big bad would be uh
Rick Flack Sr.
You know?
Like he's the one that's gonnabe moving between the scenes as
uh as the bad character.
Wow, as the character thatSuperman's gonna have to stop
next.
Nice.
That's not crazy.
He set up Planet Salvation,which is a priest in planet.
SPEAKER_02 (09:51):
Oh, yeah, tell me gotta give the ending because
the way you guys saw it waspretty cool.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
SPEAKER_04 (09:56):
How does it Peacemaker kill the other
Peacemaker in that thing is likehilarious?
So they like the dad watch it.
The dad are the dad go huntingone day and they find an alien
that just crash landing, right?
The dad is like, oh fuck, youjust shoot it because you know a
redneck in this in thisuniverse, right?
And when they shoot it, theytake up his little device, and
that device was like when youput it next to a door, it like
(10:17):
opens portals.
SPEAKER_03 (10:18):
Yeah, yeah, bring the portal to that dimension.
It's got 99 doors.
They do mention that at onepoint, and every door is a
different dimension.
SPEAKER_04 (10:26):
And in that dimension, when he got there,
when he got at the Peacemaker'sdimension, Peacemaker just
happened to get back from amission, and Peacemaker wasn't
even hearing it.
He was just, I don't give afuck.
Da that just shooting him.
Yeah, he was like, Who the fuckis he?
He's like, bro, hold on, wasn'tlistening.
He just wasn't having it andjust really went after him.
He said, Fuck it.
Pressed a button, and thisrocket ship made him go up,
stabbed him against a fuckingmetal thing.
(10:47):
Yeah.
That's hilarious.
Yeah.
He was like, oh fuck.
He's like panicking, like, whatthe fuck just happened?
SPEAKER_03 (10:53):
I just killed myself.
That's fucking crazy.
Don't think about it, Rick.
Don't think about it.
Don't think about it, Rick.
Yeah.
That's fucking crazy.
It's so funny that they chose todo the Earth X thing.
Because there's so many ways togo with like a Nazi Earth, you
know?
Oh, yeah.
100%.
So I think also, did the brothersurvive after all?
You see him reading towards theend.
SPEAKER_04 (11:14):
Well, yeah, he survived because the girlfriend
was gonna shoot him in the face.
Like, yo, I can't have youfollowing us.
So she was about to cap him, butpolice shows up.
SPEAKER_03 (11:21):
Police shows up.
Yeah, yeah.
So I think the brother survivingis maybe a setup for like he's
gonna eventually want revenge.
Yeah.
So he could get a couple ofheroes from Earth X and somehow
uh come to the you know to theRGR.
SPEAKER_02 (11:34):
I'm thinking Evil Justice League, bro.
You can always do it.
SPEAKER_03 (11:37):
Or like Superman in Earth X is Overlord.
Oh, yeah, right.
Yeah, or it's like Ultra Man.
SPEAKER_04 (11:43):
That will be a cool setup.
Batman versus Owl Man?
Yeah, shit like that.
SPEAKER_03 (11:47):
Yeah, well, that's another one that's another
Earth, I think in Earth X.
Man, I forget the name.
We're thinking about theanimated one.
SPEAKER_04 (11:52):
Well, anyway, so Rick acquires the device, right?
And then one day he just narcokidnaps fucking Peacemaker, and
he says, like, thanks forvolunteering.
He's like, I didn't volunteer.
Now what this paper says.
SPEAKER_02 (12:02):
You say Rick Flag seen is a senior.
Okay, senior.
Sorry, I was trying tounderstand.
SPEAKER_04 (12:06):
And he throws him against the world, and then like
he's in like in the jungle-esquearea, which is the god area, the
god playground they call it.
It's like old gods, like the oldgods, the one that uh what's his
name with the Omega sign?
What's his face?
You with the yeah, upside down.
Oh, dark side.
Well, dark side typically willgo train per se.
This is a kind of crazy asspersonal.
SPEAKER_03 (12:26):
I don't know if that's the where they're gonna
take it, but that's it.
That's the or the origin ofsalvation in the comic books.
Yeah.
Like they send they send LexLuther, they send the Joker,
they send all the billionsthere.
But that's yeah, that's whatit's crazy.
And it turns out to be is a darkside training ground for the
parademons.
You know the parademons in thatmovie Superman too?
SPEAKER_01 (12:44):
Whoa.
SPEAKER_03 (12:45):
From that storyline, it's a it's a training ground
for parademons.
So they you know, the billionsend up like going, you know,
yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (12:53):
And they so that's their Super Saiyan arc?
They just spent like thehyperbolic time chamber, they
spent two years there.
SPEAKER_04 (12:58):
Well, I don't know what the comics are, but I know
they send them there just tolike because they're in trouble,
you know, like you're in jail.
Yeah, but I can't raise a plan.
SPEAKER_03 (13:05):
Yeah, they just don't know what that planet
ended up being.
SPEAKER_04 (13:07):
You just gotta trust the gun, bro.
SPEAKER_03 (13:09):
Yeah, trust the gun.
And I think the thing aboutJames Gunn is that he also takes
a lot of concepts from the comicbooks and he makes them like his
own, you know.
He he doesn't really he doesn'talways stick to the to the
source material.
Yeah, no, I like that.
So I do like that he puts likehis very own spin into a lot of
it.
In a good way.
Like we're not talking about,you know, some of the stuff
(13:30):
Marvel has done.
Like James Gunn actually puts acool spin into some of that
stuff.
Oh, like Superman's parents.
Like Superman's krypton parentstelling him to take over Earth.
It's a very like different takefrom you know the comic book
take.
SPEAKER_02 (13:43):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (13:44):
That's very, very true.
You guys know what I'm talkingabout?
Yeah, yeah.
On the movie?
SPEAKER_04 (13:47):
Have a harem.
SPEAKER_03 (13:48):
Yeah, have a heron, have a harem.
But uh, but yeah, I think uhit's all set up for the next
movie for what's next in the DCuh you, so we'll see.
SPEAKER_02 (13:57):
I'm excited because again, they I think he says why
not?
Instead of it can't, I think hesays why not.
More over James Gunn kind ofthing, you know?
SPEAKER_03 (14:04):
Yeah, oh seeing Lex Luther in Peacemaker was weird
was great.
Yeah, he was there.
SPEAKER_04 (14:08):
He was the one advocating for the pr which
actually Superman's concept oflike uh Lex one in a prison.
Saying all the meta humans.
Settlement haters there becausehe's just mean, just a Division
I hater.
SPEAKER_03 (14:18):
Division I hater.
Division one hater.
SPEAKER_04 (14:26):
I imagine a lot of similarities with other kind of
comic book sources.
SPEAKER_03 (14:32):
Like This is your segue.
Yeah, so the segue, I believe,is for Softpass.
SPEAKER_01 (14:38):
Soft pass.
SPEAKER_02 (14:39):
Gen V, man.
Gen V for me has been a goodseries so far for Amazon Prime.
Season two has recently droppedon it.
There are six episodes in rightnow.
I don't, I'm assuming eight orten out of the entire season.
SPEAKER_03 (14:51):
Yeah, I think there's three more episodes
left.
Yeah.
So we're we're about halfway,more than halfway through a
season.
Yeah, and it's I love that theydropped three episodes the first
time.
Yeah.
A lot of ass stuff in the firstthree episodes.
But other than that, other thanthat, it's great.
There's that one student thathas a singularity in his
butthole.
Yeah, for like literally, whydid we hear why is he a hero,
bro?
He basically has a dark hole inhis butthole.
SPEAKER_02 (15:12):
Yeah, like his he's an infinite gaping ass.
But anyway.
Um, the story itself.
Yeah, yeah.
But that's the first threeepisodes.
Overlooking that, the storyitself, as far as like
progressive.
SPEAKER_04 (15:23):
There's a guy like that in X-Men, I think.
With the universe in hisasshole.
SPEAKER_02 (15:29):
Anyway, no, the uh the show itself is actually a
progressive story for the boys,in my opinion, a lot.
SPEAKER_03 (15:34):
I like how connected it is to the boys.
SPEAKER_02 (15:36):
Now the fact that they're dropping, bro, spoiler
obviously for this entireseason, but they got homeboy,
uh, give me the tour.
No, no, no, what the hell washis name?
John Carlos Esposito came back?
SPEAKER_03 (15:45):
Yeah.
I did not see that coming.
That was out of left- I waslike, yo, are you fucked up?
This guy's still like, oh,that's great.
I forgot he was still alive.
I thought they had killed himoff at some point.
SPEAKER_02 (15:58):
When they brought back the daughter, her daughter
is a teenager now, and I waslike, Oh, the daughter's power
of having like Medusa mouth,yeah.
He looks like his mother, I'mtelling you.
SPEAKER_03 (16:08):
But anyway, it's great.
Somebody's face off.
There you go.
SPEAKER_02 (16:13):
Anyway, great freaking series so far.
The fact that uh the maincharacter Marie is like God tier
level power now.
SPEAKER_03 (16:19):
Oh, the way they yeah, they introduced him to
Thomas Godolkin, like he createdthe soups.
I can't remember he was he wasalso a Nazi because I think
everybody that that started Botwere Nazis.
Yeah, like in the 1930s orwhatever, at least whenever they
were there.
Yeah, man, it was insane.
Connections are interestingbecause they're saying that
Marie could be just as powerfulas Homelander.
SPEAKER_02 (16:38):
Yeah, so uh there was a Project Odessa that took
place, like dozens of childrenwere killed in the process.
They were all basically beingshot up with V at the embryo
stage, and the only children toactually ever be able to
successfully carry through theprocess.
One is Homelander, and thesecond is this girl, Marie.
And that's why it's like shit,and Homelander's Superman in
this universe, right?
(16:58):
So it's like if there is apower, what could rival if not
supersede that?
Because that's what they keeptelling.
It's like you could be the mostpowerful soup ever.
What's her power?
So she can She's a bloodbender.
SPEAKER_03 (17:10):
She's a bloodbender.
But uh it evolved to so muchmore than that.
SPEAKER_02 (17:14):
Yeah, now she's able, like, he's basically and
it's interesting because the waythe guy trains her, and he
trains everybody, he tells himhe's like, and the way he speaks
about powers is like he knows somuch about them.
You know what I'm saying?
And it's because well, ourtheory is this the the body that
we end up seeing inside thisiron line.
Yeah, originally the audience isled to believe that it's uh
(17:36):
Cypher's grandfather.
Come to find out that it's noteven the grandfather, it's the
original creator of God You, theuniversity, that all the soups
go to.
And apparently his body wasburnt up.
He got burnt up and caught in anexplosion or something like that
in the 1980s, and he's beenconsidered dead ever since then.
There's a moment where Mariescans Cypher's body and she
doesn't see any V in his system.
The V obviously would indicatehis powers.
(17:56):
She's like, he doesn't have anypowers.
That's the big gimmick abouthim.
That's what we're again, theaudience is led to believe.
There's a moment where what'sthe partner's name?
I can't Cypher or Marie'spartner.
Oh Jordan.
Jordan.
Jordan uh ends up being takenover by Cypher, like 100%.
There's a moment where Marie canalmost explode him because she
can like she ends up attachingto every single cell in his
(18:16):
body.
SPEAKER_03 (18:17):
And it was unbelievable.
Sometimes it's interesting thatwhere they break down how powers
can evolve in a certain way inadvance, yes, exactly.
Like she's not she's notthinking about what she could do
with her power.
It's like, yeah, she couldcontrol blood.
But controlling blood could leadto so much more than that.
SPEAKER_02 (18:34):
Yeah, what more?
I mean, if you okay, but that'sa cellular level kind of thing,
you know what I'm saying?
So what else can you fix?
What else can you manipulate?
It's just blood to you rightnow, but everything has blood
inside of it.
Is it anything with the liquid?
Is it anything with theheartbeat?
What do you feel?
And that's when she startsconnecting, like literally, bro,
like blood bending, like I canfeel it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like dead ass.
There's even the moment whereshe's like, he's like, put the
fucking hand down.
(18:54):
It doesn't do anything, stupid.
SPEAKER_03 (18:56):
Yeah, and she's like, he's like feeling because
that's uh that's such a thingfrom all like superhero shows.
Every superhero show, yeah.
Like the struggling with thehandle if it's a mind ability,
you shouldn't.
I mean, the hand doesn'tshouldn't do any fucking thing.
SPEAKER_02 (19:08):
Yeah, and they even talk about self-harm, believe it
or not, in this one.
When homegirl's uh bulimic andshe thinks it's only she only
does it because of her powers.
SPEAKER_03 (19:14):
I mean, that's been her thing the whole time.
SPEAKER_02 (19:16):
Yeah, well, you're under the impression that it's
only because of her power, thenshe finds out.
She's like, I actually do have aproblem.
She's like, I there's a momentnow where I don't want to stop
and all I want to do is throw upand I can't.
And she's like, Oh shit, thereis something wrong with me.
And then the way, same way Marieuses her powers, she doesn't
have to cut her hand open with awith a pocket knife every time,
but she chooses to.
And that's what he tells her.
He's just like self-mutilationis one way to express anger and
(19:36):
frustration or whatever.
He's like, But you don't have touse that in order to access your
powers.
It's interesting, bro.
Like the way, like he said, likethey pushes it.
Yeah, it's it's a really, reallycool aspect.
SPEAKER_04 (19:44):
But anyway, I guess you're like an Akita style
level.
She just walks into the room,like in the hallway, and just
Yes, yes, 100%.
SPEAKER_02 (19:52):
Yeah.
So that's basically what they'retrying to push her as.
But when Cypher takes overJordan's body, he's just like,
he's just another meat puppet.
And so that's where it connectsback to that's where okay.
SPEAKER_03 (20:02):
The theory, my theory is yes, go for it.
Like Cypher, it's not likethat's not Cypher.
Like, well, we we at this pointthink like the man in the
hyperotic chamber is ThomasGodolkin.
So Thomas Godolkin is actuallytaking over this body and calls
himself Cypher.
SPEAKER_02 (20:18):
Correct.
SPEAKER_03 (20:18):
And that's why there's no B, there's no B
compound in this body.
Because he's already taken overhim.
SPEAKER_02 (20:24):
Yeah, he's just a regular human, he's just a
regular human.
SPEAKER_03 (20:26):
So he can hop from host to host.
Yeah.
And he talks about how Jordanfeels like a glove.
Maybe he's grooming him to behis next host.
His next puppet.
SPEAKER_02 (20:34):
And because his like his physical that because the
male version of him isinvulnerable.
He's he's Superman damn near.
He has super strength andinvulnerability.
But yet when he goes to thefemale side, he has like the
telekinetic powers or whatever.
SPEAKER_00 (20:45):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (20:45):
And really cool abilities, don't get me wrong.
But yeah, if he got that shit,he'd be next level.
But now the question is becausethere's a moment where Marie's
uh she has a sister, right?
That she's been trying to get ahold of the entire season.
She ends up uh being found andCypher slips her throat.
She dies, bro.
She runs into the room to try tosave her.
She's already spilt out.
Like, we don't even know howlong she's been dead for at this
point.
(21:06):
But because in that moment ofpressure, she rises to the
occasion and she ends up sealingthe wound on her sister's neck
and somehow absorbs the lifeforce of everyone around her
because they all start freakingout.
Like I'm assuming, bro.
SPEAKER_03 (21:20):
That's interesting.
SPEAKER_02 (21:20):
They almost had my like their brain, they almost
had like aneurysms, dog.
SPEAKER_03 (21:24):
They all start bleeding.
SPEAKER_02 (21:24):
Everybody starts bleeding.
It was and sync.
Everybody's like, they're like,what the fuck?
Like, Marie, stop.
Stop.
SPEAKER_03 (21:31):
Yeah, they're in pain, bro.
They're in agony.
And then boom, she comes back.
Yeah, because you did see like ayou did see like a light over
her face, over the dead sister'sface.
You see like a light going likeYeah, bro.
So like life force regeneratoror something.
So now she's like, I didn'tthink about that.
I was like, why is she likehurting everybody else to bring
her back?
SPEAKER_02 (21:48):
Remember, she could feel it.
And that's when he's like, she'slike, it was so easy.
SPEAKER_03 (21:51):
And I was like, oh, that's scary, bro.
But yeah, no, so she's gone,she's gotten full Qatara in the
last third.
Yeah, bro.
So she's locked in 100%.
Now it's like if you get thatreference, if you know, you
know.
SPEAKER_02 (22:03):
But now the thing is, okay, but Cypher's character
has been basically saying, like,oh, his love interest, the smart
chick from uh the boys.
SPEAKER_03 (22:09):
It was also surprising seeing her back.
SPEAKER_02 (22:10):
She makes it in the you know, like the genius from
the boys or whatever.
SPEAKER_03 (22:13):
The one that would like give herself lobotomies to
fuck uh to fuck the fish boy, uhthe deep, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (22:18):
Her.
So she makes an appearance,she's fucking Cypher, right?
But there's a moment where she'sfucking him, but she looks at
the body, the burnt body of thewhat we think is uh the God you
guy, or Mr.
Godokin, uh whatever, and ThomasGodokin.
And it's weird, bro.
We're like, what the fuck?
And that's where it kind ofconnects.
SPEAKER_03 (22:34):
The voice is just a weird shout.
SPEAKER_02 (22:35):
It's a weird ass show, but she's like, she's
basically showing that I'm intoyou.
Like, this is just the body,obviously, for us to make this
work, but blah, blah, blah.
And she tells him, she's like,You're running out of time.
And he's like, Don't worry aboutit, I got this.
And he injures himselfthroughout the process, and
there's no healing factor in it.
Like, it just goes to confirmthat he doesn't really have a
super, that this is just a host,more or less for him.
And but yeah, this this mostrecent episode ends up.
SPEAKER_03 (22:55):
So we gotta we gotta find out, we gotta find out
because yeah, what's gonnahappen next on it?
SPEAKER_02 (22:59):
But it's gonna be.
And I think it's to continue hertraining.
It's just to keep it pushing tosee what else she can do now,
bro.
Yeah.
Because ultimately, I think thathe wants to heal his body or to
be able to do something with itthat obviously that nobody else
can do.
SPEAKER_03 (23:19):
When you said that, I think that's a good one.
Because if she can bring thedead back, then why not?
She could probably healsomebody.
SPEAKER_02 (23:26):
Yeah, yeah.
Cellular regeneration, it'd be,you know, it's something she'd
be able to do at that point.
Yeah.
If her powers allowed her to,you know?
Especially because if she'sgonna be the only one.
SPEAKER_03 (23:35):
If you want to tie it into the boys at this point,
if she could.
Like Gen B, the first seasonended with Homelander showing
up.
SPEAKER_02 (23:41):
Yeah, and Butcher, remember, he goes to the to the
he ends up in the woods at thevery end for a second.
You can see him.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (23:46):
He's like, uh So uh Gen season one, I I thought it
was just a little Easter egg.
Yeah.
But then in the boys, uhStarlight makes an appearance.
Starlight makes an appearance inthe in the in the beginning of
season two, but then in theboys, the virus had a lot of the
virus that was trying to be usedto kill all those soups was
created in Gen V.
And then she tried to they theykeep on working that plot line
(24:08):
in the boys.
SPEAKER_02 (24:09):
Yeah, because the governor, remember, she ends up
like taking the the chemical orwhatever, whatever, and that's
how it all ends up tying.
SPEAKER_03 (24:15):
So now I think Jim now I think Jen B is just
another season of the boys, justwith a different set of
characters.
SPEAKER_02 (24:20):
Yeah, it it ties in that well to it, bro.
The fact that uh John CarlosEsposito came in, yeah, and uh
Victoria's daughter.
Yeah, she came in, and againthey they mentioned that.
Oh, my mom met you, or yourpowers are really similar.
So again, even then they havethat bond kinship already.
SPEAKER_03 (24:32):
I'm like, oh bro, she's already uh a leg in.
Now now he's really tied intoit, bro.
Like now it feels like oneuniverse.
SPEAKER_02 (24:39):
But my thing is it she would probably be the only
one.
She's the replacement of the hiphopper, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
She's she's the next level ofthat.
If there was a version to stopHomelander, this would
definitely be.
SPEAKER_03 (24:47):
And I bet you she's eventually gonna do something
like that.
SPEAKER_02 (24:50):
Oh, she has to do something crazy, bro.
SPEAKER_03 (24:51):
Like pop some heads.
SPEAKER_02 (24:53):
So I'm excited for that, though.
But Gen V.
So we're excited the seasonfinale is getting ready to come
out in the next couple weeks.
A few weeks.
One more thing we gotta talkabout that uh just came back.
SPEAKER_03 (25:00):
Oh, speaking of powers or quirks.
That's a good one.
Damn it, that was a smoothblinker and everything.
Anyway, my hero academia.
What do you see on that timerright there, bro?
SPEAKER_02 (25:09):
A lot, 25.
25, 25, 26.
SPEAKER_03 (25:11):
Okay, we we we we got five minutes.
Yeah, five minutes.
Yeah, it's only two episodes.
Anyway.
SPEAKER_02 (25:15):
Now for a lesson, bro.
SPEAKER_03 (25:17):
I am here.
Because I am here.
Here's my thing.
Last season.
SPEAKER_02 (25:21):
It ends with that basically.
SPEAKER_03 (25:24):
But last season there were so many episodes,
like there was so much going onlast season because this is the
final war.
Yeah, there's uh there's abattle over here, there's a
battle over here, you got Gungaside, you got the hospital side,
you got the island side, and ofcourse the the coffin in the
sky.
Correct.
There's so many battles thatwatching it week to week, I was
kind of like, okay, I'm gonnajust let it build up because
this shit is so good.
(25:45):
So I let it build up, and then Ijust didn't catch up with it.
Same.
Like I never I I was gonna waitfor the English episodes to
drop.
Yep.
So I was like, okay, I'lleventually watch it.
And then the new season cameout, and I just binge.
Like, I had like maybe six oreight episodes.
Yeah, same.
The last thing that I watchedwas when Shoto beat Dabby the
(26:06):
first time, and then he cameback.
SPEAKER_02 (26:08):
Yeah, Deku showing up was the last thing I
remember.
Deku shows up.
SPEAKER_03 (26:11):
Deku shows up.
Yeah, Deku shows up.
That was the last thing I'veever seen.
That's that's I think that's Iwas I was right there.
Yep.
And then Bakugo quote unquotedied, but not really.
Right.
Best genius.
Yeah, but then so much happensafter that.
SPEAKER_01 (26:23):
Dog, that's number how did I put this down?
So much.
So much beat, dog.
So much big.
SPEAKER_03 (26:34):
They got the the Joji episode with the
heteromorphs, so that takes likethree episodes.
Like all the people that don'tlook like humans because powers
messes them up.
That's a good storyline.
It was a good storyline, butthen the one that was actually
so peak was fucking Ochako and Ican't say that.
Toga.
I mean, the shit, bro.
I was like, I still want to knowyou.
(26:55):
Bro.
SPEAKER_04 (26:56):
But they like love, like I feel like that she like
had a crush on her or something.
SPEAKER_03 (27:00):
She well, she like she loved her.
She develops like likes for likeshe falls in love easily with
what she likes.
Okay.
So she gets hyperfixated, Iguess.
SPEAKER_04 (27:10):
Oh, so she was hyper-fixated now, taco cham.
SPEAKER_03 (27:13):
Yeah, yeah, I guess you could call it that if you
could like give it like a realworld comparison.
SPEAKER_04 (27:16):
That makes sense because she was like an
assassin, is assassin-ishvillain, right?
Like her power was like she cancopy mimic your face.
SPEAKER_03 (27:23):
If she drinks your blood.
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (27:25):
But she was like an assassin.
SPEAKER_03 (27:26):
And then her power evolves to like she could even
like copy quirk.
SPEAKER_02 (27:30):
That's right, that's right.
SPEAKER_03 (27:31):
So she she copies uh twice as quirk.
SPEAKER_02 (27:33):
Well, it only works, remember, because she can't use
Shigaraki's power.
She can't use Shigaraki's insomebody else's, but it's
because she doesn't have a truelevel of love for them.
SPEAKER_03 (27:39):
That's what she loved in the episode.
Yeah, that she by the way of herbringing that back, whenever she
goes like what is it?
Sadman death parade.
Because he's only dead, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (27:50):
That was so fucking dope, dog.
SPEAKER_03 (27:54):
She goes like that legion.
SPEAKER_02 (27:56):
I'm like, and that was my thing.
That power by itself is so OP,bro, it's broken.
Yeah, you would win anywhere.
There's no way.
I don't care how many bulletsyou got.
Clipping yourself over and overand over.
It's game over.
And that was it.
They knew if they couldn't takeout twice his ability, they'd be
fucked.
Yeah.
And you know what?
That's exactly what Hots had totake him out back then.
(28:16):
He was still a fucking now, bro.
SPEAKER_03 (28:18):
It was so important for Hawks to take him out.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (28:20):
You know, and it was such a bastard when he did it
too, bro.
You felt so bad for him.
You're like, bro, why?
It was a game.
Strategically, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (28:28):
Yeah, he was the Omega level for sure.
And you see it in the episode,it's like Omega level, you're
right.
SPEAKER_04 (28:33):
Yeah, Omega level for sure.
SPEAKER_03 (28:34):
She's turning the title of the war or the battle.
Yes, with that one quirk, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (28:38):
With that one quirk, yeah.
That's it.
And it wasn't even the original.
That's what I'm saying.
If it was the real guy, if itwas him, yeah, probably even
worse.
SPEAKER_03 (28:45):
But anyway, and then the Chaka's power evolving, bro.
That's when I was like, oh fuck,let's go.
SPEAKER_01 (28:50):
She's just like everybody float.
SPEAKER_03 (28:52):
Everybody's like, you didn't touch me, and she's
just everybody starts floating.
It's like everybody that wastouching each other starts
floating, so the whole Legionstarts floating and just
everyone is up in the air.
And you're like, you see, likethe pink.
Yeah, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (29:05):
It's so fuego, dog.
It was so fuego.
SPEAKER_03 (29:08):
I can't believe I had to watch today.
SPEAKER_02 (29:10):
Same thing I thought.
I was like, well, at least theEnglish stuff are out.
But uh, but no, man, season two,or the final season, right, is
out right now.
SPEAKER_03 (29:17):
The first episode Oh, by the way, like the the
second to last episode of thelast season is when All Might
like rage baits him.
Yeah, Iron Man.
SPEAKER_01 (29:26):
With the armor suit, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (29:27):
Iron suit, the current uh armor all might, but
then I think on the internet itgoes your name is Iron Might.
I like that.
But no, no, no, no, I think theofficial is Armor All Might, but
I Iron Might is a community.
It's like I am a I gotta show myface.
Oh shit.
(29:47):
Like, you're not gonna be ableto ignore me.
No, no, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (29:50):
And then he just everybody's ability that he uses
too, he's just like, Let me yourstrength class today, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (30:00):
I was like, how am I still getting pumped when you
know he's gonna die, bro?
SPEAKER_02 (30:03):
You know he's not gonna make it, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (30:05):
He's not gonna die.
SPEAKER_02 (30:06):
Bro, okay, okay, okay, okay.
So, real quick, the fact that heuses everybody's fucking
ability.
He uses what is it?
Deku's fucking his shoot style.
His shoot style.
He uses uh Pinky's fucking acid.
The acid, right?
SPEAKER_03 (30:18):
He uses everybody.
Tailman, tentacle, he uses lasernavel.
Dude, everything, man.
He uses the engine to uh toaccelerate.
Yes, dog.
Even the waves from the mottofor the ice.
SPEAKER_01 (30:30):
Everything, dog.
SPEAKER_04 (30:31):
Oh, so it's a little homeboy.
We never talked about a littlehomeboy, was a traitor.
The little Oh, the belly dude,yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (30:39):
But look at me, shine, brother.
He showed up in that last one,though, dog.
I mean, the fact and then theinvisible chick has her moment.
SPEAKER_03 (30:47):
Naval legs.
Command, bro.
Like double, triple angle.
SPEAKER_02 (30:54):
Absolutely, bro.
For some reason, double cheekedup on a Tuesday night for no
reason.
SPEAKER_04 (30:57):
You can't even see it.
Not even.
SPEAKER_01 (30:59):
I'm pretty sure.
SPEAKER_02 (30:59):
Yeah, and even though she's like, Yummit! Yeah,
but it's great.
But again, you're like, wow, andthat's what she's doing.
SPEAKER_03 (31:04):
I love it that even some of the side characters get
their moment to shake it.
SPEAKER_02 (31:06):
They genuinely do.
SPEAKER_03 (31:11):
Or a movie, one or the other died.
No, it's gonna be it's supposedto be a final season, and it's
gonna be broken up into twoparts.
So it's probably gonna run 24episodes.
Or I'm not sure, don't give me astart lying to you.
But last season was broken upinto two parts, and it was 20
something episodes.
SPEAKER_02 (31:25):
I I'm excited for it.
It's been ecstatic.
The fact that Stain shows up atthe end of that first episode,
and I was like, yo, I I neversaw it coming.
Never saw it coming, but thefact that All Might's put up
such a good fight.
SPEAKER_03 (31:38):
I mean, and then on that second episode, I haven't
finished that second episode.
SPEAKER_02 (31:42):
I haven't even started it yet, but I know it's
like that he covered it up.
SPEAKER_03 (31:46):
I already saw a scene on there that I'm like, oh
brother, peak.
Peak?
I don't know how people can saymy hero is not peak, bro.
I don't know how many.
You gotta wait to see theending.
SPEAKER_02 (31:58):
Don't put the fries in the bag, bro.
SPEAKER_03 (32:00):
Sometimes I start watching it and I'm like, eh,
you know, maybe it's not asgood.
But then I start watching itagain.
It's like, bro, storytellingpeak, bro.
Dead Dead Stain says Do it allmy let's go, bro.
I was so ready.
Actually, uh Shoto at the end ofthe last season going and
(32:21):
stopping Davy because David wasabout to explode or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the whole family's there.
SPEAKER_02 (32:26):
The whole crew shows up.
Don't worry about it.
We got you, fam.
SPEAKER_03 (32:29):
And then fucking Ida and Shoto turning into a fighter
jet.
Like, yeah, bro.
Literally, fighter jet.
They just went supersonic orlike faster than the speed of
sound and light.
Yeah, dude.
Like, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (32:42):
I love it.
Fire.
It's been an amazing series tobe a good thing.
SPEAKER_03 (32:45):
And speaking of quirk evolutions, that's what's
crazy.
Like, I think he she one of thereporters breaks it down when
they're watching the Ochakafight.
It's like, this is the uh thequirk doomsday theory.
The quirks are gonna go uheventually gonna evolve.
Destroy the world evolved sostrong that they're not gonna be
unstoppable.
You think he's talking about themultiply quirk?
But in reality, we're talkingabout a Chaco quirk that has
(33:05):
evolved so far that she couldfloat like everything.
SPEAKER_02 (33:09):
Yeah.
Damn, I didn't think about thatone.
SPEAKER_03 (33:11):
So that's the quirk evolution, like all the quirks
have evolved so far.
SPEAKER_02 (33:14):
Yeah, that theory is that eventually, okay, where's
it gonna stop for her power?
You know, if this is where she'sat as a teenager.
Yeah, you know?
SPEAKER_03 (33:21):
Fuck, don't let her get 30 years, bro.
You think her quirk is like notthat useful?
But hey, she's also like megalevel.
SPEAKER_02 (33:27):
Right, bro.
If she was in construction, youwould never need a permit for
that.
SPEAKER_03 (33:32):
That was her original goal.
Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_02 (33:34):
Again, full circle.
So I'd like to stay tuned forthe whole season.
That's right.
You know what?
Sugi, what'd you think?
It's your homeland.
I do want to know what youthink.
SPEAKER_01 (33:42):
Oh no.
It looks like our time is up.
SPEAKER_03 (33:44):
By the way, I bought uh Fira XWare's uh my hero
academia suit.
It's badass.
Shout out to Fira XWare.
SPEAKER_02 (33:50):
Shout out, shout out to them, ladies and gentlemen.
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This is one of your hosts.
It's your boy Merck.
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