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March 18, 2026 54 mins

What happens when a lifelong church member realizes he has never truly tested his own testimony? Jason Barney grew up in a family with roots reaching back to Nauvoo and Joseph Smith himself. He knew the stories. He had the heritage. But when his high school friends asked him point blank if he really believed in Joseph Smith, he walked away unsure. Years later, kneeling in a remote Japanese town on his mission, Jason asked God directly and received a vivid, unmistakable witness of the First Vision. In this episode of Why We Believe, host Nathan Gwilliam sits down with the composer and land developer to hear how recreating Third Nephi scenes in the Honduran jungle made the Savior feel unmistakably real, how a family prayer hours after his father's death replaced fear with clarity, and why being a grandfather is the greatest success of his life.

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