Florida's Broken Justice: The Garrett Arrowood Story

In this explosive episode of Wickedly Judged, we unravel the shocking corruption, prosecutorial misconduct, and buried evidence that defined Florida v. Garrett Arrowood. From concealed key evidence to unethical legal maneuvers, this case is a textbook example of how the justice system can fail the very people it's meant to protect.

We are joined by Lisa Arrowood, whose exclusive interview sheds light on the disturbing details of her husband's wrongful conviction. Lisa takes us through the critical moments that shaped the case, exposing the misconduct that led to Garrett’s imprisonment and revealing the powerful forces that worked to keep the truth hidden.

Key Topics Covered:

• The hidden evidence that could have exonerated Garrett Arrowood
• How prosecutorial misconduct played a pivotal role in his conviction
• Corruption within the system: who benefited from Garrett’s wrongful imprisonment?
• Lisa Arrowood’s firsthand account of the legal battle and her fight for justice
• The next steps in Garrett’s case and what can be done to prevent this from happening to others

Why You Should Listen: If you believe in the fight for justice and exposing corruption, this episode is a must-listen. Lisa Arrowood’s compelling testimony brings to light the devastating impact of wrongful convictions and why accountability in the justice system is more crucial than ever.

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Episode Transcript

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Welcome back to Wickedly Judged.

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I'm Rebecca, your host, and this podcast is dedicated to exposing wrongful convictions,
flaws in our justice system, investigating their causes, and fighting for justice.
If you haven't already, I encourage you to go back and listen to our first three episodes,

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covering the state of Ohio versus Johnny Watkins, a case that exemplifies why our work is so
important. In this episode, we will be tackling the state of Florida versus Garrett Arrowood.
We have an exclusive interview with Lisa Arrowood, who is the mother of Garrett and the
sister of the victim. I think the way I just want to handle this today is I want you to tell

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your story. The listeners need to hear your story because you are not only affected by the fact
that your son is sitting behind bars for a crime he did not commit, you are also the victim's sister.
Okay, so on Wednesday, June 24th of 2015, my sister was supposed to have a meeting with a friend,

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and she failed to show. So after attempts to call her to see, you know, what was going on,
they called my parents to see if they had heard from my sister. And my parents, too,
tried to call her and couldn't get her. And she lived a short distance down the road from
parents. And so my dad jumped in his truck and ran down to check on her. And when he got there,

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her garage door was down, which was unusual at that time of day. You know, went to the door and
didn't get her. She had a small window that looked into her garage. And so he looked in there,
and he could see her car sitting in the garage, and he could see her slumped over in the car. So
of course, he freaked out and was trying to see, like even to grab the crowbar that was close around,

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trying to pry the garage door open. And eventually, he said he calmed down enough to think, oh,
let me see if there's a garage door opener in this truck of my niece that was left there in the yard.
And he did and was able to open it. And when he opened it, he could see that my sister was deceased.
And so he said that immediately 911 call my mom, they got down there. My sister was deceased in

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her car. The glass was shattered. So that gave an indication to my dad immediately that something
was he didn't know what had happened right that first. But the glass on her driver's side door
was shattered. So he felt like something just from that, you know, wasn't right. And so of course,
they cleared the scene and got him out of there and all that. They didn't tell us for quite a while

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that she had actually been shot. But eventually, we did find out that she had been shot three times
in the face at close range with the 22. Her house had been, there were some items that were stolen
from her house. There were guns missing and airheads missing that and the way they knew she had a
coffee table that was glass that she would keep them in as well as other places. But it was real

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obvious that the drawers were open and that they were missing. They were gone. So they knew that
airheads had been taken them to the guns. There were some guns out of her safe. You can imagine,
our worlds were completely turned upside down. That doesn't even begin to describe it. So of
course, we all gather at her house and they have it all taped off and FDLE, which is Florida

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Department of Law Enforcement, they came in to investigate it because they wanted an outside
entity to investigate this. They were not professional looking back, especially now I
realize the lead officer in charge was telling our family they didn't know yet what happened to
my sister. So we're all standing out there, you know, waiting for them to tell us what happened.

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And one of her friends walks up and tells us that she was shot three times in the head and we're
like, who told you that? And they're like, Oh, well, Susie over there, she overheard officer,
which was an FDLE officer saying that she was shot three times in the head. So I go to the lead
officer and I tell him exactly who did you hear that from? Point them all out, tell him who said

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what. And he's like, Oh, no, no, we still don't know. We're still doing our investigation. Well,
come to find out that was exactly true. The officer did walk out there, did say it, leaked it all out,
and it played on the news just to hold fiasco right from the beginning. Looking back at the time,
we were also devastated that really weren't paying attention to those little details.

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Shortly there in a local officer, Robbie Hooker was his name. He was given the lead. He had never
done a murder investigation, but he was the local lead investigator. He's asking about my sister's
son. His name is Michael and my son Garrett because both weren't on to have drug issues. You
know, we gave them all of information for Michael and for Garrett. Gosh, well, that was on a Wednesday.

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Of course, our world is just turned upside down. We're all grieving, gathering down at my parents,
trying to figure out who in the world could have possibly done this to Shelley, my sister, low and
behold, three days later, really two days later, my son was arrested. We were not even informed.
My parents got a phone call at their house and this is on a Saturday. They said we have arrested

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someone for Shelley's murder. And if you want to come up to the courthouse, we can give you more
information. Of course, my dad tells us we all load up and go. And as soon as we pull into
courthouse, everything's empty. It's Saturday, except for there is some police cars and my son's
white trailblazers sitting in there. And we're like, what is going on? And when we start walking to

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the courthouse steps, Mandan Whedon and his father, Rodney Whid, are there on the courthouse steps.
Mandan is down at the bottom. Rodney is up at the top. Garrett is nowhere to be seen. So we come
walking up. The lead FDLE officer comes out to meet us. Well, we have your son detained in
connection with your sister's murder. And I mean, you could have just not done stem. We're like,

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what? You know, what is going on? And we just need you to, you know, step back in your cars. We'll
come out to talk to you. And during this time, Mandan is calling to me. He's calling me miss
Lisa. I don't really know Mandan real well other than just to tell you we live in a small community.
I did own a gymnastics school. And when Mandan was a young child, he took a few classes there,

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not much point me and everybody in town did know me. And they knew me as miss Lisa because I ran
the gymnastics school. So he's calling for me miss Lisa, miss Lisa, please come here. And I'm
like, I have nothing to say to you, Mandan, you know, like, because I'm sitting here thinking,
here you guys, all three of y'all are connected with my sister's murder. I have nothing to say to

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you. Mr. Danny, come here, you know, Garrett had nothing to do with this. I swear nothing. And my
husband said, well, then who did Mandan? And he said he just turned his head. And at that time,
I'm looking at the top of the stairs and Rodney is up there. No. And I'm like, did you guys
are y'all involved in this, you know, so we go back to the car and then they come out and they

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tell us they say that our son was out selling arrowheads with the winds. They believe that he
was involved in my sister's murder. I don't even know how to explain the emotions of that other
than what's going through my mind at the time is I just can't even believe that because my son is
just not murdering kind of person. But then I'm also thinking, well, my goodness, this is FDLE

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at the time I had a very high regard for them. I'm thinking, well, if they're telling me that this
is true, there must be something to it. So instead of just jumping right out saying, oh, no, not my
son, like I need to know if my son is involved in this, we need to get to the bottom of this. We
just sit back, try to digest and process what's going on, which is not an easy thing. And really,

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we don't have any information. They don't let us see. Don't let us talk to him or anything like that.
We just know that he's been out selling arrowheads with them. Really, what's going on now that we
know, like, and I'm able to see interviews and read and see things, what happened next was they
take Mandon and Rodney in to be questioned. Rodney doesn't speak. He has quite an extensive

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background with, you know, going to prison and being in trouble. He doesn't speak to him. He
tells him he wants a lawyer right off. Garrett gives two interviews in there trying to tell
everything that he knows where they were selling arrowheads because he's like, yeah, we were selling
arrowheads. The Wittons had a bunch of arrowheads. They did have a lot of arrowheads. And to be

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honest, we still don't really know a million percent that those arrowheads did come from my
sister's house because it's not like there's a barcode or anything on an arrowhead to say
exactly what's what, you know, let me ask you this, Lisa, did they take your sister's full
collection of arrowheads or did they just take some of them? Well, what was missing from the house

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was only some of them, not all of them. So there was still arrowheads in cases left in my sister's
house. So they don't even really know that they were from your sister's house. They're just saying
that they were. That's true. And I mean, even my niece during trial, when they handed her the bag
of arrowheads that was collected from manning and them that they had been out selling, I mean, she

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went through it and she's like, well, yeah, I think this one is from my mom's house, but no, these
aren't this. These are, I think this one, yeah, yeah, this one was from my mom's house. Further
in this interview, they end up booking and charging Rodney with dealing and stolen property because
people that came forward that said that they actually bought the arrowheads from Rodney.

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I couldn't even be from my son. My son was with them, but they were actually buying them from
Rodney. Mandan is in giving an interview and he says, just a paraphrase it, if y'all will give me
a cigarette and then I'll just tell you everything. And so then he starts going in and he says, well,
I mean, I can't say that Garrett killed his aunt. What I can say is that Garrett came to my house

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and he had some guns in his car and they were up under his console. I was sitting in his car and I
was smoking a joint and I dropped the joint and I leaned down to pick up the joint and I saw the
guns under his seat and I said, dude, I'm a convicted felon. I can't be riding around in this car

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with these guns in here. Garrett said, it's okay. It's okay. I'll get rid of. And so Garrett went
into the abandoned building while Mandan sat in the car. Garrett went in with the guns and then he
came out and didn't have the guns. So he's telling the cops all of this in the interview. Now let me
clarify a couple of things. One, Garrett had a trailblazer that has a console, like a completely

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closed in console. If you were sitting in the seat and you dropped anything to lean down, you could
not see under the driver's seat to see any guns. Right. Like, so that right there was another
statement that Mandan gave during this time when they're asking about, did he know anything about
Ms. Strickland? That was my sister's last name, Ms. Strickland's dad. And he made this crazy statement

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of, well, I mean, I don't know, but if I was pulled up in my garage and there were two dudes
standing in there looking all crazy, I'd freak out and shoot two. And they said, well, is that
what you're saying? Are you saying that Ms. Strickland was in her garage and she pulled in and there
was two dudes? Oh, no, no, no, I know that that's what happened. I'm just saying, you know, if that

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happened, that could have happened. I found that so odd. Like, I've memorized that statement. I have
gone back and thought about that two dudes standing there looking crazy. That is very specific information
in my book. But at any rate, Mandan Widen takes these police officers down to their property in
Lakeburg, which is about 15 miles from downtown Perry, takes them to the abandoned building. And

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I've heard the audio recording of this where the officer goes in there while Mandan stays outside
and he goes in and he doesn't find any guns and he comes out and he says that Mandan is so upset
because he is just certain Garrett went in there in that building that he went in with guns and came
out with no guns. He's so certain about it. So the officer goes back in there to do a second

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search and all of a sudden he notices that on the one of the air vents that there's a he can almost
see like where a fingerprint was. He says, now this is not recorded. He doesn't turn on his
recording for this. So I can't hear audio of how this goes down. Only what he writes in his statement.
And so he looks, he notices that now because Mandan is just so adamant that these guns have

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to be in there. He notices that little speck up on the air vent and so he gets up there and when he
pulls it down, he finds two guns. They definitely were guns that came out of my sister's house
because the serial numbers match the empty boxes that were left in her house. So we know they came
from my sister's house. So you have Mandan's words saying that Garrett took guns in. He didn't go in

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there with Garrett, but he just knows he came out without them. And then Rodney tells him, as they
take them down there, this is one time that he did. He says he saw Garrett have a gun and that he
kept it under the bed where he was sleeping in their camper. Probably didn't clarify this in the
beginning. We were trying, we knew Garrett was having a drug issue. We had been after Garrett to go

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back into rehab. He had already done one year of rehab, probably two or three years or four of this.
Sadly, like most drug addicts, Garrett was not really interested in quitting his habit. My husband and
I were both very adamant that he needed help and that he needed to go back. So Garrett was trying to
stay away from us, trying to stay away from our house because we were constantly like, okay,

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let's sit down and talk. We got a problem here. And that is what actually pushed him out. Chance
meaning how he ever even met up with the Wittons. I'll have to come back and tell that story a
little bit later, completely by chance that he even runs into them. And that is how he got hooked up
with them. Rodney says we're standing in this camper. You're welcome to stay down here. It was

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perfect for Garrett because he could sit down there and get high with these two and not have to come
back to our house where he lived. And here parents grunt about him going to rehab. Rodney says that
he saw Garrett with a gun and it was under the bed where he slept. Where did Garrett sleep? They
asked him. He says, oh, he slept right here in this bed. Two different reports. I can only go off the

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reports that they read. One says there was a gun found under a pillow on that bed area. Another one
says it was found under the mattress. There was a gun found that also belonged to my sister in the
bed that Rodney Witton claims that Garrett slept in for I think it was two nights at that point.
Let me ask you this. Did they ever do any kind of fingerprint analysis on the guns? There was no

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fingerprints on them completely wiped clean. So they say, you know, at this point, I don't really trust
anything that they say. I can only go what they tell us. They tell us that there were no fingerprints
on any of the guns. So you're telling me somebody that handled these guns and if you just kind of
visualize putting two guns up into an air vent, there should be fingerprints everywhere. Yep.

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There should be fingerprints on the air vent. There should be fingerprints on the barrel of the gun,
the handle of the gun, depending on what kind on the on the clip that goes in or if they're
revolvers, it would be on the spinner part. There should be fingerprints everywhere. That is correct.
That's my thought too, especially at this point. And the gun that's up under his pillow. Are you

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telling me that, I mean, let's just let's for giggles say, okay, Garrett had a gun. He put it
under his pillow or under his mattress because he's steady doing drugs, you know, at this point,
but he's smart enough to think about, let me wipe off all of these fingerprints off this gun while
I put it up under my either pillow or mattress that I'm sleeping on. Right. That didn't make a lot

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of sense to me either. Did they ever run ballistics to see if any of these were the murder weapon?
I don't know if they did. They just told us that they were not the murder weapon. Fair enough.
Yeah. I don't think any of them were in 22. I recall just off the top of my head that they
weren't none of them were the correct caliber. Okay. So, so I think we were pretty clear that

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there was three guns and that none of them were the murder weapon. I kind of have a crazy story
about that. We'll get into that later. Have they ever found the murder weapon? That's a crazy story.
Okay. We'll come to that. They come back. So after with all of this with Mandan,
literally they do not charge Mandan with anything. Mandan walks out of free. He is not arrested.

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Rodney is arrested for dealing in stolen property. So Mandan walks out. My son is charged with
felony first degree murder. The only one out of all of them. Garrett, he talks twice, gives interviews
two times without an attorney present. Just trying to tell everything that he knows about
what has gone on. And he's like, did the widens do this? And he's like, I don't know. I mean,

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I can certainly tell you that if they did, I didn't know it. You know, even after the fact,
as time has rolled on, you know, did they say anything? Did you see anything? Did you see guns?
Garrett has always said, has never changed his story. He never saw guns. He never saw the
widens with guns. Like he didn't know that the guns in the bed where he was sleeping. He didn't

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know there was guns in an air vent. Airheads. Yes, widens had tons of airheads. And yes,
we were out trying to sell airheads to come up with some money to buy drugs with. Absolutely.
Yes, we were. And I know that they stole them from my aunt. He does not think that the airheads
came from Shelly's house. Kind of questioning him on that about, well, you know why he's like, mom,

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the desk like is in our office. Yes, it has lots and lots and lots of little cubbies in it. He
said, this wooden has one just like that. He said, when you roll that top open, he said, I'm not
even kidding you. He said, I bet there's probably a thousand airheads in there. He said, I mean,
it's packed. I don't even like you can't even put another airhead in there. And he said that one day

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that when they were going, he said, Mandan said, I know how I can get us some money. He said, granny
keeps good stuff for me. And Garrett was like, okay. So he says he pulls up to their house. Garrett,
he says they pull up and he says, good, granny's gone. And he said, mama, he said that Joker went
up there. And he said, I've never even, I didn't even know these existed. There was a fireplace that

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had, I guess it's like where you can add wood from the outside of the house. He said, he told him,
he said, I'm going to have to get a little bit dirty to get this. And he said, I watched him. He
went over there and opened the fireplace from the outside of the house or all through the fireplace,
came in. He said, and then he came out with a t-shirt. And he said, granny keeps my good stuff

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for me. He says, we can make some money. He says, and they were some big airheads. But he said,
he's still like, he didn't know what my sister had like none of us. Like I couldn't have even
have told you what my sister had. Cause we, that was my sister's thing. Like that was something
our husband got her into. That's not something my family ever did. So anyway, he went in and got
that bag of airheads and came back and got in the car and was like, they were like, let's go,

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you know, we're going to go sell some airheads to some people, get us some money to buy drugs with.
Anyway, back to the story, they let Mandan go. So for seven months, Mandan walked the streets.
Well, it didn't take long. I have people start calling me, man, I just ran into Mandan and
he was all tore up. You know, he was high and he's telling me that he freaked out. He just

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freaked out and he shot your sister and that that's what I started getting. So here I am. And I'm
telling lawyer still at this time, as far as lawyers are concerned. So did any of those people
that were saying that Mandan was telling them this, did they ever write any affidavits or do
anything to help Garrett? Well, not really to quote help Garrett. I mean, they would just come

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forward and just say that Mandan, like Mandan's out on the street confessing to people that he
shot my sister. I'm telling, we did a court appointed lawyer. We decided that we were not
hiring a lawyer. Our thought was if Garrett did this, he should reap the consequences of it. It's
not acceptable. It's not okay. If he killed my sister, he needs to go to prison for life, end

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of story. So we just thought the system would be, you know, if he did it, okay, they would prove it.
If he didn't, then they're going to be cutting loose, you know, that's just not how things work.
So if anyone is listening to this, the people that are listening to this hire a lawyer, I wish
that we had done that hindsight is 2020, but we were just grieving so hard at the time over my

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sister's death. A rest of my son, we just were not thinking clearly. And we were, we just had faith
in the system too. We had faith in the judicial system. Little did we know. So yeah, so I'm
telling the court appointed lawyer everything that's going on and they're supposedly interviewing
people and taking their statements and all this about banding. At some point, our family was never

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even notified that Rodney was let out of jail. I guess he posted on or something. I still don't
know the story on that. And the only reason that we knew this was because I had a friend of mine
call me on January 21st of 2016 and say, have you heard the news? And I'm like, what? They've arrested
Mandan and Rodney and for your sister's murder. Yeah, they picked them up. I'm like, I thought Rodney

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was in jail. Like we didn't even know Rodney had been released. Nobody even let us know that Rodney
had been released. So this is seven months later, like my sister was killed in June. And so now this
is January. Now all of a sudden they're charged with my sister's murder. I'm the one that calls
our court appointed attorney to tell him he doesn't even know that they've been arrested. He's like,

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oh my goodness, let me call and find out. So he calls, oh yes, yes, they were arrested. I'm like,
well, then they must have some evidence or something. So he's like, oh yeah, this could be good for
Garrett. Maybe they've got something, maybe with the people that's came forward and all this. So
long story short, he comes back and basically no new evidence. They've just now decided that they're

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going to arrest him in charge of with a murder. Okay, that's really odd. So the whole time, the
indictment date that my son was charged with was Tuesday the 23rd. That was the day before my sister
was found because their medical examiner had said that they felt like 12 to 24 hours before my sister
was discovered was the point where she was killed. And there was quite a few factors that went into

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them determining that. So for seven months, the indictment date for my son is the 23rd that
was the day. Well, when Rodney and Mandan get arrested seven months later on January 21st,
their indictment date is the 22nd and the 23rd and even the 24th on the day my sister was found.
So they indicted them for three days as a possibility of the murder. They also did

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a superseding indictment that we had no clue of. Our court appointed attorney, I'll be honest,
I don't think he had a clue to be honest, that there was a superseding indictment because they
now changed instead of the 23rd as Garrett's indictment date. They now add Monday the 22nd.

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We didn't know that until we are post conviction attorney that we did hire and how we have found
out all the things that we have found out. He was just blown away by that. He's like,
what did they have to make them change this date? You don't just change a murder indictment date
seven months later without having some evidence to back that up. What evidence do they have?

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That's got to be some pretty hard court evidence when you've already gone to the grand jury and
the grand jury has already issued the indictment. Now you're going back to the grand jury and saying,
oh, let's add this date. That is correct. Now, where in our legal system does it say you can do
that? Oh, and just wait till you find out the story on that. So we're actually by this time,

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kind of we're getting geared up to go to trial, you know, long story short when Mandan and Rodney
both get arrested and charged for my sister's murder. Rodney again, clams up, he doesn't talk,
he wants a lawyer. He doesn't issue any kind of statements to him. Mandan, oh, he goes to tell
him stories and stories does he tell. So immediately they offer him a plea deal. So he will get a 15

(25:47):
year sentence if he tells all the truth about what happened. So Mandan version number one plea
deal is he doesn't know for sure that his daddy and Garrett killed Ms. Strickland. What he does know
is that Garrett, him and his dad drove to my sister's house on let me think what story one story

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one was Tuesday morning, the 23rd, they drove to her house. He sat in the car. My son and his daddy
went inside my sister's house. He's sitting in Garrett's car. But this first story was he didn't
hear anything. He didn't see anything. All he knows is that they came out and they had airheads

(26:31):
and guns and that they left. He didn't hear gunshots. He didn't see anything. That was story
number one plea deal. And he's gonna have 15 years for it. We go to the plea hearing for that. And
lo and behold, all of a sudden his court appointed lawyer who happens to be the son of our post
conviction attorney. I know only in a small town, right? His son is court appointed to represent

(26:57):
Mandan. Okay. And Mandan is done giving this plea deal and it's that my sister was killed Tuesday
morning as the son was coming up. He says all of this. Okay. At this plea hearing for 15 years,
his grandmother has she has mortgaged her property and has hired him a lawyer out of Jacksonville
who's gonna come in and they're gonna get a better deal for Mandan than 15 years. He rejects the

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plea deal and you can just see the prosecutors James McCain and John Weed. They are the Lord. We
are ecstatic because we've already told them that as Shelly's family member, we don't want a plea
deal for them. Okay. Like let them go to trial just like our son did. Because by this time,
our son has already been trial and been found guilty. And I'll back up and talk about that in a

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second. But at that time, he had already been found guilty. So they offer this plea deal and he
rejects it. He hires that lawyer or the grandma hires that lawyer out of Jacksonville. So everybody's
floored. We're happy because I step up to him and I'm like, so I guess you guys didn't see that
coming. Absolutely not. And they said, well, we'll be going to trial because he will not be offered

(28:07):
another plea deal. And we're like, good, because that's what we want. You know, we want him, we
want him to stand trial. Did they ever offer Garrett a plea deal? Never. No, no, never offer Garrett
a plea deal. And his lawyer kept saying that if there's anything you need to tell us, I can probably
get you a plea deal and Garrett's like, give me a lie detector test. He said, I don't know anything.

(28:28):
They did not tell me anything. I can't tell you anything about them. If I did, I'd be lying. And
they talk about because he told him, he said, Listen, if you get a plea deal, you know, you've
got to tell the truth because you're gonna have to pass a polygraph. And my son even said, he's
like, listen, I can say anything you want me to say, but I'm not going to pass a polygraph because
it's not the truth. They did not tell me that they murdered my aunt. I had no idea at all that they

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murdered my aunt. I mean, they didn't talk about it in front of me. They didn't tell me. I don't
know, you know, no, he was never offered a plea deal. Lo and behold, I don't even remember how
many months were all gone. But, um, you know, they can't offer him another plea deal because
he's done turned down the plea deal on my sister's murder. But while Mandan was incarcerated in our
local jail, he beat up his cellmate and he was found to have been in possession of a shank. He

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had cut a hole in his mattress and had a shank held up in it and they found it. So he got new felony
charges while he's in jail. Wait for this to go to trial. So because he got these new charges,
they now offer him a second plea deal. And now his plea deal is that my sister was killed on
Monday night, not Tuesday morning. Like the first plea deal they gave him, it was Monday night because

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by this time, red flags have already really surfaced. And that's what I was talking about at
Garrett's trial at Garrett's trial. To be honest, that is where we really realized something wasn't
right. But I would even say to buy a Harrison was his name. That was the court appointed attorney
for my son. I was talking to buy and I'd be like buying what in the world? What? I don't know. I mean,

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I don't know. We'll just have to wait and see what they have to say, you know, because I would listen
and it would all be about right. And so then they got up at Garrett's trial and all of a sudden the
story was Garrett, Garrett. I mean, I'm literally writing a note to buy a going buy a poll his
interview. That is not what he said. Like in other words, you know, cross examine him on this. Like,

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where did this story come from? Where is this interview? You know, this version of your story,
it was awful. Like by just tripped all over himself. I mean, just he did nothing. He called no
witnesses. Like when we got to the end, like after the state had presented all of their people and
all of these stories and we're going, what is going on here? You know, he rested like when they

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rested his case, he says, we have no witnesses to call. I'm like, by he's like, no, I think we've done
a good job. I think they can see through it. I think that they can see that Garrett was railroaded.
And it's all good. Tells Garrett not to take the stand. Garrett should have, we should have insisted
that Garrett take the stand. You're the attorney. Tell us. I mean, we don't know. You tell us what
to do, you know, but all this stuff is just unfolding like quick. Like his trial was literally

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two days. So I mean, it's just bam, bam, bam. And I mean, I knew they were going to find him
guilty because they made him look guilty. I mean, they presented nothing to counter it. And even
two, we didn't even know all of what we know now. Like I'm fixing to tell you about all the evidence
that we uncovered post conviction that is just mind blowing. That gives way to ineffective

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assistance of counsel. 100%. I mean, without a doubt, 100%. Now they are offering a second plea
deal. Like this is all, you know, Garrett's down guilty. All this is over and done with.
And he comes in for the second plea deal. It's now Monday night and he now has a new version,
a new story. He says that he did go into the house. They all three went into my sister's house. It was

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at night, Monday night. And if you knew my sister's house, you would know that that was next to
impossible. Like nobody would go in there. You have to walk right by her bedroom to even get into
her living room where all the airheads and stuff were no way that you wouldn't have woke her up
and who in their right mind would go in there knowing that she's home. So anyway, yeah, the

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scenario wouldn't be her sitting slumped over in her car. It would have been in her bedroom.
Yes. And to like my sister was dressed and I dress when she was killed. So if they woke her up in
the middle of the night, she wouldn't have been asleep in her dress. Right. She would have been
asleep in her t-shirt or, you know, even nude possibly we get hot when we get older.

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Right. Exactly. Especially in Florida in the summertime. Yes, exactly. He says that his newest
version and I have to even interject this. They do a plea hearing for this in front of the same
judge that has presided over the whole case over my son's trial and everything. We are adamantly

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opposed. My parents, her daughter, Jessica is not speaking to us. So she's she's right there along
with the prosecution. She's all for whatever it is that they're doing. But my parents, myself,
my sister's son is in trouble at that time and in jail. My father spoke to him and he was against

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the widens being offered a plea deal. Matter of fact, he was in jail at the same time that the
widens were in jail. They had to keep them on separate wings. Mandan was putting, telling everybody
that he was going to he was going to kill Michael, my sister's son, but he was sending word out and
they have it documented like people coming forward saying that he's trying to put a hit on my nephew

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while they're in jail together and they were supposed to be bringing Michael to that plea
hearing so that he speak to the judge to say that he did not want the plea deal given to Mandan.
Conveniently, they didn't bring him up there. He didn't show. Wow. So my father and I each spoke
at this plea hearing and this was the first mega taste of what are they doing? First of all,

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all of a sudden to offer Mandan another plea deal period after he had already been given one. But
secondly, because it's a completely different day that he's now saying and he goes in because at this
time, though it's hard to tell the story, at this time, we have with our new attorney, we have found

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evidence that Garrett was in Jacksonville at a pawn shop on Tuesday morning, ate something in
the morning. His thumbprint is on there. His GPS. He had used his GPS to navigate over there. When we
had asked prior to Garrett going to trial about the GPS to see if there was any kind of report or
anything that could be extracted from it. Prosecutor John Weed told the court appointed lawyer for

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Garrett that it had been examined and that nothing was on it. Leah Harrison, court appointed lawyer,
told us that they had checked it out, that he had hired a private investigator that checked it out,
and that nothing panned out, that there was no sign of Garrett being in Jacksonville any that week.
So we went with it. We didn't know any better. Well, afterwards.

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Due to off craziness, we found out that Garrett indeed was in Jacksonville. It was indeed on Tuesday,
the 23rd, which was the original day that they said my sister was murdered during smack up in

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the middle of the timeframe that they gave for when my sister was murdered. And so now,
Mandan is being, I mean, that's exactly why Mandan was given a second plea deal, because they needed
to move us away. They needed to move the murder from the time slot that Garrett had a guaranteed
alibi for of the morning of the 23rd. Also, the time that their own medical examiner said that

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my sister was murdered, they needed to change that. So they use Mandan to do it. They use Mandan to
say that she was killed on Monday night. They also take a pill container at the same time that they
arrest Mandan and Rodney back on January 21st when they were arrested the first time in charge of my
sister's murder. And whenever that grand jury issued that superseding indictment for my son,

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we find out that they went and collected my sister's daily pill container. Seven months later,
after my sister was murdered, all of a sudden, Robbie Hooker, the lead local investigator,
somehow all of a sudden thinks that this pill container needs to be collected. They go collected
on January 21st. We found out on the 22nd, the grand jury was reconvened and that's whenever the

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superseding indictment was given. So that tells us right off, there's something to do with this
pill container. Robbie Hooker had photographed the pill container when he went the seven months later
in an unsecured home to collect it. He photographed it. And in the Tuesday slot, you could, in the
pictures, there was only one pill visible. Well, all of a sudden, when it's presented to the grand jury

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and also used at my son's trial, all of the pills are now in the Tuesday slot. Didn't the coroner's
reports show that she had some undigested pills in her stomach? Yes, they did. And that was not
brought to our attention until after Garrett's trial. It was never mentioned at trial. We didn't
know it. That was the one area that I was, you know, I could listen to people's interviews,

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but I did not look at my sister's autopsy report back at that time. Just understandable. Yeah,
I didn't. So I didn't, I didn't know that prior to Garrett's trial. Since then, I have read it.
I haven't looked at pictures still to this day and I won't ever, but I did read it because that was
a big part of us presenting evidence at an evidentiary hearing post conviction went nowhere. I mean,

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so much information presented of all this wrongdoing that was done. The same judge, Judge Benham,
same one that presided over everything and has denied everything we've ever put in front of him,
also denied, but that pill container turned out to be quite the piece of evidence. And ironically,
when it, Robbie Hooker went to collect it on the 21st there in his own words, forgot to write a

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report on it. So there was no written report on it. So we're talking no chain of custody whatsoever
concerning this pill container. He put it in his quote, locked vault, which was the trunk, his locked
mobile vault. That's what he called it, which was the trunk of his car. It was not turned into the,
like the courthouse where they keep the evidence locker. When it was turned into the evidence

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locker, I would have to pull my nose to tell you, but like, I don't know, eight days later maybe.
Yeah, I think I remember reading it was like a week later. He finally turned it in.
He turned it in. There's no signature. He doesn't sign like normally they're supposed to sign when
they turn in evidence, no signature on it, no nothing. You know, there was like some of our

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post conviction attorney. He's like, that's what they use to get the superseding indictment.
Somebody has put the pills back in the Tuesday slot to make it look as if she didn't take her
medicine. And if you go back at trial, John Weed was, that's what he used to reference time of
death, despite the own, his own medical examiners 12 to 24 hours. He kept referencing. We know that

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she was killed Monday because her Tuesday pills weren't taken. Who does that? Who is not after
the truth? And why are they doing backflips to help men and women who has confessed multiple times
to actually being the murderer of my sister? And here they are offering a second plea deal
only because he got new felony charges in jail for beating them up and having a shake.

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That's the charges that they use to be able to offer him the second plea deal. He's supposed to
testify against his daddy at trial. So we go to Rodney's trial. We're waiting and waiting and
waiting and it never starts. Come to find out. Menon has pulled everything out again. He told
him that he made everything up. It was all a lie that he had been coerced to say all that

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and that he wasn't testifying. John Weed, who just is looking, you know, like, oh my God,
what am I going to do now? He comes to us. I'm like, so, okay, so you don't have him to testify.
You still have like, there were tons of other witnesses that could have testified against
Rodney. And he's like, well, I just don't feel like we have a case without Mandan. I'm like,
Mandan didn't testify against Garrett. You didn't feel that way at Garrett's trial. Well, I just

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don't think that I just don't think we can do this. We're just, we're going to get him for
stolen, dealing and stolen property and he's an habitual offender. So we're going to go for a
double sentence on it. So when we are at Rodney's trial, all of that comes up. I mean, I could not
contain myself that Albert Willis, all of them were all there and I walk up and I go, oh my God,

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are y'all kidding me? Mandan lied because they knew they knew that that whole thing was a lie.
It was a whole thing made up by them. They just needed it to not be Tuesday because they were
afraid we were going to come back on appeal and win and show all of the corruptness that they had
done because we were really starting to find all kinds of stuff that was going on that was very,

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very shady and they're just all red faced. And so it comes to the time, so they do a plea deal
with him. They plea deal and they tell Rodney that he's going to get 15 years. They don't really
tell Rodney that they're going to go for a habitual offender, which is going to double it. They don't
tell him that. So Rodney thinks he's thinking he's only going to get 15 years. So my mom,

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we all speak and we just, we say our part about, we're very disappointed that Rodney is not going
to stand trial. We were even more disappointed judge that Mandan was given a second plea deal.
And so now here he is, he's admitted that he's lied again. And by the way, Mandan ended up with
a life sentence because of that. It's like associated with the murder, but he's not a convicted

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murderer. But he got a life sentence out of it. But Rodney, after my mom, you know, my mom gave a
real heartfelt plea to the judge there at Rodney's sentence. And I guess it struck Rodney because Rodney
wanted to speak. And his lawyer says, I have highly recommended that he not, but he's going against

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my advice and he wants to issue a statement. Rodney gets up. Now this is before he sentenced.
And he says, well, judge, I just want to say this whole thing has been a fiasco. I'm going to paraphrase
it for you. This whole thing has been a fiasco. I can't say that Garedar would kill that lady. I
don't know if he killed her. I'm not sure about that. I just know. And he turns around and points,

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he says, all I can tell you is that that FDLE agent right there, Albert Willis,
and he points at him and everybody in the courtroom turns around and looks at him and his face turns
deep red. And he's looking, he says, all I can do is tell you that that officer right there told me
that if I put the guns in Gared's hands, that all my troubles would go away. He says this in

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court now. And Albert Willis starts shaking his head and he thinks, I did not say that. And I just
look at him like, oh, if my eyeballs could have killed that man. I look at him, I'm like, wow.
You know, and so he's like, I just, he finishes up. I just don't, I feel sorry. I know Ms. Trickland
was a good woman and she didn't deserve this. And to be honest with you, I was kind of wondering

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because Rodney has been so tight lipped. I know Rodney is capable of great evil. Trust me. I've
heard the stories. There has been other people that people have said that he has killed his own
mother in her deposition told our court appointed attorney in her deposition that she thought that
Rodney killed his father. She told him that she thought that he put a pillow over her because

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his dad was dying with cancer and that he went in to see him and that she thought Rodney put a pillow
over his head and suffocated him. Now, what mother says that? A mother that knows her child is evil.
That's right. We are just sitting there all floored. So he finishes saying all of that and I'm like,

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wow, I cannot believe he just did that. So he gets done and he sits down and then they sentencing
and they sentencing as a habitual offender and double the 15 years to 30. I mean, he even said,
what 30? You told me I was getting 15 years. So there we go. So Rodney goes away for 30 years.

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Mandan's in prison for a life sentence. My son is a convicted felony murder, although they did not
find him guilty of being in possession of the gun. He just got the felony murder. They couldn't say
that he was the shooter kind of deal, but long story short, he's the only one that was ever charged
with my sister's murder. And yet he's the one that has the alibi for the time of death according

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to the coroner. That is correct. Yeah. And how that I'm going to back up and tell this little story
the day before Garrett's trial started, I had earnestly just been praying like God, if Garrett
did this, show me because I needed to know. I needed to know if my son's going to prison for life.
I need to be able to accept this and I can accept this if he killed my sister because that's the

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right thing, you know? So I'm praying that earnest prayer and God, if he didn't show me so I know
how to help him. So there was this guy that was supposed to Lester Terry is his name. He was
set to testify for the prosecution against Garrett to say that he saw Garrett's vehicle
in the driveway. He's kind of neighbors to my sister. There's one driveway, one plot of land

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between his land and my sister's land. And he was supposed to testify that on Wednesday, I don't
remember if it's Wednesday or Tuesday, it doesn't matter anyway. He was set to testify that he saw
my son's trailblazer in the driveway between his house and my sister's house. And as John

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Weed, the prosecutor put it, looking to see if she had been discovered, it would have been Tuesday
because it would have been the day before that he was in there, pulled in the driveway, sitting there
and they alleged that he was looking to see if my sister had been discovered. Now, right off the
bat, because I live here, you don't have to pull up in a driveway to see if my sister's garage door

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is open. You see it very clearly from the road, even that theory, it just paints the wrong picture.
You know, like I was telling the attorney, I'm like, maybe even bring the jury out there and let
them see how crazy that is because that's crazy. Nobody would pull up in the driveway to see if
she was discovered. They would simply look from the road to see if the garage door was open, you

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know? Yeah, kind of drive by. Simply drive by. So that was the correspondence I was having back
and forth before the trial with them. And I said, also, I said, even more importantly than that,
remember Garrett is on video surveillance. It's a place called Southhouse. That was one of the
places that Garrett had went into to sell Aira head. Another point that I made to the court of

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appointed lawyer, I'm like, look, here, it might be a little dense in the head from drug use, but he's
not so stupid that if he just murdered his aunt, stole her era heads, he's not going to go to the
local South house, which is a furniture shop slash pawn shop in town and sell her era heads. Okay,

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right? And he was, he was up trying to sell era heads to the owner. His name is Mark. I'm like,
Garrett, he might be a little slow, but he ain't that slow. Like that is another indicator to me
that he clearly thought the era heads belonged to the Wittens and was and had no way shape or form,
you know, thought that they came from my sister's house. I'm saying about this guy that's going to

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testify. I say he's on video surveillance at Southhouse at the same time that the guy is saying
that the vehicle is parked over there in the driveway looking to see if my sister's been
discovered. You know, I'm like, you can just blow that right out by that because he's on video
surveillance. It don't lie. I hear since sends me a picture of Garrett and he goes, this is the

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video surveillance of Garrett in Southhouse at the same time that you're talking about, right? Well,
I just take a look at it just briefly talking back and forth with by never seen this picture of
Garrett supposedly in Southhouse. I take one look at it. First thing right off is not Southhouse.
So I mean, that's the very first thing I'm like, this ain't Southhouse. Click the picture and I

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blow it up. And when I blow it up, it's got the time stamp on it and it's the date and it's not
Wednesday. It was 100%. Now it was Wednesday. That's when the guy was saying that it was the day my
sister was discovered. Okay. Because I remember that clearly. That's how we knew that Garrett was
in Jacksonville. That was the first indication because when I blow up the photo, it's not Wednesday,

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which is the day that Garrett's in Southhouse. It's Tuesday. So I email back to by and I'm like,
where did you get this? What? First of all, this is not Southhouse and he emails me back. Well,
the state attorney's office says this is Southhouse. I don't care what they say. I live in Perry. I know
what Southhouse looks like. More importantly, look at the day it is Tuesday. Bleeding up by I had,

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I mean, he really had us all convinced that Garrett was just passed out on drugs on Tuesday,
the day that Shelley was killed because, you know, we didn't know Garrett was in Jacksonville at that
time because he had already squashed all that. He told us he checked it out. It didn't pan out. There
was no evidence on the GPS. So we just bought that. We didn't think they would lie. I said,
oh my gosh, that is Tuesday because by a given open the statement with he's passed out in the

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high on drugs in that camper, you know, on that Tuesday, that's what he says. Wow. That's what
we believe. Now, all of a sudden, there's this picture the day before the trial starts of him
at a place. Where is this place? By a doesn't know, but listen, he's got to get prepared for his
opening statement. He'll bring it tomorrow when he comes because that's when jury selection is

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going to come. He's going to bring the disc with it on there for me so I can pop it in the computer
and take a look at it. Okay. Well, all night, I'm just in where is that? Like, I don't have a clue
where this is. It just cannot even get any worse. He comes busting in the door. I had to go to pay
less shoes and buy these shoes. I'm sorry. I'm running late. My dog chewed my shoes. I had to go

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buy these shoes and hold my I need it. Do you have some poster board in here? I need some poster board
and yes, I have some poster board. You know, can I see that desk? I want to see that picture of
Karen. Oh, I forgot it. I've been so busy. I forgot it. But we'll we'll deal with this later. Let's
get through jury selection. Okay, we get through jury selection trial actually even starts. They do

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opening statements that afternoon. So here I'm still sitting here thinking where is this picture?
Where was he on this Tuesday? No mention of it whatsoever. It's never shown in court. I've just
seen it the day before for the very first time. I'm wondering where it is. We go through the trial.
No mention of it. The next day comes. That's where we should start the next day comes and I'm

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I talked about he promises me he's bringing me that desk so we can take a look at it.
That's in there. He forgets it. Wow. At the end of the day, I said, by all we're going to follow
you back to your house and get Lisa. I am just I am just too exhausted for that. Listen, I promise
you I'm going to bring it. I just don't see how it can help us. Nothing's gonna is is him in some

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pawn shop. It just makes him look more guilty. Like he's out trying to pawn everything and state
attorneys. Are you calling them a liar? Are you saying this is not South house? I said,
I'm not calling them anything. I'm just telling you drive you down to South house and let you
take a look like it's clearly not South house. I need to know where it is. Right. I promise we're
going to deal with this. Well, we don't. He don't. He never brings it. We get like I said, the trial

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was very short didn't last long. So bam, Garrett's found guilty. I blew the picture up. Now this is
a they let us go see Garrett like after he's found guilty. I don't remember if it was that same day
he was found guilty. They let us see him or if it was the next day. But one of those two, I just
waltzed right on up into the prison visitation. I'm like over it by this point, you know, I just

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waltzed right in there with it and I pop it in the window and I say, Eric, where is this? He don't
have any idea what day it is or anything. And he goes, it's just like a light bulb. I mean, you can
just see it and he goes, that is Tallahassee. He said, you know, because I'm still thinking all I've
ever heard is Jacksonville, you know, well, he says that is Tallahassee. He says that is the day that

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I went to Jacksonville. I went and remember and I'm thinking, no, I don't remember you telling me you
went to Tallahassee. Well, he had told by that's the whole thing to buy kept telling us like every
time we would go to visit Garrett at the jail, do not talk about the case. What a mistake we should
have. We didn't have anything to hide. We should have, but we weren't like we were just not talking
about the case like because he just kept telling us they're recording everything. They can use

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everything against him and I kept telling by even to the point where by I got mad at me, I'm like,
look, if he did it, he needs to be found guilty. At least I am his defense attorney. I said, well,
I don't care. I am Shelly's sister and if he's guilty, I don't want you getting him off. He needs
to be found guilty. You know, right? We should have taught, but I did. And so, you know, Garrett

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had told by a on the maybe three times that by ever even went to see him prior to his trial. He
had went Jacksonville to Tallahassee for Garrett's found guilty. Where is this light bulb? That's
Tallahassee. That's the day I went to Jacksonville. He said, um, and he tells me exactly what he
pond. I pond around real in Jacksonville and he pond a bow and arrow and old bow and arrow that

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he had. So I got 50 bucks for it. Tallahassee. We're in Tallahassee. He tells us cash America
over by the mall. My husband and I literally like, we couldn't go to Tallahassee right then. It's an
hour drive. First morning, I mean, we're up at the crack of dawn, have my picture in hand. We drive
to Tallahassee, walk in the pawn shop. I need to know is Garrett accurate? Is his brain functioning?

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Right. If it is, if this is indeed Tallahassee where he just told me it was, we got to do something
because we got a problem. This is Tuesday when I know my sister was killed. Like I have no idea
why they're trying to back up at trial to make it Monday night. The only thing that made sense,
and there is tons of communication between by and I, he has no idea why they back it up to Monday.

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He claims that it was because they had Garrett on video surveillance like it two in the morning
getting gas at a gas station. That was what they were trying to claim was that he's out and about
doing all of this stuff. I walk in that pawn shop and I stand there and the people are like, hi,
can we help you? Danny Arwood. He is right. He is standing right here and I'm holding it,

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comparing it with everything. And I'm like, oh my goodness, what is going on here? And he was in
Jacksonville before this. So, you know, now I've learned so much. Now I know that we didn't even
have to do that. There was a store number over in that side that we could have, it would have pulled
up the exact location of it. Maya Harrison got that from John Weed, the prosecutor. I don't know

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when he got it, but that tells me that they knew if they had Tallahassee, they knew because they're
linked. They were both cash Americas. If they had that picture of him in Tallahassee at Cash America,
they knew he was in Jacksonville a couple hours before it. But conveniently, well, who knows?
I mean, I don't know. I've never got the whole case from Maya Harrison. Who knows what they sent

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them. I know that our attorney, post-conviction attorney that we hired, paid a private investigator
to drive to Jacksonville and she went around like Lincoln from the information she had off the
Tallahassee one. She found the cash America where Garrett was, got a copy of the invoice,
copied with his thumb print, exact time stamp of where he was there and that he had on a rod and

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reel exactly like he had said. So that's why they changed the time of death to Monday night.
That's why they changed it. And that's why they did the whole thing with the pill container,
with no proper chain of custody whatsoever. But that could have never even been admitted as evidence
because it was no proper chain of custody. Matter of fact, they presented it as if it had been

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collected from the scene on the day of the crime. We never knew until David Collins found that it
had been collected seven months after on the day before the grand jury. We didn't know any of all
of that until long after that was post-conviction. And with the GPS, he had reached out to John
Weed, the prosecutor. He told him that it had been examined and nothing was on it. Okay. So he told

(57:32):
by a Harrison that I don't remember. Anyway, to the point of what he told the post-conviction
attorney, he told him that it had been examined and nothing was on it. Well, by this time, his
name is David Collins, our post-conviction attorney had been already catching. He's like,
something is not right. He said, I'm literally scratching my head because I have worked with

(57:57):
John Weed for many years and I've never known him to be anything but truthful, you know,
straight up. But he had already been catching him in some lies. And so he said, you know,
just for good measure, I'm going to do a public record search. He did a public record search.
And sure enough, the GPS had been examined and there was a complete report on it. And it had,

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it clearly, like it had the timestamp of where Garrett was in Jacksonville. And that had been
done almost to, I think it was to the day, one month, exactly four weeks after Garrett had been
arrested, a month to the day that report had been generated. Our lawyer says, look, this is all in
email too. You know, he emails him back. He's like, look, John, I'm not pointing any fingers,

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but you told me that there was nothing on the GPS. And I just did a public records research,
or search, not research, and it was examined. And there was a report. He's like, oh, well,
my goodness, like he played dumb. Now trust John Weed is not dumb. And if you're a lead suspect,
like the one that you think has done this murder, and if they have a GPS in their car,

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do you think that you forgot to go pick up the report from the GPS? Nope, you did everything
you could to bury that report because they did not fit the narrative. Yes, you did. There is
something I want to ask you though, going back to the jury selection. Why did he only have a six
person jury? That's it for today's episode of Wickedly Judged. Thank you for tuning in and

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