You Can't Say That In Church (Say Dat Pod)

Joseph Joshua rolled up a joint on Super Bowl Sunday, turned down the party, and went to church high as a kite to chase the Holy Ghost. God showed up anyway. Episode 32 is the whole redemption road: ten years in the Cincinnati streets, jail or hell, the hood calling him weak when he changed, the right way to fast, and the airport shoeshine stand that became Millions of Dollars Worth of Wisdom. Plus: the quart of soap, better to mar...

Nate Rose had millions of streams in the mainstream. This year he crossed over backwards, into Christian rap, and Episode 31 is the whole story: the Nashville scene that left him on read, the streaming fight with Curtis King, and the songs that kept pointing up until he went two feet in. Then the couch put Drake on trial. Gangster after the money, the leak at 40, why a Christian album would be his biggest release ever, why SpongeBo...

A man watched John Diggs' video about lust at 10 p.m. and was in his DMs confessing by 2 a.m. John's answer opens Episode 30: I'm not your pastor. I have no relationship with you. Go find somebody who actually knows you. From there the whole machine gets run down: influencers posting Bibles they haven't opened, Haven, the Bible AI built by astrology developers that pays Christian creators, Christian lamps and energy drinks, the Chr...

Eli Montana and PLM heard the J. Cole stories, so they drove 12 hours from Beaumont to Atlanta with no meeting booked and sat outside Quality Control for four hours in the heat. Lil Baby pulled up the same day he dropped My Dawg. Then CEO P got on FaceTime and said tell them boys to never show up to my studio unannounced again. Eli drove the 12 hours home and got straight on the album. That is the pattern the whole hour runs on. RC...

Comedian Deion T. Washington pulls up to the Batcave for the coffee episode, part two, and it turns into one of the realest sit-downs we have had. He has six kids and a joke for every one of them, but under the comedy is a testimony: he was enrolled in a minister program when he got caught in the car with drugs on him, on his way to Bible study. He did his time, fully surrendered his life to God behind bars, and came out with the i...

Parris told his girlfriend four times not to buy him a futon. She bought it, hid it in her pastor father's garage, and when the man confronted Parris about it she sat there and laughed. Derek's version was a girl in college who cheated and came back with the details. Plus: how Parris actually picked his wife, the plate by the sink that ends marriages, why you can't screw your way to a successful marriage, and the deprogramming both...

Churches used to introduce Derek as somebody's nephew doing a little Christian rap thing, and give him two songs to prove he wasn't the devil. Parris came back from an Atlanta showcase where 20 artists, half of them teenagers, were putting each other on instead of competing. Plus: why a label owner is telling artists to go get a job, the prophetess who walked away from $50, the seven sons of Sceva getting jumped, and why practice m...

A viral clip on the placebo effect of addiction turns into the realest talk on the show: the stress relief is really relief from the cravings the habit caused, plus Derek's testimony of two addict fathers and a food-addict mom who came back. Then the flip, the Bible was never a placebo, and a lawless world minus the flames is already hell. Derek Minor and Parris Chariz also run the letters (love vs lust, coaching the church instead...

A gang in Volusia County used a church as a laundering front, 50 arrests followed, and the news framed every church for it. Derek Minor and Parris Chariz run the raid, the Ozark money math, fact vs first, and why the sins of a few stick to the whole. Then the flip: God's law as the original game (thieves repay 120%, the edges of the field feed the poor, jubilee erases debts), why a Christian label contract should be the fairest in ...

Derek turns his living room into a venue and Parris Chariz plays his new album 'The World Is Watching' (out Friday) song by song with the story behind each. Christ or Cash and the prosperity-gospel gut-check, the near-death meningitis testimony behind Christian Mingle, get off the Amish stuff / church legalism, why he can't stand how Christian rap talks about women, and hip hop in Nashville. Explicit: live-room language and album b...

The language backlash blew up. Proper XL clipped it, the comments split the camp, and Derek answered with a disclaimer. So Parris called in the one person who could really settle it: Derek's mother, Prophetess Joyce Hawkins. She doesn't curse and she disagrees with him, but she dismantles the legalism (a curse word is not a curse; pronouncing doom over a life is). Derek lays out his why and who he's actually talking to. Then Mama t...

Yung Miami's Spend Dat has the whole internet dancing, and the kids know every word of a scammer anthem. Derek Minor and Parris Chariz open Episode 20 plain: the years of being hard on Christian rap were never hate. The point is elevation, because when genius meets poverty you get Spend Dat, and the kids deserve a better anthem. Then the rest of the table: failure is not faith, stop being a failure. Solomon was lit and Jesus would ...

Gen Alpha isn't buying Christian rap. Derek Minor brought his sons Zane and Nolan to the Batcave — and they said what nobody in CHH will admit: Christian rappers just quote Bible verses without connecting it to real life.

Meanwhile, Usher cleared one of his biggest songs for Aaron Cole's gospel record. And Miles just became a potential first Christian rapper on XXL's Freshman List.

Plus: Parris Chariz tells Derek's son what n...