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June 19, 2025 68 mins

If we’re going to build healthier workplaces, we have to treat culture as more than just a buzzword.

In this episode of Heliona Insight, I sit down with Dr. Katie Gaebel, Vice President of People & Culture & Co-founder at Iconoclast Advisors, and a leadership strategist with deep roots in higher ed, executive development, and organizational transformation.

Katie brings clarity to what workplace culture really is: a human science. Not a program. Not a ping-pong table. But a system of behaviors, emotions, and choices that either support people or slowly wear them down.

We explore what culture feels like at its best, what leaders often get wrong about engagement, and why emotional awareness isn’t a “soft” skill, it’s a necessary one.

If you’re building teams, leading change, or simply trying to make work more human, this episode is your blueprint.

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