07-18-25 FULL SHOW - The Empire Lyric Players are In, Plus A Hall Of Fame Push

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm your host for the next three hours. Enjoining me
today and the revolving producer Jair of the week, that
is Zach Seegers. Everybody, Hey, everybody, or, as i'll call him,
mister Seekers, so distinguished with his beard and mustache. I
gotta tell you, I'm thrilled that those are coming back.
Hard mustaches. Beards, love facial hair. I have always loved

(00:20):
facial hair. Oh, let's not forget. It's Friday. Everybody all
together now. Whooo, that's right, there you go. I did
not forget. We're gonna have a really fun show today.
I feel like a lot of the shows lately have
kind of been like, oh, by the way, Zach, you've
never been here. When the Empire Lyric players come in

(00:41):
to promote their upcoming Gilbert and Sullivan's show, have you No,
I have not, because they're gonna sing. But we kind
of configure all the microphones moving in one direction and
it's it.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Works pretty well. We'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
So you're gonna have to put your sound engineer hat
on today to make them sound as good as possible.
Talk about the blog for a moment. You can find
it by going to mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot
com looks for the headline in the latest post section
that says seven eighteen to twenty five blog the empire
lyric players are in plus a.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Push click on that and here are the headlines you
will find within.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Are you doing with missing office?

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Half of American all with ships and climas? And see
that's going to press flatch.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Today on the blog A little song for your Friday bubble?
Deserve the Hall of Fame? Yes, Trump is old? Another
dem enters the eighth congressional race. Where are Republicans to
run for? These saints? Kiss can and gold play catches
and cheaters? Colorado River issues are partly the Fed's fault.
Aren't we tired of soft on crime? DA's yet a

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new lawsuit over the forest speech and the Kelly Loving Act.
If you love public radio, time to donate Steve Miller
Cancel's tour for dumbass reason? Why are young people getting
coldon cancer? Stephen Colver gets canned? The so called princess
treatment isn't controversial TGIA Fairbody one hundred and five is
too late, but what political correctness really is? Time to

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go golfing at Coarsefield and now top ten Dogs of
the Week, more local restaurants appear at DIA. What an
anti climactic death? Why are we stuck with high fruitose
corn syrup? The real story about hormone replacement therapy and
those on adlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com.
And as you can see, there's a little bit of

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this and a little bit of that.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
There's some serious and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
But we've got two guests coming in first, the Empire
Lyric Players, if you've never heard them before. Now, this
is an annual tradition and it was brought to my
attention years ago by the intrepid Dave Lower, who, by
the way, is doing great talk show not too long ago.
He is thoroughly enjoying his retirement that is full of
music and books, live in his best life, as the

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kids say. But Dave said, hey, there's this group and
they do Gilbert and Sullivan music. Gilbert and Sullivan wrote opera,
etta's and you know things like that, not full blown operas,
and everything that Gilbert and Sullivan did, well, maybe I
don't know. I don't know all of their work, so
I can't say everything a lot of what they did

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is with satire designed to poke fun at the upper
classes and things of that nature, but do it in
a way that felt classy, you know, And this is
no they're doing the Micado this year. This is a
great show and it's going to have a fun spin.
And if you've never heard them on the show, you're
either going to love it or you're going to hate it.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
I'm just going to tell you right now.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
And I know this because every year after they're on,
I get a series of messages that say things like,
oh my gosh, Mandy, this was so much fun, thank
you for having them on, And then the next sets
message will say I hated every second of that, Please
don't do it again. So this is a very polarizing segment,
but your host enjoys it. And I'm trying to class

(04:01):
some of these people in this audience up a little bit. Yes,
it's meet their veggies, give you guys some culture, whether
you like it or not. So that'll be later in
the show, and you can you know, you can say
or not.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
But it's I love it.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
It's always entertaining, and this year they're doing some some
fun stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
And then at one o'clock.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
My friend Justin Adams, who works for CBS down the street.
He has been working really really hard to make sure
that an athlete from Colorado was finally elevated to the
Colorado Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
And we're going to talk to Justin about this man.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
He was a standout in the Negro leagues back in
the day and really really great Negro League baseball player
and now he is in Colorado's Hall of Fame. But
the story's just cool. So Justin's going to come in
at one to talk about that. So those are kind
of the fluffy things that are are in the beginning
of the blog. And then I have some serious stuff,
so let's just knock let's just knock it out of

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the way. Okay, let's just get it over with. So,
in a bit of refreshing honesty, the White House has
come clean about some health issues that Donald Trump is having,
and they are health issues related to age. A lot
of the times they happen to people who have been
overweight their entire lives, and it's called chronic venus insufficiency.

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And the reason that he's had to come clean about
it is because lots has been made on the left
about two things. Number one the size of his ankles
as of late, and he does have some cankles, although
I was told during the reign of Hillary Clinton that
it was impolite to talk about people's ankles, but whatever,
I guess we've come full circle. So people on the

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internet were pointing out that his ankles are really big.
And then at one point he was at an event
and it was very apparent that he had gotten a
bad makeup job on the back of his hand to
cover something up. So the White House came out and said, look,
he's been died nose with chronic venus insufficiency, and that
happens when the valves in your veins stop working properly

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and it causes blood to pull in your feet and ankles,
and it's a benign condition. It's annoying, as I'll get out,
makes your legs really tired, and you know, there's things
they can do, but there's nothing. Really They're like, yeah,
he's you know, he's almost eighty years old. These are
things that happened to old people. And he's also on
an aspirin every day to keep him from having a

(06:27):
stroke or a heart attack. Although there is some question
about the effectiveness of a daily aspirin.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
I'm just saying, he.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Takes an aspirin every day, and I'm not his doctor,
so he shouldn't listen to me, even though I'm saying,
look into it, okay, can actually weaken your veins. Anyway,
I'm not going to give you medical advice anyway. Last
time I did that, I was so wrong. I'm not
gonna do it anymore. And that was about the vaccine. Anyway,
It's gonna be that kind of Friday people, It's just
gonna be.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
That kind of Friday.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
But the White House came out and laid out what's
going on, how he's being treated, what the doctor said,
and I thought, to myself, Wow, that's that's interesting, just
saying what's wrong. Maybe like there's not a whole team
of people around him trying to cover it up. They
should have just put a pair of aviator glasses on

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him and called it a day. Now, See that that
joke that I just deployed, Zach, You didn't get that
joke at all?

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Did you no clue what I was saying. I just
wasn't funny.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
No, it was funny. I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
I know.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
He laughed on the inside on the internal chuckle.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
Okay, I thought it was better choke the aviator glasses
and ice cream. Yeah, the scoop pair of the Joe
Biden PREMI President not the finest comic moment.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yes, not on purpose, just yes it does in hindsight.
Still feel very weakend at Bernie's anyway. So the White
House has been open and honest about that, which is
nice and refreshing. By the way, it's Friday, and I've
just decided every Friday and ask me anything Friday because
I love it. Mandy, forced culture, Mandy becoming a liberal.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
I don't know what that means. Forced culture?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
What is that? Any clarification texture? Try again, Hey, Mandy,
that bruised comment on the blog Shaking hands can bruise
the back of the hand.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
You know.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
The only reason I have the President's back on this
is because my mom is eighty one and she is
in really great health. My mom at eighty one, like I, please, God,
let me be in as good physical health as my
mom is at eighty one. She's in great, great physical health,
and I'm very grateful for that. But she calls me
the other day, she's all salty and she's mad and

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I'm like, Mom, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
She goes good grief.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
No one tells you that when you're old.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
You can shake hands with someone in the back of
your hand looks like you got smacked with a hammer.
And I was like, no, No one did tell me
that she is now having what happens when you get older,
and that is there is a weakening of veins, and yeah,
stuff like shaking hands. If you my mom is bumped
into a doorknob and ended up with a bruise that
was like sixteen inches around. So yeah, it's one of

(09:12):
those things that happens to older people. Mandy, you can't
talk about ugly people's ankles. Okay, I got it, Thank you,
Thanks for the clarification. Did not know, Mandy, I heard
that boj Angles in Peblo was actually inside a truck
stop that was recently built. Perhaps this is why they
went basic with the chicken tender. Still, I wish they

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would have went with the fried chicken. Maybe it's an
explanation for going so basic on the food choices. No,
that's what they're doing in multiple markets. They're rolling out
chicken tender only places, which is so disappointing. Just so
incredibly disappointing. So we've got that. That's today's White House News.
I don't think I have anything else that we have

(09:54):
to talk about today from the federal government, which is
lovely got some Well, we've got a couple of.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
I have to tell you.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
I do want to talk about this story just for
a second, about public Radio because with the passage of
the recisions that were just passed by the House, they
were passed by the Senate, they were passed by the House,
public Radio is going to lose its federal funding. And
I have people that I consider friends that work at
Colorado Public Radio, and I don't want them to lose

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their job. I have never wanted them to lose their job.
I have simply just wanted me to stop having to
work to give money to the government that the government
gives to my competition.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
I find that deeply offensive.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Right, My tax dollars as a person who works in
commercial radio should not be used to promote or support
radio stations that I am in theory and competition with.
So yeah, I'm fine with the not funding public radio.
One of the biggest issues I've had.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
With this entire operation.

Speaker 7 (11:04):
Is that.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Public Radio has been arguing that they are not biased,
they are not influenced by the government because the government,
federal government only makes like two percent of their funding up,
why would they be Why would that have any influence
over their programming. Now, I'm not saying the federal government
calls up public radio and tells them what to say.
That's not at all what I think happens. I just
think that they are in a bubble and a certain

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sort of mindset exists in their newsrooms where everybody kind
of thinks the same way.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
I think that's more of the case.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
But then on the flip side, they are arguing that
the end of public funding means the death of public radio.
I'm like, wait a minute, you just said it's only
two percent of your funding, but now you're saying it's
the death of public radio. I believe and I think
this is going to be borne out to be true.
The two things are going to happen at Colorado Public Radio.
They're going to have a period of panic and contraction

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and let people go, and then they're gonna figure it out.
They're gonna hire away sales managers, some of them probably
from this company. They're gonna hire good salespeople and they're
going to start selling commercials.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Guess what.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
They're already doing that now, only they're called sponsorships sponsored
by I mean it used to be sponsored by the
Macklemore family and now it's sponsored by the Macklemore family
who own Mackelmore Electric. They're there to help you with
all your electric needs Mackelmoreelectric dot com. That's a commercial.
They're already doing it. They will adapt, they will overcome,

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and I know with certainty that in the state of Colorado,
donors will open their pockets and help them bridge the
gap because people in this state love public radio, and
God knows there's enough money in Boulder to fund public
radio for infinity in this state. So we'll see, we

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shall see. Hi, Manda, I didn't get the opportunity to
go in. But there's a bowj Angles in Rotan, Honduras.
Is there another Rotan? I don't know. Is there a
Rotan New Mexico? What Roatan? Let's see what comes up.
The only Roatan I know is in Honduras.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, just a small island in Honduras.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Are we sure there's not a Roatan New Mexico.

Speaker 8 (13:19):
I'm just making ratone. There's ratone New Mexico. No, I
found the rootan boach Angles in Honduras. Shut up accurate,
that's crazy. It's got good reviews four point two stars.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
This text message said, Mandy, one of my pickleball buddies
is eighty five and she bruises at the drop of
a hat. Correct, Mandy, are you nervous about your upcoming surgery?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Also?

Speaker 1 (13:44):
When you have a hysterectomy, do they sow the vagina
completely shut?

Speaker 7 (13:51):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
God, I hope not.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
We haven't gotten that far in the pre opt for
me to be able to ask that question. And I
can assure you I'm not going to ask that question.
I am nervous. I'm not gonna lie. I mean, you
know it's it's it's not minor like you know, oh,
it's just minor surgery. Just look at like when people
have their knees scope. They're like, oh, it's minor surgery.
It's gonna go in there with the scope like clean

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out some cottilage and stuff. And you're like, oh, no,
big deal, minor. This is not minor surgery. So there
you go, Mandy. It sounds like your mom is on
a blood dinner. I played doctor on the Radio Happy Friday.
She is not because she doesn't need it, because she's
in such good help, and yet.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
She bruises at the drop of a hat.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Hey, Mandy, is Lauren Bobert maturing into a role She
appears to be working hard for the people of Colorado
and not just for her brand. Text her, I gotta
tell you, I have noted the same thing. I had
this conversation with someone else not too long ago. As
a matter of fact, I already know Lauren doesn't like me,
and you know what, it's not unfair that she doesn't

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like me because I have been brutally hard on her.
So I you know, I like, I can get it.
I get it, I understand. But I would like to
be able to send her a note just as a constituent,
saying that not only had I noticed it, I appreciated it.
There's a new level of seriousness, and I think that

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when you go through what she's gone through in the
past few years, personally recognizing that she was not invincible
when it came to her congressional district, I think that
was very sobering. It appears to me. I'm not going
to speculate about her motives, but yeah, she seems to
be focused on the stuff that's important to the people

(15:37):
in the third congressional or excuse me, fourth congressional district
where she is now. She's not engaging in any of
the sort of look at me, look at me, you know,
theatrics that were her bread and butter for a while.
And I got to tell you, I like it. I
like it because I've always thought she was smart. There's

(15:58):
no doubt Lauren Bobert is smart. And people are like
she didn't even you know, she didn't go to college.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
I don't care. She's smart.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
She has the ability to see the landscape. And you
know what, I hope that this is, you know her.
I hope this is her. I hope this is it.
I hope this is how she is in Congress for
two reasons. Number one, she's my representative in Congress, and
number two, Douglas County. I'm not saying it's going to

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be super competitive for Democrats anytime soon, but it's shifting.
As all the people flee Denver, where schools are terrible
and crime is high, and move to Douglas County, where
conservatives have made a really great place to live.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
I'm sure they're going to try and ruin that, And
I wish I.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Was kidding, but you know, I think I don't know
if it was Rush, And some of you guys would
probably remember this better than I do. Was it Rush
That used to always say that liberals.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Are like locusts.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
They go from place to place to place and destroy everything.
And when they destroy their own place, then they move
somewhere else and then just do the same thing and
destroy it there. And I wouldn't say liberals because I
think liberals in my mind, liberals at this point are
the moderate center of the Democratic Party, however much that is.
But hard core aggressives. Yeah, that's definitely what you need, Mandy,

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no joke, any surgery, walk off the air bubbles hardest part.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Once the company goes full corporate, the food sucks. I
don't agree with that, holy because I've worked for some
corporate restaurants that were really, really, really good. Anyway, Mandy,
I've eaten at the bow Jangles in Rowatan. It's terrific.
Now you're just taunting me, Mandy. I hate when I'm
trying to listen to you and my coworker keeps talking
to me.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Do you want me to call them.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Do I need to call them and just tell them
that this texture just needs to be left alone until
three pm? Paulus will just add an NPR fee to whys.

Speaker 9 (18:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, Anyway, Manday's step one, change from bone into tenders.
Step two, change from tenders to fake meat. Step three,
pay more for medical bs related to fake meat. I'm
not saying that's crazy. Hey, and Mandy Connell Radio Folk.
Isn't it wild that CEO caught cheating at a Coldplay show?

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It's the most singles Coldplay has made in years? Ha ha.
You know what, when we get back, I do want
to talk about this story. And normally I don't talk
about like gossip column stories on the show, but I
have not seen a story storm the entire internet like
this one has in the last twenty four hours. Zach,

(18:42):
do you know the story I'm talking about?

Speaker 2 (18:44):
I thought early yesterday morning. I think I was pretty
early to the party.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Everybody knows this story now, and I'm like what, I
cannot imagine. I cannot fathom. You know what, don't get
me wrong. You know what, if you don't want to
get caught on camera with your arms around some other woman,
don't be married and put your arms around some other woman. Right,
it's very simple to avoid. But whenever something like this happens.

(19:09):
They're not famous people these two, well now they are,
and famous people have a certain amount of what's the
sort I'm looking for? I mean, you have to have
a pretty thick skin to be a famous person. These
people don't have that thick skin. And I gotta tell you,

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I just I could not fathom what it's like to
be these two. I'll tell you the story in case
you're the person that hasn't heard it yet.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
After this, they don't have to be.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
In for anyone if you've not heard this next story.
I generally speaking don't do like gossip stories. Okay, but
yesterday morning, like Zach, I am perusing the new use
and I see this like a headline. I don't even
click on it. It's like, oh, uh, ceo of whatever

(20:09):
tech company, I don't even remember what it's called now, Astronomer.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
I've never heard of this.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
A CEO of Astronomer outed at Coldplay concert and I
was like, I don't care about that. Why why do
I Why would even click it? I didn't click it,
I did not read it. Then I start scrolling through
X because I do that every morning just to look
to see what people are talking about. And everyone on
X is talking about this story. And then I thought, okay,

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well now that every you know, I have to know now,
because if everyone's talking about it, I can't be left
in the dust on that. So I pull up the
story and and hear are the details of this story.
The CEO of Astronomer. His name is Andy Byron. He
is a married dad. He was at a Coldplay content where, apparently,

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according to Reddit and other sources, at every Coldplay concert,
Chris Martin, the lead singer of Coldplay, does this thing
where he puts a spotlight on a couple in the
audience and then he makes up a song about the couple.
He doesn't know anything about him. They just here you go. Well,
they put a spotlight on a couple. It's a man
standing behind a woman with his arms wrapped around her

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in a very intimate post. She's leaning against him, and
as soon as they realize they are on the camera,
he drops to his knees to crawl out of the picture,
and Chris Martin, the lead singer of Coldplay, apparently said, well,
they're either really shy or having an affair, ding ding ding.

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It is one of those two things, and they are
not shy. They are having an affair, and their affair
now is known by every single person on the internet.
To her credit, I guess if you're going to credit something,
you know.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
For something.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
She had divorced her husband recently, so she is not married.
But she is also the in it. Just the most
ironic twist of the whole story. She's the HR executive
for the company. That's the thing I was about to say.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
It makes it better that she wasn't the cheater, but
also she had her own background that makes it incredibly problematic.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, because you would think she would know that this
was a huge HR violation, extremely.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Extremely well.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
And I'm too curious about the woman that was next
to them that I think clearly knew what was going on.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
She is the big reaction, bright red sheets.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I don't think she's been outed yet.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
No, And I don't think it matters really. I mean,
they obviously, like people know in their circle, they know,
you know, Golly, I just I cannot even imagine, cannot
even imagine.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
I don't you know they're having an affair. He's wrong but.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
He has kids, you know, she's his wife, is out
there and it's this whole thing is such a nightmare,
just such a It's bad enough to have your marriage
blow up in your face, but to have everybody in
America talking about it, and I just I was shocked.
What do you think it is about this story that

(23:34):
has made, you know, made it just be.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Such a thing.

Speaker 6 (23:39):
I think the scandalous nature, I think paired with the
the kind of comedic nature of the guy immediately.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Like plopping down trying to get out of the camera.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
And then I think, also, you know, it's with celebrities,
with athletes, with anything. People love watching other people crash
and burn, and this is a CEO.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
I don't like it anymore. I mean, I'm not gonna lie.
I used to watch the Real Housewives series just being
because I felt superior to all of those rich women.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
You were just such a disaster.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
But I don't know when it turned.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
For me when I stopped getting any enjoyment now even
when I'm watching the show wipe Out. Are you familiar
with Wipeout?

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Okay, so wipe Out, for those that don't know, is
a show that we imported from Japan. Where they create
these absolutely ridiculous obstacle courses that are designed to like
punch people in the face and knock them into water.
And I mean they're designed to inflict mild harm, you know,
not major hard, mild hard. And they don't force prisoners

(24:36):
to do it. People sign up for it, so I
shouldn't feel bad. But now when I watch it, I'm like, ah,
I can't watch it. I think I just feel all
of it, you know, like physically, like, Oh, that's gonna
leave a mark when you're fifty, you're gonna be like,
what happened to my back?

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, I was on wipeout. You know, Mandy is a
season a season ticket holder with the opposite sex twin.
Whenever I see the kid, I start freaking out. Have
you not seen the guy who comes to every game
with a little sign that he pulls out in the
kiss cam that just says she's my sister these I've

(25:10):
seen videos of him multiple times now, same guy, Just
bring your little sign, that's my brother, it's my sister.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
That woe's gonna care.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
Also, I would hope brother and sister weren't lovingly embracing,
like that's.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
That's what they're saying, they're saying no, they don't want
to do that. This is a good point. People hate
CEOs and HR so when they're both caught, people laugh wow.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Both doing things they'd be telling.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Other people, firing other people for doing. He had kids
when he decided to cheat in public. No, no, no,
you guys are missing my point. I don't feel sorry
for him, and I don't feel sorry for her, because
if you're having an affair, there are cameras everywhere in
this world we live in everywhere. If you think you're

(25:58):
gonna you know, lie about going to dinner with clients
and you're gonna go, you know, somewhere else, I bet
you there's a camera there, and I bet you.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
It's available to the public.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Especially in a concert.

Speaker 6 (26:12):
You know, you just never expected to be on that scale.
You know where you're you're on these spotlight like I've
gone to so many sporting events and concerts, Tack.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
I've ever once been on the jumbo truck.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I've been on one time when I had a super
cute little daughter, and I was just like, you know,
I was just like there, secondarily because I had a.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Super cute little daughter. But it's still though you.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Know, I hide from those. It's like, you know, when
that stuff starts, you kind of lean over, you're checking
your shoelaces. You know a lot of people down here.
I don't like being forced to, you know, kiss someone
just because the camera's there.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
I'm worried about being like the Nuggets will do this
sometimes where they zero in on someone who's like on
their phone, oh, trying to avoid it, and they like
have the timer and it's like how long too, So
I'm worried if I'm not watching, I'm gonna get caught
by one of those.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yes, well that's why you get all the way out
of the.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Frame, you go down. He had the right idea. You
just did it to all the way down. You're like, oh,
look at my shoelace. I fix that, And then when
you sit back up, they're done because there's nothing to see. Then, Mandy,
this wouldn't even be a thing if they just acted
normal when the camera showed up on them. The fact
that he ducked is the reason people investigated it. One
hundred percent. The cover up is always worse than the crime.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
People They both were so bad because she turns around
and like covers her face as it's both like the
most suspicious behavior imaginable.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Correct?

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Did the HR woman complete her don't cheat at Coldplay modules?

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Apparently not? That's hilarious, Mandy.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
I would only think it was an HR violation if
there's a company policy about relationships at work, and you
know who would know? She would just saying, ask me anything,
does Chuck listen to your show live or at all?
The answer is no. So I've seen Steve Miller in concert.

(28:07):
I love Steve Miller band. I enjoy their music. They
have so many hits, Zach, that's one of those concerts.
Are you are you? Would you say you would consider
yourself a Steve Miller fan.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
I don't think I could go as far as fan,
not that I dislike their music, but it's not I
wouldn't pay their music.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
If you went to the concert, you would know probably
most of the words to like seventy five percent of
the songs, because they're just such an ubiquitous part of radio.
They're just they're still played all the time. It's great music.
But I have to say Steve Miller has turned into
an old man. Now, you can be an older guy

(28:46):
and not be an old man. And I'm talking about
old man. How do I know he just canceled the
concert tour. He's eighty one years old. He has every right,
by the way, he does not have to do a
tour if he doesn't want to do a tour. But
this has got to be the lamest reason in the
history of reasons.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
He said.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
The combination of extreme heat, unpredictable flooding, tornadoes, hurricanes, and
massive forest fires make these risks for you, our audience,
the band, and the crew unacceptable.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
You can blame it on the weather. The tour is canceled.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
You guys stop, I mean, stop it, stop it right now.
You're gonna stop the world because of the weather. It's
so frustrating what we've done with the cult of global warming. Now,
I actually think this is a complete cop out. I mean,

(29:43):
I don't know what the real reason is. I think
this is just fabricated, absolutely fabricated. I do not believe
this for a second that they canceled a tour because
they're concerned about the weather.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Because you know.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
What, I've been to a Steve Miller band concert more
than once.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Let me tell you who's at that concert.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Adults who are capable of making decisions about the weather
for themselves, you know. I mean, don't get me wrong,
there are times when there's bad, bad weather and I
have tickets at Red Rocks that I make the decision
not to go because I'm old and I don't want
to do that anymore. I've done it. I've stood there
in the pouring down rain, and I'm good.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
I'm good with that now.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
But this is just ridiculous, so so ridiculous. So it
was like, come on, Steve Miller, come on, Mandy, you're
a gen X from the South, asked this text. Or
did you ever suffer the fate of having to cut
the switch your parents used on you? Or were you
so good that you didn't need to be disciplined? I
my parents, Okay, First of all, I come from a
mixed marriage. Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
If you guys know this.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
My dad is a Southerner and my mom is a Yankee.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
She did not move.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
To the South until she was like fifteen or sixteen,
so she was full on Yankee. So that already I
had the mixed marriage was a problem. But I did
not have switch getting parents. But that does not mean
that I was immune from cutting off my own switch.
But it was somebody else's grandma, and we were at

(31:14):
this is true, someone else's grandma hit me with a switch.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
And now let's be real, not hard.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Okay, it's not like I was being flogged like I
was a slave.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Okay, it was more the drama.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
And if you don't know what I'm talking about, if
you did something wrong, they'd say, go get me a switch.
And a switch is a very thin, like flexible branch
of wood. And there's always like a plant right outside
the door that had these Like I don't know what
that plant was. I have no idea, but there was
always something and if you picked one that was too small,

(31:46):
then grandma would go out and get her own switch.
And you didn't want a piece of that one, right,
so you had to like you had to reason this
out in your kid head, like how big is too big?

Speaker 3 (31:56):
How big is not big enough?

Speaker 1 (31:57):
You have to find the goldilocks of switches, and then
you got to break it off, and then you got
to take it in there, and you got to take
your licks with the switch. And one of my mom's
grandma's gave me the switch once. I did not deserve it.
I just want you to know that because I've been
a rule follower of my whole life. I've never been
the kid that was going to do something incredibly stupid.

(32:19):
First of all, in my kid had I remember going, well,
that just seems stupid, Like what's the point of that.
The only really dumb, dumb thing I did as a kid,
and luckily we only had a one story house, is
that I did jump off the roof of the house
once with an umbrella to see if it would work
like a parachute. It did not, but we had just
put down fresh mulch, so I was okay, didn't hurt anything.

(32:41):
I don't know if I would have done it if
it was a second story house, but if one story
house seemed manageable to me, like, yeah, how much damage
can I really do?

Speaker 6 (32:48):
It feels like the worst part there would be like
the not racing, Like I feel like your ankles and
your knees would really get it.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
I was such like a skinny little kid, you know
what I mean, Just like all.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Skin bones and a heartbeat kind of kid.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
And I was also in gymnastics at the time, and
I kind of just dropped and rolled, so it wasn't
a big deal. I did break the umbrella, which was
really bad news because it was like a really expensive
golf umbrella and I sort of got in trouble for that.
But whatever this texter said, I find it funny to
justify and glorified child abuse because it's the way it was.
Oh no, no, no, I don't spank my kid now.

(33:25):
Granted with my kid, she's great, so that wasn't really
an issue.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
But I don't agree with spanking. I'm just letting you know.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
And I think that the actual psychological part of going
to get your own switch was far more damaging than
any physical pain. I mean, how do you think I turned.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Out this way? You think it was an accident.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
It's Mandy Connell that's sex seekers in for Anthony Rodriguez.
And I go on LinkedIn like once every six months.
And I don't even know why I go on it
every once every six months. I feel like I should,
Like I think, if you're a grown up and you're
a responsible person and you have a job, you have
to go on LinkedIn like once every six months. But
I'm glad I did because I happened to see a

(34:17):
story from a friend Justin Adams, and even though it
already happened. It's such a cool story. I was like, justin,
come on, I want to have you on the show
to talk about this, because you are the guy who
sort of got this whole ball rolling to make sure
that a gentleman of the name of Theodore Bubbles Anderson
made it into the Colorado Sports Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
First of all, welcome back on the show, sir.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Thank you so much for having me. It's to see you.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Good to see you. Tell me a little bit about
how you became aware of Bubbles Anderson.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah, So, Theodore Bubbles Anderson.

Speaker 7 (34:48):
So for those who don't know, he is the only
Colorado native to play in the Negro Leagues, and so
did that at the age of seventeen, and it's believed
that he was the youngest individual to play in the
Negro leagues as well. So how this all started for
me was I was just talking to a friend fresh
out of college and he mentioned something about black baseball
and Denver and so I was like, well, do we

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ever have a Negro league team? And he said no,
but we had a team called the Denver White Elephants,
which was the longest, last seen all black baseball team.
Kind of a semi pro team knows here the.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
White Elephant, the white Elephant, where did that name come from? Funny?

Speaker 7 (35:22):
And so that name alone is like, you know what
you think about white elephantasy is that you have at
the bag, right. So it's different individuals, all black baseball
players who were able to come together and just played
for the semi pro team. And so there was this
fifteen year old Bubbles Anderson who played for the White
Elephants at the time. And so he went from there
and was able to go play in the negro Leagues.

(35:43):
How long did he play in the league? So he
played in the negro Leagues for four years, and so
he played for the Kansas City Monarchs. And when was this,
So this was nineteen twenty two, Holy count Yeah, just yesterday.
He didn't worry about it, right, So he played from
nineteen twenty two all the way to nineteen twenty five,
so four seasons total. Two seasons the Kansas City Monarchs
and they played with the Birmingham Black Bearings to Washington

(36:04):
Potomacs and then finished up his career with the Indianapolis ABCS.
But he finished playing baseball in the Negro Leagues at
the age of twenty So I always tell people think
about your favorite athlete and think about them finishing their
professional career at twenty done.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
So yeah, so what happened to him after? What became
of him?

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (36:25):
So actually that's kind of a little bit of a
tragic story that happened from there. So Bubbles Anderson finished
up when he was twenty years old, and then as
he was actually going, you know, from Indianapolis to Kansas
City to play the Monarchs, he fell ill, got really sick,
and was also homesick too, right, and so he went
home and.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
You have to think about this, how would people get home?

Speaker 7 (36:44):
They're not taking Ie seven the right so you have
to go and take the train. So takes the train
right back to Denver and he becomes a janitor.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
He serves at World War two. Wow.

Speaker 7 (36:57):
But then he dies in nineteen forty three of a
gastric old. Sir, I was only thirty eight years old
when he passed away. Holy cow, goll Ley, what a story.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
So tell me about how he became a part of
the Colorado Sports Hall of Fame's first or twenty twenty
five class. And we just got inducted.

Speaker 7 (37:12):
Yeah, so just got aducted a little bit ago in April.
It was a huge project in order to get him there.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
And so just with the work that I did, I
actually first.

Speaker 7 (37:20):
Nominated him in twenty seventeen, and it took me some
time to be able to go and get him to
the finish line. And what I've learned because I'm the
only African American on the voting committee, so I'm on
the Colorado Sports Hall of Fame vot committee, and I
learned that yes, it's an African American story, right, so
a black history story, right. But it's also the way
that I presented it is, Hey guys, it's.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Our story, all Colorados. It's our story. And so what
I was able.

Speaker 7 (37:45):
To tell them was like, hey, guys, look, as a
Hall of Fame, we would be incomplete if we don't
have Bubbles Anderson in because he's the link for us
to the Negro leagues, the only link that we have.
So we got to make sure that we get him
in it. So it took a little bit of time,
but uh man, praise God, we got it done.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
So does he have any living relatives or their descendants?
Where are they aware of this?

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (38:07):
So this is where it really gets tough. So he
was never married, never had any kids. Wow, not that
we know of. And Jay Sandford, who was a Hall
of Fame, a Nigo League Hall of Fame historian, said
that he spoke to either his cousin or his aunt
in nineteen ninety one and the.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Woman was already up in age and that was it.
So you had about the lineage of Bubbles Anderson and
it is none. There is none.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
It's holy cow. Yeah, what an interesting story. How did
he get the name Bubbles?

Speaker 6 (38:35):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (38:36):
No, No, there's one side where Jay Sanfer was saying
he had a bubbly personality.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Okay, so you know, we just hold on to that.

Speaker 7 (38:43):
But that's kind of one of the fun ways of
It's kind of a scavenger hunt for me, like to
be able to try to find little things about him,
Like I'll give you an example in The Kansas City
Star in nineteen twenty two, so in its first season
it says that he would cry in the dugout after losses,
and I was like, I could identify that.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
That's very Nolan Aernaudo, right, I mean Nolan I one
of the things that endeared me to or endeared that
made me love Nolan Arenado was when he admitted that
all the way almost through high school, he cried after
every loss because he hated losing so much.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Yes, that he would cry after every loss.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
And he's like, and my friends would make fun of me,
but that's how much I hated losing.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
I just did want to do it. But he was
still a kid. He was like a baby.

Speaker 7 (39:23):
He was a baby seventeen years old. So think about this.
Would you send your kid, by the way, you know,
eight hour train rides, eight hour train ride, and said, hey,
go play with some grown ups, play with some guys
who are thirty eight, thirty nine years old.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Sure it'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah right.

Speaker 7 (39:36):
Oh, by the way, this league that you're playing in,
it's just three years old.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Go ahead and don't play.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Them, right, Well, but I mean you cannot compare. We
kind of laugh about this now, Like even my daughter
who is sixteen. You know, I look at her and
I think to myself, I've talked to World War Two
veterans in the past that lied about their age to
go fight at sixteen. I'm fifteen, and now we won't
even let and get their driver's license. In a timely fashion,

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because we don't trust their confidence because we finally realized
that children are still children.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
He was a baby, yeah, just a baby.

Speaker 7 (40:09):
But he played so well. It was one of the
great players that we had. And I would argue, obviously
we don't have any video of him playing, but I
would argue that if you have an individual who you
have other newspaper articles that will say when he came
back after his first season, that there will be an
elevation for him that.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
People went, wait, so he was a little bit of
a star.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
So he was a star. That's really really, really cool.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
I mean, you never think about stuff like it's always
kind of weird and I know what happens all the time.
And now we have a bunch of people who are
saying they're not going to have kids. But to be
the end of the line right for your lineage is
kind of it's kind.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Of a I don't know, a punctuation mark in a
weird way.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
And think about this too, Mandy.

Speaker 7 (40:48):
When he passed away, So he died in nineteen forty three, right,
he died in an unmarked grave.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Oh so he's.

Speaker 7 (40:54):
Actually you could find his grave right now at the
Fairmont Mortuary Mortuary, which is right by George.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Washington High School.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Right.

Speaker 7 (41:00):
The only way that they knew about him where he
was at was because they would keep obviously a chart
of where everybody was buried at.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
Right.

Speaker 7 (41:06):
It wasn't until two thousand and five that he finally
had a headstone on his grave.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Oh my gosh, you got the headstone there in two
thousand and five, Jay Sanfords.

Speaker 7 (41:14):
So he has some help as well, so he was
able to go put that together. But it was with
a foundation within the Fairmont Mortuary as well. But it
wasn't until this you think about it, somebody who died
in the middle of World War Two. Yeah, to finally
have his headstone in two thousand and five, and then
to finally be honored in the Colorida Sports Hall of
Fame in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Just so this just shows the significance of him as well.
So it was really.

Speaker 7 (41:38):
Interesting to be able to be a part of this
project and put it together.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
I was very very happy that he is in the
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 7 (41:45):
But my biggest thing is this, we all have to
learn history like this because it just leads to other
different stories as well.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
So let me give you another one real quick.

Speaker 7 (41:53):
So The owner of the Denver White Elephants we talked
about it earlier was Albert Henderson Wade Ross.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
So, AHw Ross for sure.

Speaker 7 (42:00):
If you go down to five points, there's a place
called the Rossonian Hotel that is named after Albert Hitterson
Wade Ross.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
I was an African American man, was a black man.

Speaker 7 (42:11):
He was an owner of politician prominent, right, and so
when you look at that, you're like, oh wow, now
we get to be able to go and get a lens.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
It's a history with him as well. What else was
going on there in that time?

Speaker 7 (42:22):
Right?

Speaker 2 (42:22):
And that's really why it was so important for Bubbles
Anderson to be in.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Well culturally, tell me about Denver at that point for
black people? I mean, where was it heavily segregated? I
mean I grew up in the Deep South, and even
in my hometown that I grew up in, you still
understood where the segregation lines were, or even in the
seventies they weren't enforced in any measure, but they were there. Right.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Was it like that in Denver? Did everybody living five points?

Speaker 4 (42:45):
What?

Speaker 3 (42:45):
What was that like for him?

Speaker 7 (42:48):
That's the reason why five points were so important because
that's where.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
All the musicians came.

Speaker 7 (42:52):
So when you think about jazz artists, where you think
about other art that just came from there. Where you
think about just churches right there, there are churches that
I've been around. Zion Baptist Church, for example, is the
oldest African American church. It's around five points, right, And
so when you think about all these other different cultural places.
That's the reason why five Points were so important because, hey,
you have black owned businesses that was there. You had

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so many places where people can go and just do
life and enjoy.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Life as well.

Speaker 7 (43:16):
You didn't have you know, sixteen Street mall or anything
like that, right, So that was the place for everyone
to be and it was a huge economic hub at
the time.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Was it was it easy or difficult to be a
black person in Denver back then? Do you think I
can say unequivocally in my hometown it would have been.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Difficult, you know what.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
I think that is a great question, And I guess
you have to put in the context of the time.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
You do have to put in the context of the time.

Speaker 7 (43:42):
But I would say this, maybe for us, we could
look at it and say it was very difficult, right,
But I would argue that during that time, there was.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
More community driven than it is today.

Speaker 7 (43:51):
There was more of a community of hey, African Americans
coming together because you have to think of where it
come from. It came from, right, So you either coming
from the Deep South, like you said, you also maybe
come from Kansas, right because you're making that journey over
to Denver and then you stop here in Colorado. So
you had a small group, but they were able to
come together and quickly build a community. And in many respects,

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that's what's missing from time to time today.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
I think that, I mean, in a bigger conversation, I
think that's missing just in society. And you know, we
now see like epidemics of loneliness and kids that are
going and using AI chat bots as their friends because
they don't have any and that.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
That's something that concerns me.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
But I love stuff like this because you don't necessarily
think about, you know, the history of black people in Colorado,
right because it's not a huge part of the demographic.
I mean, it's a limited part of the demographic. But
I think it's very cool that you kind of made
this your mission to make sure that this guy got
the the you know, recognition for being our representatives in

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the Negro leagues.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
And here's a.

Speaker 7 (44:52):
Thing when people go to Denver Broncos games, right, so
you go to see bo Nicks, you.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
See the team do their thing.

Speaker 7 (44:57):
There's a little area where it says Colorado Sports Hall
of Fame. And to know that somebody is going to
walk by and say, Okay, I know Chroy Solowitzki, I
know MICHAELA. Schriffin, but who the heck is this? They
get our bubbles Anderson. That's what matters right there, because
somebody is going to ask the question, and then they're
going to go on that scavenger hunt like I did
over a decade ago, and you're going to find out

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some beautiful.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
History about Colorado.

Speaker 7 (45:20):
You're going to learn some wonderful history about black baseball
that we had here.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
And I'll give you one more. Two.

Speaker 7 (45:26):
So, there used to be a thing called the Diver
Post Tournament obviously way back, you know, and and in
the day. And in nineteen thirty four, the Kansas City
Monarchs came obviously from Kansas City, and they played in
the Denver Post Tournament. That is the first tournament in
American history that was integrated. So you think about Jackie Robinson.
What happens in nineteen forty seven with him reintegrating the

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game of baseball, Because he did integrate the game of baseball,
Jackie Robinson reintegrated it. The first guy who integrated the
game was a guy by the name of Moses fleetwood Walker.
I'll say it again so you can search it at home,
search up Moses fleetwood Walker. He was the first, like
a first African American to play in the major leagues.
But I would argue that if you don't have the
Denver Post Tournament, and if you don't have the integration

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happen in that tournament in nineteen thirty four, you probably
won't be able to see Jackie Robinson play in nineteen
forty seven.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
So because played the groundwark, how did it segregate? Again,
what happened there? Obviously don't know enough about baseball people
understand how these things happened.

Speaker 7 (46:25):
You know, collusion is a word that we could use,
and there's a certain word that was used, as you
know in the South. But it was to get them
individuals out of here. The owners came together and said
we do not want these individuals played in our sport
long and short, and so that you had decades where
literally you didn't have African Americans place.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
But what happened from there what they couldn't play in
the major leagues.

Speaker 7 (46:48):
But in nineteen twenty you have Rube Foster who said, hey,
let's go and start up our own league.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
And that's where you developed with the negro Leagues.

Speaker 7 (46:54):
And without the negro Leagues, you don't have night baseball,
you don't have hidden runs.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
There's so many.

Speaker 7 (46:59):
Different things that we have because of the negro Leagues
that have now come to the game that we know
love today in baseball.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Well, I got to tell you, the whole concept of
the negro Leagues is fascinating to me in terms of
the statistics in the negro Leagues versus the statistics of.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
The major leagues at that time.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
And when you look at some of the athletes that
played in the negro leagues and the kind of numbers
that they put up, whether it's just a batting average
that's insane, or or you know pitchers that pitched multiple,
you know, complete games on a regular basis, that kind
of stuff. It always aggravates me when people sort of
downplay that right because the assumption is, well, they weren't
as good as the white athletes, and I'm like that

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they had nothing.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Skill had nothing to do with it exactly.

Speaker 7 (47:39):
It was just location, it was proximity. It was I
couldn't play in the same league because owners literally barred
me from being able to play, So I'm going to
play in my own league. And oh, by the way,
in media respect, you could say it was even tougher
to play the negro leagues than to play in the
major leagues, whether it's because of you know, different circumstances
that could have been around.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
But at the same time, you had so many wonderful names.

Speaker 7 (48:01):
Satchel Paige played there, right, wonderful pitcher also pitched here
for a little bit too, for the Denver Bears had
an appearance around, so it's pretty cool to see.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Him in Denver for a bit. But you also have
Josh Gibson, that.

Speaker 7 (48:12):
Amazing, amazing hitch hitter who was a catcher, Oscar Charleston,
the names go on and on and on and oh,
by the way, and all those different names. You have
a seventeen year old who came from the Male high
city in five Points.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Who was able to play Bulbs Anderson.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Have you always been are you a baseball fan. Has
this turned you into more of a baseball fan or
this is something you already love.

Speaker 7 (48:31):
I've always been a fan of sports since I was
six years old. I knew that I wanted to be
a part of sports, that I wanted to make an impact,
and so to be able to have something like this
and to be a part of something like this is
truly a blessing. And you know, I work right now
as a reporter and anchor at CBS Colorado, but I
know for me that this is what I want to
really do.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
This is what I want to be a part of
for the rest of my career.

Speaker 7 (48:53):
Is to be able to tell stories of people overcoming
a huge circumstances, not just the box scores or sports,
but also to be able to tell our story. Again,
it's not just an African American story. It is all
of our stories and it's one that comes together. So
that's what I want to be a part of for
the rest of my career.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
I love. You know, football has a rich history, but
it's a lot shorter than baseball. Yeah, and Basketball's is
even shorter when you get right down to it. So
I feel like baseball would do well and I was
talking to Justin Off the Air about my favorite segment
in the Rockies pregame show, Jesse Thomas's he used to
be Pioneers of the game.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
I don't know what it's called now.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
I love that segment because it's all the history of
baseball and these funny names and the you know, the
cool stuff that happened or the crazy stories from back
in the day. And I think that baseball, just from
a marketing perspective, would do well to lean into all
of this, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Like, yes, they would do well.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
To bring more of this kind of conversation and talk
about this seventeen year old who you know went home
at twenty.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Why did he quit? Did he just go home because
he was sick? And home sick was just ill.

Speaker 7 (49:57):
Some people didn't know why to thought maybe it could
have been a virus, anything like that, and so you know,
he went home. But you think about it if I'm seventeen,
and I understand it could be a different day, but
there's some things that still remain the same. Once you
leave home as a teenager. Yeah, you come back in
an offseason, but once you leave home. And then after
his second season playing for the Kansas City Monarchs, and
again we're talking about Theodore Bubbles Anderson. After his second season,

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he followed his manager that he was with with the Monarchs,
so he followed him to Birmingham to play with the
Bernie Black Barns. Now here's the crazy part about it.
His manager left Birmingham after four games. So imagine being
nineteen eighteen, nineteen years old, you follow a person that
you trust, and again it's not written specifically, right, but

(50:40):
you start to kind of put the pieces together and
you say, Okay, now you're leaving this individual in a
foreign land. He's as he's probably ever been in his life. Yeah,
and say, oh, by the way, play baseball. So it
makes sense that he played with the Birmingham Black Bearons
and then left from there and played for the Washington
Potomacs that same season and then finished up with the
Indian Apple ABC's And then you're sick, also, sick, can

(51:03):
come home gohe.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
I mean, just the things you know, we and this
is going to sound like a big fact criticism, but
it's really not, because I think it's probably better that
we allow people to mature a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
But the things that teenagers.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Did and were capable of back in the day when
their life expectancy was fifty five sixty years. It's like
when you're only gonna live so long. Now we have
the luxury of a longer view. But it's always fascinating
to me to think about the stories that you just
talked about, because when we lived in Fort Myers, there's
a minor league baseball franchise down there for the Minnesota Twins,

(51:39):
and I met all of these retired folks and they
basically like took these young minor league baseball players in
and they lived like some of them lived.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
With these older folks.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
And I was talking to one of the women about
it one day and I said, how did this even
become a thing? She said, My husband and I were
sitting in the stadium watching these boys that looked like
they were twelve years old trot out onto the field,
and we thought, where are they living. They cannot be
living in an apartment by themselves, because some of them
have literally just graduated out of high school. Yes, and
they're making no money, by the way, they're making like

(52:13):
twenty grand a year playing baseball in the minor minor leagues.
And so she and it was already an existing thing.
But She's like, we signed up right away. And I
just think maybe Bubbles had somebody that did that for him.

Speaker 7 (52:25):
He did, you know what I mean, he did, so
the older players were taking care of him. Yeah, that's
one of the things that they had. And so I
talked to Bob Kendrick, who is the president of the
National League of the Negro Leagues, and he tells me
about that, how, hey, they will actually take these younger
players in. And yes, they're all competing for spots, right,
we're all competing for a paycheck, but they would be
the caretakers of these individuals, these young men and make

(52:45):
sure that they are okay, you know, make sure they
knew how to talk to a lady right, make sure
they knew how to do a little bit of everything right, so.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
They knew how to sit at the table right, yeah,
you know.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (52:54):
And the way that I equate it with teenagers and
with you know, young folks today is that when we
we do every number that we needed to know correct
bye bye byer. I mean I can think about my
home number right now.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
I know my home number, my best friend's number, my
grandma's number.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
One let's tell you this. I couldn't tell you my
dad's number right now. I have to look on my phone.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
I could old. Yeah, this gets my mom's fault, though
she moved anyway. Justin Adams is our guest. You can
see him on CBS Colorado, CBS four, so many different places,
in so many different ways. This is a fascinating story,
and good for you. Your passion for this just comes flying
out of here. So I look forward to seeing the
next story that you put together on this and continue

(53:33):
the conversation about this important part of our history because
I love baseball and I want to make other people
love it too. If that sounds weird, you.

Speaker 7 (53:43):
Know, it's the passion that comes from you, and you
know what, other people catch that passion as well, just
like I did with Bubbles Anderson.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
All right, Justin, thanks for coming in, man. We will
see you again soon.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Okay. So I saw this video this morning, and.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
I don't I mean, I watched videos online with some regularity,
but there's very rarely that one sticks with me, you know,
and this one stuck with me. It's a minute and
a half, not even a minute and half. Let me
have my audio, real quick sach. I put it on
the blog today, but I want to play it. It's
a minute long, and it's an interview with a one
hundred and five year old woman, and I just want

(54:31):
you to listen to this part.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
When you were growing up, what was your biggest dream?

Speaker 1 (54:34):
I want you to be a thing though, but of
course nothing, nothing came in it.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
What did you end up doing in life?

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Get married and had a baby right away?

Speaker 4 (54:43):
I got married, I was nineteen, I was twenty, I
had a baby.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Do you regret not having gone for that?

Speaker 10 (54:49):
It's Timetaba was a finish could have what a shuit
of tova?

Speaker 7 (54:55):
What about someone who's not one hundred and five, maybe
they're fifty five, forty five.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
I'm when you're fifty five, walk down and ready.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
You just still got your.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Whole life ahead of you.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
That part, Oh, you're fifty five, you still got your
whole life ahead of you. And you know I'm not
to start in fifty six and I have to have surgery.
So I'm like having this whole mortality not mortality crisis,
not like not existential crisis. But you do start to
think once you at fifty, life just looks differently. You

(55:25):
look at things, you realize that you're on the downslope. Now,
the downslope could be a very long downslope. I'm not
It's not like I've stopped buying green bananas, you know
what I mean. But you do start thinking about that
kind of stuff. I just had a really serious conversation
the other night with my good friend Michelle about like
what I wanted my retirement to look like. Now, Zach,
how old are you?

Speaker 3 (55:47):
So you're thinking about how am I saving for retirement?

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Right now? I'm guessing like, yeah, so here's the thing.
Save a little bit of every paycheck. Just do it,
don't even just do it and start now, trust me
on this.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Start now.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
We'll come back to that later anyway. But now I'm
thinking about not just oh the money part of it.
That you start to think like what do I want
that to actually look like? How do I want to
live that part of my life? Right? And that's a
whole different set of stressors, like just trying to figure
out what to do. And at this stage in the game,
I have so many friends that are twenty five, you know,

(56:25):
thirty years older than I am. Because I've always had
a wide range in age when it comes to my friends.
I have friends that are thirty, I have friends that
are eighty five, and I genuinely mean friends. So you
see the friends that are older, and you see what
some of them have gone through, and you see kind
of people do things like they retire and they don't
do anything, and you think, well, that's not what I'm
going to do. But you do kind of feel not

(56:48):
that your life is over, but you do sort of
look at it as why would I start a new thing?

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Well, you know it's too late to do that.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Those things start to creep in, and then this one
hundred and five year old woman is like, you got
your whole life ahead of you at fifty five, and
that was what I needed today. It was almost like
the universe God said, do you know what Mandy needs.
She needs a little perspective because I remember when I
was in high school, I thought thirty six was old.
I remember a bunch of old cheerleaders coming back on

(57:17):
homecoming in my hometown and one of them was thirty six,
and she still fit into.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Her high school uniform. And I was like, what.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Is a thirty six year old person doing in a unify?

Speaker 3 (57:28):
I mean, I was just appalled because someone that old.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
And then I remember turning thirty six and remembering that,
and I was like, what.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
A jerk you were at seventeen? Come on, what a jerk.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
But sometimes it just takes that little shift of perspective
to go from a little bit of anxiety about what
do I want the next part to be? To excitement
about what do I want the next part to be?
And I'd much rather live in the second space than
the first space there, you know, it's interesting. It's just
sometimes I spend a lot of time thinking. People ask

(58:04):
why I drive in silence. This is the stuff I
think about while I'm driving. I think about these life
stages that you have, and how I look back at
my even my twenty five year old self, and I
don't recognize that person. That person is a part of
who I was, but they certainly do not exist anymore
in any remote similar way. It's fascinating, really, And then

(58:27):
I think, at some point I'm gonna be seventy five
and I'm gonna look back at fifty five and go,
do I even recognize that person?

Speaker 11 (58:33):
You know?

Speaker 1 (58:34):
I don't know. It's very interesting to think about stuff,
am I I mean, other people think about this stuff, right, Yes.

Speaker 6 (58:41):
Yeah, I mean differently, but that shifting perspectives. I mean
that the draft prospects or players I used to talk
about age being a concern, I'm getting closer and closer to.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
That afore mentioned age. So I'm feeling it myself.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Well, you know, you're still in the height of your
life and generally speaking, and you don't wake up with
just random pains yet and the things that come along
with getting older, and it just seems like.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
I think part of it for me specifically.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Is I have been in really, really, really good physical
health until five years ago, and then weird things started happening.
Nothing dramatic. I didn't get cancer, but I had to
have vocal court surgery. What is that? You know what?
Who saw that coming? And now I find out, Oh,
you're gonna have ans direct me what I'm healthy. And

(59:28):
then when you go and you get ready for surgery.
Oh oh so in my my surgical preer, they go
through every single illness everything I've ever been diagnosed with,
and it's this list and she starts reading so this diagnosis,
and I was like, well, God, when you put it
all together like that, I sound like I could barely
get out of bed. She goes, no, no, this is

(59:49):
like a full history of everything, and I, oh, I
don't know, just really it's weird. Getting older is weird,
not bad. I feel how much smarter now that I
was before. But yes to the sextory said you do
get tired at sixty five and really tired at age seventy.
My mom has said the same thing, but she's still

(01:00:09):
going strong at eighty one. So I have good genetics
for aging, and I will lean into that as well.
But hearing this lady, oh yeah, fifty five, you got
your whole life, Addie, I'm gonna hear that voice in
my head when I start to feel like I'm getting
too old. I mean, what was Georgia o'keef seventy when
she started painting? That's what I always think of. I've

(01:00:31):
gotten until seventy. Wait, hang on me, let me double
check that stat. How old was GEORGEA. Oh Keith when
she started painting? When she started painting?

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Boom?

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Oh well sorry, never mind, that's a bad example. Georgia
o'keef started painting very very young. So I have to
think of another example. Why did I look this up?
Just ruined an example? That I've been using for years
by finding out the facts, dang it. In any case,
people say, oh, let's see, Colonel Sanders didn't sell his

(01:01:11):
first KFC stuff until he was like seventy, so let
me I know that from being in Kentucky. I actually
made the mistake of asking about Colonel Sanders one time
when I worked on the radio in Louisville, Kentucky, and
I literally had three hours of phone calls of people
sharing stories of him being a horrible person. I mean

(01:01:32):
a really really horrible person, really horrible person. So it's
kind of funny anyway. But he was old when he
got KFC off the ground and all that. Because Grandma Moses,
thank you. That's who I'm trying to think of gran
And I'm not a huge fan.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Of her work.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Moses story.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Let's see here, she didn't start painting until she was
seventy eight, Zach, Grandma Moses, thank you, Texter for giving
me back something to aspire to. So I haven't told
I'm seventy eight to get cracking. But then maybe if
I wait until i'm eighty, maybe then I'll be somebody
else's Grandma Moses.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
We don't know all the more reason to procrastinate.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
No, no, no, this text for getting old isn't that bad.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
It's the aging part.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
This sucks.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
This show might be getting a little old. Peoplesh for me. Sorry,
started playing the tenor sacks at sixty. When I retired
five years ago. Practice every day, play a live a
few times per month was my retirement plan for thirty years.
That's what I'm talking about. That is the kind of
plan I'm looking for. There you go, As Phil Fish

(01:02:52):
Barney Miller Show said, I was young once, I wasn't
good at it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Yep, Mandy, these thoughts are cons Now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
My daughter's in college, my son middle school, and everything around.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Me seems to change.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
I'm in that stage of life where I get to say, man,
it's grown up around a lot here. I remember when
that was just a field. I'm right there with you, yep.
And every time I do that, I think to myself, yep,
year old was We moved towards the end of our

(01:03:31):
workday on a Friday. Bad news for those of you
who love Stephen Colbert, or I should say one of
you who No, I'm just kidding. Stephen Colbert actually one
of the highest ratest or highest rated late night talk shows.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Do you want to watch late night TV at all?

Speaker 7 (01:03:52):
That?

Speaker 6 (01:03:53):
I'll catch it on YouTube if there's an interview I'm
interested in for something.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
But that's about the extent.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
This is gonna sound like a really dumb question, and
I genuinely mean this. How do people stay up and
watch the late shows and have a normal job? Like,
aren't Is it just people that don't have a normal
job or because if you stay up and watch the
late shows and then go to bed and get up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
I don't know what time people get up for work?

Speaker 6 (01:04:18):
Time you if they have to live on the West
Coast or something, because yeah, here it airs early so late.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Oh no, I'm thinking East Coast time. It airs on
the East Coast very very late. Yeah, like two am
here at star late, it's still like midnight. So you're going,
so when are you gonna get up for work? When
do people get up for work? This sounds like such
an Even as I'm articulating this question, I know it
sounds like a dumb question. But I get up at
six every day. I'm like, there's nowhere I could stay
up that late. I go to bed by ten because

(01:04:48):
I get up at six and I'm not gonna sleep
for the full light hours anyway. But citing financial decisions,
CBS has pulled the plug on Stephen Colbert. Now, you guys,
let me just I tell.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
You something about media.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
And I know TV's different than radio, I get it,
But in radio, like if KOA decides that they don't
want me to have a show anymore, not only are
they likely not going to let me do any more shows,
they're gonna purp walk me out of the building with
all my no.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Well no, they'll send me my stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
You don't get a chance to go back on and
put your bosses on full blast, which is what Stephen
Colbert did a couple of days or weeks ago. I
don't remember. I don't pay attention, but apparently put Paramount
on full blast, the owner of CBS, which is the
network that he is appearing on until the end of
May of next year, and he put Paramount on full

(01:05:43):
blasts for settling with the Trump administration over the case
that he filed about deceptive editing in the Kamala Harris interview.
And I think actually Donald Trump was right. I think
they absolutely edited that to make her look better, and
the only mistake they made was showing us the original first.
So yeah, Mandy, the hardest part about getting older was having.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
To talk with my parents.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Talking to them about their wishes made it real that
time was passing by too quickly. I'm just gonna say this,
Whenever I try and talk to my oldest son about
stuff like he's you know, he's the executor of rating.
He has to know everything, he will literally put his
fingers in his ears and go la la la la,
la la la. And I keep telling him. The more
conversations we have now, the easier it will be later.

(01:06:31):
She bring everybody in, everybody in. Mandy Colbert spoke the
truth about what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
I'm just curious.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Mandy's seventy one here, started to learn the banjo five
years ago, got pretty good at it from Steve. Our
dream was to buy some property and rescue golden retrievers.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
We're doing it now. Good for you, this Texter.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
I started playing racketball of fifty, started working out at sixty.
I'm seventy three now and I'm just beginning to take
up golf. The more physical activity you do, the better
off you're the rest of your life is going to
be that sure, Mandy I'm just turned sixty seven and
I'm learning how pottery, how to do pottery, and how
to hand build. It's something I've always wanted to do

(01:07:18):
since high school.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
See, this is the kind of stuff I'm looking for.
You guys are making me feel good. And I'm not
even close to retirement, you guys, not even remotely.

Speaker 7 (01:07:25):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
I'll be here as long as they'll have me kind
of thing, you know, at least per I mean whatever,
It's fine, Mandy. I wake up at three forty five
to two hours of college, drive to work, start about seven,
put in eight hours, go home two more hours of college. Wow,
you have to be young. That is a young person
schedule right there, Mandy. Five or six hours of sleep

(01:07:47):
is plenty, especially on workdays. Do you not have a
job where you use your brain? Because if I'm going
on six hours of sleep five or six hours, that
nothing good is coming out of my pie hole. For
three hours on the radio. I can assure you of that.

(01:08:11):
The show coming up in about half an hour, my
friends from the Empire Lyric Players are going to come
class up the joint.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Do a little Gilbert and Sulla in for us.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Give you a little culture on a Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
But in the meantime, I have very bad news and
in what might be the most anti climactic death I
have heard in a very long time. Zach, how old
were you and the guy jumped from the edge of space?

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Thirteen?

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Okay, so I so, what gosh was that ten years?
I was here?

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Twenty twelve?

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
I think, yeah, I was here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
No it was. I don't know if it was, because
I remember it was twenty twelve. You're absolutely right, absolutely right.
So I wasn't here. I was in Louisville still, and
I could not stop watching that dude. He jumped from
the edge of space, and he took I don't even
remember how long.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
It felt like days, but it wasn't days.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
It was just a matter of minutes, and he successfully
jumped from the edge of space like free jump, like
just boom, and then he sailed safely to the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Well, now he's dead.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Austrey and extreme sports pioneer Felix Bombgartner has died because
of a paragliding accident. That is anti climactic. That's an
anti climactic death. If you're going to be the one
of the most famous daredevils in the world. You don't
want to go out like that in a paragliding accident.

Speaker 6 (01:09:33):
I'm on the other end of the spectrum. I feel like,
this is how you have to go out. Imagine he
died doing what he loved. You jumped from outer space
and you die of like heart disease. I feel like
that's that's that's.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Anti climactic for you. I just I feel like, you know,
I don't know, there's certain things that I want to
engage in because I'm afraid that somebody would be like, Wow,
that was a dumb way to die, Like jumping out
of an airplane. I don't feel any need to jump
out of a perfectly good airplane.

Speaker 7 (01:09:59):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
When I'm like eighty or ninety, heck, y'a'll do it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
I mean, if H. W. Bush can do it, I
can do it. Herbert Walker, he jumped out of an airplane.
I think when he was eighty. I feel like I
could do it then. But then if I'm eighty and
then I splat on the earth, It'd be like.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Well that sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
But she was eighty, you know, she'd be a good run,
a great news story exactly. So, Apparently he lost control
of his motorized paraglider while flying over Porto's Sante Alpi
though in Italy's Central Marche region. He fell to the
ground near the swimming pool of a hotel. Can you
even imagine.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
That'll ruin some vacations? Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Oh, wait a minute, zach Porto sand Alpitio's mayor, Massimiliano
Sharpelli said reports suggested he may have suffered a sudden
medical issue mid air.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
Maybe he had art attack. That would be with that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Anti climactic heart attack, but in a paraglider where he
then plunges to the earth. I don't know how you
feel about that. I know you willed it into being,
even though it was already in the story. I just
didn't see it earlier. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
October of twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Twelve, he jumped from a balloon twenty four miles above earth,
becoming the first skydiver to break the sound barrier, typically
measured at more than six hundred ninety miles per hour.
That's crazy, by the way, in Austria, I did not
know this about Felix Bompgardner. We did not get the
full story about this guy. His long career of daredevil

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jumps included skydiving across the English Channel and parachuting off
the Patronas towers in Malaysia in Austria. This is the
part I didn't know. He was also known for courting
controversy with views that included expressing support for a dictatorship
as a system of government. He was fined fifteen hundred
euros after he punched a great truck driver in the

(01:11:56):
face during a twenty ten altercation that broke out into
trap a gem near Salzburg.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Old Felix had a bit of a temper.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Seems seems like it.

Speaker 6 (01:12:06):
But to jump out an outer space you've got to
have a screw looser too, me, you really do.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
I think that's a great way to put it. A
screw loose. That's what we're looking. Well, now he's dead,
he won't have any more opportunities to be offensive or
do anything amazing. Also in this segment, I want to
make sure that we talked very quickly about a concerning
rise in gastrointestinal cancers in young people. I'm talking about

(01:12:32):
colon cancer, stomach cancer, and pancreatic cancer. Doctors are trying
to figure out why they are seeing these kinds of
cancer rise. So dramatically in young people, and they've now
discovered something profoundly disturbing that when a young person is
diagnosed with one of these gastrointestinal cancers, they tend to
be more aggressive and more deadly than someone who was

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diagnosed at an older age. And it's not just because
people under fifty are being diagnosed later in the process,
because doctors are not trained to look at someone who's
twenty five years old and think they might have colon cancer.
They just don't do that right. But it's actually very
very concerning. They've had a lot of speculation about why

(01:13:16):
this is, but there is no clear leading theory. Some
of the questions that have popped up are the fact
that a disproportionate number of these cases of cancer are.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
Among Black and Hispanic people.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Pancreatic cancer, which of course is one of the deadliest
forms of cancer, are especially prevalent in the black and
Hispanic young people that are getting these diseases. So they're
looking at colon cancer first, and doctors say, look, we
have a general idea. You know what's probably number one

(01:13:56):
in a lot of this obesity people under fifty are
also associated with lifestyle factors. Obesity lack of exercise, poor diet,
a lot of ultra processed foods, cigarette smoking, and alcohol consumption.
One study included in the review found that women who
consume more sugar sweetened beverages during adolescents had a higher

(01:14:19):
risk of developing early onset colon cancer. But there's no
clear association here. I want to be clear about that.
They're really struggling to figure this out. But can we
all just finally decide that we need to eat real food.
We don't need to eat as much sugar. We just
need to eat better and then move our bodies.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Just move your bodies.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
People.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Exercises turning out to be the magic, you know, the
magic wand for so many diseases.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
And here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
It's never too late to start exercising. I watched a
video the other day of a woman who started walking.
She started rocking, right, rocking with like a ten pound
weight on her shoulders, and she did that. She started
when she was eighty one, and within like three or
four weeks she could walk without her walker.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
It's never too late. It's never unless you're dead. And
then yes, it is too late to talk about this
story because I think it's super interesting how gen Z
seems to believe that none of us before them knew

(01:15:32):
anything and did anything right, and then they rediscover what
those of us before them have done previously, and then
they pretend they invented it by giving it a cool
name and putting it on social media. What am I
talking about? I'm talking about the princess treatment.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Have you heard about this, Zach Yep, I'm familiar.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
The princess treatment goes like this, guys. When you treat
your woman with respect and care and love and do
things for her, like in her car door for you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
If she needs her help, you help her.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Maybe you order for her at a restaurant because she's
told you what you want, and then you place the
order for her. All those things that we used to
call chivalry, they're now calling the princess treatment. And now
we have headlines like this, can the princess treatment go
to fall? First of all, we have we have got

(01:16:28):
to stop women. We have got to stop with this
nonsense of trying to label everything. You know. I don't know.
I grew up. When I grew up in the seventies,
we were all in the We're all the same, We're
a great melting pot. You know, there's no differences inside,
just like we're all the same inside and out. That
was like the thing we had hammered into our head,
and now it's like, what label do I need to

(01:16:48):
put on?

Speaker 7 (01:16:49):
You?

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
Listen to this. This is from a column on the
Free Press. For the uninitiated. Princess treatment is a dating
strategy that anyone born four nineteen ninety six would recognize
as a combination of traditional courtship and basic good manners,
the kind of things a dad would remind his teenage
son to do as he prepares for a date. Open
the door for her, bring flowers, pay for dinner, give

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her your coat if she's cold. Online zoomers have rebranded
these mundane acts of chivalry as princess treatment, with women
who've successfully refashioned themselves into dating royalty making videos to
show off their spoils, gifts, flowers, love notes, and so on,
and to instruct other women how they too can either

(01:17:36):
land a chivalrous fellow of their own or train an
existing boyfriend to be a bit more princely. Let me
just say this to women who think they are going
to quote train a man, what you're doing is training
him for his next girlfriend, okay, because you will get

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tired of training him, and he will get tired of
being trained, and then he will take all the new
found skills onto someone else. That's just the facts.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
I mean, you could delude yourself, but that's the facts.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
That's how it works.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
But nonetheless, women have created the environment where for years
men have been afraid to open the door for someone
in the fear that one of those people would be
a feminist who would turn around and screech like a
bat out of hell at them for having the nerve
to assume that they cannot open their own damn door.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
I mean, that's what we've done.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
So now when a man who's a man and doesn't
care if some shrieking bat screams at him on occasion
and decide to be polite and opens the door for everyone,
it's now special. I one of the things I love
about my husband is that man.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
That man adores me even when.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
I'm being a pain in the butt, even when I'm
not being particularly cuddly.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
You know, you can ask him.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Some days I'll just go I feel like a cactus today,
Like I don't talk to me. I just feel like
a cactus, and it's very rare. I'm very rarely, really
really grumpy. Generally speaking, I'm a very upbeat person. I
just am. It's my personality. But on occasion, I'm like,
you know what, and he still adores me, and he

(01:19:17):
shows me he adores me in the ways that are
important to me. And I'm not like a big flowers person.
That's not, you know, for me, it's like, oh, you
picked up my prescription, my dry cleaning. Thank you, thank
you so much that I don't have to stop the
grocery store today. Thank you. You know, we all should
know those things. But the fact that this is now
a thing, and that some people are saying it's bad guys,

(01:19:40):
stop listening to women who read women's magazines, Okay, just
stop ignore them, because what's happening. And I think this
is happening a lot with younger women. I think that
a lot of younger women have gone out with the
guys who were like liberated feminists, guys you were like, let.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
Me ask you consent before I hold your hand.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
And you know what, they don't like it because when
you get right down to it, there is a biological
need that women have to be protected. So they can
then raise their offspring. And I don't care if you
have offspring or not, that need is still in there.
You may be absolutely, one hundred percent perfectly capable. As
a matter of fact, you guys, I can assure you

(01:20:24):
I can pick up my dry cleaning. I can pick
up my own prescription one hundred percent of the time,
but knowing that I don't have to. And then I
have a man who just wants to make my life easier.
If that's the princess treatment, then call me Princess many
from now on, because that is what I want out
of life, and I think that is what a lot
of women want out of a life, just like men

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want women who think they're amazing. You know, everybody wants
to be adored. Everybody wants someone who thinks that you
are awesome. And trust me, even if you're married to
someone who's driving you crazy at the moment, there are
things about them that you know are awesome. Focus on
those instead of the things that aren't. It's amazing what

(01:21:04):
that can do for your perspective short term, long term.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
Always focus on the positive.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
I mean, don't ignore things like I think I'm married
to an axe murderer. I'm not saying that, but focusing
on the good. His father Mike always says, you find
what you seek, and if you seek everything wrong, that
is exactly what you're gonna find. When we get back.
You are in the lucky you are. You are lucky
in the husband gene Pool, well, I would say yes,

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but he's also a giant pain in my kazoo a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
But again, I focus on the positive.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
Anyway, when we get back, my friends from the Empire
Lyric Players are coming in. Get ready to have your
mind expanded with beautiful music, and we're gonna have a
little culture with Gilbert and Sullivan right after this polarizing

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segments of the year. But I love it so much
and I'm trying to culture you people up. Many of
you know from prior visits about the Empire Lyric Players.
They build themselves as Denver's premiere Gilbert and Sullivan Society.
I'm not sure how many other Gilbert and Sullivan societies
there are in Denver, but I like the marketing. Sounds big,
sounds cool, And now they have joined me in the

(01:22:22):
studio to talk about their upcoming production of Vimicado in Space,
which is cool.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
It even has like.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
The dog in space in big capital letters. Now, who's speaking?
Is Matthew? Are you in charge?

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
I will? I will start. My name is A. J. Wils.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
That's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
If you guys have been here enough now you know
I'm gonna get your names wrong. I have all written
down on a piece of paper and I literally looked
at it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
And then called you the wrong name.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
That's all right, we're here. My apologies. Well thanks for
having us, Mandy.

Speaker 12 (01:22:53):
I'm My name is aj As I said, I'm the
music director. I'm playing Pooba in this production as well,
and I have a lot of other things that I've done,
including I was one of the people who was in
charge of rewriting the script for this special intergalactic presentation.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Well, let's talk about this first of all. For people
who don't know about Gilbert and Sullivan, let's start with that. Sure,
why do we have a Gilbert and Sullivan Society? The
premiere one?

Speaker 12 (01:23:17):
So American musical theater really has its roots in a
number of different art forms. Vaudeville is kind of the
original American sort of light entertainment, but we got opera
from Europe as well. We didn't as Americans tend to
like the big, heavy, two yeah, foreign language operas, the
German Ladies and the metal bras.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
None of that nonsense.

Speaker 12 (01:23:40):
We liked light and comedic fare, and there were British
composers and American composers who were writing these kinds of
light opera. Gilbert and Sullivan were by far the most
successful and most famous pair who are writing this in
the sort of latter half of the eighteen hundreds they
have I believe thirteen operettas published, of varying levels of fame.

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Mikado and Pirates of Penzance and HMS Pinafore.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Are the three that people would have heard of before.

Speaker 12 (01:24:08):
Mikado is I think by far their best, and it
was definitely the most popular in their lifetime.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Well, let me read the description from the Empire Lyric
Players page about the.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Mikado in Space.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
Starcross lovers, pompous noblemen, schoolgirls, and a powerful intercalactic emperor
collide on the planet of Titipu, where it's learning is
punishable by death. The Mikado in Space is an out
of this world spin on a fan favorite that combines
gorgeous melody, wit and silliness into a family friendly show
accompanied by a live orchestra of the cast and chorus

(01:24:40):
of aliens with improbable human like foibles will take you
where no one has gone before.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
And that certainly sounds fun.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
You know, very much.

Speaker 12 (01:24:50):
So yeah, So what is the actual story about, Well,
it's complicated. All of their stories are convoluted, essentially. You
mentioned that it all starts with a law that bans flirting.
The Mikado is sort of this overlord, and obviously the
original setting was Japan. Mikado is a word that comes
from Japanese. It's sort of a dated word now, but

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he is prone to over legislating of tiny problems, and
so he has decreed that anybody who flirts outside of wedlock.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Is put to death.

Speaker 12 (01:25:22):
And the people of planet Titipoo rather like their flirting,
so they decide that instead of letting people be beheaded
for this crime, they're just going to take the next
person on death row, an unfortunate gentleman named.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Cocou, sort of the star of the show. They're going to.

Speaker 12 (01:25:37):
Put him in the role of the Lord High Executioner,
the person who is judge and executioner and responsible for
carrying out these beheadings, and since it would be impossible,
not to say illegal, for him to behead.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Himself, sure, he accepts the position. He accepts the position.

Speaker 12 (01:25:52):
The beheadings cease, but he is engaged to a young
lady named Yum Yum, who we also have in the
studio with us today. But unfortunately she has also caught
the eye of a young prince who is the son
of the Mikado who comes to town in disguise. He's
fleeing his father's courts and an older, an older, powerful
woman named Katashaw who has decided that she's going to

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marry him. He wasn't into that, so he fled the courts,
fell in love with Yum Yum, and then is trying
to sort of sneak her away from the new Lord
High Executioner while the the legal troubles that the town
is trying to get itself out of sort of unravel
around them.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
You know, all of Gilbert and Sullivan's operetta is And
what's the difference between an operetta and an opera.

Speaker 12 (01:26:37):
Operetta has dialogue and is almost exclusively comedic, and is
usually in the vernacular the language of the people who
are writing it. And the people who will be listening
to it, whereas if you go to grand opera, it's
going to be an Italian or German.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
As you mentioned, I.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Really want to just sit here in pepper aj with
questions because I don't think I can stump him.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
I don't think there's a question I can ask.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
I have a degree in this?

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Okay? Good? They don't stop because you know I but
you do your knowledge that is amazing. The reason I
asked that question was a lot of these operettas were
written in very similarly to the way Shakespeare wrote his plays.
They were a big sum in the eye of the
aristocracy of the upper classes. I mean, they were very

(01:27:17):
much kind of a mockery of that. Who does the
makata representing this?

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Well, it's all.

Speaker 12 (01:27:23):
They're all sort of broadly or specifically aimed at the
flaws of Victorian society as Gilbert, who as the librettist,
saw them. So the Mikado obviously takes aim at a
lot of political mores of the time. Victorian era was
very sort of stifles and ritive. Yeah, not liberated in

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the way that we think in terms of things like
flirting in marriage and those sorts of practices, So he's
taking aim at all of these sort of politicians who
are are prone to legislating their morality as well as
legislating tiny elements of daily life that you know are
beyond their purview. The list song from the Mikado is

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a very famous aria that Coco sings, which almost always
includes a list at the end of and here's all
these politicians that we could put on our beheading list
as well and nobody would miss them. Is a very
popular thing to be a change.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
This sounds very familiar to things that I've heard as
of Wait, okay, we've got Shana, Jory, Sarah Armando, and
we've got Matt on the piano and aj what are
you guys going to sing for me?

Speaker 12 (01:28:29):
We're going to start with a really famous tune from
the show, which is a trio for the gals.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
These three are playing sisters.

Speaker 12 (01:28:36):
Jory plays Yum yum, Sarah plays pity sing, and Shena
plays Pipo.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
And yes, the names are all nonsense.

Speaker 12 (01:28:45):
Syllables that are sort of pseudo Japanese that we kept
for the sake of righting.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Yeah, they're I mean.

Speaker 12 (01:28:52):
The show has been removed from its Japanese trappings for
obvious reasons. This song is the first introduction of the
three young ladies, one of whom is is the Prince's lover,
and they're going to sing about how they are done
with school now and they're happy about that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
It's called three little Maids from school.

Speaker 4 (01:29:08):
Oh got it?

Speaker 9 (01:29:19):
Three is a maid from school and be but o beefs.
The groom is girdishly, amazed, fool everything.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
So nobody's me for we care for none.

Speaker 13 (01:29:36):
My physical princes speaker, three little Amaze from school, and
Mary come.

Speaker 9 (01:29:47):
From the ladies seven everything Leary, three yettle maid from school.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
No school, little.

Speaker 13 (01:30:11):
From three little made ways.

Speaker 9 (01:30:17):
Very they say, from school, lady, come from the ladies very.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
That is fantastic, Thank you, Thank you. Now let me
ask a question of you, ladies, and any of you
can answer this. How hard is this music to sing
to clearly articulate any enunciate? Because I can see you
all working to make sure that the words come out.
And I think in a situation like this, in an
opera and operata you're telling the story as well.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
That's incredibly important.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
How would you just have to practice that speedy enunciation?

Speaker 11 (01:31:04):
It's a lot I also think we have a j
who calls us out if we don't kill it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
Oh yeah, in.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
The middle of us running through an act, she's like,
let's go. I mean, is that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
That's not necessarily just a feature of Gilbert and Sullivan.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
It's more pronounced, I think. Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:31:23):
The speed, Yeah, it's sort of a higher brow version
of English that you're going to use for us versus
like Jason Robert Brown or modern musical theater. It's going
to be a little more American English is just more
relaxed anyway, and these are from England to written by
British gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
Just the speed is actually quite remarkable that you guys
can clearly enunciate, and when I'm watching you sing, I
can see you clearly enunciating. What is your training, ladies,
because I mean, where did you How did you guys
come to the players?

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
Now, obviously I've spoken to what did you? Should like?

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
Og, I've been here from the very beginning, But but
how did you guys?

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
Where does your train? Where did you get into this?

Speaker 12 (01:32:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:32:01):
I went to CSU, but actually for music therapy with
you step up just a little bit wire talking, Sorry,
we'll do this again, Yeah, yeah, so I went to CSU,
but specifically went for music therapy, but then also a
vocal performance certificate and then just kind of fell into.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
GNS once I moved to Denver. Is that what you
just GNS?

Speaker 9 (01:32:19):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
The cool kids are like, it's just Gnso we just
call them Gilly and Sully. It's fine. Everybody knows what
we're talking about. How much you.

Speaker 5 (01:32:29):
I went to Metropolitan State University of Denver and I
studied musical theater there and I even did my internship
for my UH for my degree with the Empire Letric Players,
so I've been with them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
For a while.

Speaker 3 (01:32:42):
Excellent.

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
I found them because we did it.

Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
We did micado in college, so I was and then
they were doing it ten years ago and I was like.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
Oh cool, I'll audition for that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
Wait a minute, you're not old enough to have been
out of college for ten years like we did for you.
Keep drinking water and what I'm just making that happen.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
You look great?

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
How about you? I was a theater minor.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
About twenty five years ago.

Speaker 14 (01:33:11):
My major was French and I actually had a minor
in theater in math.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
So I just like to.

Speaker 14 (01:33:17):
You to cling around, Yeah, this is actually my first
experience with Gilbert and Sullivan, and yeah, the first couple
of rehearsals, I was intimidated because it was fast. It
was so many words, and I felt like I was
getting I was out of breath after like two verses.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
I couldn't bring you. It's not just about breath, but
also by the end of it, your face hurts just
from getting your your face to do in your mouth,
to do what it needs to do with that speed.
It's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
Really, it's a technically demanding art for it really is.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
And I don't know if I ever brought that up. Now, AJ,
how did you guys decide to put this in space?
I need to know. I love stuff like this, but
a lot of times sometimes it's a little too aggressive
and it doesn't it falls flat. But when I heard
that this was in space, I was like, I kind
of can feel like this would work.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
So who came up with that idea? Where did that
come from?

Speaker 12 (01:34:10):
It's I mean, it's been again, it's a ten year
process since probably since the last time that we did
Mikado that Jeff our director has been conceiving of his
version of how to do this, and he already had
it written up as a treatment when I joined the company,
which would have been four years ago, five years ago
for Pirates, because.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
I showed up and was like, hey, Pirates is cool.

Speaker 12 (01:34:32):
We should do Mikado immediately next year, And they don't
do that because it's the Big Three. You got to
kind of sprin out with the lesser known gems that
we also do. But but Jeff and I talked about it,
and he sent me his document which is basically just
like a two page.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Write up of what the world was going to look like.
The fact that.

Speaker 12 (01:34:52):
These aliens have these you know, precious stones, and the
that they're interacting with a lot and the the whole
idea with Mikado is you're satirizing known British politicians and
laws and actual people, and so you have to put
it in through the lens of the other right, and
they do this with all of their shows. Iolanthe is

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based around fairies, but it's a satire of Parliament. Nikado
is a satire of real British laws and people.

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
But let's put it through Japan so that it's sort of, you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
Know, reflecting our prisser there exactly.

Speaker 7 (01:35:29):
So as long as you have an other to put
Makado through. It doesn't really matter what that other is
because the characters in the situations are so universal.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
I'm guessing you've never used these costumes before that you're
going to be using for the show.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
I'm guessing this is a whole new world when.

Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
It comes to set pieces and things of that nature.

Speaker 12 (01:35:46):
There are elements that will remind you of Victorian costuming and.

Speaker 7 (01:35:51):
Of other shows, but there's a lot of new that's
going into the show, which has been what's really exciting
about it for all of us. I think we're all
sort of involved in the technical as well here and there,
but there's a lot of things we've never done before.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Well, let's do one more song and wrap things up.
By the way I put everything on the blog, you
can buy tickets. The performances are July twenty fifth, the
twenty sixth, and twenty seventh at the Elaine Wolf Theater
on Dahlia and Leedsdale, that area right there.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
Go ahead find this at.

Speaker 3 (01:36:20):
Empire Lyric Players.

Speaker 1 (01:36:21):
You can get there from their website, but you can
also just get there.

Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
From my blog as well.

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
So what are we singing now?

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
So we'll continue with the next song in the show.

Speaker 12 (01:36:33):
The trio continues to sing, and they're now interacting with
my character Poopa, who's extremely wealthy, extremely haughty.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
They've been sort of disrespecting.

Speaker 12 (01:36:42):
Him by being young and in a way that is
offensive to those of us who are old and establishmentarian.
So this kind of an interactive trio slash duet for
those two characters. Plus Armando's here with us as well.
He's singing. The role of pitch Push is of course
you know another another another noble alien lord.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Here we go, so please treat.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
If we have in you cat, we shall not get.

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
To by and by you know, pos must happen. Sings
no pod and.

Speaker 9 (01:37:28):
No, don't think God's happy spring be hard and us
be hard.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
And if we're inclined to dance and sing.

Speaker 4 (01:37:36):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
Hard no.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
I think you ought to recollect.

Speaker 12 (01:38:11):
You cannot show too much respect towards the highly titled fe.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
But nobody does so much, should you. That's you, that's
I should have its fling. It's hard and us it's
hard and are too.

Speaker 7 (01:38:22):
And if we cling so pard and us so hard
and us, if we decline to dance and trying.

Speaker 10 (01:39:02):
Lovely, lovely, that's the empire lyric players and you guys
are so good and we'll see you again next year.
For whatever you're putting together, I want to make sure
we see a big thank you to Shana Jory, Sarah Armando,
Matt the piano man, and aj the musical director of
the Empire Lyric Players.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
You can see them the twenty fifth, the twenty sixth,
and the twenty seventh. I put a link on the
blog today to find those tickets.

Speaker 4 (01:39:25):
And now I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
Gonna have Rob Dulson. Does anybody want to play of
the Day