July 30, 2024 • 41 mins
Out of all the rookie quarterbacks, Colin thinks Caleb Williams will have the most productive season
He shares his thoughts on one former NFL general manager who regrets not drafting Buffalo's Josh Allen
Colin asks if Bill Belichick's inability to find a job is a result of him being too aloof to tolerate
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Thursday night game on Texans Bears, Caleb william says he
wants to play. They'll play a little maybe a couple snaps,
couple series, got to put him out there.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Okay, if you say so, Coach, well, I mean I
don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I mean I think for a rookie, you want some snaps,
even a series six, seven, eight, nine snaps. Maybe so.
Caleb Williams says he wants to play on Thursday game on,
So listen. Caleb Williams is going to be interesting because
he was the first NIL star quarterback in college making
four or five million bucks a year. Now year two later,
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there's a lot of people making a million. Defensive linemen
are making a million. High school kids are getting a
couple hundred and three or four hundred thousand dollars sometimes
not his seniors, but his juniors in high school, so
that things changed. But he was the first NISL superstar,
and he's confident, and he straddles the line between cocky
and confident, and that stuff can get you in real trouble,
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real fast. There was a little, uh, you saw a
little bit of it the other day when they asked
Caleb Williams about pressure, which is real and it existsists
in life, in sports and politics. But Caleb says, I
don't believe in it.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Sure isn't aware that I use in my vocabulary really
only when other people talk about it. And every time
that you'll hear me speak about pressure is that I
don't think that pressure is a thing. As long as
you prepare for the moment mentally and physically, get in here, work,
get after whether it's waiveroom film room, and then get
on the film and work, and then obviously game days,
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get out there and go be special.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, so maybe he's one of two or three athletes
all time that doesn't feel pressure, maybe, but it does exist.
So there are six quarterbacks drafted in the first round,
and if you look at history, one will be a star,
maybe one or two will be solid starters, and three
will be misses, maybe four. So let's go to the
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last decade where quarterback play has been much better at
the high school and college level, the coaching of quarterback play,
the cottage industry, the quarterback camps better than ever. And
despite that, in the last decade, we've had thirty two
first round quarterbacks, thirty two seven stars, less than a
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quarter and over half. Seventeen I would call missus had
about six solid starters. Some years three drafted, all misses,
ugly misses over half. So Caleb Williams, to me, is
the only quarterback in this draft. Because I said this yesterday,
Being a quarterback in the NFL is very situational, unless
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maybe you're John Elway or Andrew Luck. Outside of that,
who do you get as coach? Who's the owner, what's
the roster, what's the old line, like, what's the division?
But I do think Caleb Williams is the only quarterback
in this draft that, regardless of situation, will be productive. Now,
I may not win a lot, he may never get
the right coach. I mean, Justin Herbert super productive, yet
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to have the right coach until we think Jim Harbaugh.
So I think the floor for Caleb Williams, the floor
is like Kyler Murray, where he's obviously talented, he throws
a beautiful ball, will win, probably shows up in a
playoff or two, gets paid, but doesn't win enough. Right
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like may have some Mason Mahomes tendencies, they just doesn't
win enough. That's Herbert so far, That's Trevor Lawrence so far.
And I think he's a better prospect than both. But
the rest of the quarterbacks, I'll just say it right now,
let's start with a Drake may. I think there's a
real chance it doesn't work. Bad footwork, not refined, defensive coach,
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bad roster, So he's not gonna get off to a
good start regardless if he succeeds. I think there's a
real possibility he could really, really struggle. If I had
to guess one guy who doesn't make it, this would
probably be my best guess. Michael Pennix like him, but
he's a pocket quarterback and there's not a lot of
those in the league. He's had major injuries, he's a lefty.
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Atlanta doesn't have a history of winning. In fact, they
just I saw this morning they've sold out for the
first time in twenty years. They've sold out their season tickets.
He also has to get through the Kirk Cousins roadblock
for a couple of years. How does that play psychologically
with him? With his confidence. There's Bo Nicks, who I like,
but size, kind of small, arm, kind of average. Now
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we got Sean payton, O line pretty darn good, nice weapons,
Mims Franklin, Courtland Sutton. But he's a small quarterback, doesn't
push the ball down the field a lot. And what
if after three or four years they're just like he's
kind of average. It's possible. JJ McCarthy, I didn't really
buy into him, has a lot of confidence. But JJ McCarthy,
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the quarterback from Michigan, what if he is just a
product of Michigan system and Jim Harbaugh. I mean they
won a national championship. In one game, he didn't throw
a pass in the second half. Again, they tell me
he's a certain height, but he always looks a tad
small and a tad slight to me, I didn't see
all these NFL gms. Even Minnesota only gave up a
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couple of mid to late round picks to get him.
What if he's just more of a product of Michigan.
We've seen that before, guy who's great in college with
a great coach and great personnel. And then there's Jaden Daniels.
I think he's gonna hit, but he is slight. Washington
has knew everything. Owner, GM coach coordinator. What if they
can't protect him with the offensive line, that's certainly possible.
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So my gut is Caleb Williams is the one that
will be productive and you will go wow a lot
and doesn't win. Bad owners, really bad owners, kind of
a political organization. Defensive head coach on the hot seat
in the first month the division. It's a lot of shootouts.
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Minnesota's offense, Green Bay's offense, Detroit offense. You gotta win
by scoring. He may not win much. He may be
on his second coach by next year, and again it's
not the greatest weather. So that's kind of how I
look at all of it. It's very situational. My guess
is that Caleb Williams is talented enough, talented enough to
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at least be productive and jaw dropping as we head
into Thursday, hope to see him play and to go
on with that. General manager, former GM and quarterback legend
John Elway no longer running the Broncos, but by the way,
he won five straight AFC West titles and culminated it
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with a Super Bowl, so he was successful. But John
Elway was saying yesterday that his biggest regret was not
drafting Josh Allen out of Wyoming. Instead, they drafted Bradley Chubb,
an edge rusher. But I think it's interesting talking about
Caleb Williams because Josh Allen is really a reminder of
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how difficult it is. So you watch Josh Allen, now
the most gifted quarterback in the league. Mahomes wins more,
but Josh is bigger, stronger, and moves better. And I
watched him twice in college. He was awful against Oregon,
no touchdowns, a pick, went nine of twenty four. I
watched them against Iowa, two no touchdowns, two picks got
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blown out in both between the two teams, and they
weren't great teams necessarily. Iowa wasn't. He scored a field goal,
a field goal, a field goal, one touchdown. Now I
know it's wyoming. But Patrick Mahomes, who got you know,
some naysayers out of college, was wildly productive. Didn't win
a time, but he was in a much better conference.
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So Josh Allen got overlooked in high school, had to
go to a junior college, only had one small college
offer GM's whift on him, and he is now the
most talented quarterback in the NFL. And don't tell me
you knew he was going to be great. Nobody did.
In fact, his first year he was a mess. And
then he got Brian day ball. Slowly but surely, as
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he was running over linebackers and jumping over safeties, he
got more refined. But look at right now in the NFL,
Jordan Love went from awful to great in about a
three week stretch. Last year, Brock Purdy last guy drafted,
Kurt Warner, Hall of famer undrafted Aaron Rodgers. Josh Allen overlooked,
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had to go to junior colleges. Look at the four
best quarterbacks in fact today in the NFL. Mahomes couldn't
win in college. Josh Allen completely overlooked Lamar Jackson, that
guy should be a wide receiver, and Joe Burrow had
to transfer. Those are the four best quarterbacks in the league.
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And even though Herbert with Harbaugh is going to win,
most general managers and two that I know like Tua
more than justin Herbert, and Tua was almost a bust
with his first coach. So this stuff is so situational.
Ivan Jordan loved last year. Didn't see him for three years,
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awful for five weeks. Three weeks later, Oh my god,
we've got a star. Not even the Packers saw that coming.
So I think seventy five to eighty percent of this
stuff for quarterbacks is just situational. Who's your OC? I mean,
Aaron Rodgers may not succeed this year, and it won't
be all his fault. Is Robert Salah a good coach.
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Natt Hackett is an OC, impulsive owner, rebuilt offensive line.
So for the veterans, Tom Brady literally had to choose
where to go. Matt Stafford chooses where to go. Russell
Wilson could choose kind of where to go, and Brady's like, okay,
go to Tampa, but I need a right tackle, give
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me gronk Ab Lenny Fernett and okay, then I'll do it.
And even he chose the weakest division in football. So
Brady one of the smartest guys ever, and he could
choose kind of the league and target the league. He
wanted to go to Tampa because situationally they needed a
right tackle and a couple of his guys. So good
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luck to Caleb. But this there's nothing in sports that's
more of an inexact science than trying to figure out
the quarterback. And I can't wait until Thursday and the
help he plays. I think. I think, if you've got
a rookie quarterback of Michael Peni's a bone. Knicks got
to give him a couple series. Roll the dice. Not
many quarterbacks ever have been hurt in their rookie year
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in the exhibition season and their careers were over Roll
the dice for the young guys. J Mack coach k
is joining us in fifty minutes from now. I'm fired up.
I think, would you play Cad'd take Caleb two series.
I'm going to see him out there.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
You wouldn't answer me how the offensive line is health
wise heading into design.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
It's a young O line, so they'll probably play some
of their offensive linemen generally older offensive linemen.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
They're not going to play a lot five best starting
offensive linemen in any game in the preseason.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Aaron Rodgers, I would not play in the preseason, right.
I would not play Stafford in the preseason. I'm not
gonna play Burrow Lamar, Josh Mahomes. Those guys I won't play.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
But I think I got nothing to prove. We know
what those guys are.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, but I even think. I even think with a
Trevor Lawrence and a Herbert who need to kind of
pop this year, Kyler Murray, i'd play him a series.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Well, Herbert has all new receivers, so he definitely needs
to play a little bit.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, all right, coming up next, Aaron Rodgers had a
terrible day at practice. But instead of focusing on him,
why don't we talk about the real issue. And I'm
not even talking the offensive line either. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays and Noone Eastern
non a em Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one
and the iHeartRadio app Welcome Back. I tend to think
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if you know you're on the hot seat in your job,
whatever you do for a living, you're on the hot seat,
you'll go to work and do things differently. Coaches on
the hot seat will coach differently. Brandon Staley was supposed
to be mister risk taker and then in his last
eight or nine games for the Chargers stopped being a
risk taker. He went against everything he believed in. Why
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because his job was on the line, and they got
very passive and non aggressive because his job was on
the line. Robert SAWA's job is on the line. So
we talk a lot about the Jets, but just think
about this. How many coaches that made the playoffs last
year went into the season on the hot seat. Nick
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Siriani didn't, he'd he was coming off a Super Bowl.
He's on the hot seat. Now, how many coaches that
made the hot made the playoffs last year were on
the hot seat? So let's go AFC. John Harbaugh know McDermott, No,
they're giving him extensions. Andy Reid know Demko Ryans Stefanski
had been Coach of the Year I think twice now. McDaniels,
No Tomlin, they're never. I think he just got an
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extension too. Tomlin's Tomlin's underachieved in my opinion, hot seat
and Steelers coach. That don't go in the same sentence. Shanahan. No,
Mike McCarthy's been on a perpetual hot seat his entire career.
This is the first year. I think he's in trouble
with a bad September in early October. So I don't
think last year it was the hot seat it is today.
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Dan Campbell, no Sirianni had been to the Super Bowl McVeigh, mcfluor,
no luffluor, no Todd Bowles. I guess although it was
the first year for Tampa post Brady, so was it
a hot seat lukewarm? Maybe? But you know so there's
one of fourteen, so we can talk about Aaron Rodgers
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and the rebuilt offensive line is Robert Salah has got
a lot of things working against him. First of all,
the Jets have averaged the fewest points in the league
since he's been a had coach. He now has an
offensive line that's a little old and a little young,
very few Elito linemen in their prime and it's in
the middle of a rebuild. He's got an offensive coordinator
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like this won't add stress that he was going to
hire Arthur Smith to babysit in with play calling in
a division with Josh Allen and one of the smartest
offensive coaches in Mike McDaniel. I'll give you the two
Patriot wins, but we're talking a lot about Aaron Rodgers
in the rebuilt offensive line. Go look at the fourteen
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playoff teams last year. One coach and it was a
luke warm seat at best, Todd Bowles. And I think
when you go to work and you know you're in trouble,
Brandon Staley is a great example. You coach differently. You
coach thinking about the owner watching you. So yesterday Aaron
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had a terrible practice. The offense stunk. Alan was And
by the way, if Aaron struggles, he not taking the
blame from the ownership. And Aaron leads the NFL, he's
all for team passive, aggressive, point to others. So I
think the heat on Sola is a real thing, and
I think it changes the way coaches coach. Here's Alan Lazard.
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They're already talking up Aaron on yesterday's bad day.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
You're talking about one of the best, if not the
best quarterback of all time, and his standard and level
of play is something that a lot of guys haven't
even seen yet, even this organization. You know, they haven't
really been with him on a game day. He obviously
is expects the same standard that he holds himself to
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out of everyone else.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I don't know if he's maybe the best of all time,
but needless to say, we're going into a season where
we're told Aaron's great, meaning if they struggle, Aaron's not
going to get the heat. And I think there's no
question the number one hot seat in the league is
not Brian Dable because everybody in the room knows it's
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Daniel Jones. You watch Hard Knocks, HBO, Max, Joe, Shane,
the Marra's. I'm not really blaming Brian Dable. He's the
He's the north Star, the shining star, and a big mess.
The pressure is on Robert Salah. He is on the
league's hottest hot seat. J mack with the.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
News, No, No on the News, This is the herd
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Speaker 1 (17:28):
Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Colin has earned plenty of milestones during his NFL career,
already got two MVP awards, he's not thirty years old yet,
but can't get to a Super Bowl still elusive. So
he's entering his seventh season and says winning in February
is his one and only goal.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
That has been the first check bought from me. He says,
twenty eighteen.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
You know I said that April twenty six, whenever we were drafted,
whenever ill jacket, I said that, you know, and not
mid that. But you know this, this the high level this,
you know this game. You know we play, so you
got to go out and champion. That's what I want
to be label And as a champian, you know, not
just LVP here and there, like I want to be
a check I hope.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
So that's the standard of Baltimore with the Jets. It's
just get into the playoffs. The standard for Baltimore's championships.
It's a proud tradition, a well run, non dysfunctional organization.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
So we're going to continue to just give Lamar a
pass for his poor postseason performance.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
He's been criticized. Nobody's given him a pass. People are
criticizing him. He doesn't get a pass. Trevor Lawrence isn't
getting a pass.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Treyvor Lawrence gets a pass, for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I don't what's a pass?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Well, he hasn't done anything in a big spot in
his career yet, Trevor Lawrence not what.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
He had a great half against the Chargers in that
playoff comeback.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, and yet he's still get I mean, fifty five
million a year. You talk about him as like a
top ten ish quarterback five towns.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
No, Trevor Lawrence is ten to eleven. Lamar's top four.
You know, seventy eight to eighty percent of the season
is the regular season. This is not the NBA where
nobody watches it, or baseball where nobody cares. I mean
the trading deadline is players I've never heard of going
to teams I don't care about. This is the NFL,
where every game counts. It's professional college football where every
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Saturday count I'm.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Well aware I play a lot of fantasy football, a
lot of gambling, but I just go in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Okay, Yeah, that's Drock.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Party's been better in his postseason career than Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
And it's not particular.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Got him weaker. That helps. He's also got an offensive
genius at an offensive I thought I.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Thought Harball was one of the best coasts in the league.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
He is, He's four or five. He's up there.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Interesting. He just can't get over the hump.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Okay, I see it all right, Let's get to brock
Perty second story here. He is eligible for his big
extension next offseason.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Colin, this is going to be fascinating, listen, man.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
He's put up good numbers in his year and a half.
He had the one injury against the Eagles in the playoffs,
but he has seen play empty of quarterbacks get monster
contracts this year and says he's not focusing on what
may come to his bank account in the future.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
That's great for those guys, but you know, for for
me and in this team right now, man, we got
to focus on twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
And this season is so long, man. Then there's so
much stuff that you go through.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
So to get caught up in what the years can
look like down the road or anything like that, to me,
that's that's pretty nonsense. So you know, folks, in one
day at a time, I have to get better for
this team, and we all do here. So that's where
my focus is.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
At and all of our focus is at You know,
I really should like him because he always is humble.
I really, I don't know why I got to be nicer.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
He's a great spot on the podium. That's a guy's money.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
No, I mean he he. I think what happens is
you're so over the top with him that I have
to like pump the brakes and be the cooler in
Vegas at the poker table. But he is from at
the podium, decision making intelligence, humility, He's not real big
then have a big arm, you know. I think what
happens is you're so over the top you have him
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like as one of the top quarterbacks in the league
that I have to constantly pump the brakes. But it is.
There are a lot of things he does. You know,
he's got a little bit of dak where they don't
have to love the talent, but I love the intangibles.
His intangibles are off the board. They're great, they're out
to the moon. Intangibles. Intangibles matter.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I mean again, I know you love the big, strapping
dude with a massive arm.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
He throws a beautiful ball.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Those are that's what you value.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I value the numbers because the numbers don't lie, and
the numbers say rock Party in the last year and
a half has been an elite top five quarterback in
the league.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
And good story, there's no there's.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
No like this. Numbers do lie? Oh do they?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Where the numbers lying on rock Perty?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
The Dow Jones is at forty thousand, there's basically five
stocks carrying it for four years, and the video yeah
we got we had a couple. So the numbers lie.
But when you google Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, Tesla and na Video,
you know that they're carrying them. So the stock everybody
looks at now Jones, he goes, oh my god, it's
about six companies that are all trillion dollar companies. Meta.
So like numbers do lie, you have to contextualize all numbers,
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even our Dow Jones. You have to contextualize.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Okay, so content, where are the numbers lying on brock Perty?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Like, he doesn't make a lot of mistakes and he
had a terrible game against the Ravens and a high
profile spot cost him the MVP. Probably Okay, one regular
season game?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Whooped the damn Do ye think? Does it hurt?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And be honest, are you still paying that he came
back and beat your guy Jordan Love, and then came
back and beat your guy Jared gobb in the plaff.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
You know, I don't care about that kind of stuff. No,
it's just I think you'll see over time, this league
is situational, and he got the perfect situation. A plus coach,
a plus left tackle, best back since Walter Payton, great
tight end, a plus debo, a pariantas. So he got
like nine a pluses. He was basically given the keys
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to a Mercedes and told.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Her so it was Trey Lance and he couldn't do anything.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
No, No, Trey Lance was a bust. I'm not saying
he's a buss, but I'm saying, don't take that as
the example. A lot of guys gonna work here. If
you bet Trevor Lawrence in this thing a few years ago,
they got a trophy.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
A lot of guys could have worried. Just plug and
chug with Kyle Shanahan. There, I guess I'll wrap up
with this. My brock Purty love fest will end when
the contract discussions begin, because again brock Purty, and you
could see his contract on the screen. Nine hundred and
thirty four thousand, dollars is what he's averaging on that
rookie deal. He's a barler there it is. I would
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take his contract over any of those guys right there.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Any in the forties and fifties.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
It's just a.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Numbers game called yeah, but I would take the players over.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Him, not what the salary factor did.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
And the salary is factored in.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Now, if you say Brock is going to play for
forty five I don't think that's the worst thing in
the world.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
We know the CAP's going to continue to go up.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
How you start talking fifty five million year for rock
Party and you've lost me, But then again you lost
me with Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence kind of out
on those guys. Final story is the Atlanta Falcons. You
reference this earlier to kind of a surprise. They sold
out all their season tickets for twenty twenty four, first
time this happened in nearly two decades. Atlanta also has
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had a regular season ticket renewal rate, with over ninety
five percent of fans renewing in the first quarter.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
They have a waitless now for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Is this about Raheem Morris kirk cousins It ain't about Pennant.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Well, for let me defend what's going on. It's hard
for the Falcons. First of all, the Braves are wildly popular, Okay,
so a lot of people in sports in a town
will choose one season ticket. And also it's the SEC home,
So all Atlanta is is SEC grat. So if you're married,
Saturday is your day. You're staying home to watch the Falcons.
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But you're married, you're an SEC grat. Auburn Bama old miss.
The only way to make money is to get out
of those small towns to go to Atlanta. So go
to the airport in Atlanta. It's all SEC hats, that's
all it is. So those guys are Saturday stadium guys.
They're all flying or driving or they're going to a bar.
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So you can't generally, if you're in a relationship, you
can't tell your wife. Yeah, I work all week and
in the weekend I'll be with my buddies. So I
think it's hard in Atlanta to sell out because it's
the home of SEC football. Whereas the Indianapolis Colts. You know,
there's a lot of big ten fans there, but there
it's not a quick, little jaunt to get to Indianapolis,
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and so I've always kind of defended the Falcons on
it's hard to sell out their games. The Braves, God,
they've been huge since the seventies eighties, and it's hard.
Most people can't afford dual season.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Ticket to sell out eight games. Come on, well, what
are you talking about? How's that hard? The Braves have
what eighty one home games?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Again, goes back to my Saturday in the South is
bigger than Sunday in the South. Only place in the
country you can say that Saturday in the South is
bigger than Sunday. That's not true in the Northeast.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
When Matt Ryan took them within seconds of the Super
Bowl against Breaks, they have to be next.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Season, they didn't even sell out. Well that's sad.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Well that was a surprise.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
You have to.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Atlanta Hawks and Trey Young. Don't forget about those guests.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Well, they Celtic. It's it's a good NBA city. They
it may not love the Holi Factory, but it's a
good NBA city. It is. It's just they they they
are the Laker fans. Yeah, well, it's a lot of
that move down south that want the weather and the jobs,
but it's it's a good NBA city.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
So, by the way, have you have the Falcons in
the playoffs as one of them?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Oh, I think I think people are sleep I think
they're gonna win twelve thirteen games in that division. I
think that's the easiest schedule in the league. It's the
toughest part is weeks two and three. But again you're
talking about Kansas City had a Rashi Rice issue. They're
hosting Kansas that's a very winnable.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Game for that, I think I'm gonna take Pittsburgh if
it's two and a half or three.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Remember it started at three the line.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Falcons are favored by three, and then I think it
went down to two and a half. I think you
got to go Tomlin on the road in Week one
against the Falcons.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
He's probably the better bet.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Does Atlanta even have a home field advantage?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Like, well, not against the Steelers in that gan, I
don't think Sittsburgh travels right.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Hereritt fields Russell Wilson, Colin Cowherd a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I don't think it matters.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
But I mean, look at Week four on for Atlanta,
it is a lot of Saints, Tampa, Carolina Seattle, Tampa Saints,
Denver By Rader schedule is a nime and it gets
really weak towards the end. I mean toward the end.
You're facing Sam Darnold Gardner, Minshew Daniel Jones, rookie quarterback
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Bryce Young last five games. Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Aidan O'Connell is the leader in the clubhouse.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
For the Raiders. Is that true?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah, they love him. You talk about a pocket quarterback
ai aoc baby, that's his nickname.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
That's what they're calling God J Mack with the news.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
So, no sport in America over the last decade ten
to twelve years has improved like women's basketball. I'll be
completely honest. A decade ago, even when I lived in
Connecticut with Yukon women's basketball. Outside of Yukon, a lot
of women's basketball collegiately to me was unwatchable. Not enough finishers.
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Just okay, that's not what it is anymore. I'm watching
Team USA dismantle Japan. It used to be twelve years
ago Yukon would have six of the top eight college players,
six of eight it was a completely lopsided sport. Now
you have South Carolina in the South is a powerhouse,
Yukon in the Northeast is a powerhouse. Stanford in the
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West is a powerhouse. I think Baylor in the Plain
States in Texas is a powerhouse. Else it is much
more spread out. And I was watching Team USA dismantle
Japan yesterday, and women's basketball is good. Yukon's good, But
Yukon had a stretch and it wasn't that long ago.
Twenty fourteen to twenty seventeen. They won one hundred and
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eleven straight games and many of them by over forty
five points. So what you're watching is the most improved
sport over the last decade in America. But I still
think Caitlan Clark and Angel Reese should be on this team.
Of the six Olympic women's game so far, this team
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and this game against Japan had the lowest attendance, and
it would have had the highest attendance with Caitlin Clark
and Angel Reese. Now, I know Caitlan drives the numbers
more than Angel rees, but I've remarked before that it's
a bird magic situation where I think both exceeding succeeding
elevates both. This Olympics was never about winning the gold.
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For God's sakes, Japan's biggest player yesterday was six' one.
The games won't be close. This was never about the
women winning their eighth straight title. It was about eyeballs
and attention and people watching the game and the team
in record numbers. Again, this game was the lowest attended
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of all the Olympic women's games so far. With a
ten to fifteen year dynasty playing right, women's basketball has
gotten better. The WNBA is growing. I'll still argue they
shot an air ball not putting the two rookie stars
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on this team. This was an opportunity and the NBA
has been doing this for years or in this summer,
they send their stars overseas. They sell the game internationally
and could be China, it could be anywhere. They sell
some gear, some endorsements. They make stars of their players
when they go overseas. It's not about winning, it's about
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the salesmanship. That's why the late David Strn was such
a great commissioner. He made the names on the back
of the basketball jerseys as big as the names on
the front. Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese. Wasn't a selfish
move or undeserving. It was the right move and the
right time to do it. And they missed Mike Krzyzewski
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at the top of the hour and TUA with a
record contract that J McK and I just got hammered.
J Mack yesterday sent me a tweet. I was watching
the Olympics all day. I got a couple of tweets.
He sent me a very funny tweet where we're getting
savaged on the internet. And I'll address some of TUA next.
It's the Hurt. Be sure to catch live editions of
(31:58):
The Herd Weekdays and New not A em Pacific.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Hey, I'm Doug Gottlieb. The podcast is called All Ball.
We usually talk all basketball all the time, but it's
more about the stories about what made these people love
their sport and all the interesting interactions along the way.
We talked to coaches, we talked to players, We tell
you stories. You download it, you listen to it.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
I think you like it.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
Listen to All Ball with Doug Gottlieb on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Saturday.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
It's Baseball Night in America on Fox, Rising star Gunner
Henderson leave the Oriols against Jose Ramirez in The Guardians
where the Rays take on the Astros or Giant Threads,
and all begins Saturday at seven Eastern on Fox.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Check for the game in your area. So, Dolphin fans,
according to the interweb, I didn't see it. Jmax send
it to me. Were all worked up because, you know,
we said something that was completely true, which is Tua
has an injury history. He can't really play in cold weather,
and all the good teams in the AFC play in
cold weather, and the playoffs are always in January outdoors
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in the AFC. Shame on us for honesty. Sorry, our
fact's got in the way of your feelings. But Tua
is owning the fact that he's making big boy money
now and this changes everything.
Speaker 9 (33:23):
I'm the highest paid employee in this in this office,
Like I mean, I got to get my you know
whatever together. I got to get that right and get
our guys moving in the direction that we need to go,
you know, to be able to do those things.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Actually, Tua's always had his you know what together. He's smart,
he's professional, he's committed, he's a good guy. He says
the right stuff. That's not the issue. The issue is
he doesn't have a very good arm. He would be
much better served if he played in the NFC, where
the best teams are Detroit, a Dome, the Rams so far,
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San Francisco, temperate weather, Atlanta will win their division Dome Dallas.
He doesn't play in the NFC. He plays in the AFC,
with the best teams will probably be Baltimore, Buffalo, Cincinnati,
Kansas City, and quite possibly the New York Jets. All outdoors,
all cold. The average temperature in the last five AFC
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championships is thirty three degrees with wind. You saw the
game even with Tyreek Hill against Kansas City. He can't
throw the ball down the field in that kind of weather.
So what Miami and two a half to root for,
and it's a real thing, is the Chargers and the
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Houston Texans both potentially very good teams to win or
hope that they're a number one seat because at home
at Sofi Stadium in Houston, Miami can match the wits
with anybody I like. Their team. Average offensive line have
to stay healthy, pass rush is hit and miss. But
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the idea that anybody's. He is the only elite quarterback,
highly compensated quarterback in the NFL. Now that you have
to put an asterisk by his name, he's really good
if the weather conditions are right. That's not an opinion.
We went and looked this morning, including the playoffs. Tua
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is twenty seven and twelve in temperatures over fifty he's awful.
One in seven fifty degrees, another under And by the way,
not only is he awful, he's not an NFL quarterback.
He's not even a backup. His passer rating under fifty
degrees is seventy one. That's lower than Tim Tebow's nine
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touchdown twelve picks, fifty seven percent completion, one in seven,
high school in Hawaii, college in the South Miami. So
and it's cold, he's not even a backup. Those are
non NFL numbers. Those are significantly below a Gardner minshew.
So it's not nobody's taking shots at Tua. These are
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facts and numbers that he needs to be a number
one seed or get the Texans or the Chargers, two
teams with the kind of rosters in coaching that could
excel and potentially win a division by the way, if
you go look at Miami schedule, one of the other
things that works against them. That's why I don't have
him right now making the playoffs. If you look at
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the end of their season, go look week twelve on
in at Green Bay, San Francisco, at Cleveland, at New York.
You got three or four games at the end of
the season that are cold weather games. And by the way,
you do get a break. You don't have to face
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Buffalo until week nine, which is like the beginning I think,
and at the beginning of November about week nine, but
that'll be a cold game. So you start looking week
nine on, you know about four or five cold weather games,
and he just doesn't play well in those. That's just
it's not even an opinion, it's just the truth. So
I want to talk about Bill Belichick for a second.
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He no longer coaches the Patriots. He's going to be
a broadcaster and do some broadcasting stuff. But you know,
there was this level of outrage from a lot of
Belichick sycophants and Belichick former co workers. How could he
not get the Atlanta Falcons job. But he couldn't get
along with his owner Robert Kraft. The last decade he
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was there. Almost everybody gets along with Robert Kraft. Brady
and Robert Kraft, despite generational differences, are like best friends.
He can't get along with his mentor, Bill Parcells. He
didn't have dinner with Brady, who everybody gets along with Brady.
He couldn't have dinner with him in twenty years. And
(37:59):
reportedly he didn't call to congratulate one of his favorite players,
Girrod Mayo, forgetting the job. Probably, I'm guessing, didn't love
the fact that Gerard took the job. Probably Bill thought
he should be loyal to Bill. I'm guessing he can
be petty. But Gerrod Mayo, a classy guy, tried to
side step the conversation about Belichick calling to congratulate him
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on his first job.
Speaker 10 (38:26):
We haven't had a lot of communication since I've been here.
I learned a lot from Bill. I honestly did exeon
O's and also, you know, structure and practice and things
like that. But like I said, it's a different time,
it's a different era, and hopefully we can have that
same success.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Memo to Belichick allies, friends and sycophants, this is why
he doesn't get the job, can't get along with his
owner who's well liked his former star quarterback, who's beloved
his mentor and didn't call to congratulate Gerrod Mayo. There's
no real communication. Old grumpy guys drain the juice and
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energy out of a building. And oh yeah, Bill also
wants power, at least to some degree with personnel. And
New England has the lowest projected win total in the
league because they're the least talented team in the league,
and Bill overwhelmingly controlled that the last six to seven drafts.
In New England, he has become the opposite of Sean
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McVeigh who went on a vacation to Cabo bumped into
Matt Stafford. They hit it off so famously. Within three days,
they're offering him a contract. That's the league, collaboration, good energy,
getting along. Have you noticed that Belichick's assistance die with
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fail and mcveigh's and Andy Reid's mostly crush collaboration helping
others lubricate, don't agitate. But when Gerard Maos' is guy
and he just tried to sidestep that whole question, that's
why Bill can't get a job. Leagues change, and people
that are slow to embrace cultural changes, struggle no matter
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what you did. But if you look at Belichick post Brady,
he hasn't struggled. He crashed nineteen and thirty eight, and
it got significantly worse every year. So he used the
Brady momentum. But the longer Tom was gone, the more
inept and embarrassing it got. Personnel, coaching hires, coordinator assignments,
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overall roster. So when people point to Belichick and say,
how can you not give him a job? The league
pivoted and he didn't. And that's fine. He's arguably the
greatest coach of all time. But at some point, if
you can't get along with your mentor whatever you do,
you have a mentor, can't get along with him, your
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great boss, you can't get along with them, your favorite employee,
You don't wish to congratulate them. Maybe it's not everybody
else's fault. Maybe you know the league now is more
Sean McVay than Bill. The league is more offense, it's
more collaborative, it's more community, it's more elevating others. That's
the league didn't used to me. Perhaps it is now.
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Mike Krzyzewski forty two years at Duke, most Final Four
appearances of any coach. JJ Reddick's a Laker coach. What
should we expect? What to make of Jason Tatum? All
this Olympic stuff is so much fun. Love watching it
last night. Congratulated women men playing soon Our two next
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of the next hour team usas coached it several times.
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Thursday night game on Texans Bears, Caleb william says he
wants to play. They'll play a little maybe a couple snaps,
couple series, got to put him out there.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Okay, if you say so, Coach, well, I mean I
don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I mean I think for a rookie, you want some snaps,
even a series six, seven, eight, nine snaps. Maybe so.
Caleb Williams says he wants to play on Thursday game on,
So listen. Caleb Williams is going to be interesting because
he was the first NIL star quarterback in college making
four or five million bucks a year. Now year two later,
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there's a lot of people making a million. Defensive linemen
are making a million. High school kids are getting a
couple hundred and three or four hundred thousand dollars sometimes
not his seniors, but his juniors in high school, so
that things changed. But he was the first NISL superstar,
and he's confident, and he straddles the line between cocky
and confident, and that stuff can get you in real trouble,
(01:50):
real fast. There was a little, uh, you saw a
little bit of it the other day when they asked
Caleb Williams about pressure, which is real and it existsists
in life, in sports and politics. But Caleb says, I
don't believe in it.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Sure isn't aware that I use in my vocabulary really
only when other people talk about it. And every time
that you'll hear me speak about pressure is that I
don't think that pressure is a thing. As long as
you prepare for the moment mentally and physically, get in here, work,
get after whether it's waiveroom film room, and then get
on the film and work, and then obviously game days,
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get out there and go be special.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, so maybe he's one of two or three athletes
all time that doesn't feel pressure, maybe, but it does exist.
So there are six quarterbacks drafted in the first round,
and if you look at history, one will be a star,
maybe one or two will be solid starters, and three
will be misses, maybe four. So let's go to the
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last decade where quarterback play has been much better at
the high school and college level, the coaching of quarterback play,
the cottage industry, the quarterback camps better than ever. And
despite that, in the last decade, we've had thirty two
first round quarterbacks, thirty two seven stars, less than a
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quarter and over half. Seventeen I would call missus had
about six solid starters. Some years three drafted, all misses,
ugly misses over half. So Caleb Williams, to me, is
the only quarterback in this draft. Because I said this yesterday,
Being a quarterback in the NFL is very situational, unless
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maybe you're John Elway or Andrew Luck. Outside of that,
who do you get as coach? Who's the owner, what's
the roster, what's the old line, like, what's the division?
But I do think Caleb Williams is the only quarterback
in this draft that, regardless of situation, will be productive. Now,
I may not win a lot, he may never get
the right coach. I mean, Justin Herbert super productive, yet
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to have the right coach until we think Jim Harbaugh.
So I think the floor for Caleb Williams, the floor
is like Kyler Murray, where he's obviously talented, he throws
a beautiful ball, will win, probably shows up in a
playoff or two, gets paid, but doesn't win enough. Right
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like may have some Mason Mahomes tendencies, they just doesn't
win enough. That's Herbert so far, That's Trevor Lawrence so far.
And I think he's a better prospect than both. But
the rest of the quarterbacks, I'll just say it right now,
let's start with a Drake may. I think there's a
real chance it doesn't work. Bad footwork, not refined, defensive coach,
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bad roster, So he's not gonna get off to a
good start regardless if he succeeds. I think there's a
real possibility he could really, really struggle. If I had
to guess one guy who doesn't make it, this would
probably be my best guess. Michael Pennix like him, but
he's a pocket quarterback and there's not a lot of
those in the league. He's had major injuries, he's a lefty.
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Atlanta doesn't have a history of winning. In fact, they
just I saw this morning they've sold out for the
first time in twenty years. They've sold out their season tickets.
He also has to get through the Kirk Cousins roadblock
for a couple of years. How does that play psychologically
with him? With his confidence. There's Bo Nicks, who I like,
but size, kind of small, arm, kind of average. Now
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we got Sean payton, O line pretty darn good, nice weapons,
Mims Franklin, Courtland Sutton. But he's a small quarterback, doesn't
push the ball down the field a lot. And what
if after three or four years they're just like he's
kind of average. It's possible. JJ McCarthy, I didn't really
buy into him, has a lot of confidence. But JJ McCarthy,
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the quarterback from Michigan, what if he is just a
product of Michigan system and Jim Harbaugh. I mean they
won a national championship. In one game, he didn't throw
a pass in the second half. Again, they tell me
he's a certain height, but he always looks a tad
small and a tad slight to me, I didn't see
all these NFL gms. Even Minnesota only gave up a
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couple of mid to late round picks to get him.
What if he's just more of a product of Michigan.
We've seen that before, guy who's great in college with
a great coach and great personnel. And then there's Jaden Daniels.
I think he's gonna hit, but he is slight. Washington
has knew everything. Owner, GM coach coordinator. What if they
can't protect him with the offensive line, that's certainly possible.
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So my gut is Caleb Williams is the one that
will be productive and you will go wow a lot
and doesn't win. Bad owners, really bad owners, kind of
a political organization. Defensive head coach on the hot seat
in the first month the division. It's a lot of shootouts.
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Minnesota's offense, Green Bay's offense, Detroit offense. You gotta win
by scoring. He may not win much. He may be
on his second coach by next year, and again it's
not the greatest weather. So that's kind of how I
look at all of it. It's very situational. My guess
is that Caleb Williams is talented enough, talented enough to
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at least be productive and jaw dropping as we head
into Thursday, hope to see him play and to go
on with that. General manager, former GM and quarterback legend
John Elway no longer running the Broncos, but by the way,
he won five straight AFC West titles and culminated it
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with a Super Bowl, so he was successful. But John
Elway was saying yesterday that his biggest regret was not
drafting Josh Allen out of Wyoming. Instead, they drafted Bradley Chubb,
an edge rusher. But I think it's interesting talking about
Caleb Williams because Josh Allen is really a reminder of
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how difficult it is. So you watch Josh Allen, now
the most gifted quarterback in the league. Mahomes wins more,
but Josh is bigger, stronger, and moves better. And I
watched him twice in college. He was awful against Oregon,
no touchdowns, a pick, went nine of twenty four. I
watched them against Iowa, two no touchdowns, two picks got
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blown out in both between the two teams, and they
weren't great teams necessarily. Iowa wasn't. He scored a field goal,
a field goal, a field goal, one touchdown. Now I
know it's wyoming. But Patrick Mahomes, who got you know,
some naysayers out of college, was wildly productive. Didn't win
a time, but he was in a much better conference.
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So Josh Allen got overlooked in high school, had to
go to a junior college, only had one small college
offer GM's whift on him, and he is now the
most talented quarterback in the NFL. And don't tell me
you knew he was going to be great. Nobody did.
In fact, his first year he was a mess. And
then he got Brian day ball. Slowly but surely, as
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he was running over linebackers and jumping over safeties, he
got more refined. But look at right now in the NFL,
Jordan Love went from awful to great in about a
three week stretch. Last year, Brock Purdy last guy drafted,
Kurt Warner, Hall of famer undrafted Aaron Rodgers. Josh Allen overlooked,
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had to go to junior colleges. Look at the four
best quarterbacks in fact today in the NFL. Mahomes couldn't
win in college. Josh Allen completely overlooked Lamar Jackson, that
guy should be a wide receiver, and Joe Burrow had
to transfer. Those are the four best quarterbacks in the league.
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And even though Herbert with Harbaugh is going to win,
most general managers and two that I know like Tua
more than justin Herbert, and Tua was almost a bust
with his first coach. So this stuff is so situational.
Ivan Jordan loved last year. Didn't see him for three years,
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awful for five weeks. Three weeks later, Oh my god,
we've got a star. Not even the Packers saw that coming.
So I think seventy five to eighty percent of this
stuff for quarterbacks is just situational. Who's your OC? I mean,
Aaron Rodgers may not succeed this year, and it won't
be all his fault. Is Robert Salah a good coach.
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Natt Hackett is an OC, impulsive owner, rebuilt offensive line.
So for the veterans, Tom Brady literally had to choose
where to go. Matt Stafford chooses where to go. Russell
Wilson could choose kind of where to go, and Brady's like, okay,
go to Tampa, but I need a right tackle, give
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me gronk Ab Lenny Fernett and okay, then I'll do it.
And even he chose the weakest division in football. So
Brady one of the smartest guys ever, and he could
choose kind of the league and target the league. He
wanted to go to Tampa because situationally they needed a
right tackle and a couple of his guys. So good
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luck to Caleb. But this there's nothing in sports that's
more of an inexact science than trying to figure out
the quarterback. And I can't wait until Thursday and the
help he plays. I think. I think, if you've got
a rookie quarterback of Michael Peni's a bone. Knicks got
to give him a couple series. Roll the dice. Not
many quarterbacks ever have been hurt in their rookie year
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in the exhibition season and their careers were over Roll
the dice for the young guys. J Mack coach k
is joining us in fifty minutes from now. I'm fired up.
I think, would you play Cad'd take Caleb two series.
I'm going to see him out there.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
You wouldn't answer me how the offensive line is health
wise heading into design.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
It's a young O line, so they'll probably play some
of their offensive linemen generally older offensive linemen.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
They're not going to play a lot five best starting
offensive linemen in any game in the preseason.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Aaron Rodgers, I would not play in the preseason, right.
I would not play Stafford in the preseason. I'm not
gonna play Burrow Lamar, Josh Mahomes. Those guys I won't play.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
But I think I got nothing to prove. We know
what those guys are.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, but I even think. I even think with a
Trevor Lawrence and a Herbert who need to kind of
pop this year, Kyler Murray, i'd play him a series.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Well, Herbert has all new receivers, so he definitely needs
to play a little bit.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, all right, coming up next, Aaron Rodgers had a
terrible day at practice. But instead of focusing on him,
why don't we talk about the real issue. And I'm
not even talking the offensive line either. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays and Noone Eastern
non a em Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one
and the iHeartRadio app Welcome Back. I tend to think
(12:50):
if you know you're on the hot seat in your job,
whatever you do for a living, you're on the hot seat,
you'll go to work and do things differently. Coaches on
the hot seat will coach differently. Brandon Staley was supposed
to be mister risk taker and then in his last
eight or nine games for the Chargers stopped being a
risk taker. He went against everything he believed in. Why
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because his job was on the line, and they got
very passive and non aggressive because his job was on
the line. Robert SAWA's job is on the line. So
we talk a lot about the Jets, but just think
about this. How many coaches that made the playoffs last
year went into the season on the hot seat. Nick
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Siriani didn't, he'd he was coming off a Super Bowl.
He's on the hot seat. Now, how many coaches that
made the hot made the playoffs last year were on
the hot seat? So let's go AFC. John Harbaugh know McDermott, No,
they're giving him extensions. Andy Reid know Demko Ryans Stefanski
had been Coach of the Year I think twice now. McDaniels,
No Tomlin, they're never. I think he just got an
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extension too. Tomlin's Tomlin's underachieved in my opinion, hot seat
and Steelers coach. That don't go in the same sentence. Shanahan. No,
Mike McCarthy's been on a perpetual hot seat his entire career.
This is the first year. I think he's in trouble
with a bad September in early October. So I don't
think last year it was the hot seat it is today.
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Dan Campbell, no Sirianni had been to the Super Bowl McVeigh, mcfluor,
no luffluor, no Todd Bowles. I guess although it was
the first year for Tampa post Brady, so was it
a hot seat lukewarm? Maybe? But you know so there's
one of fourteen, so we can talk about Aaron Rodgers
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and the rebuilt offensive line is Robert Salah has got
a lot of things working against him. First of all,
the Jets have averaged the fewest points in the league
since he's been a had coach. He now has an
offensive line that's a little old and a little young,
very few Elito linemen in their prime and it's in
the middle of a rebuild. He's got an offensive coordinator
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like this won't add stress that he was going to
hire Arthur Smith to babysit in with play calling in
a division with Josh Allen and one of the smartest
offensive coaches in Mike McDaniel. I'll give you the two
Patriot wins, but we're talking a lot about Aaron Rodgers
in the rebuilt offensive line. Go look at the fourteen
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playoff teams last year. One coach and it was a
luke warm seat at best, Todd Bowles. And I think
when you go to work and you know you're in trouble,
Brandon Staley is a great example. You coach differently. You
coach thinking about the owner watching you. So yesterday Aaron
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had a terrible practice. The offense stunk. Alan was And
by the way, if Aaron struggles, he not taking the
blame from the ownership. And Aaron leads the NFL, he's
all for team passive, aggressive, point to others. So I
think the heat on Sola is a real thing, and
I think it changes the way coaches coach. Here's Alan Lazard.
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They're already talking up Aaron on yesterday's bad day.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
You're talking about one of the best, if not the
best quarterback of all time, and his standard and level
of play is something that a lot of guys haven't
even seen yet, even this organization. You know, they haven't
really been with him on a game day. He obviously
is expects the same standard that he holds himself to
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out of everyone else.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I don't know if he's maybe the best of all time,
but needless to say, we're going into a season where
we're told Aaron's great, meaning if they struggle, Aaron's not
going to get the heat. And I think there's no
question the number one hot seat in the league is
not Brian Dable because everybody in the room knows it's
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Daniel Jones. You watch Hard Knocks, HBO, Max, Joe, Shane,
the Marra's. I'm not really blaming Brian Dable. He's the
He's the north Star, the shining star, and a big mess.
The pressure is on Robert Salah. He is on the
league's hottest hot seat. J mack with the.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
News, No, No on the News, This is the herd
Line News.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Colin has earned plenty of milestones during his NFL career,
already got two MVP awards, he's not thirty years old yet,
but can't get to a Super Bowl still elusive. So
he's entering his seventh season and says winning in February
is his one and only goal.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
That has been the first check bought from me. He says,
twenty eighteen.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
You know I said that April twenty six, whenever we were drafted,
whenever ill jacket, I said that, you know, and not
mid that. But you know this, this the high level this,
you know this game. You know we play, so you
got to go out and champion. That's what I want
to be label And as a champian, you know, not
just LVP here and there, like I want to be
a check I hope.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
So that's the standard of Baltimore with the Jets. It's
just get into the playoffs. The standard for Baltimore's championships.
It's a proud tradition, a well run, non dysfunctional organization.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
So we're going to continue to just give Lamar a
pass for his poor postseason performance.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
He's been criticized. Nobody's given him a pass. People are
criticizing him. He doesn't get a pass. Trevor Lawrence isn't
getting a pass.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Treyvor Lawrence gets a pass, for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I don't what's a pass?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Well, he hasn't done anything in a big spot in
his career yet, Trevor Lawrence not what.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
He had a great half against the Chargers in that
playoff comeback.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, and yet he's still get I mean, fifty five
million a year. You talk about him as like a
top ten ish quarterback five towns.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
No, Trevor Lawrence is ten to eleven. Lamar's top four.
You know, seventy eight to eighty percent of the season
is the regular season. This is not the NBA where
nobody watches it, or baseball where nobody cares. I mean
the trading deadline is players I've never heard of going
to teams I don't care about. This is the NFL,
where every game counts. It's professional college football where every
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Saturday count I'm.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Well aware I play a lot of fantasy football, a
lot of gambling, but I just go in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Okay, Yeah, that's Drock.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Party's been better in his postseason career than Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
And it's not particular.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Got him weaker. That helps. He's also got an offensive
genius at an offensive I thought I.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Thought Harball was one of the best coasts in the league.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
He is, He's four or five. He's up there.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Interesting. He just can't get over the hump.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Okay, I see it all right, Let's get to brock
Perty second story here. He is eligible for his big
extension next offseason.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Colin, this is going to be fascinating, listen, man.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
He's put up good numbers in his year and a half.
He had the one injury against the Eagles in the playoffs,
but he has seen play empty of quarterbacks get monster
contracts this year and says he's not focusing on what
may come to his bank account in the future.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
That's great for those guys, but you know, for for
me and in this team right now, man, we got
to focus on twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
And this season is so long, man. Then there's so
much stuff that you go through.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
So to get caught up in what the years can
look like down the road or anything like that, to me,
that's that's pretty nonsense. So you know, folks, in one
day at a time, I have to get better for
this team, and we all do here. So that's where
my focus is.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
At and all of our focus is at You know,
I really should like him because he always is humble.
I really, I don't know why I got to be nicer.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
He's a great spot on the podium. That's a guy's money.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
No, I mean he he. I think what happens is
you're so over the top with him that I have
to like pump the brakes and be the cooler in
Vegas at the poker table. But he is from at
the podium, decision making intelligence, humility, He's not real big
then have a big arm, you know. I think what
happens is you're so over the top you have him
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like as one of the top quarterbacks in the league
that I have to constantly pump the brakes. But it is.
There are a lot of things he does. You know,
he's got a little bit of dak where they don't
have to love the talent, but I love the intangibles.
His intangibles are off the board. They're great, they're out
to the moon. Intangibles. Intangibles matter.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I mean again, I know you love the big, strapping
dude with a massive arm.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
He throws a beautiful ball.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Those are that's what you value.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I value the numbers because the numbers don't lie, and
the numbers say rock Party in the last year and
a half has been an elite top five quarterback in
the league.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
And good story, there's no there's.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
No like this. Numbers do lie? Oh do they?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Where the numbers lying on rock Perty?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
The Dow Jones is at forty thousand, there's basically five
stocks carrying it for four years, and the video yeah
we got we had a couple. So the numbers lie.
But when you google Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, Tesla and na Video,
you know that they're carrying them. So the stock everybody
looks at now Jones, he goes, oh my god, it's
about six companies that are all trillion dollar companies. Meta.
So like numbers do lie, you have to contextualize all numbers,
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even our Dow Jones. You have to contextualize.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Okay, so content, where are the numbers lying on brock Perty?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Like, he doesn't make a lot of mistakes and he
had a terrible game against the Ravens and a high
profile spot cost him the MVP. Probably Okay, one regular
season game?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Whooped the damn Do ye think? Does it hurt?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And be honest, are you still paying that he came
back and beat your guy Jordan Love, and then came
back and beat your guy Jared gobb in the plaff.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
You know, I don't care about that kind of stuff. No,
it's just I think you'll see over time, this league
is situational, and he got the perfect situation. A plus coach,
a plus left tackle, best back since Walter Payton, great
tight end, a plus debo, a pariantas. So he got
like nine a pluses. He was basically given the keys
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to a Mercedes and told.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Her so it was Trey Lance and he couldn't do anything.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
No, No, Trey Lance was a bust. I'm not saying
he's a buss, but I'm saying, don't take that as
the example. A lot of guys gonna work here. If
you bet Trevor Lawrence in this thing a few years ago,
they got a trophy.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
A lot of guys could have worried. Just plug and
chug with Kyle Shanahan. There, I guess I'll wrap up
with this. My brock Purty love fest will end when
the contract discussions begin, because again brock Purty, and you
could see his contract on the screen. Nine hundred and
thirty four thousand, dollars is what he's averaging on that
rookie deal. He's a barler there it is. I would
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take his contract over any of those guys right there.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Any in the forties and fifties.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
It's just a.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Numbers game called yeah, but I would take the players over.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Him, not what the salary factor did.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
And the salary is factored in.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Now, if you say Brock is going to play for
forty five I don't think that's the worst thing in
the world.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
We know the CAP's going to continue to go up.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
How you start talking fifty five million year for rock
Party and you've lost me, But then again you lost
me with Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence kind of out
on those guys. Final story is the Atlanta Falcons. You
reference this earlier to kind of a surprise. They sold
out all their season tickets for twenty twenty four, first
time this happened in nearly two decades. Atlanta also has
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had a regular season ticket renewal rate, with over ninety
five percent of fans renewing in the first quarter.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
They have a waitless now for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Is this about Raheem Morris kirk cousins It ain't about Pennant.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Well, for let me defend what's going on. It's hard
for the Falcons. First of all, the Braves are wildly popular, Okay,
so a lot of people in sports in a town
will choose one season ticket. And also it's the SEC home,
So all Atlanta is is SEC grat. So if you're married,
Saturday is your day. You're staying home to watch the Falcons.
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But you're married, you're an SEC grat. Auburn Bama old miss.
The only way to make money is to get out
of those small towns to go to Atlanta. So go
to the airport in Atlanta. It's all SEC hats, that's
all it is. So those guys are Saturday stadium guys.
They're all flying or driving or they're going to a bar.
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So you can't generally, if you're in a relationship, you
can't tell your wife. Yeah, I work all week and
in the weekend I'll be with my buddies. So I
think it's hard in Atlanta to sell out because it's
the home of SEC football. Whereas the Indianapolis Colts. You know,
there's a lot of big ten fans there, but there
it's not a quick, little jaunt to get to Indianapolis,
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and so I've always kind of defended the Falcons on
it's hard to sell out their games. The Braves, God,
they've been huge since the seventies eighties, and it's hard.
Most people can't afford dual season.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Ticket to sell out eight games. Come on, well, what
are you talking about? How's that hard? The Braves have
what eighty one home games?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Again, goes back to my Saturday in the South is
bigger than Sunday in the South. Only place in the
country you can say that Saturday in the South is
bigger than Sunday. That's not true in the Northeast.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
When Matt Ryan took them within seconds of the Super
Bowl against Breaks, they have to be next.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Season, they didn't even sell out. Well that's sad.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Well that was a surprise.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
You have to.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Atlanta Hawks and Trey Young. Don't forget about those guests.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Well, they Celtic. It's it's a good NBA city. They
it may not love the Holi Factory, but it's a
good NBA city. It is. It's just they they they
are the Laker fans. Yeah, well, it's a lot of
that move down south that want the weather and the jobs,
but it's it's a good NBA city.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
So, by the way, have you have the Falcons in
the playoffs as one of them?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Oh, I think I think people are sleep I think
they're gonna win twelve thirteen games in that division. I
think that's the easiest schedule in the league. It's the
toughest part is weeks two and three. But again you're
talking about Kansas City had a Rashi Rice issue. They're
hosting Kansas that's a very winnable.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Game for that, I think I'm gonna take Pittsburgh if
it's two and a half or three.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Remember it started at three the line.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Falcons are favored by three, and then I think it
went down to two and a half. I think you
got to go Tomlin on the road in Week one
against the Falcons.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
He's probably the better bet.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Does Atlanta even have a home field advantage?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Like, well, not against the Steelers in that gan, I
don't think Sittsburgh travels right.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Hereritt fields Russell Wilson, Colin Cowherd a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I don't think it matters.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
But I mean, look at Week four on for Atlanta,
it is a lot of Saints, Tampa, Carolina Seattle, Tampa Saints,
Denver By Rader schedule is a nime and it gets
really weak towards the end. I mean toward the end.
You're facing Sam Darnold Gardner, Minshew Daniel Jones, rookie quarterback
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Bryce Young last five games. Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Aidan O'Connell is the leader in the clubhouse.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
For the Raiders. Is that true?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah, they love him. You talk about a pocket quarterback
ai aoc baby, that's his nickname.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
That's what they're calling God J Mack with the news.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
So, no sport in America over the last decade ten
to twelve years has improved like women's basketball. I'll be
completely honest. A decade ago, even when I lived in
Connecticut with Yukon women's basketball. Outside of Yukon, a lot
of women's basketball collegiately to me was unwatchable. Not enough finishers.
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Just okay, that's not what it is anymore. I'm watching
Team USA dismantle Japan. It used to be twelve years
ago Yukon would have six of the top eight college players,
six of eight it was a completely lopsided sport. Now
you have South Carolina in the South is a powerhouse,
Yukon in the Northeast is a powerhouse. Stanford in the
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West is a powerhouse. I think Baylor in the Plain
States in Texas is a powerhouse. Else it is much
more spread out. And I was watching Team USA dismantle
Japan yesterday, and women's basketball is good. Yukon's good, But
Yukon had a stretch and it wasn't that long ago.
Twenty fourteen to twenty seventeen. They won one hundred and
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eleven straight games and many of them by over forty
five points. So what you're watching is the most improved
sport over the last decade in America. But I still
think Caitlan Clark and Angel Reese should be on this team.
Of the six Olympic women's game so far, this team
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and this game against Japan had the lowest attendance, and
it would have had the highest attendance with Caitlin Clark
and Angel Reese. Now, I know Caitlan drives the numbers
more than Angel rees, but I've remarked before that it's
a bird magic situation where I think both exceeding succeeding
elevates both. This Olympics was never about winning the gold.
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For God's sakes, Japan's biggest player yesterday was six' one.
The games won't be close. This was never about the
women winning their eighth straight title. It was about eyeballs
and attention and people watching the game and the team
in record numbers. Again, this game was the lowest attended
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of all the Olympic women's games so far. With a
ten to fifteen year dynasty playing right, women's basketball has
gotten better. The WNBA is growing. I'll still argue they
shot an air ball not putting the two rookie stars
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on this team. This was an opportunity and the NBA
has been doing this for years or in this summer,
they send their stars overseas. They sell the game internationally
and could be China, it could be anywhere. They sell
some gear, some endorsements. They make stars of their players
when they go overseas. It's not about winning, it's about
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the salesmanship. That's why the late David Strn was such
a great commissioner. He made the names on the back
of the basketball jerseys as big as the names on
the front. Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese. Wasn't a selfish
move or undeserving. It was the right move and the
right time to do it. And they missed Mike Krzyzewski
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at the top of the hour and TUA with a
record contract that J McK and I just got hammered.
J Mack yesterday sent me a tweet. I was watching
the Olympics all day. I got a couple of tweets.
He sent me a very funny tweet where we're getting
savaged on the internet. And I'll address some of TUA next.
It's the Hurt. Be sure to catch live editions of
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The Herd Weekdays and New not A em Pacific.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Hey, I'm Doug Gottlieb. The podcast is called All Ball.
We usually talk all basketball all the time, but it's
more about the stories about what made these people love
their sport and all the interesting interactions along the way.
We talked to coaches, we talked to players, We tell
you stories. You download it, you listen to it.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
I think you like it.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
Listen to All Ball with Doug Gottlieb on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Saturday.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
It's Baseball Night in America on Fox, Rising star Gunner
Henderson leave the Oriols against Jose Ramirez in The Guardians
where the Rays take on the Astros or Giant Threads,
and all begins Saturday at seven Eastern on Fox.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Check for the game in your area. So, Dolphin fans,
according to the interweb, I didn't see it. Jmax send
it to me. Were all worked up because, you know,
we said something that was completely true, which is Tua
has an injury history. He can't really play in cold weather,
and all the good teams in the AFC play in
cold weather, and the playoffs are always in January outdoors
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in the AFC. Shame on us for honesty. Sorry, our
fact's got in the way of your feelings. But Tua
is owning the fact that he's making big boy money
now and this changes everything.
Speaker 9 (33:23):
I'm the highest paid employee in this in this office,
Like I mean, I got to get my you know
whatever together. I got to get that right and get
our guys moving in the direction that we need to go,
you know, to be able to do those things.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Actually, Tua's always had his you know what together. He's smart,
he's professional, he's committed, he's a good guy. He says
the right stuff. That's not the issue. The issue is
he doesn't have a very good arm. He would be
much better served if he played in the NFC, where
the best teams are Detroit, a Dome, the Rams so far,
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San Francisco, temperate weather, Atlanta will win their division Dome Dallas.
He doesn't play in the NFC. He plays in the AFC,
with the best teams will probably be Baltimore, Buffalo, Cincinnati,
Kansas City, and quite possibly the New York Jets. All outdoors,
all cold. The average temperature in the last five AFC
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championships is thirty three degrees with wind. You saw the
game even with Tyreek Hill against Kansas City. He can't
throw the ball down the field in that kind of weather.
So what Miami and two a half to root for,
and it's a real thing, is the Chargers and the
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Houston Texans both potentially very good teams to win or
hope that they're a number one seat because at home
at Sofi Stadium in Houston, Miami can match the wits
with anybody I like. Their team. Average offensive line have
to stay healthy, pass rush is hit and miss. But
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the idea that anybody's. He is the only elite quarterback,
highly compensated quarterback in the NFL. Now that you have
to put an asterisk by his name, he's really good
if the weather conditions are right. That's not an opinion.
We went and looked this morning, including the playoffs. Tua
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is twenty seven and twelve in temperatures over fifty he's awful.
One in seven fifty degrees, another under And by the way,
not only is he awful, he's not an NFL quarterback.
He's not even a backup. His passer rating under fifty
degrees is seventy one. That's lower than Tim Tebow's nine
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touchdown twelve picks, fifty seven percent completion, one in seven,
high school in Hawaii, college in the South Miami. So
and it's cold, he's not even a backup. Those are
non NFL numbers. Those are significantly below a Gardner minshew.
So it's not nobody's taking shots at Tua. These are
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facts and numbers that he needs to be a number
one seed or get the Texans or the Chargers, two
teams with the kind of rosters in coaching that could
excel and potentially win a division by the way, if
you go look at Miami schedule, one of the other
things that works against them. That's why I don't have
him right now making the playoffs. If you look at
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the end of their season, go look week twelve on
in at Green Bay, San Francisco, at Cleveland, at New York.
You got three or four games at the end of
the season that are cold weather games. And by the way,
you do get a break. You don't have to face
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Buffalo until week nine, which is like the beginning I think,
and at the beginning of November about week nine, but
that'll be a cold game. So you start looking week
nine on, you know about four or five cold weather games,
and he just doesn't play well in those. That's just
it's not even an opinion, it's just the truth. So
I want to talk about Bill Belichick for a second.
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He no longer coaches the Patriots. He's going to be
a broadcaster and do some broadcasting stuff. But you know,
there was this level of outrage from a lot of
Belichick sycophants and Belichick former co workers. How could he
not get the Atlanta Falcons job. But he couldn't get
along with his owner Robert Kraft. The last decade he
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was there. Almost everybody gets along with Robert Kraft. Brady
and Robert Kraft, despite generational differences, are like best friends.
He can't get along with his mentor, Bill Parcells. He
didn't have dinner with Brady, who everybody gets along with Brady.
He couldn't have dinner with him in twenty years. And
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reportedly he didn't call to congratulate one of his favorite players,
Girrod Mayo, forgetting the job. Probably, I'm guessing, didn't love
the fact that Gerard took the job. Probably Bill thought
he should be loyal to Bill. I'm guessing he can
be petty. But Gerrod Mayo, a classy guy, tried to
side step the conversation about Belichick calling to congratulate him
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on his first job.
Speaker 10 (38:26):
We haven't had a lot of communication since I've been here.
I learned a lot from Bill. I honestly did exeon
O's and also, you know, structure and practice and things
like that. But like I said, it's a different time,
it's a different era, and hopefully we can have that
same success.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Memo to Belichick allies, friends and sycophants, this is why
he doesn't get the job, can't get along with his
owner who's well liked his former star quarterback, who's beloved
his mentor and didn't call to congratulate Gerrod Mayo. There's
no real communication. Old grumpy guys drain the juice and
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energy out of a building. And oh yeah, Bill also
wants power, at least to some degree with personnel. And
New England has the lowest projected win total in the
league because they're the least talented team in the league,
and Bill overwhelmingly controlled that the last six to seven drafts.
In New England, he has become the opposite of Sean
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McVeigh who went on a vacation to Cabo bumped into
Matt Stafford. They hit it off so famously. Within three days,
they're offering him a contract. That's the league, collaboration, good energy,
getting along. Have you noticed that Belichick's assistance die with
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fail and mcveigh's and Andy Reid's mostly crush collaboration helping
others lubricate, don't agitate. But when Gerard Maos' is guy
and he just tried to sidestep that whole question, that's
why Bill can't get a job. Leagues change, and people
that are slow to embrace cultural changes, struggle no matter
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what you did. But if you look at Belichick post Brady,
he hasn't struggled. He crashed nineteen and thirty eight, and
it got significantly worse every year. So he used the
Brady momentum. But the longer Tom was gone, the more
inept and embarrassing it got. Personnel, coaching hires, coordinator assignments,
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overall roster. So when people point to Belichick and say,
how can you not give him a job? The league
pivoted and he didn't. And that's fine. He's arguably the
greatest coach of all time. But at some point, if
you can't get along with your mentor whatever you do,
you have a mentor, can't get along with him, your
(41:03):
great boss, you can't get along with them, your favorite employee,
You don't wish to congratulate them. Maybe it's not everybody
else's fault. Maybe you know the league now is more
Sean McVay than Bill. The league is more offense, it's
more collaborative, it's more community, it's more elevating others. That's
the league didn't used to me. Perhaps it is now.
(41:23):
Mike Krzyzewski forty two years at Duke, most Final Four
appearances of any coach. JJ Reddick's a Laker coach. What
should we expect? What to make of Jason Tatum? All
this Olympic stuff is so much fun. Love watching it
last night. Congratulated women men playing soon Our two next
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