August 6, 2024 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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It's The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you
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Several years ago, it may have been six seven, whenever
it was Sam Darnald Baker. Mayfield came out in the
same class, and I said, I'm a Donald guy over
a Baker guy. I like both. I thought Baker was
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should have been a second round pick. Donald. I like more, bigger, stronger,
more athletic coming out of college. And I was kind
of right on Baker. Let's be honest about it. Like
the stuff that I said would get him in trouble,
the hookspa, the arrogance. Now he's grown up a lot.
I'm very very happy for him. I said, I'm Tampa.
I'd absolutely sign him. I know a situation privately where
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Baker was a wonderful human being. It's not gotten any publicity,
but he did something that was really, really wonderful with somebody.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I know.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I like Baker. I think Baker's a good guy. I
really do. I think he's a good guy and Emily
beautiful couple. But I was kind of right on some
of the stuff. Darnald I've always been seen a I'm
just some goofball. Don't know what I'm talking about. If
Darnald now has won, you know again just through practice,
he's number one on the depth chart. If he goes
on like a six game heater this year, I'm going
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to be incorrigible. You will not want to even pass
me on the street. Because I didn't want to rub
it in with Baker because Baker was struggling at one point,
and I thought, I don't want to be, you know,
cheer for the fact that he's going, you know, he's struggling,
but Sam winning, I'd be cheering for somebody who is
elevating above what you thought he was. So I'm just saying,
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this is the first time he's got a solid organization,
an excellent head coach, and really good weapons how good
will Sam be? I don't know. The division's excellent, but
if he goes on a heater, you may want to
take a few shows off. I'm gonna be really obnoxious,
more so than usual. Fifteen minutes, Chris Sims stops by.
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Are we gonna buy the Texas Longhorns this year? I mean,
I mean, I know they're pretty, I know they got
a bunch of good players, but do they ever really deliver?
We'll we'll. I love Sark, but let's be honest about it.
When's the last time Texas football was better than you thought?
Not very often, So we'll have Chris Sims on later.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays
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and newone Eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
FS one and the iHeartRadio app. Phil Sim's gonna be
doing some Giants TV in the preseason. One of my
favorite guys, his son, Chris Simms. Eight years in the NFL,
rarely lost to ten since twenty six and six, we'll
twenty six and six. We'll get to the Longhorns in
the second. First of all, just and I know this
means nothing to the radio audience, but look, NBC is
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feeling themselves. They got, they got the Olympics. Look at
the lighting on Chris Simms. It's like a salon, perfect hair.
It's very Hollywood looking. Congratulations to me, thanks man.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
You know, I, like I said to you in the break,
I'm trying to be big time like you. And this
is all because this is I'm in my house right
now and because of COVID. COVID really saved me here
and gave me a nice little setup. So yeah, I
feel big time even when I'm at home.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
So good for you. We've been talking J Mack and
I have been talking about this. He brought this up
about two months ago, and I thought it was interesting.
We've heard of housing bubbles, wall street bubbles, and we've
talked about like being wide receiver bubble right now where
nobody is disputing their valuable but there's always been this
one receiver and OBJ A t O and AB and
you start going Randy Moss and it's like, yeah, the
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Patriots didn't win titles and that's what it's about hoisting trophies.
I like Brandon Nyuk. I like him a lot, a lot,
but on that team, he may be the seventh to
eighth most valuable player, maybe the second most talented. I
could not write a check for twenty five million annually formed.
What say you?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I agree with you there, right, I'm kinda shared the
same opinion you do. I like Brandon ay There's no
doubt about it. He's talented. We know he was a
first round pick. He's got good size, right, He's a
good route runner. But at the same time, right, I
put guys like Jamar Chase Tyreek Kill Justin Jefferson AJ
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Brown in a different class than a guy like Brandon Ayuth. Yes,
he's really good, but how much is it the team
around him? Like you've explained, right, we all know defenses
more than not are worried about Christian McCaffrey and what
they're doing in this Shanahan running game. Let alone, I
think you can also say how much do you put
on Shanahan himself and how he gets receivers open wherever
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he goes and makes them look successful no matter who
he calls the place for at wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
So yeah, I'm with you there.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
You know I'm big more into Wait, can we line
him up on the outside and can he beat Manda
Man and run by the best corners in football on
a consistent basis. Can he catch a slant and run
seventy eighty yards like the guys I mentioned previously, No,
I don't think Brandon Ayutz in that class. He's really
damn good, but to me, not a superstar and special
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like some of those guys I mentioned.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Okay, all these first round picks. Somebody brought this up
to me a couple months ago. Caleb Williams defensive coach,
Michael Pennock's defensive coach, Jaden Daniels defensive coach, Drake May
defensive coach, Rookie bo Nicks, and JJ McCarthy offensive coaches.
And for a young quarterbacks, that refinement, that voice is
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not a little thing. You think it's possible that the
quarterbacks at the top of this draft scuff it up
a little bit and a Knicks or a McCarthy emerge
at least for the first couple of years as a
little ahead of the class.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Well, they certainly got an advantage to all the reasons
you're talking about. First off, I mean Sean Payton. We
know it's one of the greatest offensive mines in history
of football.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
So he's gonna do it and.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Make it all about the quarterback and make the quarterback
look as good as he possibly can. And Kevin O'Connell
certainly one of the top five offensive minds in the
game right now, especially when it comes to the pass game.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
So they're all.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
About always focusing everything around the quarter making the quarterback
always look successful, where some of those other guys you
talked about they might just worry about, Hey, let's win
the game.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Let's be a little more careful on offense. Yeah. Right,
let's manage it that way.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Because I'm a defensive head coach, that's usually the moo
of the defensive head coaches. But I will remind you
the greatest coach quarterback, Dubo we've ever seen in the
history of football. Belichick and Tom Brady worked out. Okay,
so let's not judge all of that off of that.
But nonetheless, I think we're going to see all these
rookies playing pretty early on in the season, if not
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from the start. I think it's a very talented group
and I'm always one that's pro get them out there,
get them play, and that's the best experience you can
get in the world.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
So I said earlier today, I talked about perspective Justin
Fields still has a lot of support in the league.
He may win the Pittsburgh job. Daniel Jones bomb no good,
get him out of here. If you go look at
their NFL careers, in every crucial quarterback stat Daniel Jones
is better. He's won a playoff game, and he's had
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a worse off ented line and worse weapons. Now, I'm
not saying either is lighting the world up, but the
perception is Justin Fields deserves a second chance, and Daniel
Jones I can't believe he's starting. I want to talk
about the Giants because the HBO series really put Daniel
Jones in a weird spot. His team didn't want him,
they tried to move up. What you're right next to
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New York, You're in Connecticut. What you tell me does
he have any support do you think truthfully, in the
building or with a fan base in New York.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I think there are fans that are the smart Giant
fans realize, wait, this guy's got some talent.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
And I do think there is support in the building. Now.
I think there are some of the building there that
are using him as a.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Scapegoat, right, And I think, you know, hey, there's certainly
certain fans that are out there and they just blame
everything on the quarterback all the time. But I mean,
you make a lot of good points, and listen, if
there was a two minute drill at the end of the.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Game, I'd rather have Daniel Jones in justin fields.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, and we can't run the ball right and we
have to rely on throwing the ball forty times a game,
I'd still rather have Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
And let's not forget that Daniel Jones is a special runner, right.
And the biggest thing.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Colin is what did anybody expect Daniel Jones to do
last year or most of his career. It's not like, oh,
it's a bad offensive line. It's the worst offensive line
in football he's been in front of. Yeah, they broke
the record last year for sacks, and I would tell
you Daniel Jones got out of another twenty or thirty
during the year. So yes, I think Daniel Jones is underrated.
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I like justin fields, He's going in the right direction
in a lot of areas. But I think the Bears
got rid of him because of some of the things
we talked about. He still had to be managed. They
didn't trust them in games where they had to throw
the ball and attack through the passing game. Right, So
those are things you don't have to worry about Daniel Jones.
Let's see if Daniel Jones, let's see if the Giants,
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more importantly, can finally put a team and an offensive
line in front of him that can truly allow his
true talents to show. And I expect them to be
better this year upfront, and I think you'll see a
pretty damn good Daniel Jones as well.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
So I can remember covering Oregon the old Ottson Stadium.
Then they put a you know, a zillion dollars into
the uniforms, the facilities in the new stadiums, and for
a couple of years they were prettier, but I didn't
think they were as tough. They got a little soft.
I mean they led the world in facilities. Now Oregon's great,
but I remember that. It's like there was a certain
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like work ethos with Oregon, and then they were the
fancy school and the stadium wasn't as loud. So Texas,
my entire adult life has been the glamour program. It's
I mean, the uniforms, it is just I mean, they
got lambows, in the parking lot. And my takeaway is
did I as much as I love Texas football? And
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I don't know why I didn't grow up with it.
I just always it just was cool. But I gotta
be honest, they underachieve a lot, and now I'm like,
they may have the best roster in the sport. Maybe
Ohio State is a little better. But my take is,
don't they have to win twelve to thirteen games this year,
like period, no excuses. They even have two excellent quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah, I mean agreed. Listen, they're on the up and up.
We know that the talent's real, right. I knew that
last year when they lined up in what week three
or two last year against Alabama, that was the first
time in a long time I went, whoa, we look
the part right. We don't have to trick it up
or do anything. We look like we can stand toe
to toe with Alabama, and in fact, we look like
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we might be better, you know. So we are back
from that stamp from that standpoint. Now, the things you
bring up, they're real. I mean, listen, we underachieved when
I was there, even though we were a top five
team three years in a row, and hey, maybe I
was part of that underachieving and you know, not playing
good against Oklahoma. But no, I will say in Texas
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because the school it does have so much money, the
facilities are still great. You're the king of Texas and
you're certainly the king of Austin. You get treated like
you are an NFL superstar when you're good and you're
playing for the Texas Longhorns.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah, when I was.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
In college there, Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan, the coach of the
forty nine, used to laugh and go, they treat you
like you're John.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Elway, And I'd looked at them and go, I know
it's crazy, but.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I do think Steve's Arkisian has brought a toughness and
an edge to the football team, and I think the
team is legitimately super talented. Like you explained, now, the
thing is the biggest thing for me. Then this year,
we know the quarterback's good, they got to replace some
wide receivers and a new running back and all that.
But it's gonna be the schedule itself. The Big twelve.
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Come on, you know, commin it's a seven on seven
conference the last fifteen twelve years. Now they're gonna have
to play week in and week out SEC type of football.
I think that's gonna be the biggest adjustment. We can't
have a week of oh, we didn't play our best,
but you know, so be it. It's just Iowa State
will still win the game somehow, some way. That can't
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happen now, and I think that's what they really got
to get mentally ready for.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, I see a lot of ws on that schedule,
Chris Sims, one of my faves. Say hi to your dad,
I'll be watching those Giants preseason games. If if somehow
I can pick it up on the satellite, could see
anybody you too, Thanks buddy.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
You'll figure it out. You got enough mind, you'll get
it on the satellite.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Then come on, come on, what what are we talking
about here, Chris Chris Simms. No, the that that that
schedules got Georgia right in the middle of it. There
are a lot of dou ws there. There are a
lot of ws and a lot of lambos on that campus.
Suddenly J Mack with the news, turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
This is the headline news.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Starting with college football. This is one of the cooler
stories I've heard this summer. So Florida International University announced
an unprecedented partnership with the rapper Pitbull today, mister International,
he signed a five year, six million dollar agreement including
the naming rights to the stadium. So FIU will now
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play their games at Pitbull Stadium. Okay, the first ever
athletics venue with an artist possessing the naming rights. So Colin,
some of the details are trickling out. This is very
cool and smart. This is very sad.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Will that'd be his venue? Like I mean in Florida?
Could he go for form there all the time?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Yeah, he could do halftimes, he could do post games.
He can make it basically make FIU football kind of
a cool brank How about this, I will do two
concerts a year. I don't have to lease or pay,
and it's all profit exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I'll give you the naming rights. You give me three
nights a year. I get the stadium for free to
do whatever I want with my concert.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Oh, by the way, guess what. He has a vodka
brand and that's going to be the vodka that's sold
in the stadium. So easy money.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Now is Pitbull? I know he's hot in Florida. Is
he still a thing.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
He's a big deal.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
That's like his thing. He yells and like that's all
this cool stuff. Anyways, Listen, if I had some good
coaches in recent years, marchurstaball Butch Davis. So I think there.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I'm not sure that Florida.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
I think that was Florida Atlantic. They can make this
something at FIU. I don't know how big it can get,
but I did.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Look.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
So they play in Miami Dade County, right, which you
know a lot. It was like a hotbed for high school.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Of course.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
And the town is Westchester where if I you plays
eighty eight percent Latino and Hispanic. Wow, Okay, Pitbull go it. Basically,
this is gonna be his home. He's gonna make this
area his I'm just I think this is just a
brilliant use of marketing on his part and branding. This
is smart. And I'm waiting for you now to step
bo and put the cowherd. Don't you have the amburgers
and beers? Now?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
You know Eastern Washington cowherd field?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
How about is that the blue turf? Is that what
they have up there?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
It's the red turf, red turf.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
I'm sorry, bluest boys.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I donated a small amount to the red turf, which
when it snows, we didn't predict it with turned pink,
which it did didn't work out quite like we can.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
I think you need to put your name on the stadium.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Oh, I know. I am a journalist. I'm a respected journalist.
I don't want to be part of those shenanigans. Yeah,
a lot of rich people out there. There's farmers up
there everywhere that I got a lot of stacks of
cat Shout out to pittfull very smart. Next up Joe Burrow.
He wants to get back to the super Bowl. Remember
he narrowly lost to the Rams a few years ago.
It's so far this season the super Bowl is in
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New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
It'll be on Fox. I'm almost certain because I've never
been to New Orleans. I hear it's an amazing looking forward
to going. He wants to go back to the stadium
where he won a national title with LSU instead, it'd
be fun to win it all back in New Orleans.
He'd obviously have a home field advantage down there, being
an LSU guy. I don't know where are you on
the Bengals in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I don't know because it's all health to me. So
you know it's weird. They got rid of Joe Mixon,
good player, they've moved off some of their better players.
But they pay a quarterback, they pay an edge rusher,
they pay Jamar Chase. Why can't they pay for a
second receiver.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Well that's what Miami's doing.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Oh they haven't paid Jamar Chase. Yes, but my takeaway
if you just said we're gonna pay money to these
four Burrow Chase Higgins in the edge rusher, well just
draft it. Well, I mean, it's just funny how like
Philadelphia's got two star receivers and multiple and their tackles
and they pay Jalen Hurts and they paid a safety
and they pay. But it's weird how the salary cap works.
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Like some teams feel like San Francisco pays everybody outside
of brock Purty.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Everybody's Jalen Hurts get his deal done? Was it last year?
It feels like forever ago, But he's now like slid
down the Listen about this.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Deebo gets paid, Kittle gets paid, Warner gets tramp Scott paid. Yeah,
but that's just one guy. But it is interesting to me,
is the whole T Higgins thing like I would. I
would figure out ways to if I could have Jamar
Chase and T Higgins for half of my NFL career
at wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
It feels a little top heavy. We laughed at Miami
earlier in the show for their situation paying to a
paying Wattle, paying hill.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Did you notice the footage of Joe Burrow. Dude, that
guy put on minimum ten to fifteen pounds. Look at
the video Joe Burrow. I was looking at him.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
He's kind of jacked.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
He is jacked.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
I mean, I got bigger arms in him. But that's
not saying much, you know, Like you know, I work
on the show Muscles as you know. But yeah, listen Burrow,
He's gonna have a chance to get back. But you
would pay T Higgins top dollar.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I think he's arguably one of the best number two
receivers in the league. So you I mean, if I
have Joe Burrow, I got to need a left tackle
weapons and they got rid of mixing. So it's like,
I don't know their depth chart at tight end, but
it's why can't you keep two receivers Philadelphia's pay Have
they drafted.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Well since Burrow and Chase because.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I think they draft I don't think they draft like
Green Bay, but I think they draft fine.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Yeah, because you need They're just so top heavy. If
if Chase goes down for six games, what are the
Bengals next year? It's like Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
T Higgins is a hard guy. He's going to four
I don't. I mean, he's been consistently better than Brandon
and Ayyuk the last three years.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Consistently when when Chase went down, he's good. I like
the Bengals, I don't. I don't know my AFC team yet.
I keep moving around. But are the Bengals. They're in
your Super Bowl bubble?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Right?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I think I think they're all. I gotta watch them play. Oh, okay.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Final story, Team USA faces Brazil in the quarterfinals. I
think it's coming up in like the next hour or so.
Brazil has been a bit of a Cinderella story, and
Steve King said his team needs to be ready for
their physicality. There's it's been a lot of talk about
different starting lineups, about who just courage decided not to play.
He's starting to get sick of it, pushing back with
the media and saying this whole social media nonsense. That's
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a regular season thing where the soap opera can carry
the ratings. Here, we just want to win the damn
gold medal. Now, what's super fascinating is Canada played today
and lost a bit of a stunner to France. France
benched Rudy Gobert, their center. He played three minutes Collin Wow.
So they said that's too big. The two bigs is
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just too much. They bench Gobert. I wonder if they
start to slip up. Is Joelle Embiid the fall guy
in that starting lineup, because I mean, who else are
you pulling? I don't think he's gonna pull Curry, who
has been struggling, But Embiid's probably the guy who's most
likely to get benched, just like Gobert was today.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, I don't think we're gonna have to worry about him.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
I'm not against Brazil. But in the next round, that
Serbia team, man, they they're tough.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
We've beaten him twice, I know, and that's the problem.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
It's tough to beat a team three times.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
In what a month?
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Have lebron Adou They had this guy named Yoka Tea.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
It was pretty good he's pretty sure.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
They were down twenty four today. Can I think came
back in one?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Serbia didn't.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Yeah, they were going to smoke by Australia.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
France was crushing candidate.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah, Canada storm back in Frantada. France held on. So
when min Yama in the semi finals, I'll tell.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
You the FOBA rules are different than the NBA rules.
I love goaltending in Foba. Yes, I love it. When
the ball's on the ten, baby, go knock it off.
We need that at the NBA. That's what I said. Yeah,
you know, it's like college football. I prefer the college
football pass interference where it's just like fifteen yards. In
the NFL, you and I our feet could get tangled.
It's a sixty three yard pounds. Yeah yeah. I also
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hate the NFL where you fumble the ball out of
the end zone, you lose possession. That's way too punids.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
What about overtime rules college football?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Though nobody can figure out over time. Everybody is sure
they have the exact formula, they're all awful.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
College Football's is all I the guy that's last overtime
in all sports?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Oh, it's you could be an hour long.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
So you're like the twenty five yard line. You're just
scoring left and right, and like everybody's tired. So it's
big place.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I always told you my overtime rule, and nobody likes it.
I wrote about it. The road team always gets first possession.
So if you think about the NFL, I have to
travel because the NFL is all built on parody. The
more you win, the allows hear the draft pick. So it's
not Baseball where most money wins, or NBA most stars win.
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The NFL is trying to create parody. Now, college football
isn't best team, better recruiting class. So the road team
gets the ball first, and then from that point first
team scores. And you say, what about the fairness? So
in football, the crowd can absolutely negatively affect a team.
You can struggle hearing, even with a new helmet equipment.
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It's harder in the end zone to hear. And that
if I have to do all the traveling once a week,
I have to stay in a hotel. I can't here
in the stadium. The one advantage I get is overtime.
I get the ball first, and if you score, it's over.
It doesn't matter what you score. You score, it's oh.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
No way, that is no. Then you got teams playing
for overtime in the fourth quarter as opposed to try
to win the game.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Well we go to overtime. We gonna tell you who's
not playing for overtime the home team phone team. And
by the way, the road team may not either based
on quarterback play the road team. If the road team's
a defensive team, no they're not.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I just like the.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Equality of opportunity. Both teams get the ball in overtime,
which is what college has a NFL. We saw that
in the Super Bowl. San Frank got it. First kick
the field goal.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Make a stop, take a play, no excuses, jam with
the news.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
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Speaker 1 (23:39):
Basketball Joe l Embiid has had a very, very rough Olympics.
Charles Barkley was on the Paul George Podcast. You know,
he talked about some of the issues Joel Embiid will
have to look in the mirror with I hope this.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Is a week up for Joel this Olympic experience. He
is not played well, and I'm hoping he's like, yo, man,
I got to get in better shape because of me personally.
I think that's one reason he's always injured. I don't
think he's in good enough shape, but I think the
way he's played, which is not well during the Olympic,
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should be a wake up call for him, Like, you
know what, I got to get in better shape. I
gotta get healthy because if we don't win the championship
or go deep into the playoffs, it's going to be
because of me.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I agree with Charles, and I do think it's been
a bit of a revelation that he can't just blame
James Harden and Ben Simmons and Tobias Harris. A lot
of it is Embiid clogging up the offense. And Nick
Wright stopped by earlier and we talked about this. I said,
is it time now? He's not Jokic, he's not Yannis,
he's not a d We have to drop him out
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of that class.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
I think everything you said there, unfortunately is fair because listen,
I have been an Embiid fan. I have picked the
Sixers a couple times to make.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
The NBA finals.
Speaker 9 (25:02):
You know, I admit my You know if I advice
is I admit them.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
I think they're they're GM.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
In addition to being a pal of mine, I think
is one of the sharpest savviest minds in basketball. So
I root for I root for Daryl, I root for
the Sixers to a degree.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
But all those.
Speaker 9 (25:18):
Critiques I feel have been crystallized in this Olympic run.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
Yes, which is he isn't in great shape.
Speaker 9 (25:26):
Now part of that is you know, circular, which is
he gets hurt so he can't be you know, he
can't do the conditioning he needs to do, so then
he's out of shape. But then that leads to more injuries,
and so you wonder is that ever going to get fixed.
I thought some of the quotes he gave were really unfortunate.
(25:47):
What the stuff he said about you know, Lebron and
Durant and those guys. It's like, those are your teammates.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
For these few weeks. That to me is odd.
Speaker 9 (25:56):
And the fact that when they put this Olympic team together,
Embeied obviously not born in the States, and then theoretically
was going to play for France.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
And then we ended up getting it. It was a
huge coup.
Speaker 9 (26:09):
It was supposed to be the cheat code for this
Olympic team, that we're going to have the size, the rebounding,
the defense to compete with anybody, when we weren't necessarily
going to have that on this roster without it, and
instead he's been one of the least reliable worst players.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
On the team.
Speaker 9 (26:28):
And it is to me, I think people and folks
can roll their eyes at me when I say this,
but I just think the data is, the facts are
out there from watching the games. Prematurely disdowngraded Lebron in
his stature in the league because they're like, he's in
year twenty he's in year twenty one. He's almost forty
years old. And when Lebron is healthy, we're seeing it
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right now, he's still one of the five best players alive.
And I think they prematurely upgraded Embiid without a single
great playoff run, which we've asked for from every star ever,
even if you don't win the championship, just a great
start to finish playoff run, because he is such a
dominant regular season player, but the fact that the team
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is flatley better without him playing in these Olympics is
a really tough argument to pull against if you still
want to say he's one of the four best players
in the world.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Finally, I think I said this earlier this week. Jerry Jones,
owner of the Cowboys, is not terrified of never winning
another Super Bowl. He's got three. He's terrified of irrelevance
and Dak Prescott makes you relevant, and Dak's gonna get
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his money. It's a weak college quarterback class. I've already
had two executives in the league tell me they are
interested in Dak. He's gonna get his money. That's my
take is Jerry is, you know, as predictable as you
know the Morning Sun. Is that he drafted him, he
found him. I mean, during the anthem controversies, Dak was there.
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He's great at the podium. He keeps you relevant. I
think Dak's gonna get sixty five million. Do you think
I'm nuts?
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Don't you so sixty That part's correct?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
No, I don't.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
I totally agree with your first point, and if I can,
I'm gonna steal a line from a mutual friend of ours,
Kevin Clark, and congrats to Kevin and his upward success
and everything he's doing. He said on his podcast or
on some outlet a couple weeks ago that if someone
came to Jerry Jones and said, I guarantee you you
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win the Super Bowl this year, and all you have
to give me is that you will never do a
press conference again, he wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Take the trick. And I was like, oh, I agree
with that take.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
I think that is correct that if Jerry's like guaranteed
Genie rub on the you know the crystal. I'm screwing
this up. The genies come out of lamp.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
They you have three there.
Speaker 9 (29:04):
It is I guarantee you win the super Bowl, but
you have to cancel your weekly radio hit and you
never do a present gun to be like now, I'll
roll the dice. So I agree with that part of it.
Where I disagree is this, if they were gonna pay Dak,
they'd have paid Dak. Had they paid Dak, it would
be easier to pay ceed Lamb. They might have been
more active in free agency. I think that they are
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terrified of being locked into a ceiling with Dak Prescott.
And I think you're right about the money. Everyone that's saying,
oh my god, Dak could get fifty seven fifty eight million,
that is not accurate. It is a minimum of sixty
It is probably sixty.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Five million dollars a year.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
And I don't think the Cowboys are gonna pay it
because if they would have, if they were going to,
they would have.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
So I think Dak's gonna.
Speaker 9 (29:52):
Play out this year and then become a thirty one
year old franchise quarterback with a true free and clear
free agency.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
And I've been saying it I will keep saying it.
Speaker 9 (30:03):
I really think Dak Prescott Bill Belichick package deal to
the New York Giants a year from now is going
to happen, and I think Bill gets to end where
he started. I think the Giants get to rebrand entirely
and steal the Cowboys quarterback and Dak gets something like
three years, two hundred million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
And that's where this thing ends up going.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
But the biggest quarterback story today is that the Minnesota
Vikings have released their first depth chart and Sam Donald
convincingly beat out JA J. McCarthy, the heralded Michigan quarterback
who is in a battle with Nick Mullins for the backup. So,
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Sam Donald, this is his first great coach, his best
offensive weaponry Sam Darnold. Now, I will say J Mack
last week and tomorrow's headlines today, he did his NFC
predictions and you had Minnesota as a wild card team.
(31:09):
I don't. But does that mean Donald, like Baker Mayfield,
has a little bit like a Geno Smith, a little
bit of a rebirth.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Yeah, I'm one hundred percent with you. Look what O'Connell
did with those quarterbacks last year. It was like Josh
Dobbs and Jaren Hall, and now you had Aaron Jones
to the running backom. Remember they had no running back
last year. Madison was hurt. They were going with randoms.
I think this Viking team's gonna be spicy. I mean
that division's very good, right, Lions Packers.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Only one really only one really good defense, New Chicago's
so you listen. We've seen Geno Smith, who was a
complete bust. I mean, Donald had highlights. Gino is a
buff up. Seattle got to the playoffs. I mean Baker
Mayfield rams briefly Tampa rebirth. So it's in a sport
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where eight teams every year desperate at quarter back. Sam
Darnold has a very good year. Let's say wins nine games,
they don't make the playoffs, but he throws for thirty
eight hundred yards, twenty six touchdowns, eight nine picks, sixty
two to sixty three. He'll get a Baker contract somewhere.
It's not a very good college quarterback draft. I think
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he's gonna get a contract.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
And that might be going a little far. I mean,
Baker got him to the playoffs, and I'd like, didn't
he have the best season of his kill.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
We have Minnesota getting to the playoffs, so that tells
me Sam's gonna get it. They're not getting to the
playoffs because of their defense.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Well, Flores is known for turning things around. He's got
some players on the defense are good. Gosh, the NFL
season can't get here soon enough. So many new like
the Vikings to me are like a top seven interesting
team because we're all in on O'Connell. We both know
somebody who's super close to them. Well, was that his wedding?
And like, come on, you root for the Jets.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I'm supposed to be above that as a hardened, respected journalist.
It's gonna be hard for me to watch Viking games
and not root for my guy, Sammy, Sammy, dam Med,
it's gonna be hard for me. See you tomorrow.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, here we go live in Los Angeles, our number three.
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Several years ago, it may have been six seven, whenever
it was Sam Darnald Baker. Mayfield came out in the
same class, and I said, I'm a Donald guy over
a Baker guy. I like both. I thought Baker was
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should have been a second round pick. Donald. I like more, bigger, stronger,
more athletic coming out of college. And I was kind
of right on Baker. Let's be honest about it. Like
the stuff that I said would get him in trouble,
the hookspa, the arrogance. Now he's grown up a lot.
I'm very very happy for him. I said, I'm Tampa.
I'd absolutely sign him. I know a situation privately where
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Baker was a wonderful human being. It's not gotten any publicity,
but he did something that was really, really wonderful with somebody.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I know.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I like Baker. I think Baker's a good guy. I
really do. I think he's a good guy and Emily
beautiful couple. But I was kind of right on some
of the stuff. Darnald I've always been seen a I'm
just some goofball. Don't know what I'm talking about. If
Darnald now has won, you know again just through practice,
he's number one on the depth chart. If he goes
on like a six game heater this year, I'm going
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to be incorrigible. You will not want to even pass
me on the street. Because I didn't want to rub
it in with Baker because Baker was struggling at one point,
and I thought, I don't want to be, you know,
cheer for the fact that he's going, you know, he's struggling,
but Sam winning, I'd be cheering for somebody who is
elevating above what you thought he was. So I'm just saying,
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this is the first time he's got a solid organization,
an excellent head coach, and really good weapons how good
will Sam be? I don't know. The division's excellent, but
if he goes on a heater, you may want to
take a few shows off. I'm gonna be really obnoxious,
more so than usual. Fifteen minutes, Chris Sims stops by.
(02:24):
Are we gonna buy the Texas Longhorns this year? I mean,
I mean, I know they're pretty, I know they got
a bunch of good players, but do they ever really deliver?
We'll we'll. I love Sark, but let's be honest about it.
When's the last time Texas football was better than you thought?
Not very often, So we'll have Chris Sims on later.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays
(02:46):
and newone Eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
FS one and the iHeartRadio app. Phil Sim's gonna be
doing some Giants TV in the preseason. One of my
favorite guys, his son, Chris Simms. Eight years in the NFL,
rarely lost to ten since twenty six and six, we'll
twenty six and six. We'll get to the Longhorns in
the second. First of all, just and I know this
means nothing to the radio audience, but look, NBC is
(03:08):
feeling themselves. They got, they got the Olympics. Look at
the lighting on Chris Simms. It's like a salon, perfect hair.
It's very Hollywood looking. Congratulations to me, thanks man.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
You know, I, like I said to you in the break,
I'm trying to be big time like you. And this
is all because this is I'm in my house right
now and because of COVID. COVID really saved me here
and gave me a nice little setup. So yeah, I
feel big time even when I'm at home.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
So good for you. We've been talking J Mack and
I have been talking about this. He brought this up
about two months ago, and I thought it was interesting.
We've heard of housing bubbles, wall street bubbles, and we've
talked about like being wide receiver bubble right now where
nobody is disputing their valuable but there's always been this
one receiver and OBJ A t O and AB and
you start going Randy Moss and it's like, yeah, the
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Patriots didn't win titles and that's what it's about hoisting trophies.
I like Brandon Nyuk. I like him a lot, a lot,
but on that team, he may be the seventh to
eighth most valuable player, maybe the second most talented. I
could not write a check for twenty five million annually formed.
What say you?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I agree with you there, right, I'm kinda shared the
same opinion you do. I like Brandon ay There's no
doubt about it. He's talented. We know he was a
first round pick. He's got good size, right, He's a
good route runner. But at the same time, right, I
put guys like Jamar Chase Tyreek Kill Justin Jefferson AJ
(04:35):
Brown in a different class than a guy like Brandon Ayuth. Yes,
he's really good, but how much is it the team
around him? Like you've explained, right, we all know defenses
more than not are worried about Christian McCaffrey and what
they're doing in this Shanahan running game. Let alone, I
think you can also say how much do you put
on Shanahan himself and how he gets receivers open wherever
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he goes and makes them look successful no matter who
he calls the place for at wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
So yeah, I'm with you there.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
You know I'm big more into Wait, can we line
him up on the outside and can he beat Manda
Man and run by the best corners in football on
a consistent basis. Can he catch a slant and run
seventy eighty yards like the guys I mentioned previously, No,
I don't think Brandon Ayutz in that class. He's really
damn good, but to me, not a superstar and special
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like some of those guys I mentioned.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Okay, all these first round picks. Somebody brought this up
to me a couple months ago. Caleb Williams defensive coach,
Michael Pennock's defensive coach, Jaden Daniels defensive coach, Drake May
defensive coach, Rookie bo Nicks, and JJ McCarthy offensive coaches.
And for a young quarterbacks, that refinement, that voice is
(05:52):
not a little thing. You think it's possible that the
quarterbacks at the top of this draft scuff it up
a little bit and a Knicks or a McCarthy emerge
at least for the first couple of years as a
little ahead of the class.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Well, they certainly got an advantage to all the reasons
you're talking about. First off, I mean Sean Payton. We
know it's one of the greatest offensive mines in history
of football.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
So he's gonna do it and.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Make it all about the quarterback and make the quarterback
look as good as he possibly can. And Kevin O'Connell
certainly one of the top five offensive minds in the
game right now, especially when it comes to the pass game.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
So they're all.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
About always focusing everything around the quarter making the quarterback
always look successful, where some of those other guys you
talked about they might just worry about, Hey, let's win
the game.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Let's be a little more careful on offense. Yeah. Right,
let's manage it that way.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Because I'm a defensive head coach, that's usually the moo
of the defensive head coaches. But I will remind you
the greatest coach quarterback, Dubo we've ever seen in the
history of football. Belichick and Tom Brady worked out. Okay,
so let's not judge all of that off of that.
But nonetheless, I think we're going to see all these
rookies playing pretty early on in the season, if not
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from the start. I think it's a very talented group
and I'm always one that's pro get them out there,
get them play, and that's the best experience you can
get in the world.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
So I said earlier today, I talked about perspective Justin
Fields still has a lot of support in the league.
He may win the Pittsburgh job. Daniel Jones bomb no good,
get him out of here. If you go look at
their NFL careers, in every crucial quarterback stat Daniel Jones
is better. He's won a playoff game, and he's had
(07:37):
a worse off ented line and worse weapons. Now, I'm
not saying either is lighting the world up, but the
perception is Justin Fields deserves a second chance, and Daniel
Jones I can't believe he's starting. I want to talk
about the Giants because the HBO series really put Daniel
Jones in a weird spot. His team didn't want him,
they tried to move up. What you're right next to
(08:01):
New York, You're in Connecticut. What you tell me does
he have any support do you think truthfully, in the
building or with a fan base in New York.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I think there are fans that are the smart Giant
fans realize, wait, this guy's got some talent.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
And I do think there is support in the building. Now.
I think there are some of the building there that
are using him as a.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Scapegoat, right, And I think, you know, hey, there's certainly
certain fans that are out there and they just blame
everything on the quarterback all the time. But I mean,
you make a lot of good points, and listen, if
there was a two minute drill at the end of the.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Game, I'd rather have Daniel Jones in justin fields.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, and we can't run the ball right and we
have to rely on throwing the ball forty times a game,
I'd still rather have Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
And let's not forget that Daniel Jones is a special runner, right.
And the biggest thing.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Colin is what did anybody expect Daniel Jones to do
last year or most of his career. It's not like, oh,
it's a bad offensive line. It's the worst offensive line
in football he's been in front of. Yeah, they broke
the record last year for sacks, and I would tell
you Daniel Jones got out of another twenty or thirty
during the year. So yes, I think Daniel Jones is underrated.
(09:10):
I like justin fields, He's going in the right direction
in a lot of areas. But I think the Bears
got rid of him because of some of the things
we talked about. He still had to be managed. They
didn't trust them in games where they had to throw
the ball and attack through the passing game. Right, So
those are things you don't have to worry about Daniel Jones.
Let's see if Daniel Jones, let's see if the Giants,
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more importantly, can finally put a team and an offensive
line in front of him that can truly allow his
true talents to show. And I expect them to be
better this year upfront, and I think you'll see a
pretty damn good Daniel Jones as well.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
So I can remember covering Oregon the old Ottson Stadium.
Then they put a you know, a zillion dollars into
the uniforms, the facilities in the new stadiums, and for
a couple of years they were prettier, but I didn't
think they were as tough. They got a little soft.
I mean they led the world in facilities. Now Oregon's great,
but I remember that. It's like there was a certain
(10:07):
like work ethos with Oregon, and then they were the
fancy school and the stadium wasn't as loud. So Texas,
my entire adult life has been the glamour program. It's
I mean, the uniforms, it is just I mean, they
got lambows, in the parking lot. And my takeaway is
did I as much as I love Texas football? And
(10:27):
I don't know why I didn't grow up with it.
I just always it just was cool. But I gotta
be honest, they underachieve a lot, and now I'm like,
they may have the best roster in the sport. Maybe
Ohio State is a little better. But my take is,
don't they have to win twelve to thirteen games this year,
like period, no excuses. They even have two excellent quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah, I mean agreed. Listen, they're on the up and up.
We know that the talent's real, right. I knew that
last year when they lined up in what week three
or two last year against Alabama, that was the first
time in a long time I went, whoa, we look
the part right. We don't have to trick it up
or do anything. We look like we can stand toe
to toe with Alabama, and in fact, we look like
(11:12):
we might be better, you know. So we are back
from that stamp from that standpoint. Now, the things you
bring up, they're real. I mean, listen, we underachieved when
I was there, even though we were a top five
team three years in a row, and hey, maybe I
was part of that underachieving and you know, not playing
good against Oklahoma. But no, I will say in Texas
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because the school it does have so much money, the
facilities are still great. You're the king of Texas and
you're certainly the king of Austin. You get treated like
you are an NFL superstar when you're good and you're
playing for the Texas Longhorns.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah, when I was.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
In college there, Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan, the coach of the
forty nine, used to laugh and go, they treat you
like you're John.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Elway, And I'd looked at them and go, I know
it's crazy, but.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I do think Steve's Arkisian has brought a toughness and
an edge to the football team, and I think the
team is legitimately super talented. Like you explained, now, the
thing is the biggest thing for me. Then this year,
we know the quarterback's good, they got to replace some
wide receivers and a new running back and all that.
But it's gonna be the schedule itself. The Big twelve.
(12:20):
Come on, you know, commin it's a seven on seven
conference the last fifteen twelve years. Now they're gonna have
to play week in and week out SEC type of football.
I think that's gonna be the biggest adjustment. We can't
have a week of oh, we didn't play our best,
but you know, so be it. It's just Iowa State
will still win the game somehow, some way. That can't
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happen now, and I think that's what they really got
to get mentally ready for.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, I see a lot of ws on that schedule,
Chris Sims, one of my faves. Say hi to your dad,
I'll be watching those Giants preseason games. If if somehow
I can pick it up on the satellite, could see
anybody you too, Thanks buddy.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
You'll figure it out. You got enough mind, you'll get
it on the satellite.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Then come on, come on, what what are we talking
about here, Chris Chris Simms. No, the that that that
schedules got Georgia right in the middle of it. There
are a lot of dou ws there. There are a
lot of ws and a lot of lambos on that campus.
Suddenly J Mack with the news, turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
This is the headline news.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Starting with college football. This is one of the cooler
stories I've heard this summer. So Florida International University announced
an unprecedented partnership with the rapper Pitbull today, mister International,
he signed a five year, six million dollar agreement including
the naming rights to the stadium. So FIU will now
(13:44):
play their games at Pitbull Stadium. Okay, the first ever
athletics venue with an artist possessing the naming rights. So Colin,
some of the details are trickling out. This is very
cool and smart. This is very sad.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Will that'd be his venue? Like I mean in Florida?
Could he go for form there all the time?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Yeah, he could do halftimes, he could do post games.
He can make it basically make FIU football kind of
a cool brank How about this, I will do two
concerts a year. I don't have to lease or pay,
and it's all profit exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I'll give you the naming rights. You give me three
nights a year. I get the stadium for free to
do whatever I want with my concert.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Oh, by the way, guess what. He has a vodka
brand and that's going to be the vodka that's sold
in the stadium. So easy money.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Now is Pitbull? I know he's hot in Florida. Is
he still a thing.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
He's a big deal.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
That's like his thing. He yells and like that's all
this cool stuff. Anyways, Listen, if I had some good
coaches in recent years, marchurstaball Butch Davis. So I think there.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I'm not sure that Florida.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
I think that was Florida Atlantic. They can make this
something at FIU. I don't know how big it can get,
but I did.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Look.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
So they play in Miami Dade County, right, which you
know a lot. It was like a hotbed for high school.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Of course.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
And the town is Westchester where if I you plays
eighty eight percent Latino and Hispanic. Wow, Okay, Pitbull go it. Basically,
this is gonna be his home. He's gonna make this
area his I'm just I think this is just a
brilliant use of marketing on his part and branding. This
is smart. And I'm waiting for you now to step
bo and put the cowherd. Don't you have the amburgers
and beers? Now?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
You know Eastern Washington cowherd field?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
How about is that the blue turf? Is that what
they have up there?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
It's the red turf, red turf.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
I'm sorry, bluest boys.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I donated a small amount to the red turf, which
when it snows, we didn't predict it with turned pink,
which it did didn't work out quite like we can.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
I think you need to put your name on the stadium.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Oh, I know. I am a journalist. I'm a respected journalist.
I don't want to be part of those shenanigans. Yeah,
a lot of rich people out there. There's farmers up
there everywhere that I got a lot of stacks of
cat Shout out to pittfull very smart. Next up Joe Burrow.
He wants to get back to the super Bowl. Remember
he narrowly lost to the Rams a few years ago.
It's so far this season the super Bowl is in
(15:52):
New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
It'll be on Fox. I'm almost certain because I've never
been to New Orleans. I hear it's an amazing looking forward
to going. He wants to go back to the stadium
where he won a national title with LSU instead, it'd
be fun to win it all back in New Orleans.
He'd obviously have a home field advantage down there, being
an LSU guy. I don't know where are you on
the Bengals in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I don't know because it's all health to me. So
you know it's weird. They got rid of Joe Mixon,
good player, they've moved off some of their better players.
But they pay a quarterback, they pay an edge rusher,
they pay Jamar Chase. Why can't they pay for a
second receiver.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Well that's what Miami's doing.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Oh they haven't paid Jamar Chase. Yes, but my takeaway
if you just said we're gonna pay money to these
four Burrow Chase Higgins in the edge rusher, well just
draft it. Well, I mean, it's just funny how like
Philadelphia's got two star receivers and multiple and their tackles
and they pay Jalen Hurts and they paid a safety
and they pay. But it's weird how the salary cap works.
(16:53):
Like some teams feel like San Francisco pays everybody outside
of brock Purty.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Everybody's Jalen Hurts get his deal done? Was it last year?
It feels like forever ago, But he's now like slid
down the Listen about this.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Deebo gets paid, Kittle gets paid, Warner gets tramp Scott paid. Yeah,
but that's just one guy. But it is interesting to me,
is the whole T Higgins thing like I would. I
would figure out ways to if I could have Jamar
Chase and T Higgins for half of my NFL career
at wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
It feels a little top heavy. We laughed at Miami
earlier in the show for their situation paying to a
paying Wattle, paying hill.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Did you notice the footage of Joe Burrow. Dude, that
guy put on minimum ten to fifteen pounds. Look at
the video Joe Burrow. I was looking at him.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
He's kind of jacked.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
He is jacked.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
I mean, I got bigger arms in him. But that's
not saying much, you know, Like you know, I work
on the show Muscles as you know. But yeah, listen Burrow,
He's gonna have a chance to get back. But you
would pay T Higgins top dollar.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I think he's arguably one of the best number two
receivers in the league. So you I mean, if I
have Joe Burrow, I got to need a left tackle
weapons and they got rid of mixing. So it's like,
I don't know their depth chart at tight end, but
it's why can't you keep two receivers Philadelphia's pay Have
they drafted.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Well since Burrow and Chase because.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I think they draft I don't think they draft like
Green Bay, but I think they draft fine.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Yeah, because you need They're just so top heavy. If
if Chase goes down for six games, what are the
Bengals next year? It's like Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
T Higgins is a hard guy. He's going to four
I don't. I mean, he's been consistently better than Brandon
and Ayyuk the last three years.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Consistently when when Chase went down, he's good. I like
the Bengals, I don't. I don't know my AFC team yet.
I keep moving around. But are the Bengals. They're in
your Super Bowl bubble?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Right?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I think I think they're all. I gotta watch them play. Oh, okay.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Final story, Team USA faces Brazil in the quarterfinals. I
think it's coming up in like the next hour or so.
Brazil has been a bit of a Cinderella story, and
Steve King said his team needs to be ready for
their physicality. There's it's been a lot of talk about
different starting lineups, about who just courage decided not to play.
He's starting to get sick of it, pushing back with
the media and saying this whole social media nonsense. That's
(19:10):
a regular season thing where the soap opera can carry
the ratings. Here, we just want to win the damn
gold medal. Now, what's super fascinating is Canada played today
and lost a bit of a stunner to France. France
benched Rudy Gobert, their center. He played three minutes Collin Wow.
So they said that's too big. The two bigs is
(19:30):
just too much. They bench Gobert. I wonder if they
start to slip up. Is Joelle Embiid the fall guy
in that starting lineup, because I mean, who else are
you pulling? I don't think he's gonna pull Curry, who
has been struggling, But Embiid's probably the guy who's most
likely to get benched, just like Gobert was today.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, I don't think we're gonna have to worry about him.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
I'm not against Brazil. But in the next round, that
Serbia team, man, they they're tough.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
We've beaten him twice, I know, and that's the problem.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
It's tough to beat a team three times.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
In what a month?
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Have lebron Adou They had this guy named Yoka Tea.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
It was pretty good he's pretty sure.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
They were down twenty four today. Can I think came
back in one?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Serbia didn't.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Yeah, they were going to smoke by Australia.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
France was crushing candidate.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah, Canada storm back in Frantada. France held on. So
when min Yama in the semi finals, I'll tell.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
You the FOBA rules are different than the NBA rules.
I love goaltending in Foba. Yes, I love it. When
the ball's on the ten, baby, go knock it off.
We need that at the NBA. That's what I said. Yeah,
you know, it's like college football. I prefer the college
football pass interference where it's just like fifteen yards. In
the NFL, you and I our feet could get tangled.
It's a sixty three yard pounds. Yeah yeah. I also
(20:40):
hate the NFL where you fumble the ball out of
the end zone, you lose possession. That's way too punids.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
What about overtime rules college football?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Though nobody can figure out over time. Everybody is sure
they have the exact formula, they're all awful.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
College Football's is all I the guy that's last overtime
in all sports?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Oh, it's you could be an hour long.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
So you're like the twenty five yard line. You're just
scoring left and right, and like everybody's tired. So it's
big place.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I always told you my overtime rule, and nobody likes it.
I wrote about it. The road team always gets first possession.
So if you think about the NFL, I have to
travel because the NFL is all built on parody. The
more you win, the allows hear the draft pick. So it's
not Baseball where most money wins, or NBA most stars win.
(21:27):
The NFL is trying to create parody. Now, college football
isn't best team, better recruiting class. So the road team
gets the ball first, and then from that point first
team scores. And you say, what about the fairness? So
in football, the crowd can absolutely negatively affect a team.
You can struggle hearing, even with a new helmet equipment.
(21:47):
It's harder in the end zone to hear. And that
if I have to do all the traveling once a week,
I have to stay in a hotel. I can't here
in the stadium. The one advantage I get is overtime.
I get the ball first, and if you score, it's over.
It doesn't matter what you score. You score, it's oh.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
No way, that is no. Then you got teams playing
for overtime in the fourth quarter as opposed to try
to win the game.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Well we go to overtime. We gonna tell you who's
not playing for overtime the home team phone team. And
by the way, the road team may not either based
on quarterback play the road team. If the road team's
a defensive team, no they're not.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I just like the.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Equality of opportunity. Both teams get the ball in overtime,
which is what college has a NFL. We saw that
in the Super Bowl. San Frank got it. First kick
the field goal.
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Speaker 1 (23:39):
Basketball Joe l Embiid has had a very, very rough Olympics.
Charles Barkley was on the Paul George Podcast. You know,
he talked about some of the issues Joel Embiid will
have to look in the mirror with I hope this.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Is a week up for Joel this Olympic experience. He
is not played well, and I'm hoping he's like, yo, man,
I got to get in better shape because of me personally.
I think that's one reason he's always injured. I don't
think he's in good enough shape, but I think the
way he's played, which is not well during the Olympic,
(24:15):
should be a wake up call for him, Like, you
know what, I got to get in better shape. I
gotta get healthy because if we don't win the championship
or go deep into the playoffs, it's going to be
because of me.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I agree with Charles, and I do think it's been
a bit of a revelation that he can't just blame
James Harden and Ben Simmons and Tobias Harris. A lot
of it is Embiid clogging up the offense. And Nick
Wright stopped by earlier and we talked about this. I said,
is it time now? He's not Jokic, he's not Yannis,
he's not a d We have to drop him out
(24:49):
of that class.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
I think everything you said there, unfortunately is fair because listen,
I have been an Embiid fan. I have picked the
Sixers a couple times to make.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
The NBA finals.
Speaker 9 (25:02):
You know, I admit my You know if I advice
is I admit them.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
I think they're they're GM.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
In addition to being a pal of mine, I think
is one of the sharpest savviest minds in basketball. So
I root for I root for Daryl, I root for
the Sixers to a degree.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
But all those.
Speaker 9 (25:18):
Critiques I feel have been crystallized in this Olympic run.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
Yes, which is he isn't in great shape.
Speaker 9 (25:26):
Now part of that is you know, circular, which is
he gets hurt so he can't be you know, he
can't do the conditioning he needs to do, so then
he's out of shape. But then that leads to more injuries,
and so you wonder is that ever going to get fixed.
I thought some of the quotes he gave were really unfortunate.
(25:47):
What the stuff he said about you know, Lebron and
Durant and those guys. It's like, those are your teammates.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
For these few weeks. That to me is odd.
Speaker 9 (25:56):
And the fact that when they put this Olympic team together,
Embeied obviously not born in the States, and then theoretically
was going to play for France.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
And then we ended up getting it. It was a
huge coup.
Speaker 9 (26:09):
It was supposed to be the cheat code for this
Olympic team, that we're going to have the size, the rebounding,
the defense to compete with anybody, when we weren't necessarily
going to have that on this roster without it, and
instead he's been one of the least reliable worst players.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
On the team.
Speaker 9 (26:28):
And it is to me, I think people and folks
can roll their eyes at me when I say this,
but I just think the data is, the facts are
out there from watching the games. Prematurely disdowngraded Lebron in
his stature in the league because they're like, he's in
year twenty he's in year twenty one. He's almost forty
years old. And when Lebron is healthy, we're seeing it
(26:51):
right now, he's still one of the five best players alive.
And I think they prematurely upgraded Embiid without a single
great playoff run, which we've asked for from every star ever,
even if you don't win the championship, just a great
start to finish playoff run, because he is such a
dominant regular season player, but the fact that the team
(27:14):
is flatley better without him playing in these Olympics is
a really tough argument to pull against if you still
want to say he's one of the four best players
in the world.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Finally, I think I said this earlier this week. Jerry Jones,
owner of the Cowboys, is not terrified of never winning
another Super Bowl. He's got three. He's terrified of irrelevance
and Dak Prescott makes you relevant, and Dak's gonna get
(27:46):
his money. It's a weak college quarterback class. I've already
had two executives in the league tell me they are
interested in Dak. He's gonna get his money. That's my
take is Jerry is, you know, as predictable as you
know the Morning Sun. Is that he drafted him, he
found him. I mean, during the anthem controversies, Dak was there.
(28:09):
He's great at the podium. He keeps you relevant. I
think Dak's gonna get sixty five million. Do you think
I'm nuts?
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Don't you so sixty That part's correct?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
No, I don't.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
I totally agree with your first point, and if I can,
I'm gonna steal a line from a mutual friend of ours,
Kevin Clark, and congrats to Kevin and his upward success
and everything he's doing. He said on his podcast or
on some outlet a couple weeks ago that if someone
came to Jerry Jones and said, I guarantee you you
(28:41):
win the Super Bowl this year, and all you have
to give me is that you will never do a
press conference again, he wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Take the trick. And I was like, oh, I agree
with that take.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
I think that is correct that if Jerry's like guaranteed
Genie rub on the you know the crystal. I'm screwing
this up. The genies come out of lamp.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
They you have three there.
Speaker 9 (29:04):
It is I guarantee you win the super Bowl, but
you have to cancel your weekly radio hit and you
never do a present gun to be like now, I'll
roll the dice. So I agree with that part of it.
Where I disagree is this, if they were gonna pay Dak,
they'd have paid Dak. Had they paid Dak, it would
be easier to pay ceed Lamb. They might have been
more active in free agency. I think that they are
(29:27):
terrified of being locked into a ceiling with Dak Prescott.
And I think you're right about the money. Everyone that's saying,
oh my god, Dak could get fifty seven fifty eight million,
that is not accurate. It is a minimum of sixty
It is probably sixty.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Five million dollars a year.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
And I don't think the Cowboys are gonna pay it
because if they would have, if they were going to,
they would have.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
So I think Dak's gonna.
Speaker 9 (29:52):
Play out this year and then become a thirty one
year old franchise quarterback with a true free and clear
free agency.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
And I've been saying it I will keep saying it.
Speaker 9 (30:03):
I really think Dak Prescott Bill Belichick package deal to
the New York Giants a year from now is going
to happen, and I think Bill gets to end where
he started. I think the Giants get to rebrand entirely
and steal the Cowboys quarterback and Dak gets something like
three years, two hundred million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
And that's where this thing ends up going.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
But the biggest quarterback story today is that the Minnesota
Vikings have released their first depth chart and Sam Donald
convincingly beat out JA J. McCarthy, the heralded Michigan quarterback
who is in a battle with Nick Mullins for the backup. So,
(30:49):
Sam Donald, this is his first great coach, his best
offensive weaponry Sam Darnold. Now, I will say J Mack
last week and tomorrow's headlines today, he did his NFC
predictions and you had Minnesota as a wild card team.
(31:09):
I don't. But does that mean Donald, like Baker Mayfield,
has a little bit like a Geno Smith, a little
bit of a rebirth.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Yeah, I'm one hundred percent with you. Look what O'Connell
did with those quarterbacks last year. It was like Josh
Dobbs and Jaren Hall, and now you had Aaron Jones
to the running backom. Remember they had no running back
last year. Madison was hurt. They were going with randoms.
I think this Viking team's gonna be spicy. I mean
that division's very good, right, Lions Packers.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Only one really only one really good defense, New Chicago's
so you listen. We've seen Geno Smith, who was a
complete bust. I mean, Donald had highlights. Gino is a
buff up. Seattle got to the playoffs. I mean Baker
Mayfield rams briefly Tampa rebirth. So it's in a sport
(31:57):
where eight teams every year desperate at quarter back. Sam
Darnold has a very good year. Let's say wins nine games,
they don't make the playoffs, but he throws for thirty
eight hundred yards, twenty six touchdowns, eight nine picks, sixty
two to sixty three. He'll get a Baker contract somewhere.
It's not a very good college quarterback draft. I think
(32:17):
he's gonna get a contract.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
And that might be going a little far. I mean,
Baker got him to the playoffs, and I'd like, didn't
he have the best season of his kill.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
We have Minnesota getting to the playoffs, so that tells
me Sam's gonna get it. They're not getting to the
playoffs because of their defense.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Well, Flores is known for turning things around. He's got
some players on the defense are good. Gosh, the NFL
season can't get here soon enough. So many new like
the Vikings to me are like a top seven interesting
team because we're all in on O'Connell. We both know
somebody who's super close to them. Well, was that his wedding?
And like, come on, you root for the Jets.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I'm supposed to be above that as a hardened, respected journalist.
It's gonna be hard for me to watch Viking games
and not root for my guy, Sammy, Sammy, dam Med,
it's gonna be hard for me. See you tomorrow.
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