August 19, 2024 • 44 mins
Former Texas Longhorn Vince Young joins the show to talk about his former team and his thoughts on the upcoming season
Cris Collinsworth also joins The Herd to talk about Andy Reid, the start of the NFL season and more
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go, it's our three. Has the show not
flown by the day on a Monday, Jmac it is
flying by five minutes, vinch Young. This is the year
for the Texas Longhorns. We had Urban Meyer on last
week breaking down the Big Ten. Texas now moves into
the SEC from the Big twelve. It's a it's just
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a different conference entirely one Big twelve very offensive driven
SEC got offense, but it's more about defense. Every week
you're looking up at somebody that cane. Even the basketball
schools Kentucky compla so young in five minutes, Chris Collins
wor stop by today. So I've been on this for
years now. The Steelers can't get their own line right.
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They draft and developed, well, they can't get their own
line right. This weekend. It is bad. Russell Wilson Justin
Field is bad. So we saw Belichick, Andy Reid, Pete
Carroll get fired. I think it's fair if this thing
gets ugly to start worrying about Mike Tomlin and Pittsburgh.
I mean, Russell Wilson had five drives and one first down.
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Pass protection was awful. He and Justin Fields and their
mobile ten quarterback hits four sacks. And these guys run well,
they can't run the football now, they've tried that the
last several years. Last year in middle of the pack.
So in the last five years, Pittsburgh is thirtieth, thirtieth
in total yards per game, below Carolina, below teams dysfunctional
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teams like the Raiders in Washington. Only the Jets and
Giants are worse. And it doesn't matter matter if it's
old Big Ben, young, Kenny Pickett, Mason Rudolph, doesn't matter.
And now these guys, two mobile guys, they can't move
the ball past the Texan's terrible. And by the way,
Russell Wilson and Justin Fields the last two years are
the most sacked quarterbacks in the league. So if you're
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wondering why Justin Fields looks skittish and Russell is Captain
check down this weekend. They don't want to get hit.
Would you want to get hit if the last couple
of years you're the most sacked guy in the league.
I wouldn't want to get hit either. And so when
you watch this kind of a neptitude on one side
of the ball, it's coaching. I'll tell you why. Because
organizations the last ten years, like Washington, the ownership was bad.
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They couldn't draft and develop. That's just a broken franchise.
The Raiders have felt like a broken franchise. I would
say that Jets and the Giants right now. Jets have
some players, let's not you know, let's not be dishonest
about that. They got some dudes, but they kind of
feel like a broken franchise. Pittsburgh doesn't. Pittsburgh drafts one well,
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really well, they develop well, they have excellent ownership. They're
not the biggest spenders, but they're not cheap. And yet
defensively they're always elite. Yet they're completely utterly inept on
one side of the ball. That's on the head coach.
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He's run through coordinators, he's run through quarterbacks. That's on
Mike Tomlin. They are awful when a business is not broken,
does many things fundamentally well. And you have a department
of the business. You know, maybe the sales part of
your business is lousy, but the marketing's good, the engineering
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is good. Well, then you have to go as the CEO.
You got to go to the sales manager and replace
the sales manager because everything else is humming at the company.
Like Pittsburgh does everything well. They draft, they develop, free agency,
they're smart, it's stable. They are just in nept offensively
young old Mason Rudolph. Doesn't matter who the quarterback is.
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Justin Fields and Russell Wilson are running for their lives.
So this is Mike Tomlin's culture. It's his locker room,
it's his offensive coordinator, it's his responsibility. And Tomlin acknowledged
it's not good on that side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
It's somewhat of an incomplete study because you just don't
get a chance to see him operate or us operate,
or us established rhythm and personality when you're not winning
possession downs and we weren't, you know, the first three
or so a series of the game. It was, you know,
three and out, and that's you're not gonna get an
opportunity to establish rhythm or or or played the way
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that you would like as an individual or a collective.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
We didn't do a good enough job of protecting the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
We got to do a better job in past protection
than we did, not only in possession downs, but just
in general. And I was really upfront with the group
about it. In that regard, that can't be a problem
for us. We got to be better than we were
tonight in that area.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
They haven't been good for like seven years in that
area and they can't produce a rhythm now last year,
the year before, the year before again. I think Tom
would be a great broadcaster. I don't think he's a
bad coach. But we're running Andy Reid out of Philly
and Pete Carroll out of the NFL and Belichick out
of New England. This is the coach's responsibility. How many
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OC's we've had in the last seven years, I mean,
they draft picks. This is an organization like Green Bay
that drafts and develops really, really well. It's on Mike
and it will be on Steve Sarkejhan. If the Texas
Longhorns don't get into the playoff and win some games,
and let's talk Longhorn football with Vince Young, a college
football Hall of Famer who was thirty and two as
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the Texas starting quarterback thirty one nineteen as an NFL quarterback.
I was saying this last week when I knew you
were going to be on the show Monday, I said,
you were the greatest high school football player I've ever seen.
I used to you, it doesn't even look I said,
it looks like taking a very good NFL player and
putting him in a good high school league. So you were,
and then you took Texas to that went over Michigan
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and the rose Ball. You come back the following year.
We actually have high school video. It doesn't look like
you're a high schooler. But what's interesting, I want to
talk about your college career. I was at the USC
Texas game, Reggie Bush. You that is the greatest atmosphere
and the greatest game I've ever seen. It was, and
I sat among Texas fans and they were so excited
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because us he was rolling at that point. Yes, it's
all the games you've ever played, high school, college and pro.
Where does that USC natty rink?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
That's definitely top five for sure, because of like what
you just said. You got guys like Reggie Bush, Matt Lioner,
I mean the names.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Go on, Roger Clemens on the sideline, Roger Clemens.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
I mean we had a good time. Ronnie Lock I
was happy, happy to meet him. Oh so and Pete Carroll,
which I'm a big fan of. Yeah, players coach, and
like you said, I hate to see that he was
going at the NFL, which he should be coaching. But
it was this tremendous from start to finish. Even when
we was going to the Disneyland. It was fun just
being high in this atmosphere. But those guys were the
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best team and we wanted to play them. And if
you noticed what I said last year, the year before
when I was played Michigan, I was like, we'll be bad, ye,
And we went to work that whole summer and we
got prepared to try to get to that national championship.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
By the way, the Michigan game was wild as well. People,
it was crazy. That's what the beginning. When the rose
ball sort of broke away from tradition and you had
Texas playing in a rose ball, I was like, I'm
good with it. I'm good. Yeah, it is special. So
we talked about this with Texas. I think college football
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has two or three only two or three what I
would call glamour programs, USC and Texas top of the list.
Notre Dame still viewed academically. Miami I always felt had
a little bit of a glamour to it. Big city
Texas football doesn't feel like Norman, Oklahoma. It doesn't feel
like it's big city when you were in college and
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you were a star, it is. Did it come? Did
it compare to some of your NFL days because you
played in a smaller NFL city. It just feels like
almost a pro team.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's why you you know, you
noticed that Oklahoma, Oakland, they was trying to come to
Texas or San Antonios between Santoine and Austin, but it
didn't happen because nobody can compete with the University of Texas. So,
you know, when I was there, it was tough, but
thank god I had guys like Chris Sims there to
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kind of follow him his day to day routines. How
to carry yourself as a quarterback on campus, going to classes,
these type of things, how to be a quarterback at
the university of Texas, which is not easy.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
But at the same time, I had fun.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
I learned a lot and I do a lot of
respect to coach Brown for redshirting me, to see that,
you know, traveling with team on the way games and
stuff like that, holding a clipboard writing down the plays.
I mean, all that type of thing. Those things made
me more mature as a young man.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
You know, these days it's very hard to get somebody
that's as good as you. In high school, it would
be virtually impossible to ask him to back up like
it was hard. Oh, I know, because you were a
you were the most dominant Texas high school football player
probably ever. Do you worry that the transfer portal kids
now quarterbacks, they want a player, they'll just transfer and
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you had to set for a year and grow up
and it was hard. We're not going to see a
lot of that. Does that worry at all?
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Yeah, in the way, I think it's not good because
the world doesn't go like that. You can't just tell
people that you want to just leave up and like that.
Even in a five tonne job, you can't. You got
to still put in two week notice before you leave.
So that's going to be a mentally challenge for all younger,
younger players, you know, especially at the quarterback position. I
feel like, you know, what Archie Manny is doing right now,
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it's great.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It's great for him.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
You know, it's the NFL is not going nowhere, and
for you to just sit back, get ahead in your books,
learn the plays, learn the game, learn the way, how
to travel, how to be a leader, learn these things
which he has like the best people in the world.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
To teach him that, from Peyton to Elie.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
And his father and as well as myself, you know,
talking to him every day when I'm around campus. So
I feel like what he's doing right now is going
to have him really prepared to play when it's just
his time.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
So Sark brought you in as a special assistant, And
first of all, what does that What do you do
with Texas?
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Well, I'm just I've let an assistant at AD So
I just basically, you know, help with recruiting, raising money
for funds and things like that. Just being visible on campus,
being a big brother for the younger guys and you know,
going to speak to the you know, different classes and
things like that. Just being an ambassador for the university.
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So It's been real fun. You know, Earl Campbell can't
do it as much as he could like he used to.
So learning from him throughout the years and doing some
things to help, you know, put make sure our university
is still on the map in the right way.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So I said, J Mack loves quinn Ewers, and I've
said I don't doubt the talent. He's a little loose.
To me, he can be a little loose and so
much when you get into these big games. This is
not the Big twelve anymore. You can't make those mistakes
in the SEC. The defenses are better, the games will
be closer. Yes, I mean Texas basically shows up outside
of Oklahoma. You have better players than everybody. Well, now
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it's LSU, Now it's Georgia, now it's Bama. You can't
make those big picks in the SEC.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Do you think quinn Ewers can maintain his talent? That
he's got a whip?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But and and but do you do you think he's matured?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yes? I think he has.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I think that's one of the biggest things that myself
as well as Coach Stark has seen through uh just
throughout this summer to now his maturity level is it's
took to a whole nother level as well as his
leadership role. And that's pretty good for him because he's
more as a veteran, he has more game reps underneath
his belt. So just to see him become a leader,
I think he could. I think he could be more
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voiceable to speak more. A little bit, yeah, a little
bit more. But overall, overall, his talent, the smartness of
a game, the IQ of his game is starting to
take off.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
So I'm looking forward to a good year for him.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
The main thing is, like what you just said, he
got to understand every week is going to be a
tough game. And also it's gonna be your first year
in the SEC, So what legacy you want to leave
that team?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
This year got to be so.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
So I've been a fan of Sark forever. He had
some personal struggles, he got over those. He's a tremendous coach.
He's a great recruiter. I think he fits Texas because
I've always thought Texas is the only kind of Big
twelve school. It's got. It feels a little Pac twelve.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
It's kind of cool, right.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Like a lot of college towns aren't cool. Austin feels
like kind of a cool. Tasks got a little I
know for years the Pac twelve wanted to bring Texas in,
and Texas that no thanks. What is when you look
at Sark and you know Sark, what does he do best?
What do you really like about his coaching style?
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Well, you just hit to know he'd been through everything
from personal things that he had in his life as
well as coaching things as well. At USC then he
also was with Nick Saban underneath the brand as well,
so he's seen a lot. So the way he's building
out the school is what exactly what ut is is bonding,
you know, carrying about each other, taking care of your responsibility,
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treating you like a young man. So to see that
chemistry is picking up. The team is going to play
better because when we was playing there, Coach Brown was
big on that chemistry. Protect each other, Uh, you know,
be go to class, do what you have to do,
your responsibilities.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
And to see that now Coach Stark.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Has brought that back into our school and now you
see we're starting to get into that rhythm back to winning.
You know, being at the playoffs this year. Tough loss,
but you know the chemistry to get there. Now we
have that identity that we know who we are. Now
we know when we can there on this football field,
what we need to do to get back to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Is it harder, like if you're some of these college
towns will be honest for boring?
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And I've said this about USC, it's a distracting city.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Oh yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Is it harder in Austin? This town doesn't go to
bed at seven forty five?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Is it harder sometimes to be more focused as an athlete?
It's it's beautiful people, it's a music scene, great food
in Austin. It's like the truck scene, the food truck scene,
like it's up till midnight every night. It's not your
typical college town. Same with Miami, same with USC. I've
seen these programs get distracted. Is that still an issue
with SARK? Do you have to preach that a lot?
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah, that's going to fall back on Quinn. That's Quinn
and the rest of the leaders on the football team.
If you can't stay your butt at home and what's
more important than graduating and win in the national championship,
then you do need to transferring into transfer and partal
because that's not the type of players that we're producing
at the Universe of Texas. We want to know that
I can con depend on my man on my right
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and my man on my left, and that's the main thing.
So I hope Quinn and I know coach is saying that,
the coaching staff is saying that. So it has to
go down to the leaders. And that was one of
the things that we did when we was there. We
had guys like Michael huff why right, We had all
the leaders, all the tight end most gave. We had
leaders trickling everything that Mac Brown was telling us as
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leaders to get, make sure we tell it to our team.
So Quinn and the rest of his guys as leaders, God,
be like, man, if you can't understand what's the bigger
picture than what we're doing, because you need to go
out and party, then you don't need to be here.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
And that's for him to go tell.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
His coach start that this guy needs to be out
off our team because he had distraction.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
So if you go back and I've talked to Michael Vick,
I've talked to all sorts of players about this, have
you had a winning record. Obviously you got to the
playoffs in your NFL career. Now that you have perspective,
you were young, you were a star, you got paid,
you were And if you look back at your NFL
career and say, hey, I could just change one thing,
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and again, hindsight's twenty twenty. We're all geniuses, right, But
if you can change anything in your NFL career, because
it wasn't that you weren't productive, that wasn't it.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
What would it be one thing?
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Uh, probably just a little bit more working harder, a
little harder, staying a little bit longer. You know, things
like that, you know, understanding you're a professional, that this
organization put invested a lot of money into you.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
So and making sure I have.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
My foundation right off the field, foundation things so you
can focus on playing the game. So those type of
things I say so when I speak to kids now,
like make sure you got the right people in your
corner that's gonna don't want nothing from you but to
see you prosper and be successful. Right, make sure you
have those people around you. So I'll tell people that
I that I'll do. I'll change that for myself.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
So if you run into Matt Leiner in the hallway,
he works here at Fox. What are your conversations?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Like, what a big guy? How's the golf game?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
He didn't want to talk the game.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
No, you know he gets enough of that already.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
But when you were in that game, did you realize
how great of a game it was? Even as a player?
Did you understand remember the stealth bomber flew over for.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
The end exactly Nation anthem huge, she sung her.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
But off Reggie Bush, the weird lateral. Yes, when you
were in a game like that, had you ever been
in a game that you knew, well, this is a classic,
this is going to be one of the great games
ever talked about. Did you sense it during the game?
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Well?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I sensed it at the heisman. Actually, you know, I
was pretty upset that I lost that heisman. But going
up to the game, the hype of it it was
something I've never seen before, So even I was nervous.
I was a little scared. We're walking into this game.
What you know, what what do I need to do
to make the Longhorn successful? So, you know, a lot
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of praying, a lot of X to work, a lot
of extra film work with coach Greg Davis, I'll take
it to the next level because I didn't want to
embarrass not only US as a university, but myself. So
it was, it was. It was a big game, and
I was definitely afraid.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
It was it's an old timer, and uh yeah that
I can remember sitting in the Texas section and just
I love the Texas fans. They weren't obnoxious. I think
we all realized in that game. Everybody's sitting there realized, oh,
this is special. It was one of them. It was
a perfectly beautiful night and what was it was gorgeous
night and the Texas and USC colors as the sun
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went down, it was like the whole stadium was like
burnt orange and gold and carbon. It was just stunning. Yes,
a beautiful, beautiful night, wonderful moment. Okay, so this is now.
You start looking at that Texas schedule. There's a Georgia
game if I recall, Yes, Okay, let's say Texas makes
a playoff and Texas wins a game in the playoff,
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but they don't win a second game, how's it going
to land in Texas.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
It's not gonna sit Well, we're gonna still be happy.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
We're you know, just to be a team that make
get back going like it's been a while since we've
been doing the things that we've been doing.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
So as a.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Fan and as an alumni, we're excited with the direction
that we're going in. So the main thing is did
we learn from our last year from that game playing
against Washington?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
In that game, did we learned from that?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
And I know, I know the players that was a
sick feeling for them because you was a game You
was what a field goal and a couple of points
away from winning that game. So the main thing is
how your mentality is right now. That's why I said,
I feel like Quinn has matured a little bit because
of that game, So now he understands it's no more
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turning back. We have to we have to continue to
be the face of this new you know, twelve team playoff.
We have to finish and I feel like they can
do it. With the coaching staff as well at the
players that we have, I feel like they can do it.
It's all about the mindset. We were just talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Vin Young, an all time great NFL offensive rookie of
the year thirty one and nineteen in the NFL and
one of the faces of the great Texas Longhorns program.
Well run top to bottom. Great to meet you, Great
to see you. Oh, by the way, if you're in
Austin sixteen years running, I've been to it a couple
of times. Great best steakhouse in Austin. It's a steakhouse.
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It's really good.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
So yeah, if you come and say that Georgia game,
you better reserve it now.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
That's gonna be the game that Oregon plays. Ohio State
and Eugene and Georgia Texas Market down are the two
college football games of note, and there's gonna be a
lot of good ones, but those are great.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Yeah, that's gonna be a big one, especially in doubt
in the Michigan game too. It's gonna be another one
we've got. So that's going to help their identity.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Those are identity changing games exactly. You just got to
win those big games.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
It's great to see you, becose, Good.
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Speaker 7 (21:30):
I almost thought you were gonna shed a tear during
the Texas USC discussion.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
That one hurts you hunt. That was such a game.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Oh my god, I know on the USC was down
two corners and they couldn't get fourth down in inches
and lend A White got stopped. I'm not gonna blame anybody.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Which is yeah, I don't ever mention it when I
see liner. All right, let's get started here. First up,
Caitlin Clark colin record setting performance in the Fevers win
over the Seattle Storm on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
But check out this moment.
Speaker 7 (22:01):
Okay, So number four on Seattle is Skyler Diggan Smith,
who was a big deal at Notre Dame.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
She was super popular and for whatever.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
Reason, I guess she got irked by Clark egging on
the crowd. Look at this she speeds up bumps into
Clark and then one of the Seattle coaches is.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Like, referees, look, Kaitlin Clark pushed her.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
Like lobbying for another technical on Caitlin Clark Colin. I
know people get upset when the word jealousy is thrown around.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Oh there's there's some petty in this here.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
Diggins is a real She was a really strong player,
super popular, you know, big on social media, and like
Kateln Clark has taken over this league now taking it over,
and I'm just telling you the fever are coming.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
I know that we were hurt that she wasn't on
the Olympic team, but.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
That rest, she looks totally rejuvenated and she's playing at
a different pace yesterday yep, going up and down the court, layups,
fast break.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Like, I'm just saying, watch out for the fever.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
This team is gonna be a tough out in the playoffs,
and I know people will like, just be quiet, stop,
you guys have to be watching these games.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
I watched this game. Yeah, like they're going after Clark.
They're angry at her.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
The coaches were jostling at the end of the game
because the Seattle coach is so upset with Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
The people don't like her. I just don't get it
going well.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I think this this league has always had been a
little insular, feel like they've been ignored. But in fairness,
they don't make any money and she's the first rock star.
They've had good players, they don't have needle movers, and
so you know she's they have kind of a club.
Remember Bryce Harper, the crap he got for three years. Yeah,
baseball is very insulur. We don't need you, we don't
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care if we're not football. There's a way to play
the game. Bryce Harper is like, nah, you guys have
some fun, and he had teammates pushed back on him.
It's the baseball and WNBA feel like they're a little precious.
You know, there's a way to play the game. It's like, no, bro,
it's all about money.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
So I was starting to move away from that crowd, right, well,
do not be that guy.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Get precious, and you know you don't get us. You
don't get in a opinion, why NFL is king and
why the NBA just got a seven billion dollar annual deal.
Come on, join the club. It's fun.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
And didn't you do a segment earlier about baseball being
having some questions next summer. There's no Euros, right, there's
no COPA, there's no Olympics. W NBA, if they play
their cards right, can really load up the schedule in
summer months with don't front load.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
The schedule like they did this year.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
No, they they it's been a distracting summer. We got
we got, you know, white houses up for grabs, COPA, Euros.
Uh wait until that all moves aside for the WNBA.
You know, we always talk about what's the the NFL,
the NBA, baseball hockey or the four big professional leagues
UFC field okare, come on, that hits soccer, mL as Okay,
(24:50):
WNBA by next summer may join that. It's been a
professional league, but I mean, will be a revenue producing
league that can that can stand on its own feet.
I'm telling you it's gonna explode next year.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Whn's college basketball. They got juju here at us.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
And the advantage is women's players. It's a huge advantage
the WNBA draft. You know, the top eight players, they
all played in college for four years at UConn or
South Carolina or Baylor, Stanford NBA Draft. I'm like, what league,
what country?
Speaker 8 (25:19):
What?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
What? What I mean? I don't know who the players are?
Speaker 6 (25:22):
All right, this next story, this is a tough one.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
Colin so Tua Tunavailoa has flourished over the last.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Two seasons with Mike mcdanielis as a head coach.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Before that, though, he had Brian Flores, who has, you know,
a bit of a reputation, is a tough guy to
play for. Well, Tua was asked about the difference between
the two coaches. He had like that pregnant pause, and
then he said, what if you woke up every morning
and were told that you suck at what you do
and that somebody else should come in and tell you, dude,
you're not the best fit for this. How would it
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make you feel after listening to that every day? And
that's what he said, Brian Flores was treating him like
and that is not good at all.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Well, that's why Brian Flores is not a head coach.
It's not because he can't coach. He turned the Dolphins
or remember that rookie year they got blown out by
Baltimore early by week eight. You're like special teams in defense,
totally different, but he was a Belichick guy. They come
in there, they're harsh, they're loud, And this is why
Brian Flores is not a head coach. It's not that
he lacks the talent, because if you go back and
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look what he did in two years in Miami, you
could see his footprint on that team. That defense and
those special teams were sensational.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
But relationships matter and he's very poor at that.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And that's not Maybe league's never been more collaborative. Belichick's
not very collaborative. The New England guys aren't very collaborative.
Speaker 7 (26:43):
And you know, we'll see what happened with flora is
in Minnesota, because there's a world where Minnesota's good offensively.
We know with O'Connell and Flores gets that defense all
fired up. What if they make the playoffs, does Flores
start to get head coaching looks?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Next week? Yeah, I think you'll get a second one
because I think Demko Ryans is gonna flourish in Houston
and people will go, Okay, if you get the right
defensive coach. Brian is too Brian Flores is too good
not to get a second chance. I think he's too
good we'll see.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
It was a really ugly end in Miami.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Now Two is coming out and saying this, why would
you tell your rookie quarterback that he sucks every day?
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Now? I don't think Two is exaggerating. He doesn't seem
like that kind of guy. But I'm glad that two
has turned it around.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I'll just say that.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
And I'm not a Dolphins guy. You know.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I'm a Jets fan.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
I don't like the dozens.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I think we root for people on this show.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
I like you. I love Mike McDaniel, big fan. Final story,
and we touched on this earlier, but I know you're
hot for it. You love it.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Mike Tyson and Jake Paul went at it over the weekend,
a little posturing.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
We now have sound here, so things got very heated.
They took jabs.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
Here's a listen. There's a lot of bleeped out stuff,
but we gave you what we could. Here's the best stuff.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
We got a YouTuber fighting the greatest fighter that having the.
Speaker 9 (28:00):
Every time every time these fighters sit across for me
and it's YouTubers, Disney Channel all that, and then you
end up on the canvas and you'll see it's gonna
be no different here.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I promise you that.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
You know what Jake Paul, Jake falls like twenty five
years younger than this guy.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Well, there's no I think come on, first two rounds
to Tyson. After that it's all Jake Paul.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Well, assuming it goes beyond too hard.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Well, I just don't think. I mean Tyson had a
health scare late fifties.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
Yeah, he's you know, the stuff he's been putting in
his body for the I mean he's got Come.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
On, I don't think Jake Paul's entire life has been
blueberries and candalope in the morning. And I think he's
probably had a He's probably had a good time in
his life.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
I don't know you should we wager? Is this a
fight you'd wager on?
Speaker 10 (28:48):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Because it's well, it's I just this made me feel
it was scripted, this whole thing. They're smiling as they
do it.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
It's like big marketing play for both sides.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I'm sure that you listen, it'll probably I'll be honest,
I'm not sure if it'll get me. I'm a Netflix guy.
I watch a lot of I watched Netflix all weekend.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
Did you check out Emily in Paris. The new season just.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Started, and Vince Vaughn has a new series. I'm gonna watch.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Oh yeah, another guy in the South Bay. Nice guy,
nice gentleman.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
See, so I'm gonna watch that. My wife just started
watching the Vince Vaughn series. She got a couple episodes,
and she said, it's good, you liked it.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
What about the Apple TV show with Jake Diyllonhall presumed innocent.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I love the movie. I don't need to watch the series.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Well, you can tell me, Jay, you got to check
the show out if there was a I just like,
I offer you something good and you're like, eh.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
No, and told me. She goes, oh, it's great, and
I'm like, I love the movie. I don't need to
see I love the movie.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Okay, well let me give you one for your flight
Ballers The Rock. I don't want to I just started
rewatching that is amazing good.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I'm not really into that stuff. I don't watch a
lot of sports. I read sports books. I watch on
sports because I'm watching games all day. Yeah yeah, but
I read sport you know, I O'Connor, Jeff Benedict, Armin Katain.
If you come out with the sports book, I'll read it.
I like that, but I for television streaming docs, I
like nonsports.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
J Mack of the news, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
The Herd Line News and the show today just flies by.
Now last Monday you were off vacationing, and so the
show really flew by. But now this week, it's a
little clunkier today, but nonetheless it is moving at warp speed,
and I really like that. So Chris Collinsworth, do you
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know he's won seventeen Sports Emmys? Is that right? Sports
Broadcaster Hall of Fame? And that's a lot of sports Emmys. Really,
so he's better than me at football and the broadcasting.
That's so Chris collins Worth PFF owns that thing is
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Speaker 8 (31:03):
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Speaker 1 (31:31):
Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Chris
Collins Verse seventeen Sports Emmys. I'm old enough to remember
Bengals Florida Gator. That lanky guy could run now pff.
As well, man, you've had a career, You have really
had a career. The you know, I look at the
NFL and it feels like over the last eight to
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ten years you played in an NFL where receivers, the headhunters,
they could grab you. It was not very friendly to offense.
The league is completely pivoted now where you know, and
I think it's the right for safety. I think it's
the right space. So Raven's Chiefs Week one, that's your
first matchup. I said, if Andy Reid wins three straight,
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we're gonna have to have real conversations about best football
coach ever Walsh Belichick because he's doing it now without
the receiving corps. How do you view historically, and I
know this stuff. You have knowledge of it, and it
matters to you. How do you view Andy Reid? Is
he our best coach in the last decade? Could he
(32:38):
end up being the best coach ever?
Speaker 10 (32:42):
Maybe? Maybe he was. He has been unbelievable, And I
tell you he was so far ahead of the curve
when it came to throwing the ball, like sixty percent
of the time. I mean, I can remember having conversations
with him like are you crazy? Like what are you doing?
Why aren't you balancing out run pass? Everybody talks about it.
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Everybody in Philadelphia was mad about it. Everybody, all the experts,
myself included, like, that's crazy sixty percent throwing the football
and how can you do this? And you're never going
to win a Super Bowl? And Dad, and all you
needed was just a little bit better player at quarterback.
He ends up getting a great one. But he, I
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tell you he is for somebody my age. He's still
so hip with the players. I mean he lets them
literally go out and goof around like they're in pe
class and dream up plays, especially down in the red zone,
and they're having a blast. They're having fun, they're joking, laughing,
(33:47):
goofing around and then they bring them back to him
and he goes, well, okay, I got to do a
little bit of this. And then they'll run it, you know,
three or four times in practice during the year, and
they'll tweak it and then a couple of them will
come out of it. But you can see the literal
joy on their faces when one of their plays that
they dreamt up scores a touchdown in a game. And
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so he's engaging with these players on so many different
levels that it's fun to watch them practice, it's fun
to watch him play the games, and it's fun to
watch them interact with Andy Reid because he's still cool.
He's still cool.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, you know Chris so much. We forget for quarterbacks. Occasionally,
maybe once a decade you'll get an l Way or
an Andrew Luck who are going to blow through roadblocks
and obstacles. But situationally, in fit is so valuable, not
just the football players, to all young people. The right
college you choose, it's not that it doesn't have to
be princeed, and it can be the right fit. You're
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close to your mom and dad. I look at bon
Nix and Peyton and Chris, I see breeze. I mean
this kid seven drives scored on six. I think you
can tell. I know it's preseason, Chris, but I'm watching it.
I don't know. That looks like, oh, they found their guy.
I know I'm being hyper here, but I think it
looks like it works right now.
Speaker 10 (35:09):
Yeah, I don't think you're being You're going too crazy
on it. And the reason why O Nicks was the
one guy I thought was going to be the upset choice.
I thought he was going to go fourth in the
draft because fourth as the quarterback, because of the fact
that when you watched him play in college, he was
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a quick release guy. The hardest thing to drill into
these young quarterbacks heads is that you have two and
a half seconds to throw the ball. I mean they
are used to Jaden Daniels, Caleb Williams, Drake May. They're
used to having four or five and they're athletics, so
they can buy six seven seconds and run around. When
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you play in the NFL, if I were a head coach,
I would sit behind my quarterback with a foghorn when
it got the two and a half seconds, I would
destroy his ear drums because that's when you're going to
get hit in the back of the head of the NFL.
Bo Nicks played his college football getting rid of the
ball on time, getting rid of the ball on time.
(36:16):
He didn't put up some of the gaudy deep ball
numbers that these guys did, but he played like it
was an NFL game, and that's why you're seeing him
have this early success.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Caleb Williams, I watched every snap at USC that mattered.
The criticism, and I think it's just is that he
can be a little ad libby. And I've argued Mahomes
has gotten better without Tyreek Hill. It's forced him to
be more efficient, get rid of the ball, quicker. You
don't get the lollipop throws, Caleb's going to make those.
I watched him, you know, this weekend, and I'm like, yeah,
(36:47):
he he likes to take off. Is that a fair criticism?
Are you a little concerned with sometimes your greatest gift
becomes a burden.
Speaker 10 (36:57):
I think it happened to Justin Fields a little bit.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (37:00):
You know, your whole life, the best option has always
been to take off and run. I mean, you're a
better athlete. You're a better athlete on the basketball floor,
on the baseball field. On the football field, you're always
a better athlete. So if you took off and ran,
that was always going to work. Now you're in the
National Football League. Now there are athletes that are playing
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on the edge and that are playing cornerbacks and safeties
that are rushing you, and they're as good, if not better,
athletes than you are. So now it comes to the
hard part. Now you have to stand in there. You
have to, you know, be able to get rid of
the ball quickly, because as an offensive line, your quarterback
(37:44):
can make you look horrible if you sit back and
scramble all day long. What you want is an occasional playoff. Caleb,
give me one where you're sitting there and we HiPE
the ball to you and you throw it in two seconds.
Because what it does is it frustrates the pass rushers.
Instead of them setting up these big, elaborate, quick arm
(38:05):
over kind of moves that all these guys can do.
Now they're forced to come back to the bull rush.
Now they're forced to try and come back and run
through you. Well, now is a big offensive lineman. I
don't want to deal with all that speed every snap.
That's the same reason that you see people at the
end of the game when it's a blowout getting all
their sacks because now they can set you up, they
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can do all this stuff. So I think Caleb Williams
is and all these guys. Jayden Daniels is fantastic, Dreake
May is fantastic. Get escaping be an athletic and doing it.
But if I were coaching, and what I would tell
them is do your offensive lineman a favor. Occasionally drop back,
throw one out of there in two seconds. If it's
every third or fourth row. It may not seem like
(38:48):
anything to you, but it is a huge asset for
those big guys up front, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
So much of the Aaron Rodgers situation is listen. He
makes them real, like far briefly, but that went sideways.
And they've been looking for a quarterback like since Nameath.
They've had athletic guys. They've had Chad Pennington I always
thought was underrated. He was really good. But they've been
looking forever and they miss on Zach Wilson. So let's
go get Aaron. I don't think I'm being unfair when
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I say, guys, he's forty. The last time I saw
him in Green Bay, it won't great, and that was
with the veter on line. AFC is great. It's loaded,
and there's so many remarkable young men playing quarterback in
the AFC alone, It's is just incredible. I mean, you
got to go seven deep and you get to maybe
(39:39):
a Trevor Lawrence or to Shaun Watson. And so my
takeaway is if it just rests on Aaron Rodgers, this
is not going to be a great team. The old
line has to work. Garrett Wilson needs a second, you know,
I think I think we're being unrealistic on what a
forty year old quarterback can do off surgery. Is that reasonable?
Speaker 10 (40:00):
It's definitely reasonable. I think if you at least when
I saw a few clips of him practicing early on,
I thought I could still see him kind of favoring
that leg a little bit on bootleg runs and some
different things. I'm sure he's healthier now than what he was.
He has good players around him. I mean, Breestall is
a good player, Garrett Wilson's a good player. Probably what's
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going to decided most is how these tackles play. You know,
Tyron Smith and Morgan Moses certainly going to help that
boshnew comes in gives them a third one. But we
know what they have on the defensive side of the ball,
and I don't know that Aaron Rodgers has ever had
the ability to win a game scoring twenty points. If
they can score twenty to twenty four points a game
(40:46):
with the Jets, they've got a chance to win a bunch.
And I think what you want to do is give
yourself a chance in the fourth quarter with Aaron Rodgers, right,
Let's tap in to that experience. Let's tap into what
he can do out of offenses and use the brain
power one of the smartest guys you ever meet in
the National Football League and use that to go win
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a game in the clutch. So I think they'll still
lean on the defense and the way they can play
on that side of the ball. I mean, they have
great players over there, and let's see what twenty four
to seventeen feels like for the New York Jets for
a little while. Now, tough division. You know it's going
to be hard to get out of that one. But
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I've seen Aaron Rodgers do so many great things during
the course of my broadcasting career, and I think he
can think his way out and around issues that other
quarterbacks can't. A lot of these other quarterbacks are still
very young. As long as physically he can still move
a little bit and that offensive line holds up, I
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think Quinnon and Quincy Williams and CJ. Moseley still can
lead them to a division title if he plays well.
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smart and it's thoughtful, and I'm like, Okay, he's an
Emmy Award winner as a broadcaster. He's a great broadcas
he's a great football player. Oh he has to be
good in business too, I'll be honest. Don't love that
that you're good at.
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I just want to be your partner. I've heard about
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Speaker 10 (42:38):
Thanks Colin.
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Speaker 6 (43:31):
Where are they going on a vacation for those guys?
Speaker 4 (43:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Probably.
Speaker 6 (43:34):
I see Broussard golfing all over Instagram.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I don't have time for that. It's all aground.
Speaker 6 (43:40):
I know you don't follow me. It's very upsetting.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
I don't follow you, you know, is that a personal thing?
It's not really a personal thing. It's just all it's
at all glamour shots and bicycles.
Speaker 6 (43:50):
Oh, I mean not really.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
No.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
Yeah, there's some wisdom in there, some pearls of wisdom. Gambling.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I'm so excited, by the way.
Speaker 6 (43:59):
Yeah, yeah, can I tell you?
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Can I tell you my bets? I'm not gonna make
for Week one five? Oh, I've already got him too.
You've got You've already made the bet.
Speaker 7 (44:06):
By the way, college football Week zero this weekend, will
you have any action on the games?
Speaker 1 (44:10):
We should do a segment tomorrow talking about that. Okay,
we should have gay. We'll do a segment. If I
was going to do the Blazing five, these would be
the picks. Just tannel. The audience is going to shame
you into doing a blazing Be careful on that Niners
Jets game. Everybody's betting the Niners stay away. Be very
(44:32):
careful on that. I don't know if Brandon I youk
who knows
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Here we go, it's our three. Has the show not
flown by the day on a Monday, Jmac it is
flying by five minutes, vinch Young. This is the year
for the Texas Longhorns. We had Urban Meyer on last
week breaking down the Big Ten. Texas now moves into
the SEC from the Big twelve. It's a it's just
(00:46):
a different conference entirely one Big twelve very offensive driven
SEC got offense, but it's more about defense. Every week
you're looking up at somebody that cane. Even the basketball
schools Kentucky compla so young in five minutes, Chris Collins
wor stop by today. So I've been on this for
years now. The Steelers can't get their own line right.
(01:08):
They draft and developed, well, they can't get their own
line right. This weekend. It is bad. Russell Wilson Justin
Field is bad. So we saw Belichick, Andy Reid, Pete
Carroll get fired. I think it's fair if this thing
gets ugly to start worrying about Mike Tomlin and Pittsburgh.
I mean, Russell Wilson had five drives and one first down.
(01:28):
Pass protection was awful. He and Justin Fields and their
mobile ten quarterback hits four sacks. And these guys run well,
they can't run the football now, they've tried that the
last several years. Last year in middle of the pack.
So in the last five years, Pittsburgh is thirtieth, thirtieth
in total yards per game, below Carolina, below teams dysfunctional
(01:54):
teams like the Raiders in Washington. Only the Jets and
Giants are worse. And it doesn't matter matter if it's
old Big Ben, young, Kenny Pickett, Mason Rudolph, doesn't matter.
And now these guys, two mobile guys, they can't move
the ball past the Texan's terrible. And by the way,
Russell Wilson and Justin Fields the last two years are
the most sacked quarterbacks in the league. So if you're
(02:16):
wondering why Justin Fields looks skittish and Russell is Captain
check down this weekend. They don't want to get hit.
Would you want to get hit if the last couple
of years you're the most sacked guy in the league.
I wouldn't want to get hit either. And so when
you watch this kind of a neptitude on one side
of the ball, it's coaching. I'll tell you why. Because
organizations the last ten years, like Washington, the ownership was bad.
(02:40):
They couldn't draft and develop. That's just a broken franchise.
The Raiders have felt like a broken franchise. I would
say that Jets and the Giants right now. Jets have
some players, let's not you know, let's not be dishonest
about that. They got some dudes, but they kind of
feel like a broken franchise. Pittsburgh doesn't. Pittsburgh drafts one well,
(03:00):
really well, they develop well, they have excellent ownership. They're
not the biggest spenders, but they're not cheap. And yet
defensively they're always elite. Yet they're completely utterly inept on
one side of the ball. That's on the head coach.
(03:21):
He's run through coordinators, he's run through quarterbacks. That's on
Mike Tomlin. They are awful when a business is not broken,
does many things fundamentally well. And you have a department
of the business. You know, maybe the sales part of
your business is lousy, but the marketing's good, the engineering
(03:41):
is good. Well, then you have to go as the CEO.
You got to go to the sales manager and replace
the sales manager because everything else is humming at the company.
Like Pittsburgh does everything well. They draft, they develop, free agency,
they're smart, it's stable. They are just in nept offensively
young old Mason Rudolph. Doesn't matter who the quarterback is.
(04:03):
Justin Fields and Russell Wilson are running for their lives.
So this is Mike Tomlin's culture. It's his locker room,
it's his offensive coordinator, it's his responsibility. And Tomlin acknowledged
it's not good on that side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
It's somewhat of an incomplete study because you just don't
get a chance to see him operate or us operate,
or us established rhythm and personality when you're not winning
possession downs and we weren't, you know, the first three
or so a series of the game. It was, you know,
three and out, and that's you're not gonna get an
opportunity to establish rhythm or or or played the way
(04:45):
that you would like as an individual or a collective.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
We didn't do a good enough job of protecting the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
We got to do a better job in past protection
than we did, not only in possession downs, but just
in general. And I was really upfront with the group
about it. In that regard, that can't be a problem
for us. We got to be better than we were
tonight in that area.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
They haven't been good for like seven years in that
area and they can't produce a rhythm now last year,
the year before, the year before again. I think Tom
would be a great broadcaster. I don't think he's a
bad coach. But we're running Andy Reid out of Philly
and Pete Carroll out of the NFL and Belichick out
of New England. This is the coach's responsibility. How many
(05:26):
OC's we've had in the last seven years, I mean,
they draft picks. This is an organization like Green Bay
that drafts and develops really, really well. It's on Mike
and it will be on Steve Sarkejhan. If the Texas
Longhorns don't get into the playoff and win some games,
and let's talk Longhorn football with Vince Young, a college
football Hall of Famer who was thirty and two as
(05:49):
the Texas starting quarterback thirty one nineteen as an NFL quarterback.
I was saying this last week when I knew you
were going to be on the show Monday, I said,
you were the greatest high school football player I've ever seen.
I used to you, it doesn't even look I said,
it looks like taking a very good NFL player and
putting him in a good high school league. So you were,
and then you took Texas to that went over Michigan
(06:09):
and the rose Ball. You come back the following year.
We actually have high school video. It doesn't look like
you're a high schooler. But what's interesting, I want to
talk about your college career. I was at the USC
Texas game, Reggie Bush. You that is the greatest atmosphere
and the greatest game I've ever seen. It was, and
I sat among Texas fans and they were so excited
(06:32):
because us he was rolling at that point. Yes, it's
all the games you've ever played, high school, college and pro.
Where does that USC natty rink?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
That's definitely top five for sure, because of like what
you just said. You got guys like Reggie Bush, Matt Lioner,
I mean the names.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Go on, Roger Clemens on the sideline, Roger Clemens.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
I mean we had a good time. Ronnie Lock I
was happy, happy to meet him. Oh so and Pete Carroll,
which I'm a big fan of. Yeah, players coach, and
like you said, I hate to see that he was
going at the NFL, which he should be coaching. But
it was this tremendous from start to finish. Even when
we was going to the Disneyland. It was fun just
being high in this atmosphere. But those guys were the
(07:09):
best team and we wanted to play them. And if
you noticed what I said last year, the year before
when I was played Michigan, I was like, we'll be bad, ye,
And we went to work that whole summer and we
got prepared to try to get to that national championship.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
By the way, the Michigan game was wild as well. People,
it was crazy. That's what the beginning. When the rose
ball sort of broke away from tradition and you had
Texas playing in a rose ball, I was like, I'm
good with it. I'm good. Yeah, it is special. So
we talked about this with Texas. I think college football
(07:46):
has two or three only two or three what I
would call glamour programs, USC and Texas top of the list.
Notre Dame still viewed academically. Miami I always felt had
a little bit of a glamour to it. Big city
Texas football doesn't feel like Norman, Oklahoma. It doesn't feel
like it's big city when you were in college and
(08:07):
you were a star, it is. Did it come? Did
it compare to some of your NFL days because you
played in a smaller NFL city. It just feels like
almost a pro team.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's why you you know, you
noticed that Oklahoma, Oakland, they was trying to come to
Texas or San Antonios between Santoine and Austin, but it
didn't happen because nobody can compete with the University of Texas. So,
you know, when I was there, it was tough, but
thank god I had guys like Chris Sims there to
(08:39):
kind of follow him his day to day routines. How
to carry yourself as a quarterback on campus, going to classes,
these type of things, how to be a quarterback at
the university of Texas, which is not easy.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
But at the same time, I had fun.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
I learned a lot and I do a lot of
respect to coach Brown for redshirting me, to see that,
you know, traveling with team on the way games and
stuff like that, holding a clipboard writing down the plays.
I mean, all that type of thing. Those things made
me more mature as a young man.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
You know, these days it's very hard to get somebody
that's as good as you. In high school, it would
be virtually impossible to ask him to back up like
it was hard. Oh, I know, because you were a
you were the most dominant Texas high school football player
probably ever. Do you worry that the transfer portal kids
now quarterbacks, they want a player, they'll just transfer and
(09:32):
you had to set for a year and grow up
and it was hard. We're not going to see a
lot of that. Does that worry at all?
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Yeah, in the way, I think it's not good because
the world doesn't go like that. You can't just tell
people that you want to just leave up and like that.
Even in a five tonne job, you can't. You got
to still put in two week notice before you leave.
So that's going to be a mentally challenge for all younger,
younger players, you know, especially at the quarterback position. I
feel like, you know, what Archie Manny is doing right now,
(10:01):
it's great.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It's great for him.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
You know, it's the NFL is not going nowhere, and
for you to just sit back, get ahead in your books,
learn the plays, learn the game, learn the way, how
to travel, how to be a leader, learn these things
which he has like the best people in the world.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
To teach him that, from Peyton to Elie.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
And his father and as well as myself, you know,
talking to him every day when I'm around campus. So
I feel like what he's doing right now is going
to have him really prepared to play when it's just
his time.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
So Sark brought you in as a special assistant, And
first of all, what does that What do you do
with Texas?
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Well, I'm just I've let an assistant at AD So
I just basically, you know, help with recruiting, raising money
for funds and things like that. Just being visible on campus,
being a big brother for the younger guys and you know,
going to speak to the you know, different classes and
things like that. Just being an ambassador for the university.
(10:57):
So It's been real fun. You know, Earl Campbell can't
do it as much as he could like he used to.
So learning from him throughout the years and doing some
things to help, you know, put make sure our university
is still on the map in the right way.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So I said, J Mack loves quinn Ewers, and I've
said I don't doubt the talent. He's a little loose.
To me, he can be a little loose and so
much when you get into these big games. This is
not the Big twelve anymore. You can't make those mistakes
in the SEC. The defenses are better, the games will
be closer. Yes, I mean Texas basically shows up outside
of Oklahoma. You have better players than everybody. Well, now
(11:30):
it's LSU, Now it's Georgia, now it's Bama. You can't
make those big picks in the SEC.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Do you think quinn Ewers can maintain his talent? That
he's got a whip?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But and and but do you do you think he's matured?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yes? I think he has.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I think that's one of the biggest things that myself
as well as Coach Stark has seen through uh just
throughout this summer to now his maturity level is it's
took to a whole nother level as well as his
leadership role. And that's pretty good for him because he's
more as a veteran, he has more game reps underneath
his belt. So just to see him become a leader,
I think he could. I think he could be more
(12:08):
voiceable to speak more. A little bit, yeah, a little
bit more. But overall, overall, his talent, the smartness of
a game, the IQ of his game is starting to
take off.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
So I'm looking forward to a good year for him.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
The main thing is, like what you just said, he
got to understand every week is going to be a
tough game. And also it's gonna be your first year
in the SEC, So what legacy you want to leave
that team?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
This year got to be so.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
So I've been a fan of Sark forever. He had
some personal struggles, he got over those. He's a tremendous coach.
He's a great recruiter. I think he fits Texas because
I've always thought Texas is the only kind of Big
twelve school. It's got. It feels a little Pac twelve.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
It's kind of cool, right.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Like a lot of college towns aren't cool. Austin feels
like kind of a cool. Tasks got a little I
know for years the Pac twelve wanted to bring Texas in,
and Texas that no thanks. What is when you look
at Sark and you know Sark, what does he do best?
What do you really like about his coaching style?
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Well, you just hit to know he'd been through everything
from personal things that he had in his life as
well as coaching things as well. At USC then he
also was with Nick Saban underneath the brand as well,
so he's seen a lot. So the way he's building
out the school is what exactly what ut is is bonding,
you know, carrying about each other, taking care of your responsibility,
(13:25):
treating you like a young man. So to see that
chemistry is picking up. The team is going to play
better because when we was playing there, Coach Brown was
big on that chemistry. Protect each other, Uh, you know,
be go to class, do what you have to do,
your responsibilities.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
And to see that now Coach Stark.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Has brought that back into our school and now you
see we're starting to get into that rhythm back to winning.
You know, being at the playoffs this year. Tough loss,
but you know the chemistry to get there. Now we
have that identity that we know who we are. Now
we know when we can there on this football field,
what we need to do to get back to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Is it harder, like if you're some of these college
towns will be honest for boring?
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And I've said this about USC, it's a distracting city.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Oh yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Is it harder in Austin? This town doesn't go to
bed at seven forty five?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Is it harder sometimes to be more focused as an athlete?
It's it's beautiful people, it's a music scene, great food
in Austin. It's like the truck scene, the food truck scene,
like it's up till midnight every night. It's not your
typical college town. Same with Miami, same with USC. I've
seen these programs get distracted. Is that still an issue
with SARK? Do you have to preach that a lot?
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah, that's going to fall back on Quinn. That's Quinn
and the rest of the leaders on the football team.
If you can't stay your butt at home and what's
more important than graduating and win in the national championship,
then you do need to transferring into transfer and partal
because that's not the type of players that we're producing
at the Universe of Texas. We want to know that
I can con depend on my man on my right
(15:01):
and my man on my left, and that's the main thing.
So I hope Quinn and I know coach is saying that,
the coaching staff is saying that. So it has to
go down to the leaders. And that was one of
the things that we did when we was there. We
had guys like Michael huff why right, We had all
the leaders, all the tight end most gave. We had
leaders trickling everything that Mac Brown was telling us as
(15:22):
leaders to get, make sure we tell it to our team.
So Quinn and the rest of his guys as leaders, God,
be like, man, if you can't understand what's the bigger
picture than what we're doing, because you need to go
out and party, then you don't need to be here.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
And that's for him to go tell.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
His coach start that this guy needs to be out
off our team because he had distraction.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
So if you go back and I've talked to Michael Vick,
I've talked to all sorts of players about this, have
you had a winning record. Obviously you got to the
playoffs in your NFL career. Now that you have perspective,
you were young, you were a star, you got paid,
you were And if you look back at your NFL
career and say, hey, I could just change one thing,
(16:03):
and again, hindsight's twenty twenty. We're all geniuses, right, But
if you can change anything in your NFL career, because
it wasn't that you weren't productive, that wasn't it.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
What would it be one thing?
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Uh, probably just a little bit more working harder, a
little harder, staying a little bit longer. You know, things
like that, you know, understanding you're a professional, that this
organization put invested a lot of money into you.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
So and making sure I have.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
My foundation right off the field, foundation things so you
can focus on playing the game. So those type of
things I say so when I speak to kids now,
like make sure you got the right people in your
corner that's gonna don't want nothing from you but to
see you prosper and be successful. Right, make sure you
have those people around you. So I'll tell people that
I that I'll do. I'll change that for myself.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
So if you run into Matt Leiner in the hallway,
he works here at Fox. What are your conversations?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Like, what a big guy? How's the golf game?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
He didn't want to talk the game.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
No, you know he gets enough of that already.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
But when you were in that game, did you realize
how great of a game it was? Even as a player?
Did you understand remember the stealth bomber flew over for.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
The end exactly Nation anthem huge, she sung her.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
But off Reggie Bush, the weird lateral. Yes, when you
were in a game like that, had you ever been
in a game that you knew, well, this is a classic,
this is going to be one of the great games
ever talked about. Did you sense it during the game?
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Well?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I sensed it at the heisman. Actually, you know, I
was pretty upset that I lost that heisman. But going
up to the game, the hype of it it was
something I've never seen before, So even I was nervous.
I was a little scared. We're walking into this game.
What you know, what what do I need to do
to make the Longhorn successful? So, you know, a lot
(17:58):
of praying, a lot of X to work, a lot
of extra film work with coach Greg Davis, I'll take
it to the next level because I didn't want to
embarrass not only US as a university, but myself. So
it was, it was. It was a big game, and
I was definitely afraid.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
It was it's an old timer, and uh yeah that
I can remember sitting in the Texas section and just
I love the Texas fans. They weren't obnoxious. I think
we all realized in that game. Everybody's sitting there realized, oh,
this is special. It was one of them. It was
a perfectly beautiful night and what was it was gorgeous
night and the Texas and USC colors as the sun
(18:33):
went down, it was like the whole stadium was like
burnt orange and gold and carbon. It was just stunning. Yes,
a beautiful, beautiful night, wonderful moment. Okay, so this is now.
You start looking at that Texas schedule. There's a Georgia
game if I recall, Yes, Okay, let's say Texas makes
a playoff and Texas wins a game in the playoff,
(18:55):
but they don't win a second game, how's it going
to land in Texas.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
It's not gonna sit Well, we're gonna still be happy.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
We're you know, just to be a team that make
get back going like it's been a while since we've
been doing the things that we've been doing.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
So as a.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Fan and as an alumni, we're excited with the direction
that we're going in. So the main thing is did
we learn from our last year from that game playing
against Washington?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
In that game, did we learned from that?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
And I know, I know the players that was a
sick feeling for them because you was a game You
was what a field goal and a couple of points
away from winning that game. So the main thing is
how your mentality is right now. That's why I said,
I feel like Quinn has matured a little bit because
of that game, So now he understands it's no more
(19:44):
turning back. We have to we have to continue to
be the face of this new you know, twelve team playoff.
We have to finish and I feel like they can
do it. With the coaching staff as well at the
players that we have, I feel like they can do it.
It's all about the mindset. We were just talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Vin Young, an all time great NFL offensive rookie of
the year thirty one and nineteen in the NFL and
one of the faces of the great Texas Longhorns program.
Well run top to bottom. Great to meet you, Great
to see you. Oh, by the way, if you're in
Austin sixteen years running, I've been to it a couple
of times. Great best steakhouse in Austin. It's a steakhouse.
(20:22):
It's really good.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
So yeah, if you come and say that Georgia game,
you better reserve it now.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
That's gonna be the game that Oregon plays. Ohio State
and Eugene and Georgia Texas Market down are the two
college football games of note, and there's gonna be a
lot of good ones, but those are great.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Yeah, that's gonna be a big one, especially in doubt
in the Michigan game too. It's gonna be another one
we've got. So that's going to help their identity.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Those are identity changing games exactly. You just got to
win those big games.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
It's great to see you, becose, Good.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
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Speaker 1 (21:13):
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to see Vince Young, Ian O'Connor today the new Aaron
Rodgers book. And here's j Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
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Speaker 7 (21:30):
I almost thought you were gonna shed a tear during
the Texas USC discussion.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
That one hurts you hunt. That was such a game.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Oh my god, I know on the USC was down
two corners and they couldn't get fourth down in inches
and lend A White got stopped. I'm not gonna blame anybody.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Which is yeah, I don't ever mention it when I
see liner. All right, let's get started here. First up,
Caitlin Clark colin record setting performance in the Fevers win
over the Seattle Storm on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
But check out this moment.
Speaker 7 (22:01):
Okay, So number four on Seattle is Skyler Diggan Smith,
who was a big deal at Notre Dame.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
She was super popular and for whatever.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
Reason, I guess she got irked by Clark egging on
the crowd. Look at this she speeds up bumps into
Clark and then one of the Seattle coaches is.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Like, referees, look, Kaitlin Clark pushed her.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
Like lobbying for another technical on Caitlin Clark Colin. I
know people get upset when the word jealousy is thrown around.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Oh there's there's some petty in this here.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
Diggins is a real She was a really strong player,
super popular, you know, big on social media, and like
Kateln Clark has taken over this league now taking it over,
and I'm just telling you the fever are coming.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
I know that we were hurt that she wasn't on
the Olympic team, but.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
That rest, she looks totally rejuvenated and she's playing at
a different pace yesterday yep, going up and down the court, layups,
fast break.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Like, I'm just saying, watch out for the fever.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
This team is gonna be a tough out in the playoffs,
and I know people will like, just be quiet, stop,
you guys have to be watching these games.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
I watched this game. Yeah, like they're going after Clark.
They're angry at her.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
The coaches were jostling at the end of the game
because the Seattle coach is so upset with Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
The people don't like her. I just don't get it
going well.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I think this this league has always had been a
little insular, feel like they've been ignored. But in fairness,
they don't make any money and she's the first rock star.
They've had good players, they don't have needle movers, and
so you know she's they have kind of a club.
Remember Bryce Harper, the crap he got for three years. Yeah,
baseball is very insulur. We don't need you, we don't
(23:34):
care if we're not football. There's a way to play
the game. Bryce Harper is like, nah, you guys have
some fun, and he had teammates pushed back on him.
It's the baseball and WNBA feel like they're a little precious.
You know, there's a way to play the game. It's like, no, bro,
it's all about money.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
So I was starting to move away from that crowd, right, well,
do not be that guy.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Get precious, and you know you don't get us. You
don't get in a opinion, why NFL is king and
why the NBA just got a seven billion dollar annual deal.
Come on, join the club. It's fun.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
And didn't you do a segment earlier about baseball being
having some questions next summer. There's no Euros, right, there's
no COPA, there's no Olympics. W NBA, if they play
their cards right, can really load up the schedule in
summer months with don't front load.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
The schedule like they did this year.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
No, they they it's been a distracting summer. We got
we got, you know, white houses up for grabs, COPA, Euros.
Uh wait until that all moves aside for the WNBA.
You know, we always talk about what's the the NFL,
the NBA, baseball hockey or the four big professional leagues
UFC field okare, come on, that hits soccer, mL as Okay,
(24:50):
WNBA by next summer may join that. It's been a
professional league, but I mean, will be a revenue producing
league that can that can stand on its own feet.
I'm telling you it's gonna explode next year.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Whn's college basketball. They got juju here at us.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
And the advantage is women's players. It's a huge advantage
the WNBA draft. You know, the top eight players, they
all played in college for four years at UConn or
South Carolina or Baylor, Stanford NBA Draft. I'm like, what league,
what country?
Speaker 8 (25:19):
What?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
What? What I mean? I don't know who the players are?
Speaker 6 (25:22):
All right, this next story, this is a tough one.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
Colin so Tua Tunavailoa has flourished over the last.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Two seasons with Mike mcdanielis as a head coach.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Before that, though, he had Brian Flores, who has, you know,
a bit of a reputation, is a tough guy to
play for. Well, Tua was asked about the difference between
the two coaches. He had like that pregnant pause, and
then he said, what if you woke up every morning
and were told that you suck at what you do
and that somebody else should come in and tell you, dude,
you're not the best fit for this. How would it
(25:53):
make you feel after listening to that every day? And
that's what he said, Brian Flores was treating him like
and that is not good at all.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Well, that's why Brian Flores is not a head coach.
It's not because he can't coach. He turned the Dolphins
or remember that rookie year they got blown out by
Baltimore early by week eight. You're like special teams in defense,
totally different, but he was a Belichick guy. They come
in there, they're harsh, they're loud, And this is why
Brian Flores is not a head coach. It's not that
he lacks the talent, because if you go back and
(26:23):
look what he did in two years in Miami, you
could see his footprint on that team. That defense and
those special teams were sensational.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
But relationships matter and he's very poor at that.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And that's not Maybe league's never been more collaborative. Belichick's
not very collaborative. The New England guys aren't very collaborative.
Speaker 7 (26:43):
And you know, we'll see what happened with flora is
in Minnesota, because there's a world where Minnesota's good offensively.
We know with O'Connell and Flores gets that defense all
fired up. What if they make the playoffs, does Flores
start to get head coaching looks?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Next week? Yeah, I think you'll get a second one
because I think Demko Ryans is gonna flourish in Houston
and people will go, Okay, if you get the right
defensive coach. Brian is too Brian Flores is too good
not to get a second chance. I think he's too
good we'll see.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
It was a really ugly end in Miami.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Now Two is coming out and saying this, why would
you tell your rookie quarterback that he sucks every day?
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Now? I don't think Two is exaggerating. He doesn't seem
like that kind of guy. But I'm glad that two
has turned it around.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I'll just say that.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
And I'm not a Dolphins guy. You know.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I'm a Jets fan.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
I don't like the dozens.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I think we root for people on this show.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
I like you. I love Mike McDaniel, big fan. Final story,
and we touched on this earlier, but I know you're
hot for it. You love it.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Mike Tyson and Jake Paul went at it over the weekend,
a little posturing.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
We now have sound here, so things got very heated.
They took jabs.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
Here's a listen. There's a lot of bleeped out stuff,
but we gave you what we could. Here's the best stuff.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
We got a YouTuber fighting the greatest fighter that having the.
Speaker 9 (28:00):
Every time every time these fighters sit across for me
and it's YouTubers, Disney Channel all that, and then you
end up on the canvas and you'll see it's gonna
be no different here.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I promise you that.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
You know what Jake Paul, Jake falls like twenty five
years younger than this guy.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Well, there's no I think come on, first two rounds
to Tyson. After that it's all Jake Paul.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Well, assuming it goes beyond too hard.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Well, I just don't think. I mean Tyson had a
health scare late fifties.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
Yeah, he's you know, the stuff he's been putting in
his body for the I mean he's got Come.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
On, I don't think Jake Paul's entire life has been
blueberries and candalope in the morning. And I think he's
probably had a He's probably had a good time in
his life.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
I don't know you should we wager? Is this a
fight you'd wager on?
Speaker 10 (28:48):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Because it's well, it's I just this made me feel
it was scripted, this whole thing. They're smiling as they
do it.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
It's like big marketing play for both sides.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I'm sure that you listen, it'll probably I'll be honest,
I'm not sure if it'll get me. I'm a Netflix guy.
I watch a lot of I watched Netflix all weekend.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
Did you check out Emily in Paris. The new season just.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Started, and Vince Vaughn has a new series. I'm gonna watch.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Oh yeah, another guy in the South Bay. Nice guy,
nice gentleman.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
See, so I'm gonna watch that. My wife just started
watching the Vince Vaughn series. She got a couple episodes,
and she said, it's good, you liked it.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
What about the Apple TV show with Jake Diyllonhall presumed innocent.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I love the movie. I don't need to watch the series.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Well, you can tell me, Jay, you got to check
the show out if there was a I just like,
I offer you something good and you're like, eh.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
No, and told me. She goes, oh, it's great, and
I'm like, I love the movie. I don't need to
see I love the movie.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Okay, well let me give you one for your flight
Ballers The Rock. I don't want to I just started
rewatching that is amazing good.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I'm not really into that stuff. I don't watch a
lot of sports. I read sports books. I watch on
sports because I'm watching games all day. Yeah yeah, but
I read sport you know, I O'Connor, Jeff Benedict, Armin Katain.
If you come out with the sports book, I'll read it.
I like that, but I for television streaming docs, I
like nonsports.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
J Mack of the news, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
The Herd Line News and the show today just flies by.
Now last Monday you were off vacationing, and so the
show really flew by. But now this week, it's a
little clunkier today, but nonetheless it is moving at warp speed,
and I really like that. So Chris Collinsworth, do you
(30:41):
know he's won seventeen Sports Emmys? Is that right? Sports
Broadcaster Hall of Fame? And that's a lot of sports Emmys. Really,
so he's better than me at football and the broadcasting.
That's so Chris collins Worth PFF owns that thing is
around the corner.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Be sure to catch live edition The Herd weekdays and
Noone Eastern a em Pacific.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
Hey, it's Ben, host of The Fifth Hour with Ben
Maller with me and a lot to have you join
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(31:25):
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Fifth Hour with Ben Matherer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Chris
Collins Verse seventeen Sports Emmys. I'm old enough to remember
Bengals Florida Gator. That lanky guy could run now pff.
As well, man, you've had a career, You have really
had a career. The you know, I look at the
NFL and it feels like over the last eight to
(31:53):
ten years you played in an NFL where receivers, the headhunters,
they could grab you. It was not very friendly to offense.
The league is completely pivoted now where you know, and
I think it's the right for safety. I think it's
the right space. So Raven's Chiefs Week one, that's your
first matchup. I said, if Andy Reid wins three straight,
(32:18):
we're gonna have to have real conversations about best football
coach ever Walsh Belichick because he's doing it now without
the receiving corps. How do you view historically, and I
know this stuff. You have knowledge of it, and it
matters to you. How do you view Andy Reid? Is
he our best coach in the last decade? Could he
(32:38):
end up being the best coach ever?
Speaker 10 (32:42):
Maybe? Maybe he was. He has been unbelievable, And I
tell you he was so far ahead of the curve
when it came to throwing the ball, like sixty percent
of the time. I mean, I can remember having conversations
with him like are you crazy? Like what are you doing?
Why aren't you balancing out run pass? Everybody talks about it.
(33:04):
Everybody in Philadelphia was mad about it. Everybody, all the experts,
myself included, like, that's crazy sixty percent throwing the football
and how can you do this? And you're never going
to win a Super Bowl? And Dad, and all you
needed was just a little bit better player at quarterback.
He ends up getting a great one. But he, I
(33:26):
tell you he is for somebody my age. He's still
so hip with the players. I mean he lets them
literally go out and goof around like they're in pe
class and dream up plays, especially down in the red zone,
and they're having a blast. They're having fun, they're joking, laughing,
(33:47):
goofing around and then they bring them back to him
and he goes, well, okay, I got to do a
little bit of this. And then they'll run it, you know,
three or four times in practice during the year, and
they'll tweak it and then a couple of them will
come out of it. But you can see the literal
joy on their faces when one of their plays that
they dreamt up scores a touchdown in a game. And
(34:11):
so he's engaging with these players on so many different
levels that it's fun to watch them practice, it's fun
to watch him play the games, and it's fun to
watch them interact with Andy Reid because he's still cool.
He's still cool.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, you know Chris so much. We forget for quarterbacks. Occasionally,
maybe once a decade you'll get an l Way or
an Andrew Luck who are going to blow through roadblocks
and obstacles. But situationally, in fit is so valuable, not
just the football players, to all young people. The right
college you choose, it's not that it doesn't have to
be princeed, and it can be the right fit. You're
(34:47):
close to your mom and dad. I look at bon
Nix and Peyton and Chris, I see breeze. I mean
this kid seven drives scored on six. I think you
can tell. I know it's preseason, Chris, but I'm watching it.
I don't know. That looks like, oh, they found their guy.
I know I'm being hyper here, but I think it
looks like it works right now.
Speaker 10 (35:09):
Yeah, I don't think you're being You're going too crazy
on it. And the reason why O Nicks was the
one guy I thought was going to be the upset choice.
I thought he was going to go fourth in the
draft because fourth as the quarterback, because of the fact
that when you watched him play in college, he was
(35:31):
a quick release guy. The hardest thing to drill into
these young quarterbacks heads is that you have two and
a half seconds to throw the ball. I mean they
are used to Jaden Daniels, Caleb Williams, Drake May. They're
used to having four or five and they're athletics, so
they can buy six seven seconds and run around. When
(35:52):
you play in the NFL, if I were a head coach,
I would sit behind my quarterback with a foghorn when
it got the two and a half seconds, I would
destroy his ear drums because that's when you're going to
get hit in the back of the head of the NFL.
Bo Nicks played his college football getting rid of the
ball on time, getting rid of the ball on time.
(36:16):
He didn't put up some of the gaudy deep ball
numbers that these guys did, but he played like it
was an NFL game, and that's why you're seeing him
have this early success.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Caleb Williams, I watched every snap at USC that mattered.
The criticism, and I think it's just is that he
can be a little ad libby. And I've argued Mahomes
has gotten better without Tyreek Hill. It's forced him to
be more efficient, get rid of the ball, quicker. You
don't get the lollipop throws, Caleb's going to make those.
I watched him, you know, this weekend, and I'm like, yeah,
(36:47):
he he likes to take off. Is that a fair criticism?
Are you a little concerned with sometimes your greatest gift
becomes a burden.
Speaker 10 (36:57):
I think it happened to Justin Fields a little bit.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (37:00):
You know, your whole life, the best option has always
been to take off and run. I mean, you're a
better athlete. You're a better athlete on the basketball floor,
on the baseball field. On the football field, you're always
a better athlete. So if you took off and ran,
that was always going to work. Now you're in the
National Football League. Now there are athletes that are playing
(37:23):
on the edge and that are playing cornerbacks and safeties
that are rushing you, and they're as good, if not better,
athletes than you are. So now it comes to the
hard part. Now you have to stand in there. You
have to, you know, be able to get rid of
the ball quickly, because as an offensive line, your quarterback
(37:44):
can make you look horrible if you sit back and
scramble all day long. What you want is an occasional playoff. Caleb,
give me one where you're sitting there and we HiPE
the ball to you and you throw it in two seconds.
Because what it does is it frustrates the pass rushers.
Instead of them setting up these big, elaborate, quick arm
(38:05):
over kind of moves that all these guys can do.
Now they're forced to come back to the bull rush.
Now they're forced to try and come back and run
through you. Well, now is a big offensive lineman. I
don't want to deal with all that speed every snap.
That's the same reason that you see people at the
end of the game when it's a blowout getting all
their sacks because now they can set you up, they
(38:26):
can do all this stuff. So I think Caleb Williams
is and all these guys. Jayden Daniels is fantastic, Dreake
May is fantastic. Get escaping be an athletic and doing it.
But if I were coaching, and what I would tell
them is do your offensive lineman a favor. Occasionally drop back,
throw one out of there in two seconds. If it's
every third or fourth row. It may not seem like
(38:48):
anything to you, but it is a huge asset for
those big guys up front, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
So much of the Aaron Rodgers situation is listen. He
makes them real, like far briefly, but that went sideways.
And they've been looking for a quarterback like since Nameath.
They've had athletic guys. They've had Chad Pennington I always
thought was underrated. He was really good. But they've been
looking forever and they miss on Zach Wilson. So let's
go get Aaron. I don't think I'm being unfair when
(39:17):
I say, guys, he's forty. The last time I saw
him in Green Bay, it won't great, and that was
with the veter on line. AFC is great. It's loaded,
and there's so many remarkable young men playing quarterback in
the AFC alone, It's is just incredible. I mean, you
got to go seven deep and you get to maybe
(39:39):
a Trevor Lawrence or to Shaun Watson. And so my
takeaway is if it just rests on Aaron Rodgers, this
is not going to be a great team. The old
line has to work. Garrett Wilson needs a second, you know,
I think I think we're being unrealistic on what a
forty year old quarterback can do off surgery. Is that reasonable?
Speaker 10 (40:00):
It's definitely reasonable. I think if you at least when
I saw a few clips of him practicing early on,
I thought I could still see him kind of favoring
that leg a little bit on bootleg runs and some
different things. I'm sure he's healthier now than what he was.
He has good players around him. I mean, Breestall is
a good player, Garrett Wilson's a good player. Probably what's
(40:23):
going to decided most is how these tackles play. You know,
Tyron Smith and Morgan Moses certainly going to help that
boshnew comes in gives them a third one. But we
know what they have on the defensive side of the ball,
and I don't know that Aaron Rodgers has ever had
the ability to win a game scoring twenty points. If
they can score twenty to twenty four points a game
(40:46):
with the Jets, they've got a chance to win a bunch.
And I think what you want to do is give
yourself a chance in the fourth quarter with Aaron Rodgers, right,
Let's tap in to that experience. Let's tap into what
he can do out of offenses and use the brain
power one of the smartest guys you ever meet in
the National Football League and use that to go win
(41:08):
a game in the clutch. So I think they'll still
lean on the defense and the way they can play
on that side of the ball. I mean, they have
great players over there, and let's see what twenty four
to seventeen feels like for the New York Jets for
a little while. Now, tough division. You know it's going
to be hard to get out of that one. But
(41:30):
I've seen Aaron Rodgers do so many great things during
the course of my broadcasting career, and I think he
can think his way out and around issues that other
quarterbacks can't. A lot of these other quarterbacks are still
very young. As long as physically he can still move
a little bit and that offensive line holds up, I
(41:51):
think Quinnon and Quincy Williams and CJ. Moseley still can
lead them to a division title if he plays well.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
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I am jealous that you own this because it's a
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smart and it's thoughtful, and I'm like, Okay, he's an
Emmy Award winner as a broadcaster. He's a great broadcas
he's a great football player. Oh he has to be
good in business too, I'll be honest. Don't love that
that you're good at.
Speaker 10 (42:30):
I just want to be your partner. I've heard about
your business. I just want to be your partner.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Now. It's great seeing your Chris. Congrats and all your success.
Speaker 10 (42:38):
Thanks Colin.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
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And I remember when he was a Florida Gator. I
you know that's that's what's called wisdom. J Mac not
out here Flailand. Been around the block a few times.
Say you're failing, Vince Young, Chris collins Worth, an Ian O'Connor.
Speaker 6 (43:03):
Not a bad start to the week, not a.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Bad start at all. But we will live up to
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show today. You know what's a good show? And it
flies by, and it flew by. No, first things first. Today,
(43:27):
that's all you have to watch the rest of the day,
you just go go take it.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
Where are they going on a vacation for those guys?
Speaker 4 (43:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Probably.
Speaker 6 (43:34):
I see Broussard golfing all over Instagram.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I don't have time for that. It's all aground.
Speaker 6 (43:40):
I know you don't follow me. It's very upsetting.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
I don't follow you, you know, is that a personal thing?
It's not really a personal thing. It's just all it's
at all glamour shots and bicycles.
Speaker 6 (43:50):
Oh, I mean not really.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
No.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
Yeah, there's some wisdom in there, some pearls of wisdom. Gambling.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I'm so excited, by the way.
Speaker 6 (43:59):
Yeah, yeah, can I tell you?
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Can I tell you my bets? I'm not gonna make
for Week one five? Oh, I've already got him too.
You've got You've already made the bet.
Speaker 7 (44:06):
By the way, college football Week zero this weekend, will
you have any action on the games?
Speaker 1 (44:10):
We should do a segment tomorrow talking about that. Okay,
we should have gay. We'll do a segment. If I
was going to do the Blazing five, these would be
the picks. Just tannel. The audience is going to shame
you into doing a blazing Be careful on that Niners
Jets game. Everybody's betting the Niners stay away. Be very
(44:32):
careful on that. I don't know if Brandon I youk
who knows
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