September 8, 2024 • 42 mins
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Favorites got action network dot com. All right, let's run
through the games, starting with the losers. I know everyone
in the chat wants to come after us because we
have so been all about the Panthers. And we got
fucking kicked in the dick, and then we got stomped,
and then we got our head smashed in, and then
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someone reached deep deep down our throats and pulled our
stomach out and then squeezed the juice is on our
face and we melted. That's how disgusting it was. And
it wasn't even as bad as what the Panthers did
on the field.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Shut up, shut up.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I felt like we were tired in the Panthers.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
We believe the panthers bad luck with penalties and turnovers
could not continue. We believe the offensive line would be better,
receivers would be better, coaching would be better, Bryce Young
would be better. Simon, everything bad last season for the
Panthers was bad in this game.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah, when I have family members that I barely talk
to that barely even watch football, texting me, how the
hell did you like this Panthers team? I always like,
Jesus Christ, this is not where we want to go.
I've had a couple of fans reach out to US
NASA US. Why don't we simply every week bet against
the Panthers and see if that works, because clearly would.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Have worked last year, and it's off to a hot
start this year.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I say not to overreact too much to one game,
but I think, I mean, you both agree Bryce Young
might be out of this league in a year like
this guy doesn't really fit the part.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So I know you have a little bit of rant
about bry S Young here, Chad, but I'm.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
With the fans. I don't care that next week. We
both think there's value on the line. I'm not betting them.
I'm not giving them out on the show. So go ahead, Chaed.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Well look right now, Carolina, I think is what's the lion.
It's five and a half at home. They're plus five
and a half at home against the Chargers. Obviously you
look at that number and you have to say to yourself, yeah,
there's value on the Panthers.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We're not going to recommend that. We're not going to
say that.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Last year, the Panthers averaged just four point one yards
per play. That's the worst mark for any team since
the Bengals in.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
They had three point five yards per play today. Thank
you Evan for putting that in our chat here. Look,
we can go through the stats and believe all of
the things that I said are true about the Panthers.
Better coaching, better talent around Bryce Young, he's just awful.
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Like that first look, first throw interception. And it's not
like there's no urgency. This is in when he's in
the pocket. You see guys in the pocket and they
have a sense that things are clapping collapsing around them.
They start to step up. They're sliding left, they're sliding right,
they look like the of trying to put themselves in
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a position to make a play. He just stands there
until it's almost completely collapsed on him. And because he's
so tiny, it's almost impossible for him to make the
right play because he's in a position where he's going
to make a bad throw because he can't see anything.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I know.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
It's like, I'm not trying to make fun of the guy. No,
he's just he's terrible at this.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
And yeah, it's the same reason like I talked about.
You know last year right had a second round great
in the guys, if you want to be a first
round pick, there's always one thing this guy does great, right,
better than everyone else?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
C J. Stroud.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
The two best things will see the shot is his
pocket pocket awareness and his accuracy deep down the field.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Brayshung coming out. He was just good at everything, right,
Wasn't that what they told us? Jad?
Speaker 4 (06:47):
And it's like, okay, but what's he great at? And
when you watch this stuff, he's not great at anything. Right.
He doesn't have great pocket awareness, hasn't great move in
the in the pocket, he doesn't have great arm talent. Right,
there was guys open today that he was missing.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Got burned bad today on them for a decent amount
of money, and I just I don't care. We can
keep it moving because I don't want to waste any
more time on them. I'm just totally discussing what I
saw today, and I'm hoping tomorrow next week. You know,
it's a new team that was just a one off, right,
that's the hope, because we actually bet on their futures.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
But right now, zero confidence and Bryce Shawan.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Here's the problem. And I like to wallow in my misery.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Like I felt so sick all day that about this
game and about this bet and how much we touted
this team, and like it just I'm in agony about it.
So I just want to I just want to get
it all out, like they made the New Orleans Saints,
who we genuinely believe are not good, right, and their
defensive line is older, their offensive line isn't as good.
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Derek Carr first long pass, sixty yards touchdown. Derek Carr
looked like a world beater today against this team. Dennis
Allen didn't have to be a bad coach because he
didn't have to coach.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
They were up thirty to three at halftime.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Like the Panthers did everything that the Panthers did the
previous year. The game was not out of hand in
the first half, and they had a really smartly designed
play where they pitched it out. I think it was
Miles Sanders ran for a first down on a long
third down holding penalty comes back, they give the ball
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back to the Saints they had I think they were
down twenty to nothing, So like not over right still
first half. If you believe in the team, we believe
in the coach. We think they've got some talent. It's
not over fumble on a reverse after they gain a
first down, Like every single time with this team, they're
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just like none of them look like they know how
to play. It's like you go to Carolina and you're
in affected. You're infected with some kind of like panther virus.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, and that just when it starts going bad though,
it just goes terrible. Right, They're just terrible. They don't
have any real leadership. That's probably another issue for this team.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Well, speaking of terrible, we were on the Giants today
at plus one and a half. We almost pulled it
out of the contest today and we're going to get
to sort of why we didn't and games that we
were going to put in, all of which were winners today,
which is another thing that's making even more sick.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
When did Sam Darnold become Sam? I am the man?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Because he started ten for ten, like I think he
had two incompletions of the whole game and threw for
more than two hundred yards he had. He started ten
for ten with one hundred and thirty six yards in
a touchdown. They had an eleven play, ninety nine yard
drive that ended with a fourth.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Down time touchdown throat. That's what all world qbs do.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Did we see anything here that justified the confidence we
had in the Giants? Did get did we get taken?
Did we fool ourselves? Do we misread?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Like? Are we off for too?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
On the teams that we were convinced might have some value?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I would say Daniel Jones definitely looked rusty. I thought
he would be rusty, but I thought overall they'd played better.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
But yeah, like you just nailed.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Sam Darnold started the game temper ten and he was
on fire. And then he did eventually turn back into
a pumpkin. He threw a pick and he just like
the second half, they didn't do anything like they were
incredible in the first half.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Once they got to pick six off.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Daniel Jones, it's like, all right, we don't need to
do a single thing now, we can just pack it
in because they knew that their defense was good enough
that they really needed to do much.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I think that was the most surprising part to me
is that, you know, Brian Flores had this defense play
amazing last year. I thought naturally they'd regress just because
they played so of obviously that's not great. Littin the test, right,
it's Daniel Jones and his first started for coming back
off a major injury, which we don't have talk. We'll
get to it, probably that Pittsburgh game. But like you
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saw Kirk Cousins, right, he looked rusty. Like coming off
major injuries in your first start, you play rusty.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
So yeah, I love the.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Under in this game, love the Giants, like I just
had a game scripted the other way. Honestly, I thought
that the Giants would be the ones playing well and
the Vikings would struggle.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And you know, when the game.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Started, I think the Vikings, you know, they got a
sack on Sam Darnold, then they got a fumble recovery,
didn't didn't score a touchdown, like kicked the field goal,
and it's just like in the back of mind, I'm
just thinking, yeah, like this is this is not a
good team, right, so.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Sucks.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Right we got caugh up there with the Giants, but
I'm not totally out on them. Still, it's just you know,
another team that's like, like you just said, we'd other
the other teams we talked about. I would have felt
way better having a lot of money on those quarterbacks
as a dog than I did at any time with
Daniel Jones. Like once it started, it's always our realization
of just like this was not the spot to go
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heavy on Daniel Jones and this team, right, It's like
why did we not wait and see? But still you
know that that is a tough one where it's like
we played the number and we thought we had a
good number. That's what you said, Like we said we
didn't switch it out because we thought we had a
good number.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It was never a good number. That was just a
bad bet.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Now, Daniel Jones was what twenty two or forty two
I think for less than two hundred yards average and
two picks right and averaged four point four yards per completion,
two picks, including the pick six and a pick six
that he threw in sort of inside the twenty I think,
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and then inside his own twenty. And then he also
threw an interception in the Vikings end zone when the
Giants were driving that sort of just ended it. I
do think this rage is, you know, an interesting coaching
question which we had had a lot during the offseason
because da Ball. Brian Dable, the Giants coach, and Kevin O'Connell,
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the Vikings coach, have been connected since they started as
head coaches a couple of years ago. They both were
brilliant in one score games their rookie coaching years. They
got to the playoffs, they played each other. Brian Daball
wins Coach of the Year. Brian Dable goes to Minnesota
beats Kevin O'Connell and the Vikings on the road in
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the playffs with Daniel Jones. Last year, there's regression from
the Giants because Daniel Jones isn't playing. The Vikings lose
their quarterback too, and they regressed significantly less. Now, granted
they had justin Jefferson to me this year, This game
was supposed to be a little bit about a coaching matchup.
Did Kevin O'Connell just completely out coach Brian Daball Or
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did the Giants just have zero talent on their team,
especially in the defensive backfield.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
You could say that, but it's also just you talked
about though Sam Donald came out hot. Man, It's just
I don't I'm not sure to read too much into
because it is week one. I said that to you,
though I told you the Giants have a horrible secondary.
It's not like the secondary of the Vikings is that
much better, right, and Brian floor has made it work.
So it's like, you know, I don't want to make
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excuses for this Giants team, but they just they came
out flat. The Vikings did not like their offense was humming.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
You just said it.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
They went ninety nine yards. Like Sam Donald goes ninety
nine yards, you ain't winning your bet.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
That's your dead.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
So yeah, like you said, you eat some humble pie
here and get back after.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
But two games are not gonna rereacting. I'll tell you
this much. The books respect this Vikings team.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I saw a couple of lines open, you know them
plus six them plus five and a half at the
forty nine ers next week check. So definitely an interesting,
interesting team that could be a little bit of a
sleeper team.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well, I want to talk about that in a minute.
So you said it about the Giants defensive back.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Just one thing. I was watching this game and.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
The Giants had stopped the Vikings on third down, you know,
from the one or whatever, and you're thinking, all right,
the Vikings are gonna do the smart thing.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
They're going to go for the field goal.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And then they line up to go for it, and
you see Justin Jefferson isolated against the Giants' top cornerback, who,
by the way, might be the one hundred and fiftieth
rated quarterback according to profol, Like, honest to god, he's
he's not even on their board.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
And it was such a actually.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
A good coverage there. It was just a good ball.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, dude, it was such an easy pitch and catch,
Like why would the Giants leave that guy against a
guy who was having one of an historic career. It
just said everything to me about yeah, that's a dead bet,
dead bet. I tried to keep my composure. I've tried
to keep my cool. My kid had a bunch of
buddies over and like I want I didn't want to
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be the dad who's like freaking out about his bets
in front of my son, and one was buddies, So like,
I kept my cool the whole time. We had a
couple of TVs going. We had the Bears game going.
We're going to talk about the Bears, so that could
occupy me. I will say when we got to the
end of the Colts game, I was getting a little
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bit excited about it because this one was just a
fun sweat and it kind of played out exactly like
we thought it would play out. We had the Colts
plus two and a half in the contest. CJ was amazing.
He threw it for a first down on fourth down
from his knees in the first quarter. Had just miraculous
plays at one point, like he threw across the field
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across his body on a third down, like but going
both ways.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
This was an amazing game, amazing game.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Amazing game, and nothing was breaking right for us in
any way. And so now we still got the cover,
which rarely works out for you when games just aren't
breaking away.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I mean we literally that says something though that says
something to me about both teams, which we're going.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
To talk about.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah, I think it says a lot about Anthony Richardson. Honestly,
like this kid, we all see it. The talent is
incredible and it is just so raw, Like it's so raw.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
You know, he.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Lost that game, like he kept him in it, but
end of the day, he is the reason they lost.
Like Shane Styken call it an amazing game. Like there
was multiple times he had wide open guys and then
he didn't have open guys and he went for those
guys anyway and it worked out for him.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Like he really was just so up and down in
that game. But yeah, that.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Missing the open touchdown and throwing the pick right after
usually that's you know, a fourteen point at least ten
point swing in some ways, right, and they come down
And I love Dumiko Ryans. That's why they're a team
I was scared of coming to this year. He don't care,
like he knows the deal. He's not messing around, so
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like you know, they're in fourth and goal. I mean,
I can't remember it might be five percent of the
time in my life I've ever seen coaches go for
it in that spot right, you kick the field goal,
you're up five.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You're talking about you're talking about the end of the game.
They're up the very one of the game thing, and
it's late in the fourth quarter. They get stopped on
fourth down and like on Thursday, Strowd, such a gamer.
They go for it, and we needed them to go
for it, like the Gambler's math.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Play that out.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
It's twenty two to nothing, they kick the field goal,
it's twenty five nothing like we don't like the The
only option then for the Colts is to score a
touchdown because the field goal won't be enough and they
won't have enough time. But if they don't get the touchdown,
then they lose by five. And it just feels you
feel even sicker because you know you came within a
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player or two, you know, versus twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
So it's funny your brand works.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
There were on the other way where I wanted them
to go for that. I was like, they stopped it.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I did too.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
All the momentum is all on the Colts and they
will win this game by a field goal. They'll drive
the field, they'll kick a field goal here, they'll win this.
So I was happy they went I for it. I mean,
shame on me. They called the perfect play. Stephan Diggs
was going against air. He was wide open in that
corner for that touchdown like that. That's a great, great
play by a great player. So yeah, Houston, everything we
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talked about coming to the season, they're they're living up
to it.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Right.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
All the pieces they added, Joe Mix and Stefan Diggs,
they all showed up in a big way. We had
questions coming to hear about their defense. None was answered, right.
That was such a weird game where it's like, did they.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Do okay against the run? Sure? Do they have issues
still in the secondary? Yeah, clearly. I mean they couldn't
stop the deep ball.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
So Houston, they're exciting, But I think I still think
there's a reason we had a little bit of doubt
of them coming to the year. But I think we
both agree, right, Yeah, they're they're the best in this
division and that was apparent today, right. They just they
looked like a more mature, more complete team, and their
coach's confidence in them is incredible. Like Damiko Rans we
already talked about. It's just I love those type of
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things because that breed's confidence for that team going forward,
So huge, huge, huge divisional win for Houston and the Colts.
Now going next week to Green Bay, that's become a
must win game, like you can't start the year zero
and two for the Colts.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So yeah, pretty wild that game.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
How so many Domino pieces fell in that game to
set up the rest of the season.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Well, look, you said this about Daniel Jones, the same
as true for Bryce Young. It's the opposite for Anthony Richardson.
You never feel with Anthony Richardson like you're out of
the game the way you do with someone like Daniel
Jones or Bryce Young. And you mentioned he missed a
wide open touchdown, He had a throw to Oudoni Mitchell
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that went over his head and then the pick. He
did the same thing to Mitchell later.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
In the game.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, and follows it up with a sixty yard bomb
in the double coverage that gets them back in the game.
And then he up running four on fourth down, carrying
guys into the goal line, backing in full on, backwards walk,
using the glutes, using the hammies. That stuff is paying off,
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and he gets into the end zone and then they
kick the extra point.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
They end up losing twenty nine to twenty seven. We
get the cover.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
So I never like we're gonna want to continue to
bet Anthony Richardson and Shane Steichen because of the plays
that he calls all season long, which is always the
more they lose, the more value we're going to think
there is on the Indianapolis Cults.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Here's the thing about CJ. Stroup. They needed him to
make a throw.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
They had like a third down and eleven or something
just after the two minute warning. They convert that play,
they win the game.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
They got a punt, Indy's got an opportunity to run
to go down the field and kick a field goal.
He rose a dot that a guy catches, gets his
knee down.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Nico Collins ride one hundred and seventeen yards. Incredible game.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Dude, Like c J. Stroud is just different.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
He's just different. He started the game eight for nine.
That changes the calculus on everything.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
No wonder. The Texans are sixteen to one.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
No wonder. I wanted to bet them in all my
Super Bowl matchups because he can. He can, he can
cover up any weaknesses that the defense has, I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Especially for him.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
That was a bad game by him, honestly, by even
his own standors, like they're taking threes, and he kept
saying that, like, we can't keep taking these threes again.
That's why I think Demiico Ryans into that game went
for that because he was just like, I'm not kicking
another field goal and the inside the red zone, we're
going for it here.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
So look, also had two picks overturned right one one
was ruled in.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Again, that's what I kept thinking, we weren't going to
get a chat, like it just kept not going our way,
Like this guy picks it, incredible pick and it's like nope,
your heel actually just touched out, and it's like, oh
my god, I can't get.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Then another one, the guy picked him off in the
red zone and they called it back because they called
the penalty on them. We got So that's why we're
one and two. We got the Colts, right, dreadful with
the Panthers and the Giants. We're going to move on
in the next twenty four hours. We're going to start
getting excited about next week.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, typical.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
That was the only two games we got wrong on
the one pm slate, so that it was making.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Me sick watching these things. Yeah, we got two games remaining.
We got the Lions minus three and a half. That
line's out to five, so we feel good about the
number Jets we got it.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
That better worked out because that was the reason we
did not switch out the Giants, because we wanted to
keep that three and a half right.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
So what happened was this morning, Simon and I were
going over the slate and one of the games like
really the game that we had talked about that we
kept looking at and like, why aren't we talking more
about this game with Jags at three and a half.
So obviously we did bet that game. We didn't take
it out because we liked the Lions at three and
a half. The value was there and a lot of
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the lines to change, like if we if we changed
up our picks, we would have had to take the
lines at four and a half, and we didn't want
to lose that because we liked it so much. So
it's tough, but the Jags, like, the Jags were so
much better and then Travis atn bundles the ball at
the two yard Linde when they're going up twenty four
to seven, they kind of lost their way.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
They only had one pass after that.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
They like Trevor Lawrence was brilliant in the first half,
ended up with less than two hundred yards and twelve completions.
Doug Peterson went forward in his own like thirty yard
line on fourth down with a lot of time left, Like,
what happened here?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
This? They should have dominated this game.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
It's the Miami heat.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
They put you in the sun when they're in the
shade and they cook you, and whatever happened, I have
to blame the heat.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
The man lost his mind. Doug Pierson lost his mind.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Trevor Lawrence was really having a good game, honestly, really
had in that first half.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Dude, when he was in that first half, I'm like,
Trevor Lawrence, twenty two to one those passing yard.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
We got this locked.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
So that's what happened.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
No, I just like it just it was all smooth,
and like you said, they got away from their identity
in the second half, and it's like I went back
and watched. I mean, I guess you could say they
were getting a lot more pressure in the second half Miami,
and maybe that's why, you know, Douglas Trunk counter that
was running the ball more. But no, that's that's a
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classic case of they're just that's a bad team that
lost a bad game, right, Like if they if they
had kind of been a different team this year, that's
kind of game you need to close out and win.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Right, that's a playoff team.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
From last year in Miami. Yeah, you had them on
the ropes the whole game.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
You're dominating.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Like you said, you fumbled out of the back of
the end zone. Okay, that's a turning point. They come
down the field, tire kill whoever it was, scored a touchdown.
Then you bounce back right. Then you come back out
there and you drive the field and get at least
a field goal there like you said, nothing Like they've
threed and now punted the rest.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Of the game.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
And you know, Miami didn't play that well, but they
took advantage and they found a way to win. And
that's and then of the day. That's what makes great
teams for football. Like if you just somehow can find
a way to win on your worst day, you're a
really good team. So yeah, hats off to Miami and
just the coaching staff, like they kept their guys in it.
Tua never broke right. He was struggling as well. He
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was having a bad game game, stuck with it, like
he was missing open guys too, and he stuck with him.
In the fourth quarter, he was on point, like making
big throws. And you know, Devon a Chan like another
guy that you know last year couldn't stay healthy, right,
but everyone knows a talent level. He really showed up
in that second half as well. I mean he was
running the ball so well. So huge game from Miami,
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But I mean you were pissed because we knew that
was a good cover number. That was a good number
three and a half on two what we viewed as
equally even teams, and that number was never in doubt, right,
whatever it was, I think it was a six yard
field goal to win it by Miami. So yeah, could
just anyone that took the three and a half.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Those games, the Jags and the Colts basically ended back
to back on red zone. They were the two box
at the end, and I'm like, I need I need
both of these games, not just for the contest, but
just for my slate of bets today. I need them
for my lungs. The only thing I can take solace
in is that I only went half a unit on
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the Giants because I just like at the end of the.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Day, I'm jealous.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I just I just believing and like, look, but that's
the worst.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Thing too, that like we said though, like I'm minute
in I was, even though they they were up three,
I just regretted it. I was like, why am I
so heavy on Daniel Jones? So you made the right
move there. But we're gonna Bears game. We're gonna get
to this Bears game or what talk about.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I just want to say one thing about the Steelers.
I'm going to give you your flat hours for the Bears. Uh,
shame on us. On Tuesday, We're like, we like the
Jags and we like the Steelers. Why aren't we doing
the Jags and the Steelers? And then all week we
talked about this is a Mike Tomlin makes it ugly,
wins is an underdog game. This is what he has
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done for sixteen seventeen years. He is the best coach
against the spread as a dog. He is the best
coach outright as a dog in the past twenty years,
better than Belichick, better than Sean Payton, better than Mike Vrabel,
better than all the coaches who have dominated for betters.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Let the greatest of all time. Look at your work.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
We suck and when TJ Will plays, they're like that
changes the calculus for everything. Yeah, we are terrible people,
non strategic, stupid, stubborn, blinded by our own biases. We
deserve to be one and two right now because we
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could be three and m.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
And I think, honestly, what got me Chad was just
again I overacted too much to It was the fact
that it was unknown who the quarterback was going to be,
and I had questions about their offensive line, and my
thinking was, well, I don't know how they're going to
keep up with Atlanta where we nailed on Tuesday. We said,
this is Kirk cousins first start going against the top
five defense, Like this was a nightmare. Snaiy to put
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this guy in and he failed. Like that's what the
worst part was. We capted it perfectly. It was like,
did it.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Matter that the offensive line's bad on Pittsburgh and that
it was justin field?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
No, I mean they can kick five field goals or
six field goals and all work out for him, just
because that defense is so incredibly talented. So that was
as Mike Tomlin as it can get, right.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
I probably do have a talent for understanding people, But
is it a talent is not just listening when they talking?
For real coaches like the think we listen, coaches don't listen.
They wait for dude's mouse to stop moving.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
All hard all grit offense was terrible. I mean it
really was at times just horrible. But you know, with
Fields they can run that kind of spread option, right,
they can run in and spread you out, and you
know it does not score touchdowns, but at least move
the ball where Atlanta could not move the ball, and
when they would JJ would pop up and make a
huge playing kind of flipped the game.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So yeah, brutal, brutal leave them that went.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Off, especially because that's like a game we nailed talking
about and just a game we always taken that spot.
But I think it's just tough where it's like you
hear so much noise, I'm here so much from the
peanut gallery that doesn't make you a question you're thinking
of It was like, you know, they're right, their offensive
line is bad and justin fields does.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Burn us in these kind of spots.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
And that number did go from two and a half
to closing at four and a half by kickoff, So Yeah,
some professionals winning heavy on Atlanta and they clearly got
burned by it. But yeah, lesson learn like we we
like Pittsburgh in those kind of spots. That was one
of their easier games we'll have all season matchup wise,
and we definitely missed on it.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, and don't we have listened to the Peanut Gallery
and the Panthers and the Giants because I would have
rather have listened to them on Matt and.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Definitely the Giants Vikings one that was the toughest. Yeah,
the Peanut Gallery was.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Heavy on the Vikings and I was just like, Nah,
you don't know, you don't.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Know, somebody knows. Oh, the irony. Everyone loves the Ravens.
Everyone loves the Bengals. Everyone's enamored with the Browns defense
that just gave up a million points to Dak Prescott,
the highest paid quarterback ever. Now the only team to
win in the AFC North this week. Pittsburgh Steelers, congrats guys,
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more one Mike Tomlin score one for going over their
wind total. Let's see if they can keep the streak alive.
I do want to there's a couple things we gotta say.
The Bears.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
You nailed it like flowers for you.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I couldn't get myself there, and for the first half
it looked like I was one hundred percent right. But
I very specifically did not text you it's not going
to say anything because it's a long game.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I literally had no joke, forty five text messages on
my Bears text chain from the first half, which I
didn't answer because like, I'm taking notes on the games,
and I'm freaking out of at our bets and I'm
trying to keep my cool with all these people in
my house, Like I just can't engage. Caleb Williams already
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looked broken, like in the second half he was. It
looked like he was literally pushing the ball instead of
throwing it. He was leaving the pocket the second his
first read wasn't there.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Yeah, like Keen Allen's dropping wide open touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Dropping passes.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
The good news is he had a Hall of Fame
kneel down, and really, I don't think any bare quarterback
has ever looked better kneeling down than Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
But this was not a win to be proud of.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I would say it is. I mean, a win's a win.
I don't care how you get it, but to me,
it was good man. You got to see him get
humbled and he realized, like the scrambling back ten yards
is all funn and que when it works out. When
it doesn't work out and you lose twenty yards and
take your team out of field goal position, and.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Chicago's letting you know you're an idiot. He needs that.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Like this kid, he's had a little bit too good
in his life, right, and this is this is gonna
be a good year for Caleb Blims. This is the
reason though, that I, me and you were laughing about
their win total over nine and a half and just
saw the hyper getting you know, Nick Wright's picking them
to go to the super Bowl. It's just like you're
a rookie. There's a reason we were so enamored with CJ. Right,
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Like CJ going twenty three touches on five picks. You
don't see that kind of composure from rookies. You see
what we saw today from all the rookies right struggling.
Like that's another thing I was pissed about. It is
I told you whatever that was two weeks ago. I'm like,
we should fade these rookies on the road here just
because it's it is so tough, right in your first
start on the road. I mean Williams showed that at home,
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how tough it is, right when the fans turned on
him a little bit that first half. I can't imagine
what the locker room was like for the bearers, right,
I mean it's seventeen nothing or whatever. It was seventeen three.
But when I made the bet, my whole point was
I just thought ten See was bad and I thought
will Levis was bad. And it took a while to
get there, Chad, right, it took a little bit for
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him to.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
You know what. He was bad. He got bad.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
He was bad.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
It's just like when it's third and seven, you got
no hope with will Levis, Like there's a couple of
kbs like that, and you know, I never thought the
number would get there, right, just because there were in
such a hole. And it was like, well, if they
get up to twenty one seventeen, they can cover the
four and I can get my three and a half.
Check can get his four and a half. No, No,
will Levis didn't even better. He threw a pick six.
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I think Stucky had the tweet. It was like amazing.
It was basically, how often does the team come back
from down seventeen to win a game with zero offensive touchdowns?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I don't know if that's ever happened before. You either astonishing,
it's astonishing.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
So, like you said, Chad, that's good teams win those
kind of games. And I know it's hard for you
as a Chicagoan because you've just been through the fucking ringer,
but I'd be positive, like this is exciting going forward
because they do have a lot to build on, a
work on, and that to me is like that was
one of the worst offensive performances we'll see this season.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I think from Caleb Williams, I think he'll get better.
That was just he said he doesn't get nervous. Dude,
you're human.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
You clearly get nervous, because he was full of jitter's
not game and happy feet. So yeah, I don't know
if we'll bet them next week because it's it's under
a touchdown right now in Houston at home on Monday
night against the Bear. So I will be honest with
you chat right now. I did throw a little bit
on Houston right now while it's under seven, just because
I do think that number is gonna go up.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
All right, well let's talk about him. So just a reminder,
we've got the Lions tonight. We're not gonna spend too
much time on the Lions because we've talked about him
so much.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
But uh, don't minus five though, that feels like that's
totally gone value wise.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Yeah, we were on the Lions at three and a half.
We're on the line.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
I'm taking them four and a half too, But at
four and a half, it's just like, come on the survivor.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
We had the Bengals. That's a bummer.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
We also had the Seahawks, so we split in sort
of the pools that we're in.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Still alive, We'll keep talking about.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Its up to five and a half now. Lines at
bet three six.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Five, Jesus, jeez, jesus over unders fifty three, I mean,
throw if you missed everything, you haven't bet anything in
this game.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Throw it on the end here that that's a really
high number.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Nick Giffin likes the under on the first half of
corning to wa.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Do that thing. Yeah, goo roll with Nick and his
luck rankings.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I like that couple of Week two lines that I
just want to get to before we get out of here.
You just mentioned Houston five and a half, right, six
and a half. It's up to six and a half
over the Bears.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
It could be a lesser book. Our sponsor's book is
six and a half.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I just saw Buffalo Miami. Buffalo opened is a one
point underdog at Miami. That line I just saw move
to one and a half. I don't know what you're
seeing on Beth three six five right now.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, I mean Buffalo's defense might be absolutely dog shit.
So I get I get why the professionals are coming
to Miami and then they're at home in a short week.
But yeah, we'll wait for that one to talk wu'sday.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
A couple of games that interested me. I know it's
terrible to say this. Cincinnati they're plus six. Obviously we
got to wait and see what happens. Well, we know
what's going to happen. It's Cincinnati plus six. For a second,
I forgot there. We're playing the Chiefs and not the Niners.
Cincinnati plus six, like.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Probably know, my Simon says, bet I already took the
six and a half. It's down to six. I'll take
the six as well.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
It's like like that line could go up over the
course of the week with all the I don't think.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I don't know if they're pros al out at chet
because this is already insane. It was three and a
half before games kicked off today. Are the Bengals three
points worse than they were twelve hours ago?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah, it's just we talk all the time.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
It's over overaction. The week one like that, that game,
everything went wrong. They're about to score the go ahead touchdown,
the guy fumbles into the end zone, right, they get
a kick, the guy who muffs the punt, Like, it's
just I think the commentator said they only had two
fumbles all of last season.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
They had two in that game.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Just half.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yeah, so that's just a game from hell. So it's
like me and Chad, I know, it's gross pool. You
have to buy a loan in these scenarios. So we
we love Mahomes. We always talk about this on our show.
We love Mahomes at less than three point favorite.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
So if he's.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Two and a half or if he's an underdog, we
buy in Mahomes. We always fade Mahomes when it's over four.
We just always do it because he always plays in
these close games. So Chad, You're so right calling this
game out first. This is one of my favorite games
that popped up for this early buying.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
By the way, Evan just threw this one stat into
the chat that I need to read to people, and
it's germane. For a couple of reasons, one, bet three
sixty five has an incredible early payout offer. If any
team that you've bet on goes up by seventeen points,
your bet automatically cash is So if the other team
comes back to win, doesn't matter. You've cast your bet low.
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And behold that happened with the Titans today. So they lost,
but you won your bet if you bet with bet
three six five. If you went because they got up
seventeen to nothing, dogs are four points to lead by
seventeen plus at any point in a game, we're sixty
six one and one against the spread. It's twenty nineteen.
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They are now sixty six two and one against the spread.
The other game, two other games, Dallas is minus six.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Love it right now.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I say, we grab it as soon as I saw
that number come out.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
It's Dallas at home against a bad team like we
always we always played Dallas. Yeahs, and especially that bad
team is the Saint who just put up fifty points
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
It was like, if this game to me, this game
and you'll do your numbers this week. But I feel
like this game should be at least a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
I think that's what it will be. I think I'll
either at seven or seven and a half.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
So the fact that you can get six six and
a half right now, I just grab it before it
does go to seven.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Opinion.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
All right, those were the games. Anything else I'm missing?
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Yeah, I grabbed Colts minus three right now, just in
case it is Milik Willis right, that's what they're saying, Chad,
I know Ryan Tannehill has gotten some buzz yep. So
that's Ryan Tannehill coming off of beaching Bahamas to be
their quarterback and playing a game in six days.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
So it's like either quarterback, whoever it is. I'm feeling
confident about this bet. Right.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
So there's a reason Green Bay and we had to
give up a seventh round pick to get their starting
quarterback right now?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
So yeah, this.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
I wanted to be on Green Bay because I thought
this line would be like six or something, and the
fact that it's just three right now, I would just
grab because I could see the public coming in this
number going up.
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through the games, starting with the losers. I know everyone
in the chat wants to come after us because we
have so been all about the Panthers. And we got
fucking kicked in the dick, and then we got stomped,
and then we got our head smashed in, and then
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someone reached deep deep down our throats and pulled our
stomach out and then squeezed the juice is on our
face and we melted. That's how disgusting it was. And
it wasn't even as bad as what the Panthers did
on the field.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Shut up, shut up.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I felt like we were tired in the Panthers.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
We believe the panthers bad luck with penalties and turnovers
could not continue. We believe the offensive line would be better,
receivers would be better, coaching would be better, Bryce Young
would be better. Simon, everything bad last season for the
Panthers was bad in this game.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah, when I have family members that I barely talk
to that barely even watch football, texting me, how the
hell did you like this Panthers team? I always like,
Jesus Christ, this is not where we want to go.
I've had a couple of fans reach out to US
NASA US. Why don't we simply every week bet against
the Panthers and see if that works, because clearly would.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Have worked last year, and it's off to a hot
start this year.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I say not to overreact too much to one game,
but I think, I mean, you both agree Bryce Young
might be out of this league in a year like
this guy doesn't really fit the part.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So I know you have a little bit of rant
about bry S Young here, Chad, but I'm.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
With the fans. I don't care that next week. We
both think there's value on the line. I'm not betting them.
I'm not giving them out on the show. So go ahead, Chaed.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Well look right now, Carolina, I think is what's the lion.
It's five and a half at home. They're plus five
and a half at home against the Chargers. Obviously you
look at that number and you have to say to yourself, yeah,
there's value on the Panthers.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We're not going to recommend that. We're not going to
say that.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Last year, the Panthers averaged just four point one yards
per play. That's the worst mark for any team since
the Bengals in.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
They had three point five yards per play today. Thank
you Evan for putting that in our chat here. Look,
we can go through the stats and believe all of
the things that I said are true about the Panthers.
Better coaching, better talent around Bryce Young, he's just awful.
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Like that first look, first throw interception. And it's not
like there's no urgency. This is in when he's in
the pocket. You see guys in the pocket and they
have a sense that things are clapping collapsing around them.
They start to step up. They're sliding left, they're sliding right,
they look like the of trying to put themselves in
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a position to make a play. He just stands there
until it's almost completely collapsed on him. And because he's
so tiny, it's almost impossible for him to make the
right play because he's in a position where he's going
to make a bad throw because he can't see anything.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I know.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
It's like, I'm not trying to make fun of the guy. No,
he's just he's terrible at this.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
And yeah, it's the same reason like I talked about.
You know last year right had a second round great
in the guys, if you want to be a first
round pick, there's always one thing this guy does great, right,
better than everyone else?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
C J. Stroud.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
The two best things will see the shot is his
pocket pocket awareness and his accuracy deep down the field.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Brayshung coming out. He was just good at everything, right,
Wasn't that what they told us? Jad?
Speaker 4 (06:47):
And it's like, okay, but what's he great at? And
when you watch this stuff, he's not great at anything. Right.
He doesn't have great pocket awareness, hasn't great move in
the in the pocket, he doesn't have great arm talent. Right,
there was guys open today that he was missing.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Got burned bad today on them for a decent amount
of money, and I just I don't care. We can
keep it moving because I don't want to waste any
more time on them. I'm just totally discussing what I
saw today, and I'm hoping tomorrow next week. You know,
it's a new team that was just a one off, right,
that's the hope, because we actually bet on their futures.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
But right now, zero confidence and Bryce Shawan.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Here's the problem. And I like to wallow in my misery.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Like I felt so sick all day that about this
game and about this bet and how much we touted
this team, and like it just I'm in agony about it.
So I just want to I just want to get
it all out, like they made the New Orleans Saints,
who we genuinely believe are not good, right, and their
defensive line is older, their offensive line isn't as good.
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Derek Carr first long pass, sixty yards touchdown. Derek Carr
looked like a world beater today against this team. Dennis
Allen didn't have to be a bad coach because he
didn't have to coach.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
They were up thirty to three at halftime.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Like the Panthers did everything that the Panthers did the
previous year. The game was not out of hand in
the first half, and they had a really smartly designed
play where they pitched it out. I think it was
Miles Sanders ran for a first down on a long
third down holding penalty comes back, they give the ball
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back to the Saints they had I think they were
down twenty to nothing, So like not over right still
first half. If you believe in the team, we believe
in the coach. We think they've got some talent. It's
not over fumble on a reverse after they gain a
first down, Like every single time with this team, they're
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just like none of them look like they know how
to play. It's like you go to Carolina and you're
in affected. You're infected with some kind of like panther virus.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, and that just when it starts going bad though,
it just goes terrible. Right, They're just terrible. They don't
have any real leadership. That's probably another issue for this team.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Well, speaking of terrible, we were on the Giants today
at plus one and a half. We almost pulled it
out of the contest today and we're going to get
to sort of why we didn't and games that we
were going to put in, all of which were winners today,
which is another thing that's making even more sick.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
When did Sam Darnold become Sam? I am the man?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Because he started ten for ten, like I think he
had two incompletions of the whole game and threw for
more than two hundred yards he had. He started ten
for ten with one hundred and thirty six yards in
a touchdown. They had an eleven play, ninety nine yard
drive that ended with a fourth.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Down time touchdown throat. That's what all world qbs do.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Did we see anything here that justified the confidence we
had in the Giants? Did get did we get taken?
Did we fool ourselves? Do we misread?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Like? Are we off for too?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
On the teams that we were convinced might have some value?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I would say Daniel Jones definitely looked rusty. I thought
he would be rusty, but I thought overall they'd played better.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
But yeah, like you just nailed.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Sam Darnold started the game temper ten and he was
on fire. And then he did eventually turn back into
a pumpkin. He threw a pick and he just like
the second half, they didn't do anything like they were
incredible in the first half.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Once they got to pick six off.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Daniel Jones, it's like, all right, we don't need to
do a single thing now, we can just pack it
in because they knew that their defense was good enough
that they really needed to do much.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I think that was the most surprising part to me
is that, you know, Brian Flores had this defense play
amazing last year. I thought naturally they'd regress just because
they played so of obviously that's not great. Littin the test, right,
it's Daniel Jones and his first started for coming back
off a major injury, which we don't have talk. We'll
get to it, probably that Pittsburgh game. But like you
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saw Kirk Cousins, right, he looked rusty. Like coming off
major injuries in your first start, you play rusty.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
So yeah, I love the.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Under in this game, love the Giants, like I just
had a game scripted the other way. Honestly, I thought
that the Giants would be the ones playing well and
the Vikings would struggle.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And you know, when the game.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Started, I think the Vikings, you know, they got a
sack on Sam Darnold, then they got a fumble recovery,
didn't didn't score a touchdown, like kicked the field goal,
and it's just like in the back of mind, I'm
just thinking, yeah, like this is this is not a
good team, right, so.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Sucks.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Right we got caugh up there with the Giants, but
I'm not totally out on them. Still, it's just you know,
another team that's like, like you just said, we'd other
the other teams we talked about. I would have felt
way better having a lot of money on those quarterbacks
as a dog than I did at any time with
Daniel Jones. Like once it started, it's always our realization
of just like this was not the spot to go
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heavy on Daniel Jones and this team, right, It's like
why did we not wait and see? But still you
know that that is a tough one where it's like
we played the number and we thought we had a
good number. That's what you said, Like we said we
didn't switch it out because we thought we had a
good number.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It was never a good number. That was just a
bad bet.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Now, Daniel Jones was what twenty two or forty two
I think for less than two hundred yards average and
two picks right and averaged four point four yards per completion,
two picks, including the pick six and a pick six
that he threw in sort of inside the twenty I think,
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and then inside his own twenty. And then he also
threw an interception in the Vikings end zone when the
Giants were driving that sort of just ended it. I
do think this rage is, you know, an interesting coaching
question which we had had a lot during the offseason
because da Ball. Brian Dable, the Giants coach, and Kevin O'Connell,
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the Vikings coach, have been connected since they started as
head coaches a couple of years ago. They both were
brilliant in one score games their rookie coaching years. They
got to the playoffs, they played each other. Brian Daball
wins Coach of the Year. Brian Dable goes to Minnesota
beats Kevin O'Connell and the Vikings on the road in
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the playffs with Daniel Jones. Last year, there's regression from
the Giants because Daniel Jones isn't playing. The Vikings lose
their quarterback too, and they regressed significantly less. Now, granted
they had justin Jefferson to me this year, This game
was supposed to be a little bit about a coaching matchup.
Did Kevin O'Connell just completely out coach Brian Daball Or
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did the Giants just have zero talent on their team,
especially in the defensive backfield.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
You could say that, but it's also just you talked
about though Sam Donald came out hot. Man, It's just
I don't I'm not sure to read too much into
because it is week one. I said that to you,
though I told you the Giants have a horrible secondary.
It's not like the secondary of the Vikings is that
much better, right, and Brian floor has made it work.
So it's like, you know, I don't want to make
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excuses for this Giants team, but they just they came
out flat. The Vikings did not like their offense was humming.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
You just said it.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
They went ninety nine yards. Like Sam Donald goes ninety
nine yards, you ain't winning your bet.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
That's your dead.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
So yeah, like you said, you eat some humble pie
here and get back after.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
But two games are not gonna rereacting. I'll tell you
this much. The books respect this Vikings team.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I saw a couple of lines open, you know them
plus six them plus five and a half at the
forty nine ers next week check. So definitely an interesting,
interesting team that could be a little bit of a
sleeper team.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well, I want to talk about that in a minute.
So you said it about the Giants defensive back.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Just one thing. I was watching this game and.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
The Giants had stopped the Vikings on third down, you know,
from the one or whatever, and you're thinking, all right,
the Vikings are gonna do the smart thing.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
They're going to go for the field goal.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And then they line up to go for it, and
you see Justin Jefferson isolated against the Giants' top cornerback, who,
by the way, might be the one hundred and fiftieth
rated quarterback according to profol, Like, honest to god, he's
he's not even on their board.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
And it was such a actually.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
A good coverage there. It was just a good ball.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, dude, it was such an easy pitch and catch,
Like why would the Giants leave that guy against a
guy who was having one of an historic career. It
just said everything to me about yeah, that's a dead bet,
dead bet. I tried to keep my composure. I've tried
to keep my cool. My kid had a bunch of
buddies over and like I want I didn't want to
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be the dad who's like freaking out about his bets
in front of my son, and one was buddies, So like,
I kept my cool the whole time. We had a
couple of TVs going. We had the Bears game going.
We're going to talk about the Bears, so that could
occupy me. I will say when we got to the
end of the Colts game, I was getting a little
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bit excited about it because this one was just a
fun sweat and it kind of played out exactly like
we thought it would play out. We had the Colts
plus two and a half in the contest. CJ was amazing.
He threw it for a first down on fourth down
from his knees in the first quarter. Had just miraculous
plays at one point, like he threw across the field
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across his body on a third down, like but going
both ways.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
This was an amazing game, amazing game.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Amazing game, and nothing was breaking right for us in
any way. And so now we still got the cover,
which rarely works out for you when games just aren't
breaking away.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I mean we literally that says something though that says
something to me about both teams, which we're going.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
To talk about.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah, I think it says a lot about Anthony Richardson. Honestly,
like this kid, we all see it. The talent is
incredible and it is just so raw, Like it's so raw.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
You know, he.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Lost that game, like he kept him in it, but
end of the day, he is the reason they lost.
Like Shane Styken call it an amazing game. Like there
was multiple times he had wide open guys and then
he didn't have open guys and he went for those
guys anyway and it worked out for him.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Like he really was just so up and down in
that game. But yeah, that.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Missing the open touchdown and throwing the pick right after
usually that's you know, a fourteen point at least ten
point swing in some ways, right, and they come down
And I love Dumiko Ryans. That's why they're a team
I was scared of coming to this year. He don't care,
like he knows the deal. He's not messing around, so
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like you know, they're in fourth and goal. I mean,
I can't remember it might be five percent of the
time in my life I've ever seen coaches go for
it in that spot right, you kick the field goal,
you're up five.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You're talking about you're talking about the end of the game.
They're up the very one of the game thing, and
it's late in the fourth quarter. They get stopped on
fourth down and like on Thursday, Strowd, such a gamer.
They go for it, and we needed them to go
for it, like the Gambler's math.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Play that out.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
It's twenty two to nothing, they kick the field goal,
it's twenty five nothing like we don't like the The
only option then for the Colts is to score a
touchdown because the field goal won't be enough and they
won't have enough time. But if they don't get the touchdown,
then they lose by five. And it just feels you
feel even sicker because you know you came within a
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player or two, you know, versus twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
So it's funny your brand works.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
There were on the other way where I wanted them
to go for that. I was like, they stopped it.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I did too.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
All the momentum is all on the Colts and they
will win this game by a field goal. They'll drive
the field, they'll kick a field goal here, they'll win this.
So I was happy they went I for it. I mean,
shame on me. They called the perfect play. Stephan Diggs
was going against air. He was wide open in that
corner for that touchdown like that. That's a great, great
play by a great player. So yeah, Houston, everything we
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talked about coming to the season, they're they're living up
to it.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Right.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
All the pieces they added, Joe Mix and Stefan Diggs,
they all showed up in a big way. We had
questions coming to hear about their defense. None was answered, right.
That was such a weird game where it's like, did they.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Do okay against the run? Sure? Do they have issues
still in the secondary? Yeah, clearly. I mean they couldn't
stop the deep ball.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
So Houston, they're exciting, But I think I still think
there's a reason we had a little bit of doubt
of them coming to the year. But I think we
both agree, right, Yeah, they're they're the best in this
division and that was apparent today, right. They just they
looked like a more mature, more complete team, and their
coach's confidence in them is incredible. Like Damiko Rans we
already talked about. It's just I love those type of
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things because that breed's confidence for that team going forward,
So huge, huge, huge divisional win for Houston and the Colts.
Now going next week to Green Bay, that's become a
must win game, like you can't start the year zero
and two for the Colts.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So yeah, pretty wild that game.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
How so many Domino pieces fell in that game to
set up the rest of the season.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Well, look, you said this about Daniel Jones, the same
as true for Bryce Young. It's the opposite for Anthony Richardson.
You never feel with Anthony Richardson like you're out of
the game the way you do with someone like Daniel
Jones or Bryce Young. And you mentioned he missed a
wide open touchdown, He had a throw to Oudoni Mitchell
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that went over his head and then the pick. He
did the same thing to Mitchell later.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
In the game.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, and follows it up with a sixty yard bomb
in the double coverage that gets them back in the game.
And then he up running four on fourth down, carrying
guys into the goal line, backing in full on, backwards walk,
using the glutes, using the hammies. That stuff is paying off,
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and he gets into the end zone and then they
kick the extra point.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
They end up losing twenty nine to twenty seven. We
get the cover.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
So I never like we're gonna want to continue to
bet Anthony Richardson and Shane Steichen because of the plays
that he calls all season long, which is always the
more they lose, the more value we're going to think
there is on the Indianapolis Cults.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Here's the thing about CJ. Stroup. They needed him to
make a throw.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
They had like a third down and eleven or something
just after the two minute warning. They convert that play,
they win the game.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
They got a punt, Indy's got an opportunity to run
to go down the field and kick a field goal.
He rose a dot that a guy catches, gets his
knee down.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Nico Collins ride one hundred and seventeen yards. Incredible game.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Dude, Like c J. Stroud is just different.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
He's just different. He started the game eight for nine.
That changes the calculus on everything.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
No wonder. The Texans are sixteen to one.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
No wonder. I wanted to bet them in all my
Super Bowl matchups because he can. He can, he can
cover up any weaknesses that the defense has, I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Especially for him.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
That was a bad game by him, honestly, by even
his own standors, like they're taking threes, and he kept
saying that, like, we can't keep taking these threes again.
That's why I think Demiico Ryans into that game went
for that because he was just like, I'm not kicking
another field goal and the inside the red zone, we're
going for it here.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
So look, also had two picks overturned right one one
was ruled in.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Again, that's what I kept thinking, we weren't going to
get a chat, like it just kept not going our way,
Like this guy picks it, incredible pick and it's like nope,
your heel actually just touched out, and it's like, oh
my god, I can't get.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Then another one, the guy picked him off in the
red zone and they called it back because they called
the penalty on them. We got So that's why we're
one and two. We got the Colts, right, dreadful with
the Panthers and the Giants. We're going to move on
in the next twenty four hours. We're going to start
getting excited about next week.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, typical.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
That was the only two games we got wrong on
the one pm slate, so that it was making.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Me sick watching these things. Yeah, we got two games remaining.
We got the Lions minus three and a half. That
line's out to five, so we feel good about the
number Jets we got it.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
That better worked out because that was the reason we
did not switch out the Giants, because we wanted to
keep that three and a half right.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
So what happened was this morning, Simon and I were
going over the slate and one of the games like
really the game that we had talked about that we
kept looking at and like, why aren't we talking more
about this game with Jags at three and a half.
So obviously we did bet that game. We didn't take
it out because we liked the Lions at three and
a half. The value was there and a lot of
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the lines to change, like if we if we changed
up our picks, we would have had to take the
lines at four and a half, and we didn't want
to lose that because we liked it so much. So
it's tough, but the Jags, like, the Jags were so
much better and then Travis atn bundles the ball at
the two yard Linde when they're going up twenty four
to seven, they kind of lost their way.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
They only had one pass after that.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
They like Trevor Lawrence was brilliant in the first half,
ended up with less than two hundred yards and twelve completions.
Doug Peterson went forward in his own like thirty yard
line on fourth down with a lot of time left, Like,
what happened here?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
This? They should have dominated this game.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
It's the Miami heat.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
They put you in the sun when they're in the
shade and they cook you, and whatever happened, I have
to blame the heat.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
The man lost his mind. Doug Pierson lost his mind.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Trevor Lawrence was really having a good game, honestly, really
had in that first half.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Dude, when he was in that first half, I'm like,
Trevor Lawrence, twenty two to one those passing yard.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
We got this locked.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
So that's what happened.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
No, I just like it just it was all smooth,
and like you said, they got away from their identity
in the second half, and it's like I went back
and watched. I mean, I guess you could say they
were getting a lot more pressure in the second half Miami,
and maybe that's why, you know, Douglas Trunk counter that
was running the ball more. But no, that's that's a
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classic case of they're just that's a bad team that
lost a bad game, right, Like if they if they
had kind of been a different team this year, that's
kind of game you need to close out and win.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Right, that's a playoff team.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
From last year in Miami. Yeah, you had them on
the ropes the whole game.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
You're dominating.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Like you said, you fumbled out of the back of
the end zone. Okay, that's a turning point. They come
down the field, tire kill whoever it was, scored a touchdown.
Then you bounce back right. Then you come back out
there and you drive the field and get at least
a field goal there like you said, nothing Like they've
threed and now punted the rest.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Of the game.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
And you know, Miami didn't play that well, but they
took advantage and they found a way to win. And
that's and then of the day. That's what makes great
teams for football. Like if you just somehow can find
a way to win on your worst day, you're a
really good team. So yeah, hats off to Miami and
just the coaching staff, like they kept their guys in it.
Tua never broke right. He was struggling as well. He
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was having a bad game game, stuck with it, like
he was missing open guys too, and he stuck with him.
In the fourth quarter, he was on point, like making
big throws. And you know, Devon a Chan like another
guy that you know last year couldn't stay healthy, right,
but everyone knows a talent level. He really showed up
in that second half as well. I mean he was
running the ball so well. So huge game from Miami,
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But I mean you were pissed because we knew that
was a good cover number. That was a good number
three and a half on two what we viewed as
equally even teams, and that number was never in doubt, right,
whatever it was, I think it was a six yard
field goal to win it by Miami. So yeah, could
just anyone that took the three and a half.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Those games, the Jags and the Colts basically ended back
to back on red zone. They were the two box
at the end, and I'm like, I need I need
both of these games, not just for the contest, but
just for my slate of bets today. I need them
for my lungs. The only thing I can take solace
in is that I only went half a unit on
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the Giants because I just like at the end of the.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Day, I'm jealous.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I just I just believing and like, look, but that's
the worst.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Thing too, that like we said though, like I'm minute
in I was, even though they they were up three,
I just regretted it. I was like, why am I
so heavy on Daniel Jones? So you made the right
move there. But we're gonna Bears game. We're gonna get
to this Bears game or what talk about.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I just want to say one thing about the Steelers.
I'm going to give you your flat hours for the Bears. Uh,
shame on us. On Tuesday, We're like, we like the
Jags and we like the Steelers. Why aren't we doing
the Jags and the Steelers? And then all week we
talked about this is a Mike Tomlin makes it ugly,
wins is an underdog game. This is what he has
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done for sixteen seventeen years. He is the best coach
against the spread as a dog. He is the best
coach outright as a dog in the past twenty years,
better than Belichick, better than Sean Payton, better than Mike Vrabel,
better than all the coaches who have dominated for betters.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Let the greatest of all time. Look at your work.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
We suck and when TJ Will plays, they're like that
changes the calculus for everything. Yeah, we are terrible people,
non strategic, stupid, stubborn, blinded by our own biases. We
deserve to be one and two right now because we
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could be three and m.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
And I think, honestly, what got me Chad was just
again I overacted too much to It was the fact
that it was unknown who the quarterback was going to be,
and I had questions about their offensive line, and my
thinking was, well, I don't know how they're going to
keep up with Atlanta where we nailed on Tuesday. We said,
this is Kirk cousins first start going against the top
five defense, Like this was a nightmare. Snaiy to put
(29:06):
this guy in and he failed. Like that's what the
worst part was. We capted it perfectly. It was like,
did it.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Matter that the offensive line's bad on Pittsburgh and that
it was justin field?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
No, I mean they can kick five field goals or
six field goals and all work out for him, just
because that defense is so incredibly talented. So that was
as Mike Tomlin as it can get, right.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
I probably do have a talent for understanding people, But
is it a talent is not just listening when they talking?
For real coaches like the think we listen, coaches don't listen.
They wait for dude's mouse to stop moving.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
All hard all grit offense was terrible. I mean it
really was at times just horrible. But you know, with
Fields they can run that kind of spread option, right,
they can run in and spread you out, and you
know it does not score touchdowns, but at least move
the ball where Atlanta could not move the ball, and
when they would JJ would pop up and make a
huge playing kind of flipped the game.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So yeah, brutal, brutal leave them that went.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Off, especially because that's like a game we nailed talking
about and just a game we always taken that spot.
But I think it's just tough where it's like you
hear so much noise, I'm here so much from the
peanut gallery that doesn't make you a question you're thinking
of It was like, you know, they're right, their offensive
line is bad and justin fields does.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Burn us in these kind of spots.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
And that number did go from two and a half
to closing at four and a half by kickoff, So Yeah,
some professionals winning heavy on Atlanta and they clearly got
burned by it. But yeah, lesson learn like we we
like Pittsburgh in those kind of spots. That was one
of their easier games we'll have all season matchup wise,
and we definitely missed on it.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, and don't we have listened to the Peanut Gallery
and the Panthers and the Giants because I would have
rather have listened to them on Matt and.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Definitely the Giants Vikings one that was the toughest. Yeah,
the Peanut Gallery was.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Heavy on the Vikings and I was just like, Nah,
you don't know, you don't.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Know, somebody knows. Oh, the irony. Everyone loves the Ravens.
Everyone loves the Bengals. Everyone's enamored with the Browns defense
that just gave up a million points to Dak Prescott,
the highest paid quarterback ever. Now the only team to
win in the AFC North this week. Pittsburgh Steelers, congrats guys,
(31:19):
more one Mike Tomlin score one for going over their
wind total. Let's see if they can keep the streak alive.
I do want to there's a couple things we gotta say.
The Bears.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
You nailed it like flowers for you.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I couldn't get myself there, and for the first half
it looked like I was one hundred percent right. But
I very specifically did not text you it's not going
to say anything because it's a long game.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I literally had no joke, forty five text messages on
my Bears text chain from the first half, which I
didn't answer because like, I'm taking notes on the games,
and I'm freaking out of at our bets and I'm
trying to keep my cool with all these people in
my house, Like I just can't engage. Caleb Williams already
(32:08):
looked broken, like in the second half he was. It
looked like he was literally pushing the ball instead of
throwing it. He was leaving the pocket the second his
first read wasn't there.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Yeah, like Keen Allen's dropping wide open touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Dropping passes.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
The good news is he had a Hall of Fame
kneel down, and really, I don't think any bare quarterback
has ever looked better kneeling down than Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
But this was not a win to be proud of.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I would say it is. I mean, a win's a win.
I don't care how you get it, but to me,
it was good man. You got to see him get
humbled and he realized, like the scrambling back ten yards
is all funn and que when it works out. When
it doesn't work out and you lose twenty yards and
take your team out of field goal position, and.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Chicago's letting you know you're an idiot. He needs that.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Like this kid, he's had a little bit too good
in his life, right, and this is this is gonna
be a good year for Caleb Blims. This is the
reason though, that I, me and you were laughing about
their win total over nine and a half and just
saw the hyper getting you know, Nick Wright's picking them
to go to the super Bowl. It's just like you're
a rookie. There's a reason we were so enamored with CJ. Right,
(33:22):
Like CJ going twenty three touches on five picks. You
don't see that kind of composure from rookies. You see
what we saw today from all the rookies right struggling.
Like that's another thing I was pissed about. It is
I told you whatever that was two weeks ago. I'm like,
we should fade these rookies on the road here just
because it's it is so tough, right in your first
start on the road. I mean Williams showed that at home,
(33:45):
how tough it is, right when the fans turned on
him a little bit that first half. I can't imagine
what the locker room was like for the bearers, right,
I mean it's seventeen nothing or whatever. It was seventeen three.
But when I made the bet, my whole point was
I just thought ten See was bad and I thought
will Levis was bad. And it took a while to
get there, Chad, right, it took a little bit for
(34:06):
him to.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
You know what. He was bad. He got bad.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
He was bad.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
It's just like when it's third and seven, you got
no hope with will Levis, Like there's a couple of
kbs like that, and you know, I never thought the
number would get there, right, just because there were in
such a hole. And it was like, well, if they
get up to twenty one seventeen, they can cover the
four and I can get my three and a half.
Check can get his four and a half. No, No,
will Levis didn't even better. He threw a pick six.
(34:33):
I think Stucky had the tweet. It was like amazing.
It was basically, how often does the team come back
from down seventeen to win a game with zero offensive touchdowns?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I don't know if that's ever happened before. You either astonishing,
it's astonishing.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
So, like you said, Chad, that's good teams win those
kind of games. And I know it's hard for you
as a Chicagoan because you've just been through the fucking ringer,
but I'd be positive, like this is exciting going forward
because they do have a lot to build on, a
work on, and that to me is like that was
one of the worst offensive performances we'll see this season.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I think from Caleb Williams, I think he'll get better.
That was just he said he doesn't get nervous. Dude,
you're human.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
You clearly get nervous, because he was full of jitter's
not game and happy feet. So yeah, I don't know
if we'll bet them next week because it's it's under
a touchdown right now in Houston at home on Monday
night against the Bear. So I will be honest with
you chat right now. I did throw a little bit
on Houston right now while it's under seven, just because
I do think that number is gonna go up.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
All right, well let's talk about him. So just a reminder,
we've got the Lions tonight. We're not gonna spend too
much time on the Lions because we've talked about him
so much.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
But uh, don't minus five though, that feels like that's
totally gone value wise.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Yeah, we were on the Lions at three and a half.
We're on the line.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
I'm taking them four and a half too, But at
four and a half, it's just like, come on the survivor.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
We had the Bengals. That's a bummer.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
We also had the Seahawks, so we split in sort
of the pools that we're in.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Still alive, We'll keep talking about.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Its up to five and a half now. Lines at
bet three six.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Five, Jesus, jeez, jesus over unders fifty three, I mean,
throw if you missed everything, you haven't bet anything in
this game.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Throw it on the end here that that's a really
high number.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Nick Giffin likes the under on the first half of
corning to wa.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Do that thing. Yeah, goo roll with Nick and his
luck rankings.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I like that couple of Week two lines that I
just want to get to before we get out of here.
You just mentioned Houston five and a half, right, six
and a half. It's up to six and a half
over the Bears.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
It could be a lesser book. Our sponsor's book is
six and a half.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I just saw Buffalo Miami. Buffalo opened is a one
point underdog at Miami. That line I just saw move
to one and a half. I don't know what you're
seeing on Beth three six five right now.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, I mean Buffalo's defense might be absolutely dog shit.
So I get I get why the professionals are coming
to Miami and then they're at home in a short week.
But yeah, we'll wait for that one to talk wu'sday.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
A couple of games that interested me. I know it's
terrible to say this. Cincinnati they're plus six. Obviously we
got to wait and see what happens. Well, we know
what's going to happen. It's Cincinnati plus six. For a second,
I forgot there. We're playing the Chiefs and not the Niners.
Cincinnati plus six, like.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Probably know, my Simon says, bet I already took the
six and a half. It's down to six. I'll take
the six as well.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
It's like like that line could go up over the
course of the week with all the I don't think.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I don't know if they're pros al out at chet
because this is already insane. It was three and a
half before games kicked off today. Are the Bengals three
points worse than they were twelve hours ago?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah, it's just we talk all the time.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
It's over overaction. The week one like that, that game,
everything went wrong. They're about to score the go ahead touchdown,
the guy fumbles into the end zone, right, they get
a kick, the guy who muffs the punt, Like, it's
just I think the commentator said they only had two
fumbles all of last season.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
They had two in that game.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Just half.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yeah, so that's just a game from hell. So it's
like me and Chad, I know, it's gross pool. You
have to buy a loan in these scenarios. So we
we love Mahomes. We always talk about this on our show.
We love Mahomes at less than three point favorite.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
So if he's.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Two and a half or if he's an underdog, we
buy in Mahomes. We always fade Mahomes when it's over four.
We just always do it because he always plays in
these close games. So Chad, You're so right calling this
game out first. This is one of my favorite games
that popped up for this early buying.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
By the way, Evan just threw this one stat into
the chat that I need to read to people, and
it's germane. For a couple of reasons, one, bet three
sixty five has an incredible early payout offer. If any
team that you've bet on goes up by seventeen points,
your bet automatically cash is So if the other team
comes back to win, doesn't matter. You've cast your bet low.
(38:59):
And behold that happened with the Titans today. So they lost,
but you won your bet if you bet with bet
three six five. If you went because they got up
seventeen to nothing, dogs are four points to lead by
seventeen plus at any point in a game, we're sixty
six one and one against the spread. It's twenty nineteen.
(39:21):
They are now sixty six two and one against the spread.
The other game, two other games, Dallas is minus six.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Love it right now.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I say, we grab it as soon as I saw
that number come out.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
It's Dallas at home against a bad team like we
always we always played Dallas. Yeahs, and especially that bad
team is the Saint who just put up fifty points
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
It was like, if this game to me, this game
and you'll do your numbers this week. But I feel
like this game should be at least a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
I think that's what it will be. I think I'll
either at seven or seven and a half.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
So the fact that you can get six six and
a half right now, I just grab it before it
does go to seven.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Opinion.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
All right, those were the games. Anything else I'm missing?
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Yeah, I grabbed Colts minus three right now, just in
case it is Milik Willis right, that's what they're saying, Chad,
I know Ryan Tannehill has gotten some buzz yep. So
that's Ryan Tannehill coming off of beaching Bahamas to be
their quarterback and playing a game in six days.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
So it's like either quarterback, whoever it is. I'm feeling
confident about this bet. Right.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
So there's a reason Green Bay and we had to
give up a seventh round pick to get their starting
quarterback right now?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
So yeah, this.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
I wanted to be on Green Bay because I thought
this line would be like six or something, and the
fact that it's just three right now, I would just
grab because I could see the public coming in this
number going up.
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