September 10, 2024 • 32 mins
Super Bowl MVP Julian Edelman joins the show in studio to discuss 49ers QB Brock Purdy and what makes him special despite being the last pick in the draft
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Julian Edelman twelve NFL seasons, three rings. He's got that podcast,
Games with Names, every episode every Tuesday, a new episode.
He's also on Fox NFL Kickoff. We were just talking
about that during the break. He's been a great, seamless fit.
So a lot a lot of what I look at
from a football team is a simple question, what are
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you new? England came out really physical against Cincinnati, so
they've defined what they want to be. I watched the
Jets last night. I don't know what they are. I
don't they get no tight end production. They don't love
their oc Aaron. Now, Julian doesn't move, He's Kirk Cousins.
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He's sitting back, he not moving around. That's the new erin.
I guess there's hope, But I mean, you had some
probably game ones of the year do you kind of
look at the Jets and go, hey, it's Week one,
they'll be fine, or do you see things that you
wonder if that's just what they are.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
You know, I pumped the brakes with the whole Jets
game last night. We got to put it into reality.
They played the defending NFC championship team against the forty
nine Ers, a team that has continuity, that's played with
each other for multiple years.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
We can't just expect the Jets, who were a seven
win seat seven win team last year, to go out
there and compete with like one of the best teams
in the league.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Week one is always a little tricky. There's things that
happen you don't understand, you don't don't prepare for. There's
you over prepare for certain things that don't happen. And
Aaron Rodgers is coming off an achilles injury, so like
that he hasn't played with that team in a long time.
You know, I think this could be used as a
good thing for the Jets if they take this as
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a measuring stick game, like, hey, guys, we just played
a championship team, which you heard him in the postgame
talk about that and say we need to, you know,
step up that urgency in the building everywhere, everywhere, everywhere.
And then they also could use it for you know,
they got they got gashed by a Kyle Shanahan offense,
who who runs that same exact offense Miami. They play
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them twice a year, so they got a little jump
start for Miami.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
You could take that. And then also like we don't
that that offense has so much catching up to do.
I mean, Breise Hall is still there.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Wilson's a really good target, and Aaron Rodgers he's smart
enough to learn what he has to do to be productive.
That was his first game with live action bullet so
like I'm pumping the brakes on the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
He could still throw the ball, you see. You can
see he can still throw the ball still.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Pretty so once they start figuring out like everyone who
their team is, everyone may not. You said that there's
a few teams that have certain identities. Yeah, they're trying
to be that identity. And it worked this week. They
still have to develop that for the next two to
three weeks.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It's not like we're not like pushing panic button on
the Jets yet.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So you were a seventh round pick from Kent State.
Brock Purty's a seventh round pick. And when you're a
seventh round pick, you're usually not a four to three
guy or not a six to four guy. But there
is a determination that comes with later round picks. I mean,
last night the Niners had an undrafted running back, a
seventh round quarterback, a seventh round receiver. Do you ever
look at like with a Brock Purtty, did you look
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at Being a seventh rounder is a bit of an
advantage because expectations are so low. You're like in the
shadows of the building. I mean, I look at Brock. Pretty,
there's no pressure like I mean you you watch these
Caleb Williams and then it's it's Jade and Daniels. We're
already banging on him after a week one. Pretty to
me looks so comfortable with what he is. But that's
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just when I see a quarterback, I see a kid
not nervous feet makes the right read he's a cerebral kid,
obviously to pick it up, I mean, what do you
see do you see? Do you see a guy that's
gonna be limited eventually or or are we looking at
the best seventh round quarterback ever taken.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
We could be looking at the best seventh round quarterback
we've ever taken in the league. And for the sheer
fact that he is always improving. So if he struggled
some last week with a certain throw, you see him
go after it the next week and he makes that throw.
He still fits the ball in tight windows. And he's
gonna grow more when like the playmakers start disinappear, you know,
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because in the next two or three years, he's gonna
he's gonna lose a kiddle, he's gonna lose a debo,
and that's when you'll see his growth.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
You're not gonna see it right now.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
He's he's a really great game day operator who delivers
the football where it needs to be. He knows how
to identify the defense, he knows how to call out
the protection, and those are huge things.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
For a quarterback to do.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
If if you get like three of those things or
two of those things done, then you could start using
your football athleticism.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
You can start learning the game.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It's all these people that like rag On brock Purty
for being a game manager, like that's that's your job
as a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
You are the game manager.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Like you go out, you call the play, you touch
the You touch the ball every play, and so you
have the mercy of the team in your hands at
every single play.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
That you have that you touch the ball.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
So, like, why wouldn't you want a guy that's gonna
make great decisions, that can see the defense, that can
communicate the play, that can see who matchups. Like, that's
what that's what you want at the quarterback position. I
think brock Purty is doing a great job. I hope
he continues to keep it going.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So it's crazy to me the Chargers didn't win football
games and they score twenty four points or more. Sunday
they scored they only score twenty two and they win decisively.
Described me, or explain to me how a coach can
come in with the same players and they are significantly
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more physical. It's the same guys. Now, their first two
picks were offensive guys. What does Harbaugh do at every stop?
I mean, tell me a coach you had like to me,
offens is choreography, an efficiency. Defense is a lot of
physicality and willing to be violent. Yeah, willing to test
your soul. I mean I watched the Chargers I'm like,
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it's the same guys. That defense was just different.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
You could argue they have a worse team this year,
like talently, oh yeah, yeah, you know, and it goes
down to how they practice, how they prepare, and you
could I sat down with Harball once when you know
I was coming, I was in free agency, and you
could just see this guy had a different like tune
to him, like he just lived, breathe died football. And
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when you have a guy like that, I know for
a fact those guys practice hard. I know their practices
are probably mentally grueling. I know he has this whole
stick where he's like, oh, the fun guy, but I
guarantee behind closed doors, he'll get up in you if
you need it, if the team needs it.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
And that's what's being shown on the game field.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
A tough team that practice is hard, that prepared, that
has the discipline to do what it takes to win
a game, not put up numbers or make headlines, doing
what it takes to win that specific game.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
That's what Harball does.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Well.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, I got to ask you about the Patriots. We
had talked about it during the week, and I'm like, listen,
T Higgins has gone Boyd is gone, Mixing's gone. Those
are elite players. I'm like, I don't know what I'm
gonna get one of the It was a corner game
for me. It wasn't the game I watched primarily. The
one thing that was obvious was how.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Physical they were.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
The tackling was good. I mean, is it a one off?
What did you take from that team?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
You know, with a game that the Patriots played and
to come out on Week one and have a big
victory against a team they probably should have lost to.
It's great for that building because that coaching staff drawed Mayo,
everything that this this this staff has been preaching to
the team and organized team activities, mini camps, training camp,
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everything that they've been preaching just showed that it worked right.
So if they continue to play, messaging worked. The messaging work.
So that's how you get guys to buy in. That's
how you get your confidence to grow bigger. That's how
you get guys to come in a little earlier. Because
everything that they work hard on that they got some
production out of it. They got they got a little
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taste of what what it tastes like to win and
b one to oh, so you know, going into this
second week against Seattle, Seattle's got to come across the country. Yep,
you know, they got a new head coach the Patriots.
If they play the game the way they played last week,
they'll win. They'll win this week. They'll be too and oh,
you know, mistake free, get a couple turnovers when the
when the special teams battle, win on third down. They
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did every single one of those things. It looked like
a stereotypical Bill Belichick type game, you know, with the
messaging from Drawn Mayo, which is is ironic that you
know also with Seattle that these two teams have different coaches,
but it seems like they have the same philosophies of
the coaches before with a person that can communicated differently.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, so Bill Belichick's on Instagram. Are you following him?
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I think I am following coach.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I will say, Bill's got a wealth of information and
knowledge and wisdom. I think, you know, I don't blame him.
He's like Ryan Seacrest. Somebody told me today he's like
gotten nine jobs, and good for him. But but I
will say when I see him, he's he's he's kind
of disconnected from coaching. Briefly, and I and I said
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this when I work with Sean Payton, Bill's got too
much wisdom to do what we do. Like, there's too
much there he has to give. If I just said,
where will he because he's gonna give it, He's gonna
send his resume out again. Do you think he's kind
of a Northeast guy? It'll be in like like, for instance,
Jets comes open, you think he would stay, Would he
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take it? Does he feel like to you if there's
like five jobs he would take? Or is the league
open to him?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I think the situation has to be right. Northeast probably helps.
He's got family there. Yeah, that's where all the family's at.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
The real enticing one to me is is if the
New York Giants open up.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
And I'm not calling for anyone's job. I love day ball.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Day ball is my favorite, but you know the fate
of what they've put on the fields, well, Daniel Jones,
you know, and then you're gonna go down with that ship.
And so if that opens up, I remember vividly any
time we played in New York or we play the Giants,
you could just see a little like jingle in Belichick's
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spirit because he loved talking about those old Giants teams,
and he loved talking about that organization. You know, you
could tell that he loved the New York Football Giants
and with everything that he exemplified from the old footage
of when he was the DC at you know, the
Giants playing against that West Coast, same kind of te
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trap play the Niners ran that everyone runs like. He
would bring up these old Giants. He just loves the Giants.
So I think that would be, you know, probably the
place he would want to go to. But depending on
other situations, I mean, he's gonna he's gonna probably want
to go somewhere where he doesn't have to, you know,
rebuild something completely.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Well, I mean in affairs, he does see the value
of quarterback.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
He does.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I mean I think that's like, I mean, that's why
Harball went to the Chargers. You get Herbert, Yeah, that's
why it's a great gig. Yeah. Cowboys, Yeah, Dak Prescott.
Although I will tell you I want to talk to
I will tell you is that people bang on Mike
McCarthy and I've been critical and because it's the Cowboys job, Julian,
it's on TV, so any clock snaffoo, any situational mistake.
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I mean, I remember when Andy Reid was in Philadelphia,
Oh yeah, was getting crushed, and I'm like, if he's
in Jackson Building, nobody watches the games. I watched Dallas.
I thought they looked spectacularly well coached.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
They did, and they always do they I mean the
regular season, they look great. And I went on the
pregame show, I went on Fox Kickoff and said, you know,
I'm not worried about Dak Prescott this this week. I'm
not worried about Dak Prescott in Week thirteen. I'm worried
about Dak Prescott in December and December and January. That's
when you really want to see if all the the
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investment of everything they did in the off season during
this that's when it matters, you know, because going twelve
and four and getting knocked out in the first round again, like,
that's not what we're looking for. So, you know, Dallas,
Dak Prescott's a really good football player. We all know
that Ceedee Lamb looked like he didn't miss a beat,
didn't he?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
And they, to their credit, they got the ball to
CD Lamb, and they got.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
The ball to ceedd Lamb Mike McCarthy. I mean, he's
a great football coach. He got a Super Bowl. But
like you're also, like you just said, we're playing and
every game is on TV. I mean we talked about
Dallas on this show all off season and and that's
just how it's always going to be, you know. So
the expectations are always extremely high, which they make those
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expectations high.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
And so if it you know it.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
If it goes sour or if it goes it goes
in the wrong direction. This this playoffs, I can see
them making a move. And it's not like they're they're
firing them. It's just they're not renewing the contract. So
it makes everyone look all right.
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Speaker 1 (13:58):
App the When you were in the league, I'll wrap
it up this. When you were in the league, New
England didn't do a lot of splashy acquisitions and free agency.
It was draft developed. They'd find like a B player
that was a good fit. They'd go to Cleveland find
a linebacker. But it's interesting because Baker had a reputation
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Baker Mayfield, and then he goes to Tampa and it's
like he's grown up. He's changed, and it's like he
drove me nuts in Cleveland. Now he's one of my
favorite quarterbacks. In your experience in the NFL, it's like
he's had a little bit of a personality makeover. He's
grown up. Did you see that happen a lot where
a guy comes in and he gets money, he's immature,
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and then his next stop it's like, oh, he's a
grown up? Or are you what you are? I mean,
go to your career like Matt Slater was mature the
first day walked into the building. Yeah, I mean, there's
just guys. But in terms of most of the guys
you played with, they are what they are. Or are
there some Baker Mayfield where it's like, wow, I'm humbled
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and they they really change and become much better leaders
and more adult.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, I don't have a specific example of that, but
it does happen. I mean, you look at rich Cannon
early in his career, he wasn't anything, and then he
goes to the Raiders and becomes MVP and was like
one of the first change arm trajectory type quarterbacks. Like
you know, sometimes these guys get little taste a second
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life when they get a change the environment. And Baker
Mayfield has done that. And you know what a perfect
situation for him. I heard you talking about. You know,
he doesn't have the expectations following Tom Brady, but also
going to a team that has continuity for like the
last eight years.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I mean they had the same thing.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
They have one of the best tackles in the leagues
with Wurfs. They got Godwin and Evans who are like
really good football players. So like, you know, that's a
perfect thing. But you know, I don't have any specific examples.
You know, we we pretty much had a lot of
good dudes in our locker room. Like if and if
you weren't, you weren't there. And that's just how it
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was in New England. But you know another team that
does that, I think that had that get that always
has a pretty tight locker room. That I was just
so impressed with was the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Like this Mason kid, undrafted guy comes and it's not
just Kyle Shanahan that we got to give our credit to.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
It's got to be John Lynch.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
It's gotta be the York Family because that whole that
that trifecta that they have, like to be able to
find a Rock Purty, to be able to have a
running back come in and and do what he did
the Mason kid with one hundred and forty yards against
a really good defense. Like that's continuity and that that
comes from the trifecta.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
So yeah, you know, San Francisco does a better job
of getting Kittles a fest rounder, of getting production.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And then making a splash with Williams. Hey we hey,
we need to we need to address something. Let's get Williams.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
I mean that.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
That's that you got to tip your cap to everyone
over there, and they got to get it done this year.
So there's no more, you know, let's get it done boys.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Julian Edelman his podcast Games with Names, new episode every Tuesday.
Great seeing you again. Jmack with the news.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Or do you have.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
No no, no, this is the herd Line news.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Well, I did want to ask Edelman a quick question
about the Jets last night. We were looking for positives
to take away Colin I said, the offensive line held.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Up pretty well.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, it's a good starting And then he.
Speaker 7 (17:32):
Gave me a pass rock win rate stat that said
the Jets were twenty seventh in Week one.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, I mean twenty seventh they get against Bosa in
that whole game. I mean, that's that's a really good
football team that they played on the defensive side, on
every side.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
So it's week one. Let's like, let's pump the brakes
on the Jets.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
The sky's not falling.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
This sky is not falling.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Let them learn how to play the game like they
haven't played together. Like, if anything, let's get some more
reps in practice.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
I don't want to go overboard with the lack of
preseason rep but a lot of the quarterbacks who didn't
play in the preseason were pretty awful.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah this point, and then you're gonna see it, you know,
splash over in the first core of the season. We're
gonna see the injuries go up because guys haven't calcified
and haven't been used to it. It used to be, you know,
you train and training camp was tough and if you
if you got out of training camp, you were gonna
last for the season. And it would be good if
you got hurt in training camp because then you knew
what your team was. You know, now that's kind of
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been gray area with the regular season.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, Bill Poullion used to me it took three weeks
of hitting to be ready for Week one. I don't
think anybody does three weeks of hitting.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
No, that's why our injuries are great.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
That's why Burrow hasn't played, and that's why we have
five missing starting quarterbacks every year.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I mean, we're gonna start seeing some ripple effects.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Do you have one guest story?
Speaker 4 (18:45):
I mean, we could do some stories if you want
to know.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
We got a guest coming up.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
One story, all right, let's go to Romadunze of the
Chicago Bears. We know he suffered a bit of an
injury in mcl spray and he's considered week to week
not great to start out for the Bears, A big
white receiver injury.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Well, I think also he was a guy that was
considered he was going to be super productive early because
he was such a mature player at Washington, he had
so many years of production, so that's shocking didn't do much.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
We can also do this quick story on Raheem Morris
feeling that Kirk Cousins is healthy. I know you've been
noting that he hasn't really moved in the pocket at
all at all. Week one, he was just like a statue.
I saw a stat They didn't won one play action
play the entire game. Cong I remember, that's why McVeigh
and Shanahan loved kirk Cousins, the play action deep balls
over the middle. He didn't run any of that because
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they were afraid of the Steelers pass rush. If Kirk
Cousins can't do that in Week two, they're going to
get destroyed in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, that's an interesting game. Atlanta's got the pieces. Pittsburghe's arguable,
was a terrible matchup. A their defensive front and pass rush,
and B the Falcons coach was now the Steelers coordinator,
so he knew the entire roster. So there's an argument,
like I watched Atlanta and I thought, God, they're playing
very poorly. They overwhelmed so that my guest says Atlanta
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is much better, very quickly on offensive defensive both. I
think both. I think the Steelers have a way of
ugling up football games, and they did. They took control,
they pushed Atlanta around. I don't think that's what Atlanta
will look like going forward, all right? J Mack with
the news.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by. It's
the Herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Nick Saban's gone, Alabama has a new coach. What's it
like to replace a legend? That's next live in LA.
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Speaker 1 (21:10):
Well, generally speaking, a rule of thumb is don't ever
replace a legend. But Kaylin de Borr replaced the ultimate
legend in Alabama. But I had said this last year.
He is as good as anybody in this country. What
he did at Washington without a lot of NFL bodies
to get to the championship game, to me is absolutely remarkable.
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They're two and zero. Here comes Wisconsin, the games on
Fox and Kaylen is joining us live.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
You know, I was just.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Talking during the break. Nick Saban lives five houses down
from you, So it's not like I mean to be
honest with you. Did you lean into Nick when you
took the job. Did you give him a call and
ask a couple of questions.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
Or I even got offered the job or took it
just you know, just to have that you know, that
was really the first time I'd ever had a chance
to talk with him. And you don't want to, you know,
let him know that you know everything he did for
this program. If I became the head coach, you know,
it would be nothing but embracing embracing that and everyone
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else that helped him have all the success along the way.
And of course when I got here there's that's probably
when the most questions are and you know, there is
always help that he was ready to offer anytime I
needed to.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, you guys, are actually very similar. You're You're more offensive,
he's defensive. But Don James was one of the coaches
that really helped him. I mean he has acknowledged the
former Husky coach. And by the way, as you well
know at Washington, Don is you know, the icon is
that do you see similarities with you and Nick? I
do the discipline of the efficiency, no wasted time, you know.
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I mean I look at you two and I just
think I see a lot of the same personality. He
may yell a little louder, but do you see some similarities.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
I think that's probably for the people who know us
both or played for us, both coached with us both.
But I think that you know the success of a
team or a program, I think there are the common
you know, non negotiables, the values that you have and
the styles may be different, or you know, just how
you go about it may be different, but I think
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those non negotiables are are all the same. And so
that the Don James a reference that was really part
of our first conversation, you know, something that tied us
immediately and something I know he really has always held
on too, and something that I did as well.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
You know, the sec is different the PAC twelve. Your
year in the PAC twelve was the best I've ever
seen the PAC twelve. And those teams, by the way,
I think are twenty one and two this year, So
you really saw the best of the PAC twelve. But
the SEC is different. It's just bigger. Upfront, Like when
you look at film, do you notice the difference PAC
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twelve to SEC? Does it jump off the tape to you?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Kaylin?
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Yeah, you know, we haven't got into the SEC games,
but I've watched enough and I look at our own
team and just up front, you know what that looks like.
And there's there's no question the size of our guys,
and just you know, you're trying to make sure that
there's still athleticism and and it's it's pretty impressive the
way that these guys.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Can move, whether it's up on the lines or the
second levels.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Just everyone you know has has that that strength as
that mass, and you know, we're just trying to make
sure we use all those tools that we have, you know,
to our disposal.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
The Jalen Milroe the offense. If I if somebody never
watched because Panics and all those receivers, you were an
aerial show. I mean, it was vertical, it was hyper aggressive.
I don't know, I mean, Alabama's a bigger program, but
it'd be hard to duplicate that level of talent at
any school. Will your offense eventually look like Washington or
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was that just you just had uniquely talented guys with
the Huskies.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Yeah, I think there was unique traits that those guys had,
and we really tailored the offense to them. And that's
going to be the key for us is Jalen's got
some unique traits in special ways. And you know, as
much as he's doing a good job of really learning
the intricacies, the offense is the new the offense, the nuances.
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We got to do a good job of continuing to
evolve and around you know, all the players, but it
is driven by the quarterback and so you know, front
and center with him. We need to make sure we
continue to adjust and I think every week, you know,
that's that's part of the process, is understanding what went
really well, what can we continue to work on and
you know, Taylor around what he what his skill set is.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
So Wisconsin Camp Randall is nuts. It is one of
the great environments and I've always said this. In the NFL,
you got twenty eight year old adults, married kids, grown ups.
You take a nineteen year old and you put him
at Camp Randal on a sadder and it gets loud
and you have a fumble in your trail when you're
going into a harsh environment. You had a couple at Washington.
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Where you go on the road, you got twenty year
old kids. Do you coach different that week? Is the
messaging different?
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Yeah? You know, the guys are just really excited.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
As much as we love playing at Brian Denny Stadium
here in Tuscaloosa, you know, I think there is something
special about going on the road into hostile environments. And
you know, having grown up in the Midwest and well
aware of Wisconsin, the tradition and everything there, and Coach
Fickles done a great job here, continue to move that
program here in the second year. But our guys, you know,
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this week, they understand, you know, I wanted to make
sure that they knew, you know, on Sunday when we
came back in and again here today.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
What it would look like, what we feel like.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
They've been in that environment before, and so you know,
looking forward to going up there and locking arms with
each other, and it goes through. It first starts with
the preparation, but that presparation, you know, leading to confidence
and Saturday will come here sooner than later.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
So you lost over thirty players in the transfer portal,
yet you sign the number three transfer class. I mean, listen,
life changes, you have to adapt. Did you prefer when
it was just high school kids? Do you like some
of the transfer portal situations? What is recruiting like for
a coach now in college football?
Speaker 5 (27:22):
Yeah, you're just always on your toes.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
You know, you're just always really trying to make sure
with your own team that you have a culture where
there's continuity and the attrition is just really on a
lower level. And you know, the one thing that is
nice about the portal is that you know when there
are you know, especially coming in right now. The portal
obviously caused these situations, but there's there's areas where.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
We have gaps.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
We were able to, you know, do the best we
could to fill in those gaps, and I think we
got some high quality not just players, but people that
have come in that fittess and have done a really
nice job. But you know, I think when you could
layout for years ahead back, you know, and that's just
not that long ago. You know, how many high school
guys you were going to bring in each year. There
was something to that, you know, and just stay in
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the course and maintaining relationships with high school coaches and
all that stuff. You know, that's still I think where
it all starts. But you know, there is a filler.
I think of gaps that the portal does allow us
to do. And you know that's universal across the board
for everyone.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Number four tied. Take on Wisconsin at Camp Randall, one
of the elite stadiums and environments in the sport. He's
as good as any young coach. Kalen de Boor. What
he did at Washington was pretty remarkable. The expectations at
Bama are even a not higher, Kalen. As always, By
the way, I don't know what you did in your decorating,
but the room has got more light and bright. Nick
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was a little dark and intimidating. Your office is sunny
and bright, optimistic. So no knock on Nick's design, but
you look like Bama's coach. I love the office, and congrats.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Colin Roll tide, all right, Kaylin de Boor, that's funny, Nick.
Nick Saban's right down the street. So Don James. I
grew up with Don James. Don James was a legendary
coach at Washington when he passed away. Nick Saban said,
it all started with Don. I learned how to coach
from Don James, and then Kaylen de Boor goes to Washington,
and when you're at Washington, he's the bear Bryant of
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the coaches. Don James a legendary coach. Saban like points
to Don James, and I grew up with Don James,
where great special teams, great defense, ran the ball, passed infrequently,
but yet they always had NFL quarterbacks. But it was
like it was like Saban football forty five years ago,
like no turnovers, great special teams, blocking kicks, and kind
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of created the environment of Husky Stadium, which remains one
of the great college football environments. Here's our Week two
NFL schedule, j Mac. We talked about this a lot
of big favorites, so you know there's upsets coming. I'll
throw a game at you and you tell me where
you're leaning, all right. Thursday, Buffalo at Miami Buffalo dug
themselves out of an ugly home hold at home against Arizona.
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Buffalo at Miami, I go Miami. I feel the same way.
Oh oh, okay, I do. I'll throw another one at you.
San Francisco off a big win short week at red
hot Sam Darnold.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
I would probably take the points with the Vikings. Obviously,
the Niners were geeked for the Jets opener Monday night football.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Now you gotta go on the road.
Speaker 7 (30:31):
You know, we're all in on Kevin O'Connell, who's an
excellent coach, and the Flores defense. You know, kept Daniel
Jones confused. Can you do the same to party. We'll
see if McCaffrey returns. I don't think Jordan Mason's going
for a buck fifty again.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Come on, okay, Rams all beat up, I mean, falling
apart offensively at Arizona.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
I'm inclined to still take the Rams, but probably a pass.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Wait, we don't disagree on any games as well. Hold on,
hold on, Joe Burrow at Kansas City.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
I think I gotta go Chiefs, dude. This Chiefs team
was the most annoying thing Hollywood Brown wasn't even there
in the opener, and they were kind of sort of
a machine.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Pa Checko's good.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Rice is good.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I don't see how.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
It's probably a stay away at six six and a half.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
But my favorite pick this week right now, Houston hosting
the Meat.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
You love that. Yeah, you're all over.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
So do you have one game you love? Prime time
favorite for you?
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Primetime touchdown Houston at home against Caleb Williams. I love
the Texans. Do you have one game you look at? Well,
Jets Titans for you.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
I don't think I can go to the go to
remember I had first half under last night. It was
it sitting on twenty and then the field goal with
like four seconds left.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
It flies over.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Just I don't know.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
I guess Dallas Cowboys. I just don't think the Saints
are as good as forty seven points. I think the
Cowboys are a bully. I think they push around the
Saints in the trenches and world to victory.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
That's a good way to describe them. Cowboys get rolling downhill.
They're Tyson in his prime. Punch them back in December
and January you get a little skittish. All right, we'll
see you Tomorrow and Wednesday, Joel Klatt will stop by
Live in La.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Julian Edelman twelve NFL seasons, three rings. He's got that podcast,
Games with Names, every episode every Tuesday, a new episode.
He's also on Fox NFL Kickoff. We were just talking
about that during the break. He's been a great, seamless fit.
So a lot a lot of what I look at
from a football team is a simple question, what are
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you new? England came out really physical against Cincinnati, so
they've defined what they want to be. I watched the
Jets last night. I don't know what they are. I
don't they get no tight end production. They don't love
their oc Aaron. Now, Julian doesn't move, He's Kirk Cousins.
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He's sitting back, he not moving around. That's the new erin.
I guess there's hope, But I mean, you had some
probably game ones of the year do you kind of
look at the Jets and go, hey, it's Week one,
they'll be fine, or do you see things that you
wonder if that's just what they are.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
You know, I pumped the brakes with the whole Jets
game last night. We got to put it into reality.
They played the defending NFC championship team against the forty
nine Ers, a team that has continuity, that's played with
each other for multiple years.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
We can't just expect the Jets, who were a seven
win seat seven win team last year, to go out
there and compete with like one of the best teams
in the league.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Week one is always a little tricky. There's things that
happen you don't understand, you don't don't prepare for. There's
you over prepare for certain things that don't happen. And
Aaron Rodgers is coming off an achilles injury, so like
that he hasn't played with that team in a long time.
You know, I think this could be used as a
good thing for the Jets if they take this as
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a measuring stick game, like, hey, guys, we just played
a championship team, which you heard him in the postgame
talk about that and say we need to, you know,
step up that urgency in the building everywhere, everywhere, everywhere.
And then they also could use it for you know,
they got they got gashed by a Kyle Shanahan offense,
who who runs that same exact offense Miami. They play
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them twice a year, so they got a little jump
start for Miami.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
You could take that. And then also like we don't
that that offense has so much catching up to do.
I mean, Breise Hall is still there.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Wilson's a really good target, and Aaron Rodgers he's smart
enough to learn what he has to do to be productive.
That was his first game with live action bullet so
like I'm pumping the brakes on the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
He could still throw the ball, you see. You can
see he can still throw the ball still.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Pretty so once they start figuring out like everyone who
their team is, everyone may not. You said that there's
a few teams that have certain identities. Yeah, they're trying
to be that identity. And it worked this week. They
still have to develop that for the next two to
three weeks.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It's not like we're not like pushing panic button on
the Jets yet.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So you were a seventh round pick from Kent State.
Brock Purty's a seventh round pick. And when you're a
seventh round pick, you're usually not a four to three
guy or not a six to four guy. But there
is a determination that comes with later round picks. I mean,
last night the Niners had an undrafted running back, a
seventh round quarterback, a seventh round receiver. Do you ever
look at like with a Brock Purtty, did you look
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at Being a seventh rounder is a bit of an
advantage because expectations are so low. You're like in the
shadows of the building. I mean, I look at Brock. Pretty,
there's no pressure like I mean you you watch these
Caleb Williams and then it's it's Jade and Daniels. We're
already banging on him after a week one. Pretty to
me looks so comfortable with what he is. But that's
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just when I see a quarterback, I see a kid
not nervous feet makes the right read he's a cerebral kid,
obviously to pick it up, I mean, what do you
see do you see? Do you see a guy that's
gonna be limited eventually or or are we looking at
the best seventh round quarterback ever taken.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
We could be looking at the best seventh round quarterback
we've ever taken in the league. And for the sheer
fact that he is always improving. So if he struggled
some last week with a certain throw, you see him
go after it the next week and he makes that throw.
He still fits the ball in tight windows. And he's
gonna grow more when like the playmakers start disinappear, you know,
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because in the next two or three years, he's gonna
he's gonna lose a kiddle, he's gonna lose a debo,
and that's when you'll see his growth.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
You're not gonna see it right now.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
He's he's a really great game day operator who delivers
the football where it needs to be. He knows how
to identify the defense, he knows how to call out
the protection, and those are huge things.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
For a quarterback to do.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
If if you get like three of those things or
two of those things done, then you could start using
your football athleticism.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
You can start learning the game.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It's all these people that like rag On brock Purty
for being a game manager, like that's that's your job
as a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
You are the game manager.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Like you go out, you call the play, you touch
the You touch the ball every play, and so you
have the mercy of the team in your hands at
every single play.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
That you have that you touch the ball.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
So, like, why wouldn't you want a guy that's gonna
make great decisions, that can see the defense, that can
communicate the play, that can see who matchups. Like, that's
what that's what you want at the quarterback position. I
think brock Purty is doing a great job. I hope
he continues to keep it going.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So it's crazy to me the Chargers didn't win football
games and they score twenty four points or more. Sunday
they scored they only score twenty two and they win decisively.
Described me, or explain to me how a coach can
come in with the same players and they are significantly
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more physical. It's the same guys. Now, their first two
picks were offensive guys. What does Harbaugh do at every stop?
I mean, tell me a coach you had like to me,
offens is choreography, an efficiency. Defense is a lot of
physicality and willing to be violent. Yeah, willing to test
your soul. I mean I watched the Chargers I'm like,
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it's the same guys. That defense was just different.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
You could argue they have a worse team this year,
like talently, oh yeah, yeah, you know, and it goes
down to how they practice, how they prepare, and you
could I sat down with Harball once when you know
I was coming, I was in free agency, and you
could just see this guy had a different like tune
to him, like he just lived, breathe died football. And
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when you have a guy like that, I know for
a fact those guys practice hard. I know their practices
are probably mentally grueling. I know he has this whole
stick where he's like, oh, the fun guy, but I
guarantee behind closed doors, he'll get up in you if
you need it, if the team needs it.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
And that's what's being shown on the game field.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
A tough team that practice is hard, that prepared, that
has the discipline to do what it takes to win
a game, not put up numbers or make headlines, doing
what it takes to win that specific game.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
That's what Harball does.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Well.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, I got to ask you about the Patriots. We
had talked about it during the week, and I'm like, listen,
T Higgins has gone Boyd is gone, Mixing's gone. Those
are elite players. I'm like, I don't know what I'm
gonna get one of the It was a corner game
for me. It wasn't the game I watched primarily. The
one thing that was obvious was how.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Physical they were.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
The tackling was good. I mean, is it a one off?
What did you take from that team?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
You know, with a game that the Patriots played and
to come out on Week one and have a big
victory against a team they probably should have lost to.
It's great for that building because that coaching staff drawed Mayo,
everything that this this this staff has been preaching to
the team and organized team activities, mini camps, training camp,
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everything that they've been preaching just showed that it worked right.
So if they continue to play, messaging worked. The messaging work.
So that's how you get guys to buy in. That's
how you get your confidence to grow bigger. That's how
you get guys to come in a little earlier. Because
everything that they work hard on that they got some
production out of it. They got they got a little
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taste of what what it tastes like to win and
b one to oh, so you know, going into this
second week against Seattle, Seattle's got to come across the country. Yep,
you know, they got a new head coach the Patriots.
If they play the game the way they played last week,
they'll win. They'll win this week. They'll be too and oh,
you know, mistake free, get a couple turnovers when the
when the special teams battle, win on third down. They
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did every single one of those things. It looked like
a stereotypical Bill Belichick type game, you know, with the
messaging from Drawn Mayo, which is is ironic that you
know also with Seattle that these two teams have different coaches,
but it seems like they have the same philosophies of
the coaches before with a person that can communicated differently.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, so Bill Belichick's on Instagram. Are you following him?
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I think I am following coach.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I will say, Bill's got a wealth of information and
knowledge and wisdom. I think, you know, I don't blame him.
He's like Ryan Seacrest. Somebody told me today he's like
gotten nine jobs, and good for him. But but I
will say when I see him, he's he's he's kind
of disconnected from coaching. Briefly, and I and I said
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this when I work with Sean Payton, Bill's got too
much wisdom to do what we do. Like, there's too
much there he has to give. If I just said,
where will he because he's gonna give it, He's gonna
send his resume out again. Do you think he's kind
of a Northeast guy? It'll be in like like, for instance,
Jets comes open, you think he would stay, Would he
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take it? Does he feel like to you if there's
like five jobs he would take? Or is the league
open to him?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I think the situation has to be right. Northeast probably helps.
He's got family there. Yeah, that's where all the family's at.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
The real enticing one to me is is if the
New York Giants open up.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
And I'm not calling for anyone's job. I love day ball.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Day ball is my favorite, but you know the fate
of what they've put on the fields, well, Daniel Jones,
you know, and then you're gonna go down with that ship.
And so if that opens up, I remember vividly any
time we played in New York or we play the Giants,
you could just see a little like jingle in Belichick's
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spirit because he loved talking about those old Giants teams,
and he loved talking about that organization. You know, you
could tell that he loved the New York Football Giants
and with everything that he exemplified from the old footage
of when he was the DC at you know, the
Giants playing against that West Coast, same kind of te
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trap play the Niners ran that everyone runs like. He
would bring up these old Giants. He just loves the Giants.
So I think that would be, you know, probably the
place he would want to go to. But depending on
other situations, I mean, he's gonna he's gonna probably want
to go somewhere where he doesn't have to, you know,
rebuild something completely.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Well, I mean in affairs, he does see the value
of quarterback.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
He does.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I mean I think that's like, I mean, that's why
Harball went to the Chargers. You get Herbert, Yeah, that's
why it's a great gig. Yeah. Cowboys, Yeah, Dak Prescott.
Although I will tell you I want to talk to
I will tell you is that people bang on Mike
McCarthy and I've been critical and because it's the Cowboys job, Julian,
it's on TV, so any clock snaffoo, any situational mistake.
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I mean, I remember when Andy Reid was in Philadelphia,
Oh yeah, was getting crushed, and I'm like, if he's
in Jackson Building, nobody watches the games. I watched Dallas.
I thought they looked spectacularly well coached.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
They did, and they always do they I mean the
regular season, they look great. And I went on the
pregame show, I went on Fox Kickoff and said, you know,
I'm not worried about Dak Prescott this this week. I'm
not worried about Dak Prescott in Week thirteen. I'm worried
about Dak Prescott in December and December and January. That's
when you really want to see if all the the
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investment of everything they did in the off season during
this that's when it matters, you know, because going twelve
and four and getting knocked out in the first round again, like,
that's not what we're looking for. So, you know, Dallas,
Dak Prescott's a really good football player. We all know
that Ceedee Lamb looked like he didn't miss a beat,
didn't he?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
And they, to their credit, they got the ball to
CD Lamb, and they got.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
The ball to ceedd Lamb Mike McCarthy. I mean, he's
a great football coach. He got a Super Bowl. But
like you're also, like you just said, we're playing and
every game is on TV. I mean we talked about
Dallas on this show all off season and and that's
just how it's always going to be, you know. So
the expectations are always extremely high, which they make those
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expectations high.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
And so if it you know it.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
If it goes sour or if it goes it goes
in the wrong direction. This this playoffs, I can see
them making a move. And it's not like they're they're
firing them. It's just they're not renewing the contract. So
it makes everyone look all right.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
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Speaker 1 (13:58):
App the When you were in the league, I'll wrap
it up this. When you were in the league, New
England didn't do a lot of splashy acquisitions and free agency.
It was draft developed. They'd find like a B player
that was a good fit. They'd go to Cleveland find
a linebacker. But it's interesting because Baker had a reputation
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Baker Mayfield, and then he goes to Tampa and it's
like he's grown up. He's changed, and it's like he
drove me nuts in Cleveland. Now he's one of my
favorite quarterbacks. In your experience in the NFL, it's like
he's had a little bit of a personality makeover. He's
grown up. Did you see that happen a lot where
a guy comes in and he gets money, he's immature,
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and then his next stop it's like, oh, he's a
grown up? Or are you what you are? I mean,
go to your career like Matt Slater was mature the
first day walked into the building. Yeah, I mean, there's
just guys. But in terms of most of the guys
you played with, they are what they are. Or are
there some Baker Mayfield where it's like, wow, I'm humbled
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and they they really change and become much better leaders
and more adult.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, I don't have a specific example of that, but
it does happen. I mean, you look at rich Cannon
early in his career, he wasn't anything, and then he
goes to the Raiders and becomes MVP and was like
one of the first change arm trajectory type quarterbacks. Like
you know, sometimes these guys get little taste a second
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life when they get a change the environment. And Baker
Mayfield has done that. And you know what a perfect
situation for him. I heard you talking about. You know,
he doesn't have the expectations following Tom Brady, but also
going to a team that has continuity for like the
last eight years.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I mean they had the same thing.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
They have one of the best tackles in the leagues
with Wurfs. They got Godwin and Evans who are like
really good football players. So like, you know, that's a
perfect thing. But you know, I don't have any specific examples.
You know, we we pretty much had a lot of
good dudes in our locker room. Like if and if
you weren't, you weren't there. And that's just how it
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was in New England. But you know another team that
does that, I think that had that get that always
has a pretty tight locker room. That I was just
so impressed with was the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Like this Mason kid, undrafted guy comes and it's not
just Kyle Shanahan that we got to give our credit to.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
It's got to be John Lynch.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
It's gotta be the York Family because that whole that
that trifecta that they have, like to be able to
find a Rock Purty, to be able to have a
running back come in and and do what he did
the Mason kid with one hundred and forty yards against
a really good defense. Like that's continuity and that that
comes from the trifecta.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
So yeah, you know, San Francisco does a better job
of getting Kittles a fest rounder, of getting production.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And then making a splash with Williams. Hey we hey,
we need to we need to address something. Let's get Williams.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
I mean that.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
That's that you got to tip your cap to everyone
over there, and they got to get it done this year.
So there's no more, you know, let's get it done boys.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Julian Edelman his podcast Games with Names, new episode every Tuesday.
Great seeing you again. Jmack with the news.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Or do you have.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
No no, no, this is the herd Line news.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Well, I did want to ask Edelman a quick question
about the Jets last night. We were looking for positives
to take away Colin I said, the offensive line held.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Up pretty well.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, it's a good starting And then he.
Speaker 7 (17:32):
Gave me a pass rock win rate stat that said
the Jets were twenty seventh in Week one.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, I mean twenty seventh they get against Bosa in
that whole game. I mean, that's that's a really good
football team that they played on the defensive side, on
every side.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
So it's week one. Let's like, let's pump the brakes
on the Jets.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
The sky's not falling.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
This sky is not falling.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Let them learn how to play the game like they
haven't played together. Like, if anything, let's get some more
reps in practice.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
I don't want to go overboard with the lack of
preseason rep but a lot of the quarterbacks who didn't
play in the preseason were pretty awful.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah this point, and then you're gonna see it, you know,
splash over in the first core of the season. We're
gonna see the injuries go up because guys haven't calcified
and haven't been used to it. It used to be, you know,
you train and training camp was tough and if you
if you got out of training camp, you were gonna
last for the season. And it would be good if
you got hurt in training camp because then you knew
what your team was. You know, now that's kind of
(18:27):
been gray area with the regular season.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, Bill Poullion used to me it took three weeks
of hitting to be ready for Week one. I don't
think anybody does three weeks of hitting.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
No, that's why our injuries are great.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
That's why Burrow hasn't played, and that's why we have
five missing starting quarterbacks every year.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I mean, we're gonna start seeing some ripple effects.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Do you have one guest story?
Speaker 4 (18:45):
I mean, we could do some stories if you want
to know.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
We got a guest coming up.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
One story, all right, let's go to Romadunze of the
Chicago Bears. We know he suffered a bit of an
injury in mcl spray and he's considered week to week
not great to start out for the Bears, A big
white receiver injury.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Well, I think also he was a guy that was
considered he was going to be super productive early because
he was such a mature player at Washington, he had
so many years of production, so that's shocking didn't do much.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
We can also do this quick story on Raheem Morris
feeling that Kirk Cousins is healthy. I know you've been
noting that he hasn't really moved in the pocket at
all at all. Week one, he was just like a statue.
I saw a stat They didn't won one play action
play the entire game. Cong I remember, that's why McVeigh
and Shanahan loved kirk Cousins, the play action deep balls
over the middle. He didn't run any of that because
(19:30):
they were afraid of the Steelers pass rush. If Kirk
Cousins can't do that in Week two, they're going to
get destroyed in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, that's an interesting game. Atlanta's got the pieces. Pittsburghe's arguable,
was a terrible matchup. A their defensive front and pass rush,
and B the Falcons coach was now the Steelers coordinator,
so he knew the entire roster. So there's an argument,
like I watched Atlanta and I thought, God, they're playing
very poorly. They overwhelmed so that my guest says Atlanta
(20:00):
is much better, very quickly on offensive defensive both. I
think both. I think the Steelers have a way of
ugling up football games, and they did. They took control,
they pushed Atlanta around. I don't think that's what Atlanta
will look like going forward, all right? J Mack with
the news.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by. It's
the Herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Nick Saban's gone, Alabama has a new coach. What's it
like to replace a legend? That's next live in LA.
It's the Herd.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
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Speaker 8 (20:34):
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Speaker 1 (21:10):
Well, generally speaking, a rule of thumb is don't ever
replace a legend. But Kaylin de Borr replaced the ultimate
legend in Alabama. But I had said this last year.
He is as good as anybody in this country. What
he did at Washington without a lot of NFL bodies
to get to the championship game, to me is absolutely remarkable.
(21:32):
They're two and zero. Here comes Wisconsin, the games on
Fox and Kaylen is joining us live.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
You know, I was just.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Talking during the break. Nick Saban lives five houses down
from you, So it's not like I mean to be
honest with you. Did you lean into Nick when you
took the job. Did you give him a call and
ask a couple of questions.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
Or I even got offered the job or took it
just you know, just to have that you know, that
was really the first time I'd ever had a chance
to talk with him. And you don't want to, you know,
let him know that you know everything he did for
this program. If I became the head coach, you know,
it would be nothing but embracing embracing that and everyone
(22:15):
else that helped him have all the success along the way.
And of course when I got here there's that's probably
when the most questions are and you know, there is
always help that he was ready to offer anytime I
needed to.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, you guys, are actually very similar. You're You're more offensive,
he's defensive. But Don James was one of the coaches
that really helped him. I mean he has acknowledged the
former Husky coach. And by the way, as you well
know at Washington, Don is you know, the icon is
that do you see similarities with you and Nick? I
do the discipline of the efficiency, no wasted time, you know.
(22:51):
I mean I look at you two and I just
think I see a lot of the same personality. He
may yell a little louder, but do you see some similarities.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
I think that's probably for the people who know us
both or played for us, both coached with us both.
But I think that you know the success of a
team or a program, I think there are the common
you know, non negotiables, the values that you have and
the styles may be different, or you know, just how
you go about it may be different, but I think
(23:21):
those non negotiables are are all the same. And so
that the Don James a reference that was really part
of our first conversation, you know, something that tied us
immediately and something I know he really has always held
on too, and something that I did as well.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
You know, the sec is different the PAC twelve. Your
year in the PAC twelve was the best I've ever
seen the PAC twelve. And those teams, by the way,
I think are twenty one and two this year, So
you really saw the best of the PAC twelve. But
the SEC is different. It's just bigger. Upfront, Like when
you look at film, do you notice the difference PAC
(23:58):
twelve to SEC? Does it jump off the tape to you?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Kaylin?
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Yeah, you know, we haven't got into the SEC games,
but I've watched enough and I look at our own
team and just up front, you know what that looks like.
And there's there's no question the size of our guys,
and just you know, you're trying to make sure that
there's still athleticism and and it's it's pretty impressive the
way that these guys.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Can move, whether it's up on the lines or the
second levels.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Just everyone you know has has that that strength as
that mass, and you know, we're just trying to make
sure we use all those tools that we have, you know,
to our disposal.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
The Jalen Milroe the offense. If I if somebody never
watched because Panics and all those receivers, you were an
aerial show. I mean, it was vertical, it was hyper aggressive.
I don't know, I mean, Alabama's a bigger program, but
it'd be hard to duplicate that level of talent at
any school. Will your offense eventually look like Washington or
(24:59):
was that just you just had uniquely talented guys with
the Huskies.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Yeah, I think there was unique traits that those guys had,
and we really tailored the offense to them. And that's
going to be the key for us is Jalen's got
some unique traits in special ways. And you know, as
much as he's doing a good job of really learning
the intricacies, the offense is the new the offense, the nuances.
(25:24):
We got to do a good job of continuing to
evolve and around you know, all the players, but it
is driven by the quarterback and so you know, front
and center with him. We need to make sure we
continue to adjust and I think every week, you know,
that's that's part of the process, is understanding what went
really well, what can we continue to work on and
you know, Taylor around what he what his skill set is.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
So Wisconsin Camp Randall is nuts. It is one of
the great environments and I've always said this. In the NFL,
you got twenty eight year old adults, married kids, grown ups.
You take a nineteen year old and you put him
at Camp Randal on a sadder and it gets loud
and you have a fumble in your trail when you're
going into a harsh environment. You had a couple at Washington.
(26:07):
Where you go on the road, you got twenty year
old kids. Do you coach different that week? Is the
messaging different?
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Yeah? You know, the guys are just really excited.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
As much as we love playing at Brian Denny Stadium
here in Tuscaloosa, you know, I think there is something
special about going on the road into hostile environments. And
you know, having grown up in the Midwest and well
aware of Wisconsin, the tradition and everything there, and Coach
Fickles done a great job here, continue to move that
program here in the second year. But our guys, you know,
(26:38):
this week, they understand, you know, I wanted to make
sure that they knew, you know, on Sunday when we
came back in and again here today.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
What it would look like, what we feel like.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
They've been in that environment before, and so you know,
looking forward to going up there and locking arms with
each other, and it goes through. It first starts with
the preparation, but that presparation, you know, leading to confidence
and Saturday will come here sooner than later.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
So you lost over thirty players in the transfer portal,
yet you sign the number three transfer class. I mean, listen,
life changes, you have to adapt. Did you prefer when
it was just high school kids? Do you like some
of the transfer portal situations? What is recruiting like for
a coach now in college football?
Speaker 5 (27:22):
Yeah, you're just always on your toes.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
You know, you're just always really trying to make sure
with your own team that you have a culture where
there's continuity and the attrition is just really on a
lower level. And you know, the one thing that is
nice about the portal is that you know when there
are you know, especially coming in right now. The portal
obviously caused these situations, but there's there's areas where.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
We have gaps.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
We were able to, you know, do the best we
could to fill in those gaps, and I think we
got some high quality not just players, but people that
have come in that fittess and have done a really
nice job. But you know, I think when you could
layout for years ahead back, you know, and that's just
not that long ago. You know, how many high school
guys you were going to bring in each year. There
was something to that, you know, and just stay in
(28:11):
the course and maintaining relationships with high school coaches and
all that stuff. You know, that's still I think where
it all starts. But you know, there is a filler.
I think of gaps that the portal does allow us
to do. And you know that's universal across the board
for everyone.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Number four tied. Take on Wisconsin at Camp Randall, one
of the elite stadiums and environments in the sport. He's
as good as any young coach. Kalen de Boor. What
he did at Washington was pretty remarkable. The expectations at
Bama are even a not higher, Kalen. As always, By
the way, I don't know what you did in your decorating,
but the room has got more light and bright. Nick
(28:47):
was a little dark and intimidating. Your office is sunny
and bright, optimistic. So no knock on Nick's design, but
you look like Bama's coach. I love the office, and congrats.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Colin Roll tide, all right, Kaylin de Boor, that's funny, Nick.
Nick Saban's right down the street. So Don James. I
grew up with Don James. Don James was a legendary
coach at Washington when he passed away. Nick Saban said,
it all started with Don. I learned how to coach
from Don James, and then Kaylen de Boor goes to Washington,
and when you're at Washington, he's the bear Bryant of
(29:23):
the coaches. Don James a legendary coach. Saban like points
to Don James, and I grew up with Don James,
where great special teams, great defense, ran the ball, passed infrequently,
but yet they always had NFL quarterbacks. But it was
like it was like Saban football forty five years ago,
like no turnovers, great special teams, blocking kicks, and kind
(29:43):
of created the environment of Husky Stadium, which remains one
of the great college football environments. Here's our Week two
NFL schedule, j Mac. We talked about this a lot
of big favorites, so you know there's upsets coming. I'll
throw a game at you and you tell me where
you're leaning, all right. Thursday, Buffalo at Miami Buffalo dug
themselves out of an ugly home hold at home against Arizona.
(30:06):
Buffalo at Miami, I go Miami. I feel the same way.
Oh oh, okay, I do. I'll throw another one at you.
San Francisco off a big win short week at red
hot Sam Darnold.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
I would probably take the points with the Vikings. Obviously,
the Niners were geeked for the Jets opener Monday night football.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Now you gotta go on the road.
Speaker 7 (30:31):
You know, we're all in on Kevin O'Connell, who's an
excellent coach, and the Flores defense. You know, kept Daniel
Jones confused. Can you do the same to party. We'll
see if McCaffrey returns. I don't think Jordan Mason's going
for a buck fifty again.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Come on, okay, Rams all beat up, I mean, falling
apart offensively at Arizona.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
I'm inclined to still take the Rams, but probably a pass.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Wait, we don't disagree on any games as well. Hold on,
hold on, Joe Burrow at Kansas City.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
I think I gotta go Chiefs, dude. This Chiefs team
was the most annoying thing Hollywood Brown wasn't even there
in the opener, and they were kind of sort of
a machine.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Pa Checko's good.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Rice is good.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I don't see how.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
It's probably a stay away at six six and a half.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
But my favorite pick this week right now, Houston hosting
the Meat.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
You love that. Yeah, you're all over.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
So do you have one game you love? Prime time
favorite for you?
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Primetime touchdown Houston at home against Caleb Williams. I love
the Texans. Do you have one game you look at? Well,
Jets Titans for you.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
I don't think I can go to the go to
remember I had first half under last night. It was
it sitting on twenty and then the field goal with
like four seconds left.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
It flies over.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Just I don't know.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
I guess Dallas Cowboys. I just don't think the Saints
are as good as forty seven points. I think the
Cowboys are a bully. I think they push around the
Saints in the trenches and world to victory.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
That's a good way to describe them. Cowboys get rolling downhill.
They're Tyson in his prime. Punch them back in December
and January you get a little skittish. All right, we'll
see you Tomorrow and Wednesday, Joel Klatt will stop by
Live in La.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
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