July 17, 2025 • 19 mins
Daniel Cormier is BACK with another episode of DC Check-In with Dustin Poirier ahead of his retirement fight for the BMF title against Max Holloway at UFC 318. Dustin reflects on his Hall of Fame career, and how finishing his career with a third win against Max in his home state of Louisiana would be a dream come true. #Volume
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
What's Up Guys, UFC three to eighteen goes down this weekend.
It's time for my row performance playbook for Max Holloway
and Dustin Fourier. For Max Holloway to get the job done,
he's got to do what he did in the second
fight earlier. He cannot allow for Dustin to sprint out
ahead of him and have to work his way back
into the fight as he did last time, and he
did that very well to make it a competitive fight.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
And for Pourier, he's also got to.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Remind Max Holloway that he's the guy that's won two
fights are the first two fights that they had.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
He's got to get his right hand going.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
He's got to try to stun him and hurt him
early to really put Max Holloway on his heels. If
he allows Holloway to get going and start to buill momentum,
he will have a lot of problems. But for Max,
it's set the pace, set the tempo. For Dustin, it's.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Remind him and get that right hand working very early.
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Let's go.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So we're back home. It's different, man like, it's it's
interesting being in Louisiana for a.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Fight, especially in the UFC fight.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I was just driving past I think it was on
Canal Street and that big poster you in there that
has gotta feel special.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Man like. I saw it on the drive from lack
Air bro.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah it feels special.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah. I was supposed to fight in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I didn't get to, and man, I was like, man,
I'm so happy that you get to experience this moment.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I was just I fought in twenty fifteen on that car.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, yeah you did.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
How was that?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
It was awesome? Man, that was the last time UFC
was here. Yeah, yeah, it was awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Did they go crazy when you came off?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
But imagine to day though back then you were kind
of like I wasn't main venue, you wasn't there yet.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Yeah, now you're here, Like what is what is the
expectation was going to be like.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Satus, it's gonna be crazy. I think the energy is
gonna be great. It's gonna be crazy. Last last one
in twenty fifteen, I remember like in the locker room
warming up, it just felt right.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I'm just hoping it feels like that Saturday.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Night, especially when you start in the Caja Dome, right, like,
you don't fall in.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
The Cajun Dome.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
You don't black Colosseum, Black and Coliseum. Like your career
has literally started here, is going to end here fund
the Superdome once you fought in the super Dome.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Rich Clementy put on a fight in the Superdome in
two thousand and eight with a car show that had
these nice cars all over cage set up in the
middle of the cars. I fought in the Superdome.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
So, and you know how big is that We had
to from the locker room. From the locker room, we
had to get on a golf cart.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
All the way to the k Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Till more, Dusty, Because it's big.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
It's big to.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Be walled, especially when you're down there on the field,
super Dome, Changing Dome, Smoothie King Center. It has to
feel very special that it makes its way full circle
for you to have this.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Moment, Yeah, bro, to lay the gloves down and really
retire where I started fighting, I couldn't.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
It's a dream, it's a dream come true.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I remember when I first met you way back in
like twenty eleven. I think when I doubled, Dustin stopped
saying that because you.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Mean, that was points, That was points, That was points.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So you keep telling people you took me down, and people.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Believe it too, I mean because it's true.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
They believe it because I'm an old retired guy and
you're still fighting, so they tend to believe the guy
that's doing It's true. We got into that room, right,
It was a small one. It wasn't even a big
gym yet, so I went the second time. First time
I met you, it was inside that like it was
my pig wigly. It was that anytime, anytime fitness, and
you were like, Hey, I'm in the w e C.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
And I was like, wow, you're in the w C.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And then I went back the next year and you
were like two years later, I'm making my UFC debut
and You're gonna fight Josh Grisby and you were like,
I'm about the buzz this dude ass And I was like,
they got a lot of expectations of this guy.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Anything, he'll be good.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
And I remember sitting in my apartment and San lose In.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I watched you.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Make that UFC debut and you put it on him
just like you said yeah, and it was all systems go.
Like this career from what the expectation was when you
started to where it is today, could you ever imagine?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
No, No, bro, I didn't know what it was going
to be.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I knew I was going to try as hard as
I could, do everything I can to be the best
and find out. But no clue, no clue is going
to be this long of a journey and this the
heights I've had, It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Can you point to a moment like your best moment.
I mean, it's a career filled with right you've had.
For me, my greatest dust before your moment was when
you knocked out Connor and Abudai bro I stood up
on the chair like I smagged the table and it
was like, oh my god, you can't do that. You
slapped the table and you make this big impact. But like,
is there one moment that stands out to you more
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than anywhere? It was like, damn, dude, Like when it's
all said and done right you at home and laugh, yette,
you go?
Speaker 5 (05:21):
That was that was special.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
That night you're talking about was super special.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
You know, being an underdog traveling across the world during
COVID and get quarantine at that hotel, quarantined in a
couple of days in Vegas before they let me get
to the plane and soff.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
And we had that conversation sitting in the lobby.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
You're not at the same hotel, Yeah hotel.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
We said that it was like a holiday in or
something like that. Yeah, we had that conversation. And once again,
it was the second time that you actually said I'm
about to put.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
It on this dude.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
He did it with Josh Grisby, and you did it
with Connor McGregor, and that second time, you just feel
different going into this one, the post to the first one.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It was just maturity?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Maturity, and I listen to the noise of critics and
fans and stuff. You know, when a guy talks that much,
it's easy to get caught up reading headlines and stuff
like that. I just didn't care.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
We watched that fight from Lafayette in that sports bar.
All of us got together.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
When you fall count of the first time and you
just you weren't yourself. But I remember he insaulted all
of us when we were doing that first conference together.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, we were together.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
He was insulting me because by default I was with
you and you're from Lafette's talking on Lafayette.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You're like, he's like, tell you shit about Moto. Yeah,
one hill billy, one ghettle, he'll billy, just making fun
of me. But I think that moment to me was
probably because I remember that in that fight you kind
of went.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I was like, oh he got his timing.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I hit him with a good hook. You hit him
with a nice check hook.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
You're like Okay, I got you, Like, did you feel
like you knew?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Like, Okay, this is this is what it is.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I felt confident, like I started getting his rhythm, miss timing,
making him, miss countering him.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I was like, Okay, here we go. It's happening. It's
starting to happen, you know, you know when it's not that.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I was on the back foot or coming from losing
rounds or something and trying to get the momentum back.
But I just felt that starting to go in my
way and I was like, oh, this is gonna be
a long night for him.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
That that was a great movement.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
That was such a great moment.
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Speaker 3 (08:46):
Holloway, you guys have fought two times.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Very rarely do guys fight three times with one guys
won both of those fights.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
How did come to be Max Holloway?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
And when you got that name?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Is said? Why you came back?
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Because even last year he thought about that might have
been it for you.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Was the opportunity to fight Max Holloway for the BMF
Championship a reason enough for you to say, Okay, I
want to do this one more time.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
No, after the Islam fight, I was really thinking about retirement,
but just my story and the person I am like
if I came try to bounce back one more time
before I lay the gloves down, it felt like I
was doing myself a disservice.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, I wanted to write the ship one more time
in a big fight.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I actually asked for Justin Gaigie when I reached out
to the UFC and said, hey, can we I'm going
to retire.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
If there's any way we can do in New Orleans,
let me get Gae Chee. We're one in one. It
makes sense to me.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
But then he was This was before the news came
out that he was supposed to fight Dan Hooker. This
is how far back we've been planning. Yeah, and you
see said, no, he's already booked. He's fighting Dan Hooker
and whatever date. They said, well, we want you to
fight Max. So they wanted the Max fight and it
just and I asked him to come into New Orleans
and they said they were going to do everything in
their power to make it happen.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Couldn't promise me, but they were going to try the best,
and it all happened.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
What made you feel so confident that you could ask
for that a place I hadn't been in ten years?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I know I didn't. I just get shot this swing
for you? You miss all the shots you don't swing at.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, you don't think this.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, Dane and Hunter told me, they said, I can't
promise you anything, but I do. I can't promise you
it's going to happen, but I do promise you we'll
try our best.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, and you get the word Max Halloween be MF title, right.
You fought for that belt now on two different occasions,
Like winning that belt would mean another notch in your
belt in terms of your legacy. When you talk about
legacy and think about legacy, like what is Dustin Purrier
going to be remembered for?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I don't know, man.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
This last couple of weeks has been a lot of
like reflection and looking back in my career and hard
to do that when I'm about to fight one of
the best in the world on Saturday. So I don't
really I'm not diving into it yet. But I've been
feeling so much love and seeing moments and video clips
in my career that I kind of forgot about. I
don't think about often. It's just crazy when I put
all together. It's been such a crazy, crazy journey, man.
And but to get to be MF belt in a retirement,
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to never lose two fights in a row and fifty
something fights, it's important.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It's very important for me.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
How does this one play out you in Max? Because
in the first fight he was undefeated guy, he submitted him.
That was in Los Angeles, Yeah, Vegas, Vegas, Okay. Then
second fight, you're in Atlanta for the interim championship.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You start really fast.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
He actually worked his way back into the fight through
the middle rounds, and then you went to a second gear.
How does this one look Saturday? And pointing to that
one that was that was another one of those moments
where you looked like you had matured in fighting, because
in the Korean zombie fight, when it started to kind
of go like that, you weren't able to go to
that next level like you developed that over time.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
How does this one look Saturday? To why you don't
have to go to that next level to kind of
keep him off.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I might have to. I might have to go to second, third,
four or fifth year. You know, I'm prepared to do that.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I mean, we're both the best We've ever been a
lot of big fights experience under our belt, and he's
been champion, BMF champion, He's fought the best of the best.
He's a Hall of Famer, so he's bringing so much
fighting knowledge into this fight, and so am I.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
You know, I have a long career. I fought the
best of the best of myself. The thing about this
trilogy is is thirteen years you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Thirteen years, so longest spanning trilogy in UFC history, is it. Yeah,
there's never been a trilogy that took that much time
to complete.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Thirteen years, eighteen years.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
But because of that DC, it's been so far a
move between each one, we're completely different.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Each fight is a new fight.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Fight is a new fight.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, if I fought him last year or two years ago,
then I can say, oh, it's probably gonna be a
lot of similarity.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
We're completely different five years twenty eighteen or nineteen year,
twenty nineteen or eighteen, I don't know. That's crazy, right,
And the things he's done since that fight, the things
I've done since that fight, we're different.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Watching them in that Gates You fight, Like, what do
you take from that? Opposed to watching them in the
Ilia fight?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Is he you know?
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Like because in the Gates You fight, he looked amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
He looked amazing. I think stylistic too, Stylistic Two Gates.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Is a good fight for him.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Gates She's a good fight for him.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I was everybody I can't bet on the fights, obviously, yeah,
but I was telling everybody I know who does bet
Max By decision. I thought he was gonna just outpoint
him out rhythm. You know, geates, she's dangerous. But I
thought Max would be a little bit crisper technically and
use his link and move.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Around, which he did. He did.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
He was up beautiful, he was up five rounds. He
didn't have to toss himself in the fire in the
last ten seconds. But that's just the kind of fighter
he is. So that's what makes me excited to fight him.
I want to fight guys like that, and from my
final one, it could be a masterpiece or a war,
something great.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
We can make something great happen on Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
DP.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
You said earlier you're feeling all this love because of
the retirement, but you're a guy that has made a
career on kind of being like underressed, Like guys like
I remember when I was in Miami and you're gonna
fight and you're an underdog, and you walked into this
meeting where we sit and I.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Was like, bro, you're an underdog and he was like, man,
I can't call it.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I can't call it.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Like how what's the difference between this, Like how do
you navigate this opposed to in so many instances where
economic Record's gonna beat this dude. Just Gates is gonna
beat this and the alphare is gonna beat this dude.
And you had just prove them wrong, prove wrong, prove
them wrong. How are you in this where it's like
all love and it's it's expected by many, then you
get through Max Howell.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I don't think it's expected by the bookies, by the
by Vegas. I think I'm a dog.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
No, I thought you were the favorite.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Maybe maybe the people might have bet you to a dog,
but you were the favorite when it opened up.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Huh yeah good. But either way, it doesn't matter. I
put in the work and.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Whatever person's won two fights over the person.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Because I'm I don't know the things he's done, the
fights he's won since then, the fights I've lost, uh
my age, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
We gotta find out. But you also just did it.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You literally just did it.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
You said, not by Vegas, I'm the dog because almost
like you, that's the role that you've always do.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You like it. I love it, you love proving you wrong.
You literally just did it. You were like you. I
was like, no, no, I'm trying to say I'm against me.
Please I need it I like it. I like it.
That's why I do my best work.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Dustin, what's the act like? So when Saturday Night ends right,
regardless of the album.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I mean, nobody wants to go out there and you
did what you're supposed to do, Like, ah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you fought a good fight.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
But we all we all knew you I did. It
would motivate me. So backing against me make it, you know,
making something that seems impossible.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I was the champion and against dudes on three occasions,
I was the underdog. I'm like, this is the crazy
I've ever but it makes you makes you want to
work harder. That's when this whole thing's done right and
your your you go back to your beautiful wife and
your daughter and your new kid. How do you look
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back on this whole thing and go, man, I can
take note now because it's like you said, it's hard
to do that when you still got a fight.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I did that with uh Lauren Murphy last weekend. She
was fighting, but she was retiring. How do you keep
it separate? And when you sit back and Lafayette on
Tuesday and you don't have to go to the gym, now,
you still will yeah, like, what do you expect life
to be?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I've done this since I was seventeen years old. I've
been fighting. I don't know what that other side is
I've been I know, I said it a hundred times
this week already, and I've only been here two days.
I've been doing this longer than I haven't been doing this.
I've been fighting longer than I haven't been fighting. Yeah,
I don't know what a normal civilian not without the
cloud of what should I do? People are getting ready
(16:29):
to fight. I know they're getting better. How far am
I away from weight? What could I be doing to learn?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Something like?
Speaker 4 (16:35):
That's always for the last I don't know how many
years in the back of my head, no matter what
I'm doing, you know, it's just a cloud that hovers
over me.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I've never had that gone. I don't know. I don't
know what it's going to feel like. I'm scared. It'll
be nice being scared.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I'm telling you right now, it's nice because there is
It's what makes you great, that ability to always keep
your eye on that prize. But when you have that
freedom to just focus on those other things that matter more,
it's the best and then you also got TV. I
think you're very good on TV and you should do more.
We want you, guys, we want you to join Chail
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and I on our show like whenever you can, and
more stuff at the desk.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
I think you'll be amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
You got business first, Yeah, for sure, a lot of
big business. My place full Saturday, big business, big business.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Somebody asked me last one before I let you go.
They said, hey, uh, you think he's really done? And
they showed me a clip of you talking. I said,
that sounds like a man that's come to peace with
what's happening in the future. Was that hard coming to
that piece?
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Knowing?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Like or your flip flop?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Because there's a guy, Nay Jordan Burrows that wrestles, and
you know Jordan Bones, I said, GB. I said, are
you happy he goes? No, he's that competitive fire still
burns inside. Of course, you got to come to peace
with it, though. How How did you manage to come
to peace with it?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I don't know if I am yet. Yeah, I don't
know if I'm there, you know, ask me in two months.
Maybe I'll better tell you, But I don't know right now.
I'm too close to the.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Two and two.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
I'm too close, man, Yes, I'm too close to the
frame to see the full picture. And uh, we'll see
you know, man.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Dustin, it's been great to watch.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Man. Seriously, I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I'm seriously proud of you, from from that time the
where you are today.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
I couldn't have guessed it.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
From every from that first double leg, but every every.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Time I've been so locked in.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Man, I'm excited for you, guys, Dustin, for you fight Saturday,
UFC three eighteen for the BMF title, to try to
go out on top. That's a fairy tale that not
many of us get. I didn't get it, but GSP
did and so they could be. Maybe Dustin Pourier gets
it too. Make sure you got to go to ESPN.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Don't forget about my boy. Robbie Lawler he did it.
Oh yeah, Robbie did to Robby had the.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Fairy tale ending of all.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Forget about my boy.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Could Robbie have gone fifteen minutes if he had to?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Oh yeah, he could have done twenty five. Was like,
thank you you.
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Speaker 5 (19:10):
Until next time, guys, peace,
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
And for Pourier, he's also got to.
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He's got to get his right hand going.
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Speaker 1 (01:42):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So we're back home. It's different, man like, it's it's
interesting being in Louisiana for a.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Fight, especially in the UFC fight.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I was just driving past I think it was on
Canal Street and that big poster you in there that
has gotta feel special.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Man like. I saw it on the drive from lack
Air bro.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah it feels special.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah. I was supposed to fight in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I didn't get to, and man, I was like, man,
I'm so happy that you get to experience this moment.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I was just I fought in twenty fifteen on that car.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, yeah you did.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
How was that?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
It was awesome? Man, that was the last time UFC
was here. Yeah, yeah, it was awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Did they go crazy when you came off?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
But imagine to day though back then you were kind
of like I wasn't main venue, you wasn't there yet.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Yeah, now you're here, Like what is what is the
expectation was going to be like.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Satus, it's gonna be crazy. I think the energy is
gonna be great. It's gonna be crazy. Last last one
in twenty fifteen, I remember like in the locker room
warming up, it just felt right.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I'm just hoping it feels like that Saturday.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Night, especially when you start in the Caja Dome, right, like,
you don't fall in.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
The Cajun Dome.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
You don't black Colosseum, Black and Coliseum. Like your career
has literally started here, is going to end here fund
the Superdome once you fought in the super Dome.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Rich Clementy put on a fight in the Superdome in
two thousand and eight with a car show that had
these nice cars all over cage set up in the
middle of the cars. I fought in the Superdome.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
So, and you know how big is that We had
to from the locker room. From the locker room, we
had to get on a golf cart.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
All the way to the k Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Till more, Dusty, Because it's big.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
It's big to.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Be walled, especially when you're down there on the field,
super Dome, Changing Dome, Smoothie King Center. It has to
feel very special that it makes its way full circle
for you to have this.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Moment, Yeah, bro, to lay the gloves down and really
retire where I started fighting, I couldn't.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
It's a dream, it's a dream come true.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I remember when I first met you way back in
like twenty eleven. I think when I doubled, Dustin stopped
saying that because you.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Mean, that was points, That was points, That was points.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So you keep telling people you took me down, and people.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Believe it too, I mean because it's true.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
They believe it because I'm an old retired guy and
you're still fighting, so they tend to believe the guy
that's doing It's true. We got into that room, right,
It was a small one. It wasn't even a big
gym yet, so I went the second time. First time
I met you, it was inside that like it was
my pig wigly. It was that anytime, anytime fitness, and
you were like, Hey, I'm in the w e C.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
And I was like, wow, you're in the w C.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And then I went back the next year and you
were like two years later, I'm making my UFC debut
and You're gonna fight Josh Grisby and you were like,
I'm about the buzz this dude ass And I was like,
they got a lot of expectations of this guy.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Anything, he'll be good.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
And I remember sitting in my apartment and San lose In.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I watched you.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Make that UFC debut and you put it on him
just like you said yeah, and it was all systems go.
Like this career from what the expectation was when you
started to where it is today, could you ever imagine?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
No, No, bro, I didn't know what it was going
to be.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I knew I was going to try as hard as
I could, do everything I can to be the best
and find out. But no clue, no clue is going
to be this long of a journey and this the
heights I've had, It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Can you point to a moment like your best moment.
I mean, it's a career filled with right you've had.
For me, my greatest dust before your moment was when
you knocked out Connor and Abudai bro I stood up
on the chair like I smagged the table and it
was like, oh my god, you can't do that. You
slapped the table and you make this big impact. But like,
is there one moment that stands out to you more
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than anywhere? It was like, damn, dude, Like when it's
all said and done right you at home and laugh, yette,
you go?
Speaker 5 (05:21):
That was that was special.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
That night you're talking about was super special.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
You know, being an underdog traveling across the world during
COVID and get quarantine at that hotel, quarantined in a
couple of days in Vegas before they let me get
to the plane and soff.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
And we had that conversation sitting in the lobby.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
You're not at the same hotel, Yeah hotel.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
We said that it was like a holiday in or
something like that. Yeah, we had that conversation. And once again,
it was the second time that you actually said I'm
about to put.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
It on this dude.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
He did it with Josh Grisby, and you did it
with Connor McGregor, and that second time, you just feel
different going into this one, the post to the first one.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It was just maturity?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Maturity, and I listen to the noise of critics and
fans and stuff. You know, when a guy talks that much,
it's easy to get caught up reading headlines and stuff
like that. I just didn't care.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
We watched that fight from Lafayette in that sports bar.
All of us got together.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
When you fall count of the first time and you
just you weren't yourself. But I remember he insaulted all
of us when we were doing that first conference together.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, we were together.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
He was insulting me because by default I was with
you and you're from Lafette's talking on Lafayette.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You're like, he's like, tell you shit about Moto. Yeah,
one hill billy, one ghettle, he'll billy, just making fun
of me. But I think that moment to me was
probably because I remember that in that fight you kind
of went.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I was like, oh he got his timing.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I hit him with a good hook. You hit him
with a nice check hook.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
You're like Okay, I got you, Like, did you feel
like you knew?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Like, Okay, this is this is what it is.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I felt confident, like I started getting his rhythm, miss timing,
making him, miss countering him.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I was like, Okay, here we go. It's happening. It's
starting to happen, you know, you know when it's not that.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I was on the back foot or coming from losing
rounds or something and trying to get the momentum back.
But I just felt that starting to go in my
way and I was like, oh, this is gonna be
a long night for him.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
That that was a great movement.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
That was such a great moment.
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Speaker 3 (08:46):
Holloway, you guys have fought two times.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Very rarely do guys fight three times with one guys
won both of those fights.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
How did come to be Max Holloway?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
And when you got that name?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Is said? Why you came back?
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Because even last year he thought about that might have
been it for you.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Was the opportunity to fight Max Holloway for the BMF
Championship a reason enough for you to say, Okay, I
want to do this one more time.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
No, after the Islam fight, I was really thinking about retirement,
but just my story and the person I am like
if I came try to bounce back one more time
before I lay the gloves down, it felt like I
was doing myself a disservice.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, I wanted to write the ship one more time
in a big fight.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I actually asked for Justin Gaigie when I reached out
to the UFC and said, hey, can we I'm going
to retire.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
If there's any way we can do in New Orleans,
let me get Gae Chee. We're one in one. It
makes sense to me.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
But then he was This was before the news came
out that he was supposed to fight Dan Hooker. This
is how far back we've been planning. Yeah, and you
see said, no, he's already booked. He's fighting Dan Hooker
and whatever date. They said, well, we want you to
fight Max. So they wanted the Max fight and it
just and I asked him to come into New Orleans
and they said they were going to do everything in
their power to make it happen.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Couldn't promise me, but they were going to try the best,
and it all happened.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
What made you feel so confident that you could ask
for that a place I hadn't been in ten years?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I know I didn't. I just get shot this swing
for you? You miss all the shots you don't swing at.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, you don't think this.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, Dane and Hunter told me, they said, I can't
promise you anything, but I do. I can't promise you
it's going to happen, but I do promise you we'll
try our best.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, and you get the word Max Halloween be MF title, right.
You fought for that belt now on two different occasions,
Like winning that belt would mean another notch in your
belt in terms of your legacy. When you talk about
legacy and think about legacy, like what is Dustin Purrier
going to be remembered for?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I don't know, man.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
This last couple of weeks has been a lot of
like reflection and looking back in my career and hard
to do that when I'm about to fight one of
the best in the world on Saturday. So I don't
really I'm not diving into it yet. But I've been
feeling so much love and seeing moments and video clips
in my career that I kind of forgot about. I
don't think about often. It's just crazy when I put
all together. It's been such a crazy, crazy journey, man.
And but to get to be MF belt in a retirement,
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to never lose two fights in a row and fifty
something fights, it's important.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It's very important for me.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
How does this one play out you in Max? Because
in the first fight he was undefeated guy, he submitted him.
That was in Los Angeles, Yeah, Vegas, Vegas, Okay. Then
second fight, you're in Atlanta for the interim championship.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You start really fast.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
He actually worked his way back into the fight through
the middle rounds, and then you went to a second gear.
How does this one look Saturday? And pointing to that
one that was that was another one of those moments
where you looked like you had matured in fighting, because
in the Korean zombie fight, when it started to kind
of go like that, you weren't able to go to
that next level like you developed that over time.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
How does this one look Saturday? To why you don't
have to go to that next level to kind of
keep him off.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I might have to. I might have to go to second, third,
four or fifth year. You know, I'm prepared to do that.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I mean, we're both the best We've ever been a
lot of big fights experience under our belt, and he's
been champion, BMF champion, He's fought the best of the best.
He's a Hall of Famer, so he's bringing so much
fighting knowledge into this fight, and so am I.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
You know, I have a long career. I fought the
best of the best of myself. The thing about this
trilogy is is thirteen years you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Thirteen years, so longest spanning trilogy in UFC history, is it. Yeah,
there's never been a trilogy that took that much time
to complete.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Thirteen years, eighteen years.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
But because of that DC, it's been so far a
move between each one, we're completely different.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Each fight is a new fight.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Fight is a new fight.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, if I fought him last year or two years ago,
then I can say, oh, it's probably gonna be a
lot of similarity.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
We're completely different five years twenty eighteen or nineteen year,
twenty nineteen or eighteen, I don't know. That's crazy, right,
And the things he's done since that fight, the things
I've done since that fight, we're different.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Watching them in that Gates You fight, Like, what do
you take from that? Opposed to watching them in the
Ilia fight?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Is he you know?
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Like because in the Gates You fight, he looked amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
He looked amazing. I think stylistic too, Stylistic Two Gates.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Is a good fight for him.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Gates She's a good fight for him.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I was everybody I can't bet on the fights, obviously, yeah,
but I was telling everybody I know who does bet
Max By decision. I thought he was gonna just outpoint
him out rhythm. You know, geates, she's dangerous. But I
thought Max would be a little bit crisper technically and
use his link and move.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Around, which he did. He did.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
He was up beautiful, he was up five rounds. He
didn't have to toss himself in the fire in the
last ten seconds. But that's just the kind of fighter
he is. So that's what makes me excited to fight him.
I want to fight guys like that, and from my
final one, it could be a masterpiece or a war,
something great.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
We can make something great happen on Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
DP.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
You said earlier you're feeling all this love because of
the retirement, but you're a guy that has made a
career on kind of being like underressed, Like guys like
I remember when I was in Miami and you're gonna
fight and you're an underdog, and you walked into this
meeting where we sit and I.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Was like, bro, you're an underdog and he was like, man,
I can't call it.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I can't call it.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Like how what's the difference between this, Like how do
you navigate this opposed to in so many instances where
economic Record's gonna beat this dude. Just Gates is gonna
beat this and the alphare is gonna beat this dude.
And you had just prove them wrong, prove wrong, prove
them wrong. How are you in this where it's like
all love and it's it's expected by many, then you
get through Max Howell.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I don't think it's expected by the bookies, by the
by Vegas. I think I'm a dog.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
No, I thought you were the favorite.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Maybe maybe the people might have bet you to a dog,
but you were the favorite when it opened up.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Huh yeah good. But either way, it doesn't matter. I
put in the work and.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Whatever person's won two fights over the person.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Because I'm I don't know the things he's done, the
fights he's won since then, the fights I've lost, uh
my age, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
We gotta find out. But you also just did it.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You literally just did it.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
You said, not by Vegas, I'm the dog because almost
like you, that's the role that you've always do.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You like it. I love it, you love proving you wrong.
You literally just did it. You were like you. I
was like, no, no, I'm trying to say I'm against me.
Please I need it I like it. I like it.
That's why I do my best work.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Dustin, what's the act like? So when Saturday Night ends right,
regardless of the album.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I mean, nobody wants to go out there and you
did what you're supposed to do, Like, ah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you fought a good fight.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
But we all we all knew you I did. It
would motivate me. So backing against me make it, you know,
making something that seems impossible.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I was the champion and against dudes on three occasions,
I was the underdog. I'm like, this is the crazy
I've ever but it makes you makes you want to
work harder. That's when this whole thing's done right and
your your you go back to your beautiful wife and
your daughter and your new kid. How do you look
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back on this whole thing and go, man, I can
take note now because it's like you said, it's hard
to do that when you still got a fight.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I did that with uh Lauren Murphy last weekend. She
was fighting, but she was retiring. How do you keep
it separate? And when you sit back and Lafayette on
Tuesday and you don't have to go to the gym, now,
you still will yeah, like, what do you expect life
to be?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I've done this since I was seventeen years old. I've
been fighting. I don't know what that other side is
I've been I know, I said it a hundred times
this week already, and I've only been here two days.
I've been doing this longer than I haven't been doing this.
I've been fighting longer than I haven't been fighting. Yeah,
I don't know what a normal civilian not without the
cloud of what should I do? People are getting ready
(16:29):
to fight. I know they're getting better. How far am
I away from weight? What could I be doing to learn?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Something like?
Speaker 4 (16:35):
That's always for the last I don't know how many
years in the back of my head, no matter what
I'm doing, you know, it's just a cloud that hovers
over me.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I've never had that gone. I don't know. I don't
know what it's going to feel like. I'm scared. It'll
be nice being scared.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I'm telling you right now, it's nice because there is
It's what makes you great, that ability to always keep
your eye on that prize. But when you have that
freedom to just focus on those other things that matter more,
it's the best and then you also got TV. I
think you're very good on TV and you should do more.
We want you, guys, we want you to join Chail
(17:09):
and I on our show like whenever you can, and
more stuff at the desk.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
I think you'll be amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
You got business first, Yeah, for sure, a lot of
big business. My place full Saturday, big business, big business.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Somebody asked me last one before I let you go.
They said, hey, uh, you think he's really done? And
they showed me a clip of you talking. I said,
that sounds like a man that's come to peace with
what's happening in the future. Was that hard coming to
that piece?
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Knowing?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Like or your flip flop?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Because there's a guy, Nay Jordan Burrows that wrestles, and
you know Jordan Bones, I said, GB. I said, are
you happy he goes? No, he's that competitive fire still
burns inside. Of course, you got to come to peace
with it, though. How How did you manage to come
to peace with it?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I don't know if I am yet. Yeah, I don't
know if I'm there, you know, ask me in two months.
Maybe I'll better tell you, But I don't know right now.
I'm too close to the.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Two and two.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
I'm too close, man, Yes, I'm too close to the
frame to see the full picture. And uh, we'll see
you know, man.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Dustin, it's been great to watch.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Man. Seriously, I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I'm seriously proud of you, from from that time the
where you are today.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
I couldn't have guessed it.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
From every from that first double leg, but every every.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Time I've been so locked in.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Man, I'm excited for you, guys, Dustin, for you fight Saturday,
UFC three eighteen for the BMF title, to try to
go out on top. That's a fairy tale that not
many of us get. I didn't get it, but GSP
did and so they could be. Maybe Dustin Pourier gets
it too. Make sure you got to go to ESPN.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Don't forget about my boy. Robbie Lawler he did it.
Oh yeah, Robbie did to Robby had the.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Fairy tale ending of all.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Forget about my boy.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Could Robbie have gone fifteen minutes if he had to?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Oh yeah, he could have done twenty five. Was like,
thank you you.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I saw Mike in the bag just celebrating more than
iver see guys tapping everything Dustin's doing. Go to his
comments and tell him do more TV because we think
he's good. ESPN plus pay per View, Buy minus pockets
on his way out, no streamings, no streaming, go to
DP stuff.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Until next time, guys, peace,
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