November 13, 2025 • 19 mins
Islam Makhachev IS BACK on the Daniel Cormier Check-In series ahead of his MASSIVE UFC 322 FIGHT at Madison Square Garden where he looks to become a champion in two weight classes against Jack Della Maddalena. Islam talks to DC about training with Khabib Nurmagomedov and his most recent camp in preparation for Jack Della. Makhachev reveals what he needs to do to beat JDM, and how he'll achieve double champ status. Plus, don't miss DC and Islam talk about their training sessions, share stories from AKA gym, and where Islam ranks against Khabib Nurmagomedov, Cain Velasquez, and some of the greatest fighters from the gym.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Guys, Islami kachav getting ready to challenge for the World
toweight championship in the world this weekend. What's something? How
you feeling? I gotta be honest with you, like this
is this is my name man? Daniel TV like real
deal now hey TV? Trying yes, Hey, so listen, I
gotta be honest with you, be honest. I kind of
don't like the way you promote this fight with just
(00:33):
constant shots at me, like d C the DC fed
DC fedd brother.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Just come from the media. They asked me, you're still
thinking about one eighty five? You yeah, they asked me.
I just told him if this should help me, I.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Can gain weight. But why I always d see this
DC this? Hey what about the other day? Albabaka? I
kill this guy. I kill you too, a little bit,
I kill him. Come on, come on, Will Harris edited
this video. This guy Will Harris is the worst video
(01:09):
editor of all time. He make like he make like
I stay on the ground the whole time. Now, come on,
Ris Vaughan. I was not on the ground the whole time.
These guys go crazy. Look at this, you guys like together.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Click brother, I'm happy that day. You're building a lot
of colors.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I always, always, always I lift weights. You comment, you say,
this guy work.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Hard on happy when I see you for something inside
the gym, I like really happy. Why because brother, people
look at you and thinking this is like one of
the best fighter of all the them and it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Was even when I was fighting.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
People think this when you fight, think it looks good man.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I know I look good now too, though a little bit.
I'm really good looking face. You may have better body,
but my face better than yours.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You promise me.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I cut it. I cut it this morning. I cut
a little bit. I leave though. See I still got
the beard. But it's like nice and neat.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
You know, brother, you said I will come to Dakistan.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I will come to Dagistan in the summer and I'll
keep longer.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, all right, from today to summer time.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
No chance itches, no chance guys Islam fights. Jack Dela Madalena,
how's it been being around Jack Dela Madeleena this week
and being so close to uh ultimately something that you
talked about years ago, trying to become a champion in
two weight classes.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, like happy, happy, biggest cut of the year, like
best arena and the biggest fight on my life. Very
excited and like really happy.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Are you surprised that you're as big a favorite as
you are over Jack? Dela Madeleine, because when I hear
you talk about the fight, you're very aware of how
tough a fight this is. But it seems like the
general public thinks that it's a foregone conclusion that you're
going to be world champion.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I never think about this. What who make the rankings?
Who make this?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
The numbers guy, guys that do bets, odds makers they
call them.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I don't do bets, that's right, don't You don't bet,
I don't believe, and I don't like check.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, I'm telling you right now your big favorite over
Jack Delo Matterlane. I don't gamble. Better ways to spend
your money, huh yeah? Like this like on this what
is this watch? What is this watch? Yes? What kind
of watch is this? Like target? Watch you get from Target? Wow?
(03:47):
It has no I can't tell what time is it?
Whatever time it is, I'm late? Oh man, hey the
other day?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Who are these guts?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Then? Never wait, they never laid But you were early,
which is very odd professional thirty minutes before we were
supposed to interview thirty minutes before.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I'm not surprised when you late. You always slid inside
the gym osaying.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I was never laid in training like broke all rous No,
I didn't when I when when we were, when we
were all trading together, I was always twelve o'clock practice,
eleven fifty five, eleven fifty five, I show up.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I remember you were like travel big yep, like suitcase. Yeah,
you come always like eleven and fifteen eleven.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
No, we've trained twelve, yeah, eleven fifteen. I was there.
I would show up eleven fifteen practice, start twelve o'clock.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
No eleven. You always slid man, You're always not professional,
but on your row. Yeah, I'm some of the fighters. Okay,
I am good now. I feel good, not cutting like
my chogs. Some of the guys cutting great. If you late,
they're gonna beat.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
You, beat me. You think that people can beat me?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Now two three people can beat you.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Together at the same time.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I remember one time when we almost smesh you and
the kid.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You try to jump me almost because kobeb Why you guys,
You guys follow this guy like this, he's the leader.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Tell me the story, you say, like you're big, like
you bring the crouch man, like you say, this is
my team, this is my team. You teach like ten
to fifteen people. But when we almost smash you, nobody can.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
You're crazy, nobody like step too health. You remember this?
You guys want to fight me? Why why you want
to smash me.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Because you go crazy?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Why I go crazy?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You make him injured?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
No, I didn't injure hobib I've never injured how injured?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
He said?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Oh, and I grabbed the head.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
You say, let's let's do like something easy, and you
go hard with him.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But do you remember the other day when we're in
when we were in practice, I tell him I'm finished.
I'm finished. I go on the side. What do you do?
Throw me down? Jump on me?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Ago, Yes, but it's the same like because he said, okay,
might work to have good So wait, why why why
when I do it, I try to hurt how people?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
When he do it, he just make me work. You see,
now I understand bias. You know everybody saying, oh he biased?
Is lom Now I understand bias.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Now you're both retired. Who cares if you're injured? Nobody
at that time he's still fighting.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Islam. Jack is has improved greatly in his wrestling. He's
working with Craig Jones Alexander Volkanowski. Alexander Volkanowski, who had
success defending takedowns, is also helping him prepare. What do
you make of that? Seeing all those guys.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Let's make this Craig one fight?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And everybody asked you what?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Like he helped him to improve something, improve something. It's
not working like this when you bring someone for one
came or for two games. I I just give you
a good example. I tell you yesterday what about hamsad fighting?
I think deplicity, bring many coaches, many partners, but it's
(07:16):
not help. It's not working like this.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
He was waiting. Why was he waiting so long to try?
Did he ever sprawl? Du plus? Did he ever sprawl?
I I don't think he ever.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Sprawled upset, but I don't think he even watched the
wrestling match in the TV.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You know he didn't sprawl one time. There was one
thing you had to do in that fight, and that
was defend wrestling. He he didn't sprawl. So do you
think Jack will be able to wrestle or be able
to stop takedowns or do you anticipate that you're gonna
be able to control one time?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Second time? But you know I will try again again again,
hard to start up.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Are you comfortable? Are you comfortable standing and striking with
Jack Dela Madelane if you need to? For twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Russell against Bucksher, I will strike. I can strike as anyone.
You know, I strikers Dustin, Oh fight almost I strikers Vogue.
You know I'm not the restler. I'm the best.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You know when you talk about these guys, there's some
things when we talk, you always say crazy stuff. But
there's a clip where you were talking about Dustin Poitier's
black belt. There's just so many clips to you like
talking about these guys when you fight them, or is
it what's expected? Because Dustin was able to defend the takedowns.
Dustin was able to stay upright and you have to
(08:43):
beat him on the feet. But are you surprised at
times when you get in there with someone when you
have an idea that they're not going to be as
good at something, Because like I said, Dustin's a black belt.
He was able to defend himself up unto the fifth round.
And then you did to get a takedown. You did
exactly what we teach you.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I'm not that's the one that takedown will teach you.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
With the leg, that's the one we teach you.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And us don't have this technique, man, Yes, single leg,
doubleck and the pressure.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
The best wrestling school, the best wrestling country in the
world right now, and you're telling me we don't have something.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Single leg, double leg and pressure. That's it.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
So so again, are you surprised?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, like surprise. Yeah, honestly I'm surprised. He defends wrestling
very well, but I am not black built, and I
still finish him in the last round. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Would you be surprised if Jack is able to defend
every takedown.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Every takedown? Yeah, No, it's not possible. Every take it down.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
It's not possible.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Maybe someone someone that you can defend, but not able
to take it down.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
You think you could take anybody down?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
If I take you down.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You never took me down.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I swear I have video.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Man, you want me to show you the picture of
me and you in whose hand is Ramero holding up
after the after the match?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Now we're talking about picture takedown, not about picture. I
have video when I take you down.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You know you've been promising this video for three fights
now and I've never seen the video. I don't show Yeah,
you need to show me the video. If you win
this fight this weekend. What would that mean to you
in legacy? Because I think earlier in the week I
heard you in an interview and you spoke about legacy.
I don't know that I've ever heard you say legacy before.
What would this mean to you and your legacy? To
become a champion in two divisions?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Man, I take the title. I have the title, I
have the money. Now it's now, it's the legacy. Now
the second build. People fight for the second built, just
for the legacy. You know most of them, and like you,
you take the second build and make sense Square Garden.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
No Vegas. But I defended it in Madison Square Garden.
Better what to becomes double champion? I fought Madison Square
Garden too, Islam, but not for the second I had
two belts when I came into Madison Square Garden and
left with two belts.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
See you see when I close, You understand I close.
To beat your old records.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Are you'd have to have the second belt still Islam and.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
You have more in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yes, there's a lot, you can list them all. You
know what I know, you know what I know. You
asked me.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
You know, I need to do some things to look
and I want to beat you know mine? Yeah, yeah,
so you need to so and I will be one
of the best fighter from AKA.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You already one of the best of all time from AKA.
You know right now, you know, right now in a
Ka history, it's me Habib only two over you. Now
you got to you passed Luke and Kane, Noel Kine.
Still you're number four. You're still number four because Kate
came to a little bit better than you in his career.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
A little bit k s I'm me.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Kabeb never lost, so I kind of put him number
one because he's undefeated. It's hard not to lose. You lost.
Think about this like the one time to get you
know what I'm saying, You could never lose, like you
were better than the guy. But you make mistake. Kadeep
never lost. It's impossible to like never lose, right, So yes,
I will put him. He's very good. Twenty nine fights,
(12:25):
no losses. Even sometimes you fall down like somebody kitch
you you know you can lose a fight.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Even still right now, he never lose beat you inside that.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
You Hey, he's super, he's he's insanely big. And you
know how you always say but like you say, but
it's the thing, like you say, Hey, you need to
do this every day, so you get Skinnybbin's skinny. He
grapple every day every week. Kabeb is not skinny. Bro
kuld be weighed so heavy right now and big.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
No, he's big but not fit.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I don't know if you've seen his legs, his ankle, fat,
his legging.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
This you see this part, it's very fat.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
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(14:53):
how do you expect this fight to go?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I hope it's gonna be easy, but I don't think
it's gonna be easy. He's a good you know, he's
a good I watch his many fights. Uh, some of
the striker if you take him down, they're like uncomfortable there.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
But I see he scrambles. He scrambles really well. Whenever
the fighters.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Girls, you know how to move, what you what to do?
You know he's good everywhere. Uh, I hope he's gonna
be easy, but ready for anything.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Did you was he bigger than you thought whenever you
stood in front of him.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
No, he's look like the same to all. But maybe
inside the cage he's gonna be a couple of cag
bigger than me. But still if the fight there, you
come to my room and give me some food.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Same, I'm gonna have the traditional dagger stand food.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I remember last time, after the fight, you give me
the what do you give me? What?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Oh? Yeah, I give you like this now. It was
the like biscuit with the cheese and you he doesn't.
It's very good. Huh. That's in Los Angeles. It's a
restaurant only Los Angeles Portos. It's very good. I'll bring you.
I'll bring you something, but you have to win. If
you don't win, you get no, you get no, you
(16:15):
get no snatches. No, no, you can go back to
the daggers Dan and don't get fed. You know how
we play out there. Last thing. You guys all come
from the same place, extremely close. All these goals that
are set out in front of you, to achieve them,
to accomplish them. Did you ever imagine that dish would
(16:36):
be your career? Like thinking back to that kid that
walked into AKA when you and islam My Metalf had
two different colored shirts. Remember is Islam red Islam black
because we great Islam gray Islam red. It's like, could
you ever imagine that your career would be this? Like
the number one pound fighter in the world.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I just came and look at the whoa, you know,
you and your lasse Luke, and I thinking my picture
never gonna never gonna be this? Well, what now I
can move you old guys, You guys have finish.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
You've done so much. You might not have thought that
you could be up there, but I'm telling you, the
first day you walked into the gym, it was very
evident that you would be able to.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You were thinking, you know, I have this success and now,
thanks God, I have everything right now, I have belt,
you know, and you guys also, Yeahka helped me a
lot by training like so hot thing KA always the
bike room. I still remember this room. I don't like
this room, but still remember.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
More than anything. Somebody asked me yesterday, like what do
you miss about fighting? I don't miss fighting, I don't
miss walking now. I don't miss any of that. I
just missed the opportunity to spend all that time that
we had in the gym where you're you train and
you talk and you hang out. The camaraderie. That's what
I missed the most.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Let's make one camp in Aka. Not like Craig your
heart training just for to lose weight. You know with me,
you old.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Now, so you admit now maybe needn lose a few
pounds to this guy is a fat shamer man islam Chev.
We will bring Luke you thought you see Luke Instagram.
This knocks out of his mind?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Which all would we have to bring him back? Fix
his mind?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
His mind is broken. This this not what happened to
his mind.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I don't know what this is. The the gloves he fights.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
There, No, he fought without the gloves and he fought
Darren till remember Darren Till knocked him out. This is
crazy knockout, very very bad knockout.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Louke, Why why are you when he was with you
and that kid?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
You have to teach him to box.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
To du like to how to live to don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I'm a man, I'm a man. He's a man. You're
a man. We can't teach one man how to live
his life. Man, Why don't you call him and tell him?
Why don't you call Luke and say, hey, Luke, you
need to like maybe stop like going crazy all the
time to come to two three years. No, keep Luke
and Dagger's Dan forever.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Luke.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
We're gonna help you. My brother. It's my market. Chill
fights for the UFC walter Weight Championship this weekend, looking
to become a champion and two weight classes. One of
the best fighters of all time and one of the
best fighters pound for pound of all time. Sitting to
my left right here. Thanks for checking it again, my brother.
I appreciate you. Hey, he's a wrestled guy, just wasn't
practice the other day. Yeah, until next time. Like subscribing
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to tell you friends about my YouTube channel.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Peace
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Guys, Islami kachav getting ready to challenge for the World
toweight championship in the world this weekend. What's something? How
you feeling? I gotta be honest with you, like this
is this is my name man? Daniel TV like real
deal now hey TV? Trying yes, Hey, so listen, I
gotta be honest with you, be honest. I kind of
don't like the way you promote this fight with just
(00:33):
constant shots at me, like d C the DC fed
DC fedd brother.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Just come from the media. They asked me, you're still
thinking about one eighty five? You yeah, they asked me.
I just told him if this should help me, I.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Can gain weight. But why I always d see this
DC this? Hey what about the other day? Albabaka? I
kill this guy. I kill you too, a little bit,
I kill him. Come on, come on, Will Harris edited
this video. This guy Will Harris is the worst video
(01:09):
editor of all time. He make like he make like
I stay on the ground the whole time. Now, come on,
Ris Vaughan. I was not on the ground the whole time.
These guys go crazy. Look at this, you guys like together.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Click brother, I'm happy that day. You're building a lot
of colors.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I always, always, always I lift weights. You comment, you say,
this guy work.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Hard on happy when I see you for something inside
the gym, I like really happy. Why because brother, people
look at you and thinking this is like one of
the best fighter of all the them and it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Was even when I was fighting.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
People think this when you fight, think it looks good man.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I know I look good now too, though a little bit.
I'm really good looking face. You may have better body,
but my face better than yours.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You promise me.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I cut it. I cut it this morning. I cut
a little bit. I leave though. See I still got
the beard. But it's like nice and neat.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
You know, brother, you said I will come to Dakistan.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I will come to Dagistan in the summer and I'll
keep longer.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, all right, from today to summer time.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
No chance itches, no chance guys Islam fights. Jack Dela Madalena,
how's it been being around Jack Dela Madeleena this week
and being so close to uh ultimately something that you
talked about years ago, trying to become a champion in
two weight classes.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, like happy, happy, biggest cut of the year, like
best arena and the biggest fight on my life. Very
excited and like really happy.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Are you surprised that you're as big a favorite as
you are over Jack? Dela Madeleine, because when I hear
you talk about the fight, you're very aware of how
tough a fight this is. But it seems like the
general public thinks that it's a foregone conclusion that you're
going to be world champion.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I never think about this. What who make the rankings?
Who make this?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
The numbers guy, guys that do bets, odds makers they
call them.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I don't do bets, that's right, don't You don't bet,
I don't believe, and I don't like check.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, I'm telling you right now your big favorite over
Jack Delo Matterlane. I don't gamble. Better ways to spend
your money, huh yeah? Like this like on this what
is this watch? What is this watch? Yes? What kind
of watch is this? Like target? Watch you get from Target? Wow?
(03:47):
It has no I can't tell what time is it?
Whatever time it is, I'm late? Oh man, hey the
other day?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Who are these guts?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Then? Never wait, they never laid But you were early,
which is very odd professional thirty minutes before we were
supposed to interview thirty minutes before.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I'm not surprised when you late. You always slid inside
the gym osaying.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I was never laid in training like broke all rous No,
I didn't when I when when we were, when we
were all trading together, I was always twelve o'clock practice,
eleven fifty five, eleven fifty five, I show up.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I remember you were like travel big yep, like suitcase. Yeah,
you come always like eleven and fifteen eleven.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
No, we've trained twelve, yeah, eleven fifteen. I was there.
I would show up eleven fifteen practice, start twelve o'clock.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
No eleven. You always slid man, You're always not professional,
but on your row. Yeah, I'm some of the fighters. Okay,
I am good now. I feel good, not cutting like
my chogs. Some of the guys cutting great. If you late,
they're gonna beat.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
You, beat me. You think that people can beat me?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Now two three people can beat you.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Together at the same time.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I remember one time when we almost smesh you and
the kid.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You try to jump me almost because kobeb Why you guys,
You guys follow this guy like this, he's the leader.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Tell me the story, you say, like you're big, like
you bring the crouch man, like you say, this is
my team, this is my team. You teach like ten
to fifteen people. But when we almost smash you, nobody can.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
You're crazy, nobody like step too health. You remember this?
You guys want to fight me? Why why you want
to smash me.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Because you go crazy?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Why I go crazy?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You make him injured?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
No, I didn't injure hobib I've never injured how injured?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
He said?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Oh, and I grabbed the head.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
You say, let's let's do like something easy, and you
go hard with him.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But do you remember the other day when we're in
when we were in practice, I tell him I'm finished.
I'm finished. I go on the side. What do you do?
Throw me down? Jump on me?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Ago, Yes, but it's the same like because he said, okay,
might work to have good So wait, why why why
when I do it, I try to hurt how people?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
When he do it, he just make me work. You see,
now I understand bias. You know everybody saying, oh he biased?
Is lom Now I understand bias.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Now you're both retired. Who cares if you're injured? Nobody
at that time he's still fighting.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Islam. Jack is has improved greatly in his wrestling. He's
working with Craig Jones Alexander Volkanowski. Alexander Volkanowski, who had
success defending takedowns, is also helping him prepare. What do
you make of that? Seeing all those guys.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Let's make this Craig one fight?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And everybody asked you what?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Like he helped him to improve something, improve something. It's
not working like this when you bring someone for one
came or for two games. I I just give you
a good example. I tell you yesterday what about hamsad fighting?
I think deplicity, bring many coaches, many partners, but it's
(07:16):
not help. It's not working like this.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
He was waiting. Why was he waiting so long to try?
Did he ever sprawl? Du plus? Did he ever sprawl?
I I don't think he ever.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Sprawled upset, but I don't think he even watched the
wrestling match in the TV.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You know he didn't sprawl one time. There was one
thing you had to do in that fight, and that
was defend wrestling. He he didn't sprawl. So do you
think Jack will be able to wrestle or be able
to stop takedowns or do you anticipate that you're gonna
be able to control one time?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Second time? But you know I will try again again again,
hard to start up.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Are you comfortable? Are you comfortable standing and striking with
Jack Dela Madelane if you need to? For twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Russell against Bucksher, I will strike. I can strike as anyone.
You know, I strikers Dustin, Oh fight almost I strikers Vogue.
You know I'm not the restler. I'm the best.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You know when you talk about these guys, there's some
things when we talk, you always say crazy stuff. But
there's a clip where you were talking about Dustin Poitier's
black belt. There's just so many clips to you like
talking about these guys when you fight them, or is
it what's expected? Because Dustin was able to defend the takedowns.
Dustin was able to stay upright and you have to
(08:43):
beat him on the feet. But are you surprised at
times when you get in there with someone when you
have an idea that they're not going to be as
good at something, Because like I said, Dustin's a black belt.
He was able to defend himself up unto the fifth round.
And then you did to get a takedown. You did
exactly what we teach you.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I'm not that's the one that takedown will teach you.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
With the leg, that's the one we teach you.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And us don't have this technique, man, Yes, single leg,
doubleck and the pressure.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
The best wrestling school, the best wrestling country in the
world right now, and you're telling me we don't have something.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Single leg, double leg and pressure. That's it.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
So so again, are you surprised?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, like surprise. Yeah, honestly I'm surprised. He defends wrestling
very well, but I am not black built, and I
still finish him in the last round. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Would you be surprised if Jack is able to defend
every takedown.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Every takedown? Yeah, No, it's not possible. Every take it down.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
It's not possible.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Maybe someone someone that you can defend, but not able
to take it down.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
You think you could take anybody down?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
If I take you down.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You never took me down.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I swear I have video.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Man, you want me to show you the picture of
me and you in whose hand is Ramero holding up
after the after the match?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Now we're talking about picture takedown, not about picture. I
have video when I take you down.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You know you've been promising this video for three fights
now and I've never seen the video. I don't show Yeah,
you need to show me the video. If you win
this fight this weekend. What would that mean to you
in legacy? Because I think earlier in the week I
heard you in an interview and you spoke about legacy.
I don't know that I've ever heard you say legacy before.
What would this mean to you and your legacy? To
become a champion in two divisions?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Man, I take the title. I have the title, I
have the money. Now it's now, it's the legacy. Now
the second build. People fight for the second built, just
for the legacy. You know most of them, and like you,
you take the second build and make sense Square Garden.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
No Vegas. But I defended it in Madison Square Garden.
Better what to becomes double champion? I fought Madison Square
Garden too, Islam, but not for the second I had
two belts when I came into Madison Square Garden and
left with two belts.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
See you see when I close, You understand I close.
To beat your old records.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Are you'd have to have the second belt still Islam and.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
You have more in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yes, there's a lot, you can list them all. You
know what I know, you know what I know. You
asked me.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
You know, I need to do some things to look
and I want to beat you know mine? Yeah, yeah,
so you need to so and I will be one
of the best fighter from AKA.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You already one of the best of all time from AKA.
You know right now, you know, right now in a
Ka history, it's me Habib only two over you. Now
you got to you passed Luke and Kane, Noel Kine.
Still you're number four. You're still number four because Kate
came to a little bit better than you in his career.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
A little bit k s I'm me.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Kabeb never lost, so I kind of put him number
one because he's undefeated. It's hard not to lose. You lost.
Think about this like the one time to get you
know what I'm saying, You could never lose, like you
were better than the guy. But you make mistake. Kadeep
never lost. It's impossible to like never lose, right, So yes,
I will put him. He's very good. Twenty nine fights,
(12:25):
no losses. Even sometimes you fall down like somebody kitch
you you know you can lose a fight.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Even still right now, he never lose beat you inside that.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
You Hey, he's super, he's he's insanely big. And you
know how you always say but like you say, but
it's the thing, like you say, Hey, you need to
do this every day, so you get Skinnybbin's skinny. He
grapple every day every week. Kabeb is not skinny. Bro
kuld be weighed so heavy right now and big.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
No, he's big but not fit.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I don't know if you've seen his legs, his ankle, fat,
his legging.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
This you see this part, it's very fat.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
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(14:53):
how do you expect this fight to go?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I hope it's gonna be easy, but I don't think
it's gonna be easy. He's a good you know, he's
a good I watch his many fights. Uh, some of
the striker if you take him down, they're like uncomfortable there.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
But I see he scrambles. He scrambles really well. Whenever
the fighters.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Girls, you know how to move, what you what to do?
You know he's good everywhere. Uh, I hope he's gonna
be easy, but ready for anything.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Did you was he bigger than you thought whenever you
stood in front of him.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
No, he's look like the same to all. But maybe
inside the cage he's gonna be a couple of cag
bigger than me. But still if the fight there, you
come to my room and give me some food.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Same, I'm gonna have the traditional dagger stand food.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I remember last time, after the fight, you give me
the what do you give me? What?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Oh? Yeah, I give you like this now. It was
the like biscuit with the cheese and you he doesn't.
It's very good. Huh. That's in Los Angeles. It's a
restaurant only Los Angeles Portos. It's very good. I'll bring you.
I'll bring you something, but you have to win. If
you don't win, you get no, you get no, you
(16:15):
get no snatches. No, no, you can go back to
the daggers Dan and don't get fed. You know how
we play out there. Last thing. You guys all come
from the same place, extremely close. All these goals that
are set out in front of you, to achieve them,
to accomplish them. Did you ever imagine that dish would
(16:36):
be your career? Like thinking back to that kid that
walked into AKA when you and islam My Metalf had
two different colored shirts. Remember is Islam red Islam black
because we great Islam gray Islam red. It's like, could
you ever imagine that your career would be this? Like
the number one pound fighter in the world.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I just came and look at the whoa, you know,
you and your lasse Luke, and I thinking my picture
never gonna never gonna be this? Well, what now I
can move you old guys, You guys have finish.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
You've done so much. You might not have thought that
you could be up there, but I'm telling you, the
first day you walked into the gym, it was very
evident that you would be able to.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You were thinking, you know, I have this success and now,
thanks God, I have everything right now, I have belt,
you know, and you guys also, Yeahka helped me a
lot by training like so hot thing KA always the
bike room. I still remember this room. I don't like
this room, but still remember.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
More than anything. Somebody asked me yesterday, like what do
you miss about fighting? I don't miss fighting, I don't
miss walking now. I don't miss any of that. I
just missed the opportunity to spend all that time that
we had in the gym where you're you train and
you talk and you hang out. The camaraderie. That's what
I missed the most.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Let's make one camp in Aka. Not like Craig your
heart training just for to lose weight. You know with me,
you old.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Now, so you admit now maybe needn lose a few
pounds to this guy is a fat shamer man islam Chev.
We will bring Luke you thought you see Luke Instagram.
This knocks out of his mind?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Which all would we have to bring him back? Fix
his mind?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
His mind is broken. This this not what happened to
his mind.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I don't know what this is. The the gloves he fights.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
There, No, he fought without the gloves and he fought
Darren till remember Darren Till knocked him out. This is
crazy knockout, very very bad knockout.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Louke, Why why are you when he was with you
and that kid?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
You have to teach him to box.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
To du like to how to live to don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I'm a man, I'm a man. He's a man. You're
a man. We can't teach one man how to live
his life. Man, Why don't you call him and tell him?
Why don't you call Luke and say, hey, Luke, you
need to like maybe stop like going crazy all the
time to come to two three years. No, keep Luke
and Dagger's Dan forever.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Luke.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
We're gonna help you. My brother. It's my market. Chill
fights for the UFC walter Weight Championship this weekend, looking
to become a champion and two weight classes. One of
the best fighters of all time and one of the
best fighters pound for pound of all time. Sitting to
my left right here. Thanks for checking it again, my brother.
I appreciate you. Hey, he's a wrestled guy, just wasn't
practice the other day. Yeah, until next time. Like subscribing
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to tell you friends about my YouTube channel.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
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