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What Up? Welcome in? This is the Herd. Wherever you
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(01:00):
If you know my boy Jay Stu, who's been doing
this even longer than me.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Of course, Ryan's on the ones and twos. Welcome in.
Happy Holidays to you. It's okay.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I apologize to you, Jason, but now is the time
you can say Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
It is not too early.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I would have been a little hesitant about Christmas lights
before today, but now it's okay to put the Christmas
lights up. You want to go, Clark Griswold, you go, Clark, Chriswold.
I think Jase dou has a holiday movie tie for
us in Best for the Last that's at the at
the end of the hour. And we got college football
all the picks you need for this weekend's sports that
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haven't yet taken place. But there's an NFL game today, Like, really, yeah,
Black Friday? I think, Jase two, this is the second
year a Black Friday. Isn't this it the third or second?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
No, see it's the third, right, twenty twenty three the
Dolphins ran over the Jets and then there was a
game watch here. I forget between two. I just looked
this up for the show, so I shouldn't be wrong,
but I'll double check.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
No, you're right.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, I mean listen, if you looked it up, then
you're right. I'm going more on feelings, are going more
on facts.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
But the evolution of this Black Friday thing, like I
think it was a thing for a while where the
NFL would like give courtesy to these other sports and
they're like, we'll give Black Friday to college football. We'll
give Christmas to the NBA. And now it's just like,
screw it, We're just gonna take it all.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Doug.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yes, yes, they want Christmas. They got Christmas, they got Thanksgiving,
and they'll take Black Friday. And you know, if college
foball doesn't figure it out, they'll they'll take January first
as well as janiu first, not the day that it
used to be. So it's really fascinating what has happened
with the dominance and takeover of the Nashville Lague. I've
said this time and again that what I truly believe,
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truly believe is that Roger Goodell's the best that's ever
He's ever done it. And there are so many people
who want to take him down for some of the
things that they've done, some of the missteps that they've had,
you know, the Ray Rice thing, you know, the social
injustice thing during the summer of protest and all those things.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
But to me, the real deal, Okay, the real deal.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Is is they're on every network and now most streaming platforms.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
They've taken over the holidays. They're just fine.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
They're expanding the International Games. Why because all of it
makes money. His job, and you pointed this out, and
you're right to point out the quality of play is
not nearly consistently well. It should be considering what the
view of how good the NFL is for people to
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listen to The Doug Gottlieb Show. It's a daily show
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you get podcast only hour. And Jason, who among other
things a huge music fan music buff, likens it to
the Zuopa album right by you two.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Remember you two and they're kind of in their chronology
their discography, you know, Joshua Tree iconic, and then they
remade themselves and made Oktung Baby and that was hugely
commercially successful as well, two different sounding albums. And then
my theory with Zuropa that it was such a piece
(04:33):
of crap and it's horrible to listen to. It was
you two and their management saying, we are so popular
right now, Let's see if we just put out crap music,
how many people will buy it? I think the NFL
has been in that phase for the last two or
three years. How how much will the public put up
with our product? If we don't put into any improvement
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because it's gotten worse and worse. And you could blame
the collective bar and a lack of practicing and training.
You could blame the quarterbacks going down, but we are
in zuopa. I think it's the NFL's way of being like,
just what could we put out there when people will
actually say, maybe I won't watch this one.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, And my point would be, that's not his job, right.
His job is not to worry about the quality of play.
His job is to make the owner's money. And he
has done his job incredibly well, incredibly well. And the
interesting part about it is if you look back fifteen
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years ago. Okay, I remember I was at ESPN and
they used to talk about, well, if you're gonna go
and accept the money for college college sports but pro
sports as well, from a lesser brand than ESPN, you
may get more money, but you're.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Basic basically going to disappear.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You know, it happened to the Mountain West, the Mountain
West Conference, you go back to the early two thousands,
and they moved their conference Torment to Denver, and they
moved all their sports to the Altitude Network, and nobody
watched nobody.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Could find it.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Right, the NFL is so powerful that they move Thursday
Night to Amazon, and we all wondered, and I think
it was like twelve or thirteen million people watched the
first one. That hasn't been a thing. Now they're on Netflix.
Everybody seems to have Netflix, right, I mean, look at
the Tyson fight and how many people watch that? How
many people watch the Black Friday or the Christmas game?
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Christmas games are on Netflix. They have violated some of
the core tenants of old school media, which is, you know,
the more you spread yourself out, you water down, you
water down the viewership numbers of the product. If you're
on every network. That's not what they've done. The viewership
is still as higher, better than ever. And they put
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themselves on streaming, which should be a death nel to
those games.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And it's not.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
To Jason's point. You could put any NFL game on
and the degenerate gambler in our country and there's a
lot of them, or the degenerate fantasy football player in
our country, which is kind of a gambler as well,
and there's a lot of them. They're gonna find it.
And whether that was part of the plan or that's
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the plan that he's adapted.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
It's working. It's working.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Speaking of plans, I don't know what the Cowboys true
plan was like. Were they really trying to be good
or were they just trying to get through this year
and then fix the defense which has been broken for
the past two years. But at some point we can go, hey,
the Cowboys don't suck. They're not the best team in
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the NFL. I don't think they're winning a super Bowl.
I don't think they're getting close to a super Bowl.
But if were, if we're honest with ourselves, and it's
one of the things that you're supposed to be the
older you get, but in sports, fans just aren't honest
with themselves, especially the haters of the Cowboys. Like I
think over the last year, you can no longer hate
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on the three most hate able teams and maybe even
throw the Yankees in there.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Although the Yankees, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
If they were a disaster, but they were a disappointment
not getting too another World Series. But we used to
make fun of Notre Dame football because the hype was
way louder than the actual product in the field. I
don't think that's the case anymore Duke. Last year, it
was an upset when they lost and they you know,
(08:50):
a game that they probably rightfully should have won in
the in the final four, but it's not met with
the same you know, Duke is hyped celebration about Duke
losing that it used to be and the.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Cowboys, who we've all had.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
We've all taken our pound of flush with the Cowboys,
all taken our.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Pound of flush.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And again it's more about Cowboys fans and about Jerry
than it is Cowboys players. But when you lump them
all in the one, it was the constant hype machine
of us in the media talking about the Cowboys because
people like talking about the Cowboys, and then every year
the fans thinking this was the year, and Jerry feeding
(09:33):
into it. Now, Jerry didn't say they were going to
be great this year, but he did think they were
on the right path. And I don't think after yesterday
you could argue that Jerry Jones was right, that Jerry
Jones was right. You know, they've beaten two the last
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the two Super Bowl teams, and you can say, hey,
they beat the Eagles. They were competitive with the Eagles
in Game one. Shouldn't be surprised they beat them the
second time round. And no, the Chiefs are not what
they used to be, but the Chiefs needed to win
that game, and the Cowboys just beat them. They're six'
five and. One they do have to go To detroit On,
thursday but after that they have a schedule that's. Manageable
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they can get into the. Playoffs so you can hate
them The cowboys all you, want BUT i think that's
a little bit of dated. News this is the team that's,
overachieving a quarterback who's playing to the level that he's,
compensated And Jerry jones and his staff have done a
good job of kind of retrofitting this team based upon
(10:43):
what they. Have it's time to eat our words on The.
Cowboys I'm Doug golli pieling For colin coming up in The.
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M Jared, Huge, huge, huge Huge Huge college Football.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Weekend they're all, big but now you get to the rivalry,
games and you, know now we're playing to get in the,
playoffs and you know every game becomes. Paramount let's kind
of get after it as right, now Ole miss leads
twenty one to. Thirteen just for, giggles who did you
have in this game against the?
Speaker 7 (13:44):
NUMBER i Like lacy over rush yards in this. Game
that was the one thing that really stood out to.
ME i, MEAN i think the spread was. RIGHT i
feel Like Ole miss should have been a score plus
favorite the landline and right around seven and a half
that if it looks like that's kind of where we're
trending right. Now but the big mismatch in this game
for me Was Mississippi state's rush, defense which has been
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given up the punty yards they let him on hard
to go off for three, hundred And lazy's been a work.
COORSE i, mean he's not gonna win The walk The
Donk Walker award because Obviously Jeremiah love is the best
back in the, country but him And hardy And, lazy
those three guys have been the best three in college
football this. Year AND i don't Think lazy gets talked about.
Enough so his prop number one twenty and a half
was pretty. APPETIZING i think he just went over one
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hundred on a nice little.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Run, yeah let's let's get some of the picks from the, Weekend,
okay tonight or this, afternoon depending on where you.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Are georgia takes On Georgia.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Tech huge game for, both, Right Georgia tech sitting there, going,
hey we're on the outside looking. In but to Be,
georgia things change for The. Dogs can't lose the second,
one and, then of course you know with THE Sec championship,
games you can't lose three. Games george is a fifteen
and a half point, DOG a fifteen a half point
paper excuse?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Me total pretty? High fifteen nine and a. Half who
do you?
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Like, yeah we've seen some money On georgia this. Week
last year's game was absolutely. Bananas eight, overtimes And georgia
still has an outside shot to make THE Sec championship
if they get AN a AND m or A bama.
Low SO i definitely Think george's got a lot to play. For,
Obviously Georgia tech needs a ton of help to make
THE Acc this game still has playoff. IMPLICATIONS i think
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more For georgia Than Georgia. Tech you mentioned the high.
Total that's Because Georgia tech's defense has really struggled in
the last few weeks to make. STOPS i have a
lot of concerns about them getting off the field in this.
Game this has been an underlying issue all, season but
when you're, winning it's not as. Important but over the
last three they're allowing forty one points per, game seven
and a half yards per place in. Ten it's actually
the second worst mark in The power For so we
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talk About georgia law from the defensive. Side we Love
Kirby smart and his defensive. STEAMING i think they might GET.
Cj allen back in this Game starmint a. Linebacker BUT
i actually think the advantage For georgia and why this
number has criacked towards The, dogs is the fact That
georgia's offense should be on the front foot for most
of this. GAME i Think Nate, fraser the running back For,
georgia is going to be fan has to hear actually
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the second high rushing grade in THE sec behind him On,
Hardy so he is another back that you need to
take very. Seriously AND i don't know If i'm willing
to lay all these points on the, Road, doug BUT
i do feel Like georgia is going to win this.
Game maybe a team total over For georgia to get
across that finish line and maybe who, Knows Georgia tech
gets through the back door laid on the SPREAD a.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
AND m And texas and the renewed. Rivalry right now
in THE.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
SEC a And m's a two and a half point
favorite on the road IN, dkr the totals fifty two
and a.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
Half, yeah we haven't seen a ton of movement off
the key number three, here it does look LIKE a
And m's going to close a slight road. FAVORITE i
think that makes. SENSE i do Think texas is playing
better over the last few. Weeks Archie manning's red, hot and, really,
HONESTLY i think we have to give him his. Credit
we were obviously down on him to start the, year
AND i think he showed some rust in the fact
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that he hasn't had a ton of. Experience but Since week,
nine he's got the sixth highest passing grade Per Pro Football.
Focus he's been really good from a clean. Pocket but
the problem Is texas hasn't had a clean pockets this
year because their offensive line has been. Terrible they can't
run the. BALL i THINK a And m's defense is
going to get Into texas a little bit. HERE i
really like The TEXAS a AND m middle Linebacker tory And.
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York he doesn't have the prototypical size as AN nfl,
linebacker but he is a cerebral. Freak he just smells
everything at the linebacker. Level so you, Know sark like'sill
run those RPOs and the quick. STREAMS i THINK a
AND m is gonna sniff that stuff. Out the other
side of this ball is. Intriguing Marcel reid's been a
little shaky in the straight dropback, game but in play
action and AN, rpo he's been very efficient this. Year
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texas is good against the run on, defense but they're
not as great against the, pass and they're actually giving
up a ton OF yep yards in the, secondary SO
i could see some of that quick Game concepcion And
crab and even Ashing Bethel roman FOR a AND m
has been very good this. Year reid has been, Efficient
he's been on. TIME i think he's taking a step
forward with his passing. Game how ABOUT I Marcell reids
passing yards OVERPROP i thow it lined in like the
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low two. TWENTIES i Think reid's gonna have a good
game on. OFFENSE i think it's gonna be a fun
one down. There In austin.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Tonight, okay let's get to tomorrow's. Games let's start with
a big. Game it's the early, Game Ohio state taking On.
Michigan it was, ten now it's nine and a. Half
the totals forty three and a. Half Ohio state big
favorite in The Big.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
House, yeah you gotta Imagine Ohio state's gonna get across
the finish line in this, one, RIGHT i mean you would,
THINK i think maybe the only program in the country
that can win a national championship like they did last,
Year doug and still feel like the season wasn't a
success because they lost To michigan for a fourth consecutive,
HERE i honestly don't know IF i can say that
about any other program in the. Country the wild thing
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here is If michigan somehow wins this game and Either
oregon Or indiana, lows we'll Get Michigan Ohio state again
next week in The Big ten title. Game, NOW i
don't think that's gonna play out that. WAY i do
Think Ohio state is a little more physical this, year
and that's the one thing That i'm very intag. With last,
year we knew their passing offense was, great they were
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great in the run, game BUT i think they're a
little bit more balanced. LATELY i really like the emergence
of this freshman Back Bo. Jackson they've Got James peeples AND.
Cj donaldson in short Yarded so while everyone's going to
be paying attention To saying And smith And tate And
ennis and all these great, RECEIVERS i actually Think Ohio
state might have an opportunity to run it a little
bit better than they have in prior. Games remember this
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game in the past has Been michigan more physical at
the line of. Scrimmage that's why they've won the. Game
AND i Think Ohio state has to be more. Balanced
they have to focus on the. RUN i actually Think
Bo jackson is primed for a big. Game on the other,
side Obviously michigan wants to run. It you got to
Keep bryce under one out of those obvious passing. Situations
michigan has one of the highest run rates in college
football this. Year their offensive line has been. FANTASTIC i
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like The Ohio state. Defense they're going to stack the.
Box they're going to try to Make underwood throw it
down the field to beat. Them that could mean some
one on one For andrew marsh freshman receiver For michigan's
come on really strong, lately had a good game last.
Week Devin donovan McAuley's also been really, good good in
the number two. Spot defense will be the team of this, game, Though, Curry,
Jackson Styles. REEVES i Think Ohio states this year the
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more physical, team AND i think that's why they win
and probably cover the.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
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going through the picks of the. Weekend Vandy. Tennessee who
would have thought this is a huge game And tennessee
only a two and a half point favorite at home
and the total sixty five and a, half sixty five
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and a.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Half who do you?
Speaker 7 (20:36):
Like, yeah this is a. Shootout this one feels like
it's going to be back and. Forth the scenarios are
actually very. Interesting If vandy, WINS i don't think they're
straight up in with a. WIN i think they might
need a little bit of help this, year and that's
just based off of how some of the other grades
are in the. Rankings but once we get to next,
WEEK i think we'll have a much clearer picture of
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Where vandy. Fix but they need to win this. Game
tennessee actually hasn't beaten a team of the winning record all,
Year SO i Think bandy goes Into naxonville and wins this.
GAME i do think it's a high scoring. Game pavi And,
aguilar the two, quarterbacks are two of the three highest
graded quarterbacks in THE fbs this, year the highest graded
one Of julian Saying so you could argue That aguilar
And pavia have had as good of right on par
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with Where Julian sayan's been this. Year aguilar is a
very easy quarterback to. Dissect he's been great in clean.
Pockets they've got a ton of weapons on the outside.
Right tennessee loves to run that wide choice. Offense that
means those receivers are going to be wide outside the
numbers and they will basically make the decision themselves based
on how the defense is, playing whether or not they
run a comeback route or run the vertical down the.
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Field that's why it's called the wide. CHOICE i Think
bandy's passing defense is a little bit compromise. Here we've
seen them give up some big. PLAYS i could See
aguilar being absolutely electric in this. Game and on the other, Side,
PAVIA i, mean he's one of the most fun players
in college football to. Loss we've discussed him a bunch this.
YEAR i don't think he's gona win the highest on
but maybe he deserves to be In New. YORK i think, overall,
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though his passing numbers have been a lot better than
you might. Think you might vision him more as like
AN rpo kind of, quarterback but he's had back to
back games of really solid passing, grades six big time
throws to just one turnover worthy. Play and That tennessee
defense has been i would say below average this year
ninety fifth in the country and passer rating allowed and
they're outside the top sixty and. Explosives SO i think
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you're going to see A tennessee defense that's going to
struggle to get After. Pavia Joshua joseph's really on the,
edge is the Only tennessee pass, rusher and you've Got
sours the tight. End Cheryl. RICHARDSON i, mean these guys
are making plays on the outside for bandy high scoring.
GAME i Think vandy wins and then will have some
fun with the committee over the weekend to see if
they get in the.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Playoff, jared let's get into a couple more. HERE lsu coaches.
Fired you, Know Brian kelly's. Fired well here If Lane
kiffin takes the, job probably some time he or later
tonight or into. Tomorrow they take On. Oklahoma oh you
trending towards college college fall. Playoff they're eleven and a
half point, favorites but the total is thirty. Six, now
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this is the opposite Of Andy, tennessee, right this is
this is blood out of a rock.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Game who do you like with the? Line?
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Unbelievable? Right like you just you don't see college totals
that low unless there's extreme, weather AND i don't think
there's extreme, weather at least In. OKLE i haven't checked
the forecast To, NORMAN i don't think there is anything
crazy this weekend or if it's a service academy, game
and it's neither of. Those this is AN sec football
game WITH sec athletes all over the field and the
totals in the mid. Thirties the reason why is THE
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lsu offense is an absolute. Disaster Michael Van buren is
going to make his third straight. Start did not grade
out well Against Western kentucky last week and they barely
won thirteen to, ten and so you, think, okay, well
Now alys's is going to lean on the run. Game,
well they've got the fourth worst run game in The
power for if you look at the efficiency. Ratings so
they can't run it and they've got a quarterback who
really can't throw. It really tough to see them scoring
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much Against. Oklahoma The sooners are a top ten defense
across the. Board there's only three teams in The power
or four that are better in THE epa For play
numbers on defense this Year Texas, Tech, Indiana Ohio. State
so you could Say oklahoma's got a top five defense
in the. Country AND i think it's very fair to
Say venables might be one of the best defensive mines
in the. COUNTRY i think they've got a significant edge
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on paper on THE lsu offense in this. Game For oklahoma's,
offense we need to see more in the run. Game
we KNOW lsu is going to blitz the heck out of.
You they're great in the, Secondary they're top ten in
the country with fourteen. Picks Blake baker loves to send
the pressure top twenty across the. Board in all of
those blitzing and pressure. Metrics john McTier actually has been
better against the blitz this, year AND i think that
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kind of. IS i actually think some quarterbacks that have
instincts and athleticism like him are better against the blitz
because they're not thinking as. Much it's you have the
open space and you're. Urgent the ball's got to be
there right now because you're under. Durest they don't think
and they just. React AND i think that's why this
could be a really good game from a TIER lsu
secondary's fantastic Mansor delaney's going to be a first round
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Or halsey wouldlin that flashed at the safety. Position it'll
be interesting to see How baker plays. It BUT i
Think oklahoma they can get a little bit going on
the ground. HERE i think we're gonna just grind this
game out because LSU's offenses in dire straits.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
All, right last One Iron Bowl bama and then An
Auburn ton of near misses or why do they call
him near?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Misses shouldn't they be near, hits.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
And it should be near. Hits that's A Georgie shilling.
BIT i.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Think, Yeah bama is only a five and a half point.
Favorite totals forty six and a, half and this is
one of Those kalin boy, like, yeah win this.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
One who he'd like in the. Planes i'll be.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Honest the number kind of tells me he might be
in trouble. Here you know, again At auburn's had had
a really rough year And alabama's. LOOKED i would argue
that That alabama stretch in the middle of the year
when they won those four straight rank, games the best
stretch of college football any team in the country's played all.
Season but they'd kind of run out of steam, because
let's be, honest THE sec is really freaking tough to
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make it through this. Gauntlet this game particularly is is.
Special the last Time bama was in the, building it
was The Jalen milroe more than thirty. One you've got
the kick, six The Cam newton come, back you got overtime.
GAMES i mean this game, LIKE i expect this game
to be an absolute. BATTLE i don't Think bama's gonna
have this decisive edge because let's be, honest they are
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really struggling right. Now on, Offense auburn stops the run
And bama can't run. It And Ty simpson over the
last few games has looked very. Average four, touchdowns three,
pick six big time throws to seven turnover worthy. Plays
so we need to See Ty simpson And Ryan williams
And Jeremy bernard and this elite offense For alabama with
players all over the plays played to the back of
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their baseball. Card you, know as the cliche, Goes auburn's
offense has been a mess all. Year Jackson arnold got,
Benched Aston daniels played well and then he got benched,
again and then Duce knight played last, week actually played
pretty well Against. Mercer but now we're going to go
back To. DANIELS i HEARD Dj dirkins said maybe some
Duce night packages in this. Game it looks like it'll
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be kind of the two of. Them But, auburn essentially
he's down at a second and third seron quarterbacks in this.
GAME i like The bama Linebackers jefferson And lawson and
Hill green like you, Know auburn loves to run those you,
know rpo games to the outside And you're gonna have
a lot of run pass, option a lot of just
straight option. Looks linebacker level's got to be really key
For alabama in this. Game ball security is going to be.
Huge daniels has been turnover, worthy you, know turnover, prone
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AND i Think bama really, WHOEVER i, MEAN i know
this sounds you, Know i'm kind of a cop. Out
whoever turns it over? Less, DOG i think it's going
to win this. GAME i, trust Obviously simpson more THAN
i Do, Daniels but, MAN i don't like the WAY
bam has looked over the last few. WEEKS i think
they eke this one, out BUT i don't know if
they cover awesome.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
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Speaker 2 (28:07):
News, no, no, no turn on the.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
News this is the Herd Line News.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Doug the Egg bowl Between Old miss And Mississippi. State
it's in the third quarter right. Now Old miss is
up by. Eleven they were giving seven and a half
today on the road At Mississippi. State for casual college
football people like, ME i know your die, hard AND
(28:35):
i know there are diehards out, There but for casual football,
People Lane kiffin is putting together the Best Old miss
season SINCE jfk was in. Office everyone remembers the nineteen
sixty two team that went undefeated won the national. Title
everyone remembers. That and don't at me about how socially
offensive a lot of that program was and all that.
Stuff but, Anyways Lane kiffin is putting together an extraordinary
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season and he's likely going to. Leave the bigger picture
question here is if they win, today they're eleven and
one on the, season and they're going to be considered
for the playoff. Seeding they're in the, playoffs but they
need to be considered on how and where and when they'll.
Play If Lane kiffen takes the job AT lsu or
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somewhere else and announces it tomorrow and is not able
to coach in the, playoffs how should the committee look
at this team through that?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Prism if he's not, coaching he's not coaching.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yourself if he can't if he doesn't coach in the, playoffs, CORRECT.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I, mean it's hard to tell what you're gonna get
from the, team. HONESTLY i mean he's not just head,
coach but he's calling the. Plays he's like their offensive,
coordinator whether he's named Opense cordnety or. NOT i do
think that when this game helps with the idea can
they compete in in what is seen as they're up
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twenty four to thirteen right now with three forty three
to go in the third. Quarter but if he's not
coaching the, team he's not the head coach and he's AT.
LSU i mean, AGAIN i that definitely has to knock
them down a seed. LINE i still think if you're
ten to, one you're going to get into The College Tall,
playoff but your seed should definitely be.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Lower but it's a classic, argument. Right we all Remember
Kenyon martin The cincinnati team in, basketball and you brought
up the reference of A Florida state quarterback a couple
of years. Ago for those that say you should judge
a team based on what they've done and not about
what they might do without with a missing, piece what
do you say to that?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
AGAIN i agreed With Kenyon martin's team being knocked down a.
SEED i agreed With Florida state not being in The
College Fall playoff two years ago when they lost their.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
QUARTERBACK i, mean you, know unless we see you perform.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Without the player or coach at the same, level then
we have to because that's the team that's going. Forward
is Old missus good a team If Lane kibben's out? There, No,
no that's why everybody's fighting Over, NO i have no.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
PROBLEM a couple of things news in THE nfl. Today
Mike tomlin has just confirmed That Aaron rodgers does not
have an injury designation For sunday's game against The bills In.
Pittsburgh steelers are getting three points at Home Aaron rodgers.
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Season it kind of makes you think about as we
head down the final stretch, here this could be his
final season in THE. Nfl, yeah not a whole lot
has been covered or written about. IT i have my
theories on. That you, Know aaron hasn't been great to
the media in recent, years and maybe this is kind
of his. Way we don't want to do too many
puff pieces sending him. Off this is kind of his. Punishment.
(31:54):
Maybe what do you think if this is Indeed Aaron
rodgers last six or seven, Week.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
WELL i think it's going to be based upon how he.
PLAYS i think it's that's really what it's going to.
BE i, mean here's a team that has lost for
the last six. Games they did beat The, colts one
of the top teams in THE afc at, home they
beat The, bengals but he hasn't looked. Great they Have, Bills, Ravens,
Dolphins lions At browns And, ravens so winnable games down the,
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stretch but some tough ones.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Here you.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Know, unfortunately most guys on that last year kind of
go out with a. Whimper Tom brady wasn't nearly the
same in his last. Year Brett favre got hurt midway
through his last. Year you, Know Peyton. Manning Remember Peyton
mannings last, year they said he was, hurt but it
felt like they kind of pulled him and then he
started in the, playoffs but they won the Super bowl
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because of the. DEFENSE i think this is actually very
normal for the last. Year and the reason that there
aren't the pieces is nobody wants to say he's washed,
up because that's just not what's done with.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Legends it's just.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
That an underrated game this, Week well maybe it's been.
RATED i just haven't seen much coverage about. It it
is The texans At. Indy, Now houston's been on a
bit of a. Heater they've won three, straight four out of,
five six of their last. Eight of, course the last three.
Games Davis mills has been the. Quarterback schefter's reporting now THAT.
(33:21):
Cj stroud has cleared the concussion. Protocol, NOW. Cj stradd
has been real hit or miss since that rookie, season
to be, Honest so over the past like what season
and a half he's been kind of mid you, know, six,
seven six or. Seven what do you think about putting C.
J stroud back in When Davis mills and the team's
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kind of on a hit? Heater here.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
H.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Cj strad's their. QUARTERBACK i, MEAN i don't THINK i
don't think you. CAN i get it that you want
to play the hot hand and that you, know when
when you're, out if the team plays better with, that You,
god that's the way it. Goes but, YEAH i mean
they're they're all in on their quarterback AND i don't
think you can do it.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Otherwise final, thing and this kind of opens up a
more broader discussion about eating food prepared by other. People,
yes last night The bengals upset The ravens In baltimore
and they got through to that silly eating of turkey
after the game On thanksgiving And Joe burrow declined and
(34:29):
he explained after the, game.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
WHAT i didn't touch.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
IT i didn't touch.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
IT i DIDN'T i don't know who made.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
IT i don't know where they made.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
It i'm good.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
ENOUGH i had a little pepper THAT i was.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
GOOD i was good with the.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Pepper it's an interesting discussion because it's, like who is
touching that food between the time it's made and the
time it is on the. Field what past Midnight Eastern.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Burrow, Question, YEAH i think that's the bigger.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
QUESTION i don't think it's who's made the, food because,
like don't we don't look at a restaurant who's made the.
Food but it was it was, late and you might
have been, Like, okay what's happened in the last seven?
Hours is it still? Hot i've always wondered if that
stuff's still? Hot how could it possibly be hot when
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it's out there on a football field and once you
if you have a chicken turkey anto of, poultry when it's,
once it cools.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Off. Nah but, yes does feel like he's a bit of.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
A german pope who's been touching it all these hands
all over it gross in the.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
PAST i, mean you've got some UNDERPAID nbc production assistant
who probably can't help, himself but to pick through that
as the game's going, along you got. This you can't
in hot, turkey you.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Can't you can't pick off some of the skin and
eats of that beautiful crunchy skin because it'd be, like
who ate the, Skin, jimmy Who's? Jimmy jimmy's the.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Intern that's a hard.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
One, well that's the, news and thanks for the herd.
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coming up on The. Herd it's a little too early
to start Watching christmas movies for some what Non christmas
(36:24):
holiday movies should you watch this?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Weekend it's part of our best. Flast it's next in The.
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Speaker 3 (36:36):
Doug gottliebin For. Colin this is The herd On Fox Sports.
Radio here's a weird one for. You not a weird,
one it's a cool. One So jay stew you, know
we went to The Virgin islands and you, know you
and me and our crew were just, like, hey which
days can we do shows? On it was really hard
(36:57):
with travel that that that's the, focus and like winning.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
GAMES i have an assistant coach WHO i.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Hired WHEN i hired, him he's, like, hey just you,
know my wife is due with our Third november twenty.
FIFTH i was, like, well we're going to be in
The virgin, islands, like you better come up with a
plan there and you, know let me know so when
we get down. There he had all the possible flights
planned if he could get, out AND i told, Him
i'm just, hey, look you can go, whenever Like i'd love.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
You he's a really good.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Assistant he's an awesome. Guy but once you get to the,
island you, KNOW i don't think you're getting back in.
Time if she goes in the labor, well she.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Didn't.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Yesterday she came with us to we went to a
women's shelter and served meals and then we went to
our own. Meal And kendra's wife was just a.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Trooper she went.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
In labor in the early hours of the. MORNING i
think still in. LABOR i haven't got a word. Back
so at some point we will have a new member
of The phoenix. Family but it's a different one for
me Where i'm waiting wait non word that my assistant
coaches third baby has arrived at some point in.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
TIME i know that you know a lot of people
in the waiting room there will just like watch whatever
is on the cable channel that is provided by the.
Hospital but he better be breaking down film while he's
with his.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Wife, yeah, no, no no question about. It he is
definitely my advanced prep. Guy let's get to The best For.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
Last it's almost the end of the, show but that
doesn't mean we're phoning it. In, nope we grind it
the very last. Segment it's time for best For?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Last all, Right Chase, due what do you got for
best For?
Speaker 4 (38:35):
LAST i think THAT i saw an interesting article BECAUSE
i don't think this gets talked about. Enough so holiday
movies are all put into one group, usually, right and
it's mostly what ninety eight Percent christmas. Movies BUT i
think it's a little too early to start watching. Those
so people at The Daily press put together a list
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of five movies that maybe you should watch this weekend
before where you get into Your christmas. Movies, NOW i
don't know if you want to do a countdown or,
not but, LIKE i didn't know that a couple of
these Are thanksgiving. Movies, now let me give you a.
Couple did you know That The scent of A woman
was A thanksgiving? Movie Al? Pacino chris What chris? O'Donnell is?
Speaker 7 (39:19):
That who?
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Did?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, YES i did know.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
That, WELL i remember A thanksgiving, scene BUT i don't
know if it's the, things it's a good. Movie and
with the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of The, marines
and of course Al pacino, plays doesn't he play it for?
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Marine?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Urrah he does his First, oscar his Only. OSCAR i.
Forgot but Remember Grumpy Old, men that's considered A thanksgiving.
MOVIE i REMEMBER i remember watching that when it first came,
out and it was. Great it might deserve a.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Rewatch, Uh Grumpy Old men definitely deserves rema. Watch is
That Walter mathow And Jack? Lemon, Yeah Jack, Lemon.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Wow legends legends in their. Field, YES a couple other
legends have done a couple, movies is, Uh Meg ryan
And Tom hanks they. Did they Did You've Got, Mail
You've Got?
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Mail which is was that the, prequel no sequel To
Sleep us In seattle or was it like a we
had a sleep as In?
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Seattle? FEEL i think same. WRITERS i.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
DON'T i have no idea if they're, connected BUT i
will say, This You've Got mail is very. Dated like
remember when that movie came, Out they're, like, oh, aol
this thing called The internet where we send. Emails, yes
and Now You've Got mail just sounds like, oh that
was obviously a nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Movie, yes, yes and Then The.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
King The king Of All, movies by the, Way thanksgiving.
Movies Planes trains And. Automobiles you AND i this is
like wheelhouse stuff for. Us this is we grew up
watching this. Movie so many. LINES i don't know what
your favorite ones, are but my favorite scene From, Planes
trains And automobiles is when they're going the wrong way
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on the freeway and.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
You want a race going the wrong. Way you watch the.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Race And John candy is giving the sign for you've
been drinking too much of the other people as they
tell them you're going the wrong. Way oh, man classic.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Scene, classic classic.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Scene Another John, Hughes Johnny hughes great movie right Where
John houst Did.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Home alone as.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Well it's also also A Johnny hughes, movie which is
A christmas time. MOVIE i point OUT i Saw The
Running man The New Running man. Yesterday, yeah it's pretty, good,
RIGHT i thought it was. GOOD i it was better
than the. Original better than the. Original. Uh there's a
there's an appearance of a photo Of Arnold schwarzenegger apparently
being the. President but outside of, that, no, no, No
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arnold in the.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Movie the first one was just over the top and,
silly and it's been made fun of the last thirty.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Years the first one was what we used to call
A b, movie and it was almost one of those
movies that if you Watch Mystery Science theater three, thousand
that's what that movie should have been. On so there's
a lot of there's there's like fifteen people listening to
this show right now on their phone or driving around going, like,
Oh Mystery Signs year two. Thousand for, sure for, sure,
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yes absolutely, absolutely those are some good holiday.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Movies.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Diehard, also if you don't want to call it A christmas,
movie you can call it a holiday. Movie it's a family,
movie it's a movie about. Reuniting All, right got a
football game. Tonight got huge college football games this, weekend
ALTHOUGH i will point out it is weird that they
just don't mean what they used.
Speaker 6 (42:48):
To.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Right If Ohio state, loses they're still going To college fotball,
playoff and If michigan, wins they're not yet going to
the college football, playoff but they could play. Again colin
is Back, monday plenty of what he got, right what
he got. Wrong BUT i do think that if you watch.
YESTERDAY i kind of wrong about The. Cowboys season wasn't
(43:08):
a waste And Joe burrow should be, applauded but let's
not make him a hero for while doing his.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Job I'm Doug. Gottlieb have a great. Weekend this is
the hurt