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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. That's a story in the Business
Insider this morning about money dysmorphia that millennials and Gen
zers are more prone to experiencing this, that they they.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Are caused significant.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Stress by worries about money, to which I say, they're
young people.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
That's not body dysmorphia.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
That's being twenty two and broke, just like every other
twenty two year old in the world.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, that's not a condition.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
It goes back to us labeling every life experience as
some sort of condition.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
It's not. It is not being completely normal.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Just being A park fire up in northern California is
up now three hundred and ninety two thousand acres eighteen
percent contained of Nixon Fire burning out in near Temeculus
just over five thousand acres is only about fourteen percent contained.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
A historic prisoner swamp today among six countries, twenty four
different prisoners.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
It's where we kick off swamp watch.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
Swamp is horrible.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
The government doesn't work. Man make it like a reality
TV show. Corn was a bad deus, always a pleasure
to be anywhere from Washington.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
D C.

Speaker 6 (01:22):
Hey Joe, a town all too clearly built on a
swamp and in so many ways still a swamp.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I have to watch a Milwaukee.

Speaker 7 (01:30):
Nobody said drained the swamp.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
I said, oh, that's so keep yepp mansh.

Speaker 8 (01:35):
You know the thing families and I were able to
speak to them on telephone from the Oval Office. They're
out of Russia earlier today, they're flown to Turkey, and
soon there'll be wheels up on their way home to
see their families.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
That was the right At the beginning of the show.
President Biden made made it official from the White House,
standing with the families of some of the people who
have been freed by Russia.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
So we got a journalist back, we got a couple
journalists back print and radio, and we got a veteran back,
and Russia got its way.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Frankly, that's kind of the takeaway.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yes, it feels good, it's great, it's wonderful for these families,
but Russia and Putin got their way. They get back
their usual basket of criminals, including Adam Krasokov, a colonel
in the Russian intelligence services. He was sentenced to life
in Germany after carrying out a Kremlin ordered hit on
a Russian dissident in Berlin. Moscow's shopping list also included

(02:33):
Russian money launderer and two Russian spies.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
The president, this is an interesting thing, a fact that
came out of the Wall Street Journal reporting on this.
He obviously notified the world a week and a half
ago that he was going to step out of the
presidential race. About an hour before he made that announcement,
he called the Prime Minister of Slovenia. They were contributing
a couple of convicted Russian spies to part of this,

(03:00):
to make sure that they could secure the pardon necessary
for the deal to proceed. The CIA director went to
Turkey last week to meet his counterpart and to finalize
all of the logistics for all of this.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
And I love the victory lap and I love that
we all feel good about this, and this was a successful,
complicated situation. But the reality is that the Russians are
just good at taking hostages. They arrest people on trumped
up charges and then agree to free them for very
very very bad.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
People, very asymmetrical.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
We tend to have, you know, a legal system in
this country, and that even if you are not an
American citizen, but that you are caught in this country,
we put you through the legal system for the most part,
right and Russia does not do that. Russia can pick
up whoever they want, whenever they want, and you know,

(03:55):
either completely blow things out of proportion, like Britney Grinder's
drug conviction, or completely make them up, like saying that
Evan Gershkevich was an was a CIA agent.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well, one of the ways that they tried to get
that killer back is when they grabbed Britney Griner. That
wasn't going to work because America couldn't go to Germany
and say, hey, they've got one of ours or another
one of ours, get rid of this guy or release
this guy. The reason that they were able to do that,

(04:30):
or that Germany was able to save face, I guess
you could say and agree to this is because one
of the hostages released was a German citizen who was
arrested in Russia for gummies, gummies, cannabis gummies.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
So one of the issues that has come up foreign
policy experts. We'll talk about this for a long time.
Like you suggested earlier, there will be books written about
the machinations that go into this.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Movies will be made about this.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Michael Allen is a foreign policy expert who worked for
the Bush administration and talked that I said, I should
say that the timing of this may have something to
do with the fact that Joe Biden is the lamest
of lame duck presidents that we've seen.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
You know, I think a lot of this has to
do with the withdrawal of President Biden not running again
next time.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I think he's.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
Able to go to some NATO allies maybe with heavy heart,
and say, listen, I understand that this Russian committed murder
in a park in front of children inside of Munich,
but we're trying to do a historic deal here. Let's
win one for the Gipper, if you will, let us
have a little bit of room in order to trade

(05:44):
this particular Russian. So I think Biden is leaning hard
on friends and especially NATO allies, so that he can
try and get a grand deal.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
And again, Michael Allen said that a couple hours before
the President talked about the negotiations.

Speaker 8 (06:00):
Made this possible was the feet of diplomacy and friendship.
Friendship vulnerable countries help get this done. They joined a
difficult complex negotiations at my request, and I personally thank
them all again. I thank them personally.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
I'll thank them again. You'd have to be friends to
make some of that deal. Hey, Gary and Shannon and
this Mandy. I just thought it was so funny because
as soon as you say, Shannon, as soon as you said.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
Show me your genitals, I started singing that song.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
And then he started sing that song. I was like, man,
this show has really warped me in a good way.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
I was hoping I was alone genital and that your
genitals show me your genitals.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
In the middle of swamp watch.

Speaker 9 (06:47):
Jerry Shannon.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yes, dumb question. Yeah, if Kamala Harris becomes president, what's
going to be the first man? It's going to be
the first like the first gentleman, isn't that Doug?

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, Doug?

Speaker 3 (07:01):
M huff un huff huffy.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Did he think she was not married?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Maybe that's what it was.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
I did see a great tweet the other day that said,
if she's elected president, he should forego the title of
first gentlemen and just go by Doug so that when
they do a big formal introduction, they say ladies and gentlemen,
the President of the United States, Madam Kamala Harris and
Doug that would be great.

Speaker 9 (07:31):
Why do people defend Britney Griner. She wasn't set up.
She brought drugs into a place where you're not allowed
to have drugs. She knew what she was doing. She
took the chance. That's ridiculous. Stop defending her. She should
have served her sentence there and she should have been
punished because she brought dope into a place where they

(07:52):
don't like dope. Just amazing.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Stop it, okay, please, we were saying that she held
as a political prisoner for the amount of hash oil
that she was caught with. The normal sentence is about
two weeks in jail. If that and she got nine
years as a sentence. That was the problem with it,

(08:17):
not defending or she that was a stupid move on
her part, but also they took advantage of her stupid
move and tried to make it into a giant thing.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Kids, don't take drugs on your travels, okay, don't take drugs,
Just general and buy.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Him when you get there.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
A man in Orange County, the one accused of running
that betting operation whose customers included shohe Atani's former interpreter.
He has agreed to plead guilty to a trio of
federal charges. Matthew Boyer is his name. He's expected to
flee guilty next week to charges of operating an unlawful
gambling business, money laundering, and filing a false tax return.

Speaker 10 (08:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
You can't really run an illegal gambling without filing a
false tax return, can you?

Speaker 11 (08:59):
Right?

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (09:00):
So President, don't we all kind of file false tax returns?

Speaker 3 (09:03):
What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (09:04):
How dare you?

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Well?

Speaker 2 (09:04):
We all take liberties.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
I don't know what you speak of.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, you don't do your own taxes.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
That's not true. That's true. Do you prepare your taxes?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
I do not? You do not?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Case closed? You can you?

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (09:20):
I do.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Please.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
National Association Black Journalists, we played for you yesterday.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
This was President Trump.

Speaker 7 (09:28):
She was always of Indian heritage, and she was only
promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know she was black until
a number of years ago when she happened to turn black,
and now she wants to be known as black. So
I don't know is she Indian or is she black?

Speaker 1 (09:42):
She is always college.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
I respect either one.

Speaker 9 (09:47):
But she obviously doesn't.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Could he have said something like she used to always
when I knew her years ago, she was always leaning
into Indian heritage. Could he have said something like that
and gotten away with it. He's very nuanced in his speech.
I'm just wondering or if it's just all off the table.
People on both sides of the aisle condemned him for that.
Texas Senator John Corny.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
I mean, I think we're all a combination of something right.

Speaker 11 (10:10):
And so, but I'm not going to get involved in
the back and forth.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
South Carolina Senator Lindsay Graham. I'm known the Vice president
for a while.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
She's always embraced her heritage proudly as she should. My
problem with Vice President Harris's the policy choices she's made.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
And then Dick Durbin, Senator out Illinois, after what he put.

Speaker 11 (10:31):
Barack Obama through. It's no surprise, but it is a disappointment.
We need to raise the rhetoric in this race to
a level where the American people can be proud of
both Canada.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Please, what a Pollyanna? I love your optim Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Trump first got involved in politics when he called for
remember the long form birth certificate for Barack Obama, and
there was a bunch of time where Barack O I
almost like, screw this. I'm like, there's no reason for this,
and then eventually had to release it and uh, speaking
to a sorority. Uh, Kamala Harris said that his speech

(11:13):
was the same old show, same old show, same old show.
I almost thought she wanted to say a different word.
There a different Oh.

Speaker 10 (11:19):
Donald Trump spoke at the annual meeting of the National
Association of Black Journalists, and it was the same old show,
the divisiveness and the disrespect.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
See, I thought she was going to say something else.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
See, there were some people who who sent us propaganda
about her, just uh, you know, pictures of her dressed
in Indian garb and things, family photos and things, and saying,
you know, this is not a black family or what
have you. And people true believers that believe that they're
that maybe she isn't black or that she turned black,

(11:57):
which is troubling, as opposed to at least one of
our coworkers who's a super Trump guy and was just like,
I love it. It's hilarious. I love that guy. I
love everything he says. He doesn't take him seriously, but
just loves him. The entertainment, the entertainment of it all.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
I did.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Where to the point where you either have to care
a lot about her heritage and how she identifies, or
you have to care.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
None at all.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
And I can't figure out which one we're supposed to be.
Do I care? Do I care whether she identifies as
Indian or Black or some combination thereof?

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Are you just German? Are you more things?

Speaker 4 (12:37):
I'm very mutty, very North European. Maybe a little Welsh,
a lot of Welsh. Really, I just nailed that. Look
at me, and there's there's some there's some you know,
there's some other stuff that gets in there that would
add to my flavor.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Perhaps, Yeah, Pacific islander. I don't know there's any Pacific islander.
But there are some other far fle, far fetched portions
of the globe from whence my DNA came.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Really, yeah, it's weird, Trust me, it's weird. Where far
flung where there were some from Africa and some from
South America? Interesting at least in whatever I spit into
a cup and sent it.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
In the mail. What did they know? Ethnic? I know?
That's exactly what people say to me all the time.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Mark Saltzman is our tech guru and we like to
talk to him at this time on Thursdays.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
The machines are getting smarter. This is tech Talk, brought
to you by Skynet.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Well, we are hitting the road this summer, and Google
Maps is the lane we drive in most of the time.
Mark Saltzman has some tips and tricks to try during
your summer travel.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
Hey, first of all, happy Thursday, or as they say,
happy Little Friday. And yeah, it's that time of the
year where you know, I don't know if this is
the same in Socow where people hit the road in
the summer because you have like steady, beautiful weather.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
All year round.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Right, Well, I don't know about all year round, but
oh yeah, please, Well we only have three hundred and
sixty five days, about three hundred and sixty of them
are really good.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Yeah, okay, fair, fair, So in many other parts of
the country, this is the time where you load up
the kids they may not be back in school yet,
and you head out on the road.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
So I wrote a piece on how to leverage.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
Google Maps, which many of us use, or Ways which
is owned by Google. Now, by the way and Ways
to get pun intended to get more out of the
mapping app that you know and love.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
So a couple little things that you may not know
your Google Maps can do.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
One of them is, if you don't have a healthy
data plan with your mobile phone, or you're traveling out
of the country and you have to pay for data
through a carrier, a mobile phone carrier provider, you can
download maps to use offline.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
You just go into the options.

Speaker 5 (14:54):
You select the destination before you go, or when you're
on free Wi Fi, like at the hotel, and then
you go into the options and you can choose offline
maps and you will be able to see the map
an overhead view of the map, and make sure you
just draw with your finger how big you want, like
do you want all of New York for example, it
will be it'll use up more data than just one

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little neighborhood within New York, but it'll be all offline,
so will not tap into your data, which is especially
good when you're overseas. Another one is if you're going
to say Disneyland or a national park, where you find
where you've parked, it's going to be very tough to
find it later because it's like a massive parking lot.

(15:37):
We've all been there, especially parents who are just exhausted
and you're kind of on autopilot.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
You park and you don't remember where you put the minivan.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
Afterwards, you can many apps will now automatically pin where
you've parked, not just Google Maps but others as.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Well, or will it give you actual walking directions back
to it. I mean that's the whole thing, right, Well,
that's pretty great because the lower version of that is
you take a snap a picture of Donald Ducks Section
E or something. Yeah, exactly, you're in the you know,
lot e seventeen, or you look for a landmark, you know.
So that is something that's indy, is that Google Maps

(16:16):
will remember where you parked, or if you if it's
not set up to do so automatically, you just tap
this little button at the bottom of the screen before
you if you can remember that as you're multitasking with
holding kids and strollers and car seats and all that,
it will give you step by step directions back to
your car with some degree of accuracy. It's using GPS,

(16:38):
it down to a couple of feet, so it.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Should be, you know, cool at that point.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
At that point you just use your fob to make it,
you know, make your vehicle make a noise helpful.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Going to a football game or after a football game.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
That's another good application.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
I see that or lost after a game. It's so
file because people don't remember that. They just they're excited
to go to the game. They just park somewhere and
then they I'm out of the stadium in a different spot,
and they're completely turned around.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, it's a good one.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
If your listeners have tweens or teens and they are
starting to venture out on their own, but you want
a little bit of peace of mind, you can use
location sharing. So it's you know, the deal is, okay,
I'm going to let you go to your whatever friend's house,
but I want to be able to see where you are.
So that's an opt in feature to share with family

(17:26):
members where you're meeting up and they can keep an
eye on you digitally, you know, just as a safety
production precaution. There's a bunch of other tips. If you're
in this article. There's something new called immersive view that
leverages AI. It's kind of like that, you know, the
real photos that you can see, you know, or augmented

(17:46):
reality view through your phone's lens. When you're traveling somewhere new,
it'll give you information about like the Eiffel Tower, for example.
But immersive view takes to the next level.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Very cool.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
That's that's one I've seen where you could stand on
a street corner, right, I assume the augmented reality version
of that, where you you could look around and it
will tell you which restaurants, for example, are nearby.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Or Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
But just be careful if you are on a street
corner that you aren't looking at your phone, even if
you are looking through your phone's camera lens and you
can still see the world around you, you know, just
just exercise some extra caution around traffic.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, there's lots more.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
There's the ability to locate ev charging stations through Google Maps,
finding bike or scooter scooter rentals u doing so there's
a lot. So if you just google Google Maps or
tips and Tricks and my name Mark Saltsman, Mark with
a C, Saltsman with a Z, you'll be able to
find all these little hacks. The newest one I'll leave

(18:44):
you with is called It's it's basically the ability to
see when the most popular times are at a destination.
So you know what to expect. Right, So there's a
trendy cafe in Beverly Hills. You can scroll down to
find at that says popular times, and you'll know how
busy it should be, whether you're traveling or you're just

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in your own hometown. It could. It will vary in
real time throughout the day and give you a sense. Similarly,
if you haven't done this before, when you're looking to
Google directions somewhere but you're not leaving just yet. Let's
say you're leaving the next morning, it will take into
account using data what the average time should be when
you say you're going to leave, Like tomorrow morning at
eight am is going to be different in la as

(19:28):
we would know than you know on three o'clock, or
maybe not, because you know, rush hour is kind of
a thing of the past these days.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Right, Yeah, Mark, the other article you wrote is about
something I'm afraid that we need, which is a parcel guard,
a personal parcel box to prevent people from stealing the
stuff that you order online.

Speaker 9 (19:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
So I've written about ports pirates a lot over the years,
and you know your ring doorbell can only do so much.
It's not going to really, Yeah, sure it can act
as a bit of a deterrent, but if the thief
doesn't care or they're covering face, it's.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
It's only going to be a to turn or maybe some.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Video evidence after your package has been lifted. And so
what's becoming more popular. So there's a few things you
can do to lower the odds of your your packages
getting stolen. And if we are traveling more this summer,
just to tie it into our last topic, then you
aren't at home to accept packages. So one is a
parcel box or your own personal mailbox that can take

(20:25):
boxes as well that you would put on your porch,
and you can secure them to you know, a little
fence if you have there. Some of them come with
like a little chain lock or you know something like
that padlock, or you can secure it to the wall
if you're up for that, or just put some sandbags
inside at the bottom. But the idea is that it's
big enough to accept a few boxes there as low

(20:46):
as you know, under a hundred box that if you
do like to shop online and you're not as home
that much these days, you can go with those. Now,
those are the ones that are under one hundred bucks,
are just a regular dumb box with a mechanical key.
There are some quote unquote smart parcel boxes that have
cameras and sensors that will push a notification to your
phone when the door has been opened, and they'll snap

(21:08):
a picture of the person dropping it in and all
that kind of stuff. But if you don't need that,
then they're pretty cheap.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
That's one option.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
Another is to rent a po box through you know
ups sorry usps. Yeah, you have to make an extra
trip on the way home from work to pick up
that package, but it's better than that package not being there.
So yeah, you can rent a box or send it
to you know, to work if your boss is okay
with it.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
You know.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
With Amazon, for example, you can pull down the options
and choose another address. And then, finally, with Amazon, there
is an option called in in Sorry, it's called key
in Garage Delivery Amazon key in Garage Delivery. As the
name suggests, you are letting a vetted driver punch in
a one time unique code so you don't have to

(21:55):
give out your real garage key code. If you have
a little keypad and.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
We each got a piece of mail here, Uh, does
yours have any white powder in it?

Speaker 6 (22:09):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (22:09):
But it's got It's quite a menagerie of fellow addresses.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
It's got you and I, it's got Petress and money.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Ah, that's an interesting.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Rodney and Fred.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
This is a This appears to be on manifesto, is
it not. I write you all for a couple of reasons.
First of all, I'd like to attend your remote broadcast
whenever I can.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
It's a picture of Abraham's.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Pets and money. You guys have a remote this Friday.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
So Terry Bradshaw.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Terry Bradshaw's involved in this.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Why wouldn't you Why wouldn't he be Woodlawn? There's a
football field.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
This is a long letter.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
There's a lot going on here.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
It's important that we have.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Texas.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
It's important that we have connections with people, right yep.
Is this where JFK was shot Dealey Plaza?

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah. Yeah, there's a tire bill.

Speaker 12 (23:17):
Yeah okay, I mean once it started going off the rails,
figured tire.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Tire bill.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
A good news story, a toddler was rescued out of
an underground PVC pipe in mound Ridge, Kansas. Congrats to
the mound Ridge Police Department. They said that This fourteen
month old boy was understandably shaken after having fallen into

(23:53):
a sump pump drain pipe while playing outside.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
A PVC pipe.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Ten to twelve inches across is what they said boy
fell into the drain According to the Mound Ridge EMS
director Brian Falco, kids are always a concern, especially small kids,
because at that age they don't communicate. He's not going
to follow instructions. It's not like an adult, but ten
to twelve feet deep. Police specifically commended one of the officers.

(24:23):
They identified him as Officer Ronnie Wagner. They said that
he was able to construct a makeshift catch pole using
a smaller PVC pipe and a rope.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Hey, you've you've rescued a baby before.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
I mean it wasn't a PVC pipe in the ground,
but it was a hot car. Do you think if
you came across this baby in this hole that you
would be able to fashion something to rescue said baby?

Speaker 10 (24:48):
Feel like?

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Chris Little asked me that question in my job interview here.
If you ran across a baby now down at the
bottom of a sump pump, would you be able to His.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Question was like, what if somebody dropped you into like
a tank or a blender. Yeah, and how would you
get out? I mean, how did Chris Little ask us
that question? In us not call somebody and just a
rack away from the desk and say, you know what,
on second thought, there's a red flag here, folks. This
guy's criminally insane.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
The creative solution, they said from Officer Ronnie Wagner, was
instrumental in lifting the child safely from the pipe. Police
thank first responders for their work and rescuing the toddler.
Police said, we extend our deepest gratitude to all the
first responders for their swift and effective action and that
transformed a dangerous situation into a successful rescue. But they

(25:39):
don't get into specifically, is what do they refer What
do they mean by a catch pull?

Speaker 3 (25:45):
I mean, I when they said that, it sounds.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Like they kind of put a loop of the of
the rope through the smaller PBC pipe, so it had
a loop at the bottom of it. Yeah, but then
they could tie it at the top so that it
doesn't just fall back down the pipe when you grab
the baby.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
I wonder what this baby's name is. They don't tell you.
They don't tell us.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
I mean I feel like I'm pretty invested with this
baby and the pipe.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
And does the baby? Will the baby remember this? Fourteen months?
I don't know if a baby remembers that.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
No, the baby would not remember that. Babies remember weird stuff.
Do they do you remember anything?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
I do have one memory that's pretty clear. But here's
the thing, you know, you never know. Memories are so unreliable.
But I have a memory of being in a stroller.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
You sound like a prosecutor.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
It's true.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I covered enough trials to believe in that theory. I
remember being in a stroller at Meewalk Park, at Mewalk Park, Yeah,
and my mom getting something out of the car or whatever.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I lost sight of her and was terror.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
It's the first feeling of terror that I can remember,
feeling of where did she go?

Speaker 3 (27:07):
You know, well, fear of abandonment.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
It's probably goes back to, you know, being adopted, right right?
I mean, I don't know if all babies the mom
goes out of sight and they have a freaking conneption.
My dog does that? Yeah, well he was adopted too,
Yes he was.

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