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January 28, 2025 25 mins
Gary and Shannon start the second hour of the show with news of Edison denying the cause of the Creek Fire back in 2017.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Advocacy groups are preparing to file their first lawsuit the
challenges President Trump's executive order revising policy on transgender troops
could set a ban in the armed forces. It's the
same legal team that spent years during the first administration
for Trump fighting his ban on transgender troops before Joe
Biden came in and scrapped it when he took when

(00:28):
he took office. Serbia's Prime when's last day? We went
to Belgrade, Serbia. We haven't been there for a while.
Prime Minister mich has resigned. In an attempt to call
on the political tensions. What's nothing wrong with that. We
asked you a little earlier how you used Chat, GPT

(00:48):
or any other AI tool on a regular basis.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Hey, guys, this is bad, But I'm a horrible person.
I use AI to write my anniversary cards, birthday cards,
you know, you know, anything like that, anything like that
that requires thought, That's what I use.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
He's AI for. So I'm an awful person as well.
Because so my husband's great at getting cards birthday, Christmas,
things like that, and we've been together quite some time.
What year is it. It's twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five,

(01:30):
will be twenty five?

Speaker 4 (01:31):
This right years?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Why am I asked?

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Year?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
You've got a head start with the cognitive decline game,
Well you do about an eight year let's start. Oh sorry,
hurt people, hurt people. I've got a big birthday coming up.
No kidding, anyways, months away. I'm already persevering. No, but

(01:54):
we've been together for oh nineteen years this fall. Anyway,
the cards are have become had taken on a Every
card is written the same, like the same, the same
general like seven sentences, okay, the same, which is lovely,

(02:16):
but he lovely lovely and they're lovely. But I did
mention if I know, I know, I'm a horrible person.
I just started laughing at one Christmas because I was like,
this is so funny. It's the same all, Isn't that awful?

(02:36):
I'm an awful person. I wanted to make this guy
feel better about using AI, but so now I feel
awful because ever since then, he comes up with new things,
you know, to write to switch it up, so it's
not the same.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Card with that part of it, but the idea that
you would notice I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
That seems it was the same sentiment for at least
twelve to thirteen years.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Does he buy a card that's blank and right it
in or does he buy a card that has Hallmark
stuff on it and then finish.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
It with Hallmark stuff? It's minimal, it's he usually he
writes his own, which is lovely. That's my mom is
not that person. She doesn't have a way with words.
She'll tell you, so what she'll do is she'll send
an She'll send a card that Hallmark wrote the whole thing,
and then she'll just underline words.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
My mother in law does the exact same thing.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Really funny, I one time bought I like to buy
blank cards if I can find them, but they have
to have a nice I have to have a good
design on them. My wife, I don't remember what was
the occasion, it was our anniversary of Valentine's say, something
like that. Two years consecut I bought the exact same

(03:44):
cards that I've done that too, and uh and she
posted him up on the bulletin board just as her.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
So she a dumb ass. Don't go No.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Three peats, so her and I have done that.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
The Eaten fire, of course it burnt throughout Tadena, might
have been caused by insert name.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Of cause of fire here we do not know.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
There are law firms that are already suing so Cal Edison,
suggesting that it was an Edison power line that in
those very high winds of January seventh, started sparking, arking
and cause of started the fire in the first place.
Compare that to twenty seventeen the Creek fire explodes up
in the Angelus National Forest.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
And.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Seven years later, the federal government has concluded that the
fire in fact was caused by so Cal Edison and
their power lines. Federal government final lawsuit saying that they
not only caused the fire, but withheld information about the
cause of the fire that would have led to them

(04:50):
figuring it out earlier, and the government wants forty million
dollars in damages. Now, one of the things that happened
was five weeks after that fire started up in Fresno
Madera Counties. They said it was caused by transmission lines
operated by LEDWP, but investigation was complicated by the fact
that LADWP said the fire started six minutes before they

(05:15):
had any faults show up on their power lines. The
report was released publicly in twenty twenty. Insurance companies and
fire victims sued LADWP and asked Edison for their information
about the fire in that distribution line known as the
Lopez Circuit. They didn't hear back right away, and again
they're asking Edison for fire information. This was a devastating,

(05:40):
like three hundred and fifty thousand acre fire and in December,
this is just last month, one day before the statute
of limitations expired. Edison handed over their information on the
electrical fault that on that line.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I don't mean to draw connection to what turned out
to be murderous fascination fixation, But the beefs with the
healthcare industry rivaled by the beefs with the socalitisens of
the world. Yeah, PG in terms of PGEN, in terms
of the lying and the denying and the taking away

(06:19):
of coverage, all of that all very similar in terms
of the frustration level and the people that it affects,
and the dirty, dirty tricks they all engage in.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Think listen, think of the campfire up in Paradise. It
was a PGEN line almost one hundred year old line
that started that fire, and they're on the hook for
billions and billions of dollars is PG and E. The rebuilt,
the lives that were overturned, the lives that were law

(06:50):
not just the eighty five people I think was the
number that were killed in the fire, but the thousands
of families that were affected by that. I mean that
entire area. Yes, they talk about rebuilding, and they do
have some of the homes that are rebuilt, and they're,
you know, putting infrastructure back into that place.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
But that tire.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
This is echoed, you know, by orders of magnitude greater
in Palisades and Alta.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Dina because of what happened.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
It's just it's hard to wrap your head around. Falker
is known for his wisdom, for giving words of encouragement.
He's like Yoda, but in a different movie. And I
have a question about Obi Wan. Do we have time
for that?

Speaker 4 (07:33):
No?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Serious? So he helps. I'm not trying to be cute,
I'm trying to be or a brat. I'm trying to
be serious. He helps Luke. So this is where it
comes from. This is where it came from. I'm reading
a book right now and there's a guy in the
book who calls out the girl in the book. He goes,
you're probably someone who would have chosen Luke Skywalker over

(07:56):
Hans Solo. And so I asked my husband about this
this morning. I go, which one would you have picked?
He's like, everyone would pick Han Solo? And I'm like,
because the other guy is just like a kid. He's like, hey,
he's like a kid. He's got the force, but he's
learning how to use it. I was like, right, right,
he has a whiney little bee okay party. And I
was like, so they're all helping him, like Yoda. And

(08:16):
he's like, well, obi Wan is like the teacher. And
I was like, okay, well what's his backstory? And he's like,
I don't know what his backstory is. Doesn't he have
a back He's got to have a backstory, right, the
guy with the beard.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
I'm not going to answer any of these questions.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
I'm asking all available in open source pop.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
I'm asking a friend, no, no.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Watch the movies.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Is there one about the backstory for obi Wan?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Basically the yes, basically the whole. Ewan McGregor plays the
younger obi Wan kenobi.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Oh Okay, Okay, in a later movie. Well it's technically
episodes one, but it's a beginning. It's a later movie,
but it was a prequel to correct got it? Yeah, okay,
so he does have a backstory.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Of course, Okay, I got a backstory.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Got it. I just didn't know if that was something
they haven't done yet, Like, is there an origin story
they haven't done yet.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I'm sure they could find some secondary characters that need
an origin story. Okay, but no, they've they've pretty much
filled it. They've exhausted all of that. Yeah, all right, See,
I was a legit question. Yep, you didn't answer it,
but you said there's like twelve Star Wars movies now
and you've watched none of them.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
I just wanted a synopsis of the Obi Wan backstory,
Like how did he become so wise?

Speaker 4 (09:37):
I asked Ai, She'd ask chat GPT.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Okay, I'll ask right, I'll do it right now.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
You have a show to do.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Well, you've started it started, or asked the question. He
was born on the planet Steujon in fifty seven bbhy
is that before Yoda?

Speaker 4 (09:57):
No idea?

Speaker 1 (09:59):
It was taken from his family at a young age
to train as a Jedi at the Jedi Temple on
Corsicant Interesting. He had a brother named Owen. He has
vague memories of playing with Owen, but concluded that these
were visions from the force. Ah. So the Force wants
him not to know the full truth. Maybe Obi Wan

(10:21):
was identified as forced sensitive aha, and he was trained
under Master Yoda. He became a Jedi Knight at age
twenty five. This is stuff that I was curious about.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Something to me?

Speaker 1 (10:47):
What did he say? It was something about you? Was
it cognitive decline? You know, Jacob's going to be thirty
almost just spit out. What was it it? Jacob say it?

Speaker 4 (11:03):
I gotta go break.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
No, we don't have to go to break. We're not
going to break till you tell me.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
That's twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
It's twenty six, forty three gen rode In. Gary's daughter
is wearing a kill a Mal shirt, his son works
at a job that's perfect for disposing of bodies, and
his dog is shredding bibles. The tides are turning in
the Hoffman household, and I'm here for it exactly. I
can't wait till Super Bowl. I'm gonna fit right in.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
When we come back. Do you know what project pan is.
No how often you buy new makeup?

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Pretty, it's a continuous effort.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
That's a kind of plays into that.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
We'll talk about that when people pledge to buy less
and sometimes by nothing.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
You don't look all this old without a bunch of makeup. Huh,
I thing, Okay, you didn't have to say anything. You
can just go to Deborah. I went to this new
dance class last night. Oh, I get it, and you
never know what you're going to get, Like it's adult class,
but this was like twenty two year.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Olds adult dancing.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Huh okay, I see what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
You'll do it all right?

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Good And let's just say I was ready for a
wheelchair at the end of that, oh man.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
The first official White House Press briefing is taking place
in President Trump's second term. Caroline Levitt the twenty seven
year old Press secretary.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
She's twenty seven seven.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Good for her, by good for her, the youngest, I believe,
the youngest in history.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
See Jacob, she's out there, twenty seven. Oh, he's not
even in it.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
She's I mean, this is going about is what you
would expect. There's there's still some contention between She's strong though.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I was listening to her talk. She is trying to
set the tone there in that room, and I don't
know if she'll be able to keep it, but good
on her to have that kind of balls balls at
twenty seven.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah, it's a big deal.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
And the thing about White House press secretaries, they very
rarely last an entire term. Seasoned, she's very well, what
did she do before? I have no idea at twenty seven?
She did nothing before this, That's not true. Where she
got to school, I don't know, but I know she
was a part of the original the original Trump term,

(13:39):
first term, I should say, and then was very active
in the campaign. So she's been she's been battle tested
and again holding her first press briefing in the second term.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
All right, buying less product is called no Buy twenty
twenty five Project PAN.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Now, this is an example.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
There's a bunch of people out there who are realizing
they're overspending.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
They want to get down the debt.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
That they have on their credit cards or whatever, and
they're kind of finding new creative ways to do this.
This is not a new system of saving money. In fact,
we've talked with Dave Ramsey, a couple of times. The
I guess personal finance guru Dave Ramsey, and one of
the things that he espouses is getting control of your spending.

(14:28):
First of all, you have to know what you're spending
your money on and where all of it is going.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
And these days, with.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Subscriptions for streaming services or subscriptions for I don't know,
the book of the month, whatever it is that you
subscribe to, you kind of forget.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Some of those things.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
And this whole.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
By less or buy nothing is a way for people
to at least take stock on what it is that
they're doing. Project Pan is an example of that, mostly
for women, because I'm going to generalize and say women
wear more makeup than men. It's a trend that spurs
people to finish all their skincare, makeup or body care

(15:16):
products before they buy a replacement.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Get all the way through your moose.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Or your hair spray, or your foundation or your whatever
other people before.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
You buy a different one that you think is going
to work better. I'm assuming because I do wait for
the products that I use regularly. I do wait till
it's done, till I buy more of that same product.
But I have been known to say, be you know,
fall into the trap of oh, that looks like it'll work, well,
I'll get that even though I have something comparable.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Alicia Berman is a thirty five year old works in
the beauty industry in New York. Had a credit card
and loan balance of almost forty nine thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
She said part of me anxiety.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
She said part of that was the pressure she felt
to dress a certain way for work, and last year
she decided to focus on owing that.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
I feel that all the time, pressure to address a
certain way.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
You literally took your shoe off about an hour ago
and stuck it up on the desk.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
I find that hard to believe. She says.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
She plans to do the same with skincare products. She
has used up almost one hundred makeup products that she
had purchased and received over the years, so her no
buy list things that she will not be buying this
year clothes, beauty products, perfume, jewelry, home decor.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
And books.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Also has plans to cut down on takeout orders and
to make it to her pilates classes to avoid cancelation fees.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
I didn't know that was a definse.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
There's no reason for that. Those costs so much you should.
It's almost like they charge you that much so or
you pay that much so you know you won't cancel.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
We talked about this before. We talk about it in
mental health areas. Financial health areas are just like physical
health areas. You have to be able to understand what's
going in your body to change your diet in order
to make it more healthy. You have to know where
your money is going in order to change those habits
so that you're financially more healthy than you were. Rebecca

(17:15):
Souden lives in Corona, twenty seven year old. She wrote
down rules her no by year include an eighty five
dollars weekly budget for food eighty five bucks, which you
think about hard, well, for one person, one person that's okay, yeah,
for two people, or for card that's very hard.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
She gives herself fifty dollars a week for discretionary spending.
That's another plan that a lot of people don't stick to.
Is you give yourself an allowance of forty bucks, sixty
bucks whatever a week, and then whatever you don't spend.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
There's two tracks of thought.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Whatever you don't spend, if I don't spend anything discretionary
on myself. Over the course of a week, I got
another fifty bucks I can compile for next week. So
next week, I got one hundred bucks I can spend
on myself if I choose to, and then so on
and so forth. Other people, if you don't spend that
fifty bucks, they'll throw that into whatever savings account that
they have, or invest that fifty dollars because they think

(18:19):
I was fine without spending it.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Who's that person? Someone with someone with that person.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Great mental restraint, I would say, well.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
There's another octopus out the life cycle of the common octopus.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Teddy Swims is also everywhere lately. Yes, he got a
new album out.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Do you hear?

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, I've heard some of it.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Okay, that's good. Good talk.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Well we're here for another two plus hours. It's not
like I cut the conversation short. Did have you heard
the album? Do you enjoy it?

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Good talk? Well what are we talking about now?

Speaker 2 (19:03):
You're different? You're mean when you stand up. Are you tired?
Are you tired?

Speaker 1 (19:08):
I feel like you have something else going on. Is
this about your dog eating the Bible? What's happening?

Speaker 4 (19:13):
You didn't he didn't eat it. He just he just
tore it up, and I don't know if that's better not.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Maybe he's Jewish? Was it well testament?

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Are they gonna say he didn't he didn't touch the
pentateuc aha.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Aha.

Speaker 6 (19:31):
Sounds like you guys need some stuff to talk about.
What about like Trump turning the water on in California?
What's up with that? I mean, was it a fake drought?
Did we have water all along they just needed to
like turn it on? What's up? I need some explanation
on all this water stuff.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Well, we'll explain it when we get to swamp Watch.
But Trump did not turn on any water. He did
not send the military into California to turn on the water.
But that's what he wrote in his truth social post.
And we'll explain what's going on with that.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
At the top of the hour.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Starbucks is going to start installing panic buttons for staff
because the coffee makers trying to crack down on customers
who sit in their coffee shops and try to use
the bathrooms without buying anything. Workers have been given new
guidelines on how to kick out customers who stay in
there for a prolonged amount of time, try to use

(20:27):
up their lavatories or a fill up water bottles without
making a purchase. The companies also training workers in conflict
de escalation, panic buttons are going to be installed in
a handful of stores in a trial, and how to
best keep Starbucks Barista's secure and safe.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Peta is pissed off now about Groundhog Day because of
you know, the groundhog. They've suggested that punk satani Phil.
Of course, the groundhog who predicts whether winter will go
on for six more weeks or spring will arrive early,
should be replaced with a weather reveal cake.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
It's got to be a vegan cake too, you know.
They said it would mimic that of a sex reveal
for a baby. Once cut, the weather reveal cake would
show one of two colors, blue which means six more
weeks of winter, or pink, indicating the early spring.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
That's awful, are we not Americans who use an actual
groundhog for Groundhog Day. It's not called cake Day, it's
not called fun fetti day. No, It's called groundhog Day.

(21:50):
Why because if you really were Peta, you would know
the magnificence of the groundhog. If you really cared about animals,
you would celebrate their gifts, their special talents. You would
know the history of groundhog Day, you would know what

(22:12):
it means to this country and the people.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
It says right there in the Declaration of the Constitution,
it says, let Americans have dominion over the fish of
the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and
over the livestock, and over all the earth and every
other creeping thing that creeps on the earth, including the ground.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Was that excerpt of our countries founding document that led
to the first Groundhog Day celebration where in punk Satani, Pennsylvania,
February second, eighteen eighty seven, it was created by who oh,
a man named climber Pete. I bet you didn't know that.
How about drenching yourself in this great country's history and

(22:58):
learning about climber Free, a newspaper editor and member of
the punk Satani Groundhog Club. How about that? How about
knowing about why a groundhog makes a key groundhog meteorologist?
You know in Europe, in ancient Europe, badgers or sacred
bears were used to predict the winter.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, but you know what, we don't need an America.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Badgers are sacred bears.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
We don't need no stinking badgers.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
No, we need the groundhog. Furthermore, it's not just against America,
it's against God because the tradition of groundhog Day comes
from the medieval Catholic holiday of Candlemus candle Mus. You're
gonna scoff your whatever you scoff, You're gonna thumb your

(23:47):
nose at Candlemus.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Umm, Peter President Ingrid Newkirk said, year after year, Phil
is transported to Gobbler's Knob with disked on stage and
subjected to a noisy announcer that sounds like us, screaming
crowds and flashing lights, against all his natural instincts. Ingrid

(24:09):
goes on to say, if approached in his natural habitat,
Phil would run away in fear, not volunteer to live
year round in captivity, unable to do anything that's natural
and important to him, like hybrid eight or burrow, just
to be a town's once a year fake meteorologist.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Do you know what Candlenus commemorates.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
The burning of candles made from the juices of groundhogs.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
No, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
It commemorates the presentation of Jesus at the temple by
Joseph and Mary. It's a different that's a very different,
very different. Maybe if you're dogged and eat your Bible,
I would. We could have we could have gotten real
work done.

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