August 11, 2022 • 39 mins
In hour 1 on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, and Jonas Knox take a trip down memory lane to start the show in the spirit of the NFL preseason as LaVar and Brady share their experiences learning new playbooks. Plus, another edition of In Case You Missed It!
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you are making us a part of heresday morning. Berno,
you're a scumbag and a half. We're going to take
you all the way up until nine am Eastern Time,
and started looking like a little kid, the weirdest little
dip man it is. He'd be looking up looking like
a ten year old. Yeah, it's just class act. So
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so hey, what's happening? Hey, Happy Thursday? Alright, alright, how's
everybody feeling? Huh? Fired up? Excited? I kind of say something.
I was thinking about the Hard Knocks because I know
we opened up talking about it yesterday and the eight
and Hudson Billie Jean thing, and I was like, I'm
not I'm not going to go that far because that's
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like more your aisle. But it was it was overblown
like it was. It was good, It wasn't that great
Like I've I've seen some some guys perform that I've
been like that dude's talented. That was not what I
came away with after watching it. And Hutchinson before Billy Jean,
what was what was a rememberable performance you can think of?
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Oh man, we had this offensive Lineman. To this day,
I will never forget it. But he did a rap
and he like he just freestyle, but he talked about
he would talk about that's that fat boy magic. He
talked about how like offensive Lineman could like what they
do and they get what they want all these different things,
and they're like, because that's that fat boy magic and
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I will never forget it. He had the entire room
rolling like it was one of the funniest things I've
ever seen in my life. We had a couple of
guys that you could just sing like flat out had
amazing voices. Soon yes, like I mean better, dancing better,
singing better, like every thing. So that's why I'm like, look,
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I get it. Hard Knocks is back. Um, he's going
to be a great player. He's going to be a
leader on that team. And in that moment, like it's
awesome they're highlighting him. He he's vulnerable, he puts himself
out there. He's I get all of it. It's just like,
my god, we are really blowing this thing up, like
really blowing it up, like all of a sudden, He's
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gonna be on Dancing with the Stars after this year
because of this Billy Jean performance. So you're you're confident
he's going to be a great player. Oh yeah. You
know what's funny. I was thinking about it after watching
all that because I was like, you know, I get it.
But the interesting thing is when I watched his tape,
I kept thinking of myself. The only thing that makes
me even second guess, like what he's going to be
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in the NFL is when he was one of Michigan uniform,
it wasn't wear in Ohio state uniform, Like like if
it was, it was like Joey Bosa and Nick Bosa
Chase Young, we go, yeah, we're like, oh, we're used
to that, Like we're just not used to sing a
Michigan edge defender like that. And I think, like, that's
what this dude is. Man, he's he he moves so
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well for how big he is. Like that's what you
underestimate is when you see him. He doesn't look like
he's like six ft six. He's like six ft. I mean,
he moves unbelievable for that size. So I think he's
gonna be great. He is a throwback player for certain
I mean I love his game. I love his his
his motor is always running. It's all high. Yeah, he's
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his motor, his motor, his motor. It's perfect that he
would end up in a place that I thought you
were going a different DMA. Like I meant like, he's
got a great technique. Oh the whole hit the button deal.
People people love doing that though. J. J. Watt T
J Watt look at their form. Oh my god, their
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fundamentals are amazing. Then then you see somebody like uh
da fe Way look at lab leticisms. Oh my gosh,
he's just a better athlete than everyone else, Like what Way?
Hold on? They look exactly the same coming off of
the edge of except for one thing. Patrick Willis is
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such an amazing Look at the athleticism. Luke Kickley, Oh
my gosh, he just diagnosed everything. He looked at the
offensive coordinator, he looked at the then he looked at
the quarterback. And I just mean, he just told everybody
what was going on. Man, Like they did the same
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exact thing. But I don't know which one is more offensive,
the saying that the dude is more intelligent with less
athletic ability, or the guy has more athletic ability and
less and football. I really don't know which one is
more offensive. What would you rather be coming out of
Penn State? If the if you, I really don't know. Again,
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I really don't know, because if you look at it,
you're doing their doing the same exact thing. Luke Kickley
slips blocks that Luke Kickley anticipates because he's got an
idea what the offense is trying to do so do
guys like Pat Willis. So it's kind of like, I
don't know, you know what I mean, Like, so, would
you rather have both have abs? They both have muscles
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like you know, I mean, I don't know, you could
have they have feet, you know, they have cool looking
uniforms on, like they look good in their unis. Like
I don't know. You could have one combination or the other.
You could have high football hike you and high motor
or explosive and freakish athletic ability. Would you rather have?
I don't know. Man, come I'll answer that because I
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don't have any of those. And I would say the
ladder because here's here's the difference. It's like you'll always
have an opportunity somewhere. Um, I remember remember Barkivous Mingo,
Oh yeah, yeah, he was the edge player out of Bama.
He was, I mean, freakishly athletic. He could never ver
hang on anywhere, but he was so athletic and he
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was good enough where he he kind of found a
niche on special teams, which like that's usually what ends
up happening some guys who like can't I can't figure
out the scheme of the NFL, or find a spot
where they fit. You know, they kind of become like
depth and then they become a core special teamers. Like
if you could run, hit, you know, elude people and
like makes make some things happen on special teams or
be one of the core guys who makes a tackle,
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you can have a long career. And there's there's guys
like that that when they have that sort of athleticism,
that ability, they get to play for a long a
long time basically until they probably priced themselves out because
the NFL p A wanted to put in a veteran minimum,
which you know, it's always interesting to me to your point,
Mingo have played for six teams in his career right
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over how many years? Seven? Yeah, but and he was
he's fully vested. He was a first round pick, right
but he and he kept getting opportunities because of some
of that athleticism. And by the way, we've seen other
guy like really just keep getting opportunities because they're so athletic.
I mean, I'm not saying like Josh Gordon, you know,
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should have been suspended for as long as he has
been in all the issues that he faced. A lot
of opportunities. Yeah, I mean, and it was because one
year he led Leger receiving and he's got that sort
of ability or at least you know, people think he does.
Like that's the other thing too. It's not even like
like people will be able to be like, oh, yes,
you know, I talked to him. He's a high football
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IQ guy. You tell a good technique. But like people
would just be like, yeah, but look at this guy.
Look at this guy on tape, like he's a freak athlete.
Like even if you aren't, you show once on tape,
they're like, Oh, he's got that in him somewhere. You know,
we'll bring it out. I forgot that a barkibis amingo.
You want a super Bowl? He was at the Patriots.
Who was on that? Yeah, I think the two sixteen Wow.
Good for him. But that wasn't where he was drafted.
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He ended up going there because that was like Bill
Belichick's thing. Like Bill Belichick would like build his roster
full like former guys who like were first round picks
obviously they have they have a lot of Bill and
then he would like bring them in and they'd all
like end up playing you know, some role good for him,
man little BARKEEPI s mingo, how about that BARKEEPI smingo
making an appearance both, you know, if I was really like,
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if you really break down NFL players by position, I
think more often than not, like probably the vast majority
of guys that you see starting have to be freakishly
athletic and have to be have to be exercising a
high football like you like, if we're really like being
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serious about it, like if you're breaking it down by
every team not and I'm not just talking the good teams,
I'm talking even the horrible teams. The amount of football
acumen like intelligence intellect as it applies to the game
is probably there's probably a vast majority of guys that
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actually are both rather than the other you think us
why So That's why I think it's why it's so
interesting when you come across the guy that really is
like not intelligent at all, like really like like very
very underdeveloped in terms of how they intellectually are able
to handle things. I think that that those become bigger
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conversations because there's it's so far and few in between
where you come across somebody who really, like you know,
struggles to speak or can't read or something to that effect.
Where it's extreme. I think it's more extreme when you
come across players like that, like how do you play
that many levels of football and not acquire some sort
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of intelligence. It's on another level than anybody else could
possibly have that doesn't I would say youth league. I
would say in college more so. It starts more so
in college. It can hit you in high school. I
think it's certain positions in high school, but in college
everyone has to show that they have some type of
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intellect to be able to get on the field. It's
very few guys like you could say, okay a defensive lineman,
but a defensive lineman has to understand the different calls,
like the different stunts, where the blitzes are coming from.
And and ultimately you see the ones that have really
really high i q s. The way they play play
place like are you a CBR player? And somebody who
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doesn't have real intellect, they'd be like, what is a
CBR player? Like the ball is snapped, I'm going to
get the ball. But smart players they know cut back,
boot reverse, like you play it slow, the ball goes
away from me. I know, intellectually speaking, my responsibility is
to stay at home, play it slow, moved down the line.
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It might be a naked boot you know, it might
be a reverse, so I gotta play it slow. Like
when you start to see people do certain things where
it's like athletically speaking, you'll see that backside defensive end
go flying down field and make the tackle on the
other side of the field. And while layman terms, you're like,
oh my gosh, look at the athleticism of that guy
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to be able to run down that play. But in reality,
that was not intellectually football smart to do that because
you abandon your rules. You go to make that play.
The next time they run a bootleg or reverse, now
you're not there, there's no edge, and you see a
sixty seventy yard play take place because of one person,
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you know, leaving their their responsibilities. So I mean, I
think you have more guys actually, you know, in the
in the game of football that are intelligent in terms
of playing the game of football. I don't know about
off the field, but within the parameters of what football presents,
I think you have a lot of intelligent, freakish athletes
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that I mean, you gotta be a freak athlete, even
if you're not, say, if you want to go a
step further, Like I think that that make your body
do the things you do, Like you gotta have a
certain intelligence to do that, Like regardless of I don't
care if you can read or whatever else. If you
can can run and you can move and you can jump,
and you can do all those things the way you can,
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your body naturally has some sort of higher intelligence to
do that, especially at a fast pace. To me, that
it's like its own type of intelligence. Will they building
a move like we're beating we're beating a dead horse
at this point, but we've lost. That's what we were though,
you know what I mean, Like, that's what we were.
So it's kind of cool to like make light of
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it because that's you just know what type of athlete
you have to be to be able to make it
to the league. So when Brady told me about learning
new offenses, I remember him saying, and you've mentioned this
on the show before, it's like learning a completely different
language every single time. So how many different languages did
you have to learn during your career? Like if we're
asking me, oh god, let's see, obviously our first offense,
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but got the Cleveland. UM, so that was like based
on Don Crayle's three digit system. I had that for
two years. The year three of us an entirely different
system that was that. That was tough because we were
like because it because it was Brian Dable at that time,
and he was he basically made his own offense. He
was using stuff that he took from the Jets where
he came from, and then the New England Patriots, which
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was um that Charlie Y's Josh McDaniel system, and then
he was literally like blending it and then calling it
like his own stuff. So you had to kind of
refresh everything, memorize that. And then the next year I
was with Josh mc daniel, so ide familiarity with it,
but he called it and then they kind of ran
a little a lot different than what I had in college.
So I wouldn't sad to learn that one so much.
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But technically that'd be three and like four years. The
next year, um, Josh, because Josh McDaniel gets fired, we
keep our offense coordinator, Mike McCoy, but we we kind
of tweaked the offense again some of the things he's
more familiar with, so I wouldn't count that. Uh year six,
I I go back with Brian Dable. Now he's he's
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incorporated West Coast, so now it's like he had his
own offense that he had, but then when a whole
Himgreen got there, then he put in all these West
Coast deals, so that was tweaked a little bit too.
So there's a little bit of learning about quite as much.
Uh year seven was straight like different West Coast that
I hadn't been through since my first two years of
college with Daryl Bevil. And then I got released by
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the Seahawks. I got picked up immediately by the Jets.
Now same system West Coast, so like you can kind
of know the terminology. But Marty Morning was like kept
all of the old terms, Like remember all the terms
you'd hear from like John Gruden on Hard Knocks or
TV would he'd be like he's like zip over to
a triple right Z backfly scat z, like like basically
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every single player in the offense has a word incorporating
the calls so they know what they're doing. Um, that
all got stripped out, so like West Coast doesn't even
like that anymore. And Marty Morning wink still in an
offense that was like that. So that was basically like
learning a new West Coast system. And then I ended
up um halfway through that season going with the Rams,
and then Brian Schodheimer had but kind of back to
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my first couple of years more of like the three
digit system, but that was even different. Like, for example,
if you had a run play to the right, you
wouldn't call the cadence in the huddle, like you just
automatically knew it was on two because it was an
even number, and if it was still left, I was
on one, which is like a weird little nuances to
stuff where like you have for entire life always told
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the offensive line and everyone what the count is, Like,
what the cadence? It's on one, it's on a quick count,
you know, double cadence, you know, on too hard to
like you've always told them that, and then this system,
like you don't say anything, you said the play call,
you go the line, it's like oh yeah, Like like
I would almost have to remind myself like, oh yeah,
it's it's it's on one. Oh it's on two, it's
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to the right. And then in past plays it would
be based on which way the protection was set, so
that was a bit of a learning processes as well.
So you're up to like almost a ten different quote
unquote languages in the amount of time you played in
the NFL. Man, I I can't even I barely know
Spanish and my wife's Mexican. Like I can't. I have
know the idea that you have to learn that much,
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which I think just goes to show you if Baker
Mayfield does win this job from Sam Donald and Carolina,
pretty pretty impressive on Baker Mayfield, are pretty damning on
Sam Donald. Yeah, like just the fact that he just
got there and he's already figuring out this offense, this
new language so to speak. I don't know, man like
that is. I'd be out, Oh I gotta learn this again. Yeah,
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I'm gonna go ahead and quit. I there's no there's
no chance I could possibly figure that out. Also, and
by the way, apply that new language in the heat
of the moment, in real time with a split second thing,
and instruct ten other guys to be able to speak
the language that I just learned myself. I mean I
couldn't do it. I'm out. That's why it honestly like
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takes a while, and it's usually while when we start
moving around, things don't work out. You know, when you
when like Peyton Manning goes to Denver, he wasn't running
their offense. Here's running his offense like like like that
was one of the biggest things when he got there.
He's like, I'm gonna run the offense that I want
to run because for all those years he's been successful,
he was a Hall of Fame player coming out of Indy.
You're gonna make him run something else. I mean, even
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when Todd Brady got down to down to Tampa, like
we kept hearing all it's, you know, Bruce arians he's
running that. No he's not. He's gonna do exactly and
use the same terminology and everything else he's done so
he feels comfortable. So you can teach everyone else to
work with everyone else. I mean, I can promise you
Nathaniel Hackett, Russell Wilson, they're doing that in Denver, Like
they might tweak some stuff, but they're working together. They're
doing they're gonna do what he feels most comfortable with
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because he's the one on the field needs to do that.
Otherwise there's gonna be a big learning curve and he's
gonna struggle. But that's not the case because those guys
are solidified enough where everyone else will adapt to them.
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can't you feel it? Can't you feel it? Watch that
as you say yeah to like metal music, like come on, yeah,
how about it? Yeah? North Hills High Man, North Hills
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High and Dublin Coffman on a Zoom call back in
the late nineties early two thousand's. Is this Mortal Kombat
dual power cleans on screen? What is this? Little Ramstein
do host? Oh yeah, I hear it now, yeah hear it.
Wasn't here in it for a second. I'm like a
little German techno metal Awake the morning? Is this? Is this?
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The dance and Viking? This? I think I went to
like like one of those bars that's like all Ice
one time, and they're playing there because you never you
hear music and it takes you right back to like
a moment. It reminds you of something. I will never
forget hearing this and like the bar being like all Ice,
and I was like, what is this? Yeah? It's great, man,
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I've seen them live before. Great band live. Yeah that's
not surprising. Yeah, a lot of it's a poet. This
guy lead singer. How about don't uh so listen to him?
Great great poet? What you're right here? You know what
he's saying right now. I don't care um Hills, that's
that's ten dollars. But I'm with him. Hammer Hammers, Hammers strength,
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it is too prosy, Hammer Hammers better believe it. Uh,
two pros and a cup of Joe Here Fox Sports Rade,
Yeah here que sneaking in there though, did you? You didn't?
You didn't even Hammers? No, I heard him? Yeah, what
do you say? Can't pay it up? I still have
to make my donation for I'm not gonna hold you.
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It was so good too, because you slid it in there,
so so like stealthy. He didn't even you know Jonas
Jonas didn't catch it. Well. I mean, it's as kind
as he was yesterday on social media to me. I mean,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna call him out on
was it work Wife? You're the work wife radio Radio WI.
But the problem is you guys can have side pieces
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and radio, but I can't. Like that's what's a double standard.
But side piast I have on radio? Well, you get
big new kick off a right, what does that even mean?
It's your weekly appearances on Dan Patrick show. That's I
haven't done that And God knows how long. Yeah, because
I think he felt guilty about it. How I would
love to know how I have side pieces up on Game.
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No no, no, no, no no, because I was doing
but I was doing up one game before you got
hold On, hold On, It's got a secret fan up
on Game gave me the opportunity to be sitting here
with you guys like I was doing that show for
a while before, exactly technically, so technically you guys are
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the side pieces technically because I had I had to
use Well, I'm your side piece though, because you guys
were together, right, so you first, you guys were together
first for what five years? I was with with t
J and Plex for less just less than a year.
T J and Plex are your radio wise, So basically
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what you just said on the air was that if
we're talking about they're not my wives, we're a radio home.
What what you just said on the air was that
you've got double families, and you pick and choose, and
so you you will open gifts in the morning on
Christmas with t J and Plex, and then you just
stop by and say hi later to Brady and I.
That's where we fall. That's kind of not true. It's
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not true. You know, it's racis. They get the dinner,
you know, it takes them out to dinner, win them.
We get the left over. You know, it was a
little bit left we we we were here you coming
home to a little bit of their masters. When I
was in when I was in Iowa City and I
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was hanging out, my my little bro and I were
at the bar and we was we was hitting towards
you know, like grown grown ass uh, two pros uh,
you know, euphoria. And he had to go, and he
had to go and and and at the other dinner
where I thought i'd see him at. None of the
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main dudes on the show showed up to that dinner.
So I was there by myself, which was fine. I
mean I got with the production, like you really want
me to get you right now, It's actually the other
way around. We were all out of dinner and you
were not there. So I don't know what the hell
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you're talking. Everyone literally everyone kept asking, it's LaVar gonna
make this. I don't know. I was got texted. I
don't I don't know anything about that dinner. I think
I would to bid, I think I would to bid. Yeah,
I'm old, not as old as Stoopsie, but I clearly
saw what time he was on. I was walking down
the street, he was walking with his entourage. I was like,
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stoops as home, like he was walking down the street.
He's like, yeah, he was, he was. He was moving around.
So he's got two stomping grounds. He's got norm and
he's got he's got a man. He's just loved like
Bob Stups, just loved by everyone and anyone who spent
time around him. You see why, because he's just he's
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a he's just a good, good human being. And uh
he's you know, pleasure pleasure to like work with, talk
football with, tell stories with. He's just a good dude,
he really is. What did he make of I think
you gotta pay what a couple hundred thousand dollars just
for that one bowl game he coached? And he didn't
want to accept it, like the athletic director at Oklahoma
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made him accept it. He was adamant. He's like, no,
no, no no, no, no, you can't do this and not
accept anything. So I don't know how they ended up
working it out, but he was. He was a harder
percent against it, which again just goes to show you
like that man's heart, you know, like he just does
things out of the goodness of his heart. He doesn't
even look for anything around. Jonas gave us scratch offs
(25:54):
for Christmas and and a dope as bottle of tequila,
which was good, by the way. Long did that last?
By the way? Uh? Not long? I think when we
opened it was gone. That day he sent me a
box for Boss Hogs old poop. Because if you put
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it in the box and you mail it from California,
when it gets to all the way across the country
seven days later, that puppies thought out, Yeah, you want
to know what's crazy about that story? When I was
planning for make Sure the Gummy Cranks, by the way,
I appreciate it, whoa whoa class act. When I was
playing for Washington, somebody actually sent me Pooh on a
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wooden football field paint at the football field the hash
marks everything, and it had on it. It had like
a little thing the tag on it and it was
like you are a piece of and it had real
I don't know what they did with it, how they like,
you can really, but the way they did it, they
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were able to harden it up and connected to the
wooden field platform that they created for it. Not that
was very creative, but at some point like, uh, that's crap,
I mean real, like I opened it up, like there
it is. That was the gift. That was the gift,
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and there was a note signed this Everything was very short.
You are they want me to sign it that I'm
a piece of s with the on the on the
wood Who gave you that? I don't know, So I
just mysteriously showed up you like if you could imagine,
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I used to get fan mail to the tune of
probably probably like two moving boxes worth in like weeks time,
like a week's time. Yeah, who doesn't get that? I mean,
come on, I'm just saying you and and some of
the stuff that you see, some of the stuff that
you get to do when you're good at football is
pretty interesting. Like like if if there's like at least
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two or three people walking this earth, hopefully they're still alive.
They weren't very old, but they you know, they that
they shouldn't be too old. They should still be here.
But my my signature is on their cleavage tattooed. I'm
not like, I'm not like a rock star or anything
like that. But so I used to always tell people
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I don't sign skin. You know, I don't sign skin.
Like i'll sign your your stuff. I'll sign some pretty
interesting things that I know you're not gonna keep. Like
i'll sign your your napkin, that's all you have. Okay,
I'll sign your napkin, you know, no worries, But I'm
not signing your skin. And I said, my only, my
only way, the only time I would ever sign your
skin is if you're actually gonna get a tattooed on.
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If you're gonna get it tattooed on, you're committed to
this autograph like that and it's not a like a
thing in the moment right now, then I'll do it.
And if you have a long name too, so they
would probably need to be a big Well, what's crazy
is back then I used to sign my name LaVar Arrington.
Yeah it's l Arrington now, but back then, so somebody's boob.
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It's probably like whether the Storm of Life had kids
breast fed all kinds of stuff. So what are you
trying to say about that? I don't know, hanging out,
I mean when when when I signed it, it was
a whole lot of space to sign my signature. I'll
say that a few times that I've been down to
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side now now you'd have been down to side of
yeah you or or where it's at is probably near
the navel. It's probably a navel tattoo tattoo. That's a
good point. It went from being uh, cleavage tattooed to uh,
I wonder what Eddie Garcia thinks about that? A transition
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will say that the other ones though, we're probably not
going to ever fall down because well they were, you know,
position that way. It's not real out here. It's not
they were. It wasn't real out here. It wasn't real
and feel real fake ones out there. Let me tell
you something. If I was ever gonna get they were nice.
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If I was ever going to get my breast tattooed
with a name and be the one and only Edmund
Garcia twenty plus years of excellence on the mic. How
about it, Eddie? How about it? How about it? Jonas?
Eddie's like, no way, hey, Eddie, how's the show going
today for us? So we're got a little all over
the place, so it's unpredictable. It's not a bad thing.
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Would you be excited if somebody asked you to signature
their cleavage. Honestly, just true. It would depend on the
cleavage exactly. See, you're right there with me. I reserved
the right to decline. You know what I mean. I
think that's what within your right. Would you sign it
ed Eddie or Edmund Garcia? Again, it would depend on
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the cleveland and would you take your time or would
it be very quick? Once again, it was it was
something I felt needed to take my time with, I
would do so. If not, I would probably just do
like an e and then like a wine bawn. Yeah. Done,
out of there. Smack, you can get out of there.
You're done. I'm talking about me the rest of the day.
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top of next hour here on fs ARE. But right
now it's time for something we do every single morning
at this time on the show, and it's called this.
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing. The guys are here to
bring you in case you missed it. And leadal Lap
is still traveling. He's somewhere in the Mediterranean, sending us
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random He's deep between the mountains. Yeah, yeah, the valley,
sending us Hey, though I walk through the Valley of
the Shadow of Death, I sell fear, no cracks in
the valley, sending us weird pictures he sees on a
our wall, just very odd so ly will be back
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hopefully at some point. But in his place, did you
catch that? Okay, he was part of that. He knows, uh.
He knows. Yeah, Yeah, he was going guns up as
soon as the show started to come, he knows. Um,
his finger was ready to hit that button, that dump button.
By the way, Ricky Herrera is going to be in
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for a lead to laugh the next couple of days.
So Ricky, what do we got? Ricky? Guys? In case
he missed it, forty Niners head coach Kyle Shanahan and
is not happy with the NFL's new rule regarding his
preference of sideline attire. The league will not let him
wear the hat he wants this coming season. The left
to choose between some new hats the league is providing
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because he's got those flatbillers. He's a flatbill guy. You know,
I like flat bills. Yeah, what what do you mean?
He I guess they're just they're they're planning. Why would
he not be able to wear the hat he was. Yeah,
there was no further explanation given rick just they have
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a two they have two different ones that they have
a sort of a contract that he would wear an
official sideline hat. Yeah, they made it especially for him,
and it was like the Kyle Shannon hat because he's
a big flatbill guy and that was a lot, like
how arians was right because he wore a kangle? Did
he wear Kangles one? Yeah? I think so. Yeah, I don't.
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I don't know that they were on the sideline. Maybe
he didn't wear them on the sideline. I don't. I
know what you're saying. That's what he used to love
to wear. Like, I guess you're so used to seeing
them in a kangle, you know, why couldn't What would
be the problem with Kyle Shannon wearing a hat? The
amount of money that that company that's going official sideline hat. Yeah,
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I get it, but New Era can't have an official
Kyle Shannah and Sideline hat that some people like. It
feels like they should have their own deal with them.
But it might be a deal for the specific hat
that he would want to wear, but it's not the
specific hat that he wants to wear. If that made
any sense. That didn't make any sense. In other words,
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he might not like that brand, even though it might
be the same style hat. Yeah, he said he doesn't
like the hats. The choices like the look or the
feel like it's a comfort thing. But the curved bility
doesn't want to curve ability wants a flatbill. You know,
I know, I got a big hit. So if that
hat ain't right, it ain't gonna fit right, it ain't
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gonna feel right, which means that it totally alters the performance.
The biggest size that you can get. I mean, what's
that one? That one's a fitted hat? What does he say?
It's his LaVar? That's that's that's kind of big. I'm
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just saying. I'm just saying I stopped in a different
different part of the owl than you. You know what
I mean? That's all John Mine has a gold tag
on it. I know what I mean. If you know
what I mean, I got a gold tag on my hat.
I know what you mean. It's like a windsock. No, sorry, Ricky?
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What else? Oh? I needed that lab? That is funny.
That's funny, Oh, Ricky. Ricky's back. Ricky's back. Guys, wicket
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pretty Rickett. In case he missed it, man, hurry up, man,
hurry up, hurry up. In case you missed it, guys.
(37:25):
Wide receiver Deon Deonte Johnson is being blasted by fans
for not showing up to his own UH sponsored training
camp by flex Works Sports Youth camp Man. He skipped
his youth camp. I mean, he just got paid. This
is just a bad look all the way through. I mean, yeah,
d dollar admission fee. They were supposed to see Deonte
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Johnson and then he doesn't even show up. I mean,
so who they send in in place of him? Did?
Did they send uh a Chase Claypool or anybody like that?
Or is this just you guys never skipped a youth
camp that you were to be to be featured, not
one that I set up. Yeah, I mean that somebody
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is is misrepresenting him. That would be a horrible thing
if they made him, you know, the kind of the
highlight of the camp, and he didn't really know about
him having to be there. So apparently they're in the lawsuit,
it claims that thirteen minutes before the start of camp,
one of Johnson's agents texted to say that he his
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flight had been canceled and he would be arriving later
than planned, And then later the agent informed them that
Johnson had decided he didn't want to wait around for
another flight, so it wouldn't be coming. So there's that look.
I mean, when all else fails, blame it on the airline.
The airlines have been making it a little difficult but
somebody's unexpected delays and cancelation. I know what. Brady has
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had nothing but kind things to say about his airline experiences,
So I don't know what. I know what you mean.
I got a flat against it. Hey, well, this kid
was and all that. It'll be disaster us likely that'll
be That'll be our two and a half year old.
She is like kind of my favorite right now, just
the way her personality is. But man, when she hits
a switch, it's like there is no consoling her. I
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mean like flight attendants come over and they're like, oh, go, whoa, Okay,
I'll let me just bring back right off that, Like
they want no part of that. Trying to deal with
her on the plane. Was that the one that you
com compared to the hurt locker? Was that trying to
carry her at Yeah? Like yeah. In the restaurant, everyone's
cheering for me, like, thank you, thank you for giving
your mother here.
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you are making us a part of heresday morning. Berno,
you're a scumbag and a half. We're going to take
you all the way up until nine am Eastern Time,
and started looking like a little kid, the weirdest little
dip man it is. He'd be looking up looking like
a ten year old. Yeah, it's just class act. So
(01:37):
so hey, what's happening? Hey, Happy Thursday? Alright, alright, how's
everybody feeling? Huh? Fired up? Excited? I kind of say something.
I was thinking about the Hard Knocks because I know
we opened up talking about it yesterday and the eight
and Hudson Billie Jean thing, and I was like, I'm
not I'm not going to go that far because that's
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like more your aisle. But it was it was overblown
like it was. It was good, It wasn't that great
Like I've I've seen some some guys perform that I've
been like that dude's talented. That was not what I
came away with after watching it. And Hutchinson before Billy Jean,
what was what was a rememberable performance you can think of?
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Oh man, we had this offensive Lineman. To this day,
I will never forget it. But he did a rap
and he like he just freestyle, but he talked about
he would talk about that's that fat boy magic. He
talked about how like offensive Lineman could like what they
do and they get what they want all these different things,
and they're like, because that's that fat boy magic and
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I will never forget it. He had the entire room
rolling like it was one of the funniest things I've
ever seen in my life. We had a couple of
guys that you could just sing like flat out had
amazing voices. Soon yes, like I mean better, dancing better,
singing better, like every thing. So that's why I'm like, look,
(03:01):
I get it. Hard Knocks is back. Um, he's going
to be a great player. He's going to be a
leader on that team. And in that moment, like it's
awesome they're highlighting him. He he's vulnerable, he puts himself
out there. He's I get all of it. It's just like,
my god, we are really blowing this thing up, like
really blowing it up, like all of a sudden, He's
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gonna be on Dancing with the Stars after this year
because of this Billy Jean performance. So you're you're confident
he's going to be a great player. Oh yeah. You
know what's funny. I was thinking about it after watching
all that because I was like, you know, I get it.
But the interesting thing is when I watched his tape,
I kept thinking of myself. The only thing that makes
me even second guess, like what he's going to be
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in the NFL is when he was one of Michigan uniform,
it wasn't wear in Ohio state uniform, Like like if
it was, it was like Joey Bosa and Nick Bosa
Chase Young, we go, yeah, we're like, oh, we're used
to that, Like we're just not used to sing a
Michigan edge defender like that. And I think, like, that's
what this dude is. Man, he's he he moves so
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well for how big he is. Like that's what you
underestimate is when you see him. He doesn't look like
he's like six ft six. He's like six ft. I mean,
he moves unbelievable for that size. So I think he's
gonna be great. He is a throwback player for certain
I mean I love his game. I love his his
his motor is always running. It's all high. Yeah, he's
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his motor, his motor, his motor. It's perfect that he
would end up in a place that I thought you
were going a different DMA. Like I meant like, he's
got a great technique. Oh the whole hit the button deal.
People people love doing that though. J. J. Watt T
J Watt look at their form. Oh my god, their
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fundamentals are amazing. Then then you see somebody like uh
da fe Way look at lab leticisms. Oh my gosh,
he's just a better athlete than everyone else, Like what Way?
Hold on? They look exactly the same coming off of
the edge of except for one thing. Patrick Willis is
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such an amazing Look at the athleticism. Luke Kickley, Oh
my gosh, he just diagnosed everything. He looked at the
offensive coordinator, he looked at the then he looked at
the quarterback. And I just mean, he just told everybody
what was going on. Man, Like they did the same
(05:35):
exact thing. But I don't know which one is more offensive,
the saying that the dude is more intelligent with less
athletic ability, or the guy has more athletic ability and
less and football. I really don't know which one is
more offensive. What would you rather be coming out of
Penn State? If the if you, I really don't know. Again,
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I really don't know, because if you look at it,
you're doing their doing the same exact thing. Luke Kickley
slips blocks that Luke Kickley anticipates because he's got an
idea what the offense is trying to do so do
guys like Pat Willis. So it's kind of like, I
don't know, you know what I mean, Like, so, would
you rather have both have abs? They both have muscles
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like you know, I mean, I don't know, you could
have they have feet, you know, they have cool looking
uniforms on, like they look good in their unis. Like
I don't know. You could have one combination or the other.
You could have high football hike you and high motor
or explosive and freakish athletic ability. Would you rather have?
I don't know. Man, come I'll answer that because I
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don't have any of those. And I would say the
ladder because here's here's the difference. It's like you'll always
have an opportunity somewhere. Um, I remember remember Barkivous Mingo,
Oh yeah, yeah, he was the edge player out of Bama.
He was, I mean, freakishly athletic. He could never ver
hang on anywhere, but he was so athletic and he
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was good enough where he he kind of found a
niche on special teams, which like that's usually what ends
up happening some guys who like can't I can't figure
out the scheme of the NFL, or find a spot
where they fit. You know, they kind of become like
depth and then they become a core special teamers. Like
if you could run, hit, you know, elude people and
like makes make some things happen on special teams or
be one of the core guys who makes a tackle,
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you can have a long career. And there's there's guys
like that that when they have that sort of athleticism,
that ability, they get to play for a long a
long time basically until they probably priced themselves out because
the NFL p A wanted to put in a veteran minimum,
which you know, it's always interesting to me to your point,
Mingo have played for six teams in his career right
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over how many years? Seven? Yeah, but and he was
he's fully vested. He was a first round pick, right
but he and he kept getting opportunities because of some
of that athleticism. And by the way, we've seen other
guy like really just keep getting opportunities because they're so athletic.
I mean, I'm not saying like Josh Gordon, you know,
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should have been suspended for as long as he has
been in all the issues that he faced. A lot
of opportunities. Yeah, I mean, and it was because one
year he led Leger receiving and he's got that sort
of ability or at least you know, people think he does.
Like that's the other thing too. It's not even like
like people will be able to be like, oh, yes,
you know, I talked to him. He's a high football
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IQ guy. You tell a good technique. But like people
would just be like, yeah, but look at this guy.
Look at this guy on tape, like he's a freak athlete.
Like even if you aren't, you show once on tape,
they're like, Oh, he's got that in him somewhere. You know,
we'll bring it out. I forgot that a barkibis amingo.
You want a super Bowl? He was at the Patriots.
Who was on that? Yeah, I think the two sixteen Wow.
Good for him. But that wasn't where he was drafted.
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He ended up going there because that was like Bill
Belichick's thing. Like Bill Belichick would like build his roster
full like former guys who like were first round picks
obviously they have they have a lot of Bill and
then he would like bring them in and they'd all
like end up playing you know, some role good for him,
man little BARKEEPI s mingo, how about that BARKEEPI smingo
making an appearance both, you know, if I was really like,
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if you really break down NFL players by position, I
think more often than not, like probably the vast majority
of guys that you see starting have to be freakishly
athletic and have to be have to be exercising a
high football like you like, if we're really like being
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serious about it, like if you're breaking it down by
every team not and I'm not just talking the good teams,
I'm talking even the horrible teams. The amount of football
acumen like intelligence intellect as it applies to the game
is probably there's probably a vast majority of guys that
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actually are both rather than the other you think us
why So That's why I think it's why it's so
interesting when you come across the guy that really is
like not intelligent at all, like really like like very
very underdeveloped in terms of how they intellectually are able
to handle things. I think that that those become bigger
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conversations because there's it's so far and few in between
where you come across somebody who really, like you know,
struggles to speak or can't read or something to that effect.
Where it's extreme. I think it's more extreme when you
come across players like that, like how do you play
that many levels of football and not acquire some sort
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of intelligence. It's on another level than anybody else could
possibly have that doesn't I would say youth league. I
would say in college more so. It starts more so
in college. It can hit you in high school. I
think it's certain positions in high school, but in college
everyone has to show that they have some type of
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intellect to be able to get on the field. It's
very few guys like you could say, okay a defensive lineman,
but a defensive lineman has to understand the different calls,
like the different stunts, where the blitzes are coming from.
And and ultimately you see the ones that have really
really high i q s. The way they play play
place like are you a CBR player? And somebody who
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doesn't have real intellect, they'd be like, what is a
CBR player? Like the ball is snapped, I'm going to
get the ball. But smart players they know cut back,
boot reverse, like you play it slow, the ball goes
away from me. I know, intellectually speaking, my responsibility is
to stay at home, play it slow, moved down the line.
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It might be a naked boot you know, it might
be a reverse, so I gotta play it slow. Like
when you start to see people do certain things where
it's like athletically speaking, you'll see that backside defensive end
go flying down field and make the tackle on the
other side of the field. And while layman terms, you're like,
oh my gosh, look at the athleticism of that guy
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to be able to run down that play. But in reality,
that was not intellectually football smart to do that because
you abandon your rules. You go to make that play.
The next time they run a bootleg or reverse, now
you're not there, there's no edge, and you see a
sixty seventy yard play take place because of one person,
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you know, leaving their their responsibilities. So I mean, I
think you have more guys actually, you know, in the
in the game of football that are intelligent in terms
of playing the game of football. I don't know about
off the field, but within the parameters of what football presents,
I think you have a lot of intelligent, freakish athletes
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that I mean, you gotta be a freak athlete, even
if you're not, say, if you want to go a
step further, Like I think that that make your body
do the things you do, Like you gotta have a
certain intelligence to do that, Like regardless of I don't
care if you can read or whatever else. If you
can can run and you can move and you can jump,
and you can do all those things the way you can,
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your body naturally has some sort of higher intelligence to
do that, especially at a fast pace. To me, that
it's like its own type of intelligence. Will they building
a move like we're beating we're beating a dead horse
at this point, but we've lost. That's what we were though,
you know what I mean, Like, that's what we were.
So it's kind of cool to like make light of
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it because that's you just know what type of athlete
you have to be to be able to make it
to the league. So when Brady told me about learning
new offenses, I remember him saying, and you've mentioned this
on the show before, it's like learning a completely different
language every single time. So how many different languages did
you have to learn during your career? Like if we're
asking me, oh god, let's see, obviously our first offense,
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but got the Cleveland. UM, so that was like based
on Don Crayle's three digit system. I had that for
two years. The year three of us an entirely different
system that was that. That was tough because we were
like because it because it was Brian Dable at that time,
and he was he basically made his own offense. He
was using stuff that he took from the Jets where
he came from, and then the New England Patriots, which
(14:14):
was um that Charlie Y's Josh McDaniel system, and then
he was literally like blending it and then calling it
like his own stuff. So you had to kind of
refresh everything, memorize that. And then the next year I
was with Josh mc daniel, so ide familiarity with it,
but he called it and then they kind of ran
a little a lot different than what I had in college.
So I wouldn't sad to learn that one so much.
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But technically that'd be three and like four years. The
next year, um, Josh, because Josh McDaniel gets fired, we
keep our offense coordinator, Mike McCoy, but we we kind
of tweaked the offense again some of the things he's
more familiar with, so I wouldn't count that. Uh year six,
I I go back with Brian Dable. Now he's he's
(14:55):
incorporated West Coast, so now it's like he had his
own offense that he had, but then when a whole
Himgreen got there, then he put in all these West
Coast deals, so that was tweaked a little bit too.
So there's a little bit of learning about quite as much.
Uh year seven was straight like different West Coast that
I hadn't been through since my first two years of
college with Daryl Bevil. And then I got released by
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the Seahawks. I got picked up immediately by the Jets.
Now same system West Coast, so like you can kind
of know the terminology. But Marty Morning was like kept
all of the old terms, Like remember all the terms
you'd hear from like John Gruden on Hard Knocks or
TV would he'd be like he's like zip over to
a triple right Z backfly scat z, like like basically
(15:42):
every single player in the offense has a word incorporating
the calls so they know what they're doing. Um, that
all got stripped out, so like West Coast doesn't even
like that anymore. And Marty Morning wink still in an
offense that was like that. So that was basically like
learning a new West Coast system. And then I ended
up um halfway through that season going with the Rams,
and then Brian Schodheimer had but kind of back to
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my first couple of years more of like the three
digit system, but that was even different. Like, for example,
if you had a run play to the right, you
wouldn't call the cadence in the huddle, like you just
automatically knew it was on two because it was an
even number, and if it was still left, I was
on one, which is like a weird little nuances to
stuff where like you have for entire life always told
(16:25):
the offensive line and everyone what the count is, Like,
what the cadence? It's on one, it's on a quick count,
you know, double cadence, you know, on too hard to
like you've always told them that, and then this system,
like you don't say anything, you said the play call,
you go the line, it's like oh yeah, Like like
I would almost have to remind myself like, oh yeah,
it's it's it's on one. Oh it's on two, it's
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to the right. And then in past plays it would
be based on which way the protection was set, so
that was a bit of a learning processes as well.
So you're up to like almost a ten different quote
unquote languages in the amount of time you played in
the NFL. Man, I I can't even I barely know
Spanish and my wife's Mexican. Like I can't. I have
know the idea that you have to learn that much,
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which I think just goes to show you if Baker
Mayfield does win this job from Sam Donald and Carolina,
pretty pretty impressive on Baker Mayfield, are pretty damning on
Sam Donald. Yeah, like just the fact that he just
got there and he's already figuring out this offense, this
new language so to speak. I don't know, man like
that is. I'd be out, Oh I gotta learn this again. Yeah,
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I'm gonna go ahead and quit. I there's no there's
no chance I could possibly figure that out. Also, and
by the way, apply that new language in the heat
of the moment, in real time with a split second thing,
and instruct ten other guys to be able to speak
the language that I just learned myself. I mean I
couldn't do it. I'm out. That's why it honestly like
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takes a while, and it's usually while when we start
moving around, things don't work out. You know, when you
when like Peyton Manning goes to Denver, he wasn't running
their offense. Here's running his offense like like like that
was one of the biggest things when he got there.
He's like, I'm gonna run the offense that I want
to run because for all those years he's been successful,
he was a Hall of Fame player coming out of Indy.
You're gonna make him run something else. I mean, even
(18:10):
when Todd Brady got down to down to Tampa, like
we kept hearing all it's, you know, Bruce arians he's
running that. No he's not. He's gonna do exactly and
use the same terminology and everything else he's done so
he feels comfortable. So you can teach everyone else to
work with everyone else. I mean, I can promise you
Nathaniel Hackett, Russell Wilson, they're doing that in Denver, Like
they might tweak some stuff, but they're working together. They're
doing they're gonna do what he feels most comfortable with
(18:33):
because he's the one on the field needs to do that.
Otherwise there's gonna be a big learning curve and he's
gonna struggle. But that's not the case because those guys
are solidified enough where everyone else will adapt to them.
It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Rington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knocks at
the here. Coming up next, we do have a big
time game of chicken taking place in the NFL, and
(18:53):
we could get an answer in the next twenty four
to thirty six hours. We'll have that for you right
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Eastern three am Pacific. Hey, I'm Doug Gottlieb. The podcast
is called All Ball. We usually talk all basketball all
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the time, but it's more about the stories about what
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(19:44):
can't you feel it? Can't you feel it? Watch that
as you say yeah to like metal music, like come on, yeah,
how about it? Yeah? North Hills High Man, North Hills
(20:04):
High and Dublin Coffman on a Zoom call back in
the late nineties early two thousand's. Is this Mortal Kombat
dual power cleans on screen? What is this? Little Ramstein
do host? Oh yeah, I hear it now, yeah hear it.
Wasn't here in it for a second. I'm like a
little German techno metal Awake the morning? Is this? Is this?
(20:27):
The dance and Viking? This? I think I went to
like like one of those bars that's like all Ice
one time, and they're playing there because you never you
hear music and it takes you right back to like
a moment. It reminds you of something. I will never
forget hearing this and like the bar being like all Ice,
and I was like, what is this? Yeah? It's great, man,
(20:49):
I've seen them live before. Great band live. Yeah that's
not surprising. Yeah, a lot of it's a poet. This
guy lead singer. How about don't uh so listen to him?
Great great poet? What you're right here? You know what
he's saying right now. I don't care um Hills, that's
that's ten dollars. But I'm with him. Hammer Hammers, Hammers strength,
(21:14):
it is too prosy, Hammer Hammers better believe it. Uh,
two pros and a cup of Joe Here Fox Sports Rade,
Yeah here que sneaking in there though, did you? You didn't?
You didn't even Hammers? No, I heard him? Yeah, what
do you say? Can't pay it up? I still have
to make my donation for I'm not gonna hold you.
(21:34):
It was so good too, because you slid it in there,
so so like stealthy. He didn't even you know Jonas
Jonas didn't catch it. Well. I mean, it's as kind
as he was yesterday on social media to me. I mean,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna call him out on
was it work Wife? You're the work wife radio Radio WI.
But the problem is you guys can have side pieces
(21:56):
and radio, but I can't. Like that's what's a double standard.
But side piast I have on radio? Well, you get
big new kick off a right, what does that even mean?
It's your weekly appearances on Dan Patrick show. That's I
haven't done that And God knows how long. Yeah, because
I think he felt guilty about it. How I would
love to know how I have side pieces up on Game.
(22:17):
No no, no, no, no no, because I was doing
but I was doing up one game before you got
hold On, hold On, It's got a secret fan up
on Game gave me the opportunity to be sitting here
with you guys like I was doing that show for
a while before, exactly technically, so technically you guys are
(22:38):
the side pieces technically because I had I had to
use Well, I'm your side piece though, because you guys
were together, right, so you first, you guys were together
first for what five years? I was with with t
J and Plex for less just less than a year.
T J and Plex are your radio wise, So basically
(22:59):
what you just said on the air was that if
we're talking about they're not my wives, we're a radio home.
What what you just said on the air was that
you've got double families, and you pick and choose, and
so you you will open gifts in the morning on
Christmas with t J and Plex, and then you just
stop by and say hi later to Brady and I.
That's where we fall. That's kind of not true. It's
(23:21):
not true. You know, it's racis. They get the dinner,
you know, it takes them out to dinner, win them.
We get the left over. You know, it was a
little bit left we we we were here you coming
home to a little bit of their masters. When I
was in when I was in Iowa City and I
(23:44):
was hanging out, my my little bro and I were
at the bar and we was we was hitting towards
you know, like grown grown ass uh, two pros uh,
you know, euphoria. And he had to go, and he
had to go and and and at the other dinner
where I thought i'd see him at. None of the
(24:07):
main dudes on the show showed up to that dinner.
So I was there by myself, which was fine. I
mean I got with the production, like you really want
me to get you right now, It's actually the other
way around. We were all out of dinner and you
were not there. So I don't know what the hell
(24:29):
you're talking. Everyone literally everyone kept asking, it's LaVar gonna
make this. I don't know. I was got texted. I
don't I don't know anything about that dinner. I think
I would to bid, I think I would to bid. Yeah,
I'm old, not as old as Stoopsie, but I clearly
saw what time he was on. I was walking down
the street, he was walking with his entourage. I was like,
(24:51):
stoops as home, like he was walking down the street.
He's like, yeah, he was, he was. He was moving around.
So he's got two stomping grounds. He's got norm and
he's got he's got a man. He's just loved like
Bob Stups, just loved by everyone and anyone who spent
time around him. You see why, because he's just he's
(25:11):
a he's just a good, good human being. And uh
he's you know, pleasure pleasure to like work with, talk
football with, tell stories with. He's just a good dude,
he really is. What did he make of I think
you gotta pay what a couple hundred thousand dollars just
for that one bowl game he coached? And he didn't
want to accept it, like the athletic director at Oklahoma
(25:32):
made him accept it. He was adamant. He's like, no,
no, no no, no, no, you can't do this and not
accept anything. So I don't know how they ended up
working it out, but he was. He was a harder
percent against it, which again just goes to show you
like that man's heart, you know, like he just does
things out of the goodness of his heart. He doesn't
even look for anything around. Jonas gave us scratch offs
(25:54):
for Christmas and and a dope as bottle of tequila,
which was good, by the way. Long did that last?
By the way? Uh? Not long? I think when we
opened it was gone. That day he sent me a
box for Boss Hogs old poop. Because if you put
(26:14):
it in the box and you mail it from California,
when it gets to all the way across the country
seven days later, that puppies thought out, Yeah, you want
to know what's crazy about that story? When I was
planning for make Sure the Gummy Cranks, by the way,
I appreciate it, whoa whoa class act. When I was
playing for Washington, somebody actually sent me Pooh on a
(26:39):
wooden football field paint at the football field the hash
marks everything, and it had on it. It had like
a little thing the tag on it and it was
like you are a piece of and it had real
I don't know what they did with it, how they like,
you can really, but the way they did it, they
(27:01):
were able to harden it up and connected to the
wooden field platform that they created for it. Not that
was very creative, but at some point like, uh, that's crap,
I mean real, like I opened it up, like there
it is. That was the gift. That was the gift,
(27:25):
and there was a note signed this Everything was very short.
You are they want me to sign it that I'm
a piece of s with the on the on the
wood Who gave you that? I don't know, So I
just mysteriously showed up you like if you could imagine,
(27:48):
I used to get fan mail to the tune of
probably probably like two moving boxes worth in like weeks time,
like a week's time. Yeah, who doesn't get that? I mean,
come on, I'm just saying you and and some of
the stuff that you see, some of the stuff that
you get to do when you're good at football is
pretty interesting. Like like if if there's like at least
(28:12):
two or three people walking this earth, hopefully they're still alive.
They weren't very old, but they you know, they that
they shouldn't be too old. They should still be here.
But my my signature is on their cleavage tattooed. I'm
not like, I'm not like a rock star or anything
like that. But so I used to always tell people
(28:32):
I don't sign skin. You know, I don't sign skin.
Like i'll sign your your stuff. I'll sign some pretty
interesting things that I know you're not gonna keep. Like
i'll sign your your napkin, that's all you have. Okay,
I'll sign your napkin, you know, no worries, But I'm
not signing your skin. And I said, my only, my
only way, the only time I would ever sign your
skin is if you're actually gonna get a tattooed on.
(28:55):
If you're gonna get it tattooed on, you're committed to
this autograph like that and it's not a like a
thing in the moment right now, then I'll do it.
And if you have a long name too, so they
would probably need to be a big Well, what's crazy
is back then I used to sign my name LaVar Arrington.
Yeah it's l Arrington now, but back then, so somebody's boob.
(29:16):
It's probably like whether the Storm of Life had kids
breast fed all kinds of stuff. So what are you
trying to say about that? I don't know, hanging out,
I mean when when when I signed it, it was
a whole lot of space to sign my signature. I'll
say that a few times that I've been down to
(29:37):
side now now you'd have been down to side of
yeah you or or where it's at is probably near
the navel. It's probably a navel tattoo tattoo. That's a
good point. It went from being uh, cleavage tattooed to uh,
I wonder what Eddie Garcia thinks about that? A transition
(30:03):
will say that the other ones though, we're probably not
going to ever fall down because well they were, you know,
position that way. It's not real out here. It's not
they were. It wasn't real out here. It wasn't real
and feel real fake ones out there. Let me tell
you something. If I was ever gonna get they were nice.
(30:24):
If I was ever going to get my breast tattooed
with a name and be the one and only Edmund
Garcia twenty plus years of excellence on the mic. How
about it, Eddie? How about it? How about it? Jonas?
Eddie's like, no way, hey, Eddie, how's the show going
today for us? So we're got a little all over
the place, so it's unpredictable. It's not a bad thing.
(30:47):
Would you be excited if somebody asked you to signature
their cleavage. Honestly, just true. It would depend on the
cleavage exactly. See, you're right there with me. I reserved
the right to decline. You know what I mean. I
think that's what within your right. Would you sign it
ed Eddie or Edmund Garcia? Again, it would depend on
(31:07):
the cleveland and would you take your time or would
it be very quick? Once again, it was it was
something I felt needed to take my time with, I
would do so. If not, I would probably just do
like an e and then like a wine bawn. Yeah. Done,
out of there. Smack, you can get out of there.
You're done. I'm talking about me the rest of the day.
(31:35):
I'm talking about understand Two Pros and a Cup of
Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next, there's
a coach in the NFL who is not happy at
all with a decision made by the league. We will
get into that for you right here on fs ARE.
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Jonas Knocks week days at six am Eastern, three am
(31:57):
Pacific two Pros and a cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
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fs arecup on top of next hour, we will get
to us see how this whole thing is going to
play out in the National Football League in the next
twenty four thirty six hours. There's going to be a
decision made. We will have fun with that coming up
(32:18):
top of next hour here on fs ARE. But right
now it's time for something we do every single morning
at this time on the show, and it's called this.
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing. The guys are here to
bring you in case you missed it. And leadal Lap
is still traveling. He's somewhere in the Mediterranean, sending us
(32:40):
random He's deep between the mountains. Yeah, yeah, the valley,
sending us Hey, though I walk through the Valley of
the Shadow of Death, I sell fear, no cracks in
the valley, sending us weird pictures he sees on a
our wall, just very odd so ly will be back
(33:04):
hopefully at some point. But in his place, did you
catch that? Okay, he was part of that. He knows, uh.
He knows. Yeah, Yeah, he was going guns up as
soon as the show started to come, he knows. Um,
his finger was ready to hit that button, that dump button.
By the way, Ricky Herrera is going to be in
(33:25):
for a lead to laugh the next couple of days.
So Ricky, what do we got? Ricky? Guys? In case
he missed it, forty Niners head coach Kyle Shanahan and
is not happy with the NFL's new rule regarding his
preference of sideline attire. The league will not let him
wear the hat he wants this coming season. The left
to choose between some new hats the league is providing
(33:47):
because he's got those flatbillers. He's a flatbill guy. You know,
I like flat bills. Yeah, what what do you mean?
He I guess they're just they're they're planning. Why would
he not be able to wear the hat he was. Yeah,
there was no further explanation given rick just they have
(34:09):
a two they have two different ones that they have
a sort of a contract that he would wear an
official sideline hat. Yeah, they made it especially for him,
and it was like the Kyle Shannon hat because he's
a big flatbill guy and that was a lot, like
how arians was right because he wore a kangle? Did
he wear Kangles one? Yeah? I think so. Yeah, I don't.
(34:30):
I don't know that they were on the sideline. Maybe
he didn't wear them on the sideline. I don't. I
know what you're saying. That's what he used to love
to wear. Like, I guess you're so used to seeing
them in a kangle, you know, why couldn't What would
be the problem with Kyle Shannon wearing a hat? The
amount of money that that company that's going official sideline hat. Yeah,
(34:52):
I get it, but New Era can't have an official
Kyle Shannah and Sideline hat that some people like. It
feels like they should have their own deal with them.
But it might be a deal for the specific hat
that he would want to wear, but it's not the
specific hat that he wants to wear. If that made
any sense. That didn't make any sense. In other words,
(35:13):
he might not like that brand, even though it might
be the same style hat. Yeah, he said he doesn't
like the hats. The choices like the look or the
feel like it's a comfort thing. But the curved bility
doesn't want to curve ability wants a flatbill. You know,
I know, I got a big hit. So if that
hat ain't right, it ain't gonna fit right, it ain't
(35:35):
gonna feel right, which means that it totally alters the performance.
The biggest size that you can get. I mean, what's
that one? That one's a fitted hat? What does he say?
It's his LaVar? That's that's that's kind of big. I'm
(35:58):
just saying. I'm just saying I stopped in a different
different part of the owl than you. You know what
I mean? That's all John Mine has a gold tag
on it. I know what I mean. If you know
what I mean, I got a gold tag on my hat.
I know what you mean. It's like a windsock. No, sorry, Ricky?
(36:34):
What else? Oh? I needed that lab? That is funny.
That's funny, Oh, Ricky. Ricky's back. Ricky's back. Guys, wicket
(37:02):
pretty Rickett. In case he missed it, man, hurry up, man,
hurry up, hurry up. In case you missed it, guys.
(37:25):
Wide receiver Deon Deonte Johnson is being blasted by fans
for not showing up to his own UH sponsored training
camp by flex Works Sports Youth camp Man. He skipped
his youth camp. I mean, he just got paid. This
is just a bad look all the way through. I mean, yeah,
d dollar admission fee. They were supposed to see Deonte
(37:49):
Johnson and then he doesn't even show up. I mean,
so who they send in in place of him? Did?
Did they send uh a Chase Claypool or anybody like that?
Or is this just you guys never skipped a youth
camp that you were to be to be featured, not
one that I set up. Yeah, I mean that somebody
(38:10):
is is misrepresenting him. That would be a horrible thing
if they made him, you know, the kind of the
highlight of the camp, and he didn't really know about
him having to be there. So apparently they're in the lawsuit,
it claims that thirteen minutes before the start of camp,
one of Johnson's agents texted to say that he his
(38:31):
flight had been canceled and he would be arriving later
than planned, And then later the agent informed them that
Johnson had decided he didn't want to wait around for
another flight, so it wouldn't be coming. So there's that look.
I mean, when all else fails, blame it on the airline.
The airlines have been making it a little difficult but
somebody's unexpected delays and cancelation. I know what. Brady has
(38:52):
had nothing but kind things to say about his airline experiences,
So I don't know what. I know what you mean.
I got a flat against it. Hey, well, this kid
was and all that. It'll be disaster us likely that'll
be That'll be our two and a half year old.
She is like kind of my favorite right now, just
the way her personality is. But man, when she hits
a switch, it's like there is no consoling her. I
(39:15):
mean like flight attendants come over and they're like, oh, go, whoa, Okay,
I'll let me just bring back right off that, Like
they want no part of that. Trying to deal with
her on the plane. Was that the one that you
com compared to the hurt locker? Was that trying to
carry her at Yeah? Like yeah. In the restaurant, everyone's
cheering for me, like, thank you, thank you for giving
your mother here.
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