October 7, 2022 • 38 mins
Friday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys think it’s a one and one for Nathaniel Hackett in Denver after the poor showing on Thursday Night Football against the Colts. Aaron Rodgers puts pressure on his WR’s to keep him around past this season and another edition of ICYMI.
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hell was that last night? I'm got a loss of words, man,
Like I I don't know how you guys viewed that
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or saw that. I mean, first off, I hope name
Hines is okay. That was kind of scary to see.
How you know he reacted to the head injury. Um,
a couple of players with some serious injuries getting carded off.
But I'm not sure what's worse. I don't know if
it's the Colts offense and how often Matt Ryan gets
sacked and some of you know his his interceptions, which
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I don't think in either case he could he saw
a kidding. Sterns um it looked like it was one
of those deals. As a quarterback you see a pick
on tape and you go, there's no way he saw
that guy, because it looks apparent to probably everyone else, like,
how did not see that guy? You know, like he
there's guys in front of him, his visions blocked. He
would have thrown that ball if he saw that guy, obviously,
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but Russ and the Denver offense this, I'm sort of
think this could be a one and done. Not not
necessarily for him because he's paid and they've invested in him,
and he's he showcased the ability to succeed. But maybe
for Nathaniel Hackett. I mean, it looks bad and you've
got a new ownership that remember took over after Nathaniel
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Hackett was hired. If I'm the Walton family and I've
heard that they want to be very involved, I would
start taking a microscope over some things right now, because
I'm getting more of the sense that this is a
higher When you're a general manager, you hire a guy
that you can control, so if you need to, you
can dismiss or you know, this thing can go the
way you want. I get the sense that this thing
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could end up being where it's a one and done
for Nathaniel Hackett, who And you're probably right because there
if their trajectory is based off of what they're doing
right now, then largely in part, you're going to not
have a successful season. I think this still is is
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falling on more on Russell Wilson. And you know, Nathaniel
Hacket didn't throw that interception at the end of the game,
you know, And and it was I don't know it
what was it a good play call? I don't know.
They moved the ball, um couldn't finish drives. I'll say this,
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I bet you Pete Carroll was if he was even
remotely interested in seeing if Russell Wilson could be Russell
Wilson outside of Seattle, if he was watching, he was
sitting somewhere chuckling to himself, Like all these years I
tried to tell y'all we needed to hide Russ in
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the running game and play defense. And now you're figuring
out why. It's like, Okay, let rust cook, let rusts Cook.
Russ puts up great stats in in Seattle. Russ was
doing a lot of great things in Seattle, but Russ
was also doing it under the watchful eye and the
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understanding of what Pete Carroll had put together and had
built in Seattle. And I think we're starting to see
that play out. Think about for a second to how
many ocs they went through. Yes, I mean after the
Super Bowl, you know, Darryl Bebel, they move on from him.
Then it was Brian Schottenheimer, then it was now now
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it's Shane Waldron. And that was only for a year
last year, his first year. But they went through a
number of play callers and you know, every and every
single one of those instances, and look, they had success.
I mean, we could say whatever we want about how
this looks now. They never had a losing season Seattle
with Pete and Russ until last year. And if he
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plays the entire season, doesn't have the hand injury, they're
probably not having a losing season last year. You know,
I think this is a number of things, Like clearly
there's a lack of comfort and chemistry with some of
the guys he's throwing too. I mean, you talked about
the interception at the end of um regulation, right, Really,
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when they're down there, they're they're in there in position
to kick a field goal if he doesn't throw that pick.
I mean, it's an entirely different story of probably how
that game ends. But you go down to the very
last play that decision. The crazy thing about it is this,
It was the exact same two man concept that they
ran back during the New England reverse the New England
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Patriots on the goal line. That was the same concept.
The slot receiver releases on a wide and fade and
he helps create traffic or a quote unquote pick for
the outside receiver who runs a little one step dart
that comes underneath. That dart was ran by Ricardo Lockett
in the Super Bowl. That's where he went to. Malcolm
Butler picked it off. You go back and watch this.
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It's kJ Handler this time, and and the mistake he
made was he didn't look at that side. And I
don't know why he didn't, because it's a man de
man beater. kJ Handler was wide open. The only thing
I can think of is he wanted to work to
Courtland Sutton because he's got better chemistry or more trust
in Courtland Sutton. But the problem was he was running
a route that was never gonna be open. That dB
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jumped inside and he wasn't gonna give up that inside
leverage and you're working against a free defender in the
middle of the field anyway, So it's you know, it's
either it's either a lack of understanding of the offense
they're trying to execute what they're doing, which which is
bothers him. Still he's played enough football he should know better.
Or it's just he doesn't have any any faith and
confidence in anyone other than Courtland Sutton, Jerry Judy, which
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is a shame because kJ handler is a game changer
and so far he hasn't gotten enough uh targets and
burn time in my opinion, do you think he still
got some PTSD from throwing that pick? And maybe he's like,
I'm a going over there. I'm not, I'll stay away
from the right side. I'll take my chances against former
defensive player of the Year and and have a get
batted down. Can I ask this that they wouldn't think
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of the head like, just take the field goal, take
the time to get out of here with it. I
thought that I thought that would have been the choice
had they not gotten so much heat for their decision
making in week one. And listen, we talked about it
after that game. It's one thing if you make your
coaching debut and your quarterback debut with the team and
it's underwhelming, but it's mixed in with like seven eight
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one Eastern Time kickoff games and it's like, all right,
don't worry, we'll get back on track. They were the
laughing stock of the league from the jump. So to
your point on this potentially being a one on one
and done, think about how many disastrous performances they've had
to where now you've got not only an underwhelming start
to the season, but it's also playing out and you're
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being embarrassed and you're being mocked by other people around
the league based on the performed like that was one
of the worst football games we've ever seen, and they
were a willing participant through and through and kept making
it worse and worse. I I just I thought for
sure they were going to go for it on fourth down,
just because I don't think they wanted to deal with
the pushback, and I think Nathaniel Hackett was like, all right,
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let's let's let's take a run at this. Then let's
not deal with some of the criticism and some of
the heat we got the first week we look at
how that worked. Yeah, it's like you're juggling with knives.
I mean, like, I mean, it's just what do you
what do you expecting to happen? Um knife with no handle,
it's all sharp. I had never seen a knife that
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that's that's sharp all the way through. But did you
juggle in the knife that's all the way sharp, no handle.
On the plus side of things, the defense look great.
They did both sides. Like, I think the Colts should
feel good about their defense too, right, I mean, I
wanted to say it, but I know you guys love offense.
In the world loves offense, and ugly games are defensive
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games and boring games or defensive games. I thought. I
thought the past rush for Denver obviously was I mean
Nick Chubb and all not Nick Chubb, but brad Yeah,
Bradley Chubb. The I thought the pass rush was was
on point. They were dialed in. Then on the other
side of the ball. I thought that that the Colts,
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you know, did did an excellent job of obviously maintaining
and keeping things to a minimum, with Phil goals being
the only the only finishing parts of the drive. But
but but I did start to think after a while,
like is it because these defenses are playing so well
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or is it that these offenses are playing so poorly.
I did come to that conclusion. That's a little myself,
you know, if you I mean, if you think about it.
Jerry Judy and one of those red zone possessions, he
the ball literally hits his upfield like chest shoulder. He
could have caught that earlier in the game for a touchdown,
Like I think the odd thing was is And one
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of the things about Jerry Judy that's interesting is the
guy is ouses with talent. He he really does. One
of the things that I feel like he lacks is
just overall awareness for like where he's at on the
field or like a zone coverage. Sometimes you won't have
an awareness of like hey, you need to throttle down
through that window, help out the quarterback, and instead I'll
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run through the window and and the ball will look
like it's behind. It's really like that that wasn't behind.
It was just where the ball needed to be to
complete it. And the receiver ran by it almost like
he thought he was working against man to man. That
was an instance where I thought he like ran so
fast up field you're working against the backer, you've already won.
If you're running down the field and up the seam
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or up the middle of the field like on a
shoot route, you've already won. If you're one on one
with the backer, you just have to get that dude
to kirk turn his head. And then as soon as
you get to the end zone, look for the football,
and Russell's gonna back shoulder you, or he's gonna put
in a spot where you can get it. And and
in that instance, like it looked like he was almost
gonna run out of the back of the end zone.
The Andrew Beck one earlier, that was a drop that
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would have been a touchdown, or I should said earlier
later later in the game. Um, there's a there's a
couple instances where, like I think of both those players happen.
We're not having this conversation about the Broncos and Russell
and their struggles offensively or in the red zone in particular,
because they've literally been the worst team in the red
zone this season. The ground game wasn't that bad, Um
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Russell took off too used his legs more. I mean
it was it's the lack of just making some plays,
he missed some throws. It was a combination of things
with sacks and the turnovers. But man, good defense, but
it looked ugly offensively. And Nathaniel Hackett, the head coach
of the Broncos, he gave his evaluation on Russell Wilson
after last night. I think I'm gonna have to evaluate
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it and look at it and see where he is.
I want to always try to get him into a rhythm.
Didn't feel like we were able to get him in that,
and I need to do a better job. Starts with
me again. There were a couple of opportunities, and I
think we had a couple of drops again, a couple
of penalties. You know, we keep continually hurting ourselves because
the performance by the defense was spectacular. So there it is.
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That's you know, does that does well. He's just trying
to keep it up beat. You know, he's trying to
trying to let everybody know that his quarterback is his quarterback.
But hey, the defense was great. Vic Fangio has got
to be looking somewhere just having a nice glass of wine,
staring over at just a big chicken palm and just
watching this go. And that was a problem. But why
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has got to be a big chicken part? What do
you mean? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, I'm right
there with some What do you mean by I'm glad
you would have said, uh, LaVar was sitting at home
eat some fried chicken while he was laughing. What are
you getting? I mean, I am a black man. You
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know what I mean? You get at I don't. I
don't know, I don't know. That is Johnson all right,
burn pointing something out. This is just a major air,
a total disgrace. I would like to say full responsibility
for this because we did not point out at the
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start of the show what today was a Yeah, this
moment on me. I don't know if we really should
after last night's scam, let me come on, think that
that's what it was. It made you feel so dirty? Yeah,
but you know what, we should cleanse. We should wait
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to like another topic. You don't want to cleanse yourself
a little bit? Just don't know, Jonas really you know? Sorry?
What Jonas like makes you do this? And now we
can shower later. That's fine, we'll shower later. We'll clime
ten sacks in the red zone interceptions. That's that's an
awful performance. You know, it's the best part about all
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that your home two dudes carted off the field a concussion.
Your home fans were like, you know what, we don't
want to stick around for overtime. We're gonna go ahead
and beat traffic. That they were so upset when rushed
through that that interception. They was like, forget this out
of here, man, Like this is crazy they did. You
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see how many fat like a lot the way. That's
not a fickle fan I mean they're not a fickle
fan base. That's one of them fan bases. I mean, hell,
they watched Tebow play. I mean they got through performance. Yeah,
let's ride, all right, it is you know, I know
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I've been great. I know I will be great, and
I'll continue to be great. I can start all right.
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I was looking at the calendar and I was kind
of checking through, like you know, going through right. Some
Monday we got into some football. There was Tuesday we
got into some football. Wednesday we got into some football.
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Thursday we got into some football. But it always felt
different because today is a football Friday. Friday. Yeah, yeah,
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yesterday Friday. Damn football Friday. It is Steve. We showered
during the break, so we're ready to go to go
ahead and uh and on here all right, so the
let's ride by the way. I love how we're Roberto
literally could be happier right now. The Broncos lost to
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Las Vegas last week and then they lose again this week.
He just watching these elves pile up. And how about
how about Indianapolis two and overs the f C West,
the vaunted cust You know what's great about Indianapolis? But
there's nothing they should be fished cocktail, shrimp cocktail. Now,
there's nothing they should be proud of about last night,
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but they won, and it completely changes the conversation. Matt
Ryan looks completely lost. Well, can I say this, Like
everyone's playing this like type of shell coverage on defense,
and it's all like if you look at the rushing averages,
teams are averaging over four yards of pop. I mean
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they are like some in some games are actually like
five yards of rush five yards than attempt. There's others
there's the there's it's not quite the case, but they're
really forcing offenses to kind of dink and dunk, take
what they give you, or try to take a shot
down field. But most of these offensive lines can't hold
up in verse of four man rush or like the
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different ways they're going to get pressure, and and it's
it's just it's funny watching this week after week after week,
and people are like, man, is the offense that bad?
It's like, not really, It's just a lot of these
offenses don't have the ability to protect their quarterback or
quarterback who can buy time to allow guys to get
open downfield. It's just it's like where we're at now,
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Like we we have these trends where the offense dominates
and the defense looks like they need help and we
need to create rules to help them out, and then
the defense adjust. And I think I think we're to
that point now, especially this season. If you look at
how many unders have hit, how much more low scoring
games have been, And we saw it last year a
little bit too. Scoring was down over the like over
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the previous three years. And I think defenses are starting
to adjust from some of the stuff we've seen offensively. YEA,
so great. That's a great perspective. And I mean defenses
always are are forced to adjust to the adjustments of
trying to make it a more offensive game. I mean,
that's that's the reality, and that's the mentality and the
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mindset of of a defender and defensive coordinators. You know.
It's it's interesting that you say that because it makes
me start thinking back to you know, the pistol sets
and the wildcat sets and the r p O s
and and stuff like that, and people are still running
RPO style offenses and stuff like that, wildcat offenses. But
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I remember people, you know, I remember I had a
big debate with with Marshall Folk about the wildcat and
he was like, Oh, the wild cat is the wave
of the future. This is gonna be here forever. It's unstoppable.
It creates this dilemma, da da data this And I
was like, now they'll stop it in in a year
or two, it'll happen. It'll happen pretty soon, because that's
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what happens once you and and there's old saying that
that to me still applies. It's a copycat league. So
somebody is able to start running something that is having
uh an amount of success that looks sustainable, everybody's gonna
start trying to adopt their own version of what it
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is that's working and and for what it's worth. You
start to see defenses adjust, You start to see them
really really kind of calibrate to what it is that's
taking place. So now it's going to be that next
iteration of what offensive wrinkles or schemes are are going
to work in order to be able to force defenses
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to have to figure out that next. You know, how
do we adjust to this? I don't know what it's called.
I don't is it Is it still some aspect of
an r p O. Is it is it some aspect
of a wildcat? You know what? You could? You could
make the change to where it's at in college and
allow offensive lineman to be three yards down field, But
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I personally feel like that'd be like cheating it is
because you don't give the defense a true read exactly,
and I think it puts too much pressure on the officials.
But that would for sure level the playing field because
you see in college and there's some bad offensive performances,
but they're also younger players and they're gonna be a
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little more inconsistent. And you see, you know, some offenses
don't have a Bryce young as C. J. Stroud and
all this talent and wide receiver. But when you see
a team run the r p O s effectively, and
once you get in the red zone like short yardage
of goalne situations, that's a wrap man because those defenses
can get exposed but in the NFL doing a lot
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of one yard downfield, so there's you can't really do
quite as much with them, whereas in college, like they
can read like two guys because it takes so long
for the lineman to get down field that you can
actually throw the ball down field, which is very different
than the NFL. I mean that ball has to come
out quick. If you're there, you go, And that's the key.
And you know, it's crazy. I teach that in high school.
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If if the offensive lineman do anything but go backwards,
anything but backwards, that ball either has to come out
right now or it's a run. I teach that right now,
like recognition of of what an offensive line is going
to do. So if an offensive line can actually run
down field and you still can throw the ball, yeah,
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I mean that, And I would assume that that's gonna
be a lot of screens. That's that's gonna be a
lot of like under crossing routes or different things like that,
maybe rollouts, depending on how athletic your your quarterback is.
But it now has to turn into eleven man football.
If if you start getting into that that realm, then
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I wonder what does that mean for the description of
the traditional pocket as in quarterback, because I think that
you got to call that into question if you're moving
the lineman in a way where you're not protecting the
quarterback as such, in a traditional pocket, that quarterback has
to move or that ball has to come out. It
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has to create enough space for that ball to come out, souper,
It's got to come out quick. So it would be
interesting to see if defenses have truly calibrated and adjusted
to where offenses are. Now, what is that that offensive wrinkle?
What is that scheme formation wise, whatever it may be,
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What is it that opens opens up the offensive floodgates,
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Aaron Rodgers is really happy about going to London. London
because he wants to have a Guinness or whatever he
wants to have locally. There are Boddington's, as he pointed out,
at some hub pub there and some brewery there. You've
also got other members of the Packers that are not
that thrilled with it. You've got Rasul Douglas who was
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calling out the fact that he isn't like traveling all
the way over to London. So all of that is
the backdrop for Aaron Rodgers also talking about another issue
that he's got with the organization and what the status
in the future is going to be, and that's his
Young Receiver Corps and how that could impact how long
he wants to keep playing. My decision when it comes
down to it, will be obviously the physical part of
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the mental part seeing where the team is that I
look at the defense, A lot of guys are signing
for multiple years now that seems to be intact for
a while. We've got a good core on the offensive line.
It's young guys, obviously, two great backs who are still
on a contract. There's some moving pieces, but you know
that a factor in for sure, but seeing the development
those guys, you know, can't help but be a part
of the decision. So no pressure, right, better play well well.
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It's one of the great quarterbacks of all times walking
away early, So no pressure at all, but just that
that's sort of where the Green Bay Packers are at
when it comes to Aaron Rodgers and his future Brady Quinn.
Those guys better get figure it out and start catching
footballs and getting open, or else he's gonna retire. I
think I think you could. I think you could take
it that way. I think you could also kind of
take it more as he's just being open about kind
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of where they're at and if it makes sense for
him to, you know, come back. I also think there's
a certain degree of, you know, wanting to help bring
these as a long but knowing that it might not
be him that's gonna benefit from the growth. You know,
it might be Jordan's love that ends up being the
guy that steps into that spot or someone other than
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Jordan's love that would step into that spot and benefit
from you know, Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs, you know, their
growths with that offense. So it's early. I mean, I'm
not sure what to make of that. I know there's
been a lot of frustrations with the wide receiver group.
But the funny thing is is, I mean Davante Adams
chose to leave, and everyone moaned and complained about not
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taking wide receivers in the draft in previous drafts, But
you'd be going through the same thing. I mean, you'd
be going through the same growing pains in previous years
even if it was the case then. And I think
you might say, well, they would be better prepared now
or they'd be more mature now for that opportunity. But um,
I mean they drafted on Marie Rogers. He was a
great player during his time at Clemson. He has not
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been able to replace or some plant A Cobb, and
I think he's a similar type player given their skill set.
You know, there's other young winde receivers that have been
there that have come along, but Marcus Valdes Scanling is
not there anymore. They decided to let him go to
the Kansas City Chiefs. How's that working out? He looks
great there. You know, all of bazards come on. Who
is one of the more dependable pieces, So don't get there.
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I just think it will take some time for them
to mold into what he's hoping they'll become. I just
think Aaron Rodgers has mastered the art to being Aaron
Rodgers and as it applies in the media, because he
can give you something that can be interpreted and sixty
degrees in a way, and and and it can be
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as as broad and as vast as what your background
presents to you, what your upcoming was, what your upbringing,
what what your educational level is. It's just kind of funny.
If you're super intellectual, you can turn what he says
into some super intellectually stimulated conversation. If you're not super
intellectually conversating or stimulated that way, you can simplify his
(29:08):
his statements and it's comments, his comments as simple as
you want. You know. There's the way the way he
presents what he wants to present to the media is
it just runs the whole It's from spectrum to the
whole spectrum. It's like a cheesecake factory menu, right, or
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or like a diner like why does a diner had
like how do you have so much inventory of food?
Like your your menu is like a book. But the
point is is, I think he does so much, so much,
I guess putting things in perspective that it all. It
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almost gives him plausible deniability or culpability for himself, like
I really do. I think he really and he's got
so much good will built up because well he's a
back to back m v P. It can't be me,
it can't be me. So if there's something that's going on,
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then just believe you need to be shining that spotlight
somewhere else and trying to figure out what that is.
But he does it without alien what really alienating anyone
of true value on his team player wise. Now he'll
he'll go out to the head coach, He'll cryptically do
(30:34):
things towards the head coach, he'll cryptically do things towards
the front office people and the decision makers, but he
really generally does not You never ever see him really
go at his teammates of value. So so Aaron Rodgers
has figured out how he wants to communicate how he
wants to present himself. He's fully comfortable and confident in
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how he does it. And you know what, as point,
you start to sit there and ask yourself, you know,
is he right? You know, is is he right with
what he's saying? And you start to that's the question
that you find yourself asking versus are you trying to
blame it on Aaron Rodgers or is there some type
of something that you could pinpoint with green Bay that
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is somewhat connected to Aaron Rodgers? Like you could do
that with Russell Wilson right now, right Like the easiest
thing you could say is how many people did Russell
Wilson tell on the sideline to say runner pass guys,
come on, go tell the defense runner pat go tell
the runner pad go on the way. So that I
didn't hear any runners. I didn't hear any runner passes,
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and the defense still played pretty well. I'm saying, I wish,
I wish, I wish Aaron Rodgers would just, uh, you know,
share how he feels about whether or not the Packers
will win by more than seven and a half points
on Sunday. That's all. That's all I'm here by the way,
that number has got hammered down, and I think it's
I think it's because they anticipate Daniel Jones punt. Yeah,
all the dump truck, nots Bryan day Ball has got
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What's the weight of three Ryah Hall? He fought at
middleweight guy. Yeah, he's gonna be way smaller than Bell.
Looks like he's about two fifty. Yeah, I think that
he can get because he's pretty muscular. He can probably
get up to that weight or at least close to it.
But yeah, you're Ryah Hall is a striker like he's
that's his game and this could go really badly for Yeah,
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gonna make him but here to a specific weight class.
I haven't seen the weight class. And because that's the
thing with Jake Paul, like I know that he's under
that undercard. Everyone always complains about the weight class because
usually Jake Paul is fighting guys smaller than him. Yeah,
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hell was that last night? I'm got a loss of words, man,
Like I I don't know how you guys viewed that
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or saw that. I mean, first off, I hope name
Hines is okay. That was kind of scary to see.
How you know he reacted to the head injury. Um,
a couple of players with some serious injuries getting carded off.
But I'm not sure what's worse. I don't know if
it's the Colts offense and how often Matt Ryan gets
sacked and some of you know his his interceptions, which
(02:12):
I don't think in either case he could he saw
a kidding. Sterns um it looked like it was one
of those deals. As a quarterback you see a pick
on tape and you go, there's no way he saw
that guy, because it looks apparent to probably everyone else, like,
how did not see that guy? You know, like he
there's guys in front of him, his visions blocked. He
would have thrown that ball if he saw that guy, obviously,
(02:32):
but Russ and the Denver offense this, I'm sort of
think this could be a one and done. Not not
necessarily for him because he's paid and they've invested in him,
and he's he showcased the ability to succeed. But maybe
for Nathaniel Hackett. I mean, it looks bad and you've
got a new ownership that remember took over after Nathaniel
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Hackett was hired. If I'm the Walton family and I've
heard that they want to be very involved, I would
start taking a microscope over some things right now, because
I'm getting more of the sense that this is a
higher When you're a general manager, you hire a guy
that you can control, so if you need to, you
can dismiss or you know, this thing can go the
way you want. I get the sense that this thing
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could end up being where it's a one and done
for Nathaniel Hackett, who And you're probably right because there
if their trajectory is based off of what they're doing
right now, then largely in part, you're going to not
have a successful season. I think this still is is
(03:41):
falling on more on Russell Wilson. And you know, Nathaniel
Hacket didn't throw that interception at the end of the game,
you know, And and it was I don't know it
what was it a good play call? I don't know.
They moved the ball, um couldn't finish drives. I'll say this,
(04:05):
I bet you Pete Carroll was if he was even
remotely interested in seeing if Russell Wilson could be Russell
Wilson outside of Seattle, if he was watching, he was
sitting somewhere chuckling to himself, Like all these years I
tried to tell y'all we needed to hide Russ in
(04:25):
the running game and play defense. And now you're figuring
out why. It's like, Okay, let rust cook, let rusts Cook.
Russ puts up great stats in in Seattle. Russ was
doing a lot of great things in Seattle, but Russ
was also doing it under the watchful eye and the
(04:46):
understanding of what Pete Carroll had put together and had
built in Seattle. And I think we're starting to see
that play out. Think about for a second to how
many ocs they went through. Yes, I mean after the
Super Bowl, you know, Darryl Bebel, they move on from him.
Then it was Brian Schottenheimer, then it was now now
(05:06):
it's Shane Waldron. And that was only for a year
last year, his first year. But they went through a
number of play callers and you know, every and every
single one of those instances, and look, they had success.
I mean, we could say whatever we want about how
this looks now. They never had a losing season Seattle
with Pete and Russ until last year. And if he
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plays the entire season, doesn't have the hand injury, they're
probably not having a losing season last year. You know,
I think this is a number of things, Like clearly
there's a lack of comfort and chemistry with some of
the guys he's throwing too. I mean, you talked about
the interception at the end of um regulation, right, Really,
(05:48):
when they're down there, they're they're in there in position
to kick a field goal if he doesn't throw that pick.
I mean, it's an entirely different story of probably how
that game ends. But you go down to the very
last play that decision. The crazy thing about it is this,
It was the exact same two man concept that they
ran back during the New England reverse the New England
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Patriots on the goal line. That was the same concept.
The slot receiver releases on a wide and fade and
he helps create traffic or a quote unquote pick for
the outside receiver who runs a little one step dart
that comes underneath. That dart was ran by Ricardo Lockett
in the Super Bowl. That's where he went to. Malcolm
Butler picked it off. You go back and watch this.
(06:32):
It's kJ Handler this time, and and the mistake he
made was he didn't look at that side. And I
don't know why he didn't, because it's a man de
man beater. kJ Handler was wide open. The only thing
I can think of is he wanted to work to
Courtland Sutton because he's got better chemistry or more trust
in Courtland Sutton. But the problem was he was running
a route that was never gonna be open. That dB
(06:54):
jumped inside and he wasn't gonna give up that inside
leverage and you're working against a free defender in the
middle of the field anyway, So it's you know, it's
either it's either a lack of understanding of the offense
they're trying to execute what they're doing, which which is
bothers him. Still he's played enough football he should know better.
Or it's just he doesn't have any any faith and
confidence in anyone other than Courtland Sutton, Jerry Judy, which
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is a shame because kJ handler is a game changer
and so far he hasn't gotten enough uh targets and
burn time in my opinion, do you think he still
got some PTSD from throwing that pick? And maybe he's like,
I'm a going over there. I'm not, I'll stay away
from the right side. I'll take my chances against former
defensive player of the Year and and have a get
batted down. Can I ask this that they wouldn't think
(07:39):
of the head like, just take the field goal, take
the time to get out of here with it. I
thought that I thought that would have been the choice
had they not gotten so much heat for their decision
making in week one. And listen, we talked about it
after that game. It's one thing if you make your
coaching debut and your quarterback debut with the team and
it's underwhelming, but it's mixed in with like seven eight
(08:01):
one Eastern Time kickoff games and it's like, all right,
don't worry, we'll get back on track. They were the
laughing stock of the league from the jump. So to
your point on this potentially being a one on one
and done, think about how many disastrous performances they've had
to where now you've got not only an underwhelming start
to the season, but it's also playing out and you're
(08:21):
being embarrassed and you're being mocked by other people around
the league based on the performed like that was one
of the worst football games we've ever seen, and they
were a willing participant through and through and kept making
it worse and worse. I I just I thought for
sure they were going to go for it on fourth down,
just because I don't think they wanted to deal with
the pushback, and I think Nathaniel Hackett was like, all right,
(08:42):
let's let's let's take a run at this. Then let's
not deal with some of the criticism and some of
the heat we got the first week we look at
how that worked. Yeah, it's like you're juggling with knives.
I mean, like, I mean, it's just what do you
what do you expecting to happen? Um knife with no handle,
it's all sharp. I had never seen a knife that
(09:04):
that's that's sharp all the way through. But did you
juggle in the knife that's all the way sharp, no handle.
On the plus side of things, the defense look great.
They did both sides. Like, I think the Colts should
feel good about their defense too, right, I mean, I
wanted to say it, but I know you guys love offense.
In the world loves offense, and ugly games are defensive
(09:26):
games and boring games or defensive games. I thought. I
thought the past rush for Denver obviously was I mean
Nick Chubb and all not Nick Chubb, but brad Yeah,
Bradley Chubb. The I thought the pass rush was was
on point. They were dialed in. Then on the other
side of the ball. I thought that that the Colts,
(09:49):
you know, did did an excellent job of obviously maintaining
and keeping things to a minimum, with Phil goals being
the only the only finishing parts of the drive. But
but but I did start to think after a while,
like is it because these defenses are playing so well
(10:09):
or is it that these offenses are playing so poorly.
I did come to that conclusion. That's a little myself,
you know, if you I mean, if you think about it.
Jerry Judy and one of those red zone possessions, he
the ball literally hits his upfield like chest shoulder. He
could have caught that earlier in the game for a touchdown,
Like I think the odd thing was is And one
(10:31):
of the things about Jerry Judy that's interesting is the
guy is ouses with talent. He he really does. One
of the things that I feel like he lacks is
just overall awareness for like where he's at on the
field or like a zone coverage. Sometimes you won't have
an awareness of like hey, you need to throttle down
through that window, help out the quarterback, and instead I'll
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run through the window and and the ball will look
like it's behind. It's really like that that wasn't behind.
It was just where the ball needed to be to
complete it. And the receiver ran by it almost like
he thought he was working against man to man. That
was an instance where I thought he like ran so
fast up field you're working against the backer, you've already won.
If you're running down the field and up the seam
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or up the middle of the field like on a
shoot route, you've already won. If you're one on one
with the backer, you just have to get that dude
to kirk turn his head. And then as soon as
you get to the end zone, look for the football,
and Russell's gonna back shoulder you, or he's gonna put
in a spot where you can get it. And and
in that instance, like it looked like he was almost
gonna run out of the back of the end zone.
The Andrew Beck one earlier, that was a drop that
(11:35):
would have been a touchdown, or I should said earlier
later later in the game. Um, there's a there's a
couple instances where, like I think of both those players happen.
We're not having this conversation about the Broncos and Russell
and their struggles offensively or in the red zone in particular,
because they've literally been the worst team in the red
zone this season. The ground game wasn't that bad, Um
(11:57):
Russell took off too used his legs more. I mean
it was it's the lack of just making some plays,
he missed some throws. It was a combination of things
with sacks and the turnovers. But man, good defense, but
it looked ugly offensively. And Nathaniel Hackett, the head coach
of the Broncos, he gave his evaluation on Russell Wilson
after last night. I think I'm gonna have to evaluate
(12:18):
it and look at it and see where he is.
I want to always try to get him into a rhythm.
Didn't feel like we were able to get him in that,
and I need to do a better job. Starts with
me again. There were a couple of opportunities, and I
think we had a couple of drops again, a couple
of penalties. You know, we keep continually hurting ourselves because
the performance by the defense was spectacular. So there it is.
(12:40):
That's you know, does that does well. He's just trying
to keep it up beat. You know, he's trying to
trying to let everybody know that his quarterback is his quarterback.
But hey, the defense was great. Vic Fangio has got
to be looking somewhere just having a nice glass of wine,
staring over at just a big chicken palm and just
watching this go. And that was a problem. But why
(13:02):
has got to be a big chicken part? What do
you mean? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, I'm right
there with some What do you mean by I'm glad
you would have said, uh, LaVar was sitting at home
eat some fried chicken while he was laughing. What are
you getting? I mean, I am a black man. You
(13:25):
know what I mean? You get at I don't. I
don't know, I don't know. That is Johnson all right,
burn pointing something out. This is just a major air,
a total disgrace. I would like to say full responsibility
for this because we did not point out at the
(13:46):
start of the show what today was a Yeah, this
moment on me. I don't know if we really should
after last night's scam, let me come on, think that
that's what it was. It made you feel so dirty? Yeah,
but you know what, we should cleanse. We should wait
(14:08):
to like another topic. You don't want to cleanse yourself
a little bit? Just don't know, Jonas really you know? Sorry?
What Jonas like makes you do this? And now we
can shower later. That's fine, we'll shower later. We'll clime
ten sacks in the red zone interceptions. That's that's an
awful performance. You know, it's the best part about all
(14:30):
that your home two dudes carted off the field a concussion.
Your home fans were like, you know what, we don't
want to stick around for overtime. We're gonna go ahead
and beat traffic. That they were so upset when rushed
through that that interception. They was like, forget this out
of here, man, Like this is crazy they did. You
(14:51):
see how many fat like a lot the way. That's
not a fickle fan I mean they're not a fickle
fan base. That's one of them fan bases. I mean, hell,
they watched Tebow play. I mean they got through performance. Yeah,
let's ride, all right, it is you know, I know
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I've been great. I know I will be great, and
I'll continue to be great. I can start all right.
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don't know if you guys knew this or not, but
I was looking at the calendar and I was kind
of checking through, like you know, going through right. Some
Monday we got into some football. There was Tuesday we
got into some football. Wednesday we got into some football.
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Thursday we got into some football. But it always felt
different because today is a football Friday. Friday. Yeah, yeah,
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yesterday Friday. Damn football Friday. It is Steve. We showered
during the break, so we're ready to go to go
ahead and uh and on here all right, so the
let's ride by the way. I love how we're Roberto
literally could be happier right now. The Broncos lost to
(18:03):
Las Vegas last week and then they lose again this week.
He just watching these elves pile up. And how about
how about Indianapolis two and overs the f C West,
the vaunted cust You know what's great about Indianapolis? But
there's nothing they should be fished cocktail, shrimp cocktail. Now,
there's nothing they should be proud of about last night,
(18:24):
but they won, and it completely changes the conversation. Matt
Ryan looks completely lost. Well, can I say this, Like
everyone's playing this like type of shell coverage on defense,
and it's all like if you look at the rushing averages,
teams are averaging over four yards of pop. I mean
(18:45):
they are like some in some games are actually like
five yards of rush five yards than attempt. There's others
there's the there's it's not quite the case, but they're
really forcing offenses to kind of dink and dunk, take
what they give you, or try to take a shot
down field. But most of these offensive lines can't hold
up in verse of four man rush or like the
(19:07):
different ways they're going to get pressure, and and it's
it's just it's funny watching this week after week after week,
and people are like, man, is the offense that bad?
It's like, not really, It's just a lot of these
offenses don't have the ability to protect their quarterback or
quarterback who can buy time to allow guys to get
open downfield. It's just it's like where we're at now,
(19:28):
Like we we have these trends where the offense dominates
and the defense looks like they need help and we
need to create rules to help them out, and then
the defense adjust. And I think I think we're to
that point now, especially this season. If you look at
how many unders have hit, how much more low scoring
games have been, And we saw it last year a
little bit too. Scoring was down over the like over
(19:49):
the previous three years. And I think defenses are starting
to adjust from some of the stuff we've seen offensively. YEA,
so great. That's a great perspective. And I mean defenses
always are are forced to adjust to the adjustments of
trying to make it a more offensive game. I mean,
that's that's the reality, and that's the mentality and the
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mindset of of a defender and defensive coordinators. You know.
It's it's interesting that you say that because it makes
me start thinking back to you know, the pistol sets
and the wildcat sets and the r p O s
and and stuff like that, and people are still running
RPO style offenses and stuff like that, wildcat offenses. But
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I remember people, you know, I remember I had a
big debate with with Marshall Folk about the wildcat and
he was like, Oh, the wild cat is the wave
of the future. This is gonna be here forever. It's unstoppable.
It creates this dilemma, da da data this And I
was like, now they'll stop it in in a year
or two, it'll happen. It'll happen pretty soon, because that's
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what happens once you and and there's old saying that
that to me still applies. It's a copycat league. So
somebody is able to start running something that is having
uh an amount of success that looks sustainable, everybody's gonna
start trying to adopt their own version of what it
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is that's working and and for what it's worth. You
start to see defenses adjust, You start to see them
really really kind of calibrate to what it is that's
taking place. So now it's going to be that next
iteration of what offensive wrinkles or schemes are are going
to work in order to be able to force defenses
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to have to figure out that next. You know, how
do we adjust to this? I don't know what it's called.
I don't is it Is it still some aspect of
an r p O. Is it is it some aspect
of a wildcat? You know what? You could? You could
make the change to where it's at in college and
allow offensive lineman to be three yards down field, But
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I personally feel like that'd be like cheating it is
because you don't give the defense a true read exactly,
and I think it puts too much pressure on the officials.
But that would for sure level the playing field because
you see in college and there's some bad offensive performances,
but they're also younger players and they're gonna be a
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little more inconsistent. And you see, you know, some offenses
don't have a Bryce young as C. J. Stroud and
all this talent and wide receiver. But when you see
a team run the r p O s effectively, and
once you get in the red zone like short yardage
of goalne situations, that's a wrap man because those defenses
can get exposed but in the NFL doing a lot
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of one yard downfield, so there's you can't really do
quite as much with them, whereas in college, like they
can read like two guys because it takes so long
for the lineman to get down field that you can
actually throw the ball down field, which is very different
than the NFL. I mean that ball has to come
out quick. If you're there, you go, And that's the key.
And you know, it's crazy. I teach that in high school.
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If if the offensive lineman do anything but go backwards,
anything but backwards, that ball either has to come out
right now or it's a run. I teach that right now,
like recognition of of what an offensive line is going
to do. So if an offensive line can actually run
down field and you still can throw the ball, yeah,
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I mean that, And I would assume that that's gonna
be a lot of screens. That's that's gonna be a
lot of like under crossing routes or different things like that,
maybe rollouts, depending on how athletic your your quarterback is.
But it now has to turn into eleven man football.
If if you start getting into that that realm, then
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I wonder what does that mean for the description of
the traditional pocket as in quarterback, because I think that
you got to call that into question if you're moving
the lineman in a way where you're not protecting the
quarterback as such, in a traditional pocket, that quarterback has
to move or that ball has to come out. It
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has to create enough space for that ball to come out, souper,
It's got to come out quick. So it would be
interesting to see if defenses have truly calibrated and adjusted
to where offenses are. Now, what is that that offensive wrinkle?
What is that scheme formation wise, whatever it may be,
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What is it that opens opens up the offensive floodgates,
so to speak. Again, it's two pros and a cup
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one of the great fan bases and all of sports,
and a home game has been stolen from you. Now.
Aaron Rodgers is really happy about going to London. London
because he wants to have a Guinness or whatever he
wants to have locally. There are Boddington's, as he pointed out,
at some hub pub there and some brewery there. You've
also got other members of the Packers that are not
that thrilled with it. You've got Rasul Douglas who was
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calling out the fact that he isn't like traveling all
the way over to London. So all of that is
the backdrop for Aaron Rodgers also talking about another issue
that he's got with the organization and what the status
in the future is going to be, and that's his
Young Receiver Corps and how that could impact how long
he wants to keep playing. My decision when it comes
down to it, will be obviously the physical part of
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the mental part seeing where the team is that I
look at the defense, A lot of guys are signing
for multiple years now that seems to be intact for
a while. We've got a good core on the offensive line.
It's young guys, obviously, two great backs who are still
on a contract. There's some moving pieces, but you know
that a factor in for sure, but seeing the development
those guys, you know, can't help but be a part
of the decision. So no pressure, right, better play well well.
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It's one of the great quarterbacks of all times walking
away early, So no pressure at all, but just that
that's sort of where the Green Bay Packers are at
when it comes to Aaron Rodgers and his future Brady Quinn.
Those guys better get figure it out and start catching
footballs and getting open, or else he's gonna retire. I
think I think you could. I think you could take
it that way. I think you could also kind of
take it more as he's just being open about kind
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of where they're at and if it makes sense for
him to, you know, come back. I also think there's
a certain degree of, you know, wanting to help bring
these as a long but knowing that it might not
be him that's gonna benefit from the growth. You know,
it might be Jordan's love that ends up being the
guy that steps into that spot or someone other than
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Jordan's love that would step into that spot and benefit
from you know, Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs, you know, their
growths with that offense. So it's early. I mean, I'm
not sure what to make of that. I know there's
been a lot of frustrations with the wide receiver group.
But the funny thing is is, I mean Davante Adams
chose to leave, and everyone moaned and complained about not
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taking wide receivers in the draft in previous drafts, But
you'd be going through the same thing. I mean, you'd
be going through the same growing pains in previous years
even if it was the case then. And I think
you might say, well, they would be better prepared now
or they'd be more mature now for that opportunity. But um,
I mean they drafted on Marie Rogers. He was a
great player during his time at Clemson. He has not
(27:57):
been able to replace or some plant A Cobb, and
I think he's a similar type player given their skill set.
You know, there's other young winde receivers that have been
there that have come along, but Marcus Valdes Scanling is
not there anymore. They decided to let him go to
the Kansas City Chiefs. How's that working out? He looks
great there. You know, all of bazards come on. Who
is one of the more dependable pieces, So don't get there.
(28:19):
I just think it will take some time for them
to mold into what he's hoping they'll become. I just
think Aaron Rodgers has mastered the art to being Aaron
Rodgers and as it applies in the media, because he
can give you something that can be interpreted and sixty
degrees in a way, and and and it can be
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as as broad and as vast as what your background
presents to you, what your upcoming was, what your upbringing,
what what your educational level is. It's just kind of funny.
If you're super intellectual, you can turn what he says
into some super intellectually stimulated conversation. If you're not super
intellectually conversating or stimulated that way, you can simplify his
(29:08):
his statements and it's comments, his comments as simple as
you want. You know. There's the way the way he
presents what he wants to present to the media is
it just runs the whole It's from spectrum to the
whole spectrum. It's like a cheesecake factory menu, right, or
(29:28):
or like a diner like why does a diner had
like how do you have so much inventory of food?
Like your your menu is like a book. But the
point is is, I think he does so much, so much,
I guess putting things in perspective that it all. It
(29:50):
almost gives him plausible deniability or culpability for himself, like
I really do. I think he really and he's got
so much good will built up because well he's a
back to back m v P. It can't be me,
it can't be me. So if there's something that's going on,
(30:13):
then just believe you need to be shining that spotlight
somewhere else and trying to figure out what that is.
But he does it without alien what really alienating anyone
of true value on his team player wise. Now he'll
he'll go out to the head coach, He'll cryptically do
(30:34):
things towards the head coach, he'll cryptically do things towards
the front office people and the decision makers, but he
really generally does not You never ever see him really
go at his teammates of value. So so Aaron Rodgers
has figured out how he wants to communicate how he
wants to present himself. He's fully comfortable and confident in
(30:57):
how he does it. And you know what, as point,
you start to sit there and ask yourself, you know,
is he right? You know, is is he right with
what he's saying? And you start to that's the question
that you find yourself asking versus are you trying to
blame it on Aaron Rodgers or is there some type
of something that you could pinpoint with green Bay that
(31:21):
is somewhat connected to Aaron Rodgers? Like you could do
that with Russell Wilson right now, right Like the easiest
thing you could say is how many people did Russell
Wilson tell on the sideline to say runner pass guys,
come on, go tell the defense runner pat go tell
the runner pad go on the way. So that I
didn't hear any runners. I didn't hear any runner passes,
(31:41):
and the defense still played pretty well. I'm saying, I wish,
I wish, I wish Aaron Rodgers would just, uh, you know,
share how he feels about whether or not the Packers
will win by more than seven and a half points
on Sunday. That's all. That's all I'm here by the way,
that number has got hammered down, and I think it's
I think it's because they anticipate Daniel Jones punt. Yeah,
all the dump truck, nots Bryan day Ball has got
(32:03):
something up as sleeve. Or maybe that's too Maybe someone
got a peek at at day Ball and they're they're
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I mean, apparently she's ashamed. Danny Ainge is really upset
about the affair. Reportedly, Uh, they've got people saying that
she's ashamed to show her face in public. Um, you know,
did you actually say her name? All I heard was
said she was a Mormon mom of three. Yeah. Yeah,
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kept from saying the name. I was thinking the same,
thank you. I mean, her name is her names today?
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surprised still talking about this. Yeah, I mean it's listen.
I mean, if it's true, I mean, the guy likes
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Emaodoca do that? You know Mother three? You know Mormon,
A lot going on there that. Uh, you know, we're
probably more to this story as well too. Yeah you're
saying I would look at just I'm gonna keep my
fingerprints off this, all right, Yeah, I'm would let shuts
go ahead. I'm good. Yeah, Well, what else we got? Lee? Yeah,
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that is another story we touched on a while ago.
Former running back Leby on Bell. He's actually got an
official fight coming up after taking out Adrian Peterson. He's
gonna be facing Yeah, yeah, this is an official debut.
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What's the weight of three Ryah Hall? He fought at
middleweight guy. Yeah, he's gonna be way smaller than Bell.
Looks like he's about two fifty. Yeah, I think that
he can get because he's pretty muscular. He can probably
get up to that weight or at least close to it.
But yeah, you're Ryah Hall is a striker like he's
that's his game and this could go really badly for Yeah,
(36:49):
but dude, he might have twenty pounds on him. They're
gonna make him but here to a specific weight class.
I haven't seen the weight class. And because that's the
thing with Jake Paul, like I know that he's under
that undercard. Everyone always complains about the weight class because
usually Jake Paul is fighting guys smaller than him. Yeah,
and so everyone's kind of complained about that. I feel
like that's part of the niche with these is they
(37:09):
don't make these guys that here. It's to being in
a specific weight class, right, yeah, this is m m A.
This is different. Man. They're boxing. They're boxing, Okay, okay,
well then you're right yeah, well then you're right you yeah.
I mean, if it's he's not gonna put on thirty pounds,
is he? Uh, he's capable of it. He's pretty jacked man,
Like he's I know, I know he's capable, but he's
(37:32):
still doing thirty pounds boxing above his natural weight. Like
that's I don't know. I'll take your eyehole. Yeah, okay,
we'll go and bet it. Give me your credit card,
let me play a weight If the was UFC different boxing,
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