October 27, 2022 • 39 mins
Thursday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Brady Quinn’s buddy blows his surprise BDay dinner. The guys preview TNF between the Bucs and Ravens featuring lackluster pass attacks from both Lamar Jackson and Tom Brady. Aaron Rodgers doubles down on constructive criticism of his teammates. Plus, a show favorite being featured on the reboot of MTV’s Cribs and Mattress Mack looking for a historic payout on ICYMI.
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
Navar Arrington, Brady, Quinn, Jonas Knocks. Coming up on this
Thursday edition, we got a birthday in the house. Stick
around to find out who is celebrating the big day
and they are not happy about being reminded of it
here on the air. Plus, we're gonna get into Thursday
Night football between the Bucks and the Ravens. Very interesting
development with the betting line in this game. What does
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it indicate as to what the expectations could be? And
we're gonna have some over unders on that as well too.
Albert Brier is gonna stop by for some NFL news
and notes. We're gonna hear more from Aaron Rodgers. We're
also gonna hear from Russell Wilson, he continues to amaze.
We've got another edition of incase you missed it, and
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com the way tire buying should be. Yeah, oh yeah,
all right. By the way, that sounded different for some reason.
I don't know why. Yeah, you know, a little bar
like what sounded so different about it? I don't know, man,
it sounded like it was probably the microphone placement. I
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don't know. It wasn't the microphone. I know what it is?
What was it? What was it? Because it's Brady's birthday,
John Snows, Joana Snows, I hate this. Just take it today.
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That's my shot it Mr b Kick. Actually it's kind
of good. It does I'm mad he could sound like
a woman sing like I had kicked before, I should
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have taken today. I'll just to afford this. Come on,
how do we sell the birthday? We're going We're going boom,
not a kid, not a cake guy, not a kid guy,
going going to uh, going to dinner. Actually, um, I
will say this. So last night, um, my my wife
threw me like a bit of a kind of surprised dinner.
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But it got it got ruined, and it was one
of the funniest things because one of my friends, who
I mean, he's a great guy, and obviously he had
no clue it was a surprise, right, like his wife
didn't tell him it was a surprise dinner. So we
pick up one of my buddies. He tells me like,
oh yeah, my wife is is going to meet us there.
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So it's me and my wife and my buddy driving
in and as we park and get out of the car,
my other buddies about I don't know, fifty yards away,
and I'm literally closing the door and goes, hey, hey, wait, hey,
hold on, hold on, and he's carrying a gift and
he goes keep it open, and I'm looking and I
see him and I'm like, okay, this is a bit
odd now, and now I'm starting to put two and
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two together and go, oh, she's she's trying to throw
me like a surprised little dinner thing. That's why this
other buddy's here right now. And so if it's awkward
because my wife doesn't know what to say, my buddy,
my other buddy who we drove with, is standing there.
He kind of starts to laugh, and I just I
don't really say anything because it's like the wheels are
working in my head. I'm like, okay. So then we
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go into the restaurant and the guy who wins the restaurant,
Joyous Busy, is a great guy. He takes us to
like a four top and I'm like, well, I know,
I'm not just eating with my two buddies and my wife.
So he so he tries to kind of play it off,
and then we eventually walked to a back room where
everyone else was. So it was just one of those
things though, but it's it was so funny to me,
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and it was. It was awesome. It was a nice gesture,
but even better, even better than my buddy Nick, who
had just no idea whatsoever, kind of ended up ruining
that surprise. But everyone everyone's got someone who does something
like that. No, no, awes, it was. It was hilarious
how it all happened. That he had no clue, So
it's just it was one of those things where it
was funny to see the reaction from his wife and
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him once he got into the room, because his wife
was already there obviously waiting. Well, hey, happy birthday, and
happy birthday was a little long Island and State college
with a candle sticking out of the top. What are
we thinking there, LaVar, those hice goblets. I mean, it's
his birthday, you know what I mean. So whatever he
wants to do and stay college, man, it will be
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given the fact that that's your trigger choice. Have you
ever done that, LaVar Island? I don't know that they've
had a floater that was the handle of the blow out,
and I think we were more interested to getting to
the fluid than um, you know, worrying about a candle. Yeah,
well yeah, there's uh, well, you know you can't celebrate
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because we do have some NFL action coming up later
on tonight. How bad it we got? We got a
juicy matchup here, We got the Ravens. We got the
struggling Buccaneers. I think I saw a statistic that Tampa
Bay hasn't lost three straight and over twenty years, if
I'm not mistaken, which seemed it seemed wrong. But I
saw it somewhere and I thought, are they are they
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talking about like Tom Brady hasn't lost three straight in
twenty years? Like that? It just it seemed wrong, But
that was something that was thrown out there. But nonetheless,
it is the ray Evens and the Buccaneers in Tampa
coming up later on tonight. For those of you degenerate
gamblers out there, And when we say the word degenerate,
we mean that in the politest, kindest way possible. The
Tampa Bay Buccaneers are a point and a half favorite
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at home on a short week against Lamar Jackson and
the Ravens. How we feel half they're a point and
half favorite. Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure. It's been kind
of floating there a little bit. I think it was
one yesterday maybe, and then I'm gonna moved to ticked
up a little. Yeah, Baltimore is now the underdog on
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Thursday Night. Makes sense. Road team Thursday Night. We've seen
how that's played out historically on Thursday night games. But
I'm a little surprised considering Tampa Bay's really banged up
and they have not looked good at all, and it
just it feels like this is a difficult spot. But
something tells me Tom Brady is gonna respond. Gut feeling, Yeah,
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gut feeling. I think Tom Brady respond LJ. No, that's
not listen live bet Jesus. I mean, you guys have
done all you can to try and bury him alive.
I just throw throw dirt on him, dollars, be passive
aggressive on the bath of l b J. Well. Um, So,
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how how do we feel about this game though? Because
it's kind of a kind of an interesting spot for Tampa.
Who's got all sorts of noise and questions? Was was
last week? I'll pose the question this way? Was the
loss of Carolina rock bottom for this team? Uh, it's
hard not to feel that way. I mean, you were
taking on you know, p J. Walker, who's I guess,
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a backup. I'm not even sure how you he might
be a third string if like Donald's healthy? Is Donald
the starter there? In Carolina? Um? And so, so there's
something to be said about that and saying I don't
even have a head coach. I think this game is
important for both teams. Though, if you look at Baltimore,
they've got to they've got to start putting together some
wins and and in particular, Lamar's got started looking better
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a for that huge contract he's gonna sign, but be
because Cincinnati started has started to turn it on, and
they've got a divisional game this week to on Monday
Night Football against the Browns, and I suspect the Bengals
the way they're playing, you're gonna take care of business.
So if if you look at where Baltimore is that
if they want to keep hanging around the division just
for a chance for winning it and even the playoff picture,
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they've got to start taking care of business with some
of these So, I mean, we could talk about Tampa
and what this game means to them, but let's be real.
I mean, they're they're winning the division right now at
three and four, like no one's running away with the
NFC South. So I don't know that it's his dire
that they get this win as compared to Baltimore starting
to stack up some wins right now. I'm glad you
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said it that way as well, because this is to me,
the first thing I thought about when I started looking
at the matchup was this is a prime um This
is a prime moment for a Lamar Jackson type esque
performance like and and maybe I don't know, maybe we
are at a point now where we're seeing the settling
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end to being what what it could possibly be in
it not not being so I don't know, like big
play driven by Lamar Jackson, you know, where where you
see the oo all type of plays more than you know,
more than two or three times during maybe a half
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of football. You know, maybe that's where we're getting to.
Maybe he's adjusting and adapting to being, you know, a
quarterback that throws the ball more. I don't I don't know,
but I feel like this is one of those types
of games where if he takes off and runs, it's
okay to to be okay with him taking off and running,
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you know, being being more of a playmaker versus you know,
trying to to to just dink and dunk. And I
feel like he's been dinking and dunking to his tight
end the entire sea and it hasn't been any real
like electrifying breakout moments that that we've seen from him
this this year. This to me, this one, this one
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kind of builds up to be that moment for you
to say on Amazon Prime, there comes Lamar Jackson and
here come those Baltimore Ravens. I mean, I'll put it
this way. The last three games, he's completed under six
percent of his passes. He hasn't passed for more than
two ten yards and that was a couple of couple
of weeks ago. And he's throwing two touchdown passes the
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two interceptions in the last three games. It's been a
there and and really going back past that, like he's
only thrown over three yards once this season. He started
off like if you just if you looked at his
first three weeks, he threw tent and touchdown. Since then,
like he's he's got a higher interception to touchdown ratio,
and it just hasn't looked the same. And they've been
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there like epitome of roller coaster one one lost one,
one one lost one. Cleveland did not look pretty at all. Um,
you know the Browns and Cade York in that whole situation,
and I I don't know, man, it has not looked
like I thought it was gonna look I was. I
liked the idea of Lamar Jackson coming in, betting on
himself and just running away and getting a brand new contract.
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Maybe that plays out if they win some games in
the postseason, But at this point, I don't think he's
proven anything on his side as far as deserving of
that Deshaun Watson type two thirty million dollar guarantee contract
or that he's going to get it. It just it
feels like he's in a tough spot. It always feels
like they're lacking on something. I mean, Rashod Bateman obviously
has has come along, and he's a piece that I
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think they're gonna have to rely on heavily to be
that wide receiver. That's I mean, it's one of the the
reasons why the Winds signed to Shawn Jackson, right. They
need some sort of speed there. And the answers was
held out a catch in last week's game, and he's
been like the number one target for him. So to
your point, it always feels like there's something missing in
the passing game. But I also don't know that you
ever kind of squarely point to Lamar and said, oh,
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it's him. It always feels like personnel wise, there's something
missing with this team at least for him to throw too.
And I don't look again, I don't know if it'll
ever be solved. You know, I'm not sure if that's
something you're ever going to figure out, but uh, that
they have not been able to throw the football consistently, well,
at least the last three maybe you'd say the last
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four weeks. You know, he's been efficient going back to
like that Buffalo loss, but outside of that, I mean,
I don't know, man, It's just it's been hard to
kind of scratch your head. But that's been his career
so far. Is you're always saying it's always something else
in events. You're like, well, he is the one consistent
piece in this offense that just hasn't been consistent passing.
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He's really fun to watch, the man, it's gonna be
it's gonna be fun to see how it shakes out tonight.
And then you get Tom Brady and that whole drama
and we get to see, uh what sort of interactions
he has with his offensive lineman and people are gonna
overreact to do you think Antonio Brown tweets during the
game tonight. She might show up. Yeah, that's a good point.
You know, you might see him run around point de
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robed that T shirt, which is with a woman. There's
a lot of a lot of potential there for some chaos.
So they be let me ask this, do do you
think it's the off the field stuff is playing a
role in Tom Brady's performance? I do. I do too, mean,
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it's it's hard not it's hard not to acknowledge that
because and people will be like, oh, he's a public figure.
They're used to it. Yeah, you're used to that when
things are going well. You're used to it when the
bad stuff starts coming out. But even if you're dealing
with bad stuff, the bad stuff personally that he's dealing with,
nobody's going to be used to that, you know, You're not.
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Like when you're talking about family issues and then those
those issues become public, the whoa, he's oh my gosh,
I mean all you said it yesterday. Like whether or
not there is anything they're legitimately with Antonio Brown and Giselle,
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it's it's still got a stink just to hear that. Yeah,
think about I mean, come on, man, we're all married here.
Could you imagine somebody that you befriended the way Tom
Brady did doing some stuff like that, and then he
was in your house. So then so no matter how,
no matter how secure you are as a man, in
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the back of your mind, you're like, hold up, did
I miss something there that trojan horses? What was? And
and if I did miss it? Did he really forget
his phone at the house when he went back that
one day? Did he forget his phone? B he was
he was staying there? That was jeter spot at that
place is so big. They got a west wing that,
like you know, Antonio Brown could be there and no
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one would know. All I'm saying is even if I'm
Tom Brady, I might feel like, well a certain type
of way, you know, and I ain't no killer, but
don't push me, you know what I mean. Like, that's
the one violation that it's that's a hard one, Like
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that is a hard violation even too, even to post
that and insinuate that that is a hard pill to swallow.
So whether anything and listen that that is what it is.
You know, that's that's out of my range. But for
him to do that, that's definitely a distraction the whole
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world consumed it. It's also like when they hear your
stories about how committed Brady is to the football season
and his rehab and all in the preparation for games,
there has to be at some point conversations he's got
to have with his kids trying to explain to what's
going on. Uh, like maybe they're seeing stuff for you know,
somebody in school sending him stuff for making comments. He's
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got to rest all that he does feel crazy. Yeah,
I mean that. Yeah, I mean that had to have
flying flying off the shelves. And I mean, you know,
school kids are are brutal, ruthless, they're brutal. So so
there's no telling how deep that rabbit hole went has
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gone for some of his kids. Like that's just and
and to think like people would be like, oh, it
would be so great to be Tom Brady's kids. Well
maybe not in moments like these, you know, And that's
said because that's collateral damage, like the A b's ignorant
ass think about that before he did that, you know,
those things like that, Like those are the things that
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make you like I don't care about you having antics
that that impact you personally, Like do you if you
want to. If you want to do that and and
ruin your reputation and ruin your own self image, that's
on you. If you want to be self you know, um,
you know, I don't know what it is self whatever,
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there you go, that's what I'm looking for. If you
want to do that, you go right ahead. And and
you know it's said you want to try to help
guys that are maybe crying out for help. But the
moment they do something like that, crying out for help
to me kind of like it's put to bed, Like
I don't feel sorry for you now, and I don't.
I'm not pulling for you to get the help you need,
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you know what I'm I'm pulling for you to shut up,
like you to stop, you know you you to do
something differently, You to take self accountability because now you're
impacting someone that means more to me than what you do.
And and my fellow man means a ton to me,
but what means more to me or the kids? So
when kids are impacted by things like that, you went
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wrong with me, and I think that that's where it
went over the line. So sorry for having a serious moment,
but but it definitely true. It definitely could be playing
a part. And why Tom Brady, you know, may not
be fully doubt in or be playing at the highest
level he could be playing at. Yeah, I mean I
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was gonna say, like, my kids aren't to that age yet,
Like they're at that age where I'm just kind of
joined the cuteness of how small they are. Like my
my daughter, my eldest had a they had like a
book thing. They had to go up on stage and
dress up as a character for a book. So she
was dressed up like a rabbit. She looked she honestly
looked like the kid from the Christmas Story. And the
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worst is like it was it was kind of warm
out and so she's got this like it's like a
fleece rabbit jumpsuit on and she's just sweating. I felt
so bad for um, but she went up on stage
and did her thing. But I was kind of think
to myself, man, like in that moment, you have all
these emotions of like just how proud you are and
how happen all that? I could only imagine like the
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day it comes home when someone says something they should
not be saying, whether boy, girl, whatever, Like I would
be on the war path, and so I could only imagine,
you know what that's like right now, dealing with that,
you know, giving his kids to your point, Lava are
old enough to be able to see and here and
and follow all that stuff. Yeah, it's brutal. By the way,
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Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Yeah. God,
you talk about a warm up song. What movie isn't this? Uh?
Is it old school? Yeah? Whether whether Steele McKinnon and
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he's like, I'm sorry we were turning them. Later on
they shove with the van. I remember this because I
walked into the way of Dublin coffin high back in
the day and I saw the quarterback. He was literally
thrown around a hundred and ten pound medicine ball to
this song. One of the most impressive things I've ever seen.
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Just to warm up more patent go lines. It's crazy.
Just checked. Yeah, just offan swolld medicine bowl. Yeah, just
a warmups. It's just called a rock. That's not actually
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One of the favorites of this show. If you into
this show, if you are a regular, a junkie of
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this show. Uh, there is somebody that has brought up
quite often and we're going to get to see more
of them, all right, So we'll get into that for
you here a little over fifteen minutes from now, in
another edition of In Case you missed It, Aaron Rodgers
spoke yesterday. He was standing outside his locker. He spoke
with the media, and uh, you know, there was some
comments that were made some people that were very critical
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of his assessment of teammates that maybe weren't performing or
weren't executing the plays and maybe they not need not
to be out there. That was some stuff that he
said on the Pat mcavie show. So Rogers addressed some
of his words and some of the feedback he's gotten
here was the Packers quarterback. I'm not saying thing on
Pat that I'm not saying to those guys. But maybe
that's talking about a conversation that's behind closed doors in public.
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But you know, the level of accountability is the standard here. Again,
I don't think it's it should be a problem to
any of those guys to hear criticism. I'm calling things
the way I see it. People don't think I need
to hear that stuff. That's their opinion. I'm doing what
I think is the best terue of our guys. I've
tried a lot of different things from a leadership standpoint
this year, and you know, I was just relating my
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personal feelings in the situation. One of those guys has
a problem with it. I'm right there, and I'd love
to have a conversation. I enjoyed those conversations, you know,
but nobody's coming to me and said I got a
problem with what you said. I think everybody knows, Matt included.
You know, everything's gotta gotta take a little up to
get a little better. It. So, Matt lafora you think
he's being passive aggressive there as hell? Yeah, okay, I
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mean I don't what's if he criticizes some guys and
he's doing it the same thing behind closed doors, what's
the problem? I mean, it's what it's I think it's
constructive criticism. I think people look at it his criticism
like he's not trying to provide them feedback or hey,
look clearly like you're you're not understanding what we're asking
for a looking for out of this. This is what
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I need from you. This is what he's not just saying, yeah,
you stink, He's not just criticizing the play and not
giving him a solution, Like that's the difference here. I
also think it's interesting, like people on the outside are
going to criticize him. He's a back to back m
v P He's had a Hall of Fame career and
all he's trying to do is win now. And what
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he's doing is providing you a peek behind the closed
doors of what the conversation is. Like the people on
the outside are criticizing him for this, Yet how how
often do we get a player who's as open and
honest as Aaron Rodgers is, whether it's about doing ashwa
tonga or whatever the hell it's called, or I mean
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literally his contract situation, whatever, whatever the stuff he's takenaka
ayahuasca whatever, I mean, it could be dirt water from one.
All I'm saying is we're getting a sneak peek into
all this. Like I don't recall many players ever in
any sport who like open things up. But they're just like, yeah, man,
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it's all out there. Well, I'm willing to talk about whatever,
even if it's criticizing or the criticism that I've given
my my own teammates or said behind closed doors, because
it's not just criticism, it's constructive criticism. Like we got
a lot of football left. I want us to be better.
They need to be better, you know. I mean, he
didn't say I need to be better but I think
that's the only thing that comes off a little bit like, Okay,
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have you played your best ball? Have you played to
an m v P standard? And I don't know, maybe
he's he's saying I've graded out fine or I've that
hasn't been the case. But I think that's the only
thing that has rubbed people the wrong way is the
fact that he's not saying like I should be better too.
It just seems like it's kind of everyone else around him.
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That's the key that that that's that's the biggest point
of it all. And and and maybe he has maybe
that's he's insinuating that is as well. Maybe he's not.
I don't know. But when you when you go on
that when you go on that path and you start
introducing the evidence that way in the media, and then
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you bring your coach into it, that meant that means
my head coach to what what did he reference him as?
That means uh, Mike or you know what Matt? I mean, yeah,
it means Matt too. Like I just you know, times
are changing. I'll say that, um, figureheads. You know, sports
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players have more of a voice than than what you've
ever heard before in in in the history of the
of sports in general. So when you're using and you're
leveraging the media the way that some of these guys
are using and leveraging the media, I get it, like
that's the evolution of of everything that's going on. And
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Aaron Rodgers is one of those guys that he's polarizing.
He says things in a way where he's very aware
of how he's presenting, what he's thinking, and what he's feeling. Um,
I generally think, and I've never you know, I've never
even met him, but I generally think when I listened
to his inner views, he one executes a a well
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thought out explanation before he cracks a microphone. So so
whatever his agenda is or whatever it is he's hoping
to get accomplished, I think he believes he gets that
done in his own mind. So I mean, when that
happens and you call, like he called out the organization
before he got his contract, that was calculated? Was he
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coming back? That was calculated? Now he's talking about doing better,
and you're you're right. I mean, it's seemingly more about
the mistakes that other people are making, and including my
head coach. But if he's not making a hundred fifty
million guaranteed the next you know, this year, next two
years is he is he making these comments because he's
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a paid where he I mean, there's really nothing the
organization can do, like they empowered him to be in
this position where he's the top guy there. I mean,
Matt Laflour would be lucky in his career to make
a Rogers is getting that in the next three years.
But then again, maybe he would. I mean, he fried
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the front office. They fried the front office without that contract.
And also, let's just call it what it is. No
matter what he says, whether it's on Pat McAfee show
standing in front of his locker, somebody's going to have
a problem with it somewhere, because a lot of people
just don't like him, Like I think that's the point
he was making. They just don't like him. They don't
(28:33):
like they don't like whether it goes back to the
COVID stuff or they say he's passive aggressive or whatever,
like the people have already built and and already drawn
a line in the sand. No matter what he says,
we've got a problem with because if he came out
and gave some canned answer and wasn't as as fourth
right or as honest as he has been, or as
detailed with his answers. They would look at him and say, oh,
of course he's gonna give these boring answers, but what
(28:55):
does he really mean? So then he goes the opposite
of that, and then they got a problem with that too.
They're just going to find something wrong with the guy.
And I think if you guys are like passive aggressive
together when you think you're defending hell, yeah, of course,
I mean, I know what it's like, man, I don't.
It's like to try and you know, give an honest,
yeah something your greatness and that there's mediocrity around you
(29:18):
and you just got to call it out for what
it is. And if somebody has a problem with it,
you know, you're right there. I mean, I'm not smoking
sand weed or whatever it is he got into, you know,
in the off season. But again, that's fine. I did
see a stat that how many games they played so far?
Seven seven or seven games I think in in and
(29:38):
this is like one of those PFF stats right that,
which I'm not sure if you ever read their twitter feeds,
it's they get really really specific on Pro Football Focus,
like they'll they'll set out a tweet like this, this
team is the best team in the red zone inside
the ten with two minutes to play, in eleven personnel
(29:58):
throwing five yard it passes that end up running in
the end zone for a touchdown and you're like, wow,
that was really descriptive and I'm not sure what the
hell that just told me. I digress. This one was
interesting though. They were tracking like the amount of times
that a player has been opened downfield, so over twenty
yards downfield for Rogers in his first seven games, it
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was six times. So if you go back to last year,
so six times this season they've been able to get
someone running free downfield over twenty yards. That's it. It's
it's the fewest in the league. And just to put
it into comparison, like last year, by this point, Davanta
Adams alone was was open down field like that eight times,
(30:44):
So there is there's obviously obviously something to the fact
that whether it's scheme and they're not figuring out ways
of scheming guys open, or just the personnel and those
guys aren't able to get open the way they have
in the past, or maybe it's defense adjusting. You know,
it's hard to tell. I mean, he is the two
time m VP. I think everyone looks at him and goes, yeah,
we'd rather them hand off the Aaron Jones and j
(31:05):
dealing every time. But whatever the case may be, there's
obviously a lot that needs to improve. It needs to
be fixed that they're gonna get this thing back going
in the right direction. Well, I mean, I I do
feel like, you know, there's a solution here. You know,
our friends listening on the game in Wisconsin right now,
there's a solution. I mean, if you want to bring
back an oldie but a goodie, why not Greg Jennings.
I mean, I think he'd be open minded to plan
(31:25):
with Aaron Rodgers again, don't you think. I mean, it
seems he didn't. He didn't eric him out. As they
got they got I mean, they got a great relationship,
don't they. It seems like they're getting along, so I mean,
why not, like go back to Greg Jennings. It seems
like makes all the sense in the world there. It
is odd though, it's like at something, Yeah, I'll gladly
pay that. I will gladly pay that ten dollars. Absolutely
(31:49):
I've then they've something fell apart. There's something unraveled between
those two guys, because every time it pops up Greg Jennings,
he's got something to say about Aaron Rodgers. I bet
great Jennings one time could not have been Yeah, he
signed with Minnesota and he signed with the division rival.
He never had a year at that point his crew
(32:10):
the rest of the way that was even close to
what he did in Green Bay. Yeah. I mean he's
a really nice guy. Like I mean, it's like a
super nice guy. It's just weird to see their dynamic
and how that's all played. Bodybuilder now Day's in great
shape by the way. He's jacked. You talking about a
strict diet. He doesn't eat like he won't touch a sweet.
He won't touch anything that's outside what he is totally
(32:32):
set on on on his diet, whatever he's in taking
at that time, No sweet, nothing's going to get in
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Out for Justice, Mark for Death, Hard to Kill, Like,
it's all the same copycat movie and he must have
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it's just yeah, like a gee and it's always black. Uh,
and he always finds himself dealing with some drug dealer
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(37:16):
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hell no, that's that's my one wish for The only
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get back on the only way that's gonna happen. How's
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won't let it go for me. I'm not wishing that
for Dave Roberts, but um I do want Roberto back
on Twitter. He's a man of principal though. He told
everybody and they thought, nah, he'll be back, and he
said it. By the way, that was two series ago. Like,
there's already guys that are going on Twitter for the
Dodgers announcing they're no longer going to be with the team,
and Berno still is holding out a day of Roberts
(38:00):
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what's the show on TLC? What is she doing? The
Copal sisters? It's like a reality show. Yeah, by the way,
one of her sisters. I don't know how many of
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in on just for the astros so and this is like,
(38:47):
I don't understand how is he pulling this off because
he makes all these big bets. Is it like, is
he still doing the deal where he gives away free
furniture if they don't win or how does this work out? Correct? Yeah,
that's that's what he would use those winnings fours if
they did win. Everyone in Houston who buys furniture would
h we'll get their money back, and he would use
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he said. Well, I'm I'm just saying like he doesn't.
He doesn't actually like when he's got a good bet
where he could win that usually people offset and so
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com the way tire buying should be. Yeah, oh yeah,
all right. By the way, that sounded different for some reason.
I don't know why. Yeah, you know, a little bar
like what sounded so different about it? I don't know, man,
it sounded like it was probably the microphone placement. I
(01:47):
don't know. It wasn't the microphone. I know what it is?
What was it? What was it? Because it's Brady's birthday,
John Snows, Joana Snows, I hate this. Just take it today.
(02:07):
That's my shot it Mr b Kick. Actually it's kind
of good. It does I'm mad he could sound like
a woman sing like I had kicked before, I should
(02:38):
have taken today. I'll just to afford this. Come on,
how do we sell the birthday? We're going We're going boom,
not a kid, not a cake guy, not a kid guy,
going going to uh, going to dinner. Actually, um, I
will say this. So last night, um, my my wife
threw me like a bit of a kind of surprised dinner.
(03:00):
But it got it got ruined, and it was one
of the funniest things because one of my friends, who
I mean, he's a great guy, and obviously he had
no clue it was a surprise, right, like his wife
didn't tell him it was a surprise dinner. So we
pick up one of my buddies. He tells me like,
oh yeah, my wife is is going to meet us there.
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So it's me and my wife and my buddy driving
in and as we park and get out of the car,
my other buddies about I don't know, fifty yards away,
and I'm literally closing the door and goes, hey, hey, wait, hey,
hold on, hold on, and he's carrying a gift and
he goes keep it open, and I'm looking and I
see him and I'm like, okay, this is a bit
odd now, and now I'm starting to put two and
(03:42):
two together and go, oh, she's she's trying to throw
me like a surprised little dinner thing. That's why this
other buddy's here right now. And so if it's awkward
because my wife doesn't know what to say, my buddy,
my other buddy who we drove with, is standing there.
He kind of starts to laugh, and I just I
don't really say anything because it's like the wheels are
working in my head. I'm like, okay. So then we
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go into the restaurant and the guy who wins the restaurant,
Joyous Busy, is a great guy. He takes us to
like a four top and I'm like, well, I know,
I'm not just eating with my two buddies and my wife.
So he so he tries to kind of play it off,
and then we eventually walked to a back room where
everyone else was. So it was just one of those
things though, but it's it was so funny to me,
(04:24):
and it was. It was awesome. It was a nice gesture,
but even better, even better than my buddy Nick, who
had just no idea whatsoever, kind of ended up ruining
that surprise. But everyone everyone's got someone who does something
like that. No, no, awes, it was. It was hilarious
how it all happened. That he had no clue, So
it's just it was one of those things where it
was funny to see the reaction from his wife and
(04:46):
him once he got into the room, because his wife
was already there obviously waiting. Well, hey, happy birthday, and
happy birthday was a little long Island and State college
with a candle sticking out of the top. What are
we thinking there, LaVar, those hice goblets. I mean, it's
his birthday, you know what I mean. So whatever he
wants to do and stay college, man, it will be
(05:08):
given the fact that that's your trigger choice. Have you
ever done that, LaVar Island? I don't know that they've
had a floater that was the handle of the blow out,
and I think we were more interested to getting to
the fluid than um, you know, worrying about a candle. Yeah,
well yeah, there's uh, well, you know you can't celebrate
(05:30):
because we do have some NFL action coming up later
on tonight. How bad it we got? We got a
juicy matchup here, We got the Ravens. We got the
struggling Buccaneers. I think I saw a statistic that Tampa
Bay hasn't lost three straight and over twenty years, if
I'm not mistaken, which seemed it seemed wrong. But I
saw it somewhere and I thought, are they are they
(05:51):
talking about like Tom Brady hasn't lost three straight in
twenty years? Like that? It just it seemed wrong, But
that was something that was thrown out there. But nonetheless,
it is the ray Evens and the Buccaneers in Tampa
coming up later on tonight. For those of you degenerate
gamblers out there, And when we say the word degenerate,
we mean that in the politest, kindest way possible. The
Tampa Bay Buccaneers are a point and a half favorite
(06:13):
at home on a short week against Lamar Jackson and
the Ravens. How we feel half they're a point and
half favorite. Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure. It's been kind
of floating there a little bit. I think it was
one yesterday maybe, and then I'm gonna moved to ticked
up a little. Yeah, Baltimore is now the underdog on
(06:35):
Thursday Night. Makes sense. Road team Thursday Night. We've seen
how that's played out historically on Thursday night games. But
I'm a little surprised considering Tampa Bay's really banged up
and they have not looked good at all, and it
just it feels like this is a difficult spot. But
something tells me Tom Brady is gonna respond. Gut feeling, Yeah,
(06:55):
gut feeling. I think Tom Brady respond LJ. No, that's
not listen live bet Jesus. I mean, you guys have
done all you can to try and bury him alive.
I just throw throw dirt on him, dollars, be passive
aggressive on the bath of l b J. Well. Um, So,
(07:19):
how how do we feel about this game though? Because
it's kind of a kind of an interesting spot for Tampa.
Who's got all sorts of noise and questions? Was was
last week? I'll pose the question this way? Was the
loss of Carolina rock bottom for this team? Uh, it's
hard not to feel that way. I mean, you were
taking on you know, p J. Walker, who's I guess,
(07:39):
a backup. I'm not even sure how you he might
be a third string if like Donald's healthy? Is Donald
the starter there? In Carolina? Um? And so, so there's
something to be said about that and saying I don't
even have a head coach. I think this game is
important for both teams. Though, if you look at Baltimore,
they've got to they've got to start putting together some
wins and and in particular, Lamar's got started looking better
(08:00):
a for that huge contract he's gonna sign, but be
because Cincinnati started has started to turn it on, and
they've got a divisional game this week to on Monday
Night Football against the Browns, and I suspect the Bengals
the way they're playing, you're gonna take care of business.
So if if you look at where Baltimore is that
if they want to keep hanging around the division just
for a chance for winning it and even the playoff picture,
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they've got to start taking care of business with some
of these So, I mean, we could talk about Tampa
and what this game means to them, but let's be real.
I mean, they're they're winning the division right now at
three and four, like no one's running away with the
NFC South. So I don't know that it's his dire
that they get this win as compared to Baltimore starting
to stack up some wins right now. I'm glad you
(08:42):
said it that way as well, because this is to me,
the first thing I thought about when I started looking
at the matchup was this is a prime um This
is a prime moment for a Lamar Jackson type esque
performance like and and maybe I don't know, maybe we
are at a point now where we're seeing the settling
(09:05):
end to being what what it could possibly be in
it not not being so I don't know, like big
play driven by Lamar Jackson, you know, where where you
see the oo all type of plays more than you know,
more than two or three times during maybe a half
(09:27):
of football. You know, maybe that's where we're getting to.
Maybe he's adjusting and adapting to being, you know, a
quarterback that throws the ball more. I don't I don't know,
but I feel like this is one of those types
of games where if he takes off and runs, it's
okay to to be okay with him taking off and running,
(09:47):
you know, being being more of a playmaker versus you know,
trying to to to just dink and dunk. And I
feel like he's been dinking and dunking to his tight
end the entire sea and it hasn't been any real
like electrifying breakout moments that that we've seen from him
this this year. This to me, this one, this one
(10:11):
kind of builds up to be that moment for you
to say on Amazon Prime, there comes Lamar Jackson and
here come those Baltimore Ravens. I mean, I'll put it
this way. The last three games, he's completed under six
percent of his passes. He hasn't passed for more than
two ten yards and that was a couple of couple
of weeks ago. And he's throwing two touchdown passes the
(10:32):
two interceptions in the last three games. It's been a
there and and really going back past that, like he's
only thrown over three yards once this season. He started
off like if you just if you looked at his
first three weeks, he threw tent and touchdown. Since then,
like he's he's got a higher interception to touchdown ratio,
and it just hasn't looked the same. And they've been
(10:54):
there like epitome of roller coaster one one lost one,
one one lost one. Cleveland did not look pretty at all. Um,
you know the Browns and Cade York in that whole situation,
and I I don't know, man, it has not looked
like I thought it was gonna look I was. I
liked the idea of Lamar Jackson coming in, betting on
himself and just running away and getting a brand new contract.
(11:14):
Maybe that plays out if they win some games in
the postseason, But at this point, I don't think he's
proven anything on his side as far as deserving of
that Deshaun Watson type two thirty million dollar guarantee contract
or that he's going to get it. It just it
feels like he's in a tough spot. It always feels
like they're lacking on something. I mean, Rashod Bateman obviously
has has come along, and he's a piece that I
(11:36):
think they're gonna have to rely on heavily to be
that wide receiver. That's I mean, it's one of the the
reasons why the Winds signed to Shawn Jackson, right. They
need some sort of speed there. And the answers was
held out a catch in last week's game, and he's
been like the number one target for him. So to
your point, it always feels like there's something missing in
the passing game. But I also don't know that you
ever kind of squarely point to Lamar and said, oh,
(11:58):
it's him. It always feels like personnel wise, there's something
missing with this team at least for him to throw too.
And I don't look again, I don't know if it'll
ever be solved. You know, I'm not sure if that's
something you're ever going to figure out, but uh, that
they have not been able to throw the football consistently, well,
at least the last three maybe you'd say the last
(12:19):
four weeks. You know, he's been efficient going back to
like that Buffalo loss, but outside of that, I mean,
I don't know, man, It's just it's been hard to
kind of scratch your head. But that's been his career
so far. Is you're always saying it's always something else
in events. You're like, well, he is the one consistent
piece in this offense that just hasn't been consistent passing.
(12:40):
He's really fun to watch, the man, it's gonna be
it's gonna be fun to see how it shakes out tonight.
And then you get Tom Brady and that whole drama
and we get to see, uh what sort of interactions
he has with his offensive lineman and people are gonna
overreact to do you think Antonio Brown tweets during the
game tonight. She might show up. Yeah, that's a good point.
You know, you might see him run around point de
(13:00):
robed that T shirt, which is with a woman. There's
a lot of a lot of potential there for some chaos.
So they be let me ask this, do do you
think it's the off the field stuff is playing a
role in Tom Brady's performance? I do. I do too, mean,
(13:24):
it's it's hard not it's hard not to acknowledge that
because and people will be like, oh, he's a public figure.
They're used to it. Yeah, you're used to that when
things are going well. You're used to it when the
bad stuff starts coming out. But even if you're dealing
with bad stuff, the bad stuff personally that he's dealing with,
nobody's going to be used to that, you know, You're not.
(13:45):
Like when you're talking about family issues and then those
those issues become public, the whoa, he's oh my gosh,
I mean all you said it yesterday. Like whether or
not there is anything they're legitimately with Antonio Brown and Giselle,
(14:06):
it's it's still got a stink just to hear that. Yeah,
think about I mean, come on, man, we're all married here.
Could you imagine somebody that you befriended the way Tom
Brady did doing some stuff like that, and then he
was in your house. So then so no matter how,
no matter how secure you are as a man, in
(14:30):
the back of your mind, you're like, hold up, did
I miss something there that trojan horses? What was? And
and if I did miss it? Did he really forget
his phone at the house when he went back that
one day? Did he forget his phone? B he was
he was staying there? That was jeter spot at that
place is so big. They got a west wing that,
like you know, Antonio Brown could be there and no
(14:52):
one would know. All I'm saying is even if I'm
Tom Brady, I might feel like, well a certain type
of way, you know, and I ain't no killer, but
don't push me, you know what I mean. Like, that's
the one violation that it's that's a hard one, Like
(15:13):
that is a hard violation even too, even to post
that and insinuate that that is a hard pill to swallow.
So whether anything and listen that that is what it is.
You know, that's that's out of my range. But for
him to do that, that's definitely a distraction the whole
(15:37):
world consumed it. It's also like when they hear your
stories about how committed Brady is to the football season
and his rehab and all in the preparation for games,
there has to be at some point conversations he's got
to have with his kids trying to explain to what's
going on. Uh, like maybe they're seeing stuff for you know,
somebody in school sending him stuff for making comments. He's
(15:59):
got to rest all that he does feel crazy. Yeah,
I mean that. Yeah, I mean that had to have
flying flying off the shelves. And I mean, you know,
school kids are are brutal, ruthless, they're brutal. So so
there's no telling how deep that rabbit hole went has
(16:21):
gone for some of his kids. Like that's just and
and to think like people would be like, oh, it
would be so great to be Tom Brady's kids. Well
maybe not in moments like these, you know, And that's
said because that's collateral damage, like the A b's ignorant
ass think about that before he did that, you know,
those things like that, Like those are the things that
(16:41):
make you like I don't care about you having antics
that that impact you personally, Like do you if you
want to. If you want to do that and and
ruin your reputation and ruin your own self image, that's
on you. If you want to be self you know, um,
you know, I don't know what it is self whatever,
(17:02):
there you go, that's what I'm looking for. If you
want to do that, you go right ahead. And and
you know it's said you want to try to help
guys that are maybe crying out for help. But the
moment they do something like that, crying out for help
to me kind of like it's put to bed, Like
I don't feel sorry for you now, and I don't.
I'm not pulling for you to get the help you need,
(17:24):
you know what I'm I'm pulling for you to shut up,
like you to stop, you know you you to do
something differently, You to take self accountability because now you're
impacting someone that means more to me than what you do.
And and my fellow man means a ton to me,
but what means more to me or the kids? So
when kids are impacted by things like that, you went
(17:46):
wrong with me, and I think that that's where it
went over the line. So sorry for having a serious moment,
but but it definitely true. It definitely could be playing
a part. And why Tom Brady, you know, may not
be fully doubt in or be playing at the highest
level he could be playing at. Yeah, I mean I
(18:06):
was gonna say, like, my kids aren't to that age yet,
Like they're at that age where I'm just kind of
joined the cuteness of how small they are. Like my
my daughter, my eldest had a they had like a
book thing. They had to go up on stage and
dress up as a character for a book. So she
was dressed up like a rabbit. She looked she honestly
looked like the kid from the Christmas Story. And the
(18:27):
worst is like it was it was kind of warm
out and so she's got this like it's like a
fleece rabbit jumpsuit on and she's just sweating. I felt
so bad for um, but she went up on stage
and did her thing. But I was kind of think
to myself, man, like in that moment, you have all
these emotions of like just how proud you are and
how happen all that? I could only imagine like the
(18:50):
day it comes home when someone says something they should
not be saying, whether boy, girl, whatever, Like I would
be on the war path, and so I could only imagine,
you know what that's like right now, dealing with that,
you know, giving his kids to your point, Lava are
old enough to be able to see and here and
and follow all that stuff. Yeah, it's brutal. By the way,
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you talk about a warm up song. What movie isn't this? Uh?
Is it old school? Yeah? Whether whether Steele McKinnon and
(20:38):
he's like, I'm sorry we were turning them. Later on
they shove with the van. I remember this because I
walked into the way of Dublin coffin high back in
the day and I saw the quarterback. He was literally
thrown around a hundred and ten pound medicine ball to
this song. One of the most impressive things I've ever seen.
(20:59):
Just to warm up more patent go lines. It's crazy.
Just checked. Yeah, just offan swolld medicine bowl. Yeah, just
a warmups. It's just called a rock. That's not actually
a thing, just a warm up for bat and gul
Just a rock it is. By the way, this is
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One of the favorites of this show. If you into
this show, if you are a regular, a junkie of
(22:02):
this show. Uh, there is somebody that has brought up
quite often and we're going to get to see more
of them, all right, So we'll get into that for
you here a little over fifteen minutes from now, in
another edition of In Case you missed It, Aaron Rodgers
spoke yesterday. He was standing outside his locker. He spoke
with the media, and uh, you know, there was some
comments that were made some people that were very critical
(22:22):
of his assessment of teammates that maybe weren't performing or
weren't executing the plays and maybe they not need not
to be out there. That was some stuff that he
said on the Pat mcavie show. So Rogers addressed some
of his words and some of the feedback he's gotten
here was the Packers quarterback. I'm not saying thing on
Pat that I'm not saying to those guys. But maybe
that's talking about a conversation that's behind closed doors in public.
(22:46):
But you know, the level of accountability is the standard here. Again,
I don't think it's it should be a problem to
any of those guys to hear criticism. I'm calling things
the way I see it. People don't think I need
to hear that stuff. That's their opinion. I'm doing what
I think is the best terue of our guys. I've
tried a lot of different things from a leadership standpoint
this year, and you know, I was just relating my
(23:08):
personal feelings in the situation. One of those guys has
a problem with it. I'm right there, and I'd love
to have a conversation. I enjoyed those conversations, you know,
but nobody's coming to me and said I got a
problem with what you said. I think everybody knows, Matt included.
You know, everything's gotta gotta take a little up to
get a little better. It. So, Matt lafora you think
he's being passive aggressive there as hell? Yeah, okay, I
(23:32):
mean I don't what's if he criticizes some guys and
he's doing it the same thing behind closed doors, what's
the problem? I mean, it's what it's I think it's
constructive criticism. I think people look at it his criticism
like he's not trying to provide them feedback or hey,
look clearly like you're you're not understanding what we're asking
for a looking for out of this. This is what
(23:53):
I need from you. This is what he's not just saying, yeah,
you stink, He's not just criticizing the play and not
giving him a solution, Like that's the difference here. I
also think it's interesting, like people on the outside are
going to criticize him. He's a back to back m
v P He's had a Hall of Fame career and
all he's trying to do is win now. And what
(24:13):
he's doing is providing you a peek behind the closed
doors of what the conversation is. Like the people on
the outside are criticizing him for this, Yet how how
often do we get a player who's as open and
honest as Aaron Rodgers is, whether it's about doing ashwa
tonga or whatever the hell it's called, or I mean
(24:34):
literally his contract situation, whatever, whatever the stuff he's takenaka
ayahuasca whatever, I mean, it could be dirt water from one.
All I'm saying is we're getting a sneak peek into
all this. Like I don't recall many players ever in
any sport who like open things up. But they're just like, yeah, man,
(24:54):
it's all out there. Well, I'm willing to talk about whatever,
even if it's criticizing or the criticism that I've given
my my own teammates or said behind closed doors, because
it's not just criticism, it's constructive criticism. Like we got
a lot of football left. I want us to be better.
They need to be better, you know. I mean, he
didn't say I need to be better but I think
that's the only thing that comes off a little bit like, Okay,
(25:16):
have you played your best ball? Have you played to
an m v P standard? And I don't know, maybe
he's he's saying I've graded out fine or I've that
hasn't been the case. But I think that's the only
thing that has rubbed people the wrong way is the
fact that he's not saying like I should be better too.
It just seems like it's kind of everyone else around him.
(25:37):
That's the key that that that's that's the biggest point
of it all. And and and maybe he has maybe
that's he's insinuating that is as well. Maybe he's not.
I don't know. But when you when you go on
that when you go on that path and you start
introducing the evidence that way in the media, and then
(25:57):
you bring your coach into it, that meant that means
my head coach to what what did he reference him as?
That means uh, Mike or you know what Matt? I mean, yeah,
it means Matt too. Like I just you know, times
are changing. I'll say that, um, figureheads. You know, sports
(26:20):
players have more of a voice than than what you've
ever heard before in in in the history of the
of sports in general. So when you're using and you're
leveraging the media the way that some of these guys
are using and leveraging the media, I get it, like
that's the evolution of of everything that's going on. And
(26:40):
Aaron Rodgers is one of those guys that he's polarizing.
He says things in a way where he's very aware
of how he's presenting, what he's thinking, and what he's feeling. Um,
I generally think, and I've never you know, I've never
even met him, but I generally think when I listened
to his inner views, he one executes a a well
(27:05):
thought out explanation before he cracks a microphone. So so
whatever his agenda is or whatever it is he's hoping
to get accomplished, I think he believes he gets that
done in his own mind. So I mean, when that
happens and you call, like he called out the organization
before he got his contract, that was calculated? Was he
(27:27):
coming back? That was calculated? Now he's talking about doing better,
and you're you're right. I mean, it's seemingly more about
the mistakes that other people are making, and including my
head coach. But if he's not making a hundred fifty
million guaranteed the next you know, this year, next two
years is he is he making these comments because he's
(27:50):
a paid where he I mean, there's really nothing the
organization can do, like they empowered him to be in
this position where he's the top guy there. I mean,
Matt Laflour would be lucky in his career to make
a Rogers is getting that in the next three years.
But then again, maybe he would. I mean, he fried
(28:12):
the front office. They fried the front office without that contract.
And also, let's just call it what it is. No
matter what he says, whether it's on Pat McAfee show
standing in front of his locker, somebody's going to have
a problem with it somewhere, because a lot of people
just don't like him, Like I think that's the point
he was making. They just don't like him. They don't
(28:33):
like they don't like whether it goes back to the
COVID stuff or they say he's passive aggressive or whatever,
like the people have already built and and already drawn
a line in the sand. No matter what he says,
we've got a problem with because if he came out
and gave some canned answer and wasn't as as fourth
right or as honest as he has been, or as
detailed with his answers. They would look at him and say, oh,
of course he's gonna give these boring answers, but what
(28:55):
does he really mean? So then he goes the opposite
of that, and then they got a problem with that too.
They're just going to find something wrong with the guy.
And I think if you guys are like passive aggressive
together when you think you're defending hell, yeah, of course,
I mean, I know what it's like, man, I don't.
It's like to try and you know, give an honest,
yeah something your greatness and that there's mediocrity around you
(29:18):
and you just got to call it out for what
it is. And if somebody has a problem with it,
you know, you're right there. I mean, I'm not smoking
sand weed or whatever it is he got into, you know,
in the off season. But again, that's fine. I did
see a stat that how many games they played so far?
Seven seven or seven games I think in in and
(29:38):
this is like one of those PFF stats right that,
which I'm not sure if you ever read their twitter feeds,
it's they get really really specific on Pro Football Focus,
like they'll they'll set out a tweet like this, this
team is the best team in the red zone inside
the ten with two minutes to play, in eleven personnel
(29:58):
throwing five yard it passes that end up running in
the end zone for a touchdown and you're like, wow,
that was really descriptive and I'm not sure what the
hell that just told me. I digress. This one was
interesting though. They were tracking like the amount of times
that a player has been opened downfield, so over twenty
yards downfield for Rogers in his first seven games, it
(30:21):
was six times. So if you go back to last year,
so six times this season they've been able to get
someone running free downfield over twenty yards. That's it. It's
it's the fewest in the league. And just to put
it into comparison, like last year, by this point, Davanta
Adams alone was was open down field like that eight times,
(30:44):
So there is there's obviously obviously something to the fact
that whether it's scheme and they're not figuring out ways
of scheming guys open, or just the personnel and those
guys aren't able to get open the way they have
in the past, or maybe it's defense adjusting. You know,
it's hard to tell. I mean, he is the two
time m VP. I think everyone looks at him and goes, yeah,
we'd rather them hand off the Aaron Jones and j
(31:05):
dealing every time. But whatever the case may be, there's
obviously a lot that needs to improve. It needs to
be fixed that they're gonna get this thing back going
in the right direction. Well, I mean, I I do
feel like, you know, there's a solution here. You know,
our friends listening on the game in Wisconsin right now,
there's a solution. I mean, if you want to bring
back an oldie but a goodie, why not Greg Jennings.
I mean, I think he'd be open minded to plan
(31:25):
with Aaron Rodgers again, don't you think. I mean, it
seems he didn't. He didn't eric him out. As they
got they got I mean, they got a great relationship,
don't they. It seems like they're getting along, so I mean,
why not, like go back to Greg Jennings. It seems
like makes all the sense in the world there. It
is odd though, it's like at something, Yeah, I'll gladly
pay that. I will gladly pay that ten dollars. Absolutely
(31:49):
I've then they've something fell apart. There's something unraveled between
those two guys, because every time it pops up Greg Jennings,
he's got something to say about Aaron Rodgers. I bet
great Jennings one time could not have been Yeah, he
signed with Minnesota and he signed with the division rival.
He never had a year at that point his crew
(32:10):
the rest of the way that was even close to
what he did in Green Bay. Yeah. I mean he's
a really nice guy. Like I mean, it's like a
super nice guy. It's just weird to see their dynamic
and how that's all played. Bodybuilder now Day's in great
shape by the way. He's jacked. You talking about a
strict diet. He doesn't eat like he won't touch a sweet.
He won't touch anything that's outside what he is totally
(32:32):
set on on on his diet, whatever he's in taking
at that time, No sweet, nothing's going to get in
the way. Just Jack shredded, he said, Brady Man, that's
had some last night. Uh, it is two pros and
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(34:02):
but I've been low key okay. By the way, there's
a Steven Seagal movie on TV one of the screw Face.
It's literally the same movie. All of his movies are
the same. My dad loves Steven Seagal movies. My mom
hated him and we watched them and it was always
(34:24):
Out for Justice, Mark for Death, Hard to Kill, Like,
it's all the same copycat movie and he must have
made a fortune off. He always the same outfits to
it's just yeah, like a gee and it's always black. Uh,
and he always finds himself dealing with some drug dealer
(34:45):
who's not white. It was so he started doing it
in real life. He didn't though karate or come through
whatever it is. I forget what he practices, but yeah,
the word is that he is legit it. But when
he goes and does these like showcases, it's basically choreographed
(35:06):
with the guys that are taking dives for him. So
like like he tried to like show ever get who
it was. It was like some m M M A fighter.
He tried to show them some sort of a kick
to use in their fight, and they just kind of
looked at him like dudey, seriously, this is not gonna
work in real life, but oh man, I'm curious. I
wonder how much money that guy made? Uh good for it. Multimillionaire,
(35:29):
gotta be. That's Steven Seagal. No oscars, but a lot
of money, all right. Uh it is two pros and
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Howard and Christian McCaffrey's girlfriend Olivia Cole. All right, throw
them up. I mean the houses of what everyone wants
to see, that is true. Yeah, we want to see
the drapes. You want to see the chandeliers, sis. People
(36:55):
are talking about carpet too. I mean I don't or
actually hard wood, space space just getting her own show
and til see you gotta watch it? Is that true? Yeah? Olivia? Yeah? Roberto,
did we make you a fan of Olivia Coppo? Yeah?
(37:16):
He did. You want to know why he's a fan?
Because his eyes work. That's why Roberto? You back on Twitter? Na,
hell no, that's that's my one wish for The only
thing I want for my birthday is for Berto to
get back on the only way that's gonna happen. How's
that gonna happen? Berno, Dave Robber's gonna get fired. We
(37:38):
won't let it go for me. I'm not wishing that
for Dave Roberts, but um I do want Roberto back
on Twitter. He's a man of principal though. He told
everybody and they thought, nah, he'll be back, and he
said it. By the way, that was two series ago. Like,
there's already guys that are going on Twitter for the
Dodgers announcing they're no longer going to be with the team,
and Berno still is holding out a day of Roberts
(38:00):
getting fired. But you know, it's very kind of And
what's the show on TLC? What is she doing? The
Copal sisters? It's like a reality show. Yeah, by the way,
one of her sisters. I don't know how many of
them there are, rocket Ship, let's put it that way,
all right. What else we Glee guys with the Astros
(38:22):
and Philly's facing off in the world series. Mr mattress
Mac is on the verge of landing a historic payday.
He's got a number of betting slips adding up to
ten million dollars, but if it pays out, he will
rake in over seventy five million. He has uh since
refused to hedge that bet okay, so he's gone all
in on just for the astros so and this is like,
(38:47):
I don't understand how is he pulling this off because
he makes all these big bets. Is it like, is
he still doing the deal where he gives away free
furniture if they don't win or how does this work out? Correct? Yeah,
that's that's what he would use those winnings fours if
they did win. Everyone in Houston who buys furniture would
h we'll get their money back, and he would use
those uh, those winnings too. Yeah, he pays them back double.
(39:10):
So if like you spend three thousand bucks on a
mattress or something, he gives you six. And by the way,
he doesn't hedge his minor standing. Yeah, he's not hedging here,
he said. Well, I'm I'm just saying like he doesn't.
He doesn't actually like when he's got a good bet
where he could win that usually people offset and so
they make sure they win. He doesn't do that. He
puts it all out there. What would you guys do?
Would you hedge or would you just go all in on? Yeah?
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