November 10, 2022 • 39 mins
Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Brady and LaVar tell you all about the stigma that goes into wearing a play-calling wristband after Pete Carroll takes a shot at Russell Wilson. Senior NFL Reporter Albert Breer lends insight into the decision to fire Frank Reich and hire Jeff Saturday as the interim HC in Indy and fake news rears its’ head on In Case You Missed It.
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for some sub five hundred teams doing battle on a
Thursday night as we get set for Week ten in
the National Football League. And then there's this other battle
that's been going on the entire season, and it's the
subtle digs in the back and forth between Pete Carroll
and Russell Wilson. And so here's the the situation in
the setup. So Pete Carroll's getting ready for a game
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coming up in Germany against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, first
ever game in Germany. And so after the Seattle Seahawks
won this past weekend, he was on local radio in
Seattle and he was just talking about Geno Smith's relationship
with Shane Stike in the current offensive coordinator there, and
see Stike in so Pete Carroll. He made sure to
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point out the differences between Geno Smith and maybe somebody
who happened to hold the quarterback position more recently there
in Seattle. Take a listen the long relationship of sitting
there and watching this scheme in the in the concepts
and the situations that you know has in his background,
and then then putting it together with Shane's communication. Shane,
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He's getting everything he can get out of Shane. Shane
helps him all the way through to the you know,
to the fifteen second point. I mean, they're just communicating
to get it done, and there's this conversation that goes on,
and so they work it out, and Gino's taking advantage
of all of that. If he knows, you knows, going
off the off the wristband, that's a big help. It's
it's it's smooth things out, sped things up, clean things up,
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and and that's that's part of it too. And and
you know, we never did that before. There was resistance
to that, So we didn't do that before. So so
there was some resistance to that before. And so of
course Russell Wilson was asked about it, and here was
here was Rust's response. I don't know exactly what he said,
but but I think you know, I won a lot
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of games there without one on the risk, and I
didn't know winning or losing mattered if you were a
wristband or not. So that's about as harsh as Rust gets.
Why can't Pee Carroll just let it go? Why is
it he's constantly taking a shot at Russell Wilson. It's
all year, he's done this all year. He's taking digs
at him. He's he's not taking a direct shot, you know.
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Everything's like um, like a warning shot or close and
in the proximity. It's not directly at him. And I
think he likes playing the game. He's a guy that
loves being motivated. Like he he every single day when
I was there, every single day was a competition, like
he had the scoreboard working. It was offense for his defense,
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whatever the case was, in the quarterback room for throws
like all that stuff. Everything was always a competition. It's
always compete, like that's one of the things he talks about,
always compete. And I think in his mind like this
is a competition. He's looking at where his seattle is.
He's looking at where Denver is and he's keeping tabs.
Is our offense better, is our quarterback play better? Is
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our team better? Are we gonna have a better season?
I think he's trying to keep tabs on all of it.
And this is one example that I don't know why
he's using the wristband as an example of that, but
I think it's. What it does is it points out
an issue that Denver had earlier in the season. Remember
what they were strug way with early in the season.
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Time time, and the wrist band expedites the play calling process.
So so think about this. For example, if I was
gonna say zero slots the six double same snow alert,
forty double cans on one, you have to say that
in the headset once to the quarterback right, because he
gets the speaker in his helmet and then he's repeating
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it again. As opposed to saying so on a wristband.
All you do is you have all of your plays
on your wrist band in a right formation. So let's
say you go into the game, but a hundred and
fifty plays, you have a hundred and fifty you know,
different plays, all in right formation. And then what they
do if they want to put it in a left formation.
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Is let's just say, flip forty four. As you take
every even number, make it odd, every right, make it left.
That's all you do with the play call, okay, but
it expedites the process of getting the plays in and
then getting to the line of scrimmage. And look, Tom
Brady has one one I think forever and it's a
part because New England always prepared for the fact that
when I was if the if the coach the quarterback
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goes down and you can't hear in your headset, which
that happens in Callus stadiums, you know, you don't allow
throw down if your headset goes out. You want to
have the ability to communicate in the play call that
the sideline once and not disrupt everything. So you wear
a wristband. Some people just like wearing it. It gets
the more fishing process and by the way, kind of
hard to mess up a call if you're reading off
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the wristband. You see every little thing. Now. The reason
why quarterbacks is some don't like doing it. A they
don't want something on their off throwing hand. It's usually
not that, it's usually the fact that they feel like
it looks like it's high school of college football. You're
not smart, Like you're not smart, but there because that
is that is like a stigma that's attached to it.
And you can ask Jake all and you can ask
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there's callous quarterbacks who would rather we wear a wristband.
I liked wearing a wristband because I always felt like
it's the quicker way of doing it. And if you
could break the huddle and get up the line of scrimmage,
now I can I can take out my toolbox and say,
all right, I can check to this play, I can
change the protection because that five seconds that you're spending
not worrying about a play call, and you can spend
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it the line of scrimmage is invaluable to your offensive linement.
You're running back, your quarterback, your wide receivers on seeing
what the defense is doing. So it's it's something that
has actually been like an age old discussion in quarterback rooms,
like to wear a wrist band or not, But there
is like a stigma attached to it, like, oh, you
don't need it because you have to coach the quarterback
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in your helmet. Like I would argue the opposite. I
think it actually helps them make that process more efficient.
And like in in college, they can steal signals, so
when they still signal into what you know, play call
or whatever you're running, even if you have a wristband, like,
they can technically steal it eventually, like once they see
the same signal a few times, they know you're running
that same play. They can't do that in the NFL level,
so it actually protects against some of that too. By
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the way, I like to apologize, I said Shane Stike
and I got my shape story and Shane Waldron is
the o C d O C in Philly. Is Shanes apologize?
Apologized by Shane Waldron? Who I came up with it?
He came from New England. WHI Charlie weis to Notre
Dame so sugar shame as called extremely bright dude by
by the way, like extremely extremely bright guy. Um. He
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obviously sees the benefit of that too and being able
to expedite the play calling process. Why why wouldn't you
want that? I don't like because of what LaVar said. Yeah,
people don't like the stigma connected to it. It's like
you need a harass back. Was it like flash cards?
People people will use that to try to, you know,
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basically downgrade what your intellect level with. I actually think
it's the dumbest thing and important because when you come
in as a rookie and this is like an old
West Coast thing, like John Gruden was the king of this, right,
he gave this long, elaborate play call ye six double teas,
so alert forty double canes on one. Hey, by the way,
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if they bring it all pressure check fifty addie? All right,
you got me, Like you would say all this crap
just to see if you knew what he was saying,
to see if you knew the offense as well as
he did, even though he's been coaching for forty years
or whatever it's been. And and here's the thing that
that would actually, like would always bother me about it
is you're not allowing your young player to go out
there and play and see's capeablo. You're just trying to
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test him mentally. And that test mentally is not actually
what's gonna happen once you play the game. So if
you have a young like star at quarterback, go put
a wristband on him, make it easier for him to
call the play in the huddle and it's been proven too.
When you see the actual play call on your wristband,
it helps players visualize the play in their minds, so
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they actually instead of just hearing it and visualizing it,
if they have a wristband, they see it, visualize it better.
And that's the other kind of science behind all of it.
So there's a lot of stigmas attached to it, and
it's to me, the dumbest argument there's ever done. The defenders.
I wore two toward I wore two arm bands because
I was a linebacker and the defensive end. There's there's
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literally like eight or nine, ten or more stunts that
are connected to linebackers, defensive ends, defensive tackles, nose guards,
nose guards and tackle tackle ends, ends and backers. And
you know what, I don't I don't want to be
sitting there like, Okay, I heard I heard rhino. I
heard rhino. Okay, boom, cover two? All right, cover two,
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dotta dot this combo that, Like, I'm looking at both wristbands.
Soon as soon as the middle backer calls the call,
I'm looking at both. And then the defensive front they're
they're making calls. So now we're getting lined up defensive
fronts like okay, okay, t E t E t E,
all right, I don't care if I know that it's
tackle end, I still want to look at and be like,
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all right, tackles first and second, boom done? All right?
Am I involved in it? All right? Yep, this is
what I got. I gotta make sure I'm peeling on
the back on this stunt, like just little little details,
because the game is about details. It's about details. If
I missed the fact that on this t E stunt,
I have the pill, which is I have to take
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the back if the back releases. But I'm sitting there
and I'm reading a crosser because i'man cover two and
cover two I'm reading for number two. I'm reading for
the crosser. But if it says all right and they
call cover two, but they called an ET stunt, that
ET stunt means that that in in a regular two,
maybe that end is peeling off. They're they're taking the
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flare from the back. If that back is flaring and
that end is on a on a stunt, that back
might be free. So I have to break off what
I would usually do, and I'm I'm going to play
that back and I'm playing that back in a man
technique while we're playing in his own defense coverage. So
it doesn't make you dumb because you're using a wrist
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band card. It's you're allowed to double check what it
is that your responsibilities are. Like like you said it,
it's very quick, it's efficient and and as I see it,
it's very effective because you don't have to waste of
time trying to figure out I'm trying to decipher what
the play call was, and then I got to see
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what applies to me what doesn't apply to me? You know,
what are the variations of what I have to do
in this play That's strange. I I just think if
there's limited time and you're trying to get a play in,
you're in the heat of the moment, why would you
not what you're just basically saying, no, I don't want
to make it easier. I want to make sure that
I look cooler and the sales look at the sales
of wrist bands that that whole cards, well, they look
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at things else. The other thing I'd say is it's
hard to mess up the call if you're reading it
off your wristband, like you can slip over some things,
or like when you're repeating it and not have to
have a repeat. That's the other thing is. And sometimes
you like some of it will get cut off, or
maybe there's someone talking to you and ask you a
question for the last player or this one, like hey,
what personnel is it? Or hey did you see this
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on the last one. They're trying to get the play call,
and you're like, hold on, hold on, You're gonna look
back over and say, hey, it was called again, called again.
You know that stuff happens. And if you just say, hey,
the wristband forty five, you know we're spand one out two,
whatever the case is you've got in your head, you
don't even have to ask. You you answer the question,
you handle the huddle, or you talk to the guy.
Then you're going right back into it. And so even
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the process of just calling it to make sure there's
no mistakes, even in that case, it's it's an easier
process and it makes it it probably removes less of
an ability to mess up a play call, especially if
you can see it like that's what that's what's weird.
But it's like you people think they know the lyrics
to a song and then once you see it and
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you realize, oh that's what they're saying there, it completely
changes and you learn the song better. Like this just
feels like it's it make it would make things so
much easier. The idea that no, no, no, I don't
want to be seen looking down on my wristbands. So
what do you want to do? Like you know, write
it on on your palm and pretend like you're clearing
grass off your hand and say, oh my, there's the
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play call I just a wristband and to my test
and into my classes with me when I took test
and stuff like that, I would have went in would risk.
I'm just saying, should we do wrist bands for the show? Da?
Why not get it? Like we do have a show sheet.
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Tom Brady used a wristband, He's got a Newman wristband.
I see it every week, the old school Newman band,
Newman wrist brand there, So why not let's make this happen?
You know, we'll do it that way. But again, Pete Carroll,
I mean, what's it gonna be next week? How's it
gonna be able to find a shot and an opportunity
to take a dig at Russ next week? Be getting
a house that only has to to three badrooms, but
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it's over square foot. Yeah, that might be the next shot.
Can I can I call my shot here? I would
like to make you didn't know that I like three
bedrooms under square Yeah, russ has four bedrooms and our
four bedrooms twelve bathrooms in this giant's party basically, don't
come where we live. Yeah, stay stay where all the partiers.
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That basically what that is. So I've heard that, I'd
like to make my prediction. Okay, if you guys had
to make your prediction, now, what do you think the
next thing is? Pete Carroll takes a dig at Russell
Wilson on because I'm gonna make my prediction now, Okay,
I don't think it's gonna be that. I think it's
gonna be him, alluding to the fact that Gino Smith
doesn't have his own office at the facility. That's gonna
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be where Smith's accuracy. You think, so, he's so much
more He's our offenses so much has so much more accuracy.
Wrist band. He can't help himself. This is great efficient.
I had no idea it's so much more efficient. But
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I guess that's the wrist band talk. I had no idea.
This is the best, though, Mr, Mr, Mr Unlimited. Yeah,
you gotta be unlimited. Maybe we did a lot of
winning wristbands. Are not or or Pete Carroll's gonna say
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I prefer I prefer Jersey, Mike's over a subway, or
he's going to find something to take a day. Prefer
my food not to be dangerous. Yeah, that's gonna be.
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the mm QB. You can get him on Twitter at
Albert Brier and Albert I mean, this is just a
great times in the world of social media and NFL
because for eight dollars a month, I can impersonate you
on Twitter and people are gonna fall for it. It's incredible.
I know, I mean, I guess, I guess. Lebron James
announced his own trade, right, I saw Connor McDavid got
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traded to the Islanders. I think, right, It's great, isn't it.
It's so fun I think, I think. I think Adam
Schefter reported that Odell became just doing a hundred billion
dollars deal with the Cowboys too. You guys might want
to look into thatable. Oh man, it is. It is
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an amazing time. So I wanted to ask you because
you were pointing out I saw on Twitter that Gino
Smith's his face is on the side of like what
was that? Was that? Like a silo in Germany because
they're playing the bumps, I don't know, Yeah, like a
water tower tower, and so his face is painted up there,
and you pointed out, man, he's come a long way,
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Like if somebody would have told you a couple of
months ago, this is where Gino Smith would be at.
So I guess the question is what happens after this
year because he's on that small deal with Seattle. But
I mean, there's no way they would let him go, right. Well,
the amazing thing is that they've shown a lot of
faith in him. Um, if you really look at it,
like four straight years they signed him to one year
deal when there really wasn't much of a market for him,
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and um, you know, even you think about the way
they handled in the spring of the summer. You know,
there were a lot of people, myself included, wondering why
um Drew Lock wasn't getting first team reps, you know,
through ot as, through mini camps, through training camp, and
you know, the truth was that Gino had outplayed him.
And you know, I think there was a feeling inside
that building that I mean, Gina wasn't far behind Russell
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Wilson last year. Crazy as that would have sounded at
the time, and they weren't telling people that, but like,
I think there was a level of confidence that he
could be competent. Now do I think they thought he
could be what he's been? Probably not um And you're right,
it does bring sort of an interesting situation because they
are i would say, entering a window of opportunity with
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this rookie class they have UM, which I mean feels
like you know, two thousand and ten, eleven and twelve
rookie classes there where it's something that you're really gonna
be able to build around the two corners, the two tackles,
the running back walker, you know, the task rusher of
mass A, Like they they've really got something there. And so,
you know, I think the way they approached this is
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sort of you know, Kansas City with Alex Smith. If
you remember about ten years ago where um, you know,
the Chiefs did a long term deal with Alex Smith
with the idea being, you know, he's gonna be a
guy who is gonna who's gonna make us competitive competitive
over the next few years. He's gonna buy us time
to find the next guy, because I mean, the fact is,
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you want to take advantage of the window that you're in, Um,
when you've got a rookie class the way that they do,
and they're gonna have two first round picks, two second
round picks. Those Denver picks could wind up being very
high in each of those rounds. So um, so yeah,
I think your approach here is the sort of have
geno as you hold the fort guy, where um, he
can buy you maybe three or four years to find
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the next guy. What does that rule into though, as
far as a contract for him, I mean, did they
franchise tag him, do they go that route? Do they
try to get him to sign a longer term like
a three year extension where they've got a little more
control over him and give him a big signing bonus
for for how he's planned. Yeah, you know, the tricky
thing about that, Brady, is that like there isn't really
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like a B level you know, for for quarterback contracts, um,
you know, like I for for the longest time, and
you know this as well as anybody, Like it's either
it's gonna yes or no question with those types of quarterbacks,
you know, like it's either you pay him at the
top of the market you don't. And so I think
it's going to take compromise and um, you know, and
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some creativity from both sides to find some level of
middle ground. Um. And maybe it's the equivalent of to
franchise tags, which I think the quarterback franchise tag is
going to be like in the in the high twenties
this year. So maybe you're talking about something a thirty
million dollars a year, which sounds like a lot of
genius history and everything else, but it's well short at
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the top of the quarterback market. So I think it's
you know, again, going to take both sides bending a
little bit and um and and compromising and finding some
sort of middle ground. Albert, what's uh, what's the latest
in Washington? Just just curious have you gotten anything anything
more in terms of the latest, because I just feel
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like there's there's a whole lot more to this than
than what meets the eye when it comes down to Washington. Yeah,
I mean, I think we're gonna I mean, we're gonna
have to see some more stuff coming out on Dan Snyder.
I think as soon as today, right, Like I think
the Attorney General kind of press conference today. Um, so
we're gonna we're gonna see some more stuff I think
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come out in the coming weeks over on on on
Dan Snyder in the Worthplace in DC and on the
financial improprieties. Um, I'm sure you guys are up to
speed on all of that, like where there was the
whole thing about him hiding ticket revenue from the other
owners and so, um, you know, I think what happened
last week was sort of to get ahead of a
lot of this and um, you know, my my senses
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over the last couple of weeks since that owner's beating,
I think there were some owners that went to him
and said this time and and you need to walk away.
And this is gonna get ugly if you don't walk away. Um,
and I think the others too, dropping really LaVar was
losing Jerry Jones support. You know, I think once you
lost jones of support, whether it was going to be over.
A year after that, two years after that, it was over,
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you know, And so um, the next steps are obviously
you know, working with the bank too. I think sell
the entire team like this was going to happen, um,
And then you know, the question becomes, you know, who
is in position to buy it? I think you're gonna
see a lot of the same names that you saw
that were involved in the Denver um. In the Denver sale,
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you know, guys like um, you know, Manna Shiba was
one of the animes in there. Um. You know, they're they're,
they're they're probably a handful of bidders from the from
from that, um, from that, from the Denver bidding process
that will be involved. And then of course, you know
the one that everybody's looking as Jeff Bezos. But my
sense is that Snyder doesn't want to sell the Bezos
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just because he hates the Washington Post so much. Albert
Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior NFL
reporter at the m MQB. Can get him on Twitter
at Albert Brier. Um the hell is going on in Indianapolis.
How did this happen? I mean, it's bonkers. It's um
Like I I think, like this really traces back to
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the Carson Wantz trade in January. Um, if you want
to look at Jim Mersey's history, crazy as he is. UM,
you know, like I think most of the time, people
who have worked there, whether it's Bill Pauli and Tony Done,
Ryan Gregson, Chuck Pagano, UM, you know, now Chris Ballard
and Frank Right, they like working for him be because
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he generally doesn't meddle too much in football, but he
does have, you know, a ton of institutional knowledge on
the way the league works because his family has been
involved with the league for so long, and I think
there was really a sea change over the last year
and the way has handled some of these things in
the way that he was so involved in the Carson
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Wentz trade. And it wasn't just trading Carson Wentz. Um,
it was trading Carson Wentz because um, you were so
unhappy with what happened in the Jacksonville game at the
end of last year, and it was trading Carson Wentz
without a plan on the back end. And so that
was the first shoe to drop. And then, you know,
I think over the last couple of months there's been
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a lot of whispers about what the climates like in
that building and uh and whether or not Frank Reich
and Chris Baller we're gonna make it three. You know.
Then you have the benching, which I know some people
in that building perceived that as we need to get
the quarterback position right once and for all. We you
just stop the carousel, and that was driven by r
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Say and the thinking being either Alaner is going to
be a revelation or we're gonna sing to the bottom
of the league and be in position to draft one.
Then there was last week with Marcus brady Um getting
fired as o C. And I know there were some
coaches on the staff that felt like drove that Frank
Reich didn't do enough to stick up for for for
Marcus in that situation. And now of course you have
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this happening where people are now looking back and saying, oh, well,
Jim Rsey has been enamored with Jeff Saturday forever and
the really interesting partner. I know this is a long
windoday answer, but there's just a lot here. Um. They
had a reunion about eleven days ago, Um Terry Glenn,
their old left tackle was going into the Cult String
of Honor. And all those guys are back, Marvin Harrison,
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Peyton Manning, Eder and James all those guys are back
in town. And I had heard that actually Jim Ursey
met with a bunch of those guys to talk about
the future of the franchise. And so it's sort of
interesting how that the precursor to Jeff Saturday becoming the
head coach, and this allows them to take it for
a test drive before they can fully commit to him
as head coach, right, which I think, or say is
really intrigued by the idea of that. You also wonder
(27:09):
and there's been a lot of speculation in league circles
about this, is this setting up a run of Peyton Manning, Um,
you know, by Jim er say, to make him the
executive vice president of football operations or something like that.
So there are a ton of moving pieces here, and
I'd say, we aren't going to know the way all this, Like,
(27:30):
I don't know what this is gonna look like in January,
but I think Jim Ursay has an idea of how
he likes the look at things go well over the
next couple of months. Oh so Peyton's the target, not
Dania Rvlovsky, because I keep seeing Dania Vlovsky talk about
him maybe getting the job. I mean he's making it openly.
I like, damn. But I was interesting how openly he
(27:51):
was talking about it, isn't it. Yeah, almost like his
agent was kind of nudging him, Hey, make sure you're
trying get more money from ESPN and leverage this. I
wish he is dammage, but oh God, take it. Then yeah,
we'll find somebo else to replace you in a heartbeat.
And that's how that's how broadcast networks work, right, Yeah,
I thought, so, um is this? I mean, on the outside,
it looks about as dysfunctional as it could look. Um,
(28:16):
And I think, and we've talked about it at length,
like in the short term, like if you're a number
with Jeff Saturday, Okay, go hire abub him in trone
or John Fox or Gus Brother whoever is on that staff,
get through the season, and then go through the the
legitimate process of hiring a head coach. And if if
Jeff Saturday is your galu, you want to tab so
(28:36):
be it. But it feels a little odd, not only
to put Jeff in this position, because by the time
he gets his feet sunk into this thing, it's gonna
be the end of the season and they're not playing
the first season. It just it feels like it's a
bit chaotic, it's a dumpster fire. It feels like this
could have been handled differently. Is that I know? I
I agree, I agree, I like, I not honestly like I.
(28:59):
I There's two ways you can look at this, Okay.
I think on one end, you could say it's gonna
be impossible for a guy who he's like legitimately gonna
have to figure out which buttons to push on the
headset right on Sunday, like and like to to throw
that guy into in in in the middle of an
NFL season, don't matter what a good leader he is,
(29:20):
no matter what a good person he is, no matter
you know how much potential he has as a coach.
And everyone thinks the world Jeff Saturday. I want to
make that clear, you know what I mean, Like everybody
really likes Jeff. I cover Jeff Um you know, during
the lockout day to day when he was the nflp
A president. I think the world him, Like, so this
is nothing against Jeff, but it's just like to throw
(29:40):
him in the middle of an NFL season, it seems
like it's a lot to ask. The flip side of
that then, though, Brady would be if you don't want
to fully commit to him and give him a four
or five year deal and throw the entire franchise behind him,
do you want to take him for a test drive,
you know what I mean? And do you want to
see what it looks like over in a game sample,
(30:01):
you know, and get that to kind of all right,
like now we're gonna get to see what this looks like.
So you know, it's it's in a in a roundabout way,
it's almost like, you know, like you're throwing him into
the blender and seeing you're throwing him into this like blender,
and you're gonna see what comes out, and if it works,
then you've got your head coach. And if it doesn't,
(30:22):
then you go through a legitimate search and start over
again again. Like I don't know that you're really giving
him a very fair shot, but you know, I think
you'll certainly find out a lot about your organization over
the next couple of months doing it. This way Albert
Bridge joint to us here on Fox Sports Radio, right
last one before we let you go. And I've been
thinking really long and hard about this, all right, so
(30:42):
I want I want to present this to you and
you tell me whether or not you you buy into
this at all? Whatsoever do you believe this weekend that
Ohio State might possibly beat Indiana at the Horseshoe by
more than thirty nine and a half point just throwing
it out? Can I can I get a weather report? Um? Yeah,
(31:06):
Little Brady is gonna be there. Brady, guys got weather
reports there. Yeah, the weather report looks like the lows
thirty two, highs about forty six, no rain in the forecast,
Winds are going to be somewhere around ten to fifteen miles.
Well then then then then I think that that would
be in That would be right in the ballpark there.
That's overcoat weather for you, right, yeah, probably. I mean
(31:27):
I've gotten pretty soft nowadays. But by the way, I
wouldn't say over thirty nine and a half depends on
what books. Let's just say safely over forty. Um, safely
over forty would get you in most books. And by
the way, a little inside info. Indiana will not have
either the first two first two string quarterbacks got beat
up Um State. We are, but Jack Tuttle, who came
(31:52):
in for Connor Bass like, both of them left the
most recent game around. So you've got the third and
fourth state, LaVar. We beat up Ohio State too. We
sent that big strong running back into the locker room
as well. You know, y'all just happened to you know,
like a hurt finger. Yeah we heard him. Yeah it
(32:15):
was his hand, but yeah we heard him. Don't don't
be funny. Don't be funny, don't be don't be well. Well,
you know, LaVar, I gotta hand it to you guys.
You guys did get the cover. There was that touchdown
of there. Okay, there you go. It was a good cover.
Some of some of us might have had pets. Do
you know, I can get a fake rear account and
(32:36):
start up. You know, be careful, be careful. You might
become a pit State fan. How is this going to end,
Albert with Twitter and all this, I mean, it can't end. Well.
I wish I had like and I wish I had
a better idea. I mean, I I think, like, honestly,
I'm not saying this from like an arrogant point of view, Like,
(32:59):
but like, I think all of us in the media
are one of the most valuable things Twitter has, So
I don't know why you would screw with that, you
know what I mean, Like you're like we are literally
and I think like the athletes and celebrities on there too,
But like, aren't media people like the most consistent people
as far as like giving everybody free content on there?
(33:20):
So like, I don't know why why would you screw
with that unless it's like just you bought it and
you decided like, oh my god, this is a horrible investment.
I can't believe what I've just done. I need to
start making some of my money back. Like that's like, honestly,
I don't know why you would mess with like just
the amount of free content that's going on there. And
I've I think we've all wrestled with that, right, Like
(33:42):
why am I putting free content on here when I'm
not making money off of it? You know? But I
think it's it's an interesting discussion to have because like
I think that this sort of this could wind up
driving media away from from Twitter, and that would be
a really, really bad thing for Twitter. It would be
a bad thing with Twitter, but it's not that complicated.
(34:02):
I mean, you have an ad subscription model, you have
one without, right, so the freak content still exists. Someone's
gonna pay a premium not to see the ads. That's
how you make back some of it. And then if
I just don't see any value of making people pay
for the blue check mark, I think that actually kind
of goes against what it all represents. But that money
grab right, right, I mean that's average. Honestly, if I'm
(34:25):
just some average guy who is going on there to like,
get my news, get my sports, whatever, why do I
care about having a blue check mark? I don't care
about that, right, But it's true. Get him on Twitter,
by the way, and you can see his real blue checkmark,
the original at Albert Breer. He is a senior NFL
reporter at the MMQB. Always good stuff. Thanks how we
(34:45):
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we are officially in a new era of Twitter. If
you missed it. In case you missed it, there was
a parody account called Adam schefter Not that tweeted out
yesterday that Josh McDaniels is out as head coach of
Las Vegas Raiders. Sources tell us um did Berto fall
for it? Lots of people felt because it had the
(36:16):
verified check mark. It had the verified check mark at parity.
They paid the eight dollars, by the way, saying please
note that Twitter will do lots of dumb things in
the coming months. We will keep what works and change
what doesn't. So that was the first thing I was
thinking when they made it, you know, eight dollars, eight
dollars a month or whatever. I'm thinking to myself, all right, Like,
(36:38):
so you're just allowing anyone with eight dollars to impersonate
anyone now, like they never thought that far ahead. I mean, now,
there's payment processing that you would think would help identify
or verify someone, but typically it's a much more rigorous
process to get a blue check mark. I guess, um,
I just I find the whole thing, Like, just because
(36:59):
you buy something and you're new to it, you want
to create all these changes. Doesn't mean every idea needs
to be implemented. Yeah. I think the hard thing about
Ellen is as brilliant as he is, is he kind
of voices it all on Twitter like this is some
sort of social science experiment. But I mean, it's it's
gonna be interesting to see how as a society we
hand we look at Twitter moving forward. Because Ellen's I
(37:23):
think he's attempting to try to make it like as
accurate as humanly possible, but at the same time he's
also making it easier to manipulate, manipulate, which is the problem.
It feels like you can clean up Twitter and some
of the you know, the canceling of Twitter and the
bots that are out there, and still also keep in effect. Hey,
you get a verified Twitter account if you know whatever,
(37:44):
you meet the requirements. But the eight dollars a month,
any any j off is gonna pay eight dollars a
month to to create fake accounts. It's it's just I mean,
they do it now anyways, Like so they just paidh
and I get a blue check mark and it looks
more real. I don't know that. That's exactly why I
I'm not into the eight dollar one thing. It means
I'm not on Twitter anymore. That I'm not on Twitter anymore,
(38:06):
I couldn't care less for more time my day for
God's sakes. On Twitter, it's called minutes here. They're promoting
a lot of losers are on Twitter, though I will
I will confirm that they are. Is a sessed poll
of of just negativity and people who would never say
(38:30):
that to someone else's face. Yeah, that's what That's what's
funny to me is like people will say stuff on
social media on the Internet that they would never say
if they saw you in person. Well, a lot of
people on Twitter will say things and people don't even
realize how much of a loser they are in real life, Brady,
When when they're saying those things on Twitter, where are
(38:51):
they usually when they're saying them that's raging? That could
be their parents are of years old, their parents are
in their thirties, they're they're they're in their fifties, and
their parents are in their late seventies. And then they
had twenty followers that that go with everything they say
and they feel like they're the king of the world.
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for some sub five hundred teams doing battle on a
Thursday night as we get set for Week ten in
the National Football League. And then there's this other battle
that's been going on the entire season, and it's the
subtle digs in the back and forth between Pete Carroll
and Russell Wilson. And so here's the the situation in
the setup. So Pete Carroll's getting ready for a game
(02:05):
coming up in Germany against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, first
ever game in Germany. And so after the Seattle Seahawks
won this past weekend, he was on local radio in
Seattle and he was just talking about Geno Smith's relationship
with Shane Stike in the current offensive coordinator there, and
see Stike in so Pete Carroll. He made sure to
(02:33):
point out the differences between Geno Smith and maybe somebody
who happened to hold the quarterback position more recently there
in Seattle. Take a listen the long relationship of sitting
there and watching this scheme in the in the concepts
and the situations that you know has in his background,
and then then putting it together with Shane's communication. Shane,
(02:55):
He's getting everything he can get out of Shane. Shane
helps him all the way through to the you know,
to the fifteen second point. I mean, they're just communicating
to get it done, and there's this conversation that goes on,
and so they work it out, and Gino's taking advantage
of all of that. If he knows, you knows, going
off the off the wristband, that's a big help. It's
it's it's smooth things out, sped things up, clean things up,
(03:17):
and and that's that's part of it too. And and
you know, we never did that before. There was resistance
to that, So we didn't do that before. So so
there was some resistance to that before. And so of
course Russell Wilson was asked about it, and here was
here was Rust's response. I don't know exactly what he said,
but but I think you know, I won a lot
(03:37):
of games there without one on the risk, and I
didn't know winning or losing mattered if you were a
wristband or not. So that's about as harsh as Rust gets.
Why can't Pee Carroll just let it go? Why is
it he's constantly taking a shot at Russell Wilson. It's
all year, he's done this all year. He's taking digs
at him. He's he's not taking a direct shot, you know.
(03:59):
Everything's like um, like a warning shot or close and
in the proximity. It's not directly at him. And I
think he likes playing the game. He's a guy that
loves being motivated. Like he he every single day when
I was there, every single day was a competition, like
he had the scoreboard working. It was offense for his defense,
(04:19):
whatever the case was, in the quarterback room for throws
like all that stuff. Everything was always a competition. It's
always compete, like that's one of the things he talks about,
always compete. And I think in his mind like this
is a competition. He's looking at where his seattle is.
He's looking at where Denver is and he's keeping tabs.
Is our offense better, is our quarterback play better? Is
(04:41):
our team better? Are we gonna have a better season?
I think he's trying to keep tabs on all of it.
And this is one example that I don't know why
he's using the wristband as an example of that, but
I think it's. What it does is it points out
an issue that Denver had earlier in the season. Remember
what they were strug way with early in the season.
(05:03):
Time time, and the wrist band expedites the play calling process.
So so think about this. For example, if I was
gonna say zero slots the six double same snow alert,
forty double cans on one, you have to say that
in the headset once to the quarterback right, because he
gets the speaker in his helmet and then he's repeating
(05:24):
it again. As opposed to saying so on a wristband.
All you do is you have all of your plays
on your wrist band in a right formation. So let's
say you go into the game, but a hundred and
fifty plays, you have a hundred and fifty you know,
different plays, all in right formation. And then what they
do if they want to put it in a left formation.
(05:45):
Is let's just say, flip forty four. As you take
every even number, make it odd, every right, make it left.
That's all you do with the play call, okay, but
it expedites the process of getting the plays in and
then getting to the line of scrimmage. And look, Tom
Brady has one one I think forever and it's a
part because New England always prepared for the fact that
when I was if the if the coach the quarterback
(06:07):
goes down and you can't hear in your headset, which
that happens in Callus stadiums, you know, you don't allow
throw down if your headset goes out. You want to
have the ability to communicate in the play call that
the sideline once and not disrupt everything. So you wear
a wristband. Some people just like wearing it. It gets
the more fishing process and by the way, kind of
hard to mess up a call if you're reading off
(06:28):
the wristband. You see every little thing. Now. The reason
why quarterbacks is some don't like doing it. A they
don't want something on their off throwing hand. It's usually
not that, it's usually the fact that they feel like
it looks like it's high school of college football. You're
not smart, Like you're not smart, but there because that
is that is like a stigma that's attached to it.
And you can ask Jake all and you can ask
(06:50):
there's callous quarterbacks who would rather we wear a wristband.
I liked wearing a wristband because I always felt like
it's the quicker way of doing it. And if you
could break the huddle and get up the line of scrimmage,
now I can I can take out my toolbox and say,
all right, I can check to this play, I can
change the protection because that five seconds that you're spending
not worrying about a play call, and you can spend
(07:11):
it the line of scrimmage is invaluable to your offensive linement.
You're running back, your quarterback, your wide receivers on seeing
what the defense is doing. So it's it's something that
has actually been like an age old discussion in quarterback rooms,
like to wear a wrist band or not, But there
is like a stigma attached to it, like, oh, you
don't need it because you have to coach the quarterback
(07:31):
in your helmet. Like I would argue the opposite. I
think it actually helps them make that process more efficient.
And like in in college, they can steal signals, so
when they still signal into what you know, play call
or whatever you're running, even if you have a wristband, like,
they can technically steal it eventually, like once they see
the same signal a few times, they know you're running
that same play. They can't do that in the NFL level,
so it actually protects against some of that too. By
(07:53):
the way, I like to apologize, I said Shane Stike
and I got my shape story and Shane Waldron is
the o C d O C in Philly. Is Shanes apologize?
Apologized by Shane Waldron? Who I came up with it?
He came from New England. WHI Charlie weis to Notre
Dame so sugar shame as called extremely bright dude by
by the way, like extremely extremely bright guy. Um. He
(08:16):
obviously sees the benefit of that too and being able
to expedite the play calling process. Why why wouldn't you
want that? I don't like because of what LaVar said. Yeah,
people don't like the stigma connected to it. It's like
you need a harass back. Was it like flash cards?
People people will use that to try to, you know,
(08:37):
basically downgrade what your intellect level with. I actually think
it's the dumbest thing and important because when you come
in as a rookie and this is like an old
West Coast thing, like John Gruden was the king of this, right,
he gave this long, elaborate play call ye six double teas,
so alert forty double canes on one. Hey, by the way,
(08:57):
if they bring it all pressure check fifty addie? All right,
you got me, Like you would say all this crap
just to see if you knew what he was saying,
to see if you knew the offense as well as
he did, even though he's been coaching for forty years
or whatever it's been. And and here's the thing that
that would actually, like would always bother me about it
is you're not allowing your young player to go out
there and play and see's capeablo. You're just trying to
(09:19):
test him mentally. And that test mentally is not actually
what's gonna happen once you play the game. So if
you have a young like star at quarterback, go put
a wristband on him, make it easier for him to
call the play in the huddle and it's been proven too.
When you see the actual play call on your wristband,
it helps players visualize the play in their minds, so
(09:41):
they actually instead of just hearing it and visualizing it,
if they have a wristband, they see it, visualize it better.
And that's the other kind of science behind all of it.
So there's a lot of stigmas attached to it, and
it's to me, the dumbest argument there's ever done. The defenders.
I wore two toward I wore two arm bands because
I was a linebacker and the defensive end. There's there's
(10:02):
literally like eight or nine, ten or more stunts that
are connected to linebackers, defensive ends, defensive tackles, nose guards,
nose guards and tackle tackle ends, ends and backers. And
you know what, I don't I don't want to be
sitting there like, Okay, I heard I heard rhino. I
heard rhino. Okay, boom, cover two? All right, cover two,
(10:25):
dotta dot this combo that, Like, I'm looking at both wristbands.
Soon as soon as the middle backer calls the call,
I'm looking at both. And then the defensive front they're
they're making calls. So now we're getting lined up defensive
fronts like okay, okay, t E t E t E,
all right, I don't care if I know that it's
tackle end, I still want to look at and be like,
(10:45):
all right, tackles first and second, boom done? All right?
Am I involved in it? All right? Yep, this is
what I got. I gotta make sure I'm peeling on
the back on this stunt, like just little little details,
because the game is about details. It's about details. If
I missed the fact that on this t E stunt,
I have the pill, which is I have to take
(11:06):
the back if the back releases. But I'm sitting there
and I'm reading a crosser because i'man cover two and
cover two I'm reading for number two. I'm reading for
the crosser. But if it says all right and they
call cover two, but they called an ET stunt, that
ET stunt means that that in in a regular two,
maybe that end is peeling off. They're they're taking the
(11:29):
flare from the back. If that back is flaring and
that end is on a on a stunt, that back
might be free. So I have to break off what
I would usually do, and I'm I'm going to play
that back and I'm playing that back in a man
technique while we're playing in his own defense coverage. So
it doesn't make you dumb because you're using a wrist
(11:52):
band card. It's you're allowed to double check what it
is that your responsibilities are. Like like you said it,
it's very quick, it's efficient and and as I see it,
it's very effective because you don't have to waste of
time trying to figure out I'm trying to decipher what
the play call was, and then I got to see
(12:13):
what applies to me what doesn't apply to me? You know,
what are the variations of what I have to do
in this play That's strange. I I just think if
there's limited time and you're trying to get a play in,
you're in the heat of the moment, why would you
not what you're just basically saying, no, I don't want
to make it easier. I want to make sure that
I look cooler and the sales look at the sales
of wrist bands that that whole cards, well, they look
(12:35):
at things else. The other thing I'd say is it's
hard to mess up the call if you're reading it
off your wristband, like you can slip over some things,
or like when you're repeating it and not have to
have a repeat. That's the other thing is. And sometimes
you like some of it will get cut off, or
maybe there's someone talking to you and ask you a
question for the last player or this one, like hey,
what personnel is it? Or hey did you see this
(12:56):
on the last one. They're trying to get the play call,
and you're like, hold on, hold on, You're gonna look
back over and say, hey, it was called again, called again.
You know that stuff happens. And if you just say, hey,
the wristband forty five, you know we're spand one out two,
whatever the case is you've got in your head, you
don't even have to ask. You you answer the question,
you handle the huddle, or you talk to the guy.
Then you're going right back into it. And so even
(13:16):
the process of just calling it to make sure there's
no mistakes, even in that case, it's it's an easier
process and it makes it it probably removes less of
an ability to mess up a play call, especially if
you can see it like that's what that's what's weird.
But it's like you people think they know the lyrics
to a song and then once you see it and
(13:36):
you realize, oh that's what they're saying there, it completely
changes and you learn the song better. Like this just
feels like it's it make it would make things so
much easier. The idea that no, no, no, I don't
want to be seen looking down on my wristbands. So
what do you want to do? Like you know, write
it on on your palm and pretend like you're clearing
grass off your hand and say, oh my, there's the
(13:56):
play call I just a wristband and to my test
and into my classes with me when I took test
and stuff like that, I would have went in would risk.
I'm just saying, should we do wrist bands for the show? Da?
Why not get it? Like we do have a show sheet.
(14:17):
Tom Brady used a wristband, He's got a Newman wristband.
I see it every week, the old school Newman band,
Newman wrist brand there, So why not let's make this happen?
You know, we'll do it that way. But again, Pete Carroll,
I mean, what's it gonna be next week? How's it
gonna be able to find a shot and an opportunity
to take a dig at Russ next week? Be getting
a house that only has to to three badrooms, but
(14:37):
it's over square foot. Yeah, that might be the next shot.
Can I can I call my shot here? I would
like to make you didn't know that I like three
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come where we live. Yeah, stay stay where all the partiers.
(15:01):
That basically what that is. So I've heard that, I'd
like to make my prediction. Okay, if you guys had
to make your prediction, now, what do you think the
next thing is? Pete Carroll takes a dig at Russell
Wilson on because I'm gonna make my prediction now, Okay,
I don't think it's gonna be that. I think it's
gonna be him, alluding to the fact that Gino Smith
doesn't have his own office at the facility. That's gonna
(15:24):
be where Smith's accuracy. You think, so, he's so much
more He's our offenses so much has so much more accuracy.
Wrist band. He can't help himself. This is great efficient.
I had no idea it's so much more efficient. But
(15:45):
I guess that's the wrist band talk. I had no idea.
This is the best, though, Mr, Mr, Mr Unlimited. Yeah,
you gotta be unlimited. Maybe we did a lot of
winning wristbands. Are not or or Pete Carroll's gonna say
(16:05):
I prefer I prefer Jersey, Mike's over a subway, or
he's going to find something to take a day. Prefer
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the mm QB. You can get him on Twitter at
Albert Brier and Albert I mean, this is just a
great times in the world of social media and NFL
because for eight dollars a month, I can impersonate you
on Twitter and people are gonna fall for it. It's incredible.
I know, I mean, I guess, I guess. Lebron James
announced his own trade, right, I saw Connor McDavid got
(18:13):
traded to the Islanders. I think, right, It's great, isn't it.
It's so fun I think, I think. I think Adam
Schefter reported that Odell became just doing a hundred billion
dollars deal with the Cowboys too. You guys might want
to look into thatable. Oh man, it is. It is
(18:34):
an amazing time. So I wanted to ask you because
you were pointing out I saw on Twitter that Gino
Smith's his face is on the side of like what
was that? Was that? Like a silo in Germany because
they're playing the bumps, I don't know, Yeah, like a
water tower tower, and so his face is painted up there,
and you pointed out, man, he's come a long way,
(18:55):
Like if somebody would have told you a couple of
months ago, this is where Gino Smith would be at.
So I guess the question is what happens after this
year because he's on that small deal with Seattle. But
I mean, there's no way they would let him go, right. Well,
the amazing thing is that they've shown a lot of
faith in him. Um, if you really look at it,
like four straight years they signed him to one year
deal when there really wasn't much of a market for him,
(19:17):
and um, you know, even you think about the way
they handled in the spring of the summer. You know,
there were a lot of people, myself included, wondering why
um Drew Lock wasn't getting first team reps, you know,
through ot as, through mini camps, through training camp, and
you know, the truth was that Gino had outplayed him.
And you know, I think there was a feeling inside
that building that I mean, Gina wasn't far behind Russell
(19:38):
Wilson last year. Crazy as that would have sounded at
the time, and they weren't telling people that, but like,
I think there was a level of confidence that he
could be competent. Now do I think they thought he
could be what he's been? Probably not um And you're right,
it does bring sort of an interesting situation because they
are i would say, entering a window of opportunity with
(19:59):
this rookie class they have UM, which I mean feels
like you know, two thousand and ten, eleven and twelve
rookie classes there where it's something that you're really gonna
be able to build around the two corners, the two tackles,
the running back walker, you know, the task rusher of
mass A, Like they they've really got something there. And so,
you know, I think the way they approached this is
(20:21):
sort of you know, Kansas City with Alex Smith. If
you remember about ten years ago where um, you know,
the Chiefs did a long term deal with Alex Smith
with the idea being, you know, he's gonna be a
guy who is gonna who's gonna make us competitive competitive
over the next few years. He's gonna buy us time
to find the next guy, because I mean, the fact is,
(20:44):
you want to take advantage of the window that you're in, Um,
when you've got a rookie class the way that they do,
and they're gonna have two first round picks, two second
round picks. Those Denver picks could wind up being very
high in each of those rounds. So um, so yeah,
I think your approach here is the sort of have
geno as you hold the fort guy, where um, he
can buy you maybe three or four years to find
(21:05):
the next guy. What does that rule into though, as
far as a contract for him, I mean, did they
franchise tag him, do they go that route? Do they
try to get him to sign a longer term like
a three year extension where they've got a little more
control over him and give him a big signing bonus
for for how he's planned. Yeah, you know, the tricky
thing about that, Brady, is that like there isn't really
(21:26):
like a B level you know, for for quarterback contracts, um,
you know, like I for for the longest time, and
you know this as well as anybody, Like it's either
it's gonna yes or no question with those types of quarterbacks,
you know, like it's either you pay him at the
top of the market you don't. And so I think
it's going to take compromise and um, you know, and
(21:47):
some creativity from both sides to find some level of
middle ground. Um. And maybe it's the equivalent of to
franchise tags, which I think the quarterback franchise tag is
going to be like in the in the high twenties
this year. So maybe you're talking about something a thirty
million dollars a year, which sounds like a lot of
genius history and everything else, but it's well short at
(22:07):
the top of the quarterback market. So I think it's
you know, again, going to take both sides bending a
little bit and um and and compromising and finding some
sort of middle ground. Albert, what's uh, what's the latest
in Washington? Just just curious have you gotten anything anything
more in terms of the latest, because I just feel
(22:28):
like there's there's a whole lot more to this than
than what meets the eye when it comes down to Washington. Yeah,
I mean, I think we're gonna I mean, we're gonna
have to see some more stuff coming out on Dan Snyder.
I think as soon as today, right, Like I think
the Attorney General kind of press conference today. Um, so
we're gonna we're gonna see some more stuff I think
(22:49):
come out in the coming weeks over on on on
Dan Snyder in the Worthplace in DC and on the
financial improprieties. Um, I'm sure you guys are up to
speed on all of that, like where there was the
whole thing about him hiding ticket revenue from the other
owners and so, um, you know, I think what happened
last week was sort of to get ahead of a
lot of this and um, you know, my my senses
(23:13):
over the last couple of weeks since that owner's beating,
I think there were some owners that went to him
and said this time and and you need to walk away.
And this is gonna get ugly if you don't walk away. Um,
and I think the others too, dropping really LaVar was
losing Jerry Jones support. You know, I think once you
lost jones of support, whether it was going to be over.
A year after that, two years after that, it was over,
(23:34):
you know, And so um, the next steps are obviously
you know, working with the bank too. I think sell
the entire team like this was going to happen, um,
And then you know, the question becomes, you know, who
is in position to buy it? I think you're gonna
see a lot of the same names that you saw
that were involved in the Denver um. In the Denver sale,
(23:56):
you know, guys like um, you know, Manna Shiba was
one of the animes in there. Um. You know, they're they're,
they're they're probably a handful of bidders from the from
from that, um, from that, from the Denver bidding process
that will be involved. And then of course, you know
the one that everybody's looking as Jeff Bezos. But my
sense is that Snyder doesn't want to sell the Bezos
(24:17):
just because he hates the Washington Post so much. Albert
Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior NFL
reporter at the m MQB. Can get him on Twitter
at Albert Brier. Um the hell is going on in Indianapolis.
How did this happen? I mean, it's bonkers. It's um
Like I I think, like this really traces back to
(24:39):
the Carson Wantz trade in January. Um, if you want
to look at Jim Mersey's history, crazy as he is. UM,
you know, like I think most of the time, people
who have worked there, whether it's Bill Pauli and Tony Done,
Ryan Gregson, Chuck Pagano, UM, you know, now Chris Ballard
and Frank Right, they like working for him be because
(25:00):
he generally doesn't meddle too much in football, but he
does have, you know, a ton of institutional knowledge on
the way the league works because his family has been
involved with the league for so long, and I think
there was really a sea change over the last year
and the way has handled some of these things in
the way that he was so involved in the Carson
(25:22):
Wentz trade. And it wasn't just trading Carson Wentz. Um,
it was trading Carson Wentz because um, you were so
unhappy with what happened in the Jacksonville game at the
end of last year, and it was trading Carson Wentz
without a plan on the back end. And so that
was the first shoe to drop. And then, you know,
I think over the last couple of months there's been
(25:42):
a lot of whispers about what the climates like in
that building and uh and whether or not Frank Reich
and Chris Baller we're gonna make it three. You know.
Then you have the benching, which I know some people
in that building perceived that as we need to get
the quarterback position right once and for all. We you
just stop the carousel, and that was driven by r
(26:03):
Say and the thinking being either Alaner is going to
be a revelation or we're gonna sing to the bottom
of the league and be in position to draft one.
Then there was last week with Marcus brady Um getting
fired as o C. And I know there were some
coaches on the staff that felt like drove that Frank
Reich didn't do enough to stick up for for for
Marcus in that situation. And now of course you have
(26:24):
this happening where people are now looking back and saying, oh, well,
Jim Rsey has been enamored with Jeff Saturday forever and
the really interesting partner. I know this is a long
windoday answer, but there's just a lot here. Um. They
had a reunion about eleven days ago, Um Terry Glenn,
their old left tackle was going into the Cult String
of Honor. And all those guys are back, Marvin Harrison,
(26:45):
Peyton Manning, Eder and James all those guys are back
in town. And I had heard that actually Jim Ursey
met with a bunch of those guys to talk about
the future of the franchise. And so it's sort of
interesting how that the precursor to Jeff Saturday becoming the
head coach, and this allows them to take it for
a test drive before they can fully commit to him
as head coach, right, which I think, or say is
really intrigued by the idea of that. You also wonder
(27:09):
and there's been a lot of speculation in league circles
about this, is this setting up a run of Peyton Manning, Um,
you know, by Jim er say, to make him the
executive vice president of football operations or something like that.
So there are a ton of moving pieces here, and
I'd say, we aren't going to know the way all this, Like,
(27:30):
I don't know what this is gonna look like in January,
but I think Jim Ursay has an idea of how
he likes the look at things go well over the
next couple of months. Oh so Peyton's the target, not
Dania Rvlovsky, because I keep seeing Dania Vlovsky talk about
him maybe getting the job. I mean he's making it openly.
I like, damn. But I was interesting how openly he
(27:51):
was talking about it, isn't it. Yeah, almost like his
agent was kind of nudging him, Hey, make sure you're
trying get more money from ESPN and leverage this. I
wish he is dammage, but oh God, take it. Then yeah,
we'll find somebo else to replace you in a heartbeat.
And that's how that's how broadcast networks work, right, Yeah,
I thought, so, um is this? I mean, on the outside,
it looks about as dysfunctional as it could look. Um,
(28:16):
And I think, and we've talked about it at length,
like in the short term, like if you're a number
with Jeff Saturday, Okay, go hire abub him in trone
or John Fox or Gus Brother whoever is on that staff,
get through the season, and then go through the the
legitimate process of hiring a head coach. And if if
Jeff Saturday is your galu, you want to tab so
(28:36):
be it. But it feels a little odd, not only
to put Jeff in this position, because by the time
he gets his feet sunk into this thing, it's gonna
be the end of the season and they're not playing
the first season. It just it feels like it's a
bit chaotic, it's a dumpster fire. It feels like this
could have been handled differently. Is that I know? I
I agree, I agree, I like, I not honestly like I.
(28:59):
I There's two ways you can look at this, Okay.
I think on one end, you could say it's gonna
be impossible for a guy who he's like legitimately gonna
have to figure out which buttons to push on the
headset right on Sunday, like and like to to throw
that guy into in in in the middle of an
NFL season, don't matter what a good leader he is,
(29:20):
no matter what a good person he is, no matter
you know how much potential he has as a coach.
And everyone thinks the world Jeff Saturday. I want to
make that clear, you know what I mean, Like everybody
really likes Jeff. I cover Jeff Um you know, during
the lockout day to day when he was the nflp
A president. I think the world him, Like, so this
is nothing against Jeff, but it's just like to throw
(29:40):
him in the middle of an NFL season, it seems
like it's a lot to ask. The flip side of
that then, though, Brady would be if you don't want
to fully commit to him and give him a four
or five year deal and throw the entire franchise behind him,
do you want to take him for a test drive,
you know what I mean? And do you want to
see what it looks like over in a game sample,
(30:01):
you know, and get that to kind of all right,
like now we're gonna get to see what this looks like.
So you know, it's it's in a in a roundabout way,
it's almost like, you know, like you're throwing him into
the blender and seeing you're throwing him into this like blender,
and you're gonna see what comes out, and if it works,
then you've got your head coach. And if it doesn't,
(30:22):
then you go through a legitimate search and start over
again again. Like I don't know that you're really giving
him a very fair shot, but you know, I think
you'll certainly find out a lot about your organization over
the next couple of months doing it. This way Albert
Bridge joint to us here on Fox Sports Radio, right
last one before we let you go. And I've been
thinking really long and hard about this, all right, so
(30:42):
I want I want to present this to you and
you tell me whether or not you you buy into
this at all? Whatsoever do you believe this weekend that
Ohio State might possibly beat Indiana at the Horseshoe by
more than thirty nine and a half point just throwing
it out? Can I can I get a weather report? Um? Yeah,
(31:06):
Little Brady is gonna be there. Brady, guys got weather
reports there. Yeah, the weather report looks like the lows
thirty two, highs about forty six, no rain in the forecast,
Winds are going to be somewhere around ten to fifteen miles.
Well then then then then I think that that would
be in That would be right in the ballpark there.
That's overcoat weather for you, right, yeah, probably. I mean
(31:27):
I've gotten pretty soft nowadays. But by the way, I
wouldn't say over thirty nine and a half depends on
what books. Let's just say safely over forty. Um, safely
over forty would get you in most books. And by
the way, a little inside info. Indiana will not have
either the first two first two string quarterbacks got beat
up Um State. We are, but Jack Tuttle, who came
(31:52):
in for Connor Bass like, both of them left the
most recent game around. So you've got the third and
fourth state, LaVar. We beat up Ohio State too. We
sent that big strong running back into the locker room
as well. You know, y'all just happened to you know,
like a hurt finger. Yeah we heard him. Yeah it
(32:15):
was his hand, but yeah we heard him. Don't don't
be funny. Don't be funny, don't be don't be well. Well,
you know, LaVar, I gotta hand it to you guys.
You guys did get the cover. There was that touchdown
of there. Okay, there you go. It was a good cover.
Some of some of us might have had pets. Do
you know, I can get a fake rear account and
(32:36):
start up. You know, be careful, be careful. You might
become a pit State fan. How is this going to end,
Albert with Twitter and all this, I mean, it can't end. Well.
I wish I had like and I wish I had
a better idea. I mean, I I think, like, honestly,
I'm not saying this from like an arrogant point of view, Like,
(32:59):
but like, I think all of us in the media
are one of the most valuable things Twitter has, So
I don't know why you would screw with that, you
know what I mean, Like you're like we are literally
and I think like the athletes and celebrities on there too,
But like, aren't media people like the most consistent people
as far as like giving everybody free content on there?
(33:20):
So like, I don't know why why would you screw
with that unless it's like just you bought it and
you decided like, oh my god, this is a horrible investment.
I can't believe what I've just done. I need to
start making some of my money back. Like that's like, honestly,
I don't know why you would mess with like just
the amount of free content that's going on there. And
I've I think we've all wrestled with that, right, Like
(33:42):
why am I putting free content on here when I'm
not making money off of it? You know? But I
think it's it's an interesting discussion to have because like
I think that this sort of this could wind up
driving media away from from Twitter, and that would be
a really, really bad thing for Twitter. It would be
a bad thing with Twitter, but it's not that complicated.
(34:02):
I mean, you have an ad subscription model, you have
one without, right, so the freak content still exists. Someone's
gonna pay a premium not to see the ads. That's
how you make back some of it. And then if
I just don't see any value of making people pay
for the blue check mark, I think that actually kind
of goes against what it all represents. But that money
grab right, right, I mean that's average. Honestly, if I'm
(34:25):
just some average guy who is going on there to like,
get my news, get my sports, whatever, why do I
care about having a blue check mark? I don't care
about that, right, But it's true. Get him on Twitter,
by the way, and you can see his real blue checkmark,
the original at Albert Breer. He is a senior NFL
reporter at the MMQB. Always good stuff. Thanks how we
(34:45):
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we are officially in a new era of Twitter. If
you missed it. In case you missed it, there was
a parody account called Adam schefter Not that tweeted out
yesterday that Josh McDaniels is out as head coach of
Las Vegas Raiders. Sources tell us um did Berto fall
for it? Lots of people felt because it had the
(36:16):
verified check mark. It had the verified check mark at parity.
They paid the eight dollars, by the way, saying please
note that Twitter will do lots of dumb things in
the coming months. We will keep what works and change
what doesn't. So that was the first thing I was
thinking when they made it, you know, eight dollars, eight
dollars a month or whatever. I'm thinking to myself, all right, Like,
(36:38):
so you're just allowing anyone with eight dollars to impersonate
anyone now, like they never thought that far ahead. I mean, now,
there's payment processing that you would think would help identify
or verify someone, but typically it's a much more rigorous
process to get a blue check mark. I guess, um,
I just I find the whole thing, Like, just because
(36:59):
you buy something and you're new to it, you want
to create all these changes. Doesn't mean every idea needs
to be implemented. Yeah. I think the hard thing about
Ellen is as brilliant as he is, is he kind
of voices it all on Twitter like this is some
sort of social science experiment. But I mean, it's it's
gonna be interesting to see how as a society we
hand we look at Twitter moving forward. Because Ellen's I
(37:23):
think he's attempting to try to make it like as
accurate as humanly possible, but at the same time he's
also making it easier to manipulate, manipulate, which is the problem.
It feels like you can clean up Twitter and some
of the you know, the canceling of Twitter and the
bots that are out there, and still also keep in effect. Hey,
you get a verified Twitter account if you know whatever,
(37:44):
you meet the requirements. But the eight dollars a month,
any any j off is gonna pay eight dollars a
month to to create fake accounts. It's it's just I mean,
they do it now anyways, Like so they just paidh
and I get a blue check mark and it looks
more real. I don't know that. That's exactly why I
I'm not into the eight dollar one thing. It means
I'm not on Twitter anymore. That I'm not on Twitter anymore,
(38:06):
I couldn't care less for more time my day for
God's sakes. On Twitter, it's called minutes here. They're promoting
a lot of losers are on Twitter, though I will
I will confirm that they are. Is a sessed poll
of of just negativity and people who would never say
(38:30):
that to someone else's face. Yeah, that's what That's what's
funny to me is like people will say stuff on
social media on the Internet that they would never say
if they saw you in person. Well, a lot of
people on Twitter will say things and people don't even
realize how much of a loser they are in real life, Brady,
When when they're saying those things on Twitter, where are
(38:51):
they usually when they're saying them that's raging? That could
be their parents are of years old, their parents are
in their thirties, they're they're they're in their fifties, and
their parents are in their late seventies. And then they
had twenty followers that that go with everything they say
and they feel like they're the king of the world.
(39:12):
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