November 28, 2022 • 37 mins
Russell Wilson is trying to be something he’s not as the Broncos continue to be the most disappointing team in the NFL. The Jags mascot pushes the boundaries. The handling of Matt Ryan is on the main stage on Monday Night Football and the weekly edition of the Prop Bet Monster.
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yesterday's game that this wasn't exactly how they planned things
were going to go in Denver with Russell Wilson. I
don't know, I don't know why I got that feeling,
but I was just watching that game, going, yeah, this
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wasn't exactly everyone thought this was going to go this year. Um,
which one was worse? They are so bad? Which was
worth Carl Lewis saying the National Anthem or or the
Denver Broncos this year, it's one and the same. They're
they're they're up. Are they close to being the worst
team in the NFL? UM? I would say it was
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if not for yeah, that that's that's definitely the case.
By by the way, here's here's what I don't understand,
Like when like I got Denver dead wrong, Yeah, dead wrong,
And I don't care as much flak for that as
compared to the Jets. Um, it's it's kind of I
don't know, oddity, I guess in that regard, But I
would say their defense is is still one of the
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best in the NFL. So I'm not I'm not necessarily
saying that, like they're one of the worst teams for
that reason, like some of the bad teams out there,
like the Texans, that they're the worst team in the NFL,
and there's really not much hope. You know, when you
kind of watch some of those games, they just seemed
clearly outmatched, out schemed. And that's a whole another conversation,
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but it's it's the offense. And I don't care what
is said postgame. Mike Purcell seemed ticked off. Man. It
seems like that defense is at a breaking point right
now in Denver. I mean, why wouldn't they be Why
wouldn't you be? You have you you have been sold
a bill of goods that that came in almost like
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they sold you sour milk, like you thought it was
a good batch of milk. It wasn't a good batch
of milk. And now you gotta you gotta figure out
what are you gonna do with it? And and now
you're too a point now where this this unit has
given you all the opportunities to be competitive in games,
win games, be be a team that can go in
the right direction. Now you've had players that didn't want
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to be there. That have gone, You've lost one of
your premier defenders, and Chubb like to me, I think
the way this is all panned out is almost like
the total antithesis of what's going on in New York.
Now what might have made more since now? I don't
know that you can get it done with with the
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backups and in UH in Denver, but you're not getting
it done with the starter either. And you can you
can look at the quarterback position in the quarterback play,
the offensive play as the reason why this team is
not doing well, and so who who's the backup? The
ripping right isn't ripping the backup? I don't know. I
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don't know that you make your team better by putting
him in. You know, it's almost like a Heinekee situation,
maybe way worse because of the amount of money that
they've paid, UH pay Russ, but you're you're sacrificing the
entire team to appease one player that is tremendously under
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grossly underperforming. And that's what you saw trying to spill
over when when you had the player on the defense
come off the field like calling him a punk. You know,
whatever you know what I mean, And yeah, yeah, and
and and just feeling feeling overwhelmed with emotion to actually
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talk to like for a defender to go at an
offensive player like that, they have literally hit their their
wits and they've hit their wits. And so Russell Wilson
after the game did talk about the incident with Mike
Purcell and also just the bad look for the organization
following another disappointing loss at Carolina yesterday. He was stall.
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He just said, we gotta we have and go, you know,
and uh, I agree, you know, so me and him
on the same page. We you know, there's no animosity
there at all. We're on the same page. We we
we gotta win, you know, we gotta come out here
and have some some grid to us, some mentality to us.
We gotta be able to win these these football games.
And you know, so those guys are out there battle
and every play, you know, in offense, we've gotta be
able to capitalize. So yeah, no, there's nothing there at all.
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It's unacceptable, bottom line, you know, this this organization is
this tradition here, this uh everything else. You know, we
gotta honor it, you know, we gotta honor it by winning.
I have to, I need to. They're on the same page.
I am on the same page with them. I think
we're all on the same page. The offense stinks. Um uh.
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The interesting thing about this is so they're what three
and eight now, I believe, and Denver's had three and
eight spells. They had it, I believe with with Vance Joseph,
I believe they had it one of the first two years,
and Vic Fangio had this similar record. The difference is
the expectations for Denver, you know, and LaVar you kind
of touched on it, like the the expectations were they
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were a quarterback away. I mean, Vic Fangio admitted as much,
and now they have their quarterback and it has been
an absolute disaster to me. I also think it has
everything to do with not not even so much the
hiring of Nathaniel Hackett, who seemed like he was underprepared
for this moment, and just how things have have worked out,
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but more so the fact they're trying to make Russell Wilson.
I don't know if it's his own volition to do
this or not, but they're trying to make him something
that he's not. Like you're you're watching the game going
man like, get him outside, get him on the move,
get the deep play action, the boots to move the pocket.
That's what Seattle was able to excel with with them.
And it's it's not like you're just gonna set him
in the pocket. Let him pick you apart. If Russell
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thinks he's that quarterback, and then I don't know what
to tell him, because it's it's hard he he hasn't
really been that guy, not consistently that when they've won
super Bowls and had success and they're almost trying to
make like him into something that you know, men, look,
maybe it's a work in progress. Maybe it'll eventually come
around the right end of this year next year, but
that wasn't what led to their success and their super
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Bowl runs. And and in the beginning of his career, Q. Yeah,
don't you believe that Russell Wilson came in there and said,
these are the plays that I'm comfortable with, these are
the plays we need to run, this is how we
need to be looking at approaching the game plans. Wouldn't
you believe that Russell Wilson was probably and I mean
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I would assume that's why he has his own office.
He was vitally important in the implementation of what he
felt what style of offense would work for him and
would work for that team. What don't you think I do?
I think it had a little bit to do with
to him going to a destination now where he got
to you know, he got to pick and choose what
he wants to do. And I think sometimes, you know,
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when we're in that position, we're blind to our own
weaknesses and where we struggle. Yeah, but but this is
one in which I think he's he's trying to be
something that's gonna help prolong his career by playing more
from the pocket. But it just it hasn't been where
they've had the most success. And you know, I just
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I think he's going to realize too, if he wants
to win M v P, if he wants to win
other Super Bowl, they're gonna have to play to the
strengths of the team that they have around him. But
even what he doesn't believe that he needs to do,
like he needs to take off and run more. He
needs to be more part of that, Like do you
remember the dazzling place he used to make scrambling around
the pocket all that, it's like that never happens anymore.
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You know what I think it is he to to
do anything that he left behind, is it almost represents
minimizing him or diminishing what he believes is the brew
gents of what he brings to the table. And that's
why I think that there's a resistance too, like okay
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to to think that, you know, allow a coach to
to be the coach, Allow allow Hackett and those guys
to put together what the game plan should look like,
whether it minimizes you or not, like let them do it.
And I almost feel like this is what we were
watching take place with Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson. This
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was a constant battle, a constant struggle. Rust became so
beloved and so respected that his voice carried carried the
type of weight that we saw take place in in
Green Bay when Aaron Rodgers wasn't happy with things and
then finally had something to say about it. But nobody
had enough of of credibility or good will build up
in the community for it to stand up to Aaron Rodgers.
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But Pete Carroll did. Pete Carroll had enough built up
goodwill and enough of a resume to stand up to
what Russ Wilson had to say, and ultimately that was
the reason why I, Russ and Pete Carrol had to
go their separate ways. But now I think we're really
seeing and you're really starting to understand. Like Na Russ,
don't sit there and say we need to we need
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to say I need to. It's no different than than
what Zack wilson situation is. No, Zack, don't say we
say I say I need to be better. Say I
need to figure this out so that I can handle
my piece of the puzzle, handle my part of the
lawn and do what I need to do that's gonna
make sure that we can get this thing turned around.
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Don't say we, because you are the epitome. You are
the epicenter of what the issue is right now. You
may not even be able to see that and realize that,
but you are indeed the reason why this team is
going in the opposite direction. And for what it's worth,
that may seem harsh. Oh, you can't put it on
one person. Yes you can, sure you can. You can
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put it on the quarterback. You can put it on
the head coach, especially when it's accurate because it's accurate.
It's poor play from the quarterback is the reason why
this this offense is suffering. You can't put it on
the amount of talent that they have. They have receivers,
they have an old line, they had a running game
like they they had pieces in place. It's like what
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happened to Melvin Gordon. I don't know, he fumbles, Okay,
put it on that. You had a team that was
as symboled to be able to win. Everybody looked at
it that way. They were a quarterback away that say
I like that. Dude wasn't coming off to the phil
talking to everybody on the offense. He was talking to
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yo ass together. He was say you get it together.
By the way, I think it's very possible they're not
winning another game all year. And I think if that's
the case, we're looking at a fourteen lost Bronco team,
which is crazy to think about when you can it
are all that we talked about with this team coming
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into the season. I mean, they've got Baltimore on the
road next week. Baltimore is going to rip them in half,
especially after what happens. I don't know, it's Jacksonville. You
don't know about that. You don't think Baltimore is gonna
come in piste off after what happened? Hey so much so?
What you see the way they played, You're gonna have
to figure out. They're gonna have to figure out. Both
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teams is gonna be upset. Both defense is gonna come
in show up to play. You have, But I feel
like Baltimore could actually do something about it. Denver can Alright,
so like just find me. But who is that Carolina? Yeah?
Yeah against Carolina? Yeah, would get to get too off
the beaton path? That's that? Oh, here comes a piste
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of Baltimore Ravens team with Carolina on what what quarterback
is Jacksonville? Jacksonville? Jacksonville? Excuse me? Yesterday he looked good yesterday?
He did he did look good. He was dealing yesterday. Yeah,
go for you. I don't know what. I don't know
what their mascot was. What was I don't know what
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he had going on? Yeah that was a little Yeah,
like he forgot the rest of his uniform, Like something
happened to the dude uniform and he had to go
like the show must go on? Yeah? Is that normally
what he looks like? Hell? No, I don't know. He
has the rest of his body on. I know that,
but I'm saying, like very strange. Are you gonna say
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he was very muscular or he I wasn't going any
of that. I just I've never paid attention to that
team's mascot, so I'm not really sure what was or wasn't. Yeah,
like the rest of them is like it's like the
normal like little chubby dude, Like it goes down and
gets chubby at the bottom, like it's it's like the
jaguar like. And I only know this is because I
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remember when he zip corded from the top of the
the scoreboard, Like I remember that and that's why. But
he's he's like like a traditional traditional mascot, like he's
have you at the bottom, like he's skinning out the top?
Have you at the bottom? That certainly isn't. Isn't the
normal gang gear? What do you say? Okay, so what
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the thong speedo is not? That was not I didn't
I've never seen that one. By the way, I didn't
see a shot from behind. I just made up front.
It was that funn to make it up. But they
got a swimming pool there. I mean you know he's
gonna take a dip every Um, just paniel Hacket and
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make it through the entire season, because okay, you think
he's gonnaet clipped in season. Um, I think he'll get
clipped after the season. Okay, yeah, because I think they're
going to just roll with this is what it is.
And then you know Seattle's draft pickers. I think he
might get clipped before the season ends. I really do,
because it's getting it's starting to now look like it
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has looked bad, but now it really on the version,
it's on the cusp of looking really bad. And if
you get if you get rid of if you get
rid of Hackett right now, and you bring in an
interiom and and he basically kind of does something to
the effect of what silis doing in New York, you
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may have a chance to salvage this. You're not salvaging
this season, but you can salvage the locker room, and
this ownership group can kind of salvage like a feel
good type of approach moving forward for for their fan base.
You gotta give your fans hope. You always. You gotta
keep in mind you're constantly selling. You want to be
selling tickets you want to be selling buy in, you
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want to be selling apparel, you want to be selling things,
and you thought you were getting all of those things.
And this guy coming in to be a megastar. I mean,
think about what Tom Brady represented to the market he
went to and this is what Russell Wilson probably sold
and his agents sold Denver on. And Denver realizes that
that can have because they've seen it happened before with
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Pete Manning. This has fallen so far and so hard
on its face that I almost feel like if you
hit the reset that red button, reset button that Q
was talking about, and you bring in a guy temporarily,
you can almost kind of you can almost damage control
it a little bit. It could just be damage control
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right now in Denver. If I'm the Walton family, I'm
like it, I am in total that I don't even
know what that even means at this point because I'm
new to it. But whatever that means, somebody needs to
show me what that means and we need to execute
that right now. Don't forget too. It's not like the
Waltons don't know about selling, and I mean it's the
Walmart family for certain, Like they're like they're very, very
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tuned into that and that is meaningful to them. So
customer service, baby, and you are not giving those Denver
fans customer service right now, and clearly you're not giving
your defense that either. You haven't heard from Bronco fans
about being wrong about the team. They're in hiding. They're
trying to stay as far away from sports radio and
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A game that they were probably hoping they were probably
hoping was going to be a little bit better matchup
when the season started between the Colts and the Steelers. Unfortunately,
this is what we get. And yeah, it's a big
game for a few reasons. Curious to see how ESPN
covers it with Jeff Saturday being uh former colleague. There,
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you guys heard what Mike Tomlin had to say about
the hiring of this Saturday right, I mean it has
nothing to do with him, He has no opinion problem
and my deal. I'm trying to see what we got
going on here in Pittsburgh, and now it makes the
matchup a little bit. To me. It's more about the
game than it is about anything else, which I think
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that's what it should be. Unfortunately, you know where some
people are gonna take it though, of course, yeah, until
that's gonna go. But well, I mean, what's what Jeff?
Jeff is one and one as a starter, starting head coach,
as a starter, as the hey guy. I just feel
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like for everybody who thinks that he shouldn't have the job.
Every time a team loses, what are you going to
say about that coach that coaches that team that lost
to him, because he very easily could have won that
last one. That one and one could very easily be
to a note right now, the Eagles that took that
ale from the Colts, they I guess I just looked
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at this one. I don't have a problem with the
fact that they hired him or brought him on. I
think it's just the timing of it, and it's the
way they went about handling things at the end of
Frank Rice time there. Yeah, like I just that's more
of the issue. I think that how many people are
going to have that approach though? How many you think,
like fans aren't going to look at it that way
because it's yeah, they're not going to look at how
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many people are going to look at it from that
that person. Fans don't care as long as they win,
Like they don't care what you do. You know, you
can have your your mascot out there in a male
thong running around literally and it doesn't matter if you win.
Who thought that was a good idea? Like? Who who
thought that that was? He came walking down the tunnel
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and they were like, yep, that's our mascot for today.
He stressed as a streaker. I mean that pretty much. Yeah, yeah, okay,
all right, but y'all mad at Urban right, y'all mad
rban because he got a little shorty doing a little
little little dance, you know, and just make sure you're
doing the dance, guys, And this dude got a banana
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hammock in and y'all got a problem. Yeah. It's like
they're sitting there with you know, like with thet some
docker shorts on, and yet that's appropriate. It's disgusting. I'm
just saying You know what, London, you can have him, right,
you want them so bad, you can have him, right.
Take the Jags, take the swimming pool, take them all. Yeah,
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take everything. But what are we even talking about here?
But but to Brady's point, though, the handling of Matt Ryan,
that's the that's the issue that should be brought up
more often. That's not why all of a sudden it
was okay for Jeff Saturday to start Matt Ryan, but
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it wasn't okay for Frank Reich to want to start
him if Matt Ryan was healthy. That's the best unsolved
mysteries right there. Right, That's one way I'll put it.
But I think I think as far as like Jeff
Saturday goes in this whole deal, I mean, it has
been rocket science, right, I mean, hey, let's us let's
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give He's literally been touched at like twenty four plus
times the past two games. I think he was on
pace like seventeen or so for I think fourteen fifteen
carries per game before that. It's like, well, yeah, I
mean that he's the type of back very similar think
I would say John the Taylor, Nick Chubb, you know,
Derrick Henry. They wear down on defenses. Like I remember
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back playing with Jamal Lewis and Cleveland, and we used
to always say, if we just get him twenty plus
touches because we knew the bigger games would come at
like touch fourteen, fifteen and onward, because it might only
be a three yard game, four yard game, two yard game,
six yard game. But then one of those suckers was
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gonna pop because avention set half. One of those dbs
didn't want to take that abuse anymore, Like they just
didn't want any part of that bigger back running full
steam ahead downhill at their ass and they would just
either turn it away or that tackle wouldn't happen. And
that's usually how it works with some of those bigger
backs who are physical like that. So it's not hard.
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It's like, yeah, this this, this probably could have would
have been the case. Maybe if he had Matt Ryan
back in there. Maybe not, but either way, like just
give to your best player more. By the way, how
big was Jamal Lewis, you know what, Like you don't
always have to be like the heaviest guy. He was
just rocked up like that was just yoked up, like
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from his toes to his head, like he just was
absolutely yoked up, Like and I I don't know if
he was more than I was gonna say, I don't
know if he was more than that, Like he might
have been two thirty. He's listed at good God, I
mean it's not surprising because all muscle, Like he's just
all muscle and was fast. Had a good career, man,
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I mean, hall of Fame worthy if you ask me,
he's over the ten thousand yard mark. That's kind of
a lot of people point to that. You gotta at
least be at that at that level, he's got a
super Bowl, he's got that two thousand yard season, and
he had a really good career. Can we put can
we put the mascot conversation into bit though? Yeah he
really did have a thone? Yeah, no he did. I
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I SA we were joking and I was joking and
it ended up being that he did have a So
I'm saying, London, if you want him, take him, like
to take the whole tranches. That's kind of laughable, man.
That's that's that's like, that is not a good look
for your organization, for your franchise. When your mascot didn't
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have his full uniform, you you. You you improvised, let
me ask you, and you moved into the stadium and
you said, you know, Sam, you're an idiot. I'm not
going to wear my outfit today. I'm going thong. If
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if if a woman, all right, if a woman was
wearing a thong bikini at a Jaguars game, would would
have Jaguars, they would ask her to cover up? Would
a Jaguars uh hat on or masks? You'll say that,
but it's probably happening before. I'm not I'm not telling
her to cover up, know, but but that would there
would be a request like, hey, could you could you
cover up or something? But if they had the male
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and the female jaguar mascot on the field, you can't
tell her to cover up if you're not telling him
the cover. It's just I'm just saying that they both
had uh, you know, jaguar print on them. They would
have both had jaguar print. They would have been jaguar
color bikini. But the fact that it would have been
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a thong jaguar bikini, just imagine you would have just
had to be very very and I hate to say this,
but you would have had to been very selective and
the people that you wanted to to be your mascots
for that day. Just a disgrace to all the great
Jaguars of the past. I mean, he was he was
living Forward Brooks. They were celebrating a big play in
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the end zone, and the mascot is right behind him
doing every single thing. I just watched the Chippendale um
documentary or the series. You know there's a series on
on Hulu about Chippendale. Oh it's it's pretty it's pretty entertaining. Man,
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I'm a businessman. Anytime somebody's built a business, I like
watching where guys built businesses. And this was a dude
built for business? Was that? Oh? Whoa? I mean those
dudes were built for business. I'm just saying. But the
dude was like he ran a gas station and ended
up being the guy that created Chippendale's like, I mean,
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that's the American dream. He wasn't from here the world's
biggest turnstyle. Well, clearly the Jaguars are going down the
Chippendale direction, So I thought it was relevant. I mean,
if if they don't sell it on the field, you
better sell it someway. Somehow, I hatter figure out a
way to make your product sellable by one of the
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great weekends of football, and you're watching the Chippendale's document
Go on, football isn't on twenty four hours a day
on this It pretty much was. But we gonna want
to know what day I watched. It was Friday, Oh
a little black Friday. Today Friday we had what was
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what was the eggle on? No, it was Thursday. There
was no games on when I watched it. I was
looking for something cool to watch with my chick. We
were like, you know what you got anything? I was like,
you know what I saw while I was watching foot ball?
There was? There was. There was some college football on
at some point on Friday. No way, not when I
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was watching that. It might have been a repeat. Never mind, Okay,
thank you. You're married to cure. Sometimes you watch you
watch film and you know, put you in the mood.
Huh Well, I mean I wasn't trying to get in
the move. It was just seemed like it was an
entertaining show to watch. He loose, Come on, I'm to
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sex for my hurt, to zad for my shirt hurt?
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how about it? In over time on the road. Howbout
those Raiders? Baby? How about it? Yeah, they're on their
way back. Yeah, the bounce back and that Seattle defense,
I mean that, you know that's one you wanted to
believe in the NFC West team first. I mean, look,
the offense is fun, but unfortunately the defense a lot
to be desired. They leave it on the table there,
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But it is Josh Jacobs with a monster game and
the Raiders and games. By the way, what happened all
the people that wanted Josh McDaniels fired? All right? What
happened all those people? Is that what bird didnt show
up today? Now? Who knows? I mean, who knows? With him?
He picks and choose, and that was that was Raiders
are having success and he's gotten on the same. Yeah,
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hang now, fella's first prop bet? Where is Jim Mercy?
Show him first at the game? Will it be one
is out of it? Be careful on the sideline or
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at a bar that's gonna be on the sate line?
Do you think so that's a Jerry Jones movie that's
gonna be on the side. Well, I mean, he's going
to be the center of attention, I'll say, in a
suite I wish it was a bar. That'd be fantastic.
What's a good what's a good bar in Indianapolis? Is
it St? Almos? Or is that the steakhouse? That's the steakhouse?
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And there's a prime. Prime forty seven is where everyone
goes during the combine. Now though, I mean, this is
a nice little ripple's got some cool spots. You know,
I'm coming this weekend to in the Inapolis. So what
day you get in? Que? I don't get in until
early early Saturday mornings. We'll be in Vegas for the
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Patrol Championship game. Okay, I'll be in Friday night. Oh okay, yeah,
So are you leaving out Saturday after the game? Correct? Now,
I'm gonna stay overnight. I'll miss you both times, but
I'll think of you. Maybe i'll see you. Think I'm
going to say in a suite although it is, Yeah,
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it's a home game, I'll say, sweet, he's gonna be
on the What you got What did you say, Jonas
and bar? Yeah? I said I wish it was in
a bar. I'm gonna say in a suite. Okay. First
rushing touchdown of the game will be Jonathan Taylor nausea
Harris or other Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, I think that's an
easy one. I'm gonna go with Jonathan Jonathan Taylor too.
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I'll say other. Give me the field. I like it
all right, guys. Color of Kenny Pickett's gloves. Will they
be black? White? Or yellow? Um? None of the above.
I'll say yellow because I mean they're gonna wear the
white jerseys. What I was? I there a combination of them? Well,
like the majority color? I guess or pick it? Is
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it the quarterback or receive it? Picket? Yeah? Um, I
don't know. Are no, just like the glove the back
of it because the pumps could be gray, could be white. Yeah,
think about white. Yeah, I guess yellow because I mean
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it's not gonna be I don't They're not gonna be
all white, but there could be some black other I
don't know. This is a weird question, and I'm just
gonna say yellow. I'm gonna go yellow. What do you
got the bar? None of the above? What are you talking?
You gotta pick something? No, he's not gonna have gloves on.
They're gonna be indoors. He always has gloves, not today. Okay,
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look at those hands all right, fellows, What does Matt
Ryan do first? Does he throw a touchdown? Does he
throw an interception? Does he run for positive yards? Or
does he take a sack? Oh? I think he takes
a sack. M I think he's oh man, yeah, I'm
gonna go take a sack one minute? What do you
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got LaVar Ah? I think he's gonna take his back too. Yeah,
I think that's what. Finally, does ESPN show Jeff Saturday
working out before the game? Yes? Or no? Yes? They
already They already were running that this is gonna be
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a pregame just completely focusing on him and pulling him up.
They were showing him doing push ups and sprints last
game like it just I said no, I said no,
They're gonna show him, but he's not gonna be working out.
By the way, you want to know how you know
Jeff Saturday is an interim coach right now? He doesn't
wear a hat, you know that? Like it always look
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kind of threw out a hooded sweater and said, all right,
once you become head coach, Yeah, but like what do
you want to throw something on or at least comb
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yesterday's game that this wasn't exactly how they planned things
were going to go in Denver with Russell Wilson. I
don't know, I don't know why I got that feeling,
but I was just watching that game, going, yeah, this
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wasn't exactly everyone thought this was going to go this year. Um,
which one was worse? They are so bad? Which was
worth Carl Lewis saying the National Anthem or or the
Denver Broncos this year, it's one and the same. They're
they're they're up. Are they close to being the worst
team in the NFL? UM? I would say it was
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if not for yeah, that that's that's definitely the case.
By by the way, here's here's what I don't understand,
Like when like I got Denver dead wrong, Yeah, dead wrong,
And I don't care as much flak for that as
compared to the Jets. Um, it's it's kind of I
don't know, oddity, I guess in that regard, But I
would say their defense is is still one of the
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best in the NFL. So I'm not I'm not necessarily
saying that, like they're one of the worst teams for
that reason, like some of the bad teams out there,
like the Texans, that they're the worst team in the NFL,
and there's really not much hope. You know, when you
kind of watch some of those games, they just seemed
clearly outmatched, out schemed. And that's a whole another conversation,
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but it's it's the offense. And I don't care what
is said postgame. Mike Purcell seemed ticked off. Man. It
seems like that defense is at a breaking point right
now in Denver. I mean, why wouldn't they be Why
wouldn't you be? You have you you have been sold
a bill of goods that that came in almost like
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they sold you sour milk, like you thought it was
a good batch of milk. It wasn't a good batch
of milk. And now you gotta you gotta figure out
what are you gonna do with it? And and now
you're too a point now where this this unit has
given you all the opportunities to be competitive in games,
win games, be be a team that can go in
the right direction. Now you've had players that didn't want
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to be there. That have gone, You've lost one of
your premier defenders, and Chubb like to me, I think
the way this is all panned out is almost like
the total antithesis of what's going on in New York.
Now what might have made more since now? I don't
know that you can get it done with with the
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backups and in UH in Denver, but you're not getting
it done with the starter either. And you can you
can look at the quarterback position in the quarterback play,
the offensive play as the reason why this team is
not doing well, and so who who's the backup? The
ripping right isn't ripping the backup? I don't know. I
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don't know that you make your team better by putting
him in. You know, it's almost like a Heinekee situation,
maybe way worse because of the amount of money that
they've paid, UH pay Russ, but you're you're sacrificing the
entire team to appease one player that is tremendously under
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grossly underperforming. And that's what you saw trying to spill
over when when you had the player on the defense
come off the field like calling him a punk. You know,
whatever you know what I mean, And yeah, yeah, and
and and just feeling feeling overwhelmed with emotion to actually
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talk to like for a defender to go at an
offensive player like that, they have literally hit their their
wits and they've hit their wits. And so Russell Wilson
after the game did talk about the incident with Mike
Purcell and also just the bad look for the organization
following another disappointing loss at Carolina yesterday. He was stall.
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He just said, we gotta we have and go, you know,
and uh, I agree, you know, so me and him
on the same page. We you know, there's no animosity
there at all. We're on the same page. We we
we gotta win, you know, we gotta come out here
and have some some grid to us, some mentality to us.
We gotta be able to win these these football games.
And you know, so those guys are out there battle
and every play, you know, in offense, we've gotta be
able to capitalize. So yeah, no, there's nothing there at all.
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It's unacceptable, bottom line, you know, this this organization is
this tradition here, this uh everything else. You know, we
gotta honor it, you know, we gotta honor it by winning.
I have to, I need to. They're on the same page.
I am on the same page with them. I think
we're all on the same page. The offense stinks. Um uh.
(05:45):
The interesting thing about this is so they're what three
and eight now, I believe, and Denver's had three and
eight spells. They had it, I believe with with Vance Joseph,
I believe they had it one of the first two years,
and Vic Fangio had this similar record. The difference is
the expectations for Denver, you know, and LaVar you kind
of touched on it, like the the expectations were they
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were a quarterback away. I mean, Vic Fangio admitted as much,
and now they have their quarterback and it has been
an absolute disaster to me. I also think it has
everything to do with not not even so much the
hiring of Nathaniel Hackett, who seemed like he was underprepared
for this moment, and just how things have have worked out,
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but more so the fact they're trying to make Russell Wilson.
I don't know if it's his own volition to do
this or not, but they're trying to make him something
that he's not. Like you're you're watching the game going
man like, get him outside, get him on the move,
get the deep play action, the boots to move the pocket.
That's what Seattle was able to excel with with them.
And it's it's not like you're just gonna set him
in the pocket. Let him pick you apart. If Russell
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thinks he's that quarterback, and then I don't know what
to tell him, because it's it's hard he he hasn't
really been that guy, not consistently that when they've won
super Bowls and had success and they're almost trying to
make like him into something that you know, men, look,
maybe it's a work in progress. Maybe it'll eventually come
around the right end of this year next year, but
that wasn't what led to their success and their super
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Bowl runs. And and in the beginning of his career, Q. Yeah,
don't you believe that Russell Wilson came in there and said,
these are the plays that I'm comfortable with, these are
the plays we need to run, this is how we
need to be looking at approaching the game plans. Wouldn't
you believe that Russell Wilson was probably and I mean
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I would assume that's why he has his own office.
He was vitally important in the implementation of what he
felt what style of offense would work for him and
would work for that team. What don't you think I do?
I think it had a little bit to do with
to him going to a destination now where he got
to you know, he got to pick and choose what
he wants to do. And I think sometimes, you know,
(08:00):
when we're in that position, we're blind to our own
weaknesses and where we struggle. Yeah, but but this is
one in which I think he's he's trying to be
something that's gonna help prolong his career by playing more
from the pocket. But it just it hasn't been where
they've had the most success. And you know, I just
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I think he's going to realize too, if he wants
to win M v P, if he wants to win
other Super Bowl, they're gonna have to play to the
strengths of the team that they have around him. But
even what he doesn't believe that he needs to do,
like he needs to take off and run more. He
needs to be more part of that, Like do you
remember the dazzling place he used to make scrambling around
the pocket all that, it's like that never happens anymore.
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You know what I think it is he to to
do anything that he left behind, is it almost represents
minimizing him or diminishing what he believes is the brew
gents of what he brings to the table. And that's
why I think that there's a resistance too, like okay
(09:06):
to to think that, you know, allow a coach to
to be the coach, Allow allow Hackett and those guys
to put together what the game plan should look like,
whether it minimizes you or not, like let them do it.
And I almost feel like this is what we were
watching take place with Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson. This
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was a constant battle, a constant struggle. Rust became so
beloved and so respected that his voice carried carried the
type of weight that we saw take place in in
Green Bay when Aaron Rodgers wasn't happy with things and
then finally had something to say about it. But nobody
had enough of of credibility or good will build up
in the community for it to stand up to Aaron Rodgers.
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But Pete Carroll did. Pete Carroll had enough built up
goodwill and enough of a resume to stand up to
what Russ Wilson had to say, and ultimately that was
the reason why I, Russ and Pete Carrol had to
go their separate ways. But now I think we're really
seeing and you're really starting to understand. Like Na Russ,
don't sit there and say we need to we need
(10:14):
to say I need to. It's no different than than
what Zack wilson situation is. No, Zack, don't say we
say I say I need to be better. Say I
need to figure this out so that I can handle
my piece of the puzzle, handle my part of the
lawn and do what I need to do that's gonna
make sure that we can get this thing turned around.
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Don't say we, because you are the epitome. You are
the epicenter of what the issue is right now. You
may not even be able to see that and realize that,
but you are indeed the reason why this team is
going in the opposite direction. And for what it's worth,
that may seem harsh. Oh, you can't put it on
one person. Yes you can, sure you can. You can
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put it on the quarterback. You can put it on
the head coach, especially when it's accurate because it's accurate.
It's poor play from the quarterback is the reason why
this this offense is suffering. You can't put it on
the amount of talent that they have. They have receivers,
they have an old line, they had a running game
like they they had pieces in place. It's like what
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happened to Melvin Gordon. I don't know, he fumbles, Okay,
put it on that. You had a team that was
as symboled to be able to win. Everybody looked at
it that way. They were a quarterback away that say
I like that. Dude wasn't coming off to the phil
talking to everybody on the offense. He was talking to
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yo ass together. He was say you get it together.
By the way, I think it's very possible they're not
winning another game all year. And I think if that's
the case, we're looking at a fourteen lost Bronco team,
which is crazy to think about when you can it
are all that we talked about with this team coming
(12:02):
into the season. I mean, they've got Baltimore on the
road next week. Baltimore is going to rip them in half,
especially after what happens. I don't know, it's Jacksonville. You
don't know about that. You don't think Baltimore is gonna
come in piste off after what happened? Hey so much so?
What you see the way they played, You're gonna have
to figure out. They're gonna have to figure out. Both
(12:22):
teams is gonna be upset. Both defense is gonna come
in show up to play. You have, But I feel
like Baltimore could actually do something about it. Denver can Alright,
so like just find me. But who is that Carolina? Yeah?
Yeah against Carolina? Yeah, would get to get too off
the beaton path? That's that? Oh, here comes a piste
(12:43):
of Baltimore Ravens team with Carolina on what what quarterback
is Jacksonville? Jacksonville? Jacksonville? Excuse me? Yesterday he looked good yesterday?
He did he did look good. He was dealing yesterday. Yeah,
go for you. I don't know what. I don't know
what their mascot was. What was I don't know what
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he had going on? Yeah that was a little Yeah,
like he forgot the rest of his uniform, Like something
happened to the dude uniform and he had to go
like the show must go on? Yeah? Is that normally
what he looks like? Hell? No, I don't know. He
has the rest of his body on. I know that,
but I'm saying, like very strange. Are you gonna say
(13:27):
he was very muscular or he I wasn't going any
of that. I just I've never paid attention to that
team's mascot, so I'm not really sure what was or wasn't. Yeah,
like the rest of them is like it's like the
normal like little chubby dude, Like it goes down and
gets chubby at the bottom, like it's it's like the
jaguar like. And I only know this is because I
(13:48):
remember when he zip corded from the top of the
the scoreboard, Like I remember that and that's why. But
he's he's like like a traditional traditional mascot, like he's
have you at the bottom, like he's skinning out the top?
Have you at the bottom? That certainly isn't. Isn't the
normal gang gear? What do you say? Okay, so what
(14:11):
the thong speedo is not? That was not I didn't
I've never seen that one. By the way, I didn't
see a shot from behind. I just made up front.
It was that funn to make it up. But they
got a swimming pool there. I mean you know he's
gonna take a dip every Um, just paniel Hacket and
(14:34):
make it through the entire season, because okay, you think
he's gonnaet clipped in season. Um, I think he'll get
clipped after the season. Okay, yeah, because I think they're
going to just roll with this is what it is.
And then you know Seattle's draft pickers. I think he
might get clipped before the season ends. I really do,
because it's getting it's starting to now look like it
(14:57):
has looked bad, but now it really on the version,
it's on the cusp of looking really bad. And if
you get if you get rid of if you get
rid of Hackett right now, and you bring in an
interiom and and he basically kind of does something to
the effect of what silis doing in New York, you
(15:19):
may have a chance to salvage this. You're not salvaging
this season, but you can salvage the locker room, and
this ownership group can kind of salvage like a feel
good type of approach moving forward for for their fan base.
You gotta give your fans hope. You always. You gotta
keep in mind you're constantly selling. You want to be
selling tickets you want to be selling buy in, you
(15:41):
want to be selling apparel, you want to be selling things,
and you thought you were getting all of those things.
And this guy coming in to be a megastar. I mean,
think about what Tom Brady represented to the market he
went to and this is what Russell Wilson probably sold
and his agents sold Denver on. And Denver realizes that
that can have because they've seen it happened before with
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Pete Manning. This has fallen so far and so hard
on its face that I almost feel like if you
hit the reset that red button, reset button that Q
was talking about, and you bring in a guy temporarily,
you can almost kind of you can almost damage control
it a little bit. It could just be damage control
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right now in Denver. If I'm the Walton family, I'm
like it, I am in total that I don't even
know what that even means at this point because I'm
new to it. But whatever that means, somebody needs to
show me what that means and we need to execute
that right now. Don't forget too. It's not like the
Waltons don't know about selling, and I mean it's the
Walmart family for certain, Like they're like they're very, very
(16:46):
tuned into that and that is meaningful to them. So
customer service, baby, and you are not giving those Denver
fans customer service right now, and clearly you're not giving
your defense that either. You haven't heard from Bronco fans
about being wrong about the team. They're in hiding. They're
trying to stay as far away from sports radio and
(17:07):
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A game that they were probably hoping they were probably
hoping was going to be a little bit better matchup
when the season started between the Colts and the Steelers. Unfortunately,
this is what we get. And yeah, it's a big
game for a few reasons. Curious to see how ESPN
covers it with Jeff Saturday being uh former colleague. There,
(19:02):
you guys heard what Mike Tomlin had to say about
the hiring of this Saturday right, I mean it has
nothing to do with him, He has no opinion problem
and my deal. I'm trying to see what we got
going on here in Pittsburgh, and now it makes the
matchup a little bit. To me. It's more about the
game than it is about anything else, which I think
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that's what it should be. Unfortunately, you know where some
people are gonna take it though, of course, yeah, until
that's gonna go. But well, I mean, what's what Jeff?
Jeff is one and one as a starter, starting head coach,
as a starter, as the hey guy. I just feel
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like for everybody who thinks that he shouldn't have the job.
Every time a team loses, what are you going to
say about that coach that coaches that team that lost
to him, because he very easily could have won that
last one. That one and one could very easily be
to a note right now, the Eagles that took that
ale from the Colts, they I guess I just looked
(20:04):
at this one. I don't have a problem with the
fact that they hired him or brought him on. I
think it's just the timing of it, and it's the
way they went about handling things at the end of
Frank Rice time there. Yeah, like I just that's more
of the issue. I think that how many people are
going to have that approach though? How many you think,
like fans aren't going to look at it that way
because it's yeah, they're not going to look at how
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many people are going to look at it from that
that person. Fans don't care as long as they win,
Like they don't care what you do. You know, you
can have your your mascot out there in a male
thong running around literally and it doesn't matter if you win.
Who thought that was a good idea? Like? Who who
thought that that was? He came walking down the tunnel
(20:46):
and they were like, yep, that's our mascot for today.
He stressed as a streaker. I mean that pretty much. Yeah, yeah, okay,
all right, but y'all mad at Urban right, y'all mad
rban because he got a little shorty doing a little
little little dance, you know, and just make sure you're
doing the dance, guys, And this dude got a banana
(21:07):
hammock in and y'all got a problem. Yeah. It's like
they're sitting there with you know, like with thet some
docker shorts on, and yet that's appropriate. It's disgusting. I'm
just saying You know what, London, you can have him, right,
you want them so bad, you can have him, right.
Take the Jags, take the swimming pool, take them all. Yeah,
(21:32):
take everything. But what are we even talking about here?
But but to Brady's point, though, the handling of Matt Ryan,
that's the that's the issue that should be brought up
more often. That's not why all of a sudden it
was okay for Jeff Saturday to start Matt Ryan, but
(21:53):
it wasn't okay for Frank Reich to want to start
him if Matt Ryan was healthy. That's the best unsolved
mysteries right there. Right, That's one way I'll put it.
But I think I think as far as like Jeff
Saturday goes in this whole deal, I mean, it has
been rocket science, right, I mean, hey, let's us let's
(22:15):
give He's literally been touched at like twenty four plus
times the past two games. I think he was on
pace like seventeen or so for I think fourteen fifteen
carries per game before that. It's like, well, yeah, I
mean that he's the type of back very similar think
I would say John the Taylor, Nick Chubb, you know,
Derrick Henry. They wear down on defenses. Like I remember
(22:38):
back playing with Jamal Lewis and Cleveland, and we used
to always say, if we just get him twenty plus
touches because we knew the bigger games would come at
like touch fourteen, fifteen and onward, because it might only
be a three yard game, four yard game, two yard game,
six yard game. But then one of those suckers was
(22:58):
gonna pop because avention set half. One of those dbs
didn't want to take that abuse anymore, Like they just
didn't want any part of that bigger back running full
steam ahead downhill at their ass and they would just
either turn it away or that tackle wouldn't happen. And
that's usually how it works with some of those bigger
backs who are physical like that. So it's not hard.
(23:20):
It's like, yeah, this this, this probably could have would
have been the case. Maybe if he had Matt Ryan
back in there. Maybe not, but either way, like just
give to your best player more. By the way, how
big was Jamal Lewis, you know what, Like you don't
always have to be like the heaviest guy. He was
just rocked up like that was just yoked up, like
(23:42):
from his toes to his head, like he just was
absolutely yoked up, Like and I I don't know if
he was more than I was gonna say, I don't
know if he was more than that, Like he might
have been two thirty. He's listed at good God, I
mean it's not surprising because all muscle, Like he's just
all muscle and was fast. Had a good career, man,
(24:05):
I mean, hall of Fame worthy if you ask me,
he's over the ten thousand yard mark. That's kind of
a lot of people point to that. You gotta at
least be at that at that level, he's got a
super Bowl, he's got that two thousand yard season, and
he had a really good career. Can we put can
we put the mascot conversation into bit though? Yeah he
really did have a thone? Yeah, no he did. I
(24:27):
I SA we were joking and I was joking and
it ended up being that he did have a So
I'm saying, London, if you want him, take him, like
to take the whole tranches. That's kind of laughable, man.
That's that's that's like, that is not a good look
for your organization, for your franchise. When your mascot didn't
(24:50):
have his full uniform, you you. You you improvised, let
me ask you, and you moved into the stadium and
you said, you know, Sam, you're an idiot. I'm not
going to wear my outfit today. I'm going thong. If
(25:10):
if if a woman, all right, if a woman was
wearing a thong bikini at a Jaguars game, would would
have Jaguars, they would ask her to cover up? Would
a Jaguars uh hat on or masks? You'll say that,
but it's probably happening before. I'm not I'm not telling
her to cover up, know, but but that would there
would be a request like, hey, could you could you
cover up or something? But if they had the male
(25:32):
and the female jaguar mascot on the field, you can't
tell her to cover up if you're not telling him
the cover. It's just I'm just saying that they both
had uh, you know, jaguar print on them. They would
have both had jaguar print. They would have been jaguar
color bikini. But the fact that it would have been
(25:53):
a thong jaguar bikini, just imagine you would have just
had to be very very and I hate to say this,
but you would have had to been very selective and
the people that you wanted to to be your mascots
for that day. Just a disgrace to all the great
Jaguars of the past. I mean, he was he was
living Forward Brooks. They were celebrating a big play in
(26:15):
the end zone, and the mascot is right behind him
doing every single thing. I just watched the Chippendale um
documentary or the series. You know there's a series on
on Hulu about Chippendale. Oh it's it's pretty it's pretty entertaining. Man,
(26:38):
I'm a businessman. Anytime somebody's built a business, I like
watching where guys built businesses. And this was a dude
built for business? Was that? Oh? Whoa? I mean those
dudes were built for business. I'm just saying. But the
dude was like he ran a gas station and ended
up being the guy that created Chippendale's like, I mean,
(26:58):
that's the American dream. He wasn't from here the world's
biggest turnstyle. Well, clearly the Jaguars are going down the
Chippendale direction, So I thought it was relevant. I mean,
if if they don't sell it on the field, you
better sell it someway. Somehow, I hatter figure out a
way to make your product sellable by one of the
(27:20):
great weekends of football, and you're watching the Chippendale's document
Go on, football isn't on twenty four hours a day
on this It pretty much was. But we gonna want
to know what day I watched. It was Friday, Oh
a little black Friday. Today Friday we had what was
(27:44):
what was the eggle on? No, it was Thursday. There
was no games on when I watched it. I was
looking for something cool to watch with my chick. We
were like, you know what you got anything? I was like,
you know what I saw while I was watching foot ball?
There was? There was. There was some college football on
at some point on Friday. No way, not when I
(28:06):
was watching that. It might have been a repeat. Never mind, Okay,
thank you. You're married to cure. Sometimes you watch you
watch film and you know, put you in the mood.
Huh Well, I mean I wasn't trying to get in
the move. It was just seemed like it was an
entertaining show to watch. He loose, Come on, I'm to
(28:29):
sex for my hurt, to zad for my shirt hurt?
How was that christmasse coming along? That was Christmas music?
Right there? It is here on sports trading. Also, by
the way, to pay off the tease. Congratulations to the
Las Vegas Raiders, the Las Vegas Raiders, two straight winds,
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how about it? In over time on the road. Howbout
those Raiders? Baby? How about it? Yeah, they're on their
way back. Yeah, the bounce back and that Seattle defense,
I mean that, you know that's one you wanted to
believe in the NFC West team first. I mean, look,
the offense is fun, but unfortunately the defense a lot
to be desired. They leave it on the table there,
(29:13):
But it is Josh Jacobs with a monster game and
the Raiders and games. By the way, what happened all
the people that wanted Josh McDaniels fired? All right? What
happened all those people? Is that what bird didnt show
up today? Now? Who knows? I mean, who knows? With him?
He picks and choose, and that was that was Raiders
are having success and he's gotten on the same. Yeah,
(29:33):
it's too it's too easy for him to pick on
them when they're bad. Right now. Coming up next though,
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So lead the lap. Where do we stand on the
season when it comes to the prop at Monster Brady
still holds his lead over both you and LaVar Jonas.
You guys are about four games behind Brady. I mean
I was four games behind the last time you said this.
I quit. I don't want to play. I don't want
to play it anymore. Come on, you can't quit. My o'
(32:16):
bleak is is injured. I'm can I can't throw anymore.
I can't throw anymore picks out. I got some toward
off for you right here. Now, come on, I don't
want that toward all picks against the spreads, like that
Jacksonville Jaguar toward all shout. I don't want that. That
mascot shot. You don't want jonass needle, don't need it,
(32:42):
can win with it, Needle. That's needle. Alright, let's go
hang now, fella's first prop bet? Where is Jim Mercy?
Show him first at the game? Will it be one
is out of it? Be careful on the sideline or
(33:03):
at a bar that's gonna be on the sate line?
Do you think so that's a Jerry Jones movie that's
gonna be on the side. Well, I mean, he's going
to be the center of attention, I'll say, in a
suite I wish it was a bar. That'd be fantastic.
What's a good what's a good bar in Indianapolis? Is
it St? Almos? Or is that the steakhouse? That's the steakhouse?
(33:26):
And there's a prime. Prime forty seven is where everyone
goes during the combine. Now though, I mean, this is
a nice little ripple's got some cool spots. You know,
I'm coming this weekend to in the Inapolis. So what
day you get in? Que? I don't get in until
early early Saturday mornings. We'll be in Vegas for the
(33:47):
Patrol Championship game. Okay, I'll be in Friday night. Oh okay, yeah,
So are you leaving out Saturday after the game? Correct? Now,
I'm gonna stay overnight. I'll miss you both times, but
I'll think of you. Maybe i'll see you. Think I'm
going to say in a suite although it is, Yeah,
(34:08):
it's a home game, I'll say, sweet, he's gonna be
on the What you got What did you say, Jonas
and bar? Yeah? I said I wish it was in
a bar. I'm gonna say in a suite. Okay. First
rushing touchdown of the game will be Jonathan Taylor nausea
Harris or other Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, I think that's an
easy one. I'm gonna go with Jonathan Jonathan Taylor too.
(34:32):
I'll say other. Give me the field. I like it
all right, guys. Color of Kenny Pickett's gloves. Will they
be black? White? Or yellow? Um? None of the above.
I'll say yellow because I mean they're gonna wear the
white jerseys. What I was? I there a combination of them? Well,
like the majority color? I guess or pick it? Is
(34:56):
it the quarterback or receive it? Picket? Yeah? Um, I
don't know. Are no, just like the glove the back
of it because the pumps could be gray, could be white. Yeah,
think about white. Yeah, I guess yellow because I mean
(35:17):
it's not gonna be I don't They're not gonna be
all white, but there could be some black other I
don't know. This is a weird question, and I'm just
gonna say yellow. I'm gonna go yellow. What do you
got the bar? None of the above? What are you talking?
You gotta pick something? No, he's not gonna have gloves on.
They're gonna be indoors. He always has gloves, not today. Okay,
(35:39):
look at those hands all right, fellows, What does Matt
Ryan do first? Does he throw a touchdown? Does he
throw an interception? Does he run for positive yards? Or
does he take a sack? Oh? I think he takes
a sack. M I think he's oh man, yeah, I'm
gonna go take a sack one minute? What do you
(36:02):
got LaVar Ah? I think he's gonna take his back too. Yeah,
I think that's what. Finally, does ESPN show Jeff Saturday
working out before the game? Yes? Or no? Yes? They
already They already were running that this is gonna be
(36:23):
a pregame just completely focusing on him and pulling him up.
They were showing him doing push ups and sprints last
game like it just I said no, I said no,
They're gonna show him, but he's not gonna be working out.
By the way, you want to know how you know
Jeff Saturday is an interim coach right now? He doesn't
wear a hat, you know that? Like it always look
(36:44):
at his hair is kind of messy. Like he just
kind of threw out a hooded sweater and said, all right,
once you become head coach, Yeah, but like what do
you want to throw something on or at least comb
your hair a little bit, doesn't even comb his hair,
just saying, did you imagine that if you were saying
out about coach Tomlin? Hold up. Fox Sports Radio has
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