April 12, 2023 • 39 mins
Draft Boards open up after a notable trade in the NFL. The guys look at the details of the YouTube Sunday Ticket package and how it’s the best deal in entertainment. Plus, the midweek awards on “The Good, The Bad & The Ugly.”
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the NFL Draft is later on this month. We've talked
a lot about what is going to happen at the
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top of the draft. Well, what happened near the top
of the draft a couple of years ago is the
Detroit Lions took Jeffakuda, the cornerback out of Ohio State
back in two and twenty number three overall, and he
gone Jeffacuda was traded yesterday to the Atlanta Falcons. They
get a fifth round pick in exchange, and so now
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you see Atlanta going cornerback before the draft. Okuda, who's
been pretty much snake bit when it comes to injuries
coming into the NFL. He got dinged up a little
bit at the Combine suffered a core issue in training camp.
I think it was a rupture at achilles tendon he
also suffered early in his career. He did play better
last year, but he's been dealing with injuries. But nonetheless,
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the Detroit Lions after just a couple of years, go
away from a number three overall pick and they go
in the direction of acquiring a fifth round pick. So
maybe that changes where Detroit goes to the top of
the draft board. I mean, look, when he's when he's
been healthy, he's played, he's played pretty well. Um, you know,
rookie season had had a few hiccups, but when he
was playing, he was pretty good. And last year I
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thought he played really well. It was a bit surprised
and they move on from him because now, as you
know really look at or break down the roster, you're
kind of thinking, all right, I think I've got an
idea of where they maybe could go with the number
six pick. I think there was some thoughts of who
they would take depending on who was there. But you know,
now looking at the cornerback roster, I mean they might
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like some guys that they have a higher opinion of
than we do. Right Like Chauncey Gardner. Johnson's there. He's
kind of that that that nickel back safety type player
can match up a bunch of different ways. They've got
Cam Sutton who they signed as a free agent out
a pit and they got Emmanuel Moseley who they signed
as a free agent at one point out of San Franz.
But you know, look, maybe they feel like they are
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good enough with those guys. I would think they should
be able to upgrade in this draft. They've got two
first round picks. It's it's very possible they go cornerback
with one of those, and the other one I would
think would be an edge rusher. You know, you went
to Hutchinson last year. You go at another edge rusher,
you get another cornerback. You should feel pretty good about
where you're back. You know where you're out with Detroit.
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Let's not forget they were the worst defense in the
NFL last year, right thirty second, and they were thirtieth
against the pass. So clearly they need help rushing the pass,
are getting more pressure, and they also needed, you know,
more help covering and be able to limit some of
the big plays. I just think about one thing and
one thing only. When you're a top guy coming out
of college and you end up getting traded away, and
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that trade away value is a fifth round draft, it's
like it's not of like tremendous value, Like, well, so
he's played three years, He's going to the final year
of his rookie deal. So it makes sense in the
sense of like if they pick up a fief to
pay them, Yeah, I get it. I just ye man
fifth year or round pick, and it's like god, dang bro,
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like like can I be worth more than that? But
I'll say this. I will say this. In sports, it
truly is all about how you internalize what your present
and current situation is. I'm worth a fifth round pick,
So what are you going to do? How are you
gonna how are you going to navigate this? Are you
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going to figure it out? Because you were you were
able to figure it out and stay healthy enough to
get to the pros and be a top draft pick
and be highly highly acclaimed. Are you going to be
able to figure it out? Are you going are you
going to gut it up? And are you going to
prove the people that that valued you at a fifth
round draft pick? Are you going to prove them wrong?
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Or are you going to be I got traded for
a fifth round draft pick that guy? Are you gonna
be that guy? That's in some case In some ways,
that's what I love most about about sports, to be honest,
because sometimes we highly value someone and the value shouldn't
be there, and sometimes we don't value someone and the
value should be there. But you always get an opportunity
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in the game to prove what your value is. And
that's that to me, that's one of the beautiful things
about sports. And now he's in Atlanta Falcon. Yeah, I
think this has a little more to do with his
contract scenario too. Though Yeah, I get it, I get it,
but still but still personally like internalizing it, like I
get that, I do, I do get the business of it,
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but dang act I get it. But I'm saying you
could you could put any player in that situation if
he's got a year left on his deal. You're just
not gonna be able to get much in return. I mean,
look look at the situation right now between Green Bay
and the Jets. You know that the Jets are are
sitting saying no, we want more conversation, with more conversation,
and you know, or green basing that to the Jets,
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and it's like, well, we don't know how long he's
gonna be here, and if that's the concern, then they
don't want to give up more draft cap before God,
it's only going to be there for a year. Even
though you're talking about a guy that takes the Jets
from being the worst in the AFC East and a
potential now Super Bowl contender in the AFC. I mean,
I would imagine their odds are gonna be up there
below Kansas City and maybe below Buffalo and and and Sinci.
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But they're gonna be right around in that group. So
I just I think it's more to do it the
contracts situation. He's a good player when he's healthy, Like
that's the bottom line. You watch film on Jeff Okuda,
he's the number one, you know cornerback last year he
played really well. He just he hasn't been healthy, and
he's going into a situation where they might have had
they might have had some prelimited discussions about a long
term extension, and they're saying, if if this doesn't workout,
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you guys get something back in return, let us let
us move on and go to a place that needs
a cornerback. Because now he's across from aj Terrell and
they've got a little nice tantum of cornerbacks there in Atlanta.
I get it. I just if the value is there,
they're gonna figure it out. If the value isn't there,
you're gonna go somewhere else. I mean, that's just that's
that's what it is. I mean, if it's there, they
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get that extension done, they're not going to let him go.
But it's not there. So it's an Atlanta that if
you're looking at the top of the draft and the
Lions are sitting at six, and if we assume Arizona
is going to trade out at number three, and there's
going to be say a run on quarterbacks at the
top of the draft, so maybe you know Carolina Houston,
whoever trades with the Arizona and India at four, all
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take quarterbacks. I mean, if Seattle ends up taking Jalen Carter,
which is a lot of the speculation out there, Will
Anderson would be sitting there for Detroit if you run back.
Do you think that's a possibility. It's definitely a possibility.
I just I don't know. There's I don't know what
Arizona's gonna do. I'm not sure if they will be
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able to trade out of it, depend on what the
asking price is. You've got Houston that now seems to
be the team that I think is a big question
mark with what they do, and we could talk to
Albert Brier about that coming up here in the next segment.
But Tyree Wilson's the guy that I think will be there.
That makes a lot of sense. He's six foot six,
he's two hundred and seventy pounds, He's got a big
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frame showcase. I think a lot of ability of what
he could potentially be and you put him in there
across from Aiden Hutchinson. To me, it makes a lot
of sense. The other guy really like in this draft
at cornerback, as Christian Gonzalez had a hell of a
year at Oregon. He could play in any scheme He's
a guy that you might say at cornerback at six
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overall it might be a little rich. But if he
goes in and has the impact Sauce Gardner had last
year as a rookie, then you're not going to second
guess at one bit. Right if you could come into
be a lockdown cornerback and be maybe at right away
as a as a rookie, one of the best cornerbacks
in the league. So plus one fifty five on Gonzalez
first cornerback taken, plus one fifty five. Devin Witherspoon at
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Illinois A minus two hundred. Yeah, and he's the other one,
like a lot of people like, yeah, he's really nice.
He's a little undersized, about hundred eighty five pounds, but
he hits, he brings it, saying very similar as far
as you know, has all the tools and intangibles you're
looking for. It's a good cornerback class. I mean, Jodey
Porter Junior is a kind of tall, lankier cornerback, but
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but he man. You go back and watch the tape
of Marvin Harrison this year, he Joey Porter Jr. I
thought did the best of any any player against Marvin
Harris Junior this year. So, um, there's there's those, there's
those three Deontay Banks out of Maryland. He'll be a
first round pick. He's one of the fastest in their
good size, good frame sitting but I think it's like
six two something like that. And then you got this
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Emmanuel Forbes, you know, kid out of uh I believe
it's Mississippi State, and he's pretty long, but he's he's
really light. He's like one hundred and seventy hundred and
seventy five pounds. But when you turn on the tape
and watch him, he's got great ball skills, he's good
in coverage, he's everything you're looking for if you can
just you know, get past the fact that he's he's
got little bird legs and he's light. But outside of that,
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like he's another guy that could kind of flow into
that conversation. It's it's a good cornerback class. And so
Detroit might think that they take an edge player at
six because there's not quite as many and then maybe
you go cornerback with whoever's there with your second first
round on the Atlanta front, So the Falcons acquired Jeff
of cou Do they give up the fifth round pick.
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What the hell's Atlanta's plan at cornerback? All right, quarterback? Rather,
because I can't imagine Desmond Ritter and Taylor Heineke are
going to be the guys that you're going to depend
on going into this year. With Arthur Smith, you know,
in his third year, you would assume they've got to
see some growth there or else he could be in
jeopardy of losing his job. I just can't imagine they're
going to stay put a quarterback. It just doesn't make
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any sense to me. This is where I see the
value and saying, okay, you know we traded you know,
a fifth round pick for Jeff Kuda, and we try
to act like that that's any indication of a Kuda. Really,
what it could end up being is a package of
picks to move up. You know, maybe Atlanta's that team
that could potentially move up. You know, they've got that
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number eight overall pick, so that's a nice little pick swap.
Maybe they include that fifth round pick along with the
third round pick, and they and you start to equate
to that value of what they need to get to
in order to move up to number three. With Arizona
if they're potentially interested in one of these quarterbacks and
they feel like it would be a good fit, or
you know, if they go through the draft and it's
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not there, or maybe you know, the first round, something
happens where a team doesn't get the quarterback they're looking for.
Maybe that's part of the package of picks they can
use to try to go lure away, you know, someone
like Lamar Jackson. So you know, again you don't have to,
you know, do the two first round picks and the
whole offer sheet. You know, there's a little more negotiating
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that can be done. You know, if if you can
agree to a long term extension there, maybe maybe Baltimore
is trying to get more picks out of it when
it's all said and done. Yeah, it feels like we're
gonna have more movement as the draft approaches, which is
the fun time of the year. The NFL Draft later
on this month, and it is two pros and a
Cup of Joe here on a Wednesday, Fox Sports Radio,
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Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Two Pros and a
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Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up later on this hour,
we are going to have our Midweek Awards, the Good,
the Bad, and the Ugly, always a Wednesday tradition here
on FSRS, so make sure you stick around for that.
But we did get a little bit of a glimpse
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into what the future is going to look like in
the National Football League because YouTube has released their NFL
Sunday ticket pricing details for twenty twenty three, and it
looks like a fairly good deal. Like, by the way,
if you are already a YouTube TV subscriber, it's going
to be two forty nine a person if you purchased
by June six, then it goes up one hundred dollars
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if you purchase after June sixth and then it's two
eighty nine a season. If you be a person, like
if you're a person who purchases to Sunday take a package.
But what I'm saying if you have YouTube in your
house and you're already a subscriber to YouTube, Yeah you
said it's two hundred TV. Yeah right, okay, but I'm saying,
(14:23):
if you already have that in the house, what do
you mean per person? Or are you saying a restaurant
per season? Per season? I might have misspoke there, Okay,
So I apologize for that, or just trying to understand,
Like what am I doing here? No, no, I'll never
have am I preparing for Yeah? It never happened again,
so I'll make sure. No, no, no, I was just
making sure, Like what do you mean by per person?
Mistake number three of the show, only three? It's all good. No, No, no,
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I wasn't. I wasn't attacking you or anything or like
calling you out. I was. I was trying to understand it,
like like because I got a whole bunch of people
in my house. Yeah, I understand what San LaVar, Because
I was like, when I'm thinking about like these subscriptions
and and different things like sometimes they kind of block
you on all that. It's weird because like and I
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want the restaurant, so you just like buy a box,
Like you gotta get a certain amount of boxes, and
you gotta pay a certain amount if you do pay
per views and stuff like that. So I thought that's
what you might have meant. That's that's all. Don't don't
get don't get all passing aggressive. I'm not. I'm trying
to listen. You guys know. I like to take a
big time you know, just Dan Patrick yesterday, a big
(15:32):
time time. I'm not. It's funny too. He saved some
of his material for Dan Patrick too, like same subjects.
We talked about a little bit different take, you know,
a little different spin and all of that from from
all judge, listen, I mean, you know you got to
save the main event for the main event. I don't
know what to tell you, guys. I mean it's like
j kss on Saturdays, men, I don't know what you
guys expected. I mean they needed a perfect that's still
(15:53):
going on Saturdays. You're still doing that. Of course, I
leave in. I bring them in every every weekend. No,
I know Leavar was still going I didn't know if
I'm just saying, I make sure I bring him in, Like,
you know, it's like, listen, now, it's time for the
real show to start. Everybody buckle up, you know, get
ready because the JKS Show is it's coming. It's a point.
That's a great point right there. I appreciate it. Man,
(16:15):
stick City just keeping on lockdown for four hours on
a Saturday. Labar and I. You know what's wild though,
when you listen to his show on the weekend. He
is so happy when he I've literally listened and I
said this exact same thing to him. He's so happy.
He's so happy when he does his show on Saturday.
(16:36):
Like You're like, you're like hair during the week and
then on the weekend. It's like, hey, everybody, why do
we get me sounding like that? Why do I sound
You're like this? Look Jordan. The week it's like, yeah,
welcome to two Pros and a Cup of Joe. I'm
just a professional. Look, I'm happy to do radio regardless
whether it's two Pros and a cup of Joe, whether
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it's the JKS Show, which can be at eleven to
one Pacific time, that's two to four Eastern time, every
Saturday afternoon. I mean, listen. I'm just happy to do
radio period. I'm a radio junkie. And I'm also happy
that YouTube TV has brought out these pricing for the
NFL Sunday ticket because it is a little bit cheaper
than what Direct TV brought out. And I would argue
(17:19):
the Sunday ticket pack it's more expensive, isn't that cheaper? Well,
if you have YouTube TV, it's cheaper. It's like about
fifty bucks cheaper on the year, as opposed to Direct
TV that like hundred lee what number do you have
because you had like three fifty per year? Right? Yeah,
well there is if you get in before June six,
it's one hundred dollars cheaper. But if you get in
after that, it's going to be more expensive than your
Direct TV package. Uh. And then you're and then you're
(17:42):
looking at if you want to get the zone, makes
it more expensive. So they're trying to bully you into
getting a lower price, but but give you a higher
one if you don't pay by a certain time. Yeah. Well, look,
this is essentially what Amazon is going to do too
with all their stuff. Hold on, all they have to
do with get you in the door, and then they
incrementally raise the subscription prices because if they go from
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nine to twelve ninety nine, you're like, oh, that's not
that big of a deal. And next thing, you know,
the year after that, it's it's nineteen ninety nine, and
you're like, well, you know, I can't live without it.
I've obviously got to have Amazon Prime and I have
had this subscription, I have to have YouTube. T Like,
that's how this works. I mean, the model of things
going to streaming, it's gonna mimic what it's been as
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far as how it's been with cable. Like, eventually it
just it all resorts to the same model. It's no,
it's no different than how you know YouTube, but maybe
not even will YouTube already uses ads, but Netflix, um,
some of their streaming services that are out there, they
all eventually have to get away from just using a
subscription model and they have to bring in advertisements. It's
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the only way for them to continue to grow and
make money. And so it's just it's funny to me,
how you know you can sign up for it. You're
just you're looking for a way to watch football. That's
the bottom line, and the cost is gonna be the cost.
You can do it now and sign up, that's great,
but eventually it's going to keep increasing over time. That's
just how this works. Yeah, and it's always going to
go up. And my brother's restaurant, every single year they
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were jacking up the price. I mean the one year
that they kept the price the same I think was
after the COVID year. I think it was the year
they kept the price the same, but they charged my capacity,
like Lavars mentioned on the show before, and they go through,
they count how many seats and you end up paying
thousands upon thousands of dollars. But it's to the point
football is so popular you have to have it. If
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you want to compete, they can charge you whatever they want.
You've got to have it. And from an individual standpoint,
if you just look at the price for Sunday ticket
with red Zone, whatever it is, I will pay it
every single year because if you go to one game
with a family of four, you're paying well over what
you're paying for the entire season to get every single
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game for Sunday ticket, whether it's on direct TV or YouTube.
So for me, I think this is the best bang
for your buck in sports as far as sports and tainment,
I go to the bar, screw that, come on, Berto, Yeah,
but how many eight o five? Yeah? You pitcher of
eight oh five and a Raider game, and then you
can only see one game though you're only focused on
(20:12):
the Raiders. Watch the Raiders anyway, that's byle home and
watch the Sunday night game. On that point, a lot
of people thought there was going to be the option
to where you could pick just one team and purchase that. Yeah,
that's not available this year. That would not be available.
That's probably gonna be available when they realize maybe they're
losing some numbers, and they go, all right, so we've
better roll this one out for twelve ninety nine a
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week or whatever it is to watch be able to
control one game? Did Apple TV do that with the MLS? Though?
I mean they went straight to streaming direct to consume, right.
I believe that you can. You can do that. You
can do like all a cart and just follow one
particular team if you want. I think they have that option.
I could be wrong, but I thought I heard, um,
who was it, Oh Jose Moss who owns the Miami
(20:57):
MLS team. He was talking about that, and maybe that
should exist to some degree, right. I mean, if you're looking,
if you're the NFL and you're looking for more ways
to generate revenue or even for just the individual owners,
I think you should supply them that, you know, opportunity
to do so. I think the problem is then they
feel like, well, if we start, you know, fractioning off
a lot of our viewership, you know, we're not going
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to be able to grow the game. How things like
fantasy football have If you think about why NFL has
become you know, in my opinion, at least that the
top sport outside of it just being a badass sport,
you know, fantasy football has been a big part of it,
and it's it's expanded the game because you've got people
watching now multiple games to watch their players or at
least tracking them to that degree. I think if you
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go back to like allowing Burnough just only to purchase
the Raider's package, he's gonna be paying less and he's
not paying attention to the rest of the league. That's
gonna end up hurting viewership. So I'm sure that's all
part of it too in their thought process of why
they don't maybe offer something like that. Yeah, I just think, listen,
if you're gonna pay money to watch football, I mean,
I'd rather sit at home and pay whatever these prices
(22:04):
are and have the ability to watch every single game.
Then I have to worry about trying to go to
a stadium or go to a sports bar or go
to anywhere like that. I just in the end, I
think if you do that through, if you go to
a sports bar just to watch one team over the
course of a season, I would venture to guess through
seventeen eighteen games, you're end up spending more money at
(22:24):
the bar than you would at home just for one
season of direct TV Sunday ticket or even if they
had live betting at that stadium, well that's another story.
I mean, listen, I need a fix. So there's the
new frontier for you. It is all right, so if
you can add, but you can bet from home right now,
and once they start building these brick and mortar sports
books at these stadiums that they've already gotten approval for
(22:46):
and you can do it, I think for like seventeen
or eighteen teams you're allowed to do it. Not out
here in California. Why would you want legalized sports betting
out here in California. Yeah, now none of that. Everything
else is allowed, but no, not that you know. God
for maybe we want a little bit extra revenue in
this state. Uh, you know, we're just gonna have to
continue to pay six dollars a gallon for gas while
while people are afraid to bet an over under on
(23:08):
some NCAA tournament game. What a bunch of candy asses.
Get it together. Let's start gambling, start betting, grow up.
But YouTube TV, those are the prices. It's about four
hundred dollars a year, and I think it's money wells.
I think they're going to ever start in in gang
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gambling like how they do in boxing, which actually it's
not kind of end match boxing gambling, but they'll give
you the odds of you know, betting. Yeah, I mean,
and you think they'll ever incorporate that into the NFL
or college Yeah, oh yeah, I mean where you can
actually like you have to play. I think you have
(23:50):
to do it in real time at the game. I
mean obviously, and they still have elements of this, I
think to a degree. But the hard thing is is
like if you're if you're got a lag and and
you place that bet, I mean oh yeah, yeah, you
know what I'm saying, Like you could be way behind
and you're like, oh, I missed out on that one.
And there have been a couple of times where, you know,
somebody work in a counter at a sports book in
(24:13):
Vegas forgets to update the odds and doesn't realize that
there's a baseball game in Taiwan that's going on that's
a recorded and somebody realizes they can get odds if
they know a team's coming back, and the sports book
ended up losing like twenty or forty thousand dollars because
a couple of guys recognized some guy who was asleep
at the wheel behind the counter and went and placed
a bunch of money and there was nothing they could
(24:34):
do about it, so they were out on their ass
like forty grand. I'm sure, I'm sure sports books really
out on its ass for forty grand, and that guy
was probably out in his ass from a job. That's
what I would say. But you know what it sounds like,
by the way, it sounds like live bed Jesus. I mean, Lee,
I think you we've heard this story before. You know,
there's a live event and going on live bed Jesus
(24:54):
shows up doesn't reflect ends up getting even better odds.
I mean that story it's never happened before with Live
bed Jesus hasn'tly no, no, not, of course, of course,
not with Live bet Jesus. He never waits till the
end to make sure that everything's on the up and up.
It's always been on the up and up. I haven't
seen Live bet Jesus in a while. What's up with that?
Thank God? I don't know. I mean I asked these guys.
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I mean, they're chasing him away. We've had events, we've
had Who are these guys? Berto, I'm the one that welcome.
I mean, it's a bunch of craps. So Todd can
be a guest. You've got Petros, you've got Albert Brier,
But God forbid, Live bet Jesus can't be a guest
without getting ridiculed. You guys are nice to Todd, You're
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nice to Petros, you're nice to Albert Brier. Live bet
Jesus comes on and he's actually the only one making
anybody any money. Why you got so much beef and
drama in your voice? Mat He loses almost every bed,
and on top of that, he lies. I don't have
a problem with Live bet Jesus. I don't know why
(25:57):
you put me into this conversation. Now, always support when
Madonna comes on and liab bet Jesus comes out of
the sky and the light star flicker and then all
that stuff. I've never not supported. And you've been here,
you've seen how real it isn't I don't don't understand
how I became a part of this, Yeah, said Bastandard
(26:17):
Bang bang. You know, I don't know. It's actually better
for the show that he's not a part of it.
But you know, again, more more positive feedback I'm talking
about here, just attacked, ridiculed. Why why are you people
want to be attacked? I thought you're not Live bet Jesus. Okay,
hold on, I just got fine ten dollars for simply
pointing out that Live bet Jesus is being made fun
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of on the air. So I got fine ten dollars
for that? How is that? You're being passive? As I understand?
So what does anybody else get fined anymore? Is it
only me? Is it? Does the fine only apply to me?
We've talked, We've talked about the Washington commanders. I don't
talk about the Washington commanders. I mean, we sait, we
sait create a different fine for for me. That that's
(27:03):
I just don't. I don't talk. Okay, somebody did throw
this out, now that you remind me, somebody threw this
out on Twitter. They said that you should be fined
every time you embellish how overweight you are. Oh, I
don't overbell over embellish. And I'm offended. I'm I'm I'm
tremendously offended by whoever would say that. Okay, fight with this.
(27:24):
This is account we don't know. This is a very
real This is very real what I'm dealing with. Okay, No,
it's not. People should not be joking about my weight issues.
You struggle with it. You describe you're wearing this apparatus
that keeps your belly from you saying you're saying it.
Say it's a lie, Say it's a lot. Okay, it's
(27:44):
a lie. You are wearing that, thank you. But here
he pretends like his stomach is a fire hose that
he can't control, and he needs multiple people that may
not have a fire hose that can't be controlled. But
it's not my belly is what it is? Is it
like one of those things that like moving guys wear,
you know when they're when yeah come yeah, yeah yeah, okay,
(28:05):
So it is more posture. It's not like it's more
I was picturing you remember the old days, like no,
they had remember the little pool like walk on a No,
you'd walk on a treadmill and you'd have the little
band around your stuff and you'll like rub and jiggle, yeah,
jiggle the fat off or you. Yeah, I was picturing
(28:26):
you wearing like that or doing that sort of thing. No, No,
it's like a girdle. Yeah. Has ever tried the electrode
ones where like it shocks your abs? Yeah, it's just
elect youll stem. I haven't. There's a lot of stuff
that was designed. Man, I don't have abs to do that.
Like I wouldn't put one of those electrode things on
like a ball of fat, you know what I mean.
(28:48):
Like it's like I could see if I could see
abs and I put that electrode on, it's like okay,
put it on that ab on that ab boom on
that app right, But I don't have that, so you know,
you know, it's become really pops. They call it cold
sculpting and so they'll like freeze away the fat and
so you'll see it's a really it's interesting. What's happening?
(29:09):
Does Oscar de loy have that he's got something going
on with his abs? Now, del I don't know if
that's that, but I know it helps like contour or
shape it. You know, Berta, what do you think dey
just coke cocaine? He's stupid, by the way, let's just coke.
(29:31):
What are what would be going on with his abs?
That would be good? Like you're making it seem like
there's something else going on. I'm telling you, look at him.
They don't move. He went from a guy who was
out of shape and last time you saw him wear
anything other than a boxing gloves he was dressed up
as a woman and he in like laundreta and then
then he had to be built good. Then do you
(29:53):
think he's got him drawn off? I don't know. If
you look at him saying there's just they're weird, there's
something going on there. It's like that guy who's it
was the Loca, Yeah, thank you dal Lajoia. That was
Oscar joining us. But like liver King, that guy didn't
he have fake abs? Like there's something going on the
liver King. Those aren't fake abs. No, I'm telling you
(30:14):
look up liver King Oscar de la Hoya in your
search history. Maybe Todd can do it since apparently he's
interning because Lee won't let him leave the building. But
if you look up liver King Oscar de Lajoia, they've
got fake abs. I'm telling you, Todd your thoughts on
this situation. Yeah, so um, I'm I'm back here. In
the other stood Natzi Lee and it was Underson proven fake.
(30:37):
Everything about him was proven fake, and he did an
apology video about how fake it is. Back to Lee, Oh,
they're not fake. He just he said he wasn't taking
pds and and he actually had a whole stack of
p abs. Yeah, that's that's real abs. It's real muscle.
But I mean, if anyone's seen him work out, he's strong.
(31:00):
But he's also on the gas. Yeah, love be some gas.
And by the way, it's not even just like test
like he's on all of it. He's sort of like
listing off. I was like, my god, he play and everything.
I was like, okay, he's a he's a right, like
he knows exactly what he's doing. If you're gonna do it?
Do what How the liver kiings doing it? Because he
was you know, it's like his spice car. How do
(31:21):
they call him the liver king because he would eat
liver and he ate this diet that he was proclaiming
was why he was so jacked. And then they come
to find out he's actually on a stack of test
and H G H and everything else. Yeah, everything you
under the sun that you can think. It doesn't by
the way, it doesn't take away from the fact that
he's jacked. Oh yeah, he's And listen, he does work hard.
(31:44):
It's not like he's not he's just taking it and
laying around on his ass. He's he does work hard.
It's just it's not liver the two and all that. Okay,
we're all oscar abs are interesting. There's something I apologize Jonas.
Maybe he's got literally like a you know, the Halloween
like abs they put telling you there's something going on there. Man,
(32:05):
I think you're right. Maybe they put that in there
to look like there's something going on with Delia's abs
did not look like that. Well, last time I saw him,
when he was wearing lingerie, he did not have those abs.
I can confirm that dal laya but very interesting guy.
How did he lose abs when he was active? Yeah,
that's true. When he was a world box seting, he
(32:25):
didn't have abs like that. Yeah, when he was the
world champion, no abs like that. Okay, so all right,
it is two pros, and we spent the whole half
of the segment hating on two people's abs. I mean,
some people at least have the problem and the issue
of having their abs made fun of. I mean people
like me, we don't have that issue. We don't We
don't have people making fun of our ads because you know,
(32:47):
there are no abs. You know, it's just it's just
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lead the lab who's got what this week? Well, as
we do each and every Wednesday, we start with the
good and La Bar has the privilege of giving us. Yeah,
let's go, Bar, what's up? You know what? You know?
What's good this week? Guys? Spring football? Spring football is
(35:23):
good this week. I'm actually heading the state college tomorrow. Um,
getting out of there, getting out of here. Yeah, but
but you know, high school springball has started. Um, it's
so funny. Seniors always say the next team isn't going
to be that good because they don't have anybody. The
young guys are like, yeah, we're gonna try to do
(35:44):
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guys get out there for the first time and then
you know they're they're now the going to be the
uprising seniors or the uprising juniors that that are, you know,
showing that leadership. So it's good. It's good to be
back in spring ball. Guys, you can't have good without
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the bad. Jonas what was bad this week, I'm gonna
go with the stretch of luck that the Minnesota Timberwolves
have had over the past three four days, and all
of that luck was created by themselves, whether it's Rudy
Gobert punching a teammate and getting suspended for the play
in game, whether it was another guy walking off the
court and then punch in and breaking his hand on
a wall, and then the conclusion of last night's game
(36:29):
against the La Lakers, where Minnesota was in control, played
their hearts out and then they got late into that game.
Even after a couple of inbound passes that went awrived
from the Lakers and Lebron James and Mike Conley getting
fouled and hitting three free throws to end regulation, they
go into overtime. Not a good stretcher of luck for
the Minnesota Timberwolves. Again, all created by themselves. A bad
(36:52):
run for the Tea Wolves. I'm gonna go with that
for my bad for the week. And Phillis it can't
be that ugly when Brady has the ugly this week. Brady,
what was ugly? Yeah? Oh, thanks man, that's really nice
of you to say what was ugly? There were some
ugly moments at the Masters this past weekend for anyone
who stalled Tiger Woods, who had to withdraw after making
the cut moving around that leg, that knee. I'm just
(37:15):
not sure how many more seventy two whole rounds he'll
be able to make it in. He's obviously one of
the greatest of all time, maybe in his prime, the
greatest for that period of time, and without good you know,
he was playing, but unfortunately with all the different injuries
things he's had. It's just it's it's bad. You feel
bad for him. But what was ugly was brooks Kepka
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on Sunday after having a four stroke lead. They obviously
had to play at the end of the third round
as well as the final round and beginning up to
minus thirteen, just struggling having to try to beat John Ram,
who ended up winning by four strokes when it was
all said and done. And obviously the big joke is this.
You know, the Live Golf Tour only plays what fifty
(38:02):
two fifty four holes whatever it is, and uh, you know,
he had to play another eighteen, which is a custom
on the PGA Tour, not so much on the Live Tour,
and he ended up struggling mightily. So it's kind of
turned ugly. It was a long round. Obviously he didn't
play the way he needed to, and so there's a
lot of people saying it's it's kind of ugly right
now with the whole Live Tour and kept us play
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claim that it was the Planner fashitis that was the
reason he stopped playing. Man, I mean it's a lot.
They all, they're all combined. I mean that leg is
gonna have issues up and down, foot, knee, everything. I mean,
I've had Planner fascitis. I still did radio. Couldn't he
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the NFL Draft is later on this month. We've talked
a lot about what is going to happen at the
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top of the draft. Well, what happened near the top
of the draft a couple of years ago is the
Detroit Lions took Jeffakuda, the cornerback out of Ohio State
back in two and twenty number three overall, and he
gone Jeffacuda was traded yesterday to the Atlanta Falcons. They
get a fifth round pick in exchange, and so now
(02:26):
you see Atlanta going cornerback before the draft. Okuda, who's
been pretty much snake bit when it comes to injuries
coming into the NFL. He got dinged up a little
bit at the Combine suffered a core issue in training camp.
I think it was a rupture at achilles tendon he
also suffered early in his career. He did play better
last year, but he's been dealing with injuries. But nonetheless,
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the Detroit Lions after just a couple of years, go
away from a number three overall pick and they go
in the direction of acquiring a fifth round pick. So
maybe that changes where Detroit goes to the top of
the draft board. I mean, look, when he's when he's
been healthy, he's played, he's played pretty well. Um, you know,
rookie season had had a few hiccups, but when he
was playing, he was pretty good. And last year I
(03:09):
thought he played really well. It was a bit surprised
and they move on from him because now, as you
know really look at or break down the roster, you're
kind of thinking, all right, I think I've got an
idea of where they maybe could go with the number
six pick. I think there was some thoughts of who
they would take depending on who was there. But you know,
now looking at the cornerback roster, I mean they might
(03:30):
like some guys that they have a higher opinion of
than we do. Right Like Chauncey Gardner. Johnson's there. He's
kind of that that that nickel back safety type player
can match up a bunch of different ways. They've got
Cam Sutton who they signed as a free agent out
a pit and they got Emmanuel Moseley who they signed
as a free agent at one point out of San Franz.
But you know, look, maybe they feel like they are
(03:53):
good enough with those guys. I would think they should
be able to upgrade in this draft. They've got two
first round picks. It's it's very possible they go cornerback
with one of those, and the other one I would
think would be an edge rusher. You know, you went
to Hutchinson last year. You go at another edge rusher,
you get another cornerback. You should feel pretty good about
where you're back. You know where you're out with Detroit.
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Let's not forget they were the worst defense in the
NFL last year, right thirty second, and they were thirtieth
against the pass. So clearly they need help rushing the pass,
are getting more pressure, and they also needed, you know,
more help covering and be able to limit some of
the big plays. I just think about one thing and
one thing only. When you're a top guy coming out
of college and you end up getting traded away, and
(04:39):
that trade away value is a fifth round draft, it's
like it's not of like tremendous value, Like, well, so
he's played three years, He's going to the final year
of his rookie deal. So it makes sense in the
sense of like if they pick up a fief to
pay them, Yeah, I get it. I just ye man
fifth year or round pick, and it's like god, dang bro,
(05:02):
like like can I be worth more than that? But
I'll say this. I will say this. In sports, it
truly is all about how you internalize what your present
and current situation is. I'm worth a fifth round pick,
So what are you going to do? How are you
gonna how are you going to navigate this? Are you
(05:24):
going to figure it out? Because you were you were
able to figure it out and stay healthy enough to
get to the pros and be a top draft pick
and be highly highly acclaimed. Are you going to be
able to figure it out? Are you going are you
going to gut it up? And are you going to
prove the people that that valued you at a fifth
round draft pick? Are you going to prove them wrong?
(05:46):
Or are you going to be I got traded for
a fifth round draft pick that guy? Are you gonna
be that guy? That's in some case In some ways,
that's what I love most about about sports, to be honest,
because sometimes we highly value someone and the value shouldn't
be there, and sometimes we don't value someone and the
value should be there. But you always get an opportunity
(06:08):
in the game to prove what your value is. And
that's that to me, that's one of the beautiful things
about sports. And now he's in Atlanta Falcon. Yeah, I
think this has a little more to do with his
contract scenario too. Though Yeah, I get it, I get it,
but still but still personally like internalizing it, like I
get that, I do, I do get the business of it,
(06:30):
but dang act I get it. But I'm saying you
could you could put any player in that situation if
he's got a year left on his deal. You're just
not gonna be able to get much in return. I mean,
look look at the situation right now between Green Bay
and the Jets. You know that the Jets are are
sitting saying no, we want more conversation, with more conversation,
and you know, or green basing that to the Jets,
(06:53):
and it's like, well, we don't know how long he's
gonna be here, and if that's the concern, then they
don't want to give up more draft cap before God,
it's only going to be there for a year. Even
though you're talking about a guy that takes the Jets
from being the worst in the AFC East and a
potential now Super Bowl contender in the AFC. I mean,
I would imagine their odds are gonna be up there
below Kansas City and maybe below Buffalo and and and Sinci.
(07:16):
But they're gonna be right around in that group. So
I just I think it's more to do it the
contracts situation. He's a good player when he's healthy, Like
that's the bottom line. You watch film on Jeff Okuda,
he's the number one, you know cornerback last year he
played really well. He just he hasn't been healthy, and
he's going into a situation where they might have had
they might have had some prelimited discussions about a long
term extension, and they're saying, if if this doesn't workout,
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you guys get something back in return, let us let
us move on and go to a place that needs
a cornerback. Because now he's across from aj Terrell and
they've got a little nice tantum of cornerbacks there in Atlanta.
I get it. I just if the value is there,
they're gonna figure it out. If the value isn't there,
you're gonna go somewhere else. I mean, that's just that's
that's what it is. I mean, if it's there, they
(08:01):
get that extension done, they're not going to let him go.
But it's not there. So it's an Atlanta that if
you're looking at the top of the draft and the
Lions are sitting at six, and if we assume Arizona
is going to trade out at number three, and there's
going to be say a run on quarterbacks at the
top of the draft, so maybe you know Carolina Houston,
whoever trades with the Arizona and India at four, all
(08:22):
take quarterbacks. I mean, if Seattle ends up taking Jalen Carter,
which is a lot of the speculation out there, Will
Anderson would be sitting there for Detroit if you run back.
Do you think that's a possibility. It's definitely a possibility.
I just I don't know. There's I don't know what
Arizona's gonna do. I'm not sure if they will be
(08:42):
able to trade out of it, depend on what the
asking price is. You've got Houston that now seems to
be the team that I think is a big question
mark with what they do, and we could talk to
Albert Brier about that coming up here in the next segment.
But Tyree Wilson's the guy that I think will be there.
That makes a lot of sense. He's six foot six,
he's two hundred and seventy pounds, He's got a big
(09:03):
frame showcase. I think a lot of ability of what
he could potentially be and you put him in there
across from Aiden Hutchinson. To me, it makes a lot
of sense. The other guy really like in this draft
at cornerback, as Christian Gonzalez had a hell of a
year at Oregon. He could play in any scheme He's
a guy that you might say at cornerback at six
(09:23):
overall it might be a little rich. But if he
goes in and has the impact Sauce Gardner had last
year as a rookie, then you're not going to second
guess at one bit. Right if you could come into
be a lockdown cornerback and be maybe at right away
as a as a rookie, one of the best cornerbacks
in the league. So plus one fifty five on Gonzalez
first cornerback taken, plus one fifty five. Devin Witherspoon at
(09:44):
Illinois A minus two hundred. Yeah, and he's the other one,
like a lot of people like, yeah, he's really nice.
He's a little undersized, about hundred eighty five pounds, but
he hits, he brings it, saying very similar as far
as you know, has all the tools and intangibles you're
looking for. It's a good cornerback class. I mean, Jodey
Porter Junior is a kind of tall, lankier cornerback, but
(10:06):
but he man. You go back and watch the tape
of Marvin Harrison this year, he Joey Porter Jr. I
thought did the best of any any player against Marvin
Harris Junior this year. So, um, there's there's those, there's
those three Deontay Banks out of Maryland. He'll be a
first round pick. He's one of the fastest in their
good size, good frame sitting but I think it's like
six two something like that. And then you got this
(10:28):
Emmanuel Forbes, you know, kid out of uh I believe
it's Mississippi State, and he's pretty long, but he's he's
really light. He's like one hundred and seventy hundred and
seventy five pounds. But when you turn on the tape
and watch him, he's got great ball skills, he's good
in coverage, he's everything you're looking for if you can
just you know, get past the fact that he's he's
got little bird legs and he's light. But outside of that,
(10:50):
like he's another guy that could kind of flow into
that conversation. It's it's a good cornerback class. And so
Detroit might think that they take an edge player at
six because there's not quite as many and then maybe
you go cornerback with whoever's there with your second first
round on the Atlanta front, So the Falcons acquired Jeff
of cou Do they give up the fifth round pick.
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What the hell's Atlanta's plan at cornerback? All right, quarterback? Rather,
because I can't imagine Desmond Ritter and Taylor Heineke are
going to be the guys that you're going to depend
on going into this year. With Arthur Smith, you know,
in his third year, you would assume they've got to
see some growth there or else he could be in
jeopardy of losing his job. I just can't imagine they're
going to stay put a quarterback. It just doesn't make
(11:33):
any sense to me. This is where I see the
value and saying, okay, you know we traded you know,
a fifth round pick for Jeff Kuda, and we try
to act like that that's any indication of a Kuda. Really,
what it could end up being is a package of
picks to move up. You know, maybe Atlanta's that team
that could potentially move up. You know, they've got that
(11:54):
number eight overall pick, so that's a nice little pick swap.
Maybe they include that fifth round pick along with the
third round pick, and they and you start to equate
to that value of what they need to get to
in order to move up to number three. With Arizona
if they're potentially interested in one of these quarterbacks and
they feel like it would be a good fit, or
you know, if they go through the draft and it's
(12:15):
not there, or maybe you know, the first round, something
happens where a team doesn't get the quarterback they're looking for.
Maybe that's part of the package of picks they can
use to try to go lure away, you know, someone
like Lamar Jackson. So you know, again you don't have to,
you know, do the two first round picks and the
whole offer sheet. You know, there's a little more negotiating
(12:37):
that can be done. You know, if if you can
agree to a long term extension there, maybe maybe Baltimore
is trying to get more picks out of it when
it's all said and done. Yeah, it feels like we're
gonna have more movement as the draft approaches, which is
the fun time of the year. The NFL Draft later
on this month, and it is two pros and a
Cup of Joe here on a Wednesday, Fox Sports Radio,
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on FSRS, so make sure you stick around for that.
But we did get a little bit of a glimpse
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into what the future is going to look like in
the National Football League because YouTube has released their NFL
Sunday ticket pricing details for twenty twenty three, and it
looks like a fairly good deal. Like, by the way,
if you are already a YouTube TV subscriber, it's going
to be two forty nine a person if you purchased
by June six, then it goes up one hundred dollars
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if you purchase after June sixth and then it's two
eighty nine a season. If you be a person, like
if you're a person who purchases to Sunday take a package.
But what I'm saying if you have YouTube in your
house and you're already a subscriber to YouTube, Yeah you
said it's two hundred TV. Yeah right, okay, but I'm saying,
(14:23):
if you already have that in the house, what do
you mean per person? Or are you saying a restaurant
per season? Per season? I might have misspoke there, Okay,
So I apologize for that, or just trying to understand,
Like what am I doing here? No, no, I'll never
have am I preparing for Yeah? It never happened again,
so I'll make sure. No, no, no, I was just
making sure, Like what do you mean by per person?
Mistake number three of the show, only three? It's all good. No, No, no,
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I wasn't. I wasn't attacking you or anything or like
calling you out. I was. I was trying to understand it,
like like because I got a whole bunch of people
in my house. Yeah, I understand what San LaVar, Because
I was like, when I'm thinking about like these subscriptions
and and different things like sometimes they kind of block
you on all that. It's weird because like and I
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want the restaurant, so you just like buy a box,
Like you gotta get a certain amount of boxes, and
you gotta pay a certain amount if you do pay
per views and stuff like that. So I thought that's
what you might have meant. That's that's all. Don't don't
get don't get all passing aggressive. I'm not. I'm trying
to listen. You guys know. I like to take a
big time you know, just Dan Patrick yesterday, a big
(15:32):
time time. I'm not. It's funny too. He saved some
of his material for Dan Patrick too, like same subjects.
We talked about a little bit different take, you know,
a little different spin and all of that from from
all judge, listen, I mean, you know you got to
save the main event for the main event. I don't
know what to tell you, guys. I mean it's like
j kss on Saturdays, men, I don't know what you
guys expected. I mean they needed a perfect that's still
(15:53):
going on Saturdays. You're still doing that. Of course, I
leave in. I bring them in every every weekend. No,
I know Leavar was still going I didn't know if
I'm just saying, I make sure I bring him in, Like,
you know, it's like, listen, now, it's time for the
real show to start. Everybody buckle up, you know, get
ready because the JKS Show is it's coming. It's a point.
That's a great point right there. I appreciate it. Man,
(16:15):
stick City just keeping on lockdown for four hours on
a Saturday. Labar and I. You know what's wild though,
when you listen to his show on the weekend. He
is so happy when he I've literally listened and I
said this exact same thing to him. He's so happy.
He's so happy when he does his show on Saturday.
(16:36):
Like You're like, you're like hair during the week and
then on the weekend. It's like, hey, everybody, why do
we get me sounding like that? Why do I sound
You're like this? Look Jordan. The week it's like, yeah,
welcome to two Pros and a Cup of Joe. I'm
just a professional. Look, I'm happy to do radio regardless
whether it's two Pros and a cup of Joe, whether
(16:58):
it's the JKS Show, which can be at eleven to
one Pacific time, that's two to four Eastern time, every
Saturday afternoon. I mean, listen. I'm just happy to do
radio period. I'm a radio junkie. And I'm also happy
that YouTube TV has brought out these pricing for the
NFL Sunday ticket because it is a little bit cheaper
than what Direct TV brought out. And I would argue
(17:19):
the Sunday ticket pack it's more expensive, isn't that cheaper? Well,
if you have YouTube TV, it's cheaper. It's like about
fifty bucks cheaper on the year, as opposed to Direct
TV that like hundred lee what number do you have
because you had like three fifty per year? Right? Yeah,
well there is if you get in before June six,
it's one hundred dollars cheaper. But if you get in
after that, it's going to be more expensive than your
Direct TV package. Uh. And then you're and then you're
(17:42):
looking at if you want to get the zone, makes
it more expensive. So they're trying to bully you into
getting a lower price, but but give you a higher
one if you don't pay by a certain time. Yeah. Well, look,
this is essentially what Amazon is going to do too
with all their stuff. Hold on, all they have to
do with get you in the door, and then they
incrementally raise the subscription prices because if they go from
(18:06):
nine to twelve ninety nine, you're like, oh, that's not
that big of a deal. And next thing, you know,
the year after that, it's it's nineteen ninety nine, and
you're like, well, you know, I can't live without it.
I've obviously got to have Amazon Prime and I have
had this subscription, I have to have YouTube. T Like,
that's how this works. I mean, the model of things
going to streaming, it's gonna mimic what it's been as
(18:27):
far as how it's been with cable. Like, eventually it
just it all resorts to the same model. It's no,
it's no different than how you know YouTube, but maybe
not even will YouTube already uses ads, but Netflix, um,
some of their streaming services that are out there, they
all eventually have to get away from just using a
subscription model and they have to bring in advertisements. It's
(18:49):
the only way for them to continue to grow and
make money. And so it's just it's funny to me,
how you know you can sign up for it. You're
just you're looking for a way to watch football. That's
the bottom line, and the cost is gonna be the cost.
You can do it now and sign up, that's great,
but eventually it's going to keep increasing over time. That's
just how this works. Yeah, and it's always going to
go up. And my brother's restaurant, every single year they
(19:11):
were jacking up the price. I mean the one year
that they kept the price the same I think was
after the COVID year. I think it was the year
they kept the price the same, but they charged my capacity,
like Lavars mentioned on the show before, and they go through,
they count how many seats and you end up paying
thousands upon thousands of dollars. But it's to the point
football is so popular you have to have it. If
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you want to compete, they can charge you whatever they want.
You've got to have it. And from an individual standpoint,
if you just look at the price for Sunday ticket
with red Zone, whatever it is, I will pay it
every single year because if you go to one game
with a family of four, you're paying well over what
you're paying for the entire season to get every single
(19:52):
game for Sunday ticket, whether it's on direct TV or YouTube.
So for me, I think this is the best bang
for your buck in sports as far as sports and tainment,
I go to the bar, screw that, come on, Berto, Yeah,
but how many eight o five? Yeah? You pitcher of
eight oh five and a Raider game, and then you
can only see one game though you're only focused on
(20:12):
the Raiders. Watch the Raiders anyway, that's byle home and
watch the Sunday night game. On that point, a lot
of people thought there was going to be the option
to where you could pick just one team and purchase that. Yeah,
that's not available this year. That would not be available.
That's probably gonna be available when they realize maybe they're
losing some numbers, and they go, all right, so we've
better roll this one out for twelve ninety nine a
(20:35):
week or whatever it is to watch be able to
control one game? Did Apple TV do that with the MLS? Though?
I mean they went straight to streaming direct to consume, right.
I believe that you can. You can do that. You
can do like all a cart and just follow one
particular team if you want. I think they have that option.
I could be wrong, but I thought I heard, um,
who was it, Oh Jose Moss who owns the Miami
(20:57):
MLS team. He was talking about that, and maybe that
should exist to some degree, right. I mean, if you're looking,
if you're the NFL and you're looking for more ways
to generate revenue or even for just the individual owners,
I think you should supply them that, you know, opportunity
to do so. I think the problem is then they
feel like, well, if we start, you know, fractioning off
a lot of our viewership, you know, we're not going
(21:19):
to be able to grow the game. How things like
fantasy football have If you think about why NFL has
become you know, in my opinion, at least that the
top sport outside of it just being a badass sport,
you know, fantasy football has been a big part of it,
and it's it's expanded the game because you've got people
watching now multiple games to watch their players or at
least tracking them to that degree. I think if you
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go back to like allowing Burnough just only to purchase
the Raider's package, he's gonna be paying less and he's
not paying attention to the rest of the league. That's
gonna end up hurting viewership. So I'm sure that's all
part of it too in their thought process of why
they don't maybe offer something like that. Yeah, I just think, listen,
if you're gonna pay money to watch football, I mean,
I'd rather sit at home and pay whatever these prices
(22:04):
are and have the ability to watch every single game.
Then I have to worry about trying to go to
a stadium or go to a sports bar or go
to anywhere like that. I just in the end, I
think if you do that through, if you go to
a sports bar just to watch one team over the
course of a season, I would venture to guess through
seventeen eighteen games, you're end up spending more money at
(22:24):
the bar than you would at home just for one
season of direct TV Sunday ticket or even if they
had live betting at that stadium, well that's another story.
I mean, listen, I need a fix. So there's the
new frontier for you. It is all right, so if
you can add, but you can bet from home right now,
and once they start building these brick and mortar sports
books at these stadiums that they've already gotten approval for
(22:46):
and you can do it, I think for like seventeen
or eighteen teams you're allowed to do it. Not out
here in California. Why would you want legalized sports betting
out here in California. Yeah, now none of that. Everything
else is allowed, but no, not that you know. God
for maybe we want a little bit extra revenue in
this state. Uh, you know, we're just gonna have to
continue to pay six dollars a gallon for gas while
while people are afraid to bet an over under on
(23:08):
some NCAA tournament game. What a bunch of candy asses.
Get it together. Let's start gambling, start betting, grow up.
But YouTube TV, those are the prices. It's about four
hundred dollars a year, and I think it's money wells.
I think they're going to ever start in in gang
(23:28):
gambling like how they do in boxing, which actually it's
not kind of end match boxing gambling, but they'll give
you the odds of you know, betting. Yeah, I mean,
and you think they'll ever incorporate that into the NFL
or college Yeah, oh yeah, I mean where you can
actually like you have to play. I think you have
(23:50):
to do it in real time at the game. I
mean obviously, and they still have elements of this, I
think to a degree. But the hard thing is is
like if you're if you're got a lag and and
you place that bet, I mean oh yeah, yeah, you
know what I'm saying, Like you could be way behind
and you're like, oh, I missed out on that one.
And there have been a couple of times where, you know,
somebody work in a counter at a sports book in
(24:13):
Vegas forgets to update the odds and doesn't realize that
there's a baseball game in Taiwan that's going on that's
a recorded and somebody realizes they can get odds if
they know a team's coming back, and the sports book
ended up losing like twenty or forty thousand dollars because
a couple of guys recognized some guy who was asleep
at the wheel behind the counter and went and placed
a bunch of money and there was nothing they could
(24:34):
do about it, so they were out on their ass
like forty grand. I'm sure, I'm sure sports books really
out on its ass for forty grand, and that guy
was probably out in his ass from a job. That's
what I would say. But you know what it sounds like,
by the way, it sounds like live bed Jesus. I mean, Lee,
I think you we've heard this story before. You know,
there's a live event and going on live bed Jesus
(24:54):
shows up doesn't reflect ends up getting even better odds.
I mean that story it's never happened before with Live
bed Jesus hasn'tly no, no, not, of course, of course,
not with Live bet Jesus. He never waits till the
end to make sure that everything's on the up and up.
It's always been on the up and up. I haven't
seen Live bet Jesus in a while. What's up with that?
Thank God? I don't know. I mean I asked these guys.
(25:15):
I mean, they're chasing him away. We've had events, we've
had Who are these guys? Berto, I'm the one that welcome.
I mean, it's a bunch of craps. So Todd can
be a guest. You've got Petros, you've got Albert Brier,
But God forbid, Live bet Jesus can't be a guest
without getting ridiculed. You guys are nice to Todd, You're
(25:36):
nice to Petros, you're nice to Albert Brier. Live bet
Jesus comes on and he's actually the only one making
anybody any money. Why you got so much beef and
drama in your voice? Mat He loses almost every bed,
and on top of that, he lies. I don't have
a problem with Live bet Jesus. I don't know why
(25:57):
you put me into this conversation. Now, always support when
Madonna comes on and liab bet Jesus comes out of
the sky and the light star flicker and then all
that stuff. I've never not supported. And you've been here,
you've seen how real it isn't I don't don't understand
how I became a part of this, Yeah, said Bastandard
(26:17):
Bang bang. You know, I don't know. It's actually better
for the show that he's not a part of it.
But you know, again, more more positive feedback I'm talking
about here, just attacked, ridiculed. Why why are you people
want to be attacked? I thought you're not Live bet Jesus. Okay,
hold on, I just got fine ten dollars for simply
pointing out that Live bet Jesus is being made fun
(26:41):
of on the air. So I got fine ten dollars
for that? How is that? You're being passive? As I understand?
So what does anybody else get fined anymore? Is it
only me? Is it? Does the fine only apply to me?
We've talked, We've talked about the Washington commanders. I don't
talk about the Washington commanders. I mean, we sait, we
sait create a different fine for for me. That that's
(27:03):
I just don't. I don't talk. Okay, somebody did throw
this out, now that you remind me, somebody threw this
out on Twitter. They said that you should be fined
every time you embellish how overweight you are. Oh, I
don't overbell over embellish. And I'm offended. I'm I'm I'm
tremendously offended by whoever would say that. Okay, fight with this.
(27:24):
This is account we don't know. This is a very
real This is very real what I'm dealing with. Okay, No,
it's not. People should not be joking about my weight issues.
You struggle with it. You describe you're wearing this apparatus
that keeps your belly from you saying you're saying it.
Say it's a lie, Say it's a lot. Okay, it's
(27:44):
a lie. You are wearing that, thank you. But here
he pretends like his stomach is a fire hose that
he can't control, and he needs multiple people that may
not have a fire hose that can't be controlled. But
it's not my belly is what it is? Is it
like one of those things that like moving guys wear,
you know when they're when yeah come yeah, yeah yeah, okay,
(28:05):
So it is more posture. It's not like it's more
I was picturing you remember the old days, like no,
they had remember the little pool like walk on a No,
you'd walk on a treadmill and you'd have the little
band around your stuff and you'll like rub and jiggle, yeah,
jiggle the fat off or you. Yeah, I was picturing
(28:26):
you wearing like that or doing that sort of thing. No, No,
it's like a girdle. Yeah. Has ever tried the electrode
ones where like it shocks your abs? Yeah, it's just
elect youll stem. I haven't. There's a lot of stuff
that was designed. Man, I don't have abs to do that.
Like I wouldn't put one of those electrode things on
like a ball of fat, you know what I mean.
(28:48):
Like it's like I could see if I could see
abs and I put that electrode on, it's like okay,
put it on that ab on that ab boom on
that app right, But I don't have that, so you know,
you know, it's become really pops. They call it cold
sculpting and so they'll like freeze away the fat and
so you'll see it's a really it's interesting. What's happening?
(29:09):
Does Oscar de loy have that he's got something going
on with his abs? Now, del I don't know if
that's that, but I know it helps like contour or
shape it. You know, Berta, what do you think dey
just coke cocaine? He's stupid, by the way, let's just coke.
(29:31):
What are what would be going on with his abs?
That would be good? Like you're making it seem like
there's something else going on. I'm telling you, look at him.
They don't move. He went from a guy who was
out of shape and last time you saw him wear
anything other than a boxing gloves he was dressed up
as a woman and he in like laundreta and then
then he had to be built good. Then do you
(29:53):
think he's got him drawn off? I don't know. If
you look at him saying there's just they're weird, there's
something going on there. It's like that guy who's it
was the Loca, Yeah, thank you dal Lajoia. That was
Oscar joining us. But like liver King, that guy didn't
he have fake abs? Like there's something going on the
liver King. Those aren't fake abs. No, I'm telling you
(30:14):
look up liver King Oscar de la Hoya in your
search history. Maybe Todd can do it since apparently he's
interning because Lee won't let him leave the building. But
if you look up liver King Oscar de Lajoia, they've
got fake abs. I'm telling you, Todd your thoughts on
this situation. Yeah, so um, I'm I'm back here. In
the other stood Natzi Lee and it was Underson proven fake.
(30:37):
Everything about him was proven fake, and he did an
apology video about how fake it is. Back to Lee, Oh,
they're not fake. He just he said he wasn't taking
pds and and he actually had a whole stack of
p abs. Yeah, that's that's real abs. It's real muscle.
But I mean, if anyone's seen him work out, he's strong.
(31:00):
But he's also on the gas. Yeah, love be some gas.
And by the way, it's not even just like test
like he's on all of it. He's sort of like
listing off. I was like, my god, he play and everything.
I was like, okay, he's a he's a right, like
he knows exactly what he's doing. If you're gonna do it?
Do what How the liver kiings doing it? Because he
was you know, it's like his spice car. How do
(31:21):
they call him the liver king because he would eat
liver and he ate this diet that he was proclaiming
was why he was so jacked. And then they come
to find out he's actually on a stack of test
and H G H and everything else. Yeah, everything you
under the sun that you can think. It doesn't by
the way, it doesn't take away from the fact that
he's jacked. Oh yeah, he's And listen, he does work hard.
(31:44):
It's not like he's not he's just taking it and
laying around on his ass. He's he does work hard.
It's just it's not liver the two and all that. Okay,
we're all oscar abs are interesting. There's something I apologize Jonas.
Maybe he's got literally like a you know, the Halloween
like abs they put telling you there's something going on there. Man,
(32:05):
I think you're right. Maybe they put that in there
to look like there's something going on with Delia's abs
did not look like that. Well, last time I saw him,
when he was wearing lingerie, he did not have those abs.
I can confirm that dal laya but very interesting guy.
How did he lose abs when he was active? Yeah,
that's true. When he was a world box seting, he
(32:25):
didn't have abs like that. Yeah, when he was the
world champion, no abs like that. Okay, so all right,
it is two pros, and we spent the whole half
of the segment hating on two people's abs. I mean,
some people at least have the problem and the issue
of having their abs made fun of. I mean people
like me, we don't have that issue. We don't We
don't have people making fun of our ads because you know,
(32:47):
there are no abs. You know, it's just it's just
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that happen, and there's some bad and then there's some
downright ugly things. It's time for good bad and all right,
lead the lab who's got what this week? Well, as
we do each and every Wednesday, we start with the
good and La Bar has the privilege of giving us. Yeah,
let's go, Bar, what's up? You know what? You know?
What's good this week? Guys? Spring football? Spring football is
(35:23):
good this week. I'm actually heading the state college tomorrow. Um,
getting out of there, getting out of here. Yeah, but
but you know, high school springball has started. Um, it's
so funny. Seniors always say the next team isn't going
to be that good because they don't have anybody. The
young guys are like, yeah, we're gonna try to do
(35:44):
what we can do. And it's just it's fun seeing
guys get out there for the first time and then
you know they're they're now the going to be the
uprising seniors or the uprising juniors that that are, you know,
showing that leadership. So it's good. It's good to be
back in spring ball. Guys, you can't have good without
(36:06):
the bad. Jonas what was bad this week, I'm gonna
go with the stretch of luck that the Minnesota Timberwolves
have had over the past three four days, and all
of that luck was created by themselves, whether it's Rudy
Gobert punching a teammate and getting suspended for the play
in game, whether it was another guy walking off the
court and then punch in and breaking his hand on
a wall, and then the conclusion of last night's game
(36:29):
against the La Lakers, where Minnesota was in control, played
their hearts out and then they got late into that game.
Even after a couple of inbound passes that went awrived
from the Lakers and Lebron James and Mike Conley getting
fouled and hitting three free throws to end regulation, they
go into overtime. Not a good stretcher of luck for
the Minnesota Timberwolves. Again, all created by themselves. A bad
(36:52):
run for the Tea Wolves. I'm gonna go with that
for my bad for the week. And Phillis it can't
be that ugly when Brady has the ugly this week. Brady,
what was ugly? Yeah? Oh, thanks man, that's really nice
of you to say what was ugly? There were some
ugly moments at the Masters this past weekend for anyone
who stalled Tiger Woods, who had to withdraw after making
the cut moving around that leg, that knee. I'm just
(37:15):
not sure how many more seventy two whole rounds he'll
be able to make it in. He's obviously one of
the greatest of all time, maybe in his prime, the
greatest for that period of time, and without good you know,
he was playing, but unfortunately with all the different injuries
things he's had. It's just it's it's bad. You feel
bad for him. But what was ugly was brooks Kepka
(37:38):
on Sunday after having a four stroke lead. They obviously
had to play at the end of the third round
as well as the final round and beginning up to
minus thirteen, just struggling having to try to beat John Ram,
who ended up winning by four strokes when it was
all said and done. And obviously the big joke is this.
You know, the Live Golf Tour only plays what fifty
(38:02):
two fifty four holes whatever it is, and uh, you know,
he had to play another eighteen, which is a custom
on the PGA Tour, not so much on the Live Tour,
and he ended up struggling mightily. So it's kind of
turned ugly. It was a long round. Obviously he didn't
play the way he needed to, and so there's a
lot of people saying it's it's kind of ugly right
now with the whole Live Tour and kept us play
(38:24):
by the way, you know, Tiger Woods. They're trying to
claim that it was the Planner fashitis that was the
reason he stopped playing. Man, I mean it's a lot.
They all, they're all combined. I mean that leg is
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