June 14, 2023 • 37 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, there’s drama in Buffalo with the absence of Stefon Diggs. Bears DT Justin Jones tries to stir the pot early with Packers fans. Plus, a really dumb idea in the world of baseball on “In Case You Missed It.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on
this Wednesday edition, we have got drama in Buffalo. What
the hell's going on with Stefon Diggs and Josh Allen
and Sean McDermott. We will investigate it all. Plus, we're
going to talk about the Vegas Golden Knights. Is the
party still raging in Las Vegas after a Stanley Cup
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championship six years in to the start of the organization.
Talk about a terrible idea in the world of sports.
That's what A's fans did last night. We'll discuss that
as well too. We're also going to have another conversation
about some trash talk in the NFL, maybe a mistake
made by one member of the Chicago Bears. We've also
got an open quarterback competition apparently in the AFC. We've
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got our Midweek Awards and the old p Petros Papadega
stops by. It's all yours coming up next here, Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe on a Wednesday, Fox Sports.
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Speaker 2 (01:39):
Golden Knights, the Golden Nights.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Now, why I'm hearing some reports the great Markliss, the
great Mark Madden, who works in Pittsburgh, longtime Pittsburgh radio
host and legend. I know are probably very familiar with
your career. I know he does a lot with North
Hills High.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
He He was tweeting from Las Vegas saying, in comparison
to some of the parades and after parties in Pittsburgh,
not even close in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
So again, in Vegas a lot to do.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
There was probably already something going on, and they just
joined into the party. They joined into the fund.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Just blended together. I mean, wouldn't you.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I know that Ackey fan.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah so so.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
But congratulations to the Las Vegas Golden Knights getting it
done there.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
They use different sticks where that guy comes from.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
If we if we have any reports of anybody grabbing
scuba gear and jumping in the Blagio Fountain because they
were so excited about their hockey team winning a Stanley Cup,
well we will give you those reports and details later on.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I wonder if they'll get a break.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Probably not, huh oh, because they jumped in and Stanley.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah. Well, I feel like.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
There's just please don't arrest me, officer.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Hopefully no issues like what happened post Denver Nuggets winning
the NBA Championship as.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Oh yeah, that's a little too much.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, it's just that that's way over the.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Top, very unfortunate. Yeah, hope the families people impacted by
and the families impacted by are okay, will be okay.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So Iowa Sam yelling in my ear that it was
a drug deal gone wrong. Oh so keep it here,
come for the sports stick around for the drug transactions
gone wrong, according to Iowa.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Saying, is we still considered drugs? I mean somebody might
have been like, this's a stativa.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Hold on a second, I say, Sam, how do you
know it was fentanyl? I saw.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
I was watching the news last night and they were
talking about the shooting. Nobody died, thankfully, but it was
a fentanyl drug trade, a big one in the middle
of this melee of all these people celebrating it was
either the most genius thing or the most brainless thing.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
You were going to do it, do it when everybody's
looking the other way. I guess it's ok to turn off.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
If you're going to do it, make sure you're not
going to beef with a strap.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Right, Maybe just like exchange the stuff and then move on.
You just money and go your separate ways.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I just I love that Iowa.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Sam is an expert in two categories, Big Ten football
and narcotics transactions.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Gone wrong After champions I'm a news junkie. Okay, so
I saw it last night.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Great job.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
He's at speed with games. He's the farming edition of
Pablo Escobar. Is any any other concerns.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It was a fitting All deal that went wrong.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
They even showed it. The drugs unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
They said there was one pill too many.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So with that being said, With that being said, we
now transition over to some NFL talk because Arrington, we
got some drama. We got some drama with one of
the best teams in drama. Oh yeah, month's worth of
drama in Buffalo. So here's the situation. I will set
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it up. We've got some comments, and then we have
a reply from an interested party in this whole situation
going on in Buffalo. So the Bill's mini camp started
on Tuesday. Sean McDermott, the head coach, was asked about
the absence of Stefan Diggs, who was not there. He
said he was quote very concerned and apparently at that
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time the thought was Stefan Diggs did not report to
the facility. Now, Diggs's agent said publicly and reported to
Adam Schefter that Stefan Diggs not only was he there
early on Tuesday, but he was also there on Monday.
The Bills then clarified that Diggs was there but left
before practice started. So the whole thing's a mess, right,
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off the jump, and then Josh Allen, the Bill's quarterback,
spoke with the media yesterday and gave his thoughts about
the weirdness surrounding Stefan Diggs and the playoff game fiasco
last year and him not talking to the media afterwards
and yelling at Josh Allen after the game and then
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the leaving from Bill's mini camp and all the other
stuff that's come along with it. Here was Here was
the Bill's quarterback Josh Allen yesterday.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
Internally, we're working on some things not football related. But
you know, Steph, he's my guy's I love him. He's
a brother of mine who was He was in here
today and was out there on the field with us,
and that's that's not the face. But I've got his
back no matter what. I've got no doubt that we
will figure out what's going on. And freaking love him.
I can't stress that enough. You know, there's things that
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I could I could do better, and you know, to
help out with this process and try to get him
back here and you know, be the buffal abilities and
what he's meant to be. He's an all the way
in dude. I mean, once he's renting all the way in.
He's gonna be all the way in, and he's a
fiery competitor and at the end of the day, he wants
to win. You know, this team wants to win. And
anyone said, but he's a buffalo bill and you know
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what are you working out? I think that there are
some some things that could have gone better last year
and didn't. I think we're just as a as an
organization maybe not communicating the right way with with everything.
So again, just trying to talk and listen at the
same time and hear him out and like I said,
just try to move this forward is as quickly and
as respectfully as you know, as possible.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
So Josh Allen from a shooting ringlation park apparently with
all the background noise.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
That was probably sound like the gym like somebody was
doing like clanging a Olympic Olympic lifts or something to
that effect.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
What you do when you're throwing around that iron.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Or could have been a drugs machine. Hey listen, My
translation of that is one someone really pissed Stephan diggs
Off on that. I want to say, coaching stat well.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Do you want to hear his because Stephan yes, to
respond right.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
So he hosted a message on Instagram last night that
said the following quote, I just be letting people cap
if them lies help you sleep better?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Tell him, big Dog.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
And then he went on to say something else that
I believe was a meme taken from somebody. But apparently
somebody's lying and he's just letting it happen. And I
don't know if Big Dog is referring to Sean McDermott
or Brandon.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Bean or read it one more time.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
He said, I just be letting people cap if them
lies help you sleep better? Tell him Big Dog. That
was from Stefan Diggs. After all the drama yesterday in Buffalo,
something's going on.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
To somebody's not talking the way that that Stepan Diggs wants,
you know, the way he wants them to be talking.
And you know, I've met Stephan before now. I was
a Maryland while he was at Maryland and even spoke
to the team one time while he was there. Step
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On is not the type of personality that wants drama.
And I know that might not be what like maybe
the public persona of it looks like because of the
way we saw him leave the playoff game last year.
Or you know what's going on now, But he's really
not a drama dude.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Jonas like exactly what Alan said.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
He's an all in type of guy, like he he
does things with his heart. And so all the way
in means all the way in, which means that when
you're an all the way in guy, you expect everybody
else around you to be all the way in. So
somebody isn't sane, they're not talking right, somebody isn't saying
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something that isn't right. And then you know, the way
it sounds, it's not just football like. It sounds like
this is turned personal and and the way Alan responded,
it's almost like Alan feels as though he could be
a facility, a mediator of sorts, and he's not doing
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as great of a job. And I wonder if that
if that pinpoints McDermott or the OC. I really do
I want it's got to be one of the two,
or it's got to be both. But the way it sounds,
there is a there has been a souring of a
relationship and a guy like I will say, there's a
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guy like like Stefan Diggs. You can you can do
a lot of things to earn a guy like him
his trust, and it takes time to earn that buy
in and that trust from him because he does things
with his heart. But it only takes a moment to
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ruin the trust. It takes time to build it, but
it only takes a moment to ruin it. And I
don't know if if steph Ufon Diggs is one of
those I don't know him well enough to know if
he's one of those guys that can bounce back, if
that's indeed the case. Now I'm speculating, but just reading
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between the lines of what Alan said, what what what
Diggs is post said, somebody said something to him that
they shouldn't have said, and maybe it was a build up,
Maybe it was something that was ongoing and it just
kind of came to a head.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Uh in the game.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
He didn't get very many targets in that loss that
they had in the playoffs, if my recollection serves me correctly,
who did they play in the first round of the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
It was Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Well, they played Miami the first round and that was
a beach closer game, the backup quarterback, and then they
they played Cincinnati and just got waxed by the at home.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And what was his numbers in that game? Do we remember?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I just I remember last year he started off hot
like he was. He was on page through the first
nine games to have the best season of his career,
and then he really tapered off late in the year and.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
He got he got four balls thrown his way for
thirty five yards.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I mean, listen, that's five more than me. So you know,
he can he can bitch all he wants, but at
least he got some balls thrown his way.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I didn't get any.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Everybody doesn't deserve to be able to get balls thrown
their way and then them you know what I mean.
So point, I'll let you and Stephan worry about that
one in that regard, but I will say, you do
not play professional football. So that is quite the difference
in terms of comparison, if we're going to go that
deep into it.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
But that's fair, just a more eloquent way to say
that you never played the game.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
You never played at that level. Hey, but here's the thing,
you don't. You don't have to look very far at
that position to know that the greats want the ball. Yeah,
they want the ball, and they will get irate if
they're not getting the ball. You're in the biggest game
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of the year, of the season against an emerging power
in the Cincinnati Bengals, who happen to have a guy
that is considered to be one of the most elite
receivers in the game in Jamar Chase. This was clearly
and for what it's worth, they have a few other
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guys on on Cincinnati that could be considered to be
elite as well. You're talking about a guy who's ultra competitive,
that wants to show up, that wants to be able
to have those moments. If you see the way he
works out and he trains in the offseason, his workout
regiment is sick. It's pretty crazy. So you put in
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all that time and you put in all that work,
you know what you want to do. You know what
you want to be Jonas. You want to be recognized
for for how well you play the game. You want
to be you want to be in those big moments.
That's how you build a career, that's how you moved
towards having a Hall of Fame career. When you're on
stages as big as that, you want to have the
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ball in your hands and he did not thirty five
yards for fork receptions.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, that's no good.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
And to your point on something must have been said,
and you know he takes it to heart. He's probably
a pretty sensitive guy and he you know, that's still
bothering him all these months later. Whenever it happened last year.
It kind of has a Rogers vibe to it, right Rodgers,
to where he never was able to get over the
miscommunication and whatever was you know, talked about or not
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talked about when it came to drafting Jordan Love and
then just sort of the distance that was between him
and Brian Gudekunst and everybody else in Green Bay in
the front office. He was never able to get over that,
and that's stuck with him for a while because, look,
it would be easy to say, well, Stefan Diggs just
wants to get paid.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
He wants money. He just signed an extension last off season.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, that's not it Like there's this person.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
This is personally, this sounds personal And again this is speculation,
but it's not hard to speculate when emotions are involved,
and when they're running high, it's it's more or less
what is it like pinpointing who it is.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yea.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
But but if Josh Allen feels as though he could
do more to help the situation, it sounds like this
is something that has been escalating. Maybe this is something
that has taken place, the exchanges in the meeting room,
different things like that, how they're communicating on the field.
When you end up having numbers that low, maybe Josh
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Allen's way of saying he could have helped it is
he could have targeted Stefan Diggs more, he could have
got him more involved in the offense. But you know,
the the high was I think five in that game.
You know somebody got five catches in that game. Like
that's trash and a and a big game like that,
a playoff game you're talking about. God should have like
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to double digits of receptions and they should be approaching
the century mark, if not more.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
That's what you want to see.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Out of your franchise player at the receiver position, especially
after we had such a long drawn out conversation about
the devaluing of the running backs position. Well, you know
what position has gone up in value, tremendous value.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
The receiver's position.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
You know who has been very very much maligned on
how they finish out in the playoffs outside of just
their slugouts that they know the game they had against
Sincy the year before, you sit there was it since
here was a Kansas City, Kansas City. You look at
the potential of where this Buffalo Bills team has been going,
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and yet they still continue to do what the Buffalo
Bills have always done, come up short. Even if they've
made it to the super Bowl four times in a row,
they come up short. Talking about a franchise that gets
a lot of static and because they can't make it
out of the big game in the playoffs. And to me,
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to me, this just seems like they weren't calling his number,
Jonas And how do you not call that man's number.
He's the best player on your team outside of Island.
How are you not calling his number? And so if
you're not calling his number, I can guarantee you that
that is that is probably there's some type of retaliation,
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some type of hard feeling that's connected to the person
that's calling the plays.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, I just like the way this whole offseason is
gone and the end of last year, Like if I
was a Bills fan, I'd have heartburn.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I'm so glad that you said that, because stress can
really live in your belly.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Man. And I'll tell you what. For me.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Every once in a while, I get heartburn and I
get acid reflux. I had a drink yesterday. It had
muddled lapeno peppers, and I'll tell you, Oh, I loved it.
It was mango pure. What is that called? What I
just say, muddled? Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I had muddled halapenos in it. And let me tell
you something.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
If I didn't have my prolosack OTC working on my belly,
it would not have ended well, not for me, not
for nobody around me in the room.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Because I would have been feeling real bad.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
So if you've gotten tired of chewing chalky and acids
all day, make sure you try out prilo sack OTC
with just one pill each morning experience a full twenty
four hours of zero heartburn. Yes, people, it is possible
while taking prolosack otc, so make sure you use as directed.
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And it's for fourteen days to treat frequent heartburn. It's
not for immediate relief, so make sure you go get
you a box to day and get and get that
fourteen days in because let me tell you something, whether
you're step On Diggs and you're not getting the calls
that you want to make, the catches and the plays
that you want to make, or your LeVar Arrington that
enjoyed an amazing day yesterday and finished off with having
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a mango pure ray halopena haalepeno pepper drink cocktail to
wash down what an amazing day was. Make sure you
get some prowlosak otc man. Yeah, man, there you go.
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That's hot.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
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Sports Radio var Arrington Jonas to this bisy.
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio.
He's LeVar Arrington. I'm Jonas Knox coming up in about
twenty minutes from now from the tiraq dot com studios.
One of the dumbest ideas in all of sports. It
played out over the last twenty four hours. We'll get
into that for you again twenty minutes from now here
from the ti Raq dot Com studios. So LaVar Arrington,
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it's never too early to try and stir the pot
in a great rivalry in the world of football. Okay,
maybe one of the great rivalries not only in the
world of football, but the world of sports is.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Aaron Rodgers and Guna Koomte.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
That is true, and it does tie into that a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Okay, But you've also got the Packers and the Bears,
one of the great rivalries now historically very very one
sided as of late, a lot of dominance on the
side of the Green Bay Packers, well apparently, and I'm
not trying to The last thing I want to.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Do is piss anybody off in Wisconsin. That's what I
want to know.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
What I want to do here, because look, we are
on ninety seven to three, the game. We're on AM
ten seventy, Fox Sports ten seventy in Madison. You know
that we love our people there. You got the great
Steve Zabin Sabe coming up, you got Mike Heller, one
of the one of the nicest people in all of
sports radio. But somebody had some things to say. And
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that's somebody was none other than Bears defensive lineman Justin Jones,
who decided to have some comments about the departing Aaron Rodgers,
how a matchup last year at lambeau Field went, and
what he's looking forward to doing to Green Bay this
coming year.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
How different is it kind of being out that Aaron
Rodgers somewhere else.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
I wish he played one more year with the Green
Bay Honestly, we went up there and we played We
played a pretty good game, you know, but they got
away from us at the end, obviously, and they won.
But their fans are really so Yeah, I wanted to
go back up there, and I want to play them,
and I want to beat them, and I wanted him
to be there so you can see it. But the
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fact that he's going now, you know, I mean, it's cool.
I guess it's better for him than to be here,
you know. But but yeah, man, I'm I'm ready to
take it over.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I mean, it's a good time to be a Bears fan.
I'm not even gonna lie to you. So this is
a follow up question. I never thought of asking which
ways are they?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Man?
Speaker 8 (22:30):
I mean, man, like, just just the way that they're
just freaking obnoxious, just yelling and all that other stuff
about things that don't even matter, Like we're not even
we're not even running to play, and you guys are
talking about oh yeah, like what do you even talking?
Yeah even started yet? Like what do we been talking
about here? Like, you know, y'all half of them don't
even know football. It's so weird to me. But I
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was just ready to go back out there and play.
And I want to go out there, and I want
to beat the hell out of them, you know, on
their field, and I want to hear it. I want
to hear the booze in you know that. That's what
I look forward to.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Justin Jones letting it be known not a big fan
of the Packer fan base.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
The game he's referencing, by the way, that was week
two of last year, and to his point, the Bears
were definitely competitive. They had a seven they had a
seven to three lead at the end of the first,
seven to three lead at the end of the first quarter,
and proceeded to get outscored twenty four to three the
rest of the game, so they lost by seventeen and
ed he felt the need to let everybody know that
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this is this is how things are going to go.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
They were three and fourteen last year.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Like, hey, my guy, listen to what I'm telling you.
Fourteen times another team was better than you. You want
to know what's obnoxious when you win three games and
you talking about another team's fan base that has been
pretty dang good over the last few years and just
(23:53):
missed the playoffs a BYuT one game in a down year.
To say that it's a good time to be a
Bears fan after a three win season, I would just
suggest that you get into the season and maybe start
three and oh before you start talking about the fact
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that it's great time to be a Bears fan. I
always am reminded of the late great John Madden when
I said, it's a great time to be a Washington
R fan. And I tell you what he asked me,
do you think that you guys have a chance of
making the playoffs or even the super Bowl? And I said, hell, yes,
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Coach Matten, of course we have a chance. Look at
the team that we have, look at the talent that
we have. That man said, I would bungee jump out
of the blimp, the good Year blimp, over top of
the fifty yard line for the halftime show if you
guys made it to the super Bowl, And well, you
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were with my dream. And so to me, like, I
like the fact that you have the fire in your belly,
you know Jonas I, I love the fact that he
feels a certain type of of of pride and a
certain type of of passion towards the Bears getting back
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to winning football.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
But let's not get carried away.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
You know, even if they are going to be that good,
it's better to be a killer that an assassin that
moves and and vileance and silence, not in not in noise.
And let me tell you something. To call out a
fan base, the call out the fan base is kind
of like, all right, they're obnoxious, they're they're they're idy,
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they're there, they don't know football, they knew enough to
beat y'all. They their team knew enough about you to
beat y'all. And and and to me, when I look
at a statement like this, are you directing your towards
the fans because you ain't good enough to do it
against the players? Like say the players are idy, Say
(26:07):
they're oubnoxious. Now we got something, But them fans can't
do nothing to you, and you're not doing nothing to
them fans.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
It's all, so what are you really calling them out for?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Like if somebody told you, like, there's one thing to
have a track record, but if somebody told you, hey,
we've got thirty years of a track record, like that
feels like some evidence and some information I'd like to
get my hands on so that I could know what
the future may hold, because if the track record is
there for thirty years, what's to say it's not going
to be there moving forward? And the reason I say
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this is because there's good news and bad news for
Justin Jones and the Bears.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
When it comes to the.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Packers, well, Aaron Rodgers is gone. So that's the good news.
The bad news is, for the last thirty years you've
been getting dominated at the position of quarterback, which has
really been the problem there. And they've had some good years.
They went to a Super Bowl, they made some playoff
runs under Lovey Smith, they were in an NFC Championship.
(27:01):
They lost to the Packers coincidentally enough, but they probably
thought when Brett Farv left, okay, at least got.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
We got got to him.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, we got a chance.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
And then it got even worse because Rogers was better
against the Bears than Brett Farv was.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
So the idea that this is.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Now the time, I just I would encourage Bears fans
to just look.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I know there's a lot of excitement. I know people
are fired up.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
They think Justin Fields is the guy, and they've added, yes, definitely.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Maybe he is.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
But I gotta I gotta wait a little bit, you know,
Like I just I gotta wait to see what's in
the box underneath the Christmas tree before I celebrate, Like
I just want a maserati, you know, I just I
got to see what's there first. And apparently there's no
waiting around. They feel like now that Rogers is gone.
Success is right around the corner. And they probably felt
the same way when Brett Farv left and it definitely
(27:54):
was not so. Well.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Leaves Dalvin Cooks, leaves Cook leaves the men, so the
Vikings vulnerable. The Vikings will not be a better team
without Without Dalvin Cooking on that team, the Detroit Lions
could be considered to be no different than the three
win Chicago Bears. If you ask me, geez, everybody's carried
(28:18):
away about the Detroit Lions. And you may be warranted,
and you may be, you know, in the right to
think so and to believe so. But they were not
a playoff team last year, just like the Beers weren't
a playoff team last year, just like the Green Bay
Packers weren't a playoff team last year. The NFC North
(28:39):
is wide open because the Lions still have to prove
they're a dominant team. They haven't proven that yet, they
proved that they could become a competitive team.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
They're not even a playoff team last year.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Campbell has proven to us that he's not just talk.
But the culture has changed. There's been a culture shift
that's wonderful, But you still got to prove it and
accomplish at a higher success level of success rate. Really,
the only quarterback in the division right now today is
(29:15):
Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
It's Kirk Cousins. I don't know about Justin Fields. I don't.
I don't know about Jordan Love right, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I mean Jared Goff. We could say Jared Goff, but
I'm not. I mean, I'm not going to say Jay.
I'm not taking Jared Goff over over Kirk Cousins. I'm
not taking him over. I'm not taking golf over Kirk Cousins.
So in the end, you got a guy that that
was not even perceived to be the guy in Los Angeles.
He shipped off for the guy that they trade for
(29:47):
and go win the Super Bowl the year after. Now
he fell off of a cliff after that, after the
lady fell off of the stage.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
But in Detroit the team has improved.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
But to say by default that this is a division
that is wide open, I just don't feel as though
it doesn't hit me the same way as if that
would have been Tommy Harris, or if that would have
been Brian Urlacker or Ralph Brown or Mike Browns or
Lance Briggs or Peanuts saying that you know, these these
(30:19):
fans are obnoxious and they're se fans, and and we're
going to run this thing back. It doesn't hit the same,
It does not hit the same. In fact, if I'm
being honest, it kind of diminishes, and it kind of
the values to me, the value of Justin Jones as
(30:39):
a player, because you're talking about a team that's wounded.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Like the.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Sense to me is when you're a true competitor, you
don't kick a man while he's down. You stand up
and you look at that man eye to eye, and
y'all go toe to toe and you talk your noise
right then, and then the best you can do is
imply your and like, impose your will on that man
toe to toe. Not oh, Aaron Rodgers is gone, Like, oh,
(31:09):
I wish he was still here. Why so you could
lose again. Y'all lost to them in a down year.
Y'all didn't lose to him, not just not just in
his MVP years. Y'all lost to him last year in
the down year. Y'all part of the reason why they
had an opportunity to make the playoffs at the end
of the season, Like be clear on that. So to me,
I feel like the trash talk right now, you're doing
(31:32):
it because it's advantageous to try to talk trash, and
it's by subtraction, it's not by addition. You're not looking
out of Aaron Rodgers team that's loaded. You're not looking
at a Minnesota Vikings team that's loaded. You're not looking
at a Detroit team that has established that they're the
team in the North. And you, for damn sure having
established that you're the team in the North as the Bears.
(31:55):
So you're doing this by subtraction. Justin I'll just give
you a bit of advice.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
My young g I mean, maybe he's happy to be playing.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Just play ball. He'll bear and play ball.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Coming up next here on Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe, though, we're going to talk about one of
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Speaker 10 (32:58):
Eddie Garcia, look at those arms, the man with the
golden pipes, Garcia? What the big boat off the ropes
drops a leg?
Speaker 8 (33:17):
One?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Two three? How bad at Eddie?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Eddie your far.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah, brother, how bad at Eddie? A real American. I'm
gonna tear my shirt off right now.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Nobody's more American than Eddie. Born in Hawaii from Alabama.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yeah, not front of it, from Alaxa. Well we live
in Alabama, brother, My mom was from there. Okay, well listen,
same thing.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
You know.
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Good morning, everybody, Good morning, Jonas, Good morning, LeVar, Good morning.
On the same day, the Nevada State damn it, you
threw me off there, LeVar. On the same day, the
Nevada Senate voted to approve good, thank you very much.
On the same day, this Nevada Senate voted to approve
three hundred and eighty million dollars in public money for
a Las Vegas ballpark for the Athletics. Fans in Oakland
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held their long planned reverse boycott, intended to fill the
stadium and prove their worths to both the owner, John
Fisher and Major League Baseball, more than triple the average attendance.
So what was eight thousand turned into twenty eight thousand
fans rocking green T shirts that said sell and all
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chanting this.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Too. What a what a dumb idea?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Imagine finding out your wife's having an affair on you,
and just to show her you buy her a new
car on the way out of the divorce.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, I'll show you. I'll kill you with kindness. Sweet
thanks for the parting gifts.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
So they just made the guy a bunch of money
in one night as he embarks on a trip to
Vegas to go bring in a Major League Baseball team. There,
what a dumb idea. Shouldn't have shown up, should have
sat on your asses at home and let that guy
collect pennies on his way out the door when he
runs to go build some sort of a ballpark in
between the Statue of Liberty at New York, New York
(36:10):
and a lion at MGM.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Grant put a dumb idea. It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Tell us how you really feel.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Just like, why would you do it? On the way out?
Let's give him a bunch of money on the way out.
Let's go pay for fifteen dollars beers just to show him.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Like, what are you doing, dude?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Like he's leaving, it's over, Like why why? Why give
him a parting gift? Doesn't make any sense to me,
you know what I mean? So I'm talking about a
right It'd be like if Dan Snyder on his way out.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
The door, trying to make it personal. I don't want it.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
No, Like Dan, he tries to tries to run out
the door, and then they're like, we'll show up and
show him we're real fans.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
The hell are we talking about here?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (36:48):
Noekay, one of the lead programmers and designers of the
All time Great sports video games NBA JIM, revealed that
he put a glitch glitch in the game that would
prevent the Bulls from winning any last second shots against
the Pistons.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Brilliant.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
That's brilliant. Good for him.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
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this Wednesday edition, we have got drama in Buffalo. What
the hell's going on with Stefon Diggs and Josh Allen
and Sean McDermott. We will investigate it all. Plus, we're
going to talk about the Vegas Golden Knights. Is the
party still raging in Las Vegas after a Stanley Cup
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championship six years in to the start of the organization.
Talk about a terrible idea in the world of sports.
That's what A's fans did last night. We'll discuss that
as well too. We're also going to have another conversation
about some trash talk in the NFL, maybe a mistake
made by one member of the Chicago Bears. We've also
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Speaker 2 (01:39):
Golden Knights, the Golden Nights.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Now, why I'm hearing some reports the great Markliss, the
great Mark Madden, who works in Pittsburgh, longtime Pittsburgh radio
host and legend. I know are probably very familiar with
your career. I know he does a lot with North
Hills High.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
He He was tweeting from Las Vegas saying, in comparison
to some of the parades and after parties in Pittsburgh,
not even close in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
So again, in Vegas a lot to do.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
There was probably already something going on, and they just
joined into the party. They joined into the fund.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Just blended together. I mean, wouldn't you.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I know that Ackey fan.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah so so.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
But congratulations to the Las Vegas Golden Knights getting it
done there.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
They use different sticks where that guy comes from.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
If we if we have any reports of anybody grabbing
scuba gear and jumping in the Blagio Fountain because they
were so excited about their hockey team winning a Stanley Cup,
well we will give you those reports and details later on.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I wonder if they'll get a break.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Probably not, huh oh, because they jumped in and Stanley.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah. Well, I feel like.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
There's just please don't arrest me, officer.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Hopefully no issues like what happened post Denver Nuggets winning
the NBA Championship as.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Oh yeah, that's a little too much.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, it's just that that's way over the.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Top, very unfortunate. Yeah, hope the families people impacted by
and the families impacted by are okay, will be okay.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So Iowa Sam yelling in my ear that it was
a drug deal gone wrong. Oh so keep it here,
come for the sports stick around for the drug transactions
gone wrong, according to Iowa.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Saying, is we still considered drugs? I mean somebody might
have been like, this's a stativa.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Hold on a second, I say, Sam, how do you
know it was fentanyl? I saw.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
I was watching the news last night and they were
talking about the shooting. Nobody died, thankfully, but it was
a fentanyl drug trade, a big one in the middle
of this melee of all these people celebrating it was
either the most genius thing or the most brainless thing.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
You were going to do it, do it when everybody's
looking the other way. I guess it's ok to turn off.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
If you're going to do it, make sure you're not
going to beef with a strap.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Right, Maybe just like exchange the stuff and then move on.
You just money and go your separate ways.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I just I love that Iowa.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Sam is an expert in two categories, Big Ten football
and narcotics transactions.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Gone wrong After champions I'm a news junkie. Okay, so
I saw it last night.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Great job.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
He's at speed with games. He's the farming edition of
Pablo Escobar. Is any any other concerns.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It was a fitting All deal that went wrong.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
They even showed it. The drugs unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
They said there was one pill too many.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So with that being said, With that being said, we
now transition over to some NFL talk because Arrington, we
got some drama. We got some drama with one of
the best teams in drama. Oh yeah, month's worth of
drama in Buffalo. So here's the situation. I will set
(05:14):
it up. We've got some comments, and then we have
a reply from an interested party in this whole situation
going on in Buffalo. So the Bill's mini camp started
on Tuesday. Sean McDermott, the head coach, was asked about
the absence of Stefan Diggs, who was not there. He
said he was quote very concerned and apparently at that
(05:36):
time the thought was Stefan Diggs did not report to
the facility. Now, Diggs's agent said publicly and reported to
Adam Schefter that Stefan Diggs not only was he there
early on Tuesday, but he was also there on Monday.
The Bills then clarified that Diggs was there but left
before practice started. So the whole thing's a mess, right,
(05:57):
off the jump, and then Josh Allen, the Bill's quarterback,
spoke with the media yesterday and gave his thoughts about
the weirdness surrounding Stefan Diggs and the playoff game fiasco
last year and him not talking to the media afterwards
and yelling at Josh Allen after the game and then
(06:17):
the leaving from Bill's mini camp and all the other
stuff that's come along with it. Here was Here was
the Bill's quarterback Josh Allen yesterday.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
Internally, we're working on some things not football related. But
you know, Steph, he's my guy's I love him. He's
a brother of mine who was He was in here
today and was out there on the field with us,
and that's that's not the face. But I've got his
back no matter what. I've got no doubt that we
will figure out what's going on. And freaking love him.
I can't stress that enough. You know, there's things that
(06:48):
I could I could do better, and you know, to
help out with this process and try to get him
back here and you know, be the buffal abilities and
what he's meant to be. He's an all the way
in dude. I mean, once he's renting all the way in.
He's gonna be all the way in, and he's a
fiery competitor and at the end of the day, he wants
to win. You know, this team wants to win. And
anyone said, but he's a buffalo bill and you know
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what are you working out? I think that there are
some some things that could have gone better last year
and didn't. I think we're just as a as an
organization maybe not communicating the right way with with everything.
So again, just trying to talk and listen at the
same time and hear him out and like I said,
just try to move this forward is as quickly and
as respectfully as you know, as possible.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
So Josh Allen from a shooting ringlation park apparently with
all the background noise.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
That was probably sound like the gym like somebody was
doing like clanging a Olympic Olympic lifts or something to
that effect.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
What you do when you're throwing around that iron.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Or could have been a drugs machine. Hey listen, My
translation of that is one someone really pissed Stephan diggs
Off on that. I want to say, coaching stat well.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Do you want to hear his because Stephan yes, to
respond right.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
So he hosted a message on Instagram last night that
said the following quote, I just be letting people cap
if them lies help you sleep better?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Tell him, big Dog.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
And then he went on to say something else that
I believe was a meme taken from somebody. But apparently
somebody's lying and he's just letting it happen. And I
don't know if Big Dog is referring to Sean McDermott
or Brandon.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Bean or read it one more time.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
He said, I just be letting people cap if them
lies help you sleep better? Tell him Big Dog. That
was from Stefan Diggs. After all the drama yesterday in Buffalo,
something's going on.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
To somebody's not talking the way that that Stepan Diggs wants,
you know, the way he wants them to be talking.
And you know, I've met Stephan before now. I was
a Maryland while he was at Maryland and even spoke
to the team one time while he was there. Step
(09:00):
On is not the type of personality that wants drama.
And I know that might not be what like maybe
the public persona of it looks like because of the
way we saw him leave the playoff game last year.
Or you know what's going on now, But he's really
not a drama dude.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Jonas like exactly what Alan said.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
He's an all in type of guy, like he he
does things with his heart. And so all the way
in means all the way in, which means that when
you're an all the way in guy, you expect everybody
else around you to be all the way in. So
somebody isn't sane, they're not talking right, somebody isn't saying
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something that isn't right. And then you know, the way
it sounds, it's not just football like. It sounds like
this is turned personal and and the way Alan responded,
it's almost like Alan feels as though he could be
a facility, a mediator of sorts, and he's not doing
(10:03):
as great of a job. And I wonder if that
if that pinpoints McDermott or the OC. I really do
I want it's got to be one of the two,
or it's got to be both. But the way it sounds,
there is a there has been a souring of a
relationship and a guy like I will say, there's a
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guy like like Stefan Diggs. You can you can do
a lot of things to earn a guy like him
his trust, and it takes time to earn that buy
in and that trust from him because he does things
with his heart. But it only takes a moment to
(10:50):
ruin the trust. It takes time to build it, but
it only takes a moment to ruin it. And I
don't know if if steph Ufon Diggs is one of
those I don't know him well enough to know if
he's one of those guys that can bounce back, if
that's indeed the case. Now I'm speculating, but just reading
(11:11):
between the lines of what Alan said, what what what
Diggs is post said, somebody said something to him that
they shouldn't have said, and maybe it was a build up,
Maybe it was something that was ongoing and it just
kind of came to a head.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Uh in the game.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
He didn't get very many targets in that loss that
they had in the playoffs, if my recollection serves me correctly,
who did they play in the first round of the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
It was Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Well, they played Miami the first round and that was
a beach closer game, the backup quarterback, and then they
they played Cincinnati and just got waxed by the at home.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And what was his numbers in that game? Do we remember?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I just I remember last year he started off hot
like he was. He was on page through the first
nine games to have the best season of his career,
and then he really tapered off late in the year and.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
He got he got four balls thrown his way for
thirty five yards.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I mean, listen, that's five more than me. So you know,
he can he can bitch all he wants, but at
least he got some balls thrown his way.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I didn't get any.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Everybody doesn't deserve to be able to get balls thrown
their way and then them you know what I mean.
So point, I'll let you and Stephan worry about that
one in that regard, but I will say, you do
not play professional football. So that is quite the difference
in terms of comparison, if we're going to go that
deep into it.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
But that's fair, just a more eloquent way to say
that you never played the game.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
You never played at that level. Hey, but here's the thing,
you don't. You don't have to look very far at
that position to know that the greats want the ball. Yeah,
they want the ball, and they will get irate if
they're not getting the ball. You're in the biggest game
(13:03):
of the year, of the season against an emerging power
in the Cincinnati Bengals, who happen to have a guy
that is considered to be one of the most elite
receivers in the game in Jamar Chase. This was clearly
and for what it's worth, they have a few other
(13:24):
guys on on Cincinnati that could be considered to be
elite as well. You're talking about a guy who's ultra competitive,
that wants to show up, that wants to be able
to have those moments. If you see the way he
works out and he trains in the offseason, his workout
regiment is sick. It's pretty crazy. So you put in
(13:45):
all that time and you put in all that work,
you know what you want to do. You know what
you want to be Jonas. You want to be recognized
for for how well you play the game. You want
to be you want to be in those big moments.
That's how you build a career, that's how you moved
towards having a Hall of Fame career. When you're on
stages as big as that, you want to have the
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ball in your hands and he did not thirty five
yards for fork receptions.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, that's no good.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
And to your point on something must have been said,
and you know he takes it to heart. He's probably
a pretty sensitive guy and he you know, that's still
bothering him all these months later. Whenever it happened last year.
It kind of has a Rogers vibe to it, right Rodgers,
to where he never was able to get over the
miscommunication and whatever was you know, talked about or not
(14:42):
talked about when it came to drafting Jordan Love and
then just sort of the distance that was between him
and Brian Gudekunst and everybody else in Green Bay in
the front office. He was never able to get over that,
and that's stuck with him for a while because, look,
it would be easy to say, well, Stefan Diggs just
wants to get paid.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
He wants money. He just signed an extension last off season.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, that's not it Like there's this person.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
This is personally, this sounds personal And again this is speculation,
but it's not hard to speculate when emotions are involved,
and when they're running high, it's it's more or less
what is it like pinpointing who it is.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yea.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
But but if Josh Allen feels as though he could
do more to help the situation, it sounds like this
is something that has been escalating. Maybe this is something
that has taken place, the exchanges in the meeting room,
different things like that, how they're communicating on the field.
When you end up having numbers that low, maybe Josh
(15:40):
Allen's way of saying he could have helped it is
he could have targeted Stefan Diggs more, he could have
got him more involved in the offense. But you know,
the the high was I think five in that game.
You know somebody got five catches in that game. Like
that's trash and a and a big game like that,
a playoff game you're talking about. God should have like
(16:00):
to double digits of receptions and they should be approaching
the century mark, if not more.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
That's what you want to see.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Out of your franchise player at the receiver position, especially
after we had such a long drawn out conversation about
the devaluing of the running backs position. Well, you know
what position has gone up in value, tremendous value.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
The receiver's position.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
You know who has been very very much maligned on
how they finish out in the playoffs outside of just
their slugouts that they know the game they had against
Sincy the year before, you sit there was it since
here was a Kansas City, Kansas City. You look at
the potential of where this Buffalo Bills team has been going,
(16:49):
and yet they still continue to do what the Buffalo
Bills have always done, come up short. Even if they've
made it to the super Bowl four times in a row,
they come up short. Talking about a franchise that gets
a lot of static and because they can't make it
out of the big game in the playoffs. And to me,
(17:10):
to me, this just seems like they weren't calling his number,
Jonas And how do you not call that man's number.
He's the best player on your team outside of Island.
How are you not calling his number? And so if
you're not calling his number, I can guarantee you that
that is that is probably there's some type of retaliation,
(17:34):
some type of hard feeling that's connected to the person
that's calling the plays.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, I just like the way this whole offseason is
gone and the end of last year, Like if I
was a Bills fan, I'd have heartburn.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I'm so glad that you said that, because stress can
really live in your belly.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Man. And I'll tell you what. For me.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Every once in a while, I get heartburn and I
get acid reflux. I had a drink yesterday. It had
muddled lapeno peppers, and I'll tell you, Oh, I loved it.
It was mango pure. What is that called? What I
just say, muddled? Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I had muddled halapenos in it. And let me tell
you something.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
If I didn't have my prolosack OTC working on my belly,
it would not have ended well, not for me, not
for nobody around me in the room.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Because I would have been feeling real bad.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
So if you've gotten tired of chewing chalky and acids
all day, make sure you try out prilo sack OTC
with just one pill each morning experience a full twenty
four hours of zero heartburn. Yes, people, it is possible
while taking prolosack otc, so make sure you use as directed.
(18:51):
And it's for fourteen days to treat frequent heartburn. It's
not for immediate relief, so make sure you go get
you a box to day and get and get that
fourteen days in because let me tell you something, whether
you're step On Diggs and you're not getting the calls
that you want to make, the catches and the plays
that you want to make, or your LeVar Arrington that
enjoyed an amazing day yesterday and finished off with having
(19:14):
a mango pure ray halopena haalepeno pepper drink cocktail to
wash down what an amazing day was. Make sure you
get some prowlosak otc man. Yeah, man, there you go.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
That's hot.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
It is two pros and a couple of Joe Fox
Sports Radio var Arrington Jonas to this bisy.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
So we are gonna have the usuals coming up later on.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
We get another edition of in case you missed it,
we got our Midweek Awards, the old p Petros Babadega
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Speaker 3 (19:43):
We're also gonna have another edition of You In or
You Out.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
It's all yours again, a three hour extravaganza here on
a Wednesday morning. But somebody in the NFL just laid
waste to an entire fan base and you'll hear from
them next.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Be sure to catch live edition some two pros and
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Speaker 1 (20:12):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio.
He's LeVar Arrington. I'm Jonas Knox coming up in about
twenty minutes from now from the tiraq dot com studios.
One of the dumbest ideas in all of sports. It
played out over the last twenty four hours. We'll get
into that for you again twenty minutes from now here
from the ti Raq dot Com studios. So LaVar Arrington,
(20:33):
it's never too early to try and stir the pot
in a great rivalry in the world of football. Okay,
maybe one of the great rivalries not only in the
world of football, but the world of sports is.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Aaron Rodgers and Guna Koomte.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
That is true, and it does tie into that a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Okay, But you've also got the Packers and the Bears,
one of the great rivalries now historically very very one
sided as of late, a lot of dominance on the
side of the Green Bay Packers, well apparently, and I'm
not trying to The last thing I want to.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Do is piss anybody off in Wisconsin. That's what I
want to know.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
What I want to do here, because look, we are
on ninety seven to three, the game. We're on AM
ten seventy, Fox Sports ten seventy in Madison. You know
that we love our people there. You got the great
Steve Zabin Sabe coming up, you got Mike Heller, one
of the one of the nicest people in all of
sports radio. But somebody had some things to say. And
(21:31):
that's somebody was none other than Bears defensive lineman Justin Jones,
who decided to have some comments about the departing Aaron Rodgers,
how a matchup last year at lambeau Field went, and
what he's looking forward to doing to Green Bay this
coming year.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
How different is it kind of being out that Aaron
Rodgers somewhere else.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
I wish he played one more year with the Green
Bay Honestly, we went up there and we played We
played a pretty good game, you know, but they got
away from us at the end, obviously, and they won.
But their fans are really so Yeah, I wanted to
go back up there, and I want to play them,
and I want to beat them, and I wanted him
to be there so you can see it. But the
(22:12):
fact that he's going now, you know, I mean, it's cool.
I guess it's better for him than to be here,
you know. But but yeah, man, I'm I'm ready to
take it over.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I mean, it's a good time to be a Bears fan.
I'm not even gonna lie to you. So this is
a follow up question. I never thought of asking which
ways are they?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Man?
Speaker 8 (22:30):
I mean, man, like, just just the way that they're
just freaking obnoxious, just yelling and all that other stuff
about things that don't even matter, Like we're not even
we're not even running to play, and you guys are
talking about oh yeah, like what do you even talking?
Yeah even started yet? Like what do we been talking
about here? Like, you know, y'all half of them don't
even know football. It's so weird to me. But I
(22:50):
was just ready to go back out there and play.
And I want to go out there, and I want
to beat the hell out of them, you know, on
their field, and I want to hear it. I want
to hear the booze in you know that. That's what
I look forward to.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Justin Jones letting it be known not a big fan
of the Packer fan base.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
The game he's referencing, by the way, that was week
two of last year, and to his point, the Bears
were definitely competitive. They had a seven they had a
seven to three lead at the end of the first,
seven to three lead at the end of the first quarter,
and proceeded to get outscored twenty four to three the
rest of the game, so they lost by seventeen and
ed he felt the need to let everybody know that
(23:24):
this is this is how things are going to go.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
They were three and fourteen last year.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Like, hey, my guy, listen to what I'm telling you.
Fourteen times another team was better than you. You want
to know what's obnoxious when you win three games and
you talking about another team's fan base that has been
pretty dang good over the last few years and just
(23:53):
missed the playoffs a BYuT one game in a down year.
To say that it's a good time to be a
Bears fan after a three win season, I would just
suggest that you get into the season and maybe start
three and oh before you start talking about the fact
(24:13):
that it's great time to be a Bears fan. I
always am reminded of the late great John Madden when
I said, it's a great time to be a Washington
R fan. And I tell you what he asked me,
do you think that you guys have a chance of
making the playoffs or even the super Bowl? And I said, hell, yes,
(24:34):
Coach Matten, of course we have a chance. Look at
the team that we have, look at the talent that
we have. That man said, I would bungee jump out
of the blimp, the good Year blimp, over top of
the fifty yard line for the halftime show if you
guys made it to the super Bowl, And well, you
(24:56):
were with my dream. And so to me, like, I
like the fact that you have the fire in your belly,
you know Jonas I, I love the fact that he
feels a certain type of of of pride and a
certain type of of passion towards the Bears getting back
(25:18):
to winning football.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
But let's not get carried away.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
You know, even if they are going to be that good,
it's better to be a killer that an assassin that
moves and and vileance and silence, not in not in noise.
And let me tell you something. To call out a
fan base, the call out the fan base is kind
of like, all right, they're obnoxious, they're they're they're idy,
(25:44):
they're there, they don't know football, they knew enough to
beat y'all. They their team knew enough about you to
beat y'all. And and and to me, when I look
at a statement like this, are you directing your towards
the fans because you ain't good enough to do it
against the players? Like say the players are idy, Say
(26:07):
they're oubnoxious. Now we got something, But them fans can't
do nothing to you, and you're not doing nothing to
them fans.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
It's all, so what are you really calling them out for?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Like if somebody told you, like, there's one thing to
have a track record, but if somebody told you, hey,
we've got thirty years of a track record, like that
feels like some evidence and some information I'd like to
get my hands on so that I could know what
the future may hold, because if the track record is
there for thirty years, what's to say it's not going
to be there moving forward? And the reason I say
(26:37):
this is because there's good news and bad news for
Justin Jones and the Bears.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
When it comes to the.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Packers, well, Aaron Rodgers is gone. So that's the good news.
The bad news is, for the last thirty years you've
been getting dominated at the position of quarterback, which has
really been the problem there. And they've had some good years.
They went to a Super Bowl, they made some playoff
runs under Lovey Smith, they were in an NFC Championship.
(27:01):
They lost to the Packers coincidentally enough, but they probably
thought when Brett Farv left, okay, at least got.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
We got got to him.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, we got a chance.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
And then it got even worse because Rogers was better
against the Bears than Brett Farv was.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
So the idea that this is.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Now the time, I just I would encourage Bears fans
to just look.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I know there's a lot of excitement. I know people
are fired up.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
They think Justin Fields is the guy, and they've added, yes, definitely.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Maybe he is.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
But I gotta I gotta wait a little bit, you know,
Like I just I gotta wait to see what's in
the box underneath the Christmas tree before I celebrate, Like
I just want a maserati, you know, I just I
got to see what's there first. And apparently there's no
waiting around. They feel like now that Rogers is gone.
Success is right around the corner. And they probably felt
the same way when Brett Farv left and it definitely
(27:54):
was not so. Well.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Leaves Dalvin Cooks, leaves Cook leaves the men, so the
Vikings vulnerable. The Vikings will not be a better team
without Without Dalvin Cooking on that team, the Detroit Lions
could be considered to be no different than the three
win Chicago Bears. If you ask me, geez, everybody's carried
(28:18):
away about the Detroit Lions. And you may be warranted,
and you may be, you know, in the right to
think so and to believe so. But they were not
a playoff team last year, just like the Beers weren't
a playoff team last year, just like the Green Bay
Packers weren't a playoff team last year. The NFC North
(28:39):
is wide open because the Lions still have to prove
they're a dominant team. They haven't proven that yet, they
proved that they could become a competitive team.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
They're not even a playoff team last year.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Campbell has proven to us that he's not just talk.
But the culture has changed. There's been a culture shift
that's wonderful, But you still got to prove it and
accomplish at a higher success level of success rate. Really,
the only quarterback in the division right now today is
(29:15):
Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
It's Kirk Cousins. I don't know about Justin Fields. I don't.
I don't know about Jordan Love right, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I mean Jared Goff. We could say Jared Goff, but
I'm not. I mean, I'm not going to say Jay.
I'm not taking Jared Goff over over Kirk Cousins. I'm
not taking him over. I'm not taking golf over Kirk Cousins.
So in the end, you got a guy that that
was not even perceived to be the guy in Los Angeles.
He shipped off for the guy that they trade for
(29:47):
and go win the Super Bowl the year after. Now
he fell off of a cliff after that, after the
lady fell off of the stage.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
But in Detroit the team has improved.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
But to say by default that this is a division
that is wide open, I just don't feel as though
it doesn't hit me the same way as if that
would have been Tommy Harris, or if that would have
been Brian Urlacker or Ralph Brown or Mike Browns or
Lance Briggs or Peanuts saying that you know, these these
(30:19):
fans are obnoxious and they're se fans, and and we're
going to run this thing back. It doesn't hit the same,
It does not hit the same. In fact, if I'm
being honest, it kind of diminishes, and it kind of
the values to me, the value of Justin Jones as
(30:39):
a player, because you're talking about a team that's wounded.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Like the.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Sense to me is when you're a true competitor, you
don't kick a man while he's down. You stand up
and you look at that man eye to eye, and
y'all go toe to toe and you talk your noise
right then, and then the best you can do is
imply your and like, impose your will on that man
toe to toe. Not oh, Aaron Rodgers is gone, Like, oh,
(31:09):
I wish he was still here. Why so you could
lose again. Y'all lost to them in a down year.
Y'all didn't lose to him, not just not just in
his MVP years. Y'all lost to him last year in
the down year. Y'all part of the reason why they
had an opportunity to make the playoffs at the end
of the season, Like be clear on that. So to me,
I feel like the trash talk right now, you're doing
(31:32):
it because it's advantageous to try to talk trash, and
it's by subtraction, it's not by addition. You're not looking
out of Aaron Rodgers team that's loaded. You're not looking
at a Minnesota Vikings team that's loaded. You're not looking
at a Detroit team that has established that they're the
team in the North. And you, for damn sure having
established that you're the team in the North as the Bears.
(31:55):
So you're doing this by subtraction. Justin I'll just give
you a bit of advice.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
My young g I mean, maybe he's happy to be playing.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Just play ball. He'll bear and play ball.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Coming up next here on Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe, though, we're going to talk about one of
the worst ideas in recent sports memory, and that's yours.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Next year on FSR, be sure to catch live editions
of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn,
LeVar Errington, and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern,
three am Pacific.
Speaker 9 (32:25):
Hey, this is Tom Berducci from Fox Sports, MLB Network
and Sports illustrated.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
And I'm Joe Madden.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
We're going to be around to talk a little bit
about managerial decisions and what may have accredit to the
dugot maybe in the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 9 (32:36):
It's the Book of Joe podcasts. I can't wait for this, Joe.
We're going to dive into what goes on in the
dugout and behind the scenes in Major.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
League Baseball, cars, wind whatever else we want to talk about.
Speaker 9 (32:46):
Yeah, well there are no boundaries, right. Listen to the
Book of Joe podcast on the iHeartRadio app, on Apple
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Speaker 3 (32:55):
Oh my god, hair coms.
Speaker 10 (32:58):
Eddie Garcia, look at those arms, the man with the
golden pipes, Garcia? What the big boat off the ropes
drops a leg?
Speaker 8 (33:17):
One?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Two three? How bad at Eddie?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Eddie your far.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah, brother, how bad at Eddie? A real American. I'm
gonna tear my shirt off right now.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Nobody's more American than Eddie. Born in Hawaii from Alabama.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yeah, not front of it, from Alaxa. Well we live
in Alabama, brother, My mom was from there. Okay, well listen,
same thing.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Well, we round up to make stories fit on this show.
Sorry network, it is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here.
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox, You're coming up
top of Next Hour about ten minutes from now from
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head into training camp in the NFLS. We'll get into
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Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
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Speaker 1 (34:37):
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Speaker 11 (34:41):
Good morning, everybody, Good morning, Jonas, Good morning, LeVar, Good morning.
On the same day, the Nevada State damn it, you
threw me off there, LeVar. On the same day, the
Nevada Senate voted to approve good, thank you very much.
On the same day, this Nevada Senate voted to approve
three hundred and eighty million dollars in public money for
a Las Vegas ballpark for the Athletics. Fans in Oakland
(35:04):
held their long planned reverse boycott, intended to fill the
stadium and prove their worths to both the owner, John
Fisher and Major League Baseball, more than triple the average attendance.
So what was eight thousand turned into twenty eight thousand
fans rocking green T shirts that said sell and all
(35:25):
chanting this.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Too. What a what a dumb idea?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Imagine finding out your wife's having an affair on you,
and just to show her you buy her a new
car on the way out of the divorce.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, I'll show you. I'll kill you with kindness. Sweet
thanks for the parting gifts.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
So they just made the guy a bunch of money
in one night as he embarks on a trip to
Vegas to go bring in a Major League Baseball team. There,
what a dumb idea. Shouldn't have shown up, should have
sat on your asses at home and let that guy
collect pennies on his way out the door when he
runs to go build some sort of a ballpark in
between the Statue of Liberty at New York, New York
(36:10):
and a lion at MGM.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Grant put a dumb idea. It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Tell us how you really feel.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Just like, why would you do it? On the way out?
Let's give him a bunch of money on the way out.
Let's go pay for fifteen dollars beers just to show him.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Like, what are you doing, dude?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Like he's leaving, it's over, Like why why? Why give
him a parting gift? Doesn't make any sense to me,
you know what I mean? So I'm talking about a
right It'd be like if Dan Snyder on his way out.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
The door, trying to make it personal. I don't want it.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
No, Like Dan, he tries to tries to run out
the door, and then they're like, we'll show up and
show him we're real fans.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
The hell are we talking about here?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (36:48):
Noekay, one of the lead programmers and designers of the
All time Great sports video games NBA JIM, revealed that
he put a glitch glitch in the game that would
prevent the Bulls from winning any last second shots against
the Pistons.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Brilliant.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
That's brilliant. Good for him.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
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