July 3, 2023 • 44 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox believes Damian Lillard requesting a trade is a result of fans simplifying legacies with Championships. A deep dive into gambling paranoia around the NFL. Joe Burrow is waiting on Justin Herbert to get his deal done first but Jonas argues for Burrow to sign his deal now. Plus, Edward 40-Hands and much more on “In Case You Missed It.”
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is the best of two pros and a cup
of Joe with Lamar Arrington rating Win and Jonas Knots
on Box four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Happy beginning of the fourth of July. Holiday to you
and yours out there. Hope everybody's having a good time.
As we talked about, I'm sure you've already fired off
fireworks because that's what people do nowadays. It's not good
enough we can just do it on the fourth. You
got to do it on the first, second, the third,
the fifth, to sixth, and every other day following that, seemingly.
So this is like a four day weekend. People getting
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after it, you know, just you know, maybe it's like
a two day barbecue extravaganza and then you're just gonna
be feeling like crap when you go back into work
on Wednesday. But whatever the case is, and if you
are working, welcome to the club. We're all grinding away
here on a Monday morning, so be safe out there.
The weather's heating up. We you know, celebrate friends, family,
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good food, and booze, you name it, all the other
funds to come along with it. But we appreciate you
hanging out with us here on this Monday morning. The
big story over the weekend. And I look, I think
you know, I'm not trying. I don't want to point
fingers to start off hour three of the program, But
I mean I would blame you man. I think you're
partly responsible for this. You listening here, I think you
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know I'm partly responsible. I think people in the media
are partly responsible. Damian Lillard has officially requested a trade
from the Portland Trailblazers.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
That was a guy who you know, talked about being
loyal and you know, wanted to stay in Portland, and
apparently he wasn't happy with some of the moves that
they had made. But again, I mean, blame yourselves. Look,
you tell these guys their careers don't matter unless they
win a championship. I mean we hear it all the time.
Blame yourselves. Oh, you don't like the Kevin Durant had
to leave, Blame blame yourself. You're the one that made
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it that way. You don't like well Lebron did to Cleveland,
you know, with the decision going to Miami. Blame yourself.
You know, we put a premium on champion chips. We
tell everybody, like your career is not isn't as you know,
successful as somebody else's unless you win a championship. And
here we are got another guy who's leaving an organization
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he's been with his entire career and he's gone. He
wants out, he wants to go somewhere else. So if
you're a Portland Trailblazer fan, and look, I can understand
why Portland Trailblazer fans would be pissed off.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I got to understand that. I get it. You know,
you look at it and go all right.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Thought you were layer at us, thought you wanted to
stay here, thought you wanted to be a Portland Trailblazer,
and now you're just like everybody else, and now you're
in a bail Okay. I mean I don't mind anybody
wanting to go somewhere like Look, you can leave your
job and go wherever you want. It never bothered me
to Kevin Durant did what he did. It never bothered
me Lebron James did what he did. You know, if
you decide, hey it's time for me to go, I'll go.
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But this is all about winning a title. Damian Lillard
wants to win a championship. He wants to win a title,
and he feels like he can't get it done in Portland,
so he's gonna go somewhere else. Now, the odds of
him winning a championship are still long, Like if you
just look at the destinations, there's been the Miami Heat,
the Brooklyn Nets have been thrown out there, the Clippers
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were mentioned over the weekend, the seventy six ers. I mean,
I don't know that adding Damian Lillard all of a
sudden makes that team the favorite to win the championship.
I mean, like, you go to Miami, as I mentioned
earlier in the show, like who's to say if Giannis
is healthy? Miami even gets out of that first round
last year. I mean you go to Philly. Yeah, there's
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a lot of talent there, apparently you know, James Harden's
not going to be there and Joelle Embiid, like, you know,
you still got some talent there. But it's I mean
still like you got to deal with Boston, you got
to deal with Miami, with Milwaukee, like it just there's
no guarantees. So if all this is is for better
odds at winning a championship, then good luck to him.
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I just think part of the problem is we put
too much emphasis on you've got to win a championship
in order to be considered one of the all time
greats or one of the best in your field, when
the reality is a lot of stuff has to go
your way. There's a lot of circumstances that are out there,
and I think too often it's the easiest thing to
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do to just recap a guy's career in credentials and go,
did he win a championship? Oh no, he's out. Yeah,
you're out now. I never want a title, You're out.
It's like, okay, well, I mean, if we're gonna play
that game, then you're gonna eliminate a lot of great careers. Like,
if we're gonna play that game, we're gonna eliminate a
lot of guys who did a lot of things. They
just never were able to be on a team that
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got some of the breaks that went the other way
to win a championship. And so it's unfortunately. Also, I
would like to say this, this is Miami heat rumor.
I don't buy it at all. It doesn't make any
sense to me. And I'm going on what I've been
told about the Miami Heat, like I was told that
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this is an organization built on undrafted players. Like I
was told that for weeks in the postseason, all these
undrafted guys, all these undrafted players. That's what I was told.
That's how they were built. So you mean to tell
me they're going to go ahead and trade away for
Damian Lillard. He doesn't qualify. He was drafted. He does
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not qualify for heat culture. He was drafted. It doesn't
make any sense. Again, I'm just going by what I
was told that heat culture is different. They take undrafted
players and they go all the way to the finals.
That's what I was told. So I'm just trying to
play by the rules, the rules of knowledge when it
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comes to hashtag heat culture. Damian Lillard was a pretty
high pick in the draft. Yes, he came from a
small school, but he was a high draft pick. I
don't know that he qualifies there. So the fact that
Miami's even through in there, I just think is reckless speculation.
In fact, I think it's uneducated speculation because clearly they
did not listen to any of the commentary and any
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of the discussion about heat culture in the playoffs. Otherwise
this would not even be a possibility. Now, if Damian
Lillard was undrafted, then I think he absolutely qualifies to
be a member of the Miami Heat. You know, just
like all the great Heat players from the past that
were also undrafted.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
You know, guys like Shack.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Dwayne Wade, you know, Alonzo Morning, Lebron, Chris Bosh, Jimmy Butler,
you know all those undrafted guys that make up hashtag
Heat culture. Again, just playing by the rules here. This
is what I was force fed for weeks during the playoffs,
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So just making sure I'm on the same page. Two
pros and a cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio. Also,
the paranoias is taking place in the with this gambling stuff.
Mike Florio was mentioning this over the weekend that you know,
maybe players, what's to stop them from, you know, going
out and you know, having a family member or somebody
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place a wager form if they've got intimate knowledge or
inside information or anything like that. And like, I understand
that this is a new thing and that it's a
bad look for the NFL because you had Calvin Ridley
get pop for gambling, you had members of the Lions
get pop for gambling. Then you had Isaiah Rogers of
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the Colts do a thousand dollars bet on a prop
on rushing yards for a cults running back, Like I
get out, Like all the optics are bad, you know,
it's a worse optic than all that being a stalker.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I'd like to not have that optic. In fact, I.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Would rather be too trustworthy than be a stalker personally,
Like if like if you were to ask me, like, hey,
you know kind of really trustworthy, kind of gullible, you know,
I'd rather that than you know, hiding in a closet,
waiting outside your front door tracking devices, hire a private investigator,
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like I would just rather Like, I wonder how many
times somebody assumes something bad's going to happen. They're so
paranoid that they hire a private investigator and the private
investigator finds nothing, Like I wonder how many times that's happened.
Like the show Cheaters, they always catch somebody in the act.
(08:39):
I want to know how many of the episodes somebody
just assumed that they're that the other half was cheating
or doing something wrong, and so they sent the camera
crew over there and they just found out that the
guy was like picking up you know, a couple extra
hours at a hotel as like a cleaning person or
like a maintenance guy, like, oh my god, he's at
the hotel again. He's at that little, that shady motel
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off the highway again. Must be fooled around. Who's he
no over there? Who's he meeting over there? And then
you walk in, he's got a bare of plyers out
into the sink trying to fix a leak.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
You thought I was fooling around?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Like this paranoia that people have with gambling, in the NFL,
it was always there. They could all players could always
have somebody go place a wager form. It's it's called
being a runner. That's how this used to be done
to where if you want to if you didn't want
to tip off the casinos in the old days, you
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would hire a runner. So if you if you wanted
to place like say you didn't even have intimate knowledge
of something or inside information like Isaiah Rodgers had or
any of the NFL players could have, if you wanted
to place a significant wager on a game, and you
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knew that if you bet it all in one casino,
it would throw up a red flag and all of
a sudden, people beIN like, okay, what's going on here.
What you would do is you would hire somebody to
go do small amounts at different casinos. So if out
of nowhere, you wanted to put a fifty thousand dollars
bet on a game, just some random baseball game, you know,
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it could be raise A's on a Wednesday night, and
say you did have insider information if you wanted to
go bet fifty thousand dollars on that game, that would
flag that casino and they would say, there's something going
on here, that's weird behavior. We normally don't see a
bet like that coming in. It would trigger something and
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they would all of a sudden be investigating that, and
that's how you would get caught. So what people used
to do back in the day, and look they probably
still do it now, is they would hire runners to
where instead of betting fifty thousand dollars at one casino,
you would bet ten thousand dollars at a bunch of casinos.
So you'd go to five different casinos or five different
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sports books and throw down ten thousand dollars Because ten
thousand dollars isn't gonna throw a red flag. Up as
much as fifty thousand dollars in one place would so
if you spread it out, you can get all your
bets in.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
It was called a runner man. NFL players could have
had that for years. They could have had it for years.
They could have.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Had a runner for every single game they played in,
like if they knew what the game plan was gonna be.
Like this is how, this is how this stuff works.
You can actually bet what the first play of a
game is going to be, whether it's a run or
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a pass, or a completed pass or an incomplete like
that is how detailed this is. Like if you're doing,
like if you want to do in game betting on baseball,
there are some places where you can bet what the
next hitch is going to be, curveball, fastball, slider, that's
been there for years. You don't think a player in
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the NFL, if they wanted to, if they knew the
game plan and knew, hey, we're gonna run early and often,
you don't think they could hit up one of their
buddies and say, if I were you, I'd go take
forty thousand dollars to as many sports books as you can,
or do it on your gambling app. I would go
on there and I would bet on the prop. What
do we do first play today, first play of the game,
because we're running the football a lot. Okay, no problem,
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I'll take it. That stuff could have always been there.
But just because this has popped up recently, there's this
paranoia about what could happen, like what could have players players?
I mean, what's the stopping from doing this? You even
had former players who have gone on social media saying so, wait,
I can do this, but I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
It doesn't make sense. The punishments don't add up.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Like I said it earlier, At some point, you just
got to recognize and just accept the fact and trust
that you're not with a scumbag. Like I would rather
put all of my faith and trust in the person
i'm with then have them catch me hiding under a
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coffee table at some hotel when they're on a business
trip because I think they're fooling around behind my back.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I just like you just.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Got to put your I don't want to be a stalker.
I don't want to have to stock people, all right,
I just trust you. If it turns out I got burned,
then I get burned. But at least I don't look
like I'm paranoid, and at least I'm not chasing somebody
away just because I'm assuming the worst. If you're the NFL,
if you're people covering the NFL and this whole gambling
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stuff is new to you, just take a step back.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Everybody, relax.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
They could have been doing this stuff a long time
ago and we got through fine, and if we get
another gambling scandal, it's more content for us. Just trust
that you don't have a bunch of scumbags who are
ruining the game by placing bets on it.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
And if they are, throw some of my way.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
You know, I'd love to win a couple of bets
here or there, you know, because I'm losing my ass
the past couple of seasons in the NFL. I don't
know if it's COVID or what, but I can't seem
to figure out the NFL.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
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Speaker 3 (14:31):
Everybody's been waiting around.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Like the two guys that people are waiting on to
make a decision and make a deal are Joe Burrow
and Justin Herbert. One of these guys going to sign
their contract extension because they're going to get paid. And
you know, Cincinnati has been kind of bracing themselves for this.
We've talked about this to where, you know, stadium sponsorship,
you know, they didn't normally do that. You know, now
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you can gamble in the state of Ohio, so maybe
you know some of that gambling revenue, you know, throw
a sports book in there in the state. Like whatever
they're trying to think of or whatever they're trying to do,
they're trying to come up with as much cash as
possible because Joe Burrow's their guy. It's been a total success,
and they'd like to hold on to him for the
next twelve to fifteen years and get him paid, get
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him locked in, and get the deal done. And then
with Justin Herbert and the Chargers, like he's not going anywhere.
The Chargers have identified he's their franchise quarterback and he's
going to be our guy moving forward. And now you're
just kind of waiting around, you know, these are the
next two and what are we waiting on? And they've
all talked. Joe Burrow and his camp have said, and
the Cincinnati Bengals have kept it pretty close to the vest,
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and everybody's been trying to figure out, all right, so
who's going to be the next one to get their
deal done? Jalen Hurts got paid, Lamar Jackson got paid.
Who's going to be the next one? So this discussion
has been going on in Cincinnati for a little while now,
and people have been trying to figure out whether or
not Joe Burrow's going to go first or Justin Herbert's
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going to go first. And apparently there's a thinking behind
why Joe Burrow may be waiting this according to Paul Danner,
Junior of The Athletic, who said that part of the
delay in Joe Burrow signing his contract is because he's
waiting on Justin Herbert. Now, all of that would make sense.
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You want to see what the other guy settles for
and then you can come over the top. Like all
of that makes sense. I totally get it. But if
it's me, and maybe I'm just playing it safe, and
maybe I'm not, as you know, ballsy or gutsy when
it comes to finances and things like that.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
But if it's me, I'm taking my.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Deal and I'm not really waiting around for the other guy, because,
let's be on, based on the structure of the contract,
you could probably come back in a couple of years
and then redo it again, like Aaron Rodgers when he
got his deal done years ago. All of a sudden,
you look back a couple of years later and Rogers
was like, you know, kind of low on the list
when it comes to quarterbacks making money. And then they
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redid it and he's getting what fifty million a year
from the Packers and now onto the Jets. You're just
going to redo the deal. Anyways, after a couple of years.
You would think that's why Patrick Mahomes there's been speculation
about what they're going to do with his contractor Josh
Allen or some of these guys. But Joe Burrow waiting
around potentially for Justin Herbert to get his deal done.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I mean, you know, if.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I'm Burrow, first of all, he's done more than Justin
Herbert as I mean, Justin Herbert's got all the potential
and all the promise in the world. But Joe Burrow's
actually taking his team to a super Bowl. You could
argue maybe they should have won that Super Bowl. He
took him to an AFC title game. He's completely turned
around the entire franchise, Like they've gone from disaster trying
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to recover from Andy Dalton. Is Zach Taylor going to
get fired? Do they regret firing Marvin Lewis, etc. Et cetera,
et cetera. And now they're one of the teams in
the NFL that you look at and go, yeah, that
that's a legitimate Super Bowl contender. I mean, they've ruined
the Buffalo Bills, Like Buffalo's not been the same since
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that playoff game. Stefan Diggs doesn't know whether or not
he wants to be on the team anymore. He's, you know,
fighting with somebody. Is it Josh Allen? Is it the
head coach? Like what Cincinnati's They've completely changed the course
of the AFC for at least one franchise. So Joe
Burrow's their guy, like Justin Herbert. Yeah, I mean he's
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still got, you know, things he needs to accomplish, like
winning a playoff game and all the other fun stuff.
So he's gonna get paid. But Joe Burrow definitely deserves
to get paid. And if he's waiting around for Justin Herbert,
me personally, I'm getting.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
My deal done. I'm not waiting for anybody.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
If he ends up being making more money than me
the first couple of years of the deal, and I
got to go back after year three or four and
redo the contract with Cincinnati, then I'll do that. But
the idea that he's waiting around for Justin I would
get my deal done. And on top of that, and
this sort of gets lost in the shuffle. Joe Burrow
suffered a pretty nasty knee injury his first year that
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cut his rookie season short, where he tore a couple
of ligaments, and to I give anybody knows the mortality
of your NFL career, Joe Burrow suffered a devastating knee
injury year one. You would think that would be somebody
who doesn't want to take any chances and wants to
go and get a deal done. It's why would Lamar
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Jackson was playing the game with the Baltimore Ravens trying
to get his contract done. I'm thinking to myself, dude,
you've had your career. You know mortality stare your square
in the eyes a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Already.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
You're a mobile quarterback, You've suffered, You've been banged up
and injured multiple times in your career. Why would you
not want to get a deal done now? I play
it safe, all right. When we talk about betting on
sports legitimately, and I'm not making this up. When I
complain about bets that I lose, they're five and ten dollars.
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I don't have the guts to bet significant money on
a game because it'll drive me nuts. Because I can
remember being a bus boy at TGI Fridays and betting
a one hundred dollars parlay. It was I think Lebron
James's rookie year. I want to say maybe it was
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first or second year. They were playing the Orlando Magic.
This is how long ago it was. It was when
Tracy McGrady was on the Orlando Magic and I had
a two team parlay. I had the Calves minus two
and a half, or I had the Calves plus two
and a half and I had the under. So the
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over under was like two hundred and two oh one
something like that, and Cleveland had a one hundred to
ninety seven lead, So on a parlay, you need both
of those to hit in order to get paid, and
I bet one hundred dollars on it it would have
paid out two sixty. Cleveland had a one hundred to
ninety seven lead. So not only am I winning my
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plus two and a half because I'm getting two and
a half points and they're up by three, not only
am I covering that, but as it stands right now,
the totals at one ninety seven. I'm about to hit
the under and Tracy McGrady shoots a three at the
buzzer and gets fouled, misses the shot, but goes to
the free throw line and hits all three free throws.
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And I'm standing with a bus tub in my hand,
a squirt bottle hanging off my apron, holding on to
some paper towels. I'm about to wipe down a party
of eight from thinking to myself, I just worked this
entire shift for free, one hundred dollars, gone man up
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and vanished like a fart in the wind. Okay, I've
been scarred ever since that, and that happened like twenty
years ago. So when it comes to financial risk, taking
I don't take any chances. And if I'm Joe Burrow,
I'm not waiting around for Justin Herbert and the Chargers
to figure out whether or not they want to get.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
A deal done.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And I'm definitely not waiting around to play football any longer,
especially after I suffered a devastating injury a couple of
years ago. Go to the table, figure out what it is.
Maybe you'll make a little bit less than some of
these other guys, but then you come back in a
couple of years after there's more revenue in the sport
and TV deals get bigger and the Bengals make more money,
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and then you can redo the contract. Then me, personally,
I'm the waiting around for a damn thing. Jonas Knox Here,
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Speaker 3 (23:40):
And who the hell knows?
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All Right, two pros and a cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio again. We're gonna have the FSRIR
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now here from those tiraq dot com studios. Hey, look,
another strike in downtown La.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Well, it's like.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Every day there's like some sort of worker strike, Like
every day, I just I don't. I mean, look, you
drive into the studio. Here, there's the Sherman Oaks Gallery
for people listening across the country, all right, to just
see you understand where the studio was located, these tire
raq dot com studios. It's right off the freeway, so
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you get right off the freeway and then you know,
you go you hang a right or depending on where
you're coming from, and then it's right across from this
giant shopping center called the Sherman Oaks Galleria. And I
believe that's the where they filmed the move. Was it
Fast Time a Ridgemont High Lee? That's the move that
was filmed there that I still have never seen it.
(24:37):
I don't know it's right. I just I've never said
I don't know why. But if you come here to
the studio on a Saturday, I don't remember the last
time that I didn't see some sort of a protest
or somebody on strike. I swear to god, I don't
remember the last time that happened. And I don't know
when this all started, if it was you know, COVID,
(24:58):
or if it was you know, people tie, you know,
they needed to be outdoors or whatever the case may be.
But it just feels like there's a writer strike, now,
there's some hotel workers strike, and just feel like everybody
like there's some sort of a strike going on at
all times. So that's one thing. Here's the other thing.
I love how people aren't happy with just one day.
(25:20):
They got to spread everything out.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
It's like you ever talk to somebody who celebrates like
a birthday weekend or a birthday month. Like there's some
people that are like, oh my god, it's my birthday month.
All right, your birthday's on the thirtieth. We're doing this
for four weeks really like you just it's my birthday week. No,
you get a birthday. You don't get birthdays, right. It's
(25:43):
not like when you know, you know, your your mom
was going through the process at like eleven forty five
at night. Oh we see that. Here comes all right,
so okay that the head is out. Everything is safe
so far, and the mom said, okay, we hold on
a second, give me like another twenty minutes. I want
to make sure my child can have a couple of
(26:05):
birthdays here. It's gonna be we'll do we'll do the
just the head and upper torso, and then we'll do
the legs. Uh, you know, when it passed midnight, So
that way we can get two birthdays going on here.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
It's really important. Let's go ahead and spread this stuff out.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
It's like these people that go, oh, it's my birthday month,
my birthday week, but it's starting to bleed over into
fourth of July. I've noticed, cause you bastards, you're just
not content with fireworks on the fourth of July.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
No no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
It's got to start on the first, the second, the third,
it's gonna be the fifth, it's gonna be the sixth.
Then you're gonna have some left over. You're gonna fire
those off on the seventh. Like is enough's enough? Just stop?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
All right?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Dogs don't like it. It freaks kids out and it's
not cool. Like there's people in my neighborhood that are
lighting off like mortar bombs. Like what do we It's
like a Sunday night at six pm and they're lighting
off mortar bombs. Well, it's fourth of July season. No no,
it's just fourth of July. It's not an entire season.
(27:12):
It's not a week, it's not a month. It's just
a day. And the day generally goes like this. People
wake up, they prep their food, they have an early cocktail,
they throw the food, you know, on the grill. If
they're smoking something, it's got to sit there for a
significant amount of time. Then maybe you go swimming, then
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maybe you run around and play. You'll watch some baseball,
have a couple of more beers, this and that, and
then at the end of the night, then the fireworks start.
And then maybe after the fireworks, you have a couple
of more cocktails and your roast some marshmallows, and it's
cool every day like it just it seems like there's
a process here. It's like a six or seven step process.
(27:54):
But that's not good enough, because ua hole's got to
light off fireworks all week long. I don't know when
that started. I don't know when everybody started to get greedy.
But you should be ashamed of yourself, all right, buy
the proper amount of fireworks so you don't feel like
you got to spread these out over the course of
several days and just let them blow off on fourth
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of July and then we move on with our lives.
But it's not gonna happen today. What is gonna happen.
They're gonna fire more off coming up later on today.
And I'm telling you, mark my words. July fifth, right
when you think it's a work week. Now, we can
focus on getting our stuff done. Some clown is going
to fire off some sort of a mortar bomb or
a piccolo pete in your mailbox because they're too drunk,
(28:39):
because they've got a cooler of beer left over from
the holiday, and they want to make sure that they
get all this stuff out of their system because they
want to be able to focus on Labor Day. I'm
telling you right now, it's gonna happen. Just get ready.
That's what Fourth of July is turned into. That and
that slob Joey Chestnuts shoving food in his mouth in
front of thousands of people on TV.
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Speaker 3 (29:39):
So there was some everybody's been waiting around.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Like the two guys that people are waiting on to
make a decision and make a deal are Joe Burrow
and Justin Herbert. One of these guys going to sign
their contract extension because they're going to get paid. And
you know, Cincinnati has been kind of bracing themselves for this.
We've talked about this to where, you know, stadium sponsorship.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
You know, they didn't normally do that.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
You know, now you can gamble in the state of Ohio,
so maybe you know some of that gambling revenue, you know,
throw a sports book in there in the state. Like
whatever they're trying to think of or whatever they're trying
to do, they're trying to come up with as much
cash as possible because Joe Burrows their guy. It's been
a total success and they'd like to hold on to
him for the next twelve fifteen years and get him paid,
(30:24):
get him locked in, and get the deal done. And
then with Justin Herbert and the Chargers, like he's not
going anywhere. The Chargers have identified he's their franchise quarterback
and he's going to be our guy moving forward. And
now you're just kind of waiting around. You know, these
are the next two and what are we waiting on?
And they've all talked, Joe Burrow and his camp have said,
and the Cincinnati Bengals have kept it pretty close to
(30:46):
the vest, and everybody's been trying to figure out, all right,
so who's going to be the next one to get
their deal done? Jalen Hurts got paid, Lamar Jackson got paid.
Who's going to be the next one? So this discussion
has been going on in Cincinnati for a little while now,
and people have been trying to figure out whether or
not Joe Burrow's going to go first or Justin Herbert's
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going to go first. And apparently there's a thinking behind
why Joe Burrow may be waiting this according to Paul Danner,
Junior of The Athletic, who said that part of the
delay in Joe Burrow signing his contract is because he's
waiting on Justin Herbert. Now, all of that would make sense.
(31:35):
You want to see what the other guy settles for,
and then you can come over the top. Like all
of that makes sense, I totally get it. But if
it's me, and maybe I'm just playing it safe, and
maybe I'm not as you know, ballsy or gutsy when
it comes to finances and things like that. But if
it's me, I'm taking my deal and I'm not really
waiting around for the other guy, because, let's be based
(31:58):
on the structure of the contract, you can probably come
back in a couple of years and then redo it again,
like Aaron Rodgers when he got his deal done years ago.
All of a sudden, you look back a couple of
years later and Rodgers was like, you know, kind of
low on the list when it comes to quarterbacks making money.
And then they redid it and he's getting what fifty
(32:18):
million a year from the Packers and now onto the Jets.
You're just going to redo the deal. Anyways, after a
couple of years, you would think that's why Patrick Mahomes
there's been speculation about what they're going to do with
his contractor Josh Allen or some of these guys. But
Joe Burrow waiting around potentially for Justin Herbert to get
his deal done. I mean, you know, if I'm Burrow.
(32:42):
First of all, He's done more than Justin Herbert as
I mean, Justin Herbert's got all the potential and all
the promise in the world. But Joe Burrow's actually taking
his team to a super Bowl. You could argue maybe
they should have won that Super Bowl. He took him
to an AFC title game, completely turned around the entire franchise.
(33:06):
Like they've gone from disaster trying to recover from Andy Dalton.
Is Zach Taylor going to get fired? Do they regret
firing Marvin Lewis, etc. Et cetera, et cetera. And now
they're one of the teams in the NFL that you
look at and go, yeah, that that's a legitimate Super
Bowl contender. I mean, they've ruined the Buffalo Bills, Like
(33:28):
Buffalo's not been the same since that playoff game. Stefan
Diggs doesn't know whether or not he wants to be
on the team anymore. He's, you know, fighting with somebody.
Is it Josh Allen? Is it the head coach?
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Like what.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Cincinnati's They've completely changed the course of the AFC for
at least one franchise. So Joe Burrow's their guy, Like
Justin Herbert. Yeah, I mean he's still got, you know,
things he needs to accomplish, like winning a playoff game
and all the other fun stuff. So he's going to
get paid. But Joe Burr definitely deserves to get paid.
(34:01):
And if he's waiting around for Justin Herbert, me personally,
I'm getting.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
My deal done. I'm not waiting for anybody.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
If he ends up being making more money than me
the first couple of years of the deal and I
got to go back after year three or four and
redo the contract with Cincinnati, then I'll do that. But
the idea that he's waiting around for Justin or I
would get my deal done. And on top of that,
and this sort of gets lost in the shuffle. Joe
Burrow suffered a pretty nasty knee injury his first year
(34:28):
that cut his rookie season short, where he tore a
couple of ligaments, and to I give anybody knows the
mortality of your NFL career, Joe Burrow suffered a devastating
knee injury year one. You would think that would be
somebody who doesn't want to take any chances and wants
to go and get a deal done. It's why would
(34:49):
Lamar Jackson was playing the game with the Baltimore Ravens
trying to get his contract done. I'm thinking to myself, Dude,
you've had your career. You know mortality stere your square
in the eyes a couple of times already. You're a
mobile quarterback, You've suffered, You've been banged up and injured
multiple times in your career. Why would you not want
to get a deal done now? I play it safe,
(35:13):
all right. When we talk about betting on sports legitimately,
and I'm not making this up. When I complain about
bets that I lose, they're five and ten dollars. I
don't have the guts to bet significant money on a
game because it'll drive me nuts. Because I can remember
(35:33):
being a bus boy at TGI Fridays and betting a
one hundred dollars parlay. It was I think Lebron James's
rookie year. I want to say maybe it was first
or second year. They were playing the Orlando Magic. This
is how long ago it was. It was when Tracy
McGrady was on the Orlando Magic and I had a
(35:55):
two team parlay. I had the Calves minus two and
a half or I had the calves plus two and
a half and I had the under, So the over
under was like two hundred and two to oh one
something like that, and Cleveland had a one hundred to
ninety seven lead. So on a parlay, you need both
(36:15):
of those to hit in order to get paid. And
I bet one hundred dollars on it. It would have
paid out two sixty. Cleveland had a one hundred to
ninety seven lead. So not only am I winning my
my plus two and a half because I'm getting two
and a half points and they're up by three, not
only am I covering that, but as it stands right now,
the totals at one ninety seven. I'm about to hit
(36:35):
the under and Tracy McGrady shoots a three at the
buzzer and gets fouled, misses the shot, but goes to
the free throw line and hits all three free throws.
And I'm standing with a bus tub in my hand,
a squirt bottle hanging off my apron, holding on to
(36:57):
some paper towels. I'm about to wipe down a party
of eight from thinking to myself, I just worked this
entire shift for free.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
One hundred dollars gone. Man up and vanished like a
fart in the wind. Okay, I've been scarred ever since that,
and that happened like twenty years ago. So when it
comes to financial risk taking, I don't take any chances.
And if I'm Joe Burrow, I'm not waiting around for
(37:26):
Justin Herbert and the Chargers to figure out whether or
not they want to get a deal done.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
And I'm definitely not waiting around to play football any longer,
especially after I suffered a devastating injury a couple of
years ago.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Go to the table, figure out what it is.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Maybe you'll make a little bit less than some of
these other guys, but then you come back in a
couple of years after there's more revenue in the sport
and TV deals get bigger and the Bengals make more money,
and then you can redo the contract. Then me personally,
I'm not waiting around for a damn thing.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
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Speaker 2 (38:05):
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Speaker 5 (38:10):
Good morning, everybody, Good morning Jonas, And in case you
missed this over the weekend. Congratulations are in order for
the Birmingham Stallions winning the second championship for the USFL,
beating out the Pittsburgh Malers twenty eight to twelve. Right,
And in case you did miss that, you might have
missed mister Scooby Wright, also known as Shark Dog, on
the field afterwards, rocking two forties and shouting out, I'm
(38:33):
Edward's forty's hands over here, just getting.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
After so so he was, uh, why were they drinking forties?
By the way, still trying to figure that out. I've
never seen a team celebrate with forties? And were they
OE forties? Were they Old English?
Speaker 5 (38:49):
I wanted to say they because the label was turned.
I wanted to say they were maybe Miller Mgd's, but
they could have been Oh he's.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Let me take a second MGD forty ouncers.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
This is the important stuff here as we break down
the USFL champions That does go down.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
A lot easier than the oees.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, sure, because the Old English was the was the
brand that Petros talked about as a child seeing the
big sign here in LA And there was a big
sign where some guy was wearing dickies holding an old
English forty ounce and for whatever, they're just drinking forties
on the field.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Look, last time I saw, I am correct. They are
Miller Genuine drafts. Okay, so MGD forties. Yes.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
So the last time I saw, for my brother's fortieth birthday,
he like we surprised him with an entire like what
do they call those like ice buckets? But they're like
the aluminum, like the big ones. You bring them outside
like they're not. It's not like a cooler because there's
no lid on them. You just throw them in there
and then you throw a bunch of beer on ice
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or sodas or whatever you're drinking.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
It's almost like a trough.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, so my brother got him, my other brother got
him for his fortieth birthday, a trough of forties and
we got sand blasted. It was just a problem because
you know you're you're trying to you want to get
to you. The whole point is you don't want to
drink it while it's warm, because the bottom of a
(40:15):
forty when it's warm or is nasty. But here's where
the validation comes in. So years ago I made reference
on the show working with Brady Quinn, and I said
Edward forty hands. And he thought I was making that up,
like that's not a real thing, and I told him, no,
it's a real thing.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
He goes, what is Edward forty hands.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Edward forty hands, By the way, don't try this at home,
or if you do, at least film it. Edward forty
hands is where you duct tape. You put forty ouncers
in the freezer until they're just about to freeze over,
and then you duck tape them to your hands and
you have to drink them, and you got to drink
them fast or else you're probably gonna get frostbite. And
(40:57):
so what ends up happening when you when you're pounding
two four, he's real fast. It's again, you know, you
get pretty buckled and uh, and it's kind of the
whole idea of you know, duct taping your hands to
some beer is kind of a and so it's called
Edward forty hands. And he thought I was making that up,
that that wasn't a real thing. And now we've got
a USFL champion on the field celebrating a title talking
(41:20):
about Edward forty hands.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
He cheats by the way he pours the the forties
into his grill.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Oh so he didn't really pound him all the way.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
Well, you know, you only get so much time on
the field. But I think that's technically cheating.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
By the way, it is pretty great. And they're just
drinking forties.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Everybody else drinks champagne, like people are popping champagne.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Champagne of beers.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah, they got where it sended like that is that
is pretty appropriate that they go instead of going champagne,
they go champagne of beers on the field afterwards.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Good for them.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
You know what, you got one of the best Christmas
gifts ever got. My buddy Charlie got me at a
forty koozy with a strap on it.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Really, yeah, they make those. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
It was in the design of like you know, a bandana,
the classic bandana that everybody buys it, you could buy
at the liquor store whatever it is. That was the
style of It was the coolest thing. And of course
I got buckled and lost it.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Like a first time. And it comes with a strap.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
It comes with the strap so you can hold on
tight and you don't freeze your hand.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Hey, that's one of the great things. And I remember
in Vegas back in the day, the Paris Hotel. They
used to have this giant Eiffel tower, like commemorative cup
that you could walk around and drink booze and like whatever.
You would get it outside the Paris Hotel and whatever
concoction you could come up with Long Islands margarita like
whatever it is, and they give you this big giant
(42:39):
Eiffel tower.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
But it comes with like a guitar strap.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
So if you get tired of walking around with this
giant cup, you know that Doubles is the Eiffel Tower,
you got this arm strap so you can just like
let it sit there like you're in between sets.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
It's pretty fantastic.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
You ever rocked the bucket hat with the with the
beer strap with the straws?
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Either, know, Like that's a bit much, all right? Then
what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Like it's it's like it's one thing to be an alcoholic,
it's another thing to be a geek, all right, Like
I'm willing to be one or the other. I'm not
willing to do both simultaneously. And that feels like that's
where we go? What else we got?
Speaker 5 (43:13):
Leave Jonas In case you missed it, Ricky Feller won
the Rocket Mortgage Classic over the weekend. The problem is
fans are really well ticked off because they couldn't quite
watch it. It went into a three player playoff with
Colin Marikawa and Adam had when, of course Rickey Feller won,
but because of inclement weather forcing tea times to be
moved up, fans were more likely to be catching a
(43:36):
tape delay on Golf Channel or the Rodeo Show on CBS.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
So where could they So it was only on stream.
It was only on streaming services. See that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
And I got my balls broken because I brought this
up months ago on the show The goll What what
are you like, some old man? You can't figure out technology.
It's not that I can't figure out technology, but let's
be serious here. It is kind of annoying and it's
kind of a pain in the ass when stuff goes
to streaming or you got to go to an app
on a smart TV to try and find stuff. It
(44:05):
used to be you could just turn on the television.
You could just go.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Man.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Growing up, let me tell you something, we never were
able to find our remote, and then when we did
actually get a new remote, we got this universal remote
and we had to parrot inside that shoot all the
buttons off, so we could never use the remote ever
again because we couldn't actually turn anything. So our dad
would make us stand by the channel and change it manually.
(44:29):
And so, of course I know how to figure out technology,
but it is kind of annoying and kind of a
pain in the ass when you've got to turn off
the TV, go to another outlet. It's got to be
on HDMI one, and then you got to find an app.
If you just went back to the good old days,
none of this would be an issue at all.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Terrible.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Happy beginning of the fourth of July. Holiday to you
and yours out there. Hope everybody's having a good time.
As we talked about, I'm sure you've already fired off
fireworks because that's what people do nowadays. It's not good
enough we can just do it on the fourth. You
got to do it on the first, second, the third,
the fifth, to sixth, and every other day following that, seemingly.
So this is like a four day weekend. People getting
(00:35):
after it, you know, just you know, maybe it's like
a two day barbecue extravaganza and then you're just gonna
be feeling like crap when you go back into work
on Wednesday. But whatever the case is, and if you
are working, welcome to the club. We're all grinding away
here on a Monday morning, so be safe out there.
The weather's heating up. We you know, celebrate friends, family,
(00:57):
good food, and booze, you name it, all the other
funds to come along with it. But we appreciate you
hanging out with us here on this Monday morning. The
big story over the weekend. And I look, I think
you know, I'm not trying. I don't want to point
fingers to start off hour three of the program, But
I mean I would blame you man. I think you're
partly responsible for this. You listening here, I think you
(01:18):
know I'm partly responsible. I think people in the media
are partly responsible. Damian Lillard has officially requested a trade
from the Portland Trailblazers.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
That was a guy who you know, talked about being
loyal and you know, wanted to stay in Portland, and
apparently he wasn't happy with some of the moves that
they had made. But again, I mean, blame yourselves. Look,
you tell these guys their careers don't matter unless they
win a championship. I mean we hear it all the time.
Blame yourselves. Oh, you don't like the Kevin Durant had
to leave, Blame blame yourself. You're the one that made
(01:49):
it that way. You don't like well Lebron did to Cleveland,
you know, with the decision going to Miami. Blame yourself.
You know, we put a premium on champion chips. We
tell everybody, like your career is not isn't as you know,
successful as somebody else's unless you win a championship. And
here we are got another guy who's leaving an organization
(02:10):
he's been with his entire career and he's gone. He
wants out, he wants to go somewhere else. So if
you're a Portland Trailblazer fan, and look, I can understand
why Portland Trailblazer fans would be pissed off.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I got to understand that. I get it. You know,
you look at it and go all right.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Thought you were layer at us, thought you wanted to
stay here, thought you wanted to be a Portland Trailblazer,
and now you're just like everybody else, and now you're
in a bail Okay. I mean I don't mind anybody
wanting to go somewhere like Look, you can leave your
job and go wherever you want. It never bothered me
to Kevin Durant did what he did. It never bothered
me Lebron James did what he did. You know, if
you decide, hey it's time for me to go, I'll go.
(02:53):
But this is all about winning a title. Damian Lillard
wants to win a championship. He wants to win a title,
and he feels like he can't get it done in Portland,
so he's gonna go somewhere else. Now, the odds of
him winning a championship are still long, Like if you
just look at the destinations, there's been the Miami Heat,
the Brooklyn Nets have been thrown out there, the Clippers
(03:14):
were mentioned over the weekend, the seventy six ers. I mean,
I don't know that adding Damian Lillard all of a
sudden makes that team the favorite to win the championship.
I mean, like, you go to Miami, as I mentioned
earlier in the show, like who's to say if Giannis
is healthy? Miami even gets out of that first round
last year. I mean you go to Philly. Yeah, there's
(03:35):
a lot of talent there, apparently you know, James Harden's
not going to be there and Joelle Embiid, like, you know,
you still got some talent there. But it's I mean
still like you got to deal with Boston, you got
to deal with Miami, with Milwaukee, like it just there's
no guarantees. So if all this is is for better
odds at winning a championship, then good luck to him.
(03:59):
I just think part of the problem is we put
too much emphasis on you've got to win a championship
in order to be considered one of the all time
greats or one of the best in your field, when
the reality is a lot of stuff has to go
your way. There's a lot of circumstances that are out there,
and I think too often it's the easiest thing to
(04:19):
do to just recap a guy's career in credentials and go,
did he win a championship? Oh no, he's out. Yeah,
you're out now. I never want a title, You're out.
It's like, okay, well, I mean, if we're gonna play
that game, then you're gonna eliminate a lot of great careers. Like,
if we're gonna play that game, we're gonna eliminate a
lot of guys who did a lot of things. They
just never were able to be on a team that
(04:40):
got some of the breaks that went the other way
to win a championship. And so it's unfortunately. Also, I
would like to say this, this is Miami heat rumor.
I don't buy it at all. It doesn't make any
sense to me. And I'm going on what I've been
told about the Miami Heat, like I was told that
(05:02):
this is an organization built on undrafted players. Like I
was told that for weeks in the postseason, all these
undrafted guys, all these undrafted players. That's what I was told.
That's how they were built. So you mean to tell
me they're going to go ahead and trade away for
Damian Lillard. He doesn't qualify. He was drafted. He does
(05:24):
not qualify for heat culture. He was drafted. It doesn't
make any sense. Again, I'm just going by what I
was told that heat culture is different. They take undrafted
players and they go all the way to the finals.
That's what I was told. So I'm just trying to
play by the rules, the rules of knowledge when it
(05:47):
comes to hashtag heat culture. Damian Lillard was a pretty
high pick in the draft. Yes, he came from a
small school, but he was a high draft pick. I
don't know that he qualifies there. So the fact that
Miami's even through in there, I just think is reckless speculation.
In fact, I think it's uneducated speculation because clearly they
did not listen to any of the commentary and any
(06:09):
of the discussion about heat culture in the playoffs. Otherwise
this would not even be a possibility. Now, if Damian
Lillard was undrafted, then I think he absolutely qualifies to
be a member of the Miami Heat. You know, just
like all the great Heat players from the past that
were also undrafted.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
You know, guys like Shack.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Dwayne Wade, you know, Alonzo Morning, Lebron, Chris Bosh, Jimmy Butler,
you know all those undrafted guys that make up hashtag
Heat culture. Again, just playing by the rules here. This
is what I was force fed for weeks during the playoffs,
(06:51):
So just making sure I'm on the same page. Two
pros and a cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio. Also,
the paranoias is taking place in the with this gambling stuff.
Mike Florio was mentioning this over the weekend that you know,
maybe players, what's to stop them from, you know, going
out and you know, having a family member or somebody
(07:14):
place a wager form if they've got intimate knowledge or
inside information or anything like that. And like, I understand
that this is a new thing and that it's a
bad look for the NFL because you had Calvin Ridley
get pop for gambling, you had members of the Lions
get pop for gambling. Then you had Isaiah Rogers of
(07:37):
the Colts do a thousand dollars bet on a prop
on rushing yards for a cults running back, Like I
get out, Like all the optics are bad, you know,
it's a worse optic than all that being a stalker.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I'd like to not have that optic. In fact, I.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Would rather be too trustworthy than be a stalker personally,
Like if like if you were to ask me, like, hey,
you know kind of really trustworthy, kind of gullible, you know,
I'd rather that than you know, hiding in a closet,
waiting outside your front door tracking devices, hire a private investigator,
(08:19):
like I would just rather Like, I wonder how many
times somebody assumes something bad's going to happen. They're so
paranoid that they hire a private investigator and the private
investigator finds nothing, Like I wonder how many times that's happened.
Like the show Cheaters, they always catch somebody in the act.
(08:39):
I want to know how many of the episodes somebody
just assumed that they're that the other half was cheating
or doing something wrong, and so they sent the camera
crew over there and they just found out that the
guy was like picking up you know, a couple extra
hours at a hotel as like a cleaning person or
like a maintenance guy, like, oh my god, he's at
the hotel again. He's at that little, that shady motel
(09:02):
off the highway again. Must be fooled around. Who's he
no over there? Who's he meeting over there? And then
you walk in, he's got a bare of plyers out
into the sink trying to fix a leak.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
You thought I was fooling around?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Like this paranoia that people have with gambling, in the NFL,
it was always there. They could all players could always
have somebody go place a wager form. It's it's called
being a runner. That's how this used to be done
to where if you want to if you didn't want
to tip off the casinos in the old days, you
(09:36):
would hire a runner. So if you if you wanted
to place like say you didn't even have intimate knowledge
of something or inside information like Isaiah Rodgers had or
any of the NFL players could have, if you wanted
to place a significant wager on a game, and you
(09:57):
knew that if you bet it all in one casino,
it would throw up a red flag and all of
a sudden, people beIN like, okay, what's going on here.
What you would do is you would hire somebody to
go do small amounts at different casinos. So if out
of nowhere, you wanted to put a fifty thousand dollars
bet on a game, just some random baseball game, you know,
(10:18):
it could be raise A's on a Wednesday night, and
say you did have insider information if you wanted to
go bet fifty thousand dollars on that game, that would
flag that casino and they would say, there's something going
on here, that's weird behavior. We normally don't see a
bet like that coming in. It would trigger something and
(10:40):
they would all of a sudden be investigating that, and
that's how you would get caught. So what people used
to do back in the day, and look they probably
still do it now, is they would hire runners to
where instead of betting fifty thousand dollars at one casino,
you would bet ten thousand dollars at a bunch of casinos.
So you'd go to five different casinos or five different
(11:03):
sports books and throw down ten thousand dollars Because ten
thousand dollars isn't gonna throw a red flag. Up as
much as fifty thousand dollars in one place would so
if you spread it out, you can get all your
bets in.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
It was called a runner man. NFL players could have
had that for years. They could have had it for years.
They could have.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Had a runner for every single game they played in,
like if they knew what the game plan was gonna be.
Like this is how, this is how this stuff works.
You can actually bet what the first play of a
game is going to be, whether it's a run or
(11:46):
a pass, or a completed pass or an incomplete like
that is how detailed this is. Like if you're doing,
like if you want to do in game betting on baseball,
there are some places where you can bet what the
next hitch is going to be, curveball, fastball, slider, that's
been there for years. You don't think a player in
(12:09):
the NFL, if they wanted to, if they knew the
game plan and knew, hey, we're gonna run early and often,
you don't think they could hit up one of their
buddies and say, if I were you, I'd go take
forty thousand dollars to as many sports books as you can,
or do it on your gambling app. I would go
on there and I would bet on the prop. What
do we do first play today, first play of the game,
because we're running the football a lot. Okay, no problem,
(12:30):
I'll take it. That stuff could have always been there.
But just because this has popped up recently, there's this
paranoia about what could happen, like what could have players players?
I mean, what's the stopping from doing this? You even
had former players who have gone on social media saying so, wait,
I can do this, but I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
It doesn't make sense. The punishments don't add up.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Like I said it earlier, At some point, you just
got to recognize and just accept the fact and trust
that you're not with a scumbag. Like I would rather
put all of my faith and trust in the person
i'm with then have them catch me hiding under a
(13:15):
coffee table at some hotel when they're on a business
trip because I think they're fooling around behind my back.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I just like you just.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Got to put your I don't want to be a stalker.
I don't want to have to stock people, all right,
I just trust you. If it turns out I got burned,
then I get burned. But at least I don't look
like I'm paranoid, and at least I'm not chasing somebody
away just because I'm assuming the worst. If you're the NFL,
if you're people covering the NFL and this whole gambling
(13:43):
stuff is new to you, just take a step back.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Everybody, relax.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
They could have been doing this stuff a long time
ago and we got through fine, and if we get
another gambling scandal, it's more content for us. Just trust
that you don't have a bunch of scumbags who are
ruining the game by placing bets on it.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
And if they are, throw some of my way.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
You know, I'd love to win a couple of bets
here or there, you know, because I'm losing my ass
the past couple of seasons in the NFL. I don't
know if it's COVID or what, but I can't seem
to figure out the NFL.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
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Speaker 3 (14:31):
Everybody's been waiting around.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Like the two guys that people are waiting on to
make a decision and make a deal are Joe Burrow
and Justin Herbert. One of these guys going to sign
their contract extension because they're going to get paid. And
you know, Cincinnati has been kind of bracing themselves for this.
We've talked about this to where, you know, stadium sponsorship,
you know, they didn't normally do that. You know, now
(14:54):
you can gamble in the state of Ohio, so maybe
you know some of that gambling revenue, you know, throw
a sports book in there in the state. Like whatever
they're trying to think of or whatever they're trying to do,
they're trying to come up with as much cash as
possible because Joe Burrow's their guy. It's been a total success,
and they'd like to hold on to him for the
next twelve to fifteen years and get him paid, get
(15:15):
him locked in, and get the deal done. And then
with Justin Herbert and the Chargers, like he's not going anywhere.
The Chargers have identified he's their franchise quarterback and he's
going to be our guy moving forward. And now you're
just kind of waiting around, you know, these are the
next two and what are we waiting on? And they've
all talked. Joe Burrow and his camp have said, and
the Cincinnati Bengals have kept it pretty close to the vest,
(15:38):
and everybody's been trying to figure out, all right, so
who's going to be the next one to get their
deal done? Jalen Hurts got paid, Lamar Jackson got paid.
Who's going to be the next one? So this discussion
has been going on in Cincinnati for a little while now,
and people have been trying to figure out whether or
not Joe Burrow's going to go first or Justin Herbert's
(16:00):
going to go first. And apparently there's a thinking behind
why Joe Burrow may be waiting this according to Paul Danner,
Junior of The Athletic, who said that part of the
delay in Joe Burrow signing his contract is because he's
waiting on Justin Herbert. Now, all of that would make sense.
(16:26):
You want to see what the other guy settles for
and then you can come over the top. Like all
of that makes sense. I totally get it. But if
it's me, and maybe I'm just playing it safe, and
maybe I'm not, as you know, ballsy or gutsy when
it comes to finances and things like that.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
But if it's me, I'm taking my.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Deal and I'm not really waiting around for the other guy, because,
let's be on, based on the structure of the contract,
you could probably come back in a couple of years
and then redo it again, like Aaron Rodgers when he
got his deal done years ago. All of a sudden,
you look back a couple of years later and Rogers
was like, you know, kind of low on the list
when it comes to quarterbacks making money. And then they
(17:07):
redid it and he's getting what fifty million a year
from the Packers and now onto the Jets. You're just
going to redo the deal. Anyways, after a couple of years.
You would think that's why Patrick Mahomes there's been speculation
about what they're going to do with his contractor Josh
Allen or some of these guys. But Joe Burrow waiting
around potentially for Justin Herbert to get his deal done.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I mean, you know, if.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I'm Burrow, first of all, he's done more than Justin
Herbert as I mean, Justin Herbert's got all the potential
and all the promise in the world. But Joe Burrow's
actually taking his team to a super Bowl. You could
argue maybe they should have won that Super Bowl. He
took him to an AFC title game. He's completely turned
around the entire franchise, Like they've gone from disaster trying
(18:01):
to recover from Andy Dalton. Is Zach Taylor going to
get fired? Do they regret firing Marvin Lewis, etc. Et cetera,
et cetera. And now they're one of the teams in
the NFL that you look at and go, yeah, that
that's a legitimate Super Bowl contender. I mean, they've ruined
the Buffalo Bills, Like Buffalo's not been the same since
(18:21):
that playoff game. Stefan Diggs doesn't know whether or not
he wants to be on the team anymore. He's, you know,
fighting with somebody. Is it Josh Allen? Is it the
head coach? Like what Cincinnati's They've completely changed the course
of the AFC for at least one franchise. So Joe
Burrow's their guy, like Justin Herbert. Yeah, I mean he's
(18:44):
still got, you know, things he needs to accomplish, like
winning a playoff game and all the other fun stuff.
So he's gonna get paid. But Joe Burrow definitely deserves
to get paid. And if he's waiting around for Justin Herbert,
me personally, I'm getting.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
My deal done. I'm not waiting for anybody.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
If he ends up being making more money than me
the first couple of years of the deal, and I
got to go back after year three or four and
redo the contract with Cincinnati, then I'll do that. But
the idea that he's waiting around for Justin I would
get my deal done. And on top of that, and
this sort of gets lost in the shuffle. Joe Burrow
suffered a pretty nasty knee injury his first year that
(19:20):
cut his rookie season short, where he tore a couple
of ligaments, and to I give anybody knows the mortality
of your NFL career, Joe Burrow suffered a devastating knee
injury year one. You would think that would be somebody
who doesn't want to take any chances and wants to
go and get a deal done. It's why would Lamar
(19:41):
Jackson was playing the game with the Baltimore Ravens trying
to get his contract done. I'm thinking to myself, dude,
you've had your career. You know mortality stare your square
in the eyes a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Already.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
You're a mobile quarterback, You've suffered, You've been banged up
and injured multiple times in your career. Why would you
not want to get a deal done now? I play
it safe, all right. When we talk about betting on
sports legitimately, and I'm not making this up. When I
complain about bets that I lose, they're five and ten dollars.
(20:16):
I don't have the guts to bet significant money on
a game because it'll drive me nuts. Because I can
remember being a bus boy at TGI Fridays and betting
a one hundred dollars parlay. It was I think Lebron
James's rookie year. I want to say maybe it was
(20:36):
first or second year. They were playing the Orlando Magic.
This is how long ago it was. It was when
Tracy McGrady was on the Orlando Magic and I had
a two team parlay. I had the Calves minus two
and a half, or I had the Calves plus two
and a half and I had the under. So the
(20:57):
over under was like two hundred and two oh one
something like that, and Cleveland had a one hundred to
ninety seven lead, So on a parlay, you need both
of those to hit in order to get paid, and
I bet one hundred dollars on it it would have
paid out two sixty. Cleveland had a one hundred to
ninety seven lead. So not only am I winning my
(21:18):
plus two and a half because I'm getting two and
a half points and they're up by three, not only
am I covering that, but as it stands right now,
the totals at one ninety seven. I'm about to hit
the under and Tracy McGrady shoots a three at the
buzzer and gets fouled, misses the shot, but goes to
the free throw line and hits all three free throws.
(21:39):
And I'm standing with a bus tub in my hand,
a squirt bottle hanging off my apron, holding on to
some paper towels. I'm about to wipe down a party
of eight from thinking to myself, I just worked this
entire shift for free, one hundred dollars, gone man up
(22:00):
and vanished like a fart in the wind. Okay, I've
been scarred ever since that, and that happened like twenty
years ago. So when it comes to financial risk, taking
I don't take any chances. And if I'm Joe Burrow,
I'm not waiting around for Justin Herbert and the Chargers
to figure out whether or not they want to get.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
A deal done.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And I'm definitely not waiting around to play football any longer,
especially after I suffered a devastating injury a couple of
years ago. Go to the table, figure out what it is.
Maybe you'll make a little bit less than some of
these other guys, but then you come back in a
couple of years after there's more revenue in the sport
and TV deals get bigger and the Bengals make more money,
(22:41):
and then you can redo the contract. Then me, personally,
I'm the waiting around for a damn thing. Jonas Knox Here,
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And who the hell knows?
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now here from those tiraq dot com studios. Hey, look,
another strike in downtown La.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Well, it's like.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Every day there's like some sort of worker strike, Like
every day, I just I don't. I mean, look, you
drive into the studio. Here, there's the Sherman Oaks Gallery
for people listening across the country, all right, to just
see you understand where the studio was located, these tire
raq dot com studios. It's right off the freeway, so
(24:17):
you get right off the freeway and then you know,
you go you hang a right or depending on where
you're coming from, and then it's right across from this
giant shopping center called the Sherman Oaks Galleria. And I
believe that's the where they filmed the move. Was it
Fast Time a Ridgemont High Lee? That's the move that
was filmed there that I still have never seen it.
(24:37):
I don't know it's right. I just I've never said
I don't know why. But if you come here to
the studio on a Saturday, I don't remember the last
time that I didn't see some sort of a protest
or somebody on strike. I swear to god, I don't
remember the last time that happened. And I don't know
when this all started, if it was you know, COVID,
(24:58):
or if it was you know, people tie, you know,
they needed to be outdoors or whatever the case may be.
But it just feels like there's a writer strike, now,
there's some hotel workers strike, and just feel like everybody
like there's some sort of a strike going on at
all times. So that's one thing. Here's the other thing.
I love how people aren't happy with just one day.
(25:20):
They got to spread everything out.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
It's like you ever talk to somebody who celebrates like
a birthday weekend or a birthday month. Like there's some
people that are like, oh my god, it's my birthday month.
All right, your birthday's on the thirtieth. We're doing this
for four weeks really like you just it's my birthday week. No,
you get a birthday. You don't get birthdays, right. It's
(25:43):
not like when you know, you know, your your mom
was going through the process at like eleven forty five
at night. Oh we see that. Here comes all right,
so okay that the head is out. Everything is safe
so far, and the mom said, okay, we hold on
a second, give me like another twenty minutes. I want
to make sure my child can have a couple of
(26:05):
birthdays here. It's gonna be we'll do we'll do the
just the head and upper torso, and then we'll do
the legs. Uh, you know, when it passed midnight, So
that way we can get two birthdays going on here.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
It's really important. Let's go ahead and spread this stuff out.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
It's like these people that go, oh, it's my birthday month,
my birthday week, but it's starting to bleed over into
fourth of July. I've noticed, cause you bastards, you're just
not content with fireworks on the fourth of July.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
No no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
It's got to start on the first, the second, the third,
it's gonna be the fifth, it's gonna be the sixth.
Then you're gonna have some left over. You're gonna fire
those off on the seventh. Like is enough's enough? Just stop?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
All right?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Dogs don't like it. It freaks kids out and it's
not cool. Like there's people in my neighborhood that are
lighting off like mortar bombs. Like what do we It's
like a Sunday night at six pm and they're lighting
off mortar bombs. Well, it's fourth of July season. No no,
it's just fourth of July. It's not an entire season.
(27:12):
It's not a week, it's not a month. It's just
a day. And the day generally goes like this. People
wake up, they prep their food, they have an early cocktail,
they throw the food, you know, on the grill. If
they're smoking something, it's got to sit there for a
significant amount of time. Then maybe you go swimming, then
(27:34):
maybe you run around and play. You'll watch some baseball,
have a couple of more beers, this and that, and
then at the end of the night, then the fireworks start.
And then maybe after the fireworks, you have a couple
of more cocktails and your roast some marshmallows, and it's
cool every day like it just it seems like there's
a process here. It's like a six or seven step process.
(27:54):
But that's not good enough, because ua hole's got to
light off fireworks all week long. I don't know when
that started. I don't know when everybody started to get greedy.
But you should be ashamed of yourself, all right, buy
the proper amount of fireworks so you don't feel like
you got to spread these out over the course of
several days and just let them blow off on fourth
(28:16):
of July and then we move on with our lives.
But it's not gonna happen today. What is gonna happen.
They're gonna fire more off coming up later on today.
And I'm telling you, mark my words. July fifth, right
when you think it's a work week. Now, we can
focus on getting our stuff done. Some clown is going
to fire off some sort of a mortar bomb or
a piccolo pete in your mailbox because they're too drunk,
(28:39):
because they've got a cooler of beer left over from
the holiday, and they want to make sure that they
get all this stuff out of their system because they
want to be able to focus on Labor Day. I'm
telling you right now, it's gonna happen. Just get ready.
That's what Fourth of July is turned into. That and
that slob Joey Chestnuts shoving food in his mouth in
front of thousands of people on TV.
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Speaker 3 (29:39):
So there was some everybody's been waiting around.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Like the two guys that people are waiting on to
make a decision and make a deal are Joe Burrow
and Justin Herbert. One of these guys going to sign
their contract extension because they're going to get paid. And
you know, Cincinnati has been kind of bracing themselves for this.
We've talked about this to where, you know, stadium sponsorship.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
You know, they didn't normally do that.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
You know, now you can gamble in the state of Ohio,
so maybe you know some of that gambling revenue, you know,
throw a sports book in there in the state. Like
whatever they're trying to think of or whatever they're trying
to do, they're trying to come up with as much
cash as possible because Joe Burrows their guy. It's been
a total success and they'd like to hold on to
him for the next twelve fifteen years and get him paid,
(30:24):
get him locked in, and get the deal done. And
then with Justin Herbert and the Chargers, like he's not
going anywhere. The Chargers have identified he's their franchise quarterback
and he's going to be our guy moving forward. And
now you're just kind of waiting around. You know, these
are the next two and what are we waiting on?
And they've all talked, Joe Burrow and his camp have said,
and the Cincinnati Bengals have kept it pretty close to
(30:46):
the vest, and everybody's been trying to figure out, all right,
so who's going to be the next one to get
their deal done? Jalen Hurts got paid, Lamar Jackson got paid.
Who's going to be the next one? So this discussion
has been going on in Cincinnati for a little while now,
and people have been trying to figure out whether or
not Joe Burrow's going to go first or Justin Herbert's
(31:09):
going to go first. And apparently there's a thinking behind
why Joe Burrow may be waiting this according to Paul Danner,
Junior of The Athletic, who said that part of the
delay in Joe Burrow signing his contract is because he's
waiting on Justin Herbert. Now, all of that would make sense.
(31:35):
You want to see what the other guy settles for,
and then you can come over the top. Like all
of that makes sense, I totally get it. But if
it's me, and maybe I'm just playing it safe, and
maybe I'm not as you know, ballsy or gutsy when
it comes to finances and things like that. But if
it's me, I'm taking my deal and I'm not really
waiting around for the other guy, because, let's be based
(31:58):
on the structure of the contract, you can probably come
back in a couple of years and then redo it again,
like Aaron Rodgers when he got his deal done years ago.
All of a sudden, you look back a couple of
years later and Rodgers was like, you know, kind of
low on the list when it comes to quarterbacks making money.
And then they redid it and he's getting what fifty
(32:18):
million a year from the Packers and now onto the Jets.
You're just going to redo the deal. Anyways, after a
couple of years, you would think that's why Patrick Mahomes
there's been speculation about what they're going to do with
his contractor Josh Allen or some of these guys. But
Joe Burrow waiting around potentially for Justin Herbert to get
his deal done. I mean, you know, if I'm Burrow.
(32:42):
First of all, He's done more than Justin Herbert as
I mean, Justin Herbert's got all the potential and all
the promise in the world. But Joe Burrow's actually taking
his team to a super Bowl. You could argue maybe
they should have won that Super Bowl. He took him
to an AFC title game, completely turned around the entire franchise.
(33:06):
Like they've gone from disaster trying to recover from Andy Dalton.
Is Zach Taylor going to get fired? Do they regret
firing Marvin Lewis, etc. Et cetera, et cetera. And now
they're one of the teams in the NFL that you
look at and go, yeah, that that's a legitimate Super
Bowl contender. I mean, they've ruined the Buffalo Bills, Like
(33:28):
Buffalo's not been the same since that playoff game. Stefan
Diggs doesn't know whether or not he wants to be
on the team anymore. He's, you know, fighting with somebody.
Is it Josh Allen? Is it the head coach?
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Like what.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Cincinnati's They've completely changed the course of the AFC for
at least one franchise. So Joe Burrow's their guy, Like
Justin Herbert. Yeah, I mean he's still got, you know,
things he needs to accomplish, like winning a playoff game
and all the other fun stuff. So he's going to
get paid. But Joe Burr definitely deserves to get paid.
(34:01):
And if he's waiting around for Justin Herbert, me personally,
I'm getting.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
My deal done. I'm not waiting for anybody.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
If he ends up being making more money than me
the first couple of years of the deal and I
got to go back after year three or four and
redo the contract with Cincinnati, then I'll do that. But
the idea that he's waiting around for Justin or I
would get my deal done. And on top of that,
and this sort of gets lost in the shuffle. Joe
Burrow suffered a pretty nasty knee injury his first year
(34:28):
that cut his rookie season short, where he tore a
couple of ligaments, and to I give anybody knows the
mortality of your NFL career, Joe Burrow suffered a devastating
knee injury year one. You would think that would be
somebody who doesn't want to take any chances and wants
to go and get a deal done. It's why would
(34:49):
Lamar Jackson was playing the game with the Baltimore Ravens
trying to get his contract done. I'm thinking to myself, Dude,
you've had your career. You know mortality stere your square
in the eyes a couple of times already. You're a
mobile quarterback, You've suffered, You've been banged up and injured
multiple times in your career. Why would you not want
to get a deal done now? I play it safe,
(35:13):
all right. When we talk about betting on sports legitimately,
and I'm not making this up. When I complain about
bets that I lose, they're five and ten dollars. I
don't have the guts to bet significant money on a
game because it'll drive me nuts. Because I can remember
(35:33):
being a bus boy at TGI Fridays and betting a
one hundred dollars parlay. It was I think Lebron James's
rookie year. I want to say maybe it was first
or second year. They were playing the Orlando Magic. This
is how long ago it was. It was when Tracy
McGrady was on the Orlando Magic and I had a
(35:55):
two team parlay. I had the Calves minus two and
a half or I had the calves plus two and
a half and I had the under, So the over
under was like two hundred and two to oh one
something like that, and Cleveland had a one hundred to
ninety seven lead. So on a parlay, you need both
(36:15):
of those to hit in order to get paid. And
I bet one hundred dollars on it. It would have
paid out two sixty. Cleveland had a one hundred to
ninety seven lead. So not only am I winning my
my plus two and a half because I'm getting two
and a half points and they're up by three, not
only am I covering that, but as it stands right now,
the totals at one ninety seven. I'm about to hit
(36:35):
the under and Tracy McGrady shoots a three at the
buzzer and gets fouled, misses the shot, but goes to
the free throw line and hits all three free throws.
And I'm standing with a bus tub in my hand,
a squirt bottle hanging off my apron, holding on to
(36:57):
some paper towels. I'm about to wipe down a party
of eight from thinking to myself, I just worked this
entire shift for free.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
One hundred dollars gone. Man up and vanished like a
fart in the wind. Okay, I've been scarred ever since that,
and that happened like twenty years ago. So when it
comes to financial risk taking, I don't take any chances.
And if I'm Joe Burrow, I'm not waiting around for
(37:26):
Justin Herbert and the Chargers to figure out whether or
not they want to get a deal done.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
And I'm definitely not waiting around to play football any longer,
especially after I suffered a devastating injury a couple of
years ago.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Go to the table, figure out what it is.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Maybe you'll make a little bit less than some of
these other guys, but then you come back in a
couple of years after there's more revenue in the sport
and TV deals get bigger and the Bengals make more money,
and then you can redo the contract. Then me personally,
I'm not waiting around for a damn thing.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing, the guys are here to
bring you. In case you missed.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
It, and for that we turned it over to our
executive producer, Lead Lap.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
Good morning, everybody, Good morning Jonas, And in case you
missed this over the weekend. Congratulations are in order for
the Birmingham Stallions winning the second championship for the USFL,
beating out the Pittsburgh Malers twenty eight to twelve. Right,
And in case you did miss that, you might have
missed mister Scooby Wright, also known as Shark Dog, on
the field afterwards, rocking two forties and shouting out, I'm
(38:33):
Edward's forty's hands over here, just getting.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
After so so he was, uh, why were they drinking forties?
By the way, still trying to figure that out. I've
never seen a team celebrate with forties? And were they
OE forties? Were they Old English?
Speaker 5 (38:49):
I wanted to say they because the label was turned.
I wanted to say they were maybe Miller Mgd's, but
they could have been Oh he's.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Let me take a second MGD forty ouncers.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
This is the important stuff here as we break down
the USFL champions That does go down.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
A lot easier than the oees.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, sure, because the Old English was the was the
brand that Petros talked about as a child seeing the
big sign here in LA And there was a big
sign where some guy was wearing dickies holding an old
English forty ounce and for whatever, they're just drinking forties
on the field.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Look, last time I saw, I am correct. They are
Miller Genuine drafts. Okay, so MGD forties. Yes.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
So the last time I saw, for my brother's fortieth birthday,
he like we surprised him with an entire like what
do they call those like ice buckets? But they're like
the aluminum, like the big ones. You bring them outside
like they're not. It's not like a cooler because there's
no lid on them. You just throw them in there
and then you throw a bunch of beer on ice
(39:51):
or sodas or whatever you're drinking.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
It's almost like a trough.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, so my brother got him, my other brother got
him for his fortieth birthday, a trough of forties and
we got sand blasted. It was just a problem because
you know you're you're trying to you want to get
to you. The whole point is you don't want to
drink it while it's warm, because the bottom of a
(40:15):
forty when it's warm or is nasty. But here's where
the validation comes in. So years ago I made reference
on the show working with Brady Quinn, and I said
Edward forty hands. And he thought I was making that up,
like that's not a real thing, and I told him, no,
it's a real thing.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
He goes, what is Edward forty hands.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Edward forty hands, By the way, don't try this at home,
or if you do, at least film it. Edward forty
hands is where you duct tape. You put forty ouncers
in the freezer until they're just about to freeze over,
and then you duck tape them to your hands and
you have to drink them, and you got to drink
them fast or else you're probably gonna get frostbite. And
(40:57):
so what ends up happening when you when you're pounding
two four, he's real fast. It's again, you know, you
get pretty buckled and uh, and it's kind of the
whole idea of you know, duct taping your hands to
some beer is kind of a and so it's called
Edward forty hands. And he thought I was making that up,
that that wasn't a real thing. And now we've got
a USFL champion on the field celebrating a title talking
(41:20):
about Edward forty hands.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
He cheats by the way he pours the the forties
into his grill.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Oh so he didn't really pound him all the way.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
Well, you know, you only get so much time on
the field. But I think that's technically cheating.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
By the way, it is pretty great. And they're just
drinking forties.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Everybody else drinks champagne, like people are popping champagne.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Champagne of beers.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah, they got where it sended like that is that
is pretty appropriate that they go instead of going champagne,
they go champagne of beers on the field afterwards.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Good for them.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
You know what, you got one of the best Christmas
gifts ever got. My buddy Charlie got me at a
forty koozy with a strap on it.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Really, yeah, they make those. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
It was in the design of like you know, a bandana,
the classic bandana that everybody buys it, you could buy
at the liquor store whatever it is. That was the
style of It was the coolest thing. And of course
I got buckled and lost it.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Like a first time. And it comes with a strap.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
It comes with the strap so you can hold on
tight and you don't freeze your hand.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Hey, that's one of the great things. And I remember
in Vegas back in the day, the Paris Hotel. They
used to have this giant Eiffel tower, like commemorative cup
that you could walk around and drink booze and like whatever.
You would get it outside the Paris Hotel and whatever
concoction you could come up with Long Islands margarita like
whatever it is, and they give you this big giant
(42:39):
Eiffel tower.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
But it comes with like a guitar strap.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
So if you get tired of walking around with this
giant cup, you know that Doubles is the Eiffel Tower,
you got this arm strap so you can just like
let it sit there like you're in between sets.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
It's pretty fantastic.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
You ever rocked the bucket hat with the with the
beer strap with the straws?
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Either, know, Like that's a bit much, all right? Then
what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Like it's it's like it's one thing to be an alcoholic,
it's another thing to be a geek, all right, Like
I'm willing to be one or the other. I'm not
willing to do both simultaneously. And that feels like that's
where we go? What else we got?
Speaker 5 (43:13):
Leave Jonas In case you missed it, Ricky Feller won
the Rocket Mortgage Classic over the weekend. The problem is
fans are really well ticked off because they couldn't quite
watch it. It went into a three player playoff with
Colin Marikawa and Adam had when, of course Rickey Feller won,
but because of inclement weather forcing tea times to be
moved up, fans were more likely to be catching a
(43:36):
tape delay on Golf Channel or the Rodeo Show on CBS.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
So where could they So it was only on stream.
It was only on streaming services. See that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
And I got my balls broken because I brought this
up months ago on the show The goll What what
are you like, some old man? You can't figure out technology.
It's not that I can't figure out technology, but let's
be serious here. It is kind of annoying and it's
kind of a pain in the ass when stuff goes
to streaming or you got to go to an app
on a smart TV to try and find stuff. It
(44:05):
used to be you could just turn on the television.
You could just go.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Man.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Growing up, let me tell you something, we never were
able to find our remote, and then when we did
actually get a new remote, we got this universal remote
and we had to parrot inside that shoot all the
buttons off, so we could never use the remote ever
again because we couldn't actually turn anything. So our dad
would make us stand by the channel and change it manually.
(44:29):
And so, of course I know how to figure out technology,
but it is kind of annoying and kind of a
pain in the ass when you've got to turn off
the TV, go to another outlet. It's got to be
on HDMI one, and then you got to find an app.
If you just went back to the good old days,
none of this would be an issue at all.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Terrible.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
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