August 3, 2023 • 51 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys celebrate the kickoff to the NFL season with the Hall of Fame games and share stories of this year's class including Joe Thomas, Darrelle Revis and Zach Thomas. The NFL is adopting kickoff rules from college football and looking ahead to rules from the XFL. And Senior NFL Reporter for TheMMQB, Albert Breer joins the guys from the middle of his Training Camp Tour.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with LaVar arrings, Rating Win and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Do you guys see that in the sky earlier? So
like there was a no, no, no for real, So
there was this you know, we were all kind of navigating.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Throughout in Congress and stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, yeah, that stuff's real at this point. They're just
acknowledging that. Or they're trying to get us to look
in the other direction because yeah, or something like that.
But if you looked up into the sky, it was
pitch black for a long time, total darkness, and we've
been looking around for our long lost friend. And guess
what happened? They shot up a flair. You know that
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flair is It's the damn Hall of Fame game. It's
the damn Hall of Fame game. Because football is right
on the brink. It is not that much farther. We
just got to travel a little bit further. But don't
worry about it. This is the first sign that the
NFL is back, and we got a damn NFL game
coming up later on tonight. Who's not fired up about it?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Come on, I can't wait.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I'm excited to see some of the younger guys get
some gets a burn time and.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Play yeah yeah, burn time, baby time. Yeah. And it's
gonna involve the Cleveland Browns and the New York Gets
Now zero chance we see either starting quarterback for this
Rogers is a no go and then old Massage Watson
not happening or what what are we looking at here?
Has that already been announced for the Cleveland Browns? Has it?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I don't enough for rest? Why why wouldn't you get
a couple reps?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Like one one one one one series?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, who knows? But the point is, this is the point.
This is right letting everybody know that we are right
around the corner and there's gonna be a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Of There's gonna be a lot of solid you know.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well, there's gonna be a lot of people that try
and dismiss it and say, well, yeah, these starters are
just preseasons.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
It starts on playing.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, what would you rather do?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
It's a game though, gamble on pre season?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
You know football players who wants yikes, hey, crop circles
and sports books. That's what I was known for.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
They're not doing it, and their moms are at least
it's in their mom's name.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
On a personal note, I'm excited for it because the
Hall of Fame Game obviously is the segue to the
Hall of Fame induction. And for me, you know, being
drafted next to a guy in Joe Thomas, getting to
know Joe and just the player he was, the person
he is, it's an exciting moment.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
He would have never said that, you know, he thought
he was maybe a Hall of Fame player, probably until
that the end of his career when it was pretty
obvious what he was accomplishing.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
But I met him back in high.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
School in the US Army All American Game, and I
remember how good he was back then, how different he
approached things as you know, a kid in high school
going into college. He just was kind of built for it,
like you kind of see child prodigies and the way
that they handled themselves, their technique, the way they move,
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and he was one of those guys that just was
not going to be deterred. I mean, played with twelve
thousand consecutive snaps whatever it was during his time in Cleveland.
I mean, he just the way he prepared his body,
the way he prepared mentally, that type of talent that
he was as a tackle.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
He was just one of those guys you kind.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Of saw him, were like, all right, that guy's different,
you know, and you knew he was going to be
special when he got the league.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
So he gets inducted into it.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
For Browns fans, I think it's a you know, hopefully
maybe you know what is to come, and I have aspirations,
high aspirations for the team. But it's an awesome moment
obviously for Joe and his family, but but for Browns fans,
you know, having something looked forward to as well this weekend.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Know, for me, isn't isn't Res in this class?
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's uh yeah, that's that's that's
why it's it means a lot to me.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I mean, he's from Quick Town.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
I mean it's always one of those things for me
when I'm watching the Hall of Fame, it's always bitter sweet. Yeah,
no doubt it's it's always it's always a bittersweet.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Deal for me. Yeah, it is. It is Allen.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
And and you know that's that's there's so much tradition
that Al Equippa with with ty Law and his his
uncle Sean Gilbert, and it's it's a it's it's so
much talent that has come from that area, in particular
from from where I'm from. Even though they're not for
one tours, I don't believe. I'm pretty certain there's seven
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two four's they're they're not the city, they're actually their
own city, I believe. Al yeah, yeah, so, but I digress. Uh,
Darrell Reeves outside of of Prime, y'all are in jerks
right now. Outside of Dion Sanders. I honestly believe Darrel
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reebas is the greatest cover, single coverage man, up coverage
corner to ever play the game.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Better than Jason C.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Horn.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Come on, oh, okay, we're gonna be in.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Real sty He brought a name you didn't see probably should.
I mean, that's up for debate. You know, that's up
for debate.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I didn't to.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Play against Darrell Reeves college and NFL. The one thing
I'd say he always made you do, aside from all
the skill and technique and football IQ that he displayed,
was you always felt uncomfortable. You know, if you were
dumb enough to throw his way, he always made you
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feel uncomfortable, like you couldn't make a confident throw because
how he was playing the receiver, how he was playing
the ball. You just felt like there was nowhere to
really put the ball. And that's obviously a credit to him.
Like if you can if you can stop a quarterback
or even throwing the ball in your direction, there's something
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to be said for that, you know. And obviously his
his production says enough where you know when you can
pick off or or have enough PBUs and and all
that you get to a point where, like guys like
there's no point in trying to, you know, test that matchup.
But there's other times you might try to throw it
him and it's like you just can't put a ball
in a spot where he can't get to it, or
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you don't feel like.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
He's got a shot of picking it off. And that
was obviously credit to him and his game and how
it evolved over time.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Yeah, and obviously Zach Thomas is somebody that I followed since.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
College and took way too long.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
I just you know, he's he's one of the greats
and one of the great dudes. Like I got an
opportunity to get to know him pretty well through the years.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Just a great dude, man.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
And that's that's the thing about to me, what the
Hall of Fame should and does represent so many times
is it's an opportunity to highlight how great these men are,
not just how great they were on the football field
and their accolades and their accomplishments as football players and
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as athletes, but the type of people that they are. Like,
I got emotional when they announced Zach because I you know,
you could tell how much that it meant for him
to get in and at what that representation to him,
What it meant, I mean, Zach was always an underdog,
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you know, undersized, not as fast like you name it.
It was that like if you don't check off the box.
Zach was never est of anything. He wasn't the tallest,
he wasn't the biggest, he wasn't the fastest, he wasn't
the strongest. But he was a consummate professional on and
off the field, very reveale, very very respected, and you know,
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he'll be a great addition to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Family man. He's you know, I'm super happy for him.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
DeMarcus Ware is also getting in as well, too, great career,
four time All Pro, almost one hundred and forty sacks
in his career. You just look at the list of
guys that are getting it just it is. It's also
an indication that you know, we're getting a little older
because you can remember those guys playing in their prime.
Rondez Barber is also in, Don Coryel, Joe Klecko, ro
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It's so weird yo, Ken Riley and then Chuck Howley
as well too is going to be in. So yeah,
this is a a fun class. You know what, I've
always wondered this about just offensive linemen, Like how do
you really determine who's had a Hall of Fame career
other than number of all pros and reputation? Like it
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just it feels like there's no statistical category or you
can point to with an offensive lineman. Is there a
pancake category? Is there?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
You know?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Is it sacks allowed? Like I've always wondered, like there
are probably offensive linemen out there that are deserving to
get in but don't get in. And the fact that
Joe Thomas was a no brainer first time on the ballot,
and that guy unquestionably was going to be a Hall
of Famer, it just goes to show to your point,
Brady the reputation he had going all the way back
to high school and then it just carried on into
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the pros and people just said, yeah, he's good. It's
might like Quentin Nelson. Quentin Nelson, you just know, Yeah,
there's no real statistical category to go with it. This
guy's probably going to be a Hall of Famer Zack Martin,
same thing at this time.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah, I mean it it comes down to, obviously, I
think the track record because when you look at Lineman,
the stats are looking at you know, it's it's how healthy.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Were they were able to play through injury?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Like that was one of the things that I think
for Joe was big because you're not going to be
able to get those accolades if you're not out there
in the field. And so yeah, there's no stats tied
to them. You can look at like PFF grades or
something like that, but PFF grades are just going to
really give you a sense of, yeah, we're all seeing
the same thing on film.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
He's a dominant player.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Guys aren't getting by him in pass rush, he's covering
guys up in the run game.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
You know, all those things are true with Joe.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
What I think is interesting because you know, it is
funny that you bring that up, because in other positions
there are stats that matter, and if you have those
stats and you want a super Bowl, you're in right.
And even though it's like the ultimate team sport, winning
a Super Bowl takes a ton of different variables to
factor in to make it happen. One of the biggest
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ones probably luck. And I know people hate hearing that,
but it's the truth. You could look at anyone's Super
Bowl season and look at the luck that had played
out at various points, whether it's avoiding injury, whether it's
a call is here, a call there, the ball bouncing
your way. There's so many things that playoff factor into it,
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maybe even just the you know, happenstance of being able
to get the right player at the right time.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
But you know, for for Lineman, it doesn't factor in
that way.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I did an interview yesterday talking to some folks in
Cleveland about Joe and just his his journey, and they
talked a lot about how he stayed in Cleveland. You know,
he never pushed to leave, and towards the end of
started to take its toll on him.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
You know, the losing started to take its toll on him.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
And the hard thing for us is the best season
he ever experienced was when we first got there. We
went ten and six, didn't make the playoffs. Tony dungeye
that that last game of the season in two thousand
and seven and decided to rest all his starters, which
basically ended up you know, giving I can't remember who
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it was the win now.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Ultimately, like we didn't look at it that way. In
our locker room, We're like, we got we got to
control the games we play. We obviously didn't win the
right ten games.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
You can't put your hope in someone else and hoping
that you know, they win a game or they play
their starters.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So we get in.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
But I remember like talk with Joe and talking with
a lot of guys in that see we thought that
was the start of something and then it gets all
blown up in year two. And I think one of
the toughest parts about Joe and his career and just
his time in Cleveland was it never got better.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Like it never got better.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
It was it was a scenario where there was constant turnover,
the change in ownership, you know, coach after coach, GM
after GM, and there were some long dark years on
that whole one and you know what thirty one and
thirty one two years, you know, spam and he kept
playing a high level. He kept going out there and
playing even though he's playing through some injuries. Didn't necessarily
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need to or have to. It's those sorts of quote
unquote stats if you will, data points, whatever you wanna
call them, that I think helped tell the story of alignment.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
And it's just a unique position. But that's that's ultimately.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
You know, how they're judged, how they're graded is based on,
you know, their sacrifice to the game a lot of
times with which the way they play it. You know,
it's a combination of those things.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It was the Titans over the Colts game. It was
Jim Sorgi got the start for Indianapolis and that it
was I mean, should be ashamed of yourself, of our
opportunity for them to go to the playoffs and carry
Collins does it for the Titans starting quarterback for the
Titans that day.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Myself the Penn Stator, Yeah, it was a little bit
of a reach by judges, just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Why not reach a little bit?
Speaker 5 (13:49):
It has to do with Penn State. There's only one
thing that's ever made me ashamed of Penn State, Chile.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
All Right, if I reached, you jumped across the table,
that that.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Was I was being honest, you were reaching. I was
just being honest. I mean, actually I appreciate your honesty.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Ar.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, I wish it would have brought that up. It's
kind of like a what do you how do you
pivot from that? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Yeah, well we just ta it right into a red
and get to the break.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Damn as we do this show for the Tirack dot
com studios. Yeah, weird man, Yeah, weird. By the way, Lee,
can we can we confirm that al Equippa is it's
is it seven to four?
Speaker 5 (14:35):
It's not its own it's like surrounding areas of Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Who's confirming this? League?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah? What would it take?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
An hour?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh? Come on, exact like he's waiting in the airport
or something.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
He might be.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
We'll get it done. But we are going to have
the usuals coming up later on. We got another edition
of In case you missed it, We've got you any
you out. Albert Brear is going to stop by, we'll
talk NFL. He's on his training camp tour We're also
gonna have baby very special edition of over Unders for
the Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Did you confirm that LaVar's seven to four? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Well can you confirm that? Double confirmation? Yeah, two sores.
You look it up for double sour.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
T.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Thank you, Lee, thank you for believe off on it.
I mean professionally, that's the sports radio.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I mean, he wouldn't be doing his job if he
didn't confirm it.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
So, which I'm not trying to throw you under the bus,
but sometimes based on your conduct, it cracks me up. Yeah,
I'm just saying, yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Would have what he does, you know, and then like, oh,
we need we need lead to sign off with a
TPS report.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
You're going, Lee, he's gonna sign.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Off that he's just when he's with todd Man. If
we can keep him away from todd we we get
prime time great, a Hall Hall of Fame worthy Lee
and the radio bit. But when he's around todd Man, his.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
His level go. He slows up a little bit. Man.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Like it's it's always loading, you know, it never loads
super quickly.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, it's always buffer. I think I have I have
a thought on why that is. But I also think
it's very accurate.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yeah, they said there's a movie out of him and Lee,
Him and Todd document They've had food at every single
Margaritaville or something like that.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, you see that. Yeah, let me tell you something.
Bill and Ted's excellent adventure. Highly underrated. In fact, I
would argue one of Keanu Reeves's better roles all right,
when you get right, when you come to know who
the guy is Todd. Yeah, one of his better roles
Party time Wait. Also filmed not far from you, LeVar
in San Demus. They go to the water parking.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Side, right down the street.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, so there's that.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
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Speaker 2 (17:10):
So the NFL, and obviously we have the Hall of
Fame game coming up later on tonight. The NFL's got
this new kickoff rule where I made it just slowly
but surely it's like that guy who moves down to
the basement and the movie The Off or office Space,
whatever it's called, where they just slowly start to close
them in a little more, and close them in a
little more, and they're just trying to squeeze him out.
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And it feels like that's what they're going out to
the NFL with the kickoff rule and the adjustments and
the fair catch inside the goal line and.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
The twenty five years to squeeze it on out.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Jesus, what the last Like yesterday, Like I had to
squeeze out a last couple of reps.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You know, stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
You know a little bit of time before you had
to go drive and be driving as daisies around to
sports and stuff like that. Like there's always moments of
trying to squeeze a little bit more of it.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Out and somebody calls some people call that to failure. Yeah, yeah,
you want to take it all the way to failure
or your body gives out And just as I've had
enough that way.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
You love weightlifting? Are you really like a big weightlifter?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I don't know if I'm I mean not technically, I mean,
look at me. Can't really be a big weightlifter if
you're not lifting back.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Well, that's not necessarily true, because there are a lot
like if you look at like some military dudes. They
lift like crazy and they don't look like they're like
they're not like super muscle bound because they don't lift
for muscle boundness. They look they live for like conditioning.
Some people live for conditioning. They don't lift for size
or looks.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I do enjoy it, It's okay, Yeah, it's like one.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Of them, like you do. Are you a heavyweight guy?
Like you use heavyweights? No?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Definitely not. Look at me. Come on, man, okay, yeah,
look like I'm running America.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Do you still use heavyweights?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Que of course he does. It's getting jacked for the season,
is it. Yeah? Who's telling me that it.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Looks good in his suits when he does the show?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Oh he's going to be swollen.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I mean no, you know, no, no, you know. Pause.
But I'm just saying, mite, it looks good in a suit.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Lift a heavy baby. That's how it works. But the
NFL does have this issue when it comes to the
kickoff because a lot of people are not happy with
what they put together. You've got people scrambling to try
and figure out strategically what they're going to do about it,
and then all of a sudden, this pops up. Yesterday,
According to Pro Football talk that the NFL is considering
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the XFL kickoff as a potential replacement, and now the
XFL kickoff works is that the kicker and the returner
are alone. The upmen on the kickoff are lined up
at the opposite thirty yard line and they are five
yards away or from the the opposing thirty five yards line.
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They are five years away from the receiving team's upmen,
and nobody can move until the returner has the football.
So the idea is what you're creating less space between
the two collisions, the two lines of blockers RCH. It
feels like that kind of caters to everybody. I mean,
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you're going to get more returns and you're going to
get less collisions from the upmen. So this feels like
the better option of what we got now.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I don't know about less collisions.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
I think you get more collisions, just not as violent
of collisions, which is ultimately the goal.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Special teams has always been the play, whether it's punts
or kickoffs, that have usually accumulated the most concussions, the
most head injuries, which they're trying to eliminate from the game.
How do you do that? You implement rules like this,
that make it still a play. And by the way,
if itone's watched the XFL, which I don't, I'm a
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USFL guy.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
That's just me.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
I used to watch it, not anymore, but I have
seen clips of the kickoff and it does seem like
they get more action out of it, and so that
should play a role in it if they ever were
to go to that sort of lineup. Now, the change
for obviously this season is going to be a fair
catch inside the twenty five, you get.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
The ball to twenty five. They're essentially doing what the
college rule is.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
But the fact that they're willing to explore it goes
to show you how hard they want to keep or
how badly they want to keep the kickoff in the
game of football, just so they can say kickoff is
at this time good. Because the second you eliminate the
kickoff and you just walk the offense out there on
the field, that's when it becomes a little odd, you know,
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where you're like, all right, no one's kicking anything to
start the game.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
You know that is odd? Yeah, that is odd. I
don't I don't listen.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I struggle with these things because I am a big
proponent of safety first, I'll say that, but I'm I mean,
I've seen the kickoff, I've seen the way that it
works and the way that it looks. I mean, there
are things that will constantly evolve within a game that
was created, you know, just over one hundred years ago.
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I mean, it's going to continue to evolve. I just
don't want it to evolve to a place of where
it's almost like, maybe I'm wrong for this, and maybe
it's a horrible like kind of example, but I'll use
it anyway because it's just what it makes me feel.
Imagine if they started putting in all of these different
rules to start managing and governing boxing because they want
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to do away with some of the brutality of it
and try to lessen some of the injuries that take
place in boxing. It's like, at some point you got
to look at it and say, you do realize it's boxing.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
They're punching each other in the face. Man, it's gonna
I mean at some point.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
You remember, it used to be fifteen round and that
was it.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Used to be no round totals, it used to be
until it was done, you know, So I get I
get the I mean, they used to fight with their
like you know, peaky blinders. They used to fight with
their their knuckles facing their opponent, you.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Know what I mean, like not like backhands. Joanna still
fights like that. That's how you todd that has is
super cool.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
I think that's cool when you'd like you'd be like,
you know, like winding your hands up and it's like
facing the opponent with your hands like you know, I
don't know anyway. The point is is though, like, okay,
you did away with the infinite round?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
What was that?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
It's my Irish accent? Oh I got one more time?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
One more time? You what?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Bust yup?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
You hear me?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
So I got and I'm using my fists.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I feel like I feel like your voice is naturally
deeper than that. Why does it go up an octave.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Because I feel like, you know, in iris, because he's
trying to sound like you get excited like Connor McGregor
and take his voice up higher.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I don't feel like McGregor's voice is.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Up higher though, But the closest I've ever I think that's.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
What he's thinking though in his mind. You ja, yeah,
that's fine. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Like the closest I've ever gotten to Ireland because you
guys for some reason won't take me or and won't
like take me on a trip to Ireland. Like the
closest I've ever gotten is the movie Far and Away.
And that's how Tom Cruise sounded in that movie like
I have no wish to fight you, and that's all
I got. So that's my limited Irish accent. So when
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you're talking Peggy Blinders in that stance, that's how they
used to fight.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
In that movie. When they would do the fight fought.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, they would fight like that, that's all I got.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
What happened.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
They would fight like that, they'd put their hands out
in front of them, European style.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I don't I don't think that sounds like Irish.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Will take me to Ireland and I'll change.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
You're trying to sound Irish, trying to be like, hey man,
they fight like that, essay, that's what it sounds like.
I just said.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
I mean, we're going to take Jamaican an Irish all
thank you?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, oh you're gonna put it on me. Started that.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I want to apologize to my in laws who were
listening on the iHeartRadio app. And last go for what
Brady said right there. I want to pump.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Okay, do the accent again.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I don't feel like it.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Oh my god, it's awful. It's just so bad. Oh
my god. The best is you try to slip it in.
For one word, no one's gonna notice.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
You try to do a half assed Irish accent that
sounds like you you're just using something that you use
back all.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
First of all, I got three I got a limited
repertoire of accents or impressions.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Okay, hold on, real quick, real quick, give me Harry
carry trying to do an Irish accent.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
I'll trick it out of the table. You knows, really, how.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Would Harry Carey feel about the Cubs last couple, last couples.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
It wouldn't be sober, that's for sure. The cat stop scoring.
It's like Brady Quinn back at South Bend.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Oh Man.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Anyway, the kickoff. I definitely think that at some point,
like you gotta stop trying to micro manage the rules
in what's going on into taking the physicality out of
the game. I just really, I really believe that, because
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at some point we talk about the integrity of the
game and all these different things, and it's like, okay,
but if you're if you're making it so that a
guy can't get it, it's targeting or it's personal foul,
or he's got to catch the ball, he's got to
get his feet down on the ground, and he's got
to be able to make an athletic move before he's
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considered to be protecting himself and not a vulnerable, you know,
person that can't protect themselves within the play. You can't
touch the quarterback, you know everything. It just seems like
it's just becoming a tat bit too much regulation on
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on how the game is played.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Have you guys heard one person come out and say
in the NFL, I mean people that are actually involved, coaches,
players are going to be involved in this play. Have
you heard one person come out and say, you know
this new kickoff, I'm with it, this works for me.
I haven't heard one person come out in support of it.
Everybody's been against it, but not one person the fair
catch rule. No, the new kickoff rule in the NFL
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where you can fair catch it inside, you know the
twenty five. I haven't heard one person come out and
say I like the new change.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I don't know that I've heard anyone say they don't
like either though, what do you.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Say coaches have the special teams coaches have spoken out
about it.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I don't know. I don't know that there's enough of
a sample size for them to know.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I mean, look, it's it's already exists at the college
football level, so they have DAT on it and they're
trying they're trying to make the play safer. I think
what's going to be most interesting is the preseason is
seeing who wants to test it out, to see what
they do if they try to do a mortar kick
where they try to entice them to try to return
the football or I mean, honestly, like if you really
want to.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Get a return, you can swim kick it every single time.
I mean you really could.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
You could swimkick it every single time and see how
that works out, right.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I mean, there's a bunch of different strategy that can
be at play.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I think people who are going to complain about it
are the same people who.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Complain about like nil.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
You know, for example, in college football, it's like, dude,
it's here to stay. Stop complaining about it and adjust
or a DAT.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
So otherwise you're gonna die, like like literally, like your
career is going to die.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
That's the same that's the same thing as special teams.
Coaches need to adapt to this and adjust, so I
mean LeVar when they come out with like points of
emphasis and rule changes which usually impact the defense more
than the offense. As a defensive player, you're like, Oh,
let's just complain about this, or do you have to
adapt your game? Both you can play and some guys
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just adapt.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Some guys don't, and then they're out of the league.
It's healthy to do both.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
It's healthy to say I can't f him up the
way that I was fing him up last year, Like
that's s all right, you know, we gotta figure it out,
Like gotta figure it out or I gotta get my mind.
I used to, you know, every single year, I'd be like, man, like,
all right, that's that's too okay, So I gotta put it.
I gotta put aside two hundred grand to be able
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to play the way that I played.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Did you really you got dang right?
Speaker 5 (30:03):
At one point, I was the highest fine player until
Hugh Douglas hit hardball or somebody. He hit somebody, But
I was the highest fine guy for hitting too hard
in the league.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
One year.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
One year I was getting I was getting mail every
week for hitting too hard, which I thought was the
biggest crock of s Ever. How am I getting fined?
It was not a flag in the game. I was
not penalized in the game. It was a perfectly clean hit.
And I'm getting mail because I'm hitting too hard.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
It was Jim Miller. That Hugh Douglas hit that will
lead to lapist home.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Yeah, and that's that probably was Jim Miller.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
You know, don't hit me with a racist I do
not think everybody looks alike, although I will say at
one point in time, I did think that all quarterbacks
looked alike.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
And I don't know if that's racist and if that is,
well racist offended. So I just wanted to put them
all on my plate.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
That didn't matter if it was salmon, if it was trout,
if it was Rich Snapper, it was a fish.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
You know what I mean. That's how I looked at,
you know, quarterback.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Yeah, damn them up, grill them up, royolum bakum.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I don't give a damn limit. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Pepper's by itself, I don't. I don't care. I just
wanted it on my plate. I was ready to eat?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
What up fish fry? Yeah, two pros and a cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. By the way, Lee,
can we find that is there any way to do
the research on this? The most fines for an NFL
player in their career, Like, whould you guys guess has
been fine?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
The most back man or Adam Jones has to be
up there?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah Jones?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Well, I don't know how you don't know how many?
I mean is that.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
There's actually two questions there, Like you could have started
off as Adam and then they converted the pac Man
or maybe vice versa, or like if you were one
of those sites that tracks this sort of thing. Once
you think to yourself, oh gosh, what are wanna call him?
I mean, everyone calls him pac Man, but his real
name is Adam Jones, You're probably gonna have to google
or search both.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
It's like Chad and Chad Johnson. You're not really sure.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Exactly, like what like what in all seriousness, I know
he legally changed it to Ocho Cinco, which, by the way,
my dad would pistol whip me if I ever changed
my last name.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
He really would. He'd be So there's two things.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
My Dad has told me he'd pissed the whip me
for changing my last name and leaving a putt short
and a scramble and a golfing.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And that's and listen, that's reasonable. Yeah, all right, It
just it.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
It's like we got like we got to slam your
wife like that.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Okay, that doesn't even factor.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
He's like, he knows I would never do anything like that,
but he's seeing my golf game.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
He's like, look, son, there's five of you putting.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
All right, don't be that jackass that leaves the putt short.
Give it a chance, give everyone a read it the hole. Okay,
you're there for a reason. That's how Chopper always have you.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Imagine the onlookers there there. Do you see, Oh Brady
missed a putt, No big deal. Anybody want a cocktail?
And Chopper walks out there with a nine millimeter and
puts it right next to your skull. It'd be fantastic.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
I don't I don't think that's exactly what works. I
think you'd actually be striking me with that night.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, on your skull, on my skull. Yeah, nice little pistol.
Whip and pistol whips a great term, you know, really, you.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Know, culturally speaking, some people would be offended by hearing
pistol whipped.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
It's not the show for you.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Then who the military culture and that's that's where my
dad comes from. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
No, some people you just say, you know, I'm just
saying just that I put that out there. Yeah, well listen,
especially depending on who says it.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, I'm just saying, it's a new time nowadays. You
want to pistol whip somebody, it's going to be like
a tendo control.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
I'm just telling you, don't keep saying different time.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Now that I've pointed it out like you did, it
was good because his dad was associated with it and
it was him. But if you keep saying it, it's
just going to get interpreted the wrong way. You might
have to issue an apology.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I would hold on. I would hold on, Jonas, how
would they say in Ireland?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
A pistol with every lass? What are you?
Speaker 3 (34:22):
You do?
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Sound like a very very soft irishman though. Yeah, it's
like everyone's to fight, like I'm going to take your
pistol out of your hand with your.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Head right, So you guys have you guys have seen
that Leprechaun, you know, like a Maxcot Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
That guy's always he's got his duke something. He's fighting. Jonas,
that's the guy he's whooping on every time.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Yeah, always have to be somebody who loses in those fights.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
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Speaker 2 (35:32):
Right now, we turn it over to Albert Breer, senior
NFL reporter at the MMQB. You can get him on
Twitter at Albert Breer he is in the midst of
his training camp tour.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
AB.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
What's happening? How are you?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
What's up? Guys?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Just hanging out?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Finished up your tour, didn't you? Ab? No?
Speaker 6 (35:49):
No, no, I've got Well, the first one goes through Tuesday.
Usually I start when camps open, and then it cuts
off right before the full weekend of preseason games. So
all all, I've seen about half the league by the
time I get home next week.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Where are you at now, Liberty? You turned the Liberty
out there?
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Oh, the Pacific Northwest this time of year, man, it's
nice out there.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Oh it's beautiful. I feel like it's almost like a
secret like people don't know. But like everything here, it's
a weird thing, like where it rains for like whatever
nine months out of the year, and I feel like
when you're up here in the summer, everything looks fluorescent,
you know what I mean, is like glowing. It's incredible.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
And then they roll it up and smoke it.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Now, Albert got to ask you, guys, there are some
reports that you could be in alum of Ohio state.
So I'm just curious that there's a little bit more
excitement for you to see if all that you've heard
about and all that we've heard about Jackson Smith and
Jigba so far in camp is true there with the
Seattle Seahawks, because apparently he has lit it up so
far there.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
I mean, he's a really good player. I think we
knew that. Like I think the only question with him
was whether or not you know that the hamstring thing
was going to linger, because it was such a freak
thing last year and you know, talking to people over there,
it was just they just couldn't get on top of
it over the course of the year. And obviously he
misses almost the entire season last year. But you know,
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he was, you know, as good as Garrett Wilson and
Chris o'lave in twenty twenty one as a true sophomore,
and those two guys both had thousand yard seasons as rookies.
You know, So is he the same type as a
receivers those who know and I think, you know, part
of the reason why maybe he doesn't go as high
in the draft as the other two is he's a
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little bit more of a pure spot. But I don't
think anybody who you know watched him or evaluated him
had any doubt like he was he was gonna be
capable of assimilating to the m NFL pretty quickly. And
you know, I think you're gonna find that that you know,
like again, he may not be you know, like the
big play threat that chrys Olave or Garrett Wilson orror
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coming out, but it's gonna be a hyper productive spot receiver.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
I think, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
And his situation he enters into is one of which
he doesn't have to do it all. I mean, you've
got a lot, You've got Metcalf, and you've got a
team that's going to run the football too. So it's
like he can kind of find his role in it.
But I think he's going to have a huge year.
But that's also assuming Gino is able to replicate what
he did last year.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
How does he look. I mean, it's a huge year for.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Him professionally personally to really solidify himself there as the guy.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Right.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
Yeah, And you know, there are two things like about
about Geno Brady that really stuck out to me, you know,
over the course of the offseason. Number One, like he
believed that this is who he was, you know, the
last five years, Like he thought like it was just
a matter of him getting a chance and like that,
you know, things had gotten so sideways with the Jets,
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and the circumstance was so weird and different of him,
you know, winding up out there and you know, well,
he just needed a chance to develop. And when that happened,
he was he was going to be a really good player.
And we saw that last year obviously. And then the
second piece of it is, you know, just the level
of commitment, which you know, I thought this was a
really interesting story. He so like last year, after they
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got eliminated by San Francisco in the playoffs, you know,
everybody goes back and has their exit meetings and everything else.
Usually guys scattered across the country. Well, Geno stayed in
Seattle for an extra three weeks because he wanted to
sort of have the experience of working through when the
Super Bowl is and he wanted to go back and
look at, you know, what went wrong, what went right
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over the course.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Of the year.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
He wanted to get strength and conditioning work in, you know,
with the with with the strength coaches there with the team,
and he wanted to do all this stuff before he
went back to South Florida to do you know his
off season quarterback training, you know, and then you know
a little later in the offseason. You know, a lot
of a lot of quarterbacks will do like these big
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quarterback camps, right like Mahomes says one in Dallas, and
you know Josh Allen did when in California, I believe,
right like, So that's pretty common. Well, you know, did
his a little bit differently where he went and visited
each other of his receivers individually and got one on
one work with them, with the idea of being that
he wanted to build chemistry with them individually and wanted
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to kind of know what they liked and what they
didn't like about the twenty twenty two seasons. So I think,
you know, a lot of people get stuck on what
you know was with the Jets. And I'm not saying
he's suddenly going to become Mahomes or Alan or Burrow,
but you know, I think you see a very mature player,
a guy who's driven, and a guy who seems to
be doing a lot of the right things to follow
up with what was obviously a really good season in
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twenty twenty two.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Have you have you heard anything about I mean, I'm
certain DeShawn won't play much, but will he play any tonight?
Speaker 3 (40:55):
And if what are they hoping to see tonight?
Speaker 5 (40:59):
Like, what are the storylines that maybe fans should be
paying attention to.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
Yes, so I don't think you see the Sean you know,
And for most teams that play in this game, it's
an extra preseason game, so it's sort of used as
an evaluation tool for the guys further down on your roster,
you know, and you and especially for teams that have, like,
you know, joint practices, and I believe both the Jets
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and Browns have sets of joint practices coming up. I
think the Jets are practicing with the I can't remember
the Jets are practicing with, but I know the Browns
are practicing with the Eagles, I believe next week. So
I don't think you'll see many stars that to me,
like the most interesting storyline might be Zach Wilson tonight,
you know, because I think you know, the ability to
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learn behind Aaron Rodgers through the spring and into the
early parts of camp and you know, maybe get a
year or two to sit and reset could be really
good for him, you know. So you know, everything you
heard out of the Jets building, you know, going all
the way back February when they started considering training for
Rogers and then making the run at Rogers, everything you
heard about about Zach Wilson was, you know, he's really
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excited about the idea of working with Aaron Rodgers, and
he's been humbled a little bit. He's really trying to
kind of evaluate what went wrong over the first two
years of his career, and so to me like that,
probably the most interesting storylines going into tonight is what
Zach Wilson looks like as a former second overall tack.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Albert Breer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior
NFL reporter at the MMQB. You can get him on
Twitter at Albert Breer. Albert, you just left Atlanta and
now you're in Seattle, obviously to see the Seahawks. But
we were talking earlier about Arthur Blank publicly backing Desmond
Ritter as his quarterback of the future, Desmond Ridder responding,
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it feels like they've got a bunch of out there
on offense. He's a real question mark. What was your
takeaway from seeing them?
Speaker 6 (42:57):
Well, I mean, at first, on the Ritter thing, I
just think so. I think Arthur Smith and Terry fun
have sort of made it a conscious decision that unless
they're completely sold that a guy can be the guy
that gets them into that like exclusive club like the
Cincinnati and Buffalo and Kansas City, you're in like that
level of quarterback. They're not going to go all out,
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like they're not going to sell out to get Derek Carr,
you know. So I think they feel better at least
treading water with a guy who they like, who's younger,
who's cheaper, who has some upside. So I don't know
they're convinced that he's going to be the quarterback for
the next ten years, but they like him as a player,
and you know, like this this gives them a chance
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to build the roster in other places. I think what's
fascinating about the about the Falcons is if you if
you look at the way the built, you know, they
have a bunch of guys who can play a bunch
of different positions on offense, and when they break the huddle,
you don't know where the five skill guys are going.
And I know, you know, Arthur Smith was a big
fan of it. It's going to sound weird a big
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fan of the way that the Warriors were built, you know,
you know, twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, this whole idea of
position was basketball and how hard they were to play
against her opponents. And that's how they've sort of built
the Falcons offense. You know, with Dejon who you can
move them around, Kyle Pitts, you can move them around,
Drake London, you can move them around. Even though a
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Quarterell Patterson is a veteran, you can play him in
multiple different spots. You know, I really like the way
that they're building competition on the roster and the way
they're building versatility under that roster. And so you know, again,
like you know, I know, a lot of it's going
to come down to the quarterback and how far can
Desmond rhet Or take them and everything else. But because
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you know, they've sort of you know, hit the pause
button on quarterback and said, you know, we're going to
wait for the right opportunity to get it right at quarterback,
it's sort of freed them up to build in a
really really interesting way.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
Albert, I want to ask you about some of your
other stops. I believe you're at the Bengals camp as well.
You weren't there when when Joey b went down?
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Were you?
Speaker 6 (45:04):
No, I was there a couple of days.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
After, okay, And what's their sentiment and feeling on the injury.
And then the other team I'm really interested in is
the Titans. I believe you were there as well, which
they get d hop Tannehills played really well during the
course of the preseason, but it seems like with the
Will Levis draft pick and leak Willis the year before,
like they're trying to kind of push him out right.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
Sure, so yeah, and the Bengals, I'd say, you know,
I think that that and this is based on my
timelines as other players, but you know, like I know
other players that have had similar injuries to the cat
strain that joe suffered. It's like a four to six
week injury. And you know, but I didn't send it's
much concern that he's going to be out for the opener.
I don't think you'll see him for a couple more weeks.
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But I my sense was coming out of there either
fast feel or now this is a little different. You know.
One thing that was kind of expining to me is,
you know, obviously it's much different than the APPENDEDCE site
is last year, and it's even different than the ACL.
You know, it's just he hasn't gone through this type
of injury, but he's typically a fast heeler. As for
the Titans, yeah, I mean it's an interesting spot there,
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mean because you know, they felt like going in with
a new general manager and Ran Carson, that they had
to reset the cap a little and there was some
agent their roster, and they changed a bunch of things,
and I think the one thing that they are leaning
on to carry them through and you can see it
the way they trastice Brady. I mean, I you know,
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like it's it. I mean, it's not what practice was,
It's not what football practice was in the NFL fifteen
years ago, but it's probably the closest thing. You know,
the identity is still there. And I you know, I
talked to Ryan a little bit, you know, at the
end of their practice, and he's super motivated. I mean,
he's going into a contract gear. He knows the score,
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you know, he knows that they've drafted two guys in
the top hundred picks the last two years into his room.
And you know, I think he's he's he's primed for
a really good year and he's really you know what's
interesting is, and I don't think a lot of people
have sort of realized this, but they're changing sort of
schematically what they're doing offensively a little bit too, and
going to more of like from what had been like
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a Shanahan style of offense to a little bit more
of like the Bill O'Brien Patriot type of offense with
Tim Kelly being the offensive coordinator. And Tannehill feels like
that's going to bring out the best in him because
it's going to give him a little bit more control,
you know what happens at the line, so you know,
I know you're going to see a motivated run. And
I think I think I think he's going to be
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their quarterback this year. I don't think Levister Willis will
overtake him.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
And that'll give him a leg up too on the
younger quarterbacks who are getting into the NFL trying to
learn a system that there are going to be as
comfortable with what they're seeing out there as Tannehill.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Will be with all his experience.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
So it plays an advantage too with the next guy
maybe nipping on a seals or not in this case,
right right.
Speaker 6 (47:56):
Yeah, I mean I certainly, you know, and I'm graid
you played in that offense, you know, and Tim Kelly
Gerve the coordinator like worked under Bill O'Brian a bunch,
which is where he learned it. But it's absolutely more
mentally demanding on the on the quarterback. That's the Shanahan offenses.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
Yeah, I love that offense. Albert Cue followup real quick,
I know we're up against it. Just your thoughts on
the Big Ten everything that's happening right now. I know
you've tweeted a little bit about it, so I'm curious
to get your thoughts on what you're seeing in college football.
Speaker 6 (48:22):
Doesn't it feel like doesn't it feel like the Big
ten's just eating the Pac twelve and now we're going
to have like the Big Ten championship games can be
with the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
You know what, literally eating the pack.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
I kind of felt like the Pac twelve was more
like starving itself and the Big Ten was like, Hey,
here's some food and then everyone came running, you know.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
I kind of feel like that's a little more of
the way I describe it.
Speaker 6 (48:46):
I mean, I don't know, I guess it's natural evolution
and everything else, but it's just it's I don't know,
like I really at the end of all of this,
like I don't know who really wins, you know what
I mean? Like obviously the television works and there are
a lot of people who can get rich out of this,
but I'm just not sure, Like are the schools winners?
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Are the players winners? Are the fans winners?
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Like?
Speaker 6 (49:10):
Is this better than what we've had? And maybe I'm stuck.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
In traditional sounds scared? Sounds like you're scared to get
like in there and Washington.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Are you scared of going on the road?
Speaker 5 (49:22):
Who would be?
Speaker 6 (49:23):
Who would Who in the world would I be scared of?
Speaker 3 (49:25):
I'm just I'm asking, like you sound like you're like,
I don't know. I'm a traditionalist. I don't really want
that long.
Speaker 6 (49:30):
I am a little are you for it?
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Time zone changes? I just I don't know. It is
a long ass flight, A long flight, I will say.
Speaker 6 (49:39):
I will say I feel bad for the field, honey. Players,
Like people are gonna be like schlepping throw hair on
a Tuesday in October?
Speaker 3 (49:47):
I mean, I mean, aren't they already doing that anyway? O? Hair?
Like would you think that it's it's it's going to
be like when they're connecting another odd airports trying to
like make it to the West coast.
Speaker 6 (49:56):
I mean, I just can't imagine. I don't you see,
I don't even know the answer this, Bray, do you
would know the answer to this?
Speaker 3 (50:02):
Now?
Speaker 6 (50:02):
What are you two? Like do what the revenue sports?
Speaker 4 (50:07):
No, in most cases they'll fly commercial, right, so would
take a bus?
Speaker 6 (50:12):
I mean, I mean, I mean, like, how does all right,
so Arizona goes to Big twelve, Like, how how do
you get from two soon to Morgantown?
Speaker 4 (50:21):
Well you might be able to fly direct a pit.
If you can't, you're going to connect once there and
drive from.
Speaker 6 (50:26):
Pitt Right, So you'd fly like Tucson to like d
f W df W to Pittsburgh and then like driving
for an hour.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Yeah, hey, Albert, Albert, welcome to my weekly travel for
Big New Kickoff pal. That's usually how where it's it's
it's two flights in a drive.
Speaker 6 (50:41):
Mostly Yeah, but you don't have like psychology one on
one at seven am the next morning?
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Right?
Speaker 3 (50:47):
Well, No, I've actually had an MBA I've been working on.
So I would like to how about them apples. Ha ha,
how about the apples?
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah you did, Yeah, Albert, we appreciate it. Get him
on Twitter at Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter at the MMQB.
Enjoy your time there in Seattle. Scot out the place,
because maybe Ohio State'll have to be playing Washington in
a couple of years.
Speaker 6 (51:11):
Out there, right, that's right, that's right, guys. I'm coming
to you live from Big ten country.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
Here would be Big ted country. Huh. Go catch a salmon,
Go catch a big fish or something.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
All right, good talking to you there. It is Albert
Breer on a nice clean phone line out in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
There country, good service.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Do you guys see that in the sky earlier? So
like there was a no, no, no for real, So
there was this you know, we were all kind of navigating.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Throughout in Congress and stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, yeah, that stuff's real at this point. They're just
acknowledging that. Or they're trying to get us to look
in the other direction because yeah, or something like that.
But if you looked up into the sky, it was
pitch black for a long time, total darkness, and we've
been looking around for our long lost friend. And guess
what happened? They shot up a flair. You know that
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flair is It's the damn Hall of Fame game. It's
the damn Hall of Fame game. Because football is right
on the brink. It is not that much farther. We
just got to travel a little bit further. But don't
worry about it. This is the first sign that the
NFL is back, and we got a damn NFL game
coming up later on tonight. Who's not fired up about it?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Come on, I can't wait.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I'm excited to see some of the younger guys get
some gets a burn time and.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Play yeah yeah, burn time, baby time. Yeah. And it's
gonna involve the Cleveland Browns and the New York Gets
Now zero chance we see either starting quarterback for this
Rogers is a no go and then old Massage Watson
not happening or what what are we looking at here?
Has that already been announced for the Cleveland Browns? Has it?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I don't enough for rest? Why why wouldn't you get
a couple reps?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Like one one one one one series?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, who knows? But the point is, this is the point.
This is right letting everybody know that we are right
around the corner and there's gonna be a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Of There's gonna be a lot of solid you know.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well, there's gonna be a lot of people that try
and dismiss it and say, well, yeah, these starters are
just preseasons.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
It starts on playing.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, what would you rather do?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
It's a game though, gamble on pre season?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
You know football players who wants yikes, hey, crop circles
and sports books. That's what I was known for.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
They're not doing it, and their moms are at least
it's in their mom's name.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
On a personal note, I'm excited for it because the
Hall of Fame Game obviously is the segue to the
Hall of Fame induction. And for me, you know, being
drafted next to a guy in Joe Thomas, getting to
know Joe and just the player he was, the person
he is, it's an exciting moment.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
He would have never said that, you know, he thought
he was maybe a Hall of Fame player, probably until
that the end of his career when it was pretty
obvious what he was accomplishing.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
But I met him back in high.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
School in the US Army All American Game, and I
remember how good he was back then, how different he
approached things as you know, a kid in high school
going into college. He just was kind of built for it,
like you kind of see child prodigies and the way
that they handled themselves, their technique, the way they move,
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and he was one of those guys that just was
not going to be deterred. I mean, played with twelve
thousand consecutive snaps whatever it was during his time in Cleveland.
I mean, he just the way he prepared his body,
the way he prepared mentally, that type of talent that
he was as a tackle.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
He was just one of those guys you kind.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Of saw him, were like, all right, that guy's different,
you know, and you knew he was going to be
special when he got the league.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
So he gets inducted into it.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
For Browns fans, I think it's a you know, hopefully
maybe you know what is to come, and I have aspirations,
high aspirations for the team. But it's an awesome moment
obviously for Joe and his family, but but for Browns fans,
you know, having something looked forward to as well this weekend.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Know, for me, isn't isn't Res in this class?
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's uh yeah, that's that's that's
why it's it means a lot to me.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I mean, he's from Quick Town.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
I mean it's always one of those things for me
when I'm watching the Hall of Fame, it's always bitter sweet. Yeah,
no doubt it's it's always it's always a bittersweet.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Deal for me. Yeah, it is. It is Allen.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
And and you know that's that's there's so much tradition
that Al Equippa with with ty Law and his his
uncle Sean Gilbert, and it's it's a it's it's so
much talent that has come from that area, in particular
from from where I'm from. Even though they're not for
one tours, I don't believe. I'm pretty certain there's seven
(04:46):
two four's they're they're not the city, they're actually their
own city, I believe. Al yeah, yeah, so, but I digress. Uh,
Darrell Reeves outside of of Prime, y'all are in jerks
right now. Outside of Dion Sanders. I honestly believe Darrel
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reebas is the greatest cover, single coverage man, up coverage
corner to ever play the game.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Better than Jason C.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Horn.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Come on, oh, okay, we're gonna be in.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Real sty He brought a name you didn't see probably should.
I mean, that's up for debate. You know, that's up
for debate.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I didn't to.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Play against Darrell Reeves college and NFL. The one thing
I'd say he always made you do, aside from all
the skill and technique and football IQ that he displayed,
was you always felt uncomfortable. You know, if you were
dumb enough to throw his way, he always made you
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feel uncomfortable, like you couldn't make a confident throw because
how he was playing the receiver, how he was playing
the ball. You just felt like there was nowhere to
really put the ball. And that's obviously a credit to him.
Like if you can if you can stop a quarterback
or even throwing the ball in your direction, there's something
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to be said for that, you know. And obviously his
his production says enough where you know when you can
pick off or or have enough PBUs and and all
that you get to a point where, like guys like
there's no point in trying to, you know, test that matchup.
But there's other times you might try to throw it
him and it's like you just can't put a ball
in a spot where he can't get to it, or
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you don't feel like.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
He's got a shot of picking it off. And that
was obviously credit to him and his game and how
it evolved over time.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Yeah, and obviously Zach Thomas is somebody that I followed since.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
College and took way too long.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
I just you know, he's he's one of the greats
and one of the great dudes. Like I got an
opportunity to get to know him pretty well through the years.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Just a great dude, man.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
And that's that's the thing about to me, what the
Hall of Fame should and does represent so many times
is it's an opportunity to highlight how great these men are,
not just how great they were on the football field
and their accolades and their accomplishments as football players and
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as athletes, but the type of people that they are. Like,
I got emotional when they announced Zach because I you know,
you could tell how much that it meant for him
to get in and at what that representation to him,
What it meant, I mean, Zach was always an underdog,
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you know, undersized, not as fast like you name it.
It was that like if you don't check off the box.
Zach was never est of anything. He wasn't the tallest,
he wasn't the biggest, he wasn't the fastest, he wasn't
the strongest. But he was a consummate professional on and
off the field, very reveale, very very respected, and you know,
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he'll be a great addition to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Family man. He's you know, I'm super happy for him.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
DeMarcus Ware is also getting in as well, too, great career,
four time All Pro, almost one hundred and forty sacks
in his career. You just look at the list of
guys that are getting it just it is. It's also
an indication that you know, we're getting a little older
because you can remember those guys playing in their prime.
Rondez Barber is also in, Don Coryel, Joe Klecko, ro
(08:33):
It's so weird yo, Ken Riley and then Chuck Howley
as well too is going to be in. So yeah,
this is a a fun class. You know what, I've
always wondered this about just offensive linemen, Like how do
you really determine who's had a Hall of Fame career
other than number of all pros and reputation? Like it
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just it feels like there's no statistical category or you
can point to with an offensive lineman. Is there a
pancake category? Is there?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
You know?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Is it sacks allowed? Like I've always wondered, like there
are probably offensive linemen out there that are deserving to
get in but don't get in. And the fact that
Joe Thomas was a no brainer first time on the ballot,
and that guy unquestionably was going to be a Hall
of Famer, it just goes to show to your point,
Brady the reputation he had going all the way back
to high school and then it just carried on into
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the pros and people just said, yeah, he's good. It's
might like Quentin Nelson. Quentin Nelson, you just know, Yeah,
there's no real statistical category to go with it. This
guy's probably going to be a Hall of Famer Zack Martin,
same thing at this time.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah, I mean it it comes down to, obviously, I
think the track record because when you look at Lineman,
the stats are looking at you know, it's it's how healthy.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Were they were able to play through injury?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Like that was one of the things that I think
for Joe was big because you're not going to be
able to get those accolades if you're not out there
in the field. And so yeah, there's no stats tied
to them. You can look at like PFF grades or
something like that, but PFF grades are just going to
really give you a sense of, yeah, we're all seeing
the same thing on film.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
He's a dominant player.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Guys aren't getting by him in pass rush, he's covering
guys up in the run game.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
You know, all those things are true with Joe.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
What I think is interesting because you know, it is
funny that you bring that up, because in other positions
there are stats that matter, and if you have those
stats and you want a super Bowl, you're in right.
And even though it's like the ultimate team sport, winning
a Super Bowl takes a ton of different variables to
factor in to make it happen. One of the biggest
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ones probably luck. And I know people hate hearing that,
but it's the truth. You could look at anyone's Super
Bowl season and look at the luck that had played
out at various points, whether it's avoiding injury, whether it's
a call is here, a call there, the ball bouncing
your way. There's so many things that playoff factor into it,
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maybe even just the you know, happenstance of being able
to get the right player at the right time.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
But you know, for for Lineman, it doesn't factor in
that way.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I did an interview yesterday talking to some folks in
Cleveland about Joe and just his his journey, and they
talked a lot about how he stayed in Cleveland. You know,
he never pushed to leave, and towards the end of
started to take its toll on him.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
You know, the losing started to take its toll on him.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
And the hard thing for us is the best season
he ever experienced was when we first got there. We
went ten and six, didn't make the playoffs. Tony dungeye
that that last game of the season in two thousand
and seven and decided to rest all his starters, which
basically ended up you know, giving I can't remember who
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it was the win now.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Ultimately, like we didn't look at it that way. In
our locker room, We're like, we got we got to
control the games we play. We obviously didn't win the
right ten games.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
You can't put your hope in someone else and hoping
that you know, they win a game or they play
their starters.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So we get in.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
But I remember like talk with Joe and talking with
a lot of guys in that see we thought that
was the start of something and then it gets all
blown up in year two. And I think one of
the toughest parts about Joe and his career and just
his time in Cleveland was it never got better.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Like it never got better.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
It was it was a scenario where there was constant turnover,
the change in ownership, you know, coach after coach, GM
after GM, and there were some long dark years on
that whole one and you know what thirty one and
thirty one two years, you know, spam and he kept
playing a high level. He kept going out there and
playing even though he's playing through some injuries. Didn't necessarily
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need to or have to. It's those sorts of quote
unquote stats if you will, data points, whatever you wanna
call them, that I think helped tell the story of alignment.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
And it's just a unique position. But that's that's ultimately.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
You know, how they're judged, how they're graded is based on,
you know, their sacrifice to the game a lot of
times with which the way they play it. You know,
it's a combination of those things.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It was the Titans over the Colts game. It was
Jim Sorgi got the start for Indianapolis and that it
was I mean, should be ashamed of yourself, of our
opportunity for them to go to the playoffs and carry
Collins does it for the Titans starting quarterback for the
Titans that day.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Myself the Penn Stator, Yeah, it was a little bit
of a reach by judges, just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Why not reach a little bit?
Speaker 5 (13:49):
It has to do with Penn State. There's only one
thing that's ever made me ashamed of Penn State, Chile.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
All Right, if I reached, you jumped across the table,
that that.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Was I was being honest, you were reaching. I was
just being honest. I mean, actually I appreciate your honesty.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Ar.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, I wish it would have brought that up. It's
kind of like a what do you how do you
pivot from that? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Yeah, well we just ta it right into a red
and get to the break.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Damn as we do this show for the Tirack dot
com studios. Yeah, weird man, Yeah, weird. By the way, Lee,
can we can we confirm that al Equippa is it's
is it seven to four?
Speaker 5 (14:35):
It's not its own it's like surrounding areas of Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Who's confirming this? League?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah? What would it take?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
An hour?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh? Come on, exact like he's waiting in the airport
or something.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
He might be.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
We'll get it done. But we are going to have
the usuals coming up later on. We got another edition
of In case you missed it, We've got you any
you out. Albert Brear is going to stop by, we'll
talk NFL. He's on his training camp tour We're also
gonna have baby very special edition of over Unders for
the Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Did you confirm that LaVar's seven to four? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Well can you confirm that? Double confirmation? Yeah, two sores.
You look it up for double sour.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
T.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Thank you, Lee, thank you for believe off on it.
I mean professionally, that's the sports radio.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I mean, he wouldn't be doing his job if he
didn't confirm it.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
So, which I'm not trying to throw you under the bus,
but sometimes based on your conduct, it cracks me up. Yeah,
I'm just saying, yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Would have what he does, you know, and then like, oh,
we need we need lead to sign off with a
TPS report.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
You're going, Lee, he's gonna sign.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Off that he's just when he's with todd Man. If
we can keep him away from todd we we get
prime time great, a Hall Hall of Fame worthy Lee
and the radio bit. But when he's around todd Man, his.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
His level go. He slows up a little bit. Man.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Like it's it's always loading, you know, it never loads
super quickly.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, it's always buffer. I think I have I have
a thought on why that is. But I also think
it's very accurate.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yeah, they said there's a movie out of him and Lee,
Him and Todd document They've had food at every single
Margaritaville or something like that.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, you see that. Yeah, let me tell you something.
Bill and Ted's excellent adventure. Highly underrated. In fact, I
would argue one of Keanu Reeves's better roles all right,
when you get right, when you come to know who
the guy is Todd. Yeah, one of his better roles
Party time Wait. Also filmed not far from you, LeVar
in San Demus. They go to the water parking.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Side, right down the street.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, so there's that.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
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Speaker 2 (17:10):
So the NFL, and obviously we have the Hall of
Fame game coming up later on tonight. The NFL's got
this new kickoff rule where I made it just slowly
but surely it's like that guy who moves down to
the basement and the movie The Off or office Space,
whatever it's called, where they just slowly start to close
them in a little more, and close them in a
little more, and they're just trying to squeeze him out.
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And it feels like that's what they're going out to
the NFL with the kickoff rule and the adjustments and
the fair catch inside the goal line and.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
The twenty five years to squeeze it on out.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Jesus, what the last Like yesterday, Like I had to
squeeze out a last couple of reps.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You know, stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
You know a little bit of time before you had
to go drive and be driving as daisies around to
sports and stuff like that. Like there's always moments of
trying to squeeze a little bit more of it.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Out and somebody calls some people call that to failure. Yeah, yeah,
you want to take it all the way to failure
or your body gives out And just as I've had
enough that way.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
You love weightlifting? Are you really like a big weightlifter?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I don't know if I'm I mean not technically, I mean,
look at me. Can't really be a big weightlifter if
you're not lifting back.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Well, that's not necessarily true, because there are a lot
like if you look at like some military dudes. They
lift like crazy and they don't look like they're like
they're not like super muscle bound because they don't lift
for muscle boundness. They look they live for like conditioning.
Some people live for conditioning. They don't lift for size
or looks.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I do enjoy it, It's okay, Yeah, it's like one.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Of them, like you do. Are you a heavyweight guy?
Like you use heavyweights? No?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Definitely not. Look at me. Come on, man, okay, yeah,
look like I'm running America.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Do you still use heavyweights?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Que of course he does. It's getting jacked for the season,
is it. Yeah? Who's telling me that it.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Looks good in his suits when he does the show?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Oh he's going to be swollen.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I mean no, you know, no, no, you know. Pause.
But I'm just saying, mite, it looks good in a suit.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Lift a heavy baby. That's how it works. But the
NFL does have this issue when it comes to the
kickoff because a lot of people are not happy with
what they put together. You've got people scrambling to try
and figure out strategically what they're going to do about it,
and then all of a sudden, this pops up. Yesterday,
According to Pro Football talk that the NFL is considering
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the XFL kickoff as a potential replacement, and now the
XFL kickoff works is that the kicker and the returner
are alone. The upmen on the kickoff are lined up
at the opposite thirty yard line and they are five
yards away or from the the opposing thirty five yards line.
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They are five years away from the receiving team's upmen,
and nobody can move until the returner has the football.
So the idea is what you're creating less space between
the two collisions, the two lines of blockers RCH. It
feels like that kind of caters to everybody. I mean,
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you're going to get more returns and you're going to
get less collisions from the upmen. So this feels like
the better option of what we got now.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I don't know about less collisions.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
I think you get more collisions, just not as violent
of collisions, which is ultimately the goal.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Special teams has always been the play, whether it's punts
or kickoffs, that have usually accumulated the most concussions, the
most head injuries, which they're trying to eliminate from the game.
How do you do that? You implement rules like this,
that make it still a play. And by the way,
if itone's watched the XFL, which I don't, I'm a
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USFL guy.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
That's just me.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
I used to watch it, not anymore, but I have
seen clips of the kickoff and it does seem like
they get more action out of it, and so that
should play a role in it if they ever were
to go to that sort of lineup. Now, the change
for obviously this season is going to be a fair
catch inside the twenty five, you get.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
The ball to twenty five. They're essentially doing what the
college rule is.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
But the fact that they're willing to explore it goes
to show you how hard they want to keep or
how badly they want to keep the kickoff in the
game of football, just so they can say kickoff is
at this time good. Because the second you eliminate the
kickoff and you just walk the offense out there on
the field, that's when it becomes a little odd, you know,
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where you're like, all right, no one's kicking anything to
start the game.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
You know that is odd? Yeah, that is odd. I
don't I don't listen.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I struggle with these things because I am a big
proponent of safety first, I'll say that, but I'm I mean,
I've seen the kickoff, I've seen the way that it
works and the way that it looks. I mean, there
are things that will constantly evolve within a game that
was created, you know, just over one hundred years ago.
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I mean, it's going to continue to evolve. I just
don't want it to evolve to a place of where
it's almost like, maybe I'm wrong for this, and maybe
it's a horrible like kind of example, but I'll use
it anyway because it's just what it makes me feel.
Imagine if they started putting in all of these different
rules to start managing and governing boxing because they want
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to do away with some of the brutality of it
and try to lessen some of the injuries that take
place in boxing. It's like, at some point you got
to look at it and say, you do realize it's boxing.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
They're punching each other in the face. Man, it's gonna
I mean at some point.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
You remember, it used to be fifteen round and that
was it.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Used to be no round totals, it used to be
until it was done, you know, So I get I
get the I mean, they used to fight with their
like you know, peaky blinders. They used to fight with
their their knuckles facing their opponent, you.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Know what I mean, like not like backhands. Joanna still
fights like that. That's how you todd that has is
super cool.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
I think that's cool when you'd like you'd be like,
you know, like winding your hands up and it's like
facing the opponent with your hands like you know, I
don't know anyway. The point is is though, like, okay,
you did away with the infinite round?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
What was that?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
It's my Irish accent? Oh I got one more time?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
One more time? You what?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Bust yup?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
You hear me?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
So I got and I'm using my fists.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I feel like I feel like your voice is naturally
deeper than that. Why does it go up an octave.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Because I feel like, you know, in iris, because he's
trying to sound like you get excited like Connor McGregor
and take his voice up higher.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I don't feel like McGregor's voice is.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Up higher though, But the closest I've ever I think that's.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
What he's thinking though in his mind. You ja, yeah,
that's fine. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Like the closest I've ever gotten to Ireland because you
guys for some reason won't take me or and won't
like take me on a trip to Ireland. Like the
closest I've ever gotten is the movie Far and Away.
And that's how Tom Cruise sounded in that movie like
I have no wish to fight you, and that's all
I got. So that's my limited Irish accent. So when
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you're talking Peggy Blinders in that stance, that's how they
used to fight.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
In that movie. When they would do the fight fought.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, they would fight like that, that's all I got.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
What happened.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
They would fight like that, they'd put their hands out
in front of them, European style.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I don't I don't think that sounds like Irish.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Will take me to Ireland and I'll change.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
You're trying to sound Irish, trying to be like, hey man,
they fight like that, essay, that's what it sounds like.
I just said.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
I mean, we're going to take Jamaican an Irish all
thank you?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, oh you're gonna put it on me. Started that.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I want to apologize to my in laws who were
listening on the iHeartRadio app. And last go for what
Brady said right there. I want to pump.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Okay, do the accent again.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I don't feel like it.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Oh my god, it's awful. It's just so bad. Oh
my god. The best is you try to slip it in.
For one word, no one's gonna notice.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
You try to do a half assed Irish accent that
sounds like you you're just using something that you use
back all.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
First of all, I got three I got a limited
repertoire of accents or impressions.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Okay, hold on, real quick, real quick, give me Harry
carry trying to do an Irish accent.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
I'll trick it out of the table. You knows, really, how.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Would Harry Carey feel about the Cubs last couple, last couples.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
It wouldn't be sober, that's for sure. The cat stop scoring.
It's like Brady Quinn back at South Bend.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Oh Man.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Anyway, the kickoff. I definitely think that at some point,
like you gotta stop trying to micro manage the rules
in what's going on into taking the physicality out of
the game. I just really, I really believe that, because
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at some point we talk about the integrity of the
game and all these different things, and it's like, okay,
but if you're if you're making it so that a
guy can't get it, it's targeting or it's personal foul,
or he's got to catch the ball, he's got to
get his feet down on the ground, and he's got
to be able to make an athletic move before he's
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considered to be protecting himself and not a vulnerable, you know,
person that can't protect themselves within the play. You can't
touch the quarterback, you know everything. It just seems like
it's just becoming a tat bit too much regulation on
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on how the game is played.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Have you guys heard one person come out and say
in the NFL, I mean people that are actually involved, coaches,
players are going to be involved in this play. Have
you heard one person come out and say, you know
this new kickoff, I'm with it, this works for me.
I haven't heard one person come out in support of it.
Everybody's been against it, but not one person the fair
catch rule. No, the new kickoff rule in the NFL
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where you can fair catch it inside, you know the
twenty five. I haven't heard one person come out and
say I like the new change.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I don't know that I've heard anyone say they don't
like either though, what do you.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Say coaches have the special teams coaches have spoken out
about it.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I don't know. I don't know that there's enough of
a sample size for them to know.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I mean, look, it's it's already exists at the college
football level, so they have DAT on it and they're
trying they're trying to make the play safer. I think
what's going to be most interesting is the preseason is
seeing who wants to test it out, to see what
they do if they try to do a mortar kick
where they try to entice them to try to return
the football or I mean, honestly, like if you really
want to.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Get a return, you can swim kick it every single time.
I mean you really could.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
You could swimkick it every single time and see how
that works out, right.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I mean, there's a bunch of different strategy that can
be at play.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I think people who are going to complain about it
are the same people who.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Complain about like nil.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
You know, for example, in college football, it's like, dude,
it's here to stay. Stop complaining about it and adjust
or a DAT.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
So otherwise you're gonna die, like like literally, like your
career is going to die.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
That's the same that's the same thing as special teams.
Coaches need to adapt to this and adjust, so I
mean LeVar when they come out with like points of
emphasis and rule changes which usually impact the defense more
than the offense. As a defensive player, you're like, Oh,
let's just complain about this, or do you have to
adapt your game? Both you can play and some guys
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just adapt.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Some guys don't, and then they're out of the league.
It's healthy to do both.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
It's healthy to say I can't f him up the
way that I was fing him up last year, Like
that's s all right, you know, we gotta figure it out,
Like gotta figure it out or I gotta get my mind.
I used to, you know, every single year, I'd be like, man, like,
all right, that's that's too okay, So I gotta put it.
I gotta put aside two hundred grand to be able
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to play the way that I played.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Did you really you got dang right?
Speaker 5 (30:03):
At one point, I was the highest fine player until
Hugh Douglas hit hardball or somebody. He hit somebody, But
I was the highest fine guy for hitting too hard
in the league.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
One year.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
One year I was getting I was getting mail every
week for hitting too hard, which I thought was the
biggest crock of s Ever. How am I getting fined?
It was not a flag in the game. I was
not penalized in the game. It was a perfectly clean hit.
And I'm getting mail because I'm hitting too hard.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
It was Jim Miller. That Hugh Douglas hit that will
lead to lapist home.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Yeah, and that's that probably was Jim Miller.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
You know, don't hit me with a racist I do
not think everybody looks alike, although I will say at
one point in time, I did think that all quarterbacks
looked alike.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
And I don't know if that's racist and if that is,
well racist offended. So I just wanted to put them
all on my plate.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
That didn't matter if it was salmon, if it was trout,
if it was Rich Snapper, it was a fish.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
You know what I mean. That's how I looked at,
you know, quarterback.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Yeah, damn them up, grill them up, royolum bakum.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I don't give a damn limit. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Pepper's by itself, I don't. I don't care. I just
wanted it on my plate. I was ready to eat?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
What up fish fry? Yeah, two pros and a cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. By the way, Lee,
can we find that is there any way to do
the research on this? The most fines for an NFL
player in their career, Like, whould you guys guess has
been fine?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
The most back man or Adam Jones has to be
up there?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah Jones?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Well, I don't know how you don't know how many?
I mean is that.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
There's actually two questions there, Like you could have started
off as Adam and then they converted the pac Man
or maybe vice versa, or like if you were one
of those sites that tracks this sort of thing. Once
you think to yourself, oh gosh, what are wanna call him?
I mean, everyone calls him pac Man, but his real
name is Adam Jones, You're probably gonna have to google
or search both.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
It's like Chad and Chad Johnson. You're not really sure.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Exactly, like what like what in all seriousness, I know
he legally changed it to Ocho Cinco, which, by the way,
my dad would pistol whip me if I ever changed
my last name.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
He really would. He'd be So there's two things.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
My Dad has told me he'd pissed the whip me
for changing my last name and leaving a putt short
and a scramble and a golfing.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And that's and listen, that's reasonable. Yeah, all right, It
just it.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
It's like we got like we got to slam your
wife like that.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Okay, that doesn't even factor.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
He's like, he knows I would never do anything like that,
but he's seeing my golf game.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
He's like, look, son, there's five of you putting.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
All right, don't be that jackass that leaves the putt short.
Give it a chance, give everyone a read it the hole. Okay,
you're there for a reason. That's how Chopper always have you.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Imagine the onlookers there there. Do you see, Oh Brady
missed a putt, No big deal. Anybody want a cocktail?
And Chopper walks out there with a nine millimeter and
puts it right next to your skull. It'd be fantastic.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
I don't I don't think that's exactly what works. I
think you'd actually be striking me with that night.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, on your skull, on my skull. Yeah, nice little pistol.
Whip and pistol whips a great term, you know, really, you.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Know, culturally speaking, some people would be offended by hearing
pistol whipped.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
It's not the show for you.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Then who the military culture and that's that's where my
dad comes from. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
No, some people you just say, you know, I'm just
saying just that I put that out there. Yeah, well listen,
especially depending on who says it.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, I'm just saying, it's a new time nowadays. You
want to pistol whip somebody, it's going to be like
a tendo control.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
I'm just telling you, don't keep saying different time.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Now that I've pointed it out like you did, it
was good because his dad was associated with it and
it was him. But if you keep saying it, it's
just going to get interpreted the wrong way. You might
have to issue an apology.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I would hold on. I would hold on, Jonas, how
would they say in Ireland?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
A pistol with every lass? What are you?
Speaker 3 (34:22):
You do?
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Sound like a very very soft irishman though. Yeah, it's
like everyone's to fight, like I'm going to take your
pistol out of your hand with your.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Head right, So you guys have you guys have seen
that Leprechaun, you know, like a Maxcot Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
That guy's always he's got his duke something. He's fighting. Jonas,
that's the guy he's whooping on every time.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Yeah, always have to be somebody who loses in those fights.
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Speaker 2 (35:32):
Right now, we turn it over to Albert Breer, senior
NFL reporter at the MMQB. You can get him on
Twitter at Albert Breer he is in the midst of
his training camp tour.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
AB.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
What's happening? How are you?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
What's up? Guys?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Just hanging out?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Finished up your tour, didn't you? Ab? No?
Speaker 6 (35:49):
No, no, I've got Well, the first one goes through Tuesday.
Usually I start when camps open, and then it cuts
off right before the full weekend of preseason games. So
all all, I've seen about half the league by the
time I get home next week.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Where are you at now, Liberty? You turned the Liberty
out there?
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Oh, the Pacific Northwest this time of year, man, it's
nice out there.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Oh it's beautiful. I feel like it's almost like a
secret like people don't know. But like everything here, it's
a weird thing, like where it rains for like whatever
nine months out of the year, and I feel like
when you're up here in the summer, everything looks fluorescent,
you know what I mean, is like glowing. It's incredible.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
And then they roll it up and smoke it.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Now, Albert got to ask you, guys, there are some
reports that you could be in alum of Ohio state.
So I'm just curious that there's a little bit more
excitement for you to see if all that you've heard
about and all that we've heard about Jackson Smith and
Jigba so far in camp is true there with the
Seattle Seahawks, because apparently he has lit it up so
far there.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
I mean, he's a really good player. I think we
knew that. Like I think the only question with him
was whether or not you know that the hamstring thing
was going to linger, because it was such a freak
thing last year and you know, talking to people over there,
it was just they just couldn't get on top of
it over the course of the year. And obviously he
misses almost the entire season last year. But you know,
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he was, you know, as good as Garrett Wilson and
Chris o'lave in twenty twenty one as a true sophomore,
and those two guys both had thousand yard seasons as rookies.
You know, So is he the same type as a
receivers those who know and I think, you know, part
of the reason why maybe he doesn't go as high
in the draft as the other two is he's a
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little bit more of a pure spot. But I don't
think anybody who you know watched him or evaluated him
had any doubt like he was he was gonna be
capable of assimilating to the m NFL pretty quickly. And
you know, I think you're gonna find that that you know,
like again, he may not be you know, like the
big play threat that chrys Olave or Garrett Wilson orror
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coming out, but it's gonna be a hyper productive spot receiver.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
I think, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
And his situation he enters into is one of which
he doesn't have to do it all. I mean, you've
got a lot, You've got Metcalf, and you've got a
team that's going to run the football too. So it's
like he can kind of find his role in it.
But I think he's going to have a huge year.
But that's also assuming Gino is able to replicate what
he did last year.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
How does he look. I mean, it's a huge year for.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Him professionally personally to really solidify himself there as the guy.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Right.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
Yeah, And you know, there are two things like about
about Geno Brady that really stuck out to me, you know,
over the course of the offseason. Number One, like he
believed that this is who he was, you know, the
last five years, Like he thought like it was just
a matter of him getting a chance and like that,
you know, things had gotten so sideways with the Jets,
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and the circumstance was so weird and different of him,
you know, winding up out there and you know, well,
he just needed a chance to develop. And when that happened,
he was he was going to be a really good player.
And we saw that last year obviously. And then the
second piece of it is, you know, just the level
of commitment, which you know, I thought this was a
really interesting story. He so like last year, after they
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got eliminated by San Francisco in the playoffs, you know,
everybody goes back and has their exit meetings and everything else.
Usually guys scattered across the country. Well, Geno stayed in
Seattle for an extra three weeks because he wanted to
sort of have the experience of working through when the
Super Bowl is and he wanted to go back and
look at, you know, what went wrong, what went right
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over the course.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Of the year.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
He wanted to get strength and conditioning work in, you know,
with the with with the strength coaches there with the team,
and he wanted to do all this stuff before he
went back to South Florida to do you know his
off season quarterback training, you know, and then you know
a little later in the offseason. You know, a lot
of a lot of quarterbacks will do like these big
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quarterback camps, right like Mahomes says one in Dallas, and
you know Josh Allen did when in California, I believe,
right like, So that's pretty common. Well, you know, did
his a little bit differently where he went and visited
each other of his receivers individually and got one on
one work with them, with the idea of being that
he wanted to build chemistry with them individually and wanted
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to kind of know what they liked and what they
didn't like about the twenty twenty two seasons. So I think,
you know, a lot of people get stuck on what
you know was with the Jets. And I'm not saying
he's suddenly going to become Mahomes or Alan or Burrow,
but you know, I think you see a very mature player,
a guy who's driven, and a guy who seems to
be doing a lot of the right things to follow
up with what was obviously a really good season in
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twenty twenty two.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Have you have you heard anything about I mean, I'm
certain DeShawn won't play much, but will he play any tonight?
Speaker 3 (40:55):
And if what are they hoping to see tonight?
Speaker 5 (40:59):
Like, what are the storylines that maybe fans should be
paying attention to.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
Yes, so I don't think you see the Sean you know,
And for most teams that play in this game, it's
an extra preseason game, so it's sort of used as
an evaluation tool for the guys further down on your roster,
you know, and you and especially for teams that have, like,
you know, joint practices, and I believe both the Jets
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and Browns have sets of joint practices coming up. I
think the Jets are practicing with the I can't remember
the Jets are practicing with, but I know the Browns
are practicing with the Eagles, I believe next week. So
I don't think you'll see many stars that to me,
like the most interesting storyline might be Zach Wilson tonight,
you know, because I think you know, the ability to
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learn behind Aaron Rodgers through the spring and into the
early parts of camp and you know, maybe get a
year or two to sit and reset could be really
good for him, you know. So you know, everything you
heard out of the Jets building, you know, going all
the way back February when they started considering training for
Rogers and then making the run at Rogers, everything you
heard about about Zach Wilson was, you know, he's really
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excited about the idea of working with Aaron Rodgers, and
he's been humbled a little bit. He's really trying to
kind of evaluate what went wrong over the first two
years of his career, and so to me like that,
probably the most interesting storylines going into tonight is what
Zach Wilson looks like as a former second overall tack.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Albert Breer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior
NFL reporter at the MMQB. You can get him on
Twitter at Albert Breer. Albert, you just left Atlanta and
now you're in Seattle, obviously to see the Seahawks. But
we were talking earlier about Arthur Blank publicly backing Desmond
Ritter as his quarterback of the future, Desmond Ridder responding,
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it feels like they've got a bunch of out there
on offense. He's a real question mark. What was your
takeaway from seeing them?
Speaker 6 (42:57):
Well, I mean, at first, on the Ritter thing, I
just think so. I think Arthur Smith and Terry fun
have sort of made it a conscious decision that unless
they're completely sold that a guy can be the guy
that gets them into that like exclusive club like the
Cincinnati and Buffalo and Kansas City, you're in like that
level of quarterback. They're not going to go all out,
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like they're not going to sell out to get Derek Carr,
you know. So I think they feel better at least
treading water with a guy who they like, who's younger,
who's cheaper, who has some upside. So I don't know
they're convinced that he's going to be the quarterback for
the next ten years, but they like him as a player,
and you know, like this this gives them a chance
(43:41):
to build the roster in other places. I think what's
fascinating about the about the Falcons is if you if
you look at the way the built, you know, they
have a bunch of guys who can play a bunch
of different positions on offense, and when they break the huddle,
you don't know where the five skill guys are going.
And I know, you know, Arthur Smith was a big
fan of it. It's going to sound weird a big
(44:03):
fan of the way that the Warriors were built, you know,
you know, twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, this whole idea of
position was basketball and how hard they were to play
against her opponents. And that's how they've sort of built
the Falcons offense. You know, with Dejon who you can
move them around, Kyle Pitts, you can move them around,
Drake London, you can move them around. Even though a
(44:23):
Quarterell Patterson is a veteran, you can play him in
multiple different spots. You know, I really like the way
that they're building competition on the roster and the way
they're building versatility under that roster. And so you know, again,
like you know, I know, a lot of it's going
to come down to the quarterback and how far can
Desmond rhet Or take them and everything else. But because
(44:43):
you know, they've sort of you know, hit the pause
button on quarterback and said, you know, we're going to
wait for the right opportunity to get it right at quarterback,
it's sort of freed them up to build in a
really really interesting way.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
Albert, I want to ask you about some of your
other stops. I believe you're at the Bengals camp as well.
You weren't there when when Joey b went down?
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Were you?
Speaker 6 (45:04):
No, I was there a couple of days.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
After, okay, And what's their sentiment and feeling on the injury.
And then the other team I'm really interested in is
the Titans. I believe you were there as well, which
they get d hop Tannehills played really well during the
course of the preseason, but it seems like with the
Will Levis draft pick and leak Willis the year before,
like they're trying to kind of push him out right.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
Sure, so yeah, and the Bengals, I'd say, you know,
I think that that and this is based on my
timelines as other players, but you know, like I know
other players that have had similar injuries to the cat
strain that joe suffered. It's like a four to six
week injury. And you know, but I didn't send it's
much concern that he's going to be out for the opener.
I don't think you'll see him for a couple more weeks.
(45:45):
But I my sense was coming out of there either
fast feel or now this is a little different. You know.
One thing that was kind of expining to me is,
you know, obviously it's much different than the APPENDEDCE site
is last year, and it's even different than the ACL.
You know, it's just he hasn't gone through this type
of injury, but he's typically a fast heeler. As for
the Titans, yeah, I mean it's an interesting spot there,
(46:09):
mean because you know, they felt like going in with
a new general manager and Ran Carson, that they had
to reset the cap a little and there was some
agent their roster, and they changed a bunch of things,
and I think the one thing that they are leaning
on to carry them through and you can see it
the way they trastice Brady. I mean, I you know,
(46:30):
like it's it. I mean, it's not what practice was,
It's not what football practice was in the NFL fifteen
years ago, but it's probably the closest thing. You know,
the identity is still there. And I you know, I
talked to Ryan a little bit, you know, at the
end of their practice, and he's super motivated. I mean,
he's going into a contract gear. He knows the score,
(46:51):
you know, he knows that they've drafted two guys in
the top hundred picks the last two years into his room.
And you know, I think he's he's he's primed for
a really good year and he's really you know what's
interesting is, and I don't think a lot of people
have sort of realized this, but they're changing sort of
schematically what they're doing offensively a little bit too, and
going to more of like from what had been like
(47:13):
a Shanahan style of offense to a little bit more
of like the Bill O'Brien Patriot type of offense with
Tim Kelly being the offensive coordinator. And Tannehill feels like
that's going to bring out the best in him because
it's going to give him a little bit more control,
you know what happens at the line, so you know,
I know you're going to see a motivated run. And
I think I think I think he's going to be
(47:34):
their quarterback this year. I don't think Levister Willis will
overtake him.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
And that'll give him a leg up too on the
younger quarterbacks who are getting into the NFL trying to
learn a system that there are going to be as
comfortable with what they're seeing out there as Tannehill.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Will be with all his experience.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
So it plays an advantage too with the next guy
maybe nipping on a seals or not in this case,
right right.
Speaker 6 (47:56):
Yeah, I mean I certainly, you know, and I'm graid
you played in that offense, you know, and Tim Kelly
Gerve the coordinator like worked under Bill O'Brian a bunch,
which is where he learned it. But it's absolutely more
mentally demanding on the on the quarterback. That's the Shanahan offenses.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
Yeah, I love that offense. Albert Cue followup real quick,
I know we're up against it. Just your thoughts on
the Big Ten everything that's happening right now. I know
you've tweeted a little bit about it, so I'm curious
to get your thoughts on what you're seeing in college football.
Speaker 6 (48:22):
Doesn't it feel like doesn't it feel like the Big
ten's just eating the Pac twelve and now we're going
to have like the Big Ten championship games can be
with the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
You know what, literally eating the pack.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
I kind of felt like the Pac twelve was more
like starving itself and the Big Ten was like, Hey,
here's some food and then everyone came running, you know.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
I kind of feel like that's a little more of
the way I describe it.
Speaker 6 (48:46):
I mean, I don't know, I guess it's natural evolution
and everything else, but it's just it's I don't know,
like I really at the end of all of this,
like I don't know who really wins, you know what
I mean? Like obviously the television works and there are
a lot of people who can get rich out of this,
but I'm just not sure, Like are the schools winners?
(49:07):
Are the players winners? Are the fans winners?
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Like?
Speaker 6 (49:10):
Is this better than what we've had? And maybe I'm stuck.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
In traditional sounds scared? Sounds like you're scared to get
like in there and Washington.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Are you scared of going on the road?
Speaker 5 (49:22):
Who would be?
Speaker 6 (49:23):
Who would Who in the world would I be scared of?
Speaker 3 (49:25):
I'm just I'm asking, like you sound like you're like,
I don't know. I'm a traditionalist. I don't really want
that long.
Speaker 6 (49:30):
I am a little are you for it?
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Time zone changes? I just I don't know. It is
a long ass flight, A long flight, I will say.
Speaker 6 (49:39):
I will say I feel bad for the field, honey. Players,
Like people are gonna be like schlepping throw hair on
a Tuesday in October?
Speaker 3 (49:47):
I mean, I mean, aren't they already doing that anyway? O? Hair?
Like would you think that it's it's it's going to
be like when they're connecting another odd airports trying to
like make it to the West coast.
Speaker 6 (49:56):
I mean, I just can't imagine. I don't you see,
I don't even know the answer this, Bray, do you
would know the answer to this?
Speaker 3 (50:02):
Now?
Speaker 6 (50:02):
What are you two? Like do what the revenue sports?
Speaker 4 (50:07):
No, in most cases they'll fly commercial, right, so would
take a bus?
Speaker 6 (50:12):
I mean, I mean, I mean, like, how does all right,
so Arizona goes to Big twelve, Like, how how do
you get from two soon to Morgantown?
Speaker 4 (50:21):
Well you might be able to fly direct a pit.
If you can't, you're going to connect once there and
drive from.
Speaker 6 (50:26):
Pitt Right, So you'd fly like Tucson to like d
f W df W to Pittsburgh and then like driving
for an hour.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Yeah, hey, Albert, Albert, welcome to my weekly travel for
Big New Kickoff pal. That's usually how where it's it's
it's two flights in a drive.
Speaker 6 (50:41):
Mostly Yeah, but you don't have like psychology one on
one at seven am the next morning?
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Right?
Speaker 3 (50:47):
Well, No, I've actually had an MBA I've been working on.
So I would like to how about them apples. Ha ha,
how about the apples?
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah you did, Yeah, Albert, we appreciate it. Get him
on Twitter at Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter at the MMQB.
Enjoy your time there in Seattle. Scot out the place,
because maybe Ohio State'll have to be playing Washington in
a couple of years.
Speaker 6 (51:11):
Out there, right, that's right, that's right, guys. I'm coming
to you live from Big ten country.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
Here would be Big ted country. Huh. Go catch a salmon,
Go catch a big fish or something.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
All right, good talking to you there. It is Albert
Breer on a nice clean phone line out in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
There country, good service.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
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