November 10, 2023 • 36 mins
The NFL almost sets a dangerous precedent by fining a player for self-reporting a concussion. Brady previews this week in college football with Quinn’s Wins, plus a look ahead to the biggest games in the NFL on “Pix Against the Spread.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Let's get this, punies, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, what you know about Lucy App?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I don't know. We Deep, yeah, super deep on a Friday,
Deep and the Bird. We Super Deep. Maybe.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Oh yeah, you're in the four one two right.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Four one two? Baby? Well, I'm in having two four
right now. I was in the four one two yesterday
all up in the four one two. I went saw
my old house. I hadn't seen where I grew up
in many, many, many years, man, So that was really cool.
I got a couple, I got my business partners with me,
and I showed them where my parents grew up, where
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my mom my dad grew up. I showed them where
I grew up. We went got some haircuts. It was good.
It was cool day. It was a really really really
cool day. I tried. In fact, I had to hold
back tears, man, you know, like almost, but I did
not have my mom here in Pennsylvania to you know,
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run up to them.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Oh geez, jump into her arms. Oh man, you know,
let it go. But I did get I definitely did
good emotional. Hey, you know what I was thinking about
with this Lange Kiffin thing. By the way, where were
the parents? Do we know where the parents were in
all of this?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
No, no, it.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Doesn't talk about in the article.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah that would be I think that would be a
very important piece of information too. But yeah, I got
a little emotional when I was here, and then it
was it was pretty cool man. I had found out
that a couple of dudes that I was really really
cool with growing up, they had passed away. And it
was a it was a sobering moment because they were
they're literally only like one or two years older than me.
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So it was uh heavy, it was pretty heavy. Yeah,
it was pretty heavy man. So but it was it
was cool. You know, we were reliving moments and talking about,
you know, the past, and but yeah, it was cool.
It's cool being back home. It's always cool coming back home.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
How did you just find out that they passed?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
All right? So you do you have friends that you
grew up with that you were really close with, but
like you lost contact with them after you left that school.
Like say it was grade school. You were really close
with somebody in grade school, but then you you kind
of lost contact with them because well, you went to
middle school and then you lost contact with somebody. You know,
some of your friends that you were with when you
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went to high school, and then so on and so forth.
You know, I don't I don't really have friends that
I keep up with that we talk on a daily
basis and we're really close. I'm really close with from
from high school to middle school to grade school. So
but I'm still close with my barber and I see,
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like you know, parents and stuff like that. So when
I went to Dave's, shouts out to Daves barber. Shot.
I went to Daves yesterday. When you go to Dave's,
you know the old heads always in there. And one
of my old heads that you know, Ralo, that that
I'm always around police officers, used to be a police officer.
As I was asking I was like, you know, how,
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how's Daryl doing da da da? He's like, man, Daryl
passed away six years ago. Man I was, and that
just did Like I was like, man, like it just
you know, And then I asked about another another dude
that was like a hero to me on the youth
basketball team, and he had passed away too, So it was,
you know, and it wasn't due to valance or anything
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like that, but it was, you know, one had passed
away of a heart attack, and it was just it
was a sobering thought, man, to think that somebody my
age that I was super cool with had passed away
and had passed away of a heart attack. So you know,
that's how I found out though I was in the barbershop.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Dude, I don't know if I like because of when
I was young. I lost some grandparents when I was young,
and the Bone Thugs in Harmony like See at the
Crossroads like always plays my head when people start talking
about people dying.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
I don't know why, but like it always plays my.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
Head when people start talking about what's that and it's
a real it's a real relevant it's a real relevant.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Song though too, you know, yeah, as you start thinking
about I'm a I mean, am I going to see
them at the cross road? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Yeah, you.
Speaker 8 (05:05):
Know what when somebody dies first song, I think of this,
that's for sure.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
I mean is that? I mean I love it. On
the same page, Yes.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I'm on the same page as Uq Jonas is is
Joan Inge is what he's doing.
Speaker 8 (05:21):
Well, I just se you know, I travel light. You know,
the people in my life are important to me. I
keep them close. We talk often, we talk frequently.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
Yeah, I'll be honest with you, man, like I feel
like I've got some the people obviously you grew up
with like that, but then they kind of just become
more like acquaintances as you grow apart.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
You know, I don't know how you categorize people like.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
That, like childhood friends. Yeah, I don't have I don't
have what, I don't really have best friends. I don't
have best friends.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Well, I know you got no new friends. I know you're.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Definitely don't have really no new friends. Yeah, yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 8 (05:59):
You know, I think, uh, you know, I think it's
important that you know, you keep people close to you
that are the ones that are meant to be close
and everybody else screw them.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yea that I don't really subscribe. I don't really subscribe
to that, but I could dig what you're saying.
Speaker 8 (06:14):
List travel light, you know, every everything's carry on for me.
I'm not checking bags in you know what I mean, Brady,
not about that check bag life.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I don't really know what the hell that means.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
But he's he's trying because I always give him a
hard time because he's the worst.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Yea, the hell, No, I don't check my bag.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
And on top of that, you like, you know, he
can't read signs, he doesn't know where bathrooms are. He's like,
I need to get this, I need this, I need
like he always needs something. I'm like, dude, just figure
it out, like be an adult, get to your get
to the plane on time.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Let's just figure it out.
Speaker 8 (06:54):
But the thing is, if I needed something, but no,
and you can you can mock the way I talk here,
and you can do.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
That if you were just mocking me for having friends.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
No, I mean that.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I'm not like that. I'm not close through the years.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
I just don't.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
It's not listen.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
I just think that if they're friends, you know, there
wouldn't be a six year gap in the conversation like that.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
That's the way I look at it.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I talk like, so you don't have people that you
were cool with, that that you would consider a friend.
Like if I saw I give them a hug and
it's like great to see, man, how you been house
life doing? And you don't talk like you don't talk
to them.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Oh no, God, get away from me. Yeah, Like I
don't know you anymore.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
Different like you Yeah, but you spend a lot of
time on the East coast now you live on the
West coast. Like the time difference and the and the
and the distance away from certain people, like.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
You're naturally gonna grow apart.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
That's why, Like when you talk about long distance relationships,
that stuff never works, Like eventually someone's got to move,
Like someone's gotta make that like you just you can't
make that work between two people. It's hard to make
that work with friendships. Like you started being three hours
to the time difference. It never times up.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I talk. I worry about my family and my business
during the course of a day. Family and business during
the course of a day. And like if you're not
within my family circle, and if something were to happen
to you, I would I would have no way of knowing.
I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know, like unless I'm like
I didn't say they were like I was close close,
(08:24):
Like we talked every single day, and we spent the
night at each other's homes all the time, and this,
that and the other. I said, they were friends like
I grew up around them. We grew up around each other,
and we were friends like we were you know. So
then you see somebody, you ask abouttle, how's my boy
doing this, that and the other. And that was what
I got. Like it had nothing to do with carry
(08:46):
and luggage and checking it in and killy and light luggage.
And I say, if I ain't talked to them and
through them and all that, like that's a whole lot.
Speaker 8 (08:54):
That's but that was my point, Like, you know, I
travel light, so light that if I'm going to get
to someplace, I'm not flying there a drive and I'm
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Speaker 4 (09:16):
All right, yess if I was, if I was like
emotionally sensitive Jonas, I might have started crying right now
because I feel like you're attacking me.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Would you have jumped in my arms?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Would I feel like I feel like I might have
had to disappear on our show for at least three
weeks and let you know that I did not want
to speak with y'all because I'm dealing with emotional and
mental health issues based upon the way you just treat it.
Speaker 8 (09:39):
Well, that's that's a great call. We can't lane. Could
somebody explain to me why a player in the NFL
was fined fifty thousand dollars for allegedly faking a concussion, Like,
I'm really confused by this because JC treader sent out
this message yesterday saying a player was told to go
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down by the medical staff, he returned later on in
the game and was fined fifty thousand dollars. What am
I missing here? Why is this happening in the NFL?
Fifty grand for this?
Speaker 7 (10:14):
I mean, I think they don't want people faking injuries,
but they also don't want them to abuse what is
the concussion protocol A slippery slope. I'm gonna ask guys
to self report, which in this instance they didn't name
the player, but they said this is what happened. The
player came in, self reported, went through the concussion protocol,
and then was cleared after a couple series to go
(10:35):
back in and play.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
And yet he was fine for that.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
So I'm I think you're gonna end up finding more
guys not wanting to tell anyone about any issues they're
dealing with. If that's all you're gonna have to handle
it now. The fine was eventually rescinded once they appealed.
But to go through that process, man like to feel
like you're doing everything that you're being asked to do.
In the next week, you get an envelope from fedexit
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here in your life and you're gonna find.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Fifty thousand dollars. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Man.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Like the NFL, the certain things they.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Try to focus on and harp on with players, it's
crazy to me. Compared to where they're they're I would
say their thought process really should be.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I'll say this, how do you fake a concussion? Because
last I checked people don't even really understand how complex
the whole process of a concussion is. It's such a
broad spectrum of symptoms and things that could come from
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a concussed state. So how exactly are you considered to
be faking it? That's that's kind of that sounds strange
to me because if you're saying I'm feeling I don't
feel right, like you're gonna determine that, okay, because you
passed concussion protocol or test and you're cleared that you
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can feel you can't feel like something isn't right or
something isn't correct. And if you even if you categorize
it as you a person, you're not qualified to say, yeah,
I'm concussed or I'm not. So that it comes back
to your original point Q, Like, if i feel like
I'm having symptoms, I can't sleep, or I'm having headaches
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or whatever it may be, and you're concerned about it,
and you think it may be concussion symptoms, why would
you feel like you have to not say anything due
to the fact that you might get fined for it,
you might get in trouble for it. Like that seems
strange to me. Man, Just be honest with you. It
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seems like almost either something is missing from the story
or someone really really grossly handled this incorrectly in terms of,
you know, a player is still supposed to let you
know if something doesn't feel right.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I mean the final that's the point.
Speaker 8 (13:03):
It was rescinded because the NFL did look back at
it and realize, okay, well, you know, we'll go ahead
and uh and not find you. But the fact that
like there was even a temporary thought of we care
about concussion protocol. This is important to us. We care
about concussions. He's following the rules from the medical staff,
as Brady pointed out, and then you know, opens up
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his locker and he's got a they we're gonna go
ahead and take fifty grand off your check.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I just don't I don't understand.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
They really don't get it. But you know, listen, it's
the NFL. They're throwing something on our lap every single day.
And then we'd discuss it and just go back to
watching football like we did last night, which, by the way,
can I say this, did anybody else notice the audition
of Jason Kelcey there on Amazon Prime. I mean, he
was up in the booth with al Michaels and Kirk
kurb Street. I'm telling you right now, he's they're either
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setting him up to be the third guy in that
booth next season, or there's he's gonna have some involvement
there on his bye week, he shows up to Thursday
Night Football, there's gonna be some he's gonna be a
part of that broadcast next year.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I'm telling you, there's some super charismatic dudes. Man, there
are some. I mean, just you got to give them credit,
give them prost. You know, how to communicate.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Offensive linemen of the best.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
They are really and some of them more so than
than others, you know, But yeah, man, give them, give
them propers. Man.
Speaker 8 (14:29):
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edition of our Picks against the Spread.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
We are going to spread them.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
And there's a lot of people who are telling us, no, no, no,
do over unders. No, you guys got to do over unders.
And we refuse to do over unders on this show,
even though people are trying to throw it in our
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absolutely we are defiant against over unders.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Today.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
We are going to do our Picks against the Spread
here coming up in about twenty minutes from now.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Ain't that rightly? I'm all over the place on the
rundown today, kidding, who cares? Bust a ball?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Jonas is Jonas? You're up to like ninety dollars in.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Five today, bro, Like, come on, you're like.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
In a rare mood right now. Bro. I tell it
all in your voice and the things that you're doing,
and you're saying you good, We're good.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I wish I was the ed leak Sam. Why don't
y'all give him a hug on break Man? Like he
definitely needs a hug.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
He doesn't need it. He threw a pen at me
during the break. I did hope in the eye.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Nice big You know we work together closely every single day. Man,
Like I'm sensing something here with you, bro. Oh yeah,
I need a hug.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Man listens Friday. It's football Friday.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Oh oh oh that's your okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Fired up?
Speaker 8 (17:15):
Actually you know what I am doing right now though,
And Lee can confirm this. Lee, what am I doing
right now?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
It puts the lotion on it on the skin, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
It.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Skin. It does this whenever it's tall, soft ass lotion boy.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yeah, I'm gonna put this on for three weeks and not.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
To Why do you be trying to like sound like
me when I say stuff that I say to you,
I don't sound like that. You do know that?
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Right?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
How do you sound? How do you think you sound
when you say I.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Don't sound like that? Look at those hands, baby boy.
Speaker 8 (17:49):
By the way, be a clip that went viral where
you were criticizing Caleb Williams. People were chiming out on
the comments. Jonas is a soft ass lotion boy. So
there's that, by the way. So we are going to
have our picks against the spread in twenty minutes from now.
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Speaker 3 (18:36):
It's time for Quinns Wins. Let's go.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
All right, let's get this thing started.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
As I sit here in Happy Valley State College, Penn State.
We're not going to start though, though, even though that
is the early game of the day on Fox at
twelve pm Eastern, we are going to start in Columbia, Missouri,
as the number thirteen Tennessee Volunteers take on the Missouri Tigers,
number fourteen in the rankings. Look, last two years, Tennessee
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has dominated this matchup, absolutely blowing out the Missouri targets.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
This is a different story though. This year. This Missoo
team is much better.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
They've got a balanced attack with Cody Strader at the
running back spot nearly at the thousand yard mark this season,
and Brady Cook able to impact ut in the vertical
passing game. But Josh Heipe and his team they've been
able to find their way this year on the ground.
They're the number one rushing offense in the SEC. Number
one rush defense as well. We're gonna put a lot
of pressure on Brady Cook and Maszoo to see if
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they can throw the football create some of the big
plays that Tennessee has been known for over the past
couple of seasons in this matchup. Also, Tennessee getting a
number of players back healthy for this matchup. Their blowout
over Yukon last week allowed them to rest many of
their starters as well. This line is sitting at one
and a half points, the Tigers the home underdog. I
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think this is the year that Maszoo comes close but
not quite enough. You laid the point in the half
here With Tennessee, I think they've got too much on
both sides of the ball up front, creating press Shawmazoo.
Unfortunate for Eli Drinkwitz and crew. It'll be another defeat,
but this one a close one. Let's stay in the
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SEC and we'll go to another big one down in Athens, Georgia.
Old Miss take it on the nine to zero number
two ranked undefeated Bulldogs and Georgia, even though they've been
without Brock Bowers, they've showcased is still the offensive firepower
that we're accustomed seeing for a team that hasn't lost
in three years.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
In fact, the last head coach an.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
SEC play to beat the Bulldogs was Will muss Champ
back at South Carolina. He's now coaching not George's defensive staff,
so not necessarily gonna share any secrets with old Lane
Kiff and an old Miss. Even though Old Miss has
been an offensive juggernaut Jackson Dark Jakwan, excuse me Quin,
Shawn Jenkins, the running back, Trey Harris and Bentley at
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the wide receiver spots. George has just been too much
so far this year for most opponents, and they will
be for Old Miss and Bronck Boweries maybe back for
this one after suffering the hig ankle spraying and have
the tightrope surgery. There's a thought that he could play
either way. In Athens, George is a different animal. Lay
the eleven points with the Bulldogs next up a battle
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at three point thirty pm Eastern in the PAC twelve,
Utah headed to Seattle to take on the undefeated number
five away ranked Washington Huskies, and a little different win
last week than we're a customer is seeing over USC,
even though it was pennex through the year throwing for
four touchdown passes, Dylan Johnson and the UB rush offense
went off over two hundred and fifty yards on the ground,
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and it will be a different challenge this week though,
taking on the number one total in scoring defense in
the PAC twelve in Utah. This one, to me, even
though the Huskies are playing at home, feels like it's
gonna be the type of game where Kyle Whittingham goes
in there slow down, the game ends up trying to
control the game running the football. Price at Barnes very
capable to of making some plays in the past the game.
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We've seen this U Dove defense too give up a
number of points forty two last week to USC and
Caleb Williams, So I like taking Utah on the points here,
the eight and a half points that they're getting on
the road. I think Utah can keep this one within
the number. Washington's played a lot of close games over
the course of the last four weeks too, so even though
they're running games getting on tap, the defense still has
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had a hard time stepping up.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
And finally the big one on Fox.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Number three, Michigan undefeated at nine to zero, headed two
Happy Valley to take on the number ten Penn State
Nittany Lions Man. This one a year ago was slated
very similar Michigan was hosting Penn State. At at that
point in time, Penn State was one of the top
defenses in the country and gave up almost three hundred
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and forty yards to Donovan Edwards to play corum alone.
I think that rush defense for me or for Penn
State will be tested once again. That being said, the
difference maker could be Drew Aller for Penn State, who
passed for two hundred and four yards and four touchdowns
most recently versus Maryland.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Two very evenly.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
Matched teams, and this is one where the spread looks
a little bit too big to me Penn State getting.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
Five and a half points at home.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
This number has actually grown over the course of the
week and open on four to four and a half.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Depending on the book.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
You're at I like taking Penn State and the points here.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Michigan's been largely on tested this season.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
In fact, their margin of victory the closest is twenty
four points. That's how dominant Michigan has been this year.
Jason McCarthy's playing on a different level, playing as a
Heisman candidate.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
So it's gonna be a tough challenge for Penn State.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
But take the five and a half points and the
Nittany Lions as they've been trying to make a case
for getting back into the Big ten race.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
There it is, that's how it's done.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
What it is, how it's done. Told you different than smacking.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Yeah, now there's some technical issues over here. Try to
do our best with this.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
There's a little you know, this is what we do.
We're just trying to you know, just stay in the fight.
Stay in the fight. It's a three hour event here
on the show, so we just got to stay focused,
ma stay locked in. Now, you mentioned that the line
grew to five and a half.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Why do you want to stay focused on that? Jonas?
That's ten dollars right there. There?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
You go a second, you don't even know what I'm
finishing with you.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
So, but I'm saying that the line in a lot
of places has come back down to.
Speaker 11 (24:38):
Four and a half.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
The Lion, the line has come back down to foreign.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Not seeing that quite as much.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, I'm seeing it basically everywhere that it's four and
a half.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Yeah, well, I could say one of y'all think correct.
One is who is it?
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Jonas literally doesn't ever refresh some of this stuff.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
But a lot of the books are somewhere flowing between
four and a half and five and a half, depends
on where you're looking. But the one of the most
recent looking at, it's up to five and a half
and some.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Yeah, well, listen, what are you looking at, Jonas.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
I'm looking at four and a half across the board
except for one. Except for one spot, there's a five
and a half.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
And that's the one that hughes looking.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
I can promise you it's it's it's not four and
a half across the board. It's irrelevant because here's how
it works. Books are going to take money on both
sides of the bets. So if you could shop around
you and you like Penn State, obviously you got to
take those you want to take the extra point point
a half you can find it.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
If not, and you.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Maybe like Michigan, you sit there in four and a half.
That's not a great number for Michigan either way, but
it's it's a huge different difference in betting standards if
you can find a point difference between books.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
Now, let me ask you guys a hypothetical. Let's say,
and LeVar, I'm just thrown out a hypothetical here, all right,
So I'm not looking to get attacked.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
No, that's going to be ten dollars because you're not
looking to get attacked. That's a very strong word.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Well, can we rescind it like we do with concussions
in the NFL, Like we'll just rescind that please?
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (26:07):
All yeah, but I'm going through a lot. Give me
three weeks and I'll pay you back.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Okay. Let me just let me just say this, what
if it kind of looks like.
Speaker 8 (26:19):
It looked against Ohio State and the offense just can't
get it together?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Possible?
Speaker 8 (26:27):
Okay, So what are we talking about as far as
potential changes that could take place in state college? If
again they've got all this talent but still can't seem
to get over the hump and beat the Ohio States
and Michigan's of the Big Ten.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
I mean again, I think you have to keep things
in a proper perspective. Okay, what are they ranked? What's
Michigan ranked three? Okay? What was Ohio State? What was
Ohio State ranked when we played them?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Oh, they were three.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
What are they ranked now?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Number one?
Speaker 6 (27:06):
One?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Okay, So if you're losing it, like, let's let's keep
this in the proper perspective. If your only two losses
are coming to teams that are.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Ranked that high, why did like fit?
Speaker 4 (27:19):
You keep working to figure out how you beat them.
You don't sit there and go away. If those are
the only two teams you're losing to, you don't go
away from what got you to the point where, which,
by the way, was a very competitive game in Columbus.
Our offense just couldn't get it going. If they can't
get it going against one like, and let's keep this
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in mind.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
The defenses are are.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Phenomenal two Ohio State's defense phenomenal, Michigan's defense phenomenal. So
I mean to me, it's like, what are we really
talking about here? You know, there are teams that are
ranked higher than Penn State right now, that have a
loss and it's not even to a ranked team. It's
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not even to a ranked team. But we lose to
a number three ranked team, and we slide in the
in the standings. Like it's fine that that's how it's
being looked at, and that's how it's being rated, I guess.
But at the end of the day, I'm not going
to sit here and be like, oh, calling for this
person's job and calling for this person's head. And our
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only two lots, our only two losses a year ago,
and our only loss this year is to a team
that's in the top five. Like, come on, man, that's like,
let's be real here.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
I get it. I get it.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
I mean I'll say this though, because you are a
Penn State guy and all that, so I can kind
of take a different approach to it.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
I was very frustrated with your offense during that game.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I was too, I mean I was.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
They started to find their rhythm and flow when they
started to go in two minute Drew Aller to throw
the football round, start to push the ball more down
the field, and I think you see spurts of that
you saw versus Maryland, but you don't see it quite enough.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
And I think they have the talent to do it.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
I just think they're resistant to do it from a
play calling perspective because of who the OC is and
his identity. And I think the thing that concerns me
about Penn State in the position that they're in in
this case is last year, Penn States the number one
rush defense in the Big Ten. Right now, Okay, last year,
I believe going into the game, same thing. They didn't
give up more than one hundred and nineteen yards up
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until that point.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
They give up four hundred and eighteen to Michigan.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
They went from one to like sixth in the Big Ten.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Yeah, and the first half. I don't know what happened,
what the breakdown was in the second half of that game,
because they had a really they had a strong showing
in the first half.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
And they've had a strong showing so far this year.
Is this year as well.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
I mean, the one team that ran on a decent
them out was West Virginia to begin the season, and
then since then they really haven't been able to play
anyone who could run the football effectively versus them. However,
I will say this, I don't know how many teams
that they've played so far that you're looking at as
one of the top rushing teams. For example, Ohio State
(30:20):
is seventh in the Big Ten and rushing, so that's
arguab But I think you'd say has been their biggest
test so far running the football. Everyone else they've played
has been somewhere behind. The Maryland actually rushed for negative
yards when you include kind of the sacks and everything
else and the way that game went. But my point
is this is that's what concerns me moving forward. I
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think for Penn State is I remember watching last year.
I thought they were better in the interior and particularly
because you had Mustafer there. And it's gonna be a
big time challenge I think versus Michigan, and especially the
interior of the defense versus the interior of the Michigan
offensive line. Like, that's where my eyes are gonna go.
If you get like I think Penn State's built to
bet Ohio State. You've got the edge rushers, you've got
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the ability to cover down on the outside, to cover
the talent that they have. Michigan's a change up to
a lot of teams because they'll sit there and say
we're not gonna get a shootout with you the way
you want to. We're just gonna methodically pound the ball
down your throat. We're gonna put multiple tight ends on
the field and run the ball, and run the ball
and run.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
The ball until you can't take it anymore. It's been effective.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
I think that plays. I think that plays into this
year's team more so than last year's team. I think
that plays into our favor to play against the road.
I think the difference I honestly believe the difference in
that Ohio State game was the same difference that has
been in pretty much every game for Ohio State, which
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is Marvin Harrison junior. He's been the difference and I
don't see one of those on Michigan's team. So if
we stop, they've got to. That's the different they're in
the backfield. Yeah, I think we'll be able to handle that.
They don't have somebody that opens it up to me
down Still, Harrison Junior does well.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
I guess I'll say this, The Michigan have those guys
last year on the.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Outside, Yeah, but we didn't have the developed depth of
interior d lineman that we do this year. It's it's different,
like we're they wore us down last year. They're not
going to wear this team down. This outfit is not
going to get worn down by the run. It's too
good of a rotation that they have, and they're they're
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just as good. The second second guys coming in are
just as good as the first ones up front, So
I don't see that being being an issue. They're gonna
have to prove that. That's how I look at it.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
It's gonna be fun as hell to watch.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
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Speaker 2 (34:03):
Five lines, not those kind of lines. Five picks, five spreads.
Time for picks against the spread.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
All right, guys, let's kick off Week ten. We got starting.
Speaker 11 (34:15):
Off forty nine Ers and Jaguar.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
We're not both coming off of bye week. Niners are
three point favorites out at Jacksonville. I got the Jags.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
That line looks so funky, though, I'm gonna take the
forty nine ers and lay the points.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
It doesn't make sense, I know, shouldn't be that big
of a spread. Jacks have been good.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
So the Jags are given three points in this game.
They can lose by three points.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, they can lose by three, but no more than three.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Yeah, I'm gonna take the Niners to cover.
Speaker 11 (34:51):
Next one up, Browns and Ravens.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Ravens coming off of four game winning streak. Ravens are
six and a half point favorites at Homer's.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
The Browns land the points. Take the Browns in this one.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
God, why a Yeah, I'll go bal To.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
I've got the Ravens. I've got the Ravens. Just make
sure you got I got you.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah, I'll go Brady.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
Who do you have the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, I got Baltimore as.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Well too, Which means you guys think that the Ravens
are going to cover?
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Yeah more than.
Speaker 11 (35:25):
Saints said Vikings.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
Saints standing the way of the Vikings in their fifth
straight win. Saints are three point favorites on the road
at Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Take a Minnesota. Hottest team in the league.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
Man, I lost cam Akers though for the season. I'm
with Jonas. I'll go ahead and I'll take the points
in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
No, I'm gonna take the Saints.
Speaker 11 (35:47):
Damn Giant, said Cowboys.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
Big line here, Cowboys seven Cowboys favorites at home, can
land the points with.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
The Cowboys seventeen points?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yeah No, I'm gonna take the Giants all one.
Speaker 11 (36:00):
Lions said Chargers.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Lions three point favorites on the road.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
Chargers Go Bolts, Chargers, Chargers taking them.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Take the Lion,
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Let's get this, punies, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, what you know about Lucy App?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I don't know. We Deep, yeah, super deep on a Friday,
Deep and the Bird. We Super Deep. Maybe.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Oh yeah, you're in the four one two right.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Four one two? Baby? Well, I'm in having two four
right now. I was in the four one two yesterday
all up in the four one two. I went saw
my old house. I hadn't seen where I grew up
in many, many, many years, man, So that was really cool.
I got a couple, I got my business partners with me,
and I showed them where my parents grew up, where
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my mom my dad grew up. I showed them where
I grew up. We went got some haircuts. It was good.
It was cool day. It was a really really really
cool day. I tried. In fact, I had to hold
back tears, man, you know, like almost, but I did
not have my mom here in Pennsylvania to you know,
(01:41):
run up to them.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Oh geez, jump into her arms. Oh man, you know,
let it go. But I did get I definitely did
good emotional. Hey, you know what I was thinking about
with this Lange Kiffin thing. By the way, where were
the parents? Do we know where the parents were in
all of this?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
No, no, it.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Doesn't talk about in the article.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah that would be I think that would be a
very important piece of information too. But yeah, I got
a little emotional when I was here, and then it
was it was pretty cool man. I had found out
that a couple of dudes that I was really really
cool with growing up, they had passed away. And it
was a it was a sobering moment because they were
they're literally only like one or two years older than me.
(02:26):
So it was uh heavy, it was pretty heavy. Yeah,
it was pretty heavy man. So but it was it
was cool. You know, we were reliving moments and talking about,
you know, the past, and but yeah, it was cool.
It's cool being back home. It's always cool coming back home.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
How did you just find out that they passed?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
All right? So you do you have friends that you
grew up with that you were really close with, but
like you lost contact with them after you left that school.
Like say it was grade school. You were really close
with somebody in grade school, but then you you kind
of lost contact with them because well, you went to
middle school and then you lost contact with somebody. You know,
some of your friends that you were with when you
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went to high school, and then so on and so forth.
You know, I don't I don't really have friends that
I keep up with that we talk on a daily
basis and we're really close. I'm really close with from
from high school to middle school to grade school. So
but I'm still close with my barber and I see,
(03:31):
like you know, parents and stuff like that. So when
I went to Dave's, shouts out to Daves barber. Shot.
I went to Daves yesterday. When you go to Dave's,
you know the old heads always in there. And one
of my old heads that you know, Ralo, that that
I'm always around police officers, used to be a police officer.
As I was asking I was like, you know, how,
(03:52):
how's Daryl doing da da da? He's like, man, Daryl
passed away six years ago. Man I was, and that
just did Like I was like, man, like it just
you know, And then I asked about another another dude
that was like a hero to me on the youth
basketball team, and he had passed away too, So it was,
you know, and it wasn't due to valance or anything
(04:14):
like that, but it was, you know, one had passed
away of a heart attack, and it was just it
was a sobering thought, man, to think that somebody my
age that I was super cool with had passed away
and had passed away of a heart attack. So you know,
that's how I found out though I was in the barbershop.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Dude, I don't know if I like because of when
I was young. I lost some grandparents when I was young,
and the Bone Thugs in Harmony like See at the
Crossroads like always plays my head when people start talking
about people dying.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
I don't know why, but like it always plays my.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
Head when people start talking about what's that and it's
a real it's a real relevant it's a real relevant.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Song though too, you know, yeah, as you start thinking
about I'm a I mean, am I going to see
them at the cross road? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Yeah, you.
Speaker 8 (05:05):
Know what when somebody dies first song, I think of this,
that's for sure.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
I mean is that? I mean I love it. On
the same page, Yes.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I'm on the same page as Uq Jonas is is
Joan Inge is what he's doing.
Speaker 8 (05:21):
Well, I just se you know, I travel light. You know,
the people in my life are important to me. I
keep them close. We talk often, we talk frequently.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
Yeah, I'll be honest with you, man, like I feel
like I've got some the people obviously you grew up
with like that, but then they kind of just become
more like acquaintances as you grow apart.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
You know, I don't know how you categorize people like.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
That, like childhood friends. Yeah, I don't have I don't
have what, I don't really have best friends. I don't
have best friends.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Well, I know you got no new friends. I know you're.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Definitely don't have really no new friends. Yeah, yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 8 (05:59):
You know, I think, uh, you know, I think it's
important that you know, you keep people close to you
that are the ones that are meant to be close
and everybody else screw them.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yea that I don't really subscribe. I don't really subscribe
to that, but I could dig what you're saying.
Speaker 8 (06:14):
List travel light, you know, every everything's carry on for me.
I'm not checking bags in you know what I mean, Brady,
not about that check bag life.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I don't really know what the hell that means.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
But he's he's trying because I always give him a
hard time because he's the worst.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Yea, the hell, No, I don't check my bag.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
And on top of that, you like, you know, he
can't read signs, he doesn't know where bathrooms are. He's like,
I need to get this, I need this, I need
like he always needs something. I'm like, dude, just figure
it out, like be an adult, get to your get
to the plane on time.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Let's just figure it out.
Speaker 8 (06:54):
But the thing is, if I needed something, but no,
and you can you can mock the way I talk here,
and you can do.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
That if you were just mocking me for having friends.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
No, I mean that.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I'm not like that. I'm not close through the years.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
I just don't.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
It's not listen.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
I just think that if they're friends, you know, there
wouldn't be a six year gap in the conversation like that.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
That's the way I look at it.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I talk like, so you don't have people that you
were cool with, that that you would consider a friend.
Like if I saw I give them a hug and
it's like great to see, man, how you been house
life doing? And you don't talk like you don't talk
to them.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Oh no, God, get away from me. Yeah, Like I
don't know you anymore.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
Different like you Yeah, but you spend a lot of
time on the East coast now you live on the
West coast. Like the time difference and the and the
and the distance away from certain people, like.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
You're naturally gonna grow apart.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
That's why, Like when you talk about long distance relationships,
that stuff never works, Like eventually someone's got to move,
Like someone's gotta make that like you just you can't
make that work between two people. It's hard to make
that work with friendships. Like you started being three hours
to the time difference. It never times up.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I talk. I worry about my family and my business
during the course of a day. Family and business during
the course of a day. And like if you're not
within my family circle, and if something were to happen
to you, I would I would have no way of knowing.
I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know, like unless I'm like
I didn't say they were like I was close close,
(08:24):
Like we talked every single day, and we spent the
night at each other's homes all the time, and this,
that and the other. I said, they were friends like
I grew up around them. We grew up around each other,
and we were friends like we were you know. So
then you see somebody, you ask abouttle, how's my boy
doing this, that and the other. And that was what
I got. Like it had nothing to do with carry
(08:46):
and luggage and checking it in and killy and light luggage.
And I say, if I ain't talked to them and
through them and all that, like that's a whole lot.
Speaker 8 (08:54):
That's but that was my point, Like, you know, I
travel light, so light that if I'm going to get
to someplace, I'm not flying there a drive and I'm
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Speaker 4 (09:16):
All right, yess if I was, if I was like
emotionally sensitive Jonas, I might have started crying right now
because I feel like you're attacking me.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Would you have jumped in my arms?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Would I feel like I feel like I might have
had to disappear on our show for at least three
weeks and let you know that I did not want
to speak with y'all because I'm dealing with emotional and
mental health issues based upon the way you just treat it.
Speaker 8 (09:39):
Well, that's that's a great call. We can't lane. Could
somebody explain to me why a player in the NFL
was fined fifty thousand dollars for allegedly faking a concussion, Like,
I'm really confused by this because JC treader sent out
this message yesterday saying a player was told to go
(10:03):
down by the medical staff, he returned later on in
the game and was fined fifty thousand dollars. What am
I missing here? Why is this happening in the NFL?
Fifty grand for this?
Speaker 7 (10:14):
I mean, I think they don't want people faking injuries,
but they also don't want them to abuse what is
the concussion protocol A slippery slope. I'm gonna ask guys
to self report, which in this instance they didn't name
the player, but they said this is what happened. The
player came in, self reported, went through the concussion protocol,
and then was cleared after a couple series to go
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back in and play.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
And yet he was fine for that.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
So I'm I think you're gonna end up finding more
guys not wanting to tell anyone about any issues they're
dealing with. If that's all you're gonna have to handle
it now. The fine was eventually rescinded once they appealed.
But to go through that process, man like to feel
like you're doing everything that you're being asked to do.
In the next week, you get an envelope from fedexit
(10:59):
here in your life and you're gonna find.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Fifty thousand dollars. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Man.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Like the NFL, the certain things they.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Try to focus on and harp on with players, it's
crazy to me. Compared to where they're they're I would
say their thought process really should be.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I'll say this, how do you fake a concussion? Because
last I checked people don't even really understand how complex
the whole process of a concussion is. It's such a
broad spectrum of symptoms and things that could come from
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a concussed state. So how exactly are you considered to
be faking it? That's that's kind of that sounds strange
to me because if you're saying I'm feeling I don't
feel right, like you're gonna determine that, okay, because you
passed concussion protocol or test and you're cleared that you
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can feel you can't feel like something isn't right or
something isn't correct. And if you even if you categorize
it as you a person, you're not qualified to say, yeah,
I'm concussed or I'm not. So that it comes back
to your original point Q, Like, if i feel like
I'm having symptoms, I can't sleep, or I'm having headaches
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or whatever it may be, and you're concerned about it,
and you think it may be concussion symptoms, why would
you feel like you have to not say anything due
to the fact that you might get fined for it,
you might get in trouble for it. Like that seems
strange to me. Man, Just be honest with you. It
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seems like almost either something is missing from the story
or someone really really grossly handled this incorrectly in terms of,
you know, a player is still supposed to let you
know if something doesn't feel right.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I mean the final that's the point.
Speaker 8 (13:03):
It was rescinded because the NFL did look back at
it and realize, okay, well, you know, we'll go ahead
and uh and not find you. But the fact that
like there was even a temporary thought of we care
about concussion protocol. This is important to us. We care
about concussions. He's following the rules from the medical staff,
as Brady pointed out, and then you know, opens up
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his locker and he's got a they we're gonna go
ahead and take fifty grand off your check.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I just don't I don't understand.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
They really don't get it. But you know, listen, it's
the NFL. They're throwing something on our lap every single day.
And then we'd discuss it and just go back to
watching football like we did last night, which, by the way,
can I say this, did anybody else notice the audition
of Jason Kelcey there on Amazon Prime. I mean, he
was up in the booth with al Michaels and Kirk
kurb Street. I'm telling you right now, he's they're either
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setting him up to be the third guy in that
booth next season, or there's he's gonna have some involvement
there on his bye week, he shows up to Thursday
Night Football, there's gonna be some he's gonna be a
part of that broadcast next year.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I'm telling you, there's some super charismatic dudes. Man, there
are some. I mean, just you got to give them credit,
give them prost. You know, how to communicate.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Offensive linemen of the best.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
They are really and some of them more so than
than others, you know, But yeah, man, give them, give
them propers. Man.
Speaker 8 (14:29):
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Com studios, we are going to have our week ten
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Speaker 3 (16:06):
We are going to spread them.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
And there's a lot of people who are telling us, no, no, no,
do over unders. No, you guys got to do over unders.
And we refuse to do over unders on this show,
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Speaker 6 (16:25):
Today.
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We are going to do our Picks against the Spread
here coming up in about twenty minutes from now.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Ain't that rightly? I'm all over the place on the
rundown today, kidding, who cares? Bust a ball?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Jonas is Jonas? You're up to like ninety dollars in.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Five today, bro, Like, come on, you're like.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
In a rare mood right now. Bro. I tell it
all in your voice and the things that you're doing,
and you're saying you good, We're good.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I wish I was the ed leak Sam. Why don't
y'all give him a hug on break Man? Like he
definitely needs a hug.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
He doesn't need it. He threw a pen at me
during the break. I did hope in the eye.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Nice big You know we work together closely every single day. Man,
Like I'm sensing something here with you, bro. Oh yeah,
I need a hug.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Man listens Friday. It's football Friday.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Oh oh oh that's your okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Fired up?
Speaker 8 (17:15):
Actually you know what I am doing right now though,
And Lee can confirm this. Lee, what am I doing
right now?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
It puts the lotion on it on the skin, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
It.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Skin. It does this whenever it's tall, soft ass lotion boy.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yeah, I'm gonna put this on for three weeks and not.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
To Why do you be trying to like sound like
me when I say stuff that I say to you,
I don't sound like that. You do know that?
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Right?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
How do you sound? How do you think you sound
when you say I.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Don't sound like that? Look at those hands, baby boy.
Speaker 8 (17:49):
By the way, be a clip that went viral where
you were criticizing Caleb Williams. People were chiming out on
the comments. Jonas is a soft ass lotion boy. So
there's that, by the way. So we are going to
have our picks against the spread in twenty minutes from now.
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Speaker 3 (18:36):
It's time for Quinns Wins. Let's go.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
All right, let's get this thing started.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
As I sit here in Happy Valley State College, Penn State.
We're not going to start though, though, even though that
is the early game of the day on Fox at
twelve pm Eastern, we are going to start in Columbia, Missouri,
as the number thirteen Tennessee Volunteers take on the Missouri Tigers,
number fourteen in the rankings. Look, last two years, Tennessee
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has dominated this matchup, absolutely blowing out the Missouri targets.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
This is a different story though. This year. This Missoo
team is much better.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
They've got a balanced attack with Cody Strader at the
running back spot nearly at the thousand yard mark this season,
and Brady Cook able to impact ut in the vertical
passing game. But Josh Heipe and his team they've been
able to find their way this year on the ground.
They're the number one rushing offense in the SEC. Number
one rush defense as well. We're gonna put a lot
of pressure on Brady Cook and Maszoo to see if
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they can throw the football create some of the big
plays that Tennessee has been known for over the past
couple of seasons in this matchup. Also, Tennessee getting a
number of players back healthy for this matchup. Their blowout
over Yukon last week allowed them to rest many of
their starters as well. This line is sitting at one
and a half points, the Tigers the home underdog. I
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think this is the year that Maszoo comes close but
not quite enough. You laid the point in the half
here With Tennessee, I think they've got too much on
both sides of the ball up front, creating press Shawmazoo.
Unfortunate for Eli Drinkwitz and crew. It'll be another defeat,
but this one a close one. Let's stay in the
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SEC and we'll go to another big one down in Athens, Georgia.
Old Miss take it on the nine to zero number
two ranked undefeated Bulldogs and Georgia, even though they've been
without Brock Bowers, they've showcased is still the offensive firepower
that we're accustomed seeing for a team that hasn't lost
in three years.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
In fact, the last head coach an.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
SEC play to beat the Bulldogs was Will muss Champ
back at South Carolina. He's now coaching not George's defensive staff,
so not necessarily gonna share any secrets with old Lane
Kiff and an old Miss. Even though Old Miss has
been an offensive juggernaut Jackson Dark Jakwan, excuse me Quin,
Shawn Jenkins, the running back, Trey Harris and Bentley at
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the wide receiver spots. George has just been too much
so far this year for most opponents, and they will
be for Old Miss and Bronck Boweries maybe back for
this one after suffering the hig ankle spraying and have
the tightrope surgery. There's a thought that he could play
either way. In Athens, George is a different animal. Lay
the eleven points with the Bulldogs next up a battle
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at three point thirty pm Eastern in the PAC twelve,
Utah headed to Seattle to take on the undefeated number
five away ranked Washington Huskies, and a little different win
last week than we're a customer is seeing over USC,
even though it was pennex through the year throwing for
four touchdown passes, Dylan Johnson and the UB rush offense
went off over two hundred and fifty yards on the ground,
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and it will be a different challenge this week though,
taking on the number one total in scoring defense in
the PAC twelve in Utah. This one, to me, even
though the Huskies are playing at home, feels like it's
gonna be the type of game where Kyle Whittingham goes
in there slow down, the game ends up trying to
control the game running the football. Price at Barnes very
capable to of making some plays in the past the game.
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We've seen this U Dove defense too give up a
number of points forty two last week to USC and
Caleb Williams, So I like taking Utah on the points here,
the eight and a half points that they're getting on
the road. I think Utah can keep this one within
the number. Washington's played a lot of close games over
the course of the last four weeks too, so even though
they're running games getting on tap, the defense still has
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had a hard time stepping up.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
And finally the big one on Fox.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Number three, Michigan undefeated at nine to zero, headed two
Happy Valley to take on the number ten Penn State
Nittany Lions Man. This one a year ago was slated
very similar Michigan was hosting Penn State. At at that
point in time, Penn State was one of the top
defenses in the country and gave up almost three hundred
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and forty yards to Donovan Edwards to play corum alone.
I think that rush defense for me or for Penn
State will be tested once again. That being said, the
difference maker could be Drew Aller for Penn State, who
passed for two hundred and four yards and four touchdowns
most recently versus Maryland.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Two very evenly.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
Matched teams, and this is one where the spread looks
a little bit too big to me Penn State getting.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
Five and a half points at home.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
This number has actually grown over the course of the
week and open on four to four and a half.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Depending on the book.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
You're at I like taking Penn State and the points here.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Michigan's been largely on tested this season.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
In fact, their margin of victory the closest is twenty
four points. That's how dominant Michigan has been this year.
Jason McCarthy's playing on a different level, playing as a
Heisman candidate.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
So it's gonna be a tough challenge for Penn State.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
But take the five and a half points and the
Nittany Lions as they've been trying to make a case
for getting back into the Big ten race.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
There it is, that's how it's done.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
What it is, how it's done. Told you different than smacking.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Yeah, now there's some technical issues over here. Try to
do our best with this.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
There's a little you know, this is what we do.
We're just trying to you know, just stay in the fight.
Stay in the fight. It's a three hour event here
on the show, so we just got to stay focused,
ma stay locked in. Now, you mentioned that the line
grew to five and a half.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Why do you want to stay focused on that? Jonas?
That's ten dollars right there. There?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
You go a second, you don't even know what I'm
finishing with you.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
So, but I'm saying that the line in a lot
of places has come back down to.
Speaker 11 (24:38):
Four and a half.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
The Lion, the line has come back down to foreign.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Not seeing that quite as much.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, I'm seeing it basically everywhere that it's four and
a half.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Yeah, well, I could say one of y'all think correct.
One is who is it?
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Jonas literally doesn't ever refresh some of this stuff.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
But a lot of the books are somewhere flowing between
four and a half and five and a half, depends
on where you're looking. But the one of the most
recent looking at, it's up to five and a half
and some.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Yeah, well, listen, what are you looking at, Jonas.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
I'm looking at four and a half across the board
except for one. Except for one spot, there's a five
and a half.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
And that's the one that hughes looking.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
I can promise you it's it's it's not four and
a half across the board. It's irrelevant because here's how
it works. Books are going to take money on both
sides of the bets. So if you could shop around
you and you like Penn State, obviously you got to
take those you want to take the extra point point
a half you can find it.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
If not, and you.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Maybe like Michigan, you sit there in four and a half.
That's not a great number for Michigan either way, but
it's it's a huge different difference in betting standards if
you can find a point difference between books.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
Now, let me ask you guys a hypothetical. Let's say,
and LeVar, I'm just thrown out a hypothetical here, all right,
So I'm not looking to get attacked.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
No, that's going to be ten dollars because you're not
looking to get attacked. That's a very strong word.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Well, can we rescind it like we do with concussions
in the NFL, Like we'll just rescind that please?
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (26:07):
All yeah, but I'm going through a lot. Give me
three weeks and I'll pay you back.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Okay. Let me just let me just say this, what
if it kind of looks like.
Speaker 8 (26:19):
It looked against Ohio State and the offense just can't
get it together?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Possible?
Speaker 8 (26:27):
Okay, So what are we talking about as far as
potential changes that could take place in state college? If
again they've got all this talent but still can't seem
to get over the hump and beat the Ohio States
and Michigan's of the Big Ten.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
I mean again, I think you have to keep things
in a proper perspective. Okay, what are they ranked? What's
Michigan ranked three? Okay? What was Ohio State? What was
Ohio State ranked when we played them?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Oh, they were three.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
What are they ranked now?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Number one?
Speaker 6 (27:06):
One?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Okay, So if you're losing it, like, let's let's keep
this in the proper perspective. If your only two losses
are coming to teams that are.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Ranked that high, why did like fit?
Speaker 4 (27:19):
You keep working to figure out how you beat them.
You don't sit there and go away. If those are
the only two teams you're losing to, you don't go
away from what got you to the point where, which,
by the way, was a very competitive game in Columbus.
Our offense just couldn't get it going. If they can't
get it going against one like, and let's keep this
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in mind.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
The defenses are are.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Phenomenal two Ohio State's defense phenomenal, Michigan's defense phenomenal. So
I mean to me, it's like, what are we really
talking about here? You know, there are teams that are
ranked higher than Penn State right now, that have a
loss and it's not even to a ranked team. It's
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not even to a ranked team. But we lose to
a number three ranked team, and we slide in the
in the standings. Like it's fine that that's how it's
being looked at, and that's how it's being rated, I guess.
But at the end of the day, I'm not going
to sit here and be like, oh, calling for this
person's job and calling for this person's head. And our
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only two lots, our only two losses a year ago,
and our only loss this year is to a team
that's in the top five. Like, come on, man, that's like,
let's be real here.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
I get it. I get it.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
I mean I'll say this though, because you are a
Penn State guy and all that, so I can kind
of take a different approach to it.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
I was very frustrated with your offense during that game.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I was too, I mean I was.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
They started to find their rhythm and flow when they
started to go in two minute Drew Aller to throw
the football round, start to push the ball more down
the field, and I think you see spurts of that
you saw versus Maryland, but you don't see it quite enough.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
And I think they have the talent to do it.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
I just think they're resistant to do it from a
play calling perspective because of who the OC is and
his identity. And I think the thing that concerns me
about Penn State in the position that they're in in
this case is last year, Penn States the number one
rush defense in the Big Ten. Right now, Okay, last year,
I believe going into the game, same thing. They didn't
give up more than one hundred and nineteen yards up
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until that point.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
They give up four hundred and eighteen to Michigan.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
They went from one to like sixth in the Big Ten.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Yeah, and the first half. I don't know what happened,
what the breakdown was in the second half of that game,
because they had a really they had a strong showing
in the first half.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
And they've had a strong showing so far this year.
Is this year as well.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
I mean, the one team that ran on a decent
them out was West Virginia to begin the season, and
then since then they really haven't been able to play
anyone who could run the football effectively versus them. However,
I will say this, I don't know how many teams
that they've played so far that you're looking at as
one of the top rushing teams. For example, Ohio State
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is seventh in the Big Ten and rushing, so that's
arguab But I think you'd say has been their biggest
test so far running the football. Everyone else they've played
has been somewhere behind. The Maryland actually rushed for negative
yards when you include kind of the sacks and everything
else and the way that game went. But my point
is this is that's what concerns me moving forward. I
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think for Penn State is I remember watching last year.
I thought they were better in the interior and particularly
because you had Mustafer there. And it's gonna be a
big time challenge I think versus Michigan, and especially the
interior of the defense versus the interior of the Michigan
offensive line. Like, that's where my eyes are gonna go.
If you get like I think Penn State's built to
bet Ohio State. You've got the edge rushers, you've got
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the ability to cover down on the outside, to cover
the talent that they have. Michigan's a change up to
a lot of teams because they'll sit there and say
we're not gonna get a shootout with you the way
you want to. We're just gonna methodically pound the ball
down your throat. We're gonna put multiple tight ends on
the field and run the ball, and run the ball
and run.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
The ball until you can't take it anymore. It's been effective.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
I think that plays. I think that plays into this
year's team more so than last year's team. I think
that plays into our favor to play against the road.
I think the difference I honestly believe the difference in
that Ohio State game was the same difference that has
been in pretty much every game for Ohio State, which
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is Marvin Harrison junior. He's been the difference and I
don't see one of those on Michigan's team. So if
we stop, they've got to. That's the different they're in
the backfield. Yeah, I think we'll be able to handle that.
They don't have somebody that opens it up to me
down Still, Harrison Junior does well.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
I guess I'll say this, The Michigan have those guys
last year on the.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Outside, Yeah, but we didn't have the developed depth of
interior d lineman that we do this year. It's it's different,
like we're they wore us down last year. They're not
going to wear this team down. This outfit is not
going to get worn down by the run. It's too
good of a rotation that they have, and they're they're
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just as good. The second second guys coming in are
just as good as the first ones up front, So
I don't see that being being an issue. They're gonna
have to prove that. That's how I look at it.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
It's gonna be fun as hell to watch.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
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Speaker 3 (33:34):
It's a good idea.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
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Speaker 2 (34:03):
Five lines, not those kind of lines. Five picks, five spreads.
Time for picks against the spread.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
All right, guys, let's kick off Week ten. We got starting.
Speaker 11 (34:15):
Off forty nine Ers and Jaguar.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
We're not both coming off of bye week. Niners are
three point favorites out at Jacksonville. I got the Jags.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
That line looks so funky, though, I'm gonna take the
forty nine ers and lay the points.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
It doesn't make sense, I know, shouldn't be that big
of a spread. Jacks have been good.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
So the Jags are given three points in this game.
They can lose by three points.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, they can lose by three, but no more than three.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Yeah, I'm gonna take the Niners to cover.
Speaker 11 (34:51):
Next one up, Browns and Ravens.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Ravens coming off of four game winning streak. Ravens are
six and a half point favorites at Homer's.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
The Browns land the points. Take the Browns in this one.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
God, why a Yeah, I'll go bal To.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
I've got the Ravens. I've got the Ravens. Just make
sure you got I got you.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah, I'll go Brady.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
Who do you have the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, I got Baltimore as.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Well too, Which means you guys think that the Ravens
are going to cover?
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Yeah more than.
Speaker 11 (35:25):
Saints said Vikings.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
Saints standing the way of the Vikings in their fifth
straight win. Saints are three point favorites on the road
at Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Take a Minnesota. Hottest team in the league.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
Man, I lost cam Akers though for the season. I'm
with Jonas. I'll go ahead and I'll take the points
in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
No, I'm gonna take the Saints.
Speaker 11 (35:47):
Damn Giant, said Cowboys.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
Big line here, Cowboys seven Cowboys favorites at home, can
land the points with.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
The Cowboys seventeen points?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yeah No, I'm gonna take the Giants all one.
Speaker 11 (36:00):
Lions said Chargers.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Lions three point favorites on the road.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
Chargers Go Bolts, Chargers, Chargers taking them.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Take the Lion,
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