November 17, 2023 • 44 mins
It’s a Football Friday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, and the Bengals might be in hot water after Joe Burrow’s wrist injury. RGIII throws his hat in the ring to play for the Browns and the guys react to Charissa Thompson’s admission about making up reports during her time as a sideline reporter.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
of Joe with Lamar Errings rating win and Jonas Knox
on Box four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell are we on a Friday?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Well, yeah good, I'd feel better if my my Super
Bowl pick was was still alive.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Oh yeah, that one went to the to the locker
room last night, my guy.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah that did. That's gonna go ahead and wrap that up.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Just wrap that one.
Speaker 6 (00:31):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (00:31):
The Baltimore Ravens get it done, thirty four to twenty
the final, as Eddie Garcia laid out in this top
of the hour update. But the story is a story
in the game, and it involves injuries. First, what we
do know, According to John Harbaugh, Mark Andrews, the one
of the top tight ends in the league, Lamar Jackson's
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favorite target for years now in Baltimore, suffered a serious
ankle injury. It looks like he's going to be done
for the year. So that's a bad blow for the
Baltimore Ravens. And then you transition over to the Joe
Burrow injury and just sort of the speculation that maybe
Joe Burrow went into that game, although he wasn't on
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the injury report. But maybe he went into that game
was some sort of an issue with his right wrist,
because he was seen on a video of them getting
off the plane wearing some sort of a brace or
a sleeve on his right hand. So again, nowhere to
be found on the injury report. You know you've got
Zach Taylor afterwards just saying quickly, first, I had ever
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seen of it. I don't know anything about it. And
you've got a bunch of people speculating as to whether
or not the league's going to have a conversation with
Cincinnati about what they knew about this injury prior to
the game.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
I think that, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Oh, the part as a player is, you know some guys,
you know you'll hide injuries your whole entire time as
a player from your own team, and you do it
because you're never in a situation where you feel security
or comfortable with your contract and your situation there. That's
(02:09):
just the reality of the NFL. Most contracts are like that.
Joe Burrow's not in that situation. He's I think he's
different in the sense of he came into this season
playing banged up.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
He wants to play for his team.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
He knows how important it is for him to play
on this team in order for the a chance to win.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
I think that's pretty clear. It's pretty evident in this case.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
The tough thing is now the Bengals organization is going
to get in trouble. I mean, there was video evidence
clearly he was wearing some sort of brace on his
right wrist. It was hard to tell if it was
his thumb or what they were trying to protect or
immobilize and give time for rest, but clearly.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
When he got in the game.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I know, one time to point it out in the
broadcast that way he fell on it kind of but
it looked like something that was bothering him coming into it,
and obviously it's something that's gonna take some time to
potentially even I hate to speculate and say surgery, but
the way he was gripping that football and trying to
warm up and he couldn't really even get through his throw,
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it makes you think that there's something for sure more
there that could keep them out the.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Rest of the season. Yeah, I saw what you guys saw.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I mean, I would love to try to justify it
differently and say, may have been the way he fell
down on it, maybe they were doing some you know,
just proactive measures, like there are guys that do proactive rehab,
you know, j you know, we know about the guys
that they're prehabers, And I mean prehabers are really like
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kind of like OCD brain type people. You know, they
use a different part of their brain and they like, hey, buddy,
have you ever tried this cream? Hey, have you ever
tried this pill? Listen, this supplement here, it'll help you.
Hey man, look here you got to ice it this time.
You got to go jump in the ice bat. Like
you have guys that do rollers, like beyond belief how
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often they roll themselves out, Like there are some people
that do certain things that wear compression pants and socks
on the flights to their gats. I mean, it is
the wildest thing to see somebody who was a prehaber.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I mean, so in my mind, do you feel like
you should be doing that? Sometimes?
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Though?
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Did you ever watch them and go, man, I should
be doing.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
That, you know?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I mean them dudes had long careers, some of them,
some of them had some pretty long careers and they
right now probably so they probably do. They probably and
they're probably still prehabing, you know, they're probably still in
that regiment of how they take care of their bodies.
So I don't know Joe Burrow, So I don't know
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what the scenario was, but it was like the first
thing I started thinking was, Okay, you can show that
he had like something on his wrist, but he.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Might have been he might be a prehaber.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
He might have had like a red laser on him,
you know, like a little red lad that he might
have had a portable TINGE unit on or it's something
like that where he just want I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
I'm just thinking.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I was trying because to me, I don't understand your
best player. If he's if he's injured to the point
of where he's coming into the game and he had
to leave out injured, why would you not have It
just doesn't add up to not have him on all
injury report.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I would put it this way as the player, I
wouldn't want as a quarterback people to know about any
injuries that I'm dealing with because I don't live's a
vulnerable like I'm a sitting duck back there. I don't
want you to think I'm less mobile. I don't want
you to think that, you know, I've got any sort
of issue that would impact ball security. I want to
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hide everything I can from anyone out there because as
a quarterback, you really are the most vulnerable out there.
You're a sitting duck. You're waiting to get hit. So
for that reason, it's why I wouldn't want to share
anything with anyone. On top of it, I wouldn't even
want my team to know about it for future negotiations
depending on my contract situation. So there's a I could
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think of a lot of reasons why the player wouldn't
want it. The team, though, they're the ones that's going
to face the penalty or fine depending on whatever comes
from that, and even furthermore we'll see where burrows at.
But it's I do love the fact you just listed
off almost every single thing that.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I'm trying to think.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
What, Oh pre habers, man, he's not live show. They've
got to die like you too, everything to the tea.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
I mean, that's no way to live though, all right,
don't you want to just get out there and you
know you've taken so much time worrying about Like I
feel like there's a lot of people that do make
up the prehab world now, even off the football field.
You know, they feel like there was a lot of
pre habers post COVID out there, a lot of people
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that kind of went in that direction, and I just
feel like that's no way to live.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
And it still loves pre habers COVID right.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Now, definitely night. Yeah, they're still masking, asking up.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Masking up hard.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Like why, go I had a mask on. It was
like a five hour flight. I had a mask on
really just just just because I was I was going
to sleep and I just put a mask on.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
I just I don't know why.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
It was something their seats and like every yeah, I know,
I know I do that too.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
So here's here's.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Here's the Here's the part that I do find funny
about this, because you know, the usual suspects in the
media are going to get a hold of.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
This today and go, oh by god, this is a disgrace.
They're not being clear and transparent this, you know, with
the NFL's relationship with gambling companies. Now, that's why the
injury report existed in the first place. And blah blah,
blah blah blah. Do you really think that degenerate gamblers
around the country are going to just now not gamble
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on the NFL and you're gonna lose their money because
Joe Burrow may or may not have had a risk injury.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Before the game.
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Do you really think they're gonna say, no, we can't
trust this league, we're out. When the NBA had their
Tim donnahey crap that the NBA kind of kept quiet
because they had a TV deal they were ready to
sign and they didn't want this stuff coming out. Do
you think gamblers were like, I'm never betting on the
NBA again. My ass They're gonna keep gambling because it's
what they do. They're degenerate gamblers. So the idea that
(08:31):
this is I would venture to guess, and you kind
of alluded to this, and you guys have mentioned this before.
How many games in your career did you go in
with no injury whatsoever?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
All Like there's not one.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
Game and you're not on the injury report every week,
Like it's like nobody's on the injury report every single week.
If you so the idea that Cincinnati did something wrong,
like Jacksonville's getting the heat because Trevor Lawrence is going
a knee injury, that they're both him and Doug Peterson
are saying, yeah, I'm dealing with a knee injury now,
but they haven't really been as clear or transparent about
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it on the injury report. It's like these one off scenarios.
People pretend like this is a plague in the league.
If you want to do a deep dive on it,
all guys are injured all the time and they're not
an injury report.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Everyone's banged up this time of year, like everyone's dealing
with something this time of year.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
It's just it's a violent sport. How it works.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I mean, it's probably no different than a UFC match
in the sense of if you're going into that fight
and you had an injury while sparring or injury in camp,
you don't want the opponent to know about it. Like
it's a big purse. You probably need the money. You're
not gonna sit there and be like, well, I'm not
gonna do this, but you're surely not going to make
it publicized. And you know, fights get bet on all
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the time, and I think in some instances maybe there's
a little you know, it's a feel suspect, But I
mean last night was an example to it, because I
think when you make that argument, it also takes away
from looking at what Baltimore did. And Baltimore was pretty
Dawn Dormint, you know, turned dominant last night, and I
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kind of look at it and say, that's really been
the story of the Bengals season so far this year. Yeah,
we have not seen them be able to put together
the type of game outside of that little four game
stretch they had, we haven't really been able to see
them put together the type of game.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
You know that that.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Reminds you of like, oh, yeah, this team's going to
go on a run. They're gonna make it to a
super Bowl and potentially win a super Bowl. It just
has not been their year.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Either Burrow's been banged up and the offense got off
to a slow start where the defense was trying to
help them carry them.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
They had a nice string of like high offensive production.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
You now see what this team looks like without t
Higgins and it's a different element, you know, when he's
not able to be out there as part of one
of those pass catches next to Chase and Boyd. They
showed a lot of the broadcast last night. Jamar Chase
has been playing press. Manda Man coverage as.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Much as anyone.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
And it's not that he can't get open versus it,
but I think any you know, any wide receiver will
tell you it's a lot harder. And you got someone
up in your grill every single time and you're trying
to run a route, your timing is off, it's gonna
change the route you're supposed to run sometimes, and it's
gonna be harder to get you an accurate football because
the way your route's impact is gonna impact Joe Burrow
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or Jake Browning in this case last night, and the
way he's trying to throw you at the football, because
now that spot's gonna be different. We used to say,
like if we're throwing a nine yard stop, which is
at throwing at nine yards, you know that's what the
receiver's gonna stop. He's gonna come back down to his
you know, downfield, you know shoulder, You're gonna put the
ball right there. His ball should be out before he
even gets to it into nine yards if it's first
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press man and Manny's might be like two yards shorter
depending on what the rules are with that wide receivers
coach and that offense.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
So it's just so much stuff changes, and I just
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I mean, last night was an example of I thought
a dominant performance by Baltimore. Baltimore looks to be the
class of that confer It sees me division and maybe
even the Conference, depending on how Baltimore continues to.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Play from here.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
I mean, they can run the ball and there defense
is good. I mean, even gdbian clown, he's having a
good year.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Like he's been pretty consistent as a player. I just
think everyone always attributed like his success to sacks and
as an edge rusher. I get it, that's how a
lot of the guys are made and remembered. But he's
been a solid all around player as far as playing
against the run, doing his job, like doing little things,
gets batted down passes too. Like he's done all that
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for a long time. He's been a very very good player.
It's just again, it's not like that. Hey, he's not
leading the league in sacks this year, and I think
that's unfortunately what people expect when he was drafting to
the running game.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
The Keaton Mitchell addition, I mean, how good is he
He's just so.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Quick and so fascinating space like it's a change of pay.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
It's like that you know, one to two punch or
having that that fastball with some sort of change up
with the way their backs run. So I like, I
know they want to throw the football with Todd Munkin
and the receivers they've got and some of that downfield ability,
but they still can run against pretty much anyone to feel.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
And by the way, the whole call on Odell Beckham
on the Zay Flowers touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
That I don't get it, Like what is the league
doing with this? I don't get it? Like we need
to move to a point. I know you and I
and LeVar have talked about it, like having it throughout
the game where you can challenge and make it reviewable.
That's one of those that you go, yeah, you'd probably
have that one back.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
Is that not a textbook picture perfect block by a
wide receiver?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Like that's as good as it gets.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Yeah, and say fly like you saw you got a
glimpse of Zay Flowers like what he can do and
why they drafted him. And then it gets called back
and you could just see John Harbaugh's lips and he's like,
that's such fing bs because he just knew that was crap,
like that was that was an awful call. And also
say this just about the Bengals, there's a reason why
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the percentages are what they are in NFL history when
you start off zero and two or whatever it is
and you don't make the playoffs because your margin for
air is so small after that. So a game like this,
you could lose this game and it's like, yeah, it's
a division game, that's rough, but a short week, it's understandable.
But the game last week against the Texans was the
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one they're going to look back on. That was the
fork in the road for where they were going to
go in the season. And now you're looking up at
the lights going, yeah, it's over. They're they're they're just
not making the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Like it's not.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Happening closing time.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yep, it's unort That's what.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
It feels like.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, look, that's that was my that's my Super Bowl
pick man, And I feel like you're you're bearing it
a little bit early.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
All right, crazy things gonna happen, But I want.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
To see what the odds are on them to make
the play. If you had to guess right now, what
the odds are and the Bengals to make the playoffs.
Curty DraftKings.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Oh, at this this point in the season, plus four hundred.
We got here because think.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
About Houston's going to have the tiebreak go from You're
now talking about wildcard spots. Although Houston might end up
winning the AFC South Division, but you start looking at
some of the teams that they've got to compete with
for that. I mean, they've got three teams in the
AFC North right now that are slated to be in
the AFC you know division or excuse my conference for playoffs.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Plus one sixty five way off.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Yeah, I'm not going to handicap her with that.
Speaker 7 (15:05):
But a minus two h five for the know, I
would actually say there's some better value on the know
than there is. You only betten about two to one
on that. So I'm going to go with I'm going
to say no on the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
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Speaker 7 (16:32):
We should point this out a quick little programming note here,
because people think they've got everybody on this show figured out.
And if you were somebody listening to this show for
the past couple of years and you just assumed, hey,
we got to read on lead to laugh, we know
exactly what he is and who he is. There's been
a development in the saga of Lead to lab Lee
(16:53):
is now turned into a degenerate horse gambler on in
the studio. Right now we have Tea VG the horse
racing channel, and Lee is about to uh. He has
got some interest in what's what's going to be? I
believe this is the fifth race in Bahrain.
Speaker 9 (17:13):
Two minutes to post betting on still taking a look.
I'm kind of jumping around here. I was looking at
a race in France first, but now that I've got a.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Like, uh, you know, it feels like you got this
figured out, Lee, And that's just my just for my
two cents listening to you for the past.
Speaker 10 (17:33):
Oh yeah, I got I got the last place horse yesterday.
Speaker 9 (17:36):
So though I think I uh, I think there's a
prop on that right, you can get you can bet
on the last place horse.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
The question is did you bet on the last horse?
I did?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I did bet on the last horse.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
So so wait, did so you want? You got something?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I hope?
Speaker 9 (17:47):
So yeah, I got a learning lesson. I learned something
that's you know, that's the moral.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
How do you place a bet for a horse to
go last and then not know if you want anything?
Speaker 9 (17:58):
I was kidding. I didn't place it I placed it
to win place or show. But yeah, you finished last place.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
So yeah, a terrible gambler.
Speaker 10 (18:07):
Yeah, I am a terrible gambler. That's why I don't gamble.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Lee, I would say, if I'm looking at this right now,
just looking at the board, all right. So we had
a we had a change in the odds on the
I mean the seven horses the favorite. The one horse
is the co favorite. I mean I would take the
one horse. You're gonna get any a little bit more
back for your bang or bang for your buck there
with the with the one horse.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yea, so we will.
Speaker 10 (18:33):
Win place show.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And by the way, I got five. And by the way,
is his name now Live bet Lesus?
Speaker 7 (18:42):
Since Live bet Jesus no shows our program because you
guys make fun of him every time he appears.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
It's because he lost, all right, that's why.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
And again I don't know why we have to.
Speaker 10 (18:52):
By the way, son of Man two dollars on Son
of Man from Ireland.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
That's the one horse and it's from Ireland.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Wow. Wow, he's not gonna get distracted by a beer
or something.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Man.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Nobody brings you live horse race from Bahrain like this
show does.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That's right, make it rain and Bahrain.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Man.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
First of all, the fact that you could actually do
this just shows you the options for entertainment in this
country that we have at our hands and our fingertips
right now, Like, how could anybody ever be bored?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Like make it rain and Bahrain.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Make it rain and brain. You're an idiot.
Speaker 10 (19:29):
Almost it was Zoom Zoom had a great Britain.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
All right, So we'll keep you posting on whether or
not lead the lap when some horse race and bahrain
right now. Nothing like betting on the ponies in the
Middle East. That's always fun, all right. So it is
a two pros and a cup of joe here on
Fox Sports Radio. You know, since the Deshaun Watson injury
took place, people have decided to go ahead and revisit
(19:53):
just how the old trade went down between the Texans
and the Cleveland Browns. And as it stands right now
and listen, you know, still to be determined, but as
it stands right now, would you say that the Texans
fleeced the Cleveland Browns? Would that be the proper term
to use here? Like would you guys say kind of
own them?
Speaker 5 (20:11):
I mean, I'm not saying that bamboozled like.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Bamboos old WHOA very good WHOA.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Look, you can't control injuries, right wit so, so we'll
see how things go. I mean, this is essentially it
was an interesting article that was written yesterday and this
was essentially what they were kind of laying out. So
in exchange for Deshaun Watson, also a twenty twenty four
fifth round pick, which was part of that deal gets
(20:38):
lost in the shuffle, but it was part of that deal.
So we'll see it next year's draft.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Who that is.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
The Houston Texans received first round picks in twenty twenty
two last year, twenty twenty three this year's draft, and
twenty twenty four, along with a twenty twenty three third
round pick and a twenty twenty four to fourth round pick. Okay,
so in exchange for Watson the two hun and thirty
million and a fifth round pick, this is.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
What the Texans have gotten so far.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Last year, they took offensive guard Kenyan Green, all right,
he's been a good player for them in the first round.
This year's first round pick went to edge rusher Will
Anderson out of Alabama, whose solid players so far, and
then this year's third round pick has been tanked Dell,
who's arguably one of the best targets for CJ. Stroud
(21:23):
so far in his phenomenal rookie year. So next year
they've got a first round pick as well as a
excuse me, fourth round pick. I believe unless I type that,
it's either fourth or fifth. Now I'm look in my notes,
I'm not sure which, but I think the general point
is if you're looking at what the Houston Texans got
from this, this is going to feel a little bit
(21:44):
like the trade for was at RG three and the
bounty that the Rams got versus what Washington got in
that case of picks.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
And remember how used to get.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Like a bunch of you know, players that they took
from that you know, that trade up from the draft
or on the Rams. Now, I think in the end
neither team ultimately, you know, really won. But I think
most teams feel like when they get more picks, more players,
they have a better shot at being more successful that strategy.
But it is kind of interesting when you look at
where the Texans are now arguably you know, second in
(22:17):
the AFC South, but a chance to maybe go win
it this year, currently in the in the playoffs, if
it started today and then where they could could potentially
go with next year's first round pick and another pick
later on. They've done They've done well drafting so far,
and they put themselves in a spot to be a
competitive for years.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I look at it and I go, I think, I
think the Houston Texans got it.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Bad. I mean, I think you got to go with
the Houston Texans. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Yeah, because in the end, you got rid of a
major contract that Deshaun Watson was carrying, and you were
able to move on for for good or for bet.
You were able to move on from a large contract
with a guy that didn't want to be there, and
they found a trade recipient. That's that's That's what I
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would say, is because they were able to find a
partner and unload Deshaun Watson and get from underneath that
that contract if I understand it right, because I don't
understand contracts one hundred percent all the way, but I
would say in my asstination, that would be why they
came out on top.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
They didn't get from out underneath the contract.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
When Watson got there, they were structured and gave him
that contract.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
So I mean, technically they got out of the.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Right, but it was still a big fight he had
just you're right, the old one, right, not the new one.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Not the new one.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
He still had a very very large contract that he
had just signed for in Houston.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Did another term short term you almost would say like,
not only did they get out from underneath it with
a player that he but which by the way, I mean,
regardless of what plays off the field, he said before
he didn't want to play there anyway. He didn't want
to play for a call MC near team, so it
didn't look like that was gonna work out anyway. So
not only did they get out from underneath the contract,
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but they didn't have to pay him. This contract one
that really the Browns can't get out from until twenty
twenty seven, and the cap hits are significant in the
coming years.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
So from the at least I guess the cap perspective.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
You'd say Houston's in a better spot given that they've
got their franchise quarterback of the future in CJ. Stroud,
even though that wasn't part of the deal, but it
still opened it up to then taking a quarterback because
they needed one, as opposed to, you know, sticking to
a bigger contract. And Watson, and then you've got three
picks so far that are all starters, all impactful players
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so far.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
So it will be interesting to see how this works
out moving forward.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
But I mean, Jonahs, I know we've talked about this
in the past, like this was always the comparison for
the Saint Louis Rams and Washington based on that trade
and comparing like all those players that you know, Saint
Louis was able to get from trading out of that
spot with Washington when they traded up to take RG three.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
Now, Oh, it's funny you bring up RG three. Did
you know that you know, RG three's kind of floating
around still. I don't know if you guys were aware
of that, but that the book deal the apparently that
has not gone through. We were still working and efforting
on finishing that book. But you know RG three did
did kind of throw his name in the hat, did
kind of let everybody know, like if the Cleveland Browns
(25:27):
need a quarterback, if they need somebody to kind of
help out the situation there in Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Pick me. Let's listen to the campaign starring RG three.
Speaker 11 (25:38):
The Browns should sign me as their starting quarterback. And
here's why one, At thirty three years old, I understand
the game better than I ever have in my entire career.
I know how to slide and I know when to slide,
and that was a huge issue in my eight years
in the NFL. But I've learned, I've learned from my mistakes,
and I'm ready to showcase that I can get it done.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 11 (25:59):
Deshaun Watson went fourteen for fourteen in the second half
against the Baltimore Ravens, and he used his legs to
go out and scramble and extend plays. Of those fourteen passes,
there weren't really any of them that you would say
were two hundred and thirty million.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Dollar worthy passes.
Speaker 11 (26:14):
All they needed him to do was manage the game
because of them dogs they got over there on defense,
starting with Miles Garrett.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Well, guess what I ain't do that I.
Speaker 11 (26:23):
Can go out there and manage a game for the
Cleveland Browns and help them go on the Super Bowl
run that they want to go on.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
But here's the second thing.
Speaker 11 (26:30):
I still run a four to three forty people and
I can throw the football eighty yards. I train every
week like an NFL football player, so I could be
ready for moments just like this, so they need to
hit my line. And the third thing is for me.
If Dorian Thompson Robinson is going to be their guy
and they don't bring me in to be the starter,
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then they should bring me in to be the backup.
So I can help him in the same ways that
I helped Lamar Jackson. I learned six offenses in eight
years in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Nobody wants to talk about it, but.
Speaker 11 (27:01):
Learning a new offense has never been a problem for me,
and I can help dtr with his decision making, when
to make certain plays and truly to understand what he
has to do as a quarterback with a defense like
that on the other side of the football.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Man, what a tool. Good god, wow.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Let me say this. I mean, ye, bring him, sign
him up.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I mean, they're obviously looking for veteran guys. He spent
some time in Cleveland, so he knows the landscape.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
I just I find it interesting that.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I mean, obviously RG three has had a lot to
say sometimes about stuff, so I'm not gonna be person
who points out the fact that he completely is belittle
the best half of football. That's Sean Watson had during
his time in Cleveland so.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Far, everybody on the roster at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Which is interesting, Like I want you to sign me,
but I'm gonna be little not only the starter in
his best half of football, playing gutsy and bringing you
back to a win, but also why PJ Walker? Apparently
it's irrelevant because he knows more football than PJ. Which, look,
he's he played longer than PJ so far, and maybe
he does maybe he can help him that case, or
(28:15):
that he needs to be a you know, in there
for dtr instead Like I just not necessarily the way you.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
To enter into a roster, but look, I'd love to
see it.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I've always I've always said this, like if if guys
are sitting there, you know, wanting to get back in
and play, wanting for the opportunity, whoever it may be, Yeah,
throw him in there.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Let's see what it looks like. Like I like, it's
all fun to talk about. Honestly, didn't know if this
was real or not when it first came out, Like
I don't know if it was like.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Not not even a deep fake.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I thought like it might have been a skit or
something or maybe something they're doing for like a podcast
story show. That's what I thought initially, but it seems
like he really wants it, so sign him up. Let's
another thing is like it's all almost like he spits
in the face of like Andrew Barry too for whatnot
and give you him a call or not, like like
he's got your number, like they know who you are,
(29:07):
Like if they want you.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
They'll call LeVar.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I mean, this is your guy, So what's going on?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
By the way, I hope he doesn't get like sensitive
about people commenting on It's.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
Like you put it out there.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Once you put something out there like this, it's open
for anyone and everyone to say whatever they feel and
like people And if he's gonna be upset about like
people being critical about it's like, well, that's kind of
on you, man, Like no one asked you to do that,
like your appetite, Like like you could just call the team,
you could call Stefanso, call Andrew Barry. I'm sure you
could get their numbers and make that happen. If you're like, hey, man,
(29:43):
let's just bring me in for work. I don't tell anyone,
you know, and let's see what I can do.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
But that's not the point.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
The point is is to put it out there so
that everyone can hear it. Like he made it very clear,
like why do why does no one talk about what
RG redid for for Lamar Jackson, like because nobody cares.
I mean that that would be the reason why nobody
is talking about what you did for Lamar Jackson and
(30:11):
other things that you've done at this point, because nobody cares.
I mean, once you're done, you're done. And that's just
generally how it happens for everybody that place. But you
know that's I mean, I'm with you, cute, give him
a chat, see what he can do. I mean, I
would say that's this isn't this isn't as laughable if
if it was Kaepernick doing it at this point. I mean,
(30:34):
there is some legitimacy here to it.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
What's what's laugh laughable is the lack of self awareness
that he doesn't like in the whole process. Because it's edited,
it's it's on RG three and the ones. That's that's
the credit here, it's edited, it's put together. He's being serious,
and at no point during the process does he realize, Okay,
I'm basically driving a bus over Deshaun Watson. I'm driving
(30:59):
a US over p J. Walker and Dorian Thompson Robinson
please sign me, like they're just at no point that
that entered into his mind. Like that blows my mind
that that's that this is the thought process for him.
But hey, that's our unique.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Way of doing it.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Man, It's a different route to get there.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I mean he look, he spent a year in Cleveland,
spent time in Baltimore. He knows the AFC North Division,
which I think is important because you got to know
the Brandon style of football and the weather and throwing
those conditions. So, like I said, I mean, it's been
on a few years. What was the last season, twenty twenty?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Oh, no, sign up, let's go. All right, let's make go,
Let's make it happen.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
All right.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
That'll be a chapter I'm teen in his book.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Will be strategy. Yeah it is. Is this going to
get in the way of the book?
Speaker 5 (31:48):
You think?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I don't know? Like now it's going to relate another chapter.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
I think it's another chapter.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, it's still still being written. It's going to delay
it even longer.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
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a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
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Speaker 2 (32:07):
You Know Else is a part of Amazon. Very nice, CHRISA.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
Thompson, She's a part of She's the host of the
coverage on Thursday nights for Amazon Prime. And people are
not happy with her. They're not happy with something that
she said. This was on Pardon My Take. She talked
about her time as a sideline reporter in the NFL.
So let's take it away.
Speaker 12 (32:30):
And I've said this before, so I haven't been fired
for saying it, but I'll say it again. I would
make up the report sometimes because a the coach wouldn't
come out at halftime or it was too late, and
I was like, I didn't want to screw up the report.
So I was like, I'm just going to make this
up because first of all, no coach is going to
get mad if I say, hey, we need to stop
hurting ourselves. We needed to be better on third down,
we need to stop.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
Turning the ball over the quarterback.
Speaker 12 (32:52):
We need yeah, exactly, and do a better job of
getting off the field. Like they're not going to correct
me on that. I'm like, it's fine, I'll just make
up the report now.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
But what if that's not what's going on?
Speaker 7 (33:02):
Well, but that's the proud now. People are very very upset.
They feel like they've been bamboozled. You had sideline reporters
who went to social media and talked about how this
damages their reputation and how hard they work on their craft,
and all of that is fair. I mean, I know this,
(33:23):
I'm probably still going to keep watching the NFL. I'll
be honest with you. I don't know that this is
going to deter me from watching the NFL. So it
feels like the a bit of an overreaction from people
taking shots to Chrissa Thompson over this.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Let me say this because I've been around Carissa, I've
worked around Chrissa, I would say this, she is extremely
talented and greater at her job, like as a host
in a production meeting, you know, and a lot of
people don't really know what that means. A production meetings
where youre gonna find out what we're going to talk
about in a show. And I've found Chrissa to be
(33:58):
probably the best I've ever sat in a room and
listened to the producers the talent, everyone talk about what
they're trying to talk about, and she does.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
An incredible job.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
And I think she came up through the producing side,
so she kind of gets it from that perspective, But
she does a credible in job of knowing what needs
to be said and how the talent wants to get there,
how to get them there, and what the producers are
looking for and what viewers are looking for. Like she's
been incredibly successful in her job and career for a reason,
and so from a professional standpoint, like she to me
(34:33):
is one of the best of what she does. Now
she's not really doing sideline reporting, which is a bit
odd that everyone's, you know, all of a sudden she's
trying a big issue with this and not taking away
from the fact that you obviously shouldn't do that. But
this also isn't something that if you listen to the podcast,
because I'm sure many people who chimed in on social
media only heard the clip and she they probably don't
(34:55):
listen to Chrissa and Aaron's podcast all the time, and
not that I do either, but in this particular case,
I went back and listened to more of it than
just the part of my take clip to be able
to hear other instances, and I just say this, it's
not like she did that all the time like everyone.
It went from it being hey, I've done this before
to oh, every report was fabricated, Like why is our
(35:17):
society like that? We're like one little thing here there
and people who are coming out of the woodwork.
Speaker 6 (35:23):
It's like, okay, let me ask you this.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Did you ever at some point maybe fib or make
something up or a lie to someone because you weren't
quite where you wanted to be, or weren't quite doing
what you're supposed to be doing, or the dog gets
your homework. Like, I feel like we're so easy to
look at someone and be like, oh, well they're wrong,
that's wrong, they should be fired or whatever they want
to say with that. And yet we never look in
the mirror. So I sit there and look at it
(35:48):
just say should she have done that?
Speaker 5 (35:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Is it tough when you're on live television and your
producers ask you for a report and you're supposed to
be telling everyone what the head coach said. Yeah, I
mean in part that's on a little bit of the producer,
because if she's hitting a back saying hey, the coach
isn't coming out, he needs to say, well that, hey,
we're canning this now. The problem is the formatics of
any live game. They'll tell you that like that's what
they want. They want to hear what the one coach
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said going into the locker room, one coach said going.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Out of it, and how it usually works.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
The winning coach goes going into the locker room, the
losing coach gets it coming out of the locker room.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Usually how it works.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
And so if you can't get one of those two guys,
it's going to reflect poorly on her, meaning she can't
do her job. And she was saying stuff that wasn't overlypeutited,
like she kind of admitted to that how she'd phrase it,
but she didn't do it all the time.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
And so I'm not trying to make.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Light of it because in reality, if she was doing that,
she probably should have told anyone she was doing that,
but she should have never done it in the first place.
But it's also not something where people even calling for
a job or just standing on the soapbox taking a
grand stand about it. I mean, it's just it's ridiculous
the way our society reacts to stuff like this, like,
calm down, she's not perfect, You're not perfect.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
Relax, like, we're still going to watch the NFL.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
And I think one of the starting to rebler but
one of the examples that she gave is she asked
a coach, you know, what sort of adjustment are you
going to make for the second half? Whatever it was,
and and I think the coach responded with that perfume
smells really nice.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
It's like, so what is she supposed to do?
Speaker 7 (37:23):
You know, a couple of minutes into the second half,
let's go down of Carissa for an update from the sideline. Well,
he liked my Issimiaki perfume, and you know, that's what
we got here for the second half?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Back to you guys. Know, so she was like, all right,
I can't go on the airth so what do you
want me to do?
Speaker 7 (37:42):
I mean, but she could have just aired the coach out,
you know, and made those But like, I just feel
like people ran with this because they just want something
to be outraged about.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
They can't help it.
Speaker 6 (37:53):
Every day the people like easy targets.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
And obviously Chris is incredibly success full and she's not
going to fire back at someone, right And so people
like fights that where they can poke fun or they
can say stuff because they know that she's probably above
all of it.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
She's not going to give it the time of day.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
She's already at the top, you know, of her career
what she's doing. And so you know, it's a bunch
of people. There's probably some who are envious, probably some
arer jelious. There's probably some of who saying, well, you know,
if I did that in my career, I would never
you know, be able to keep for starters one, like,
she's not doing that job anymore. So like what are
we talking about, Like we're acting like she's she's down there.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
Like yeah, not her, and yeah she's not her, right, yeah,
you're not her.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Like some people can do what they do because of
what you said earlier.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
They're just great at what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
When you've done it, when you've had a whole lot
of reps and you've got a lot of experience, you
learn how to fudget. Sometimes that's just what it is.
It's part of it. People have had to adapt into
adjust an act live. In more than one instance, such
is the one she's using. While it isn't it is
not something that you should make a habit of doing.
(39:07):
She's basically saying she's for what is worth this. How
I read it, you're basically saying, I'm professional enough to
still give a generalized vanilla approach to what needs to
be done when I didn't get the cooperation I needed.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
To do my job done. She ain't gotta apologize for that.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
And you don't need to sit there and think that
you're her and you're not getting no opportunities and you
wouldn't be.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Able to get away with it.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
You're right, you're right, so live with it. But that
doesn't mean she's not great at what she does. She's
climbed to the top because she is great at what
she does.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
She was that big ten network. She's done.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
She's been around a really long time. I love it
when people pay their dues. When you've been in this
business a long time and you can see, oh wait,
you go back six, seven, eight, nine, ten years and
they were doing smaller jobs, local jobs, you know, different
things like that that you didn't know anything about. But
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you think this is an overnight success story for a
lot of these people that put in the time and the.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Effort, Like I don't I don't have a problem with
her coming out and saying it.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Let's just take this on a grander scheme too, Like
in the world that we live in now, okay, knowing
what we know about our our you know, sports obviously
and news information and how we get it, like this
is the hill you're gonna die on, Like this was
the final straw of misinformation or news or something that
bothered you again, really like this is that time where
you really want to throw a fit about someone who's like, yeah,
(40:39):
I made up and said something kind of generic and honestly,
like it almost sounds like at times she was protecting
the people, either because of what they said or they weren't,
you know, coming out, and maybe she's got a person
relationship and she's like, yeah, they're not going to say anything.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
Anyway, but like this is the hill. This is the
hill you're willing to die on.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
With everything else that's out there in the way media
is handled, are we see her.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
It's also so like I saw some you know, I'm
not gonna you know, name names, but sideline reporters who
are like, you know, some of the comments because people
one of the go to is after this story came out,
was a big deal. Uh, nobody cares about the sideline
reporters anyways. Like me personally, I think Katie Hartung does
a great job on Thursday Night Football, like their site.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
Like Pam.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
Job Jenny, they do great.
Speaker 7 (41:30):
Jenny Taft is awesome. And but there is this sense
of at a certain point we also have to acknowledge
like we're all spokes in the wheel, we're not the wheel,
and the league is still gonna be here and it's
still going to go forward. People are gonna say what
they want to say, and they're gonna dismiss and discredit
what you do. It doesn't mean that you have to
(41:50):
just be outraged and put more of a value on.
Everything we do has a value. But at the end
of the day, people are going to watch these games regardless.
I don't look at what christ Thompson said is oh
my god, this is just making a mockery of the
entire that portion of the business. No, it's a portion
of the business. It still has value. And if people
are gonna throw some shade on the profession, screw it,
(42:12):
ignore them, don't read the comments, and just do your job.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
That's all you can do. But too many people get
upset about this stuff two worked out.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
It's it's it's odd the things that people get worked
up about too, and like all the different things I've
seen on it when I'm like, you know how hard
it is, by the way, for sideline reporters to get
anything into a broadcast.
Speaker 6 (42:33):
You know hard it is like they get a.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
They get a pregame hit, and then they I mean,
I'm not saying they're hoping for an injury, but if
there's an injury, like that's their time to shine. They're
down there, they're on the field, they can see it,
they can give you a on the field.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
View of it.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
And outside of that, you're gonna get the coach going in,
the coach coming out, and then maybe if it's a blowout,
you get some good stories that come along with it,
or maybe another story, but like that's it, that's all
you get. And so when that's like their only opportunity,
and if a team's coach isn't compliant with it, or
he's not even willing to go out there and say anything,
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like what do you think someone's gonna do? I mean, honestly,
like she was, She's putting a tough spot in some
of these instances and again. Everyone acts like it's every
single time.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
It was a few times.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
I just it's crazy to me where people seem to
get outraged with certain things, and this is one that
it's just not worth it, folks.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Do you think RG three will campaign for her job too?
Speaker 5 (43:30):
Do you think it's possible.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
It's possible, now, though, don't get it twisted. It's on
the sideline. The closer he can get, you know, that's
that's strategic. He can run a four to three so
he can run down the sad line with the plays.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
And do Yes, that is true.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
He he can do his sadline analysis while he's running
down the field and showing like, look at this guy's
I'm faster than the guy running the ball to get
this touchdown. You should sign me.
Speaker 7 (43:59):
You know, coach, I saw you guys struggled in the
two minute drill. You know, I happen to be three
B seventy five percent completion percentage in the two minute
drill my time. I don't know if you're aware of that. Yeah,
it feels like RG three could fit that role too.
I mean, there's nothing he can't do. There's nothing he
can't do.
This is the best of two pros and a couple
of Joe with Lamar Errings rating win and Jonas Knox
on Box four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell are we on a Friday?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Well, yeah good, I'd feel better if my my Super
Bowl pick was was still alive.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Oh yeah, that one went to the to the locker
room last night, my guy.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah that did. That's gonna go ahead and wrap that up.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Just wrap that one.
Speaker 6 (00:31):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (00:31):
The Baltimore Ravens get it done, thirty four to twenty
the final, as Eddie Garcia laid out in this top
of the hour update. But the story is a story
in the game, and it involves injuries. First, what we
do know, According to John Harbaugh, Mark Andrews, the one
of the top tight ends in the league, Lamar Jackson's
(00:52):
favorite target for years now in Baltimore, suffered a serious
ankle injury. It looks like he's going to be done
for the year. So that's a bad blow for the
Baltimore Ravens. And then you transition over to the Joe
Burrow injury and just sort of the speculation that maybe
Joe Burrow went into that game, although he wasn't on
(01:13):
the injury report. But maybe he went into that game
was some sort of an issue with his right wrist,
because he was seen on a video of them getting
off the plane wearing some sort of a brace or
a sleeve on his right hand. So again, nowhere to
be found on the injury report. You know you've got
Zach Taylor afterwards just saying quickly, first, I had ever
(01:35):
seen of it. I don't know anything about it. And
you've got a bunch of people speculating as to whether
or not the league's going to have a conversation with
Cincinnati about what they knew about this injury prior to
the game.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
I think that, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Oh, the part as a player is, you know some guys,
you know you'll hide injuries your whole entire time as
a player from your own team, and you do it
because you're never in a situation where you feel security
or comfortable with your contract and your situation there. That's
(02:09):
just the reality of the NFL. Most contracts are like that.
Joe Burrow's not in that situation. He's I think he's
different in the sense of he came into this season
playing banged up.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
He wants to play for his team.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
He knows how important it is for him to play
on this team in order for the a chance to win.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
I think that's pretty clear. It's pretty evident in this case.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
The tough thing is now the Bengals organization is going
to get in trouble. I mean, there was video evidence
clearly he was wearing some sort of brace on his
right wrist. It was hard to tell if it was
his thumb or what they were trying to protect or
immobilize and give time for rest, but clearly.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
When he got in the game.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I know, one time to point it out in the
broadcast that way he fell on it kind of but
it looked like something that was bothering him coming into it,
and obviously it's something that's gonna take some time to
potentially even I hate to speculate and say surgery, but
the way he was gripping that football and trying to
warm up and he couldn't really even get through his throw,
(03:12):
it makes you think that there's something for sure more
there that could keep them out the.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Rest of the season. Yeah, I saw what you guys saw.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I mean, I would love to try to justify it
differently and say, may have been the way he fell
down on it, maybe they were doing some you know,
just proactive measures, like there are guys that do proactive rehab,
you know, j you know, we know about the guys
that they're prehabers, And I mean prehabers are really like
(03:41):
kind of like OCD brain type people. You know, they
use a different part of their brain and they like, hey, buddy,
have you ever tried this cream? Hey, have you ever
tried this pill? Listen, this supplement here, it'll help you.
Hey man, look here you got to ice it this time.
You got to go jump in the ice bat. Like
you have guys that do rollers, like beyond belief how
(04:03):
often they roll themselves out, Like there are some people
that do certain things that wear compression pants and socks
on the flights to their gats. I mean, it is
the wildest thing to see somebody who was a prehaber.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I mean, so in my mind, do you feel like
you should be doing that? Sometimes?
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Though?
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Did you ever watch them and go, man, I should
be doing.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
That, you know?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I mean them dudes had long careers, some of them,
some of them had some pretty long careers and they
right now probably so they probably do. They probably and
they're probably still prehabing, you know, they're probably still in
that regiment of how they take care of their bodies.
So I don't know Joe Burrow, So I don't know
(04:46):
what the scenario was, but it was like the first
thing I started thinking was, Okay, you can show that
he had like something on his wrist, but he.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Might have been he might be a prehaber.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
He might have had like a red laser on him,
you know, like a little red lad that he might
have had a portable TINGE unit on or it's something
like that where he just want I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
I'm just thinking.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I was trying because to me, I don't understand your
best player. If he's if he's injured to the point
of where he's coming into the game and he had
to leave out injured, why would you not have It
just doesn't add up to not have him on all
injury report.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I would put it this way as the player, I
wouldn't want as a quarterback people to know about any
injuries that I'm dealing with because I don't live's a
vulnerable like I'm a sitting duck back there. I don't
want you to think I'm less mobile. I don't want
you to think that, you know, I've got any sort
of issue that would impact ball security. I want to
(05:46):
hide everything I can from anyone out there because as
a quarterback, you really are the most vulnerable out there.
You're a sitting duck. You're waiting to get hit. So
for that reason, it's why I wouldn't want to share
anything with anyone. On top of it, I wouldn't even
want my team to know about it for future negotiations
depending on my contract situation. So there's a I could
(06:06):
think of a lot of reasons why the player wouldn't
want it. The team, though, they're the ones that's going
to face the penalty or fine depending on whatever comes
from that, and even furthermore we'll see where burrows at.
But it's I do love the fact you just listed
off almost every single thing that.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I'm trying to think.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
What, Oh pre habers, man, he's not live show. They've
got to die like you too, everything to the tea.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
I mean, that's no way to live though, all right,
don't you want to just get out there and you
know you've taken so much time worrying about Like I
feel like there's a lot of people that do make
up the prehab world now, even off the football field.
You know, they feel like there was a lot of
pre habers post COVID out there, a lot of people
(06:54):
that kind of went in that direction, and I just
feel like that's no way to live.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
And it still loves pre habers COVID right.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Now, definitely night. Yeah, they're still masking, asking up.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Masking up hard.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Like why, go I had a mask on. It was
like a five hour flight. I had a mask on
really just just just because I was I was going
to sleep and I just put a mask on.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
I just I don't know why.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
It was something their seats and like every yeah, I know,
I know I do that too.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
So here's here's.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Here's the Here's the part that I do find funny
about this, because you know, the usual suspects in the
media are going to get a hold of.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
This today and go, oh by god, this is a disgrace.
They're not being clear and transparent this, you know, with
the NFL's relationship with gambling companies. Now, that's why the
injury report existed in the first place. And blah blah,
blah blah blah. Do you really think that degenerate gamblers
around the country are going to just now not gamble
(08:05):
on the NFL and you're gonna lose their money because
Joe Burrow may or may not have had a risk injury.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Before the game.
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Do you really think they're gonna say, no, we can't
trust this league, we're out. When the NBA had their
Tim donnahey crap that the NBA kind of kept quiet
because they had a TV deal they were ready to
sign and they didn't want this stuff coming out. Do
you think gamblers were like, I'm never betting on the
NBA again. My ass They're gonna keep gambling because it's
what they do. They're degenerate gamblers. So the idea that
(08:31):
this is I would venture to guess, and you kind
of alluded to this, and you guys have mentioned this before.
How many games in your career did you go in
with no injury whatsoever?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
All Like there's not one.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
Game and you're not on the injury report every week,
Like it's like nobody's on the injury report every single week.
If you so the idea that Cincinnati did something wrong,
like Jacksonville's getting the heat because Trevor Lawrence is going
a knee injury, that they're both him and Doug Peterson
are saying, yeah, I'm dealing with a knee injury now,
but they haven't really been as clear or transparent about
(09:07):
it on the injury report. It's like these one off scenarios.
People pretend like this is a plague in the league.
If you want to do a deep dive on it,
all guys are injured all the time and they're not
an injury report.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Everyone's banged up this time of year, like everyone's dealing
with something this time of year.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
It's just it's a violent sport. How it works.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I mean, it's probably no different than a UFC match
in the sense of if you're going into that fight
and you had an injury while sparring or injury in camp,
you don't want the opponent to know about it. Like
it's a big purse. You probably need the money. You're
not gonna sit there and be like, well, I'm not
gonna do this, but you're surely not going to make
it publicized. And you know, fights get bet on all
(09:46):
the time, and I think in some instances maybe there's
a little you know, it's a feel suspect, But I
mean last night was an example to it, because I
think when you make that argument, it also takes away
from looking at what Baltimore did. And Baltimore was pretty
Dawn Dormint, you know, turned dominant last night, and I
(10:06):
kind of look at it and say, that's really been
the story of the Bengals season so far this year. Yeah,
we have not seen them be able to put together
the type of game outside of that little four game
stretch they had, we haven't really been able to see
them put together the type of game.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
You know that that.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Reminds you of like, oh, yeah, this team's going to
go on a run. They're gonna make it to a
super Bowl and potentially win a super Bowl. It just
has not been their year.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Either Burrow's been banged up and the offense got off
to a slow start where the defense was trying to
help them carry them.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
They had a nice string of like high offensive production.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
You now see what this team looks like without t
Higgins and it's a different element, you know, when he's
not able to be out there as part of one
of those pass catches next to Chase and Boyd. They
showed a lot of the broadcast last night. Jamar Chase
has been playing press. Manda Man coverage as.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Much as anyone.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
And it's not that he can't get open versus it,
but I think any you know, any wide receiver will
tell you it's a lot harder. And you got someone
up in your grill every single time and you're trying
to run a route, your timing is off, it's gonna
change the route you're supposed to run sometimes, and it's
gonna be harder to get you an accurate football because
the way your route's impact is gonna impact Joe Burrow
(11:15):
or Jake Browning in this case last night, and the
way he's trying to throw you at the football, because
now that spot's gonna be different. We used to say,
like if we're throwing a nine yard stop, which is
at throwing at nine yards, you know that's what the
receiver's gonna stop. He's gonna come back down to his
you know, downfield, you know shoulder, You're gonna put the
ball right there. His ball should be out before he
even gets to it into nine yards if it's first
(11:36):
press man and Manny's might be like two yards shorter
depending on what the rules are with that wide receivers
coach and that offense.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
So it's just so much stuff changes, and I just
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I mean, last night was an example of I thought
a dominant performance by Baltimore. Baltimore looks to be the
class of that confer It sees me division and maybe
even the Conference, depending on how Baltimore continues to.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Play from here.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
I mean, they can run the ball and there defense
is good. I mean, even gdbian clown, he's having a
good year.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Like he's been pretty consistent as a player. I just
think everyone always attributed like his success to sacks and
as an edge rusher. I get it, that's how a
lot of the guys are made and remembered. But he's
been a solid all around player as far as playing
against the run, doing his job, like doing little things,
gets batted down passes too. Like he's done all that
(12:24):
for a long time. He's been a very very good player.
It's just again, it's not like that. Hey, he's not
leading the league in sacks this year, and I think
that's unfortunately what people expect when he was drafting to
the running game.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
The Keaton Mitchell addition, I mean, how good is he
He's just so.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Quick and so fascinating space like it's a change of pay.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
It's like that you know, one to two punch or
having that that fastball with some sort of change up
with the way their backs run. So I like, I
know they want to throw the football with Todd Munkin
and the receivers they've got and some of that downfield ability,
but they still can run against pretty much anyone to feel.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
And by the way, the whole call on Odell Beckham
on the Zay Flowers touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
That I don't get it, Like what is the league
doing with this? I don't get it? Like we need
to move to a point. I know you and I
and LeVar have talked about it, like having it throughout
the game where you can challenge and make it reviewable.
That's one of those that you go, yeah, you'd probably
have that one back.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
Is that not a textbook picture perfect block by a
wide receiver?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Like that's as good as it gets.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Yeah, and say fly like you saw you got a
glimpse of Zay Flowers like what he can do and
why they drafted him. And then it gets called back
and you could just see John Harbaugh's lips and he's like,
that's such fing bs because he just knew that was crap,
like that was that was an awful call. And also
say this just about the Bengals, there's a reason why
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the percentages are what they are in NFL history when
you start off zero and two or whatever it is
and you don't make the playoffs because your margin for
air is so small after that. So a game like this,
you could lose this game and it's like, yeah, it's
a division game, that's rough, but a short week, it's understandable.
But the game last week against the Texans was the
(14:06):
one they're going to look back on. That was the
fork in the road for where they were going to
go in the season. And now you're looking up at
the lights going, yeah, it's over. They're they're they're just
not making the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Like it's not.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Happening closing time.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yep, it's unort That's what.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
It feels like.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, look, that's that was my that's my Super Bowl
pick man, And I feel like you're you're bearing it
a little bit early.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
All right, crazy things gonna happen, But I want.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
To see what the odds are on them to make
the play. If you had to guess right now, what
the odds are and the Bengals to make the playoffs.
Curty DraftKings.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Oh, at this this point in the season, plus four hundred.
We got here because think.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
About Houston's going to have the tiebreak go from You're
now talking about wildcard spots. Although Houston might end up
winning the AFC South Division, but you start looking at
some of the teams that they've got to compete with
for that. I mean, they've got three teams in the
AFC North right now that are slated to be in
the AFC you know division or excuse my conference for playoffs.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Plus one sixty five way off.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Yeah, I'm not going to handicap her with that.
Speaker 7 (15:05):
But a minus two h five for the know, I
would actually say there's some better value on the know
than there is. You only betten about two to one
on that. So I'm going to go with I'm going
to say no on the Cincinnati Bengals.
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Speaker 7 (16:32):
We should point this out a quick little programming note here,
because people think they've got everybody on this show figured out.
And if you were somebody listening to this show for
the past couple of years and you just assumed, hey,
we got to read on lead to laugh, we know
exactly what he is and who he is. There's been
a development in the saga of Lead to lab Lee
(16:53):
is now turned into a degenerate horse gambler on in
the studio. Right now we have Tea VG the horse
racing channel, and Lee is about to uh. He has
got some interest in what's what's going to be? I
believe this is the fifth race in Bahrain.
Speaker 9 (17:13):
Two minutes to post betting on still taking a look.
I'm kind of jumping around here. I was looking at
a race in France first, but now that I've got a.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Like, uh, you know, it feels like you got this
figured out, Lee, And that's just my just for my
two cents listening to you for the past.
Speaker 10 (17:33):
Oh yeah, I got I got the last place horse yesterday.
Speaker 9 (17:36):
So though I think I uh, I think there's a
prop on that right, you can get you can bet
on the last place horse.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
The question is did you bet on the last horse?
I did?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I did bet on the last horse.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
So so wait, did so you want? You got something?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I hope?
Speaker 9 (17:47):
So yeah, I got a learning lesson. I learned something
that's you know, that's the moral.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
How do you place a bet for a horse to
go last and then not know if you want anything?
Speaker 9 (17:58):
I was kidding. I didn't place it I placed it
to win place or show. But yeah, you finished last place.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
So yeah, a terrible gambler.
Speaker 10 (18:07):
Yeah, I am a terrible gambler. That's why I don't gamble.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Lee, I would say, if I'm looking at this right now,
just looking at the board, all right. So we had
a we had a change in the odds on the
I mean the seven horses the favorite. The one horse
is the co favorite. I mean I would take the
one horse. You're gonna get any a little bit more
back for your bang or bang for your buck there
with the with the one horse.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yea, so we will.
Speaker 10 (18:33):
Win place show.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And by the way, I got five. And by the way,
is his name now Live bet Lesus?
Speaker 7 (18:42):
Since Live bet Jesus no shows our program because you
guys make fun of him every time he appears.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
It's because he lost, all right, that's why.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
And again I don't know why we have to.
Speaker 10 (18:52):
By the way, son of Man two dollars on Son
of Man from Ireland.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
That's the one horse and it's from Ireland.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Wow. Wow, he's not gonna get distracted by a beer
or something.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Man.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Nobody brings you live horse race from Bahrain like this
show does.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That's right, make it rain and Bahrain.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Man.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
First of all, the fact that you could actually do
this just shows you the options for entertainment in this
country that we have at our hands and our fingertips
right now, Like, how could anybody ever be bored?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Like make it rain and Bahrain.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Make it rain and brain. You're an idiot.
Speaker 10 (19:29):
Almost it was Zoom Zoom had a great Britain.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
All right, So we'll keep you posting on whether or
not lead the lap when some horse race and bahrain
right now. Nothing like betting on the ponies in the
Middle East. That's always fun, all right. So it is
a two pros and a cup of joe here on
Fox Sports Radio. You know, since the Deshaun Watson injury
took place, people have decided to go ahead and revisit
(19:53):
just how the old trade went down between the Texans
and the Cleveland Browns. And as it stands right now
and listen, you know, still to be determined, but as
it stands right now, would you say that the Texans
fleeced the Cleveland Browns? Would that be the proper term
to use here? Like would you guys say kind of
own them?
Speaker 5 (20:11):
I mean, I'm not saying that bamboozled like.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Bamboos old WHOA very good WHOA.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Look, you can't control injuries, right wit so, so we'll
see how things go. I mean, this is essentially it
was an interesting article that was written yesterday and this
was essentially what they were kind of laying out. So
in exchange for Deshaun Watson, also a twenty twenty four
fifth round pick, which was part of that deal gets
(20:38):
lost in the shuffle, but it was part of that deal.
So we'll see it next year's draft.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Who that is.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
The Houston Texans received first round picks in twenty twenty
two last year, twenty twenty three this year's draft, and
twenty twenty four, along with a twenty twenty three third
round pick and a twenty twenty four to fourth round pick. Okay,
so in exchange for Watson the two hun and thirty
million and a fifth round pick, this is.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
What the Texans have gotten so far.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Last year, they took offensive guard Kenyan Green, all right,
he's been a good player for them in the first round.
This year's first round pick went to edge rusher Will
Anderson out of Alabama, whose solid players so far, and
then this year's third round pick has been tanked Dell,
who's arguably one of the best targets for CJ. Stroud
(21:23):
so far in his phenomenal rookie year. So next year
they've got a first round pick as well as a
excuse me, fourth round pick. I believe unless I type that,
it's either fourth or fifth. Now I'm look in my notes,
I'm not sure which, but I think the general point
is if you're looking at what the Houston Texans got
from this, this is going to feel a little bit
(21:44):
like the trade for was at RG three and the
bounty that the Rams got versus what Washington got in
that case of picks.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
And remember how used to get.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Like a bunch of you know, players that they took
from that you know, that trade up from the draft
or on the Rams. Now, I think in the end
neither team ultimately, you know, really won. But I think
most teams feel like when they get more picks, more players,
they have a better shot at being more successful that strategy.
But it is kind of interesting when you look at
where the Texans are now arguably you know, second in
(22:17):
the AFC South, but a chance to maybe go win
it this year, currently in the in the playoffs, if
it started today and then where they could could potentially
go with next year's first round pick and another pick
later on. They've done They've done well drafting so far,
and they put themselves in a spot to be a
competitive for years.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I look at it and I go, I think, I
think the Houston Texans got it.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Bad. I mean, I think you got to go with
the Houston Texans. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Yeah, because in the end, you got rid of a
major contract that Deshaun Watson was carrying, and you were
able to move on for for good or for bet.
You were able to move on from a large contract
with a guy that didn't want to be there, and
they found a trade recipient. That's that's That's what I
(23:10):
would say, is because they were able to find a
partner and unload Deshaun Watson and get from underneath that
that contract if I understand it right, because I don't
understand contracts one hundred percent all the way, but I
would say in my asstination, that would be why they
came out on top.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
They didn't get from out underneath the contract.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
When Watson got there, they were structured and gave him
that contract.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
So I mean, technically they got out of the.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Right, but it was still a big fight he had
just you're right, the old one, right, not the new one.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Not the new one.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
He still had a very very large contract that he
had just signed for in Houston.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Did another term short term you almost would say like,
not only did they get out from underneath it with
a player that he but which by the way, I mean,
regardless of what plays off the field, he said before
he didn't want to play there anyway. He didn't want
to play for a call MC near team, so it
didn't look like that was gonna work out anyway. So
not only did they get out from underneath the contract,
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but they didn't have to pay him. This contract one
that really the Browns can't get out from until twenty
twenty seven, and the cap hits are significant in the
coming years.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
So from the at least I guess the cap perspective.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
You'd say Houston's in a better spot given that they've
got their franchise quarterback of the future in CJ. Stroud,
even though that wasn't part of the deal, but it
still opened it up to then taking a quarterback because
they needed one, as opposed to, you know, sticking to
a bigger contract. And Watson, and then you've got three
picks so far that are all starters, all impactful players
(24:45):
so far.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
So it will be interesting to see how this works
out moving forward.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
But I mean, Jonahs, I know we've talked about this
in the past, like this was always the comparison for
the Saint Louis Rams and Washington based on that trade
and comparing like all those players that you know, Saint
Louis was able to get from trading out of that
spot with Washington when they traded up to take RG three.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
Now, Oh, it's funny you bring up RG three. Did
you know that you know, RG three's kind of floating
around still. I don't know if you guys were aware
of that, but that the book deal the apparently that
has not gone through. We were still working and efforting
on finishing that book. But you know RG three did
did kind of throw his name in the hat, did
kind of let everybody know, like if the Cleveland Browns
(25:27):
need a quarterback, if they need somebody to kind of
help out the situation there in Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Pick me. Let's listen to the campaign starring RG three.
Speaker 11 (25:38):
The Browns should sign me as their starting quarterback. And
here's why one, At thirty three years old, I understand
the game better than I ever have in my entire career.
I know how to slide and I know when to slide,
and that was a huge issue in my eight years
in the NFL. But I've learned, I've learned from my mistakes,
and I'm ready to showcase that I can get it done.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 11 (25:59):
Deshaun Watson went fourteen for fourteen in the second half
against the Baltimore Ravens, and he used his legs to
go out and scramble and extend plays. Of those fourteen passes,
there weren't really any of them that you would say
were two hundred and thirty million.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Dollar worthy passes.
Speaker 11 (26:14):
All they needed him to do was manage the game
because of them dogs they got over there on defense,
starting with Miles Garrett.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Well, guess what I ain't do that I.
Speaker 11 (26:23):
Can go out there and manage a game for the
Cleveland Browns and help them go on the Super Bowl
run that they want to go on.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
But here's the second thing.
Speaker 11 (26:30):
I still run a four to three forty people and
I can throw the football eighty yards. I train every
week like an NFL football player, so I could be
ready for moments just like this, so they need to
hit my line. And the third thing is for me.
If Dorian Thompson Robinson is going to be their guy
and they don't bring me in to be the starter,
(26:50):
then they should bring me in to be the backup.
So I can help him in the same ways that
I helped Lamar Jackson. I learned six offenses in eight
years in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Nobody wants to talk about it, but.
Speaker 11 (27:01):
Learning a new offense has never been a problem for me,
and I can help dtr with his decision making, when
to make certain plays and truly to understand what he
has to do as a quarterback with a defense like
that on the other side of the football.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Man, what a tool. Good god, wow.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Let me say this. I mean, ye, bring him, sign
him up.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I mean, they're obviously looking for veteran guys. He spent
some time in Cleveland, so he knows the landscape.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
I just I find it interesting that.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I mean, obviously RG three has had a lot to
say sometimes about stuff, so I'm not gonna be person
who points out the fact that he completely is belittle
the best half of football. That's Sean Watson had during
his time in Cleveland so.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Far, everybody on the roster at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Which is interesting, Like I want you to sign me,
but I'm gonna be little not only the starter in
his best half of football, playing gutsy and bringing you
back to a win, but also why PJ Walker? Apparently
it's irrelevant because he knows more football than PJ. Which, look,
he's he played longer than PJ so far, and maybe
he does maybe he can help him that case, or
(28:15):
that he needs to be a you know, in there
for dtr instead Like I just not necessarily the way you.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
To enter into a roster, but look, I'd love to
see it.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I've always I've always said this, like if if guys
are sitting there, you know, wanting to get back in
and play, wanting for the opportunity, whoever it may be, Yeah,
throw him in there.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Let's see what it looks like. Like I like, it's
all fun to talk about. Honestly, didn't know if this
was real or not when it first came out, Like
I don't know if it was like.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Not not even a deep fake.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I thought like it might have been a skit or
something or maybe something they're doing for like a podcast
story show. That's what I thought initially, but it seems
like he really wants it, so sign him up. Let's
another thing is like it's all almost like he spits
in the face of like Andrew Barry too for whatnot
and give you him a call or not, like like
he's got your number, like they know who you are,
(29:07):
Like if they want you.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
They'll call LeVar.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I mean, this is your guy, So what's going on?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
By the way, I hope he doesn't get like sensitive
about people commenting on It's.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
Like you put it out there.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Once you put something out there like this, it's open
for anyone and everyone to say whatever they feel and
like people And if he's gonna be upset about like
people being critical about it's like, well, that's kind of
on you, man, Like no one asked you to do that,
like your appetite, Like like you could just call the team,
you could call Stefanso, call Andrew Barry. I'm sure you
could get their numbers and make that happen. If you're like, hey, man,
(29:43):
let's just bring me in for work. I don't tell anyone,
you know, and let's see what I can do.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
But that's not the point.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
The point is is to put it out there so
that everyone can hear it. Like he made it very clear,
like why do why does no one talk about what
RG redid for for Lamar Jackson, like because nobody cares.
I mean that that would be the reason why nobody
is talking about what you did for Lamar Jackson and
(30:11):
other things that you've done at this point, because nobody cares.
I mean, once you're done, you're done. And that's just
generally how it happens for everybody that place. But you
know that's I mean, I'm with you, cute, give him
a chat, see what he can do. I mean, I
would say that's this isn't this isn't as laughable if
if it was Kaepernick doing it at this point. I mean,
(30:34):
there is some legitimacy here to it.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
What's what's laugh laughable is the lack of self awareness
that he doesn't like in the whole process. Because it's edited,
it's it's on RG three and the ones. That's that's
the credit here, it's edited, it's put together. He's being serious,
and at no point during the process does he realize, Okay,
I'm basically driving a bus over Deshaun Watson. I'm driving
(30:59):
a US over p J. Walker and Dorian Thompson Robinson
please sign me, like they're just at no point that
that entered into his mind. Like that blows my mind
that that's that this is the thought process for him.
But hey, that's our unique.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Way of doing it.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Man, It's a different route to get there.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I mean he look, he spent a year in Cleveland,
spent time in Baltimore. He knows the AFC North Division,
which I think is important because you got to know
the Brandon style of football and the weather and throwing
those conditions. So, like I said, I mean, it's been
on a few years. What was the last season, twenty twenty?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Oh, no, sign up, let's go. All right, let's make go,
Let's make it happen.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
All right.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
That'll be a chapter I'm teen in his book.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Will be strategy. Yeah it is. Is this going to
get in the way of the book?
Speaker 5 (31:48):
You think?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I don't know? Like now it's going to relate another chapter.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
I think it's another chapter.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, it's still still being written. It's going to delay
it even longer.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
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Speaker 2 (32:07):
You Know Else is a part of Amazon. Very nice, CHRISA.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
Thompson, She's a part of She's the host of the
coverage on Thursday nights for Amazon Prime. And people are
not happy with her. They're not happy with something that
she said. This was on Pardon My Take. She talked
about her time as a sideline reporter in the NFL.
So let's take it away.
Speaker 12 (32:30):
And I've said this before, so I haven't been fired
for saying it, but I'll say it again. I would
make up the report sometimes because a the coach wouldn't
come out at halftime or it was too late, and
I was like, I didn't want to screw up the report.
So I was like, I'm just going to make this
up because first of all, no coach is going to
get mad if I say, hey, we need to stop
hurting ourselves. We needed to be better on third down,
we need to stop.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
Turning the ball over the quarterback.
Speaker 12 (32:52):
We need yeah, exactly, and do a better job of
getting off the field. Like they're not going to correct
me on that. I'm like, it's fine, I'll just make
up the report now.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
But what if that's not what's going on?
Speaker 7 (33:02):
Well, but that's the proud now. People are very very upset.
They feel like they've been bamboozled. You had sideline reporters
who went to social media and talked about how this
damages their reputation and how hard they work on their craft,
and all of that is fair. I mean, I know this,
(33:23):
I'm probably still going to keep watching the NFL. I'll
be honest with you. I don't know that this is
going to deter me from watching the NFL. So it
feels like the a bit of an overreaction from people
taking shots to Chrissa Thompson over this.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Let me say this because I've been around Carissa, I've
worked around Chrissa, I would say this, she is extremely
talented and greater at her job, like as a host
in a production meeting, you know, and a lot of
people don't really know what that means. A production meetings
where youre gonna find out what we're going to talk
about in a show. And I've found Chrissa to be
(33:58):
probably the best I've ever sat in a room and
listened to the producers the talent, everyone talk about what
they're trying to talk about, and she does.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
An incredible job.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
And I think she came up through the producing side,
so she kind of gets it from that perspective, But
she does a credible in job of knowing what needs
to be said and how the talent wants to get there,
how to get them there, and what the producers are
looking for and what viewers are looking for. Like she's
been incredibly successful in her job and career for a reason,
and so from a professional standpoint, like she to me
(34:33):
is one of the best of what she does. Now
she's not really doing sideline reporting, which is a bit
odd that everyone's, you know, all of a sudden she's
trying a big issue with this and not taking away
from the fact that you obviously shouldn't do that. But
this also isn't something that if you listen to the podcast,
because I'm sure many people who chimed in on social
media only heard the clip and she they probably don't
(34:55):
listen to Chrissa and Aaron's podcast all the time, and
not that I do either, but in this particular case,
I went back and listened to more of it than
just the part of my take clip to be able
to hear other instances, and I just say this, it's
not like she did that all the time like everyone.
It went from it being hey, I've done this before
to oh, every report was fabricated, Like why is our
(35:17):
society like that? We're like one little thing here there
and people who are coming out of the woodwork.
Speaker 6 (35:23):
It's like, okay, let me ask you this.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Did you ever at some point maybe fib or make
something up or a lie to someone because you weren't
quite where you wanted to be, or weren't quite doing
what you're supposed to be doing, or the dog gets
your homework. Like, I feel like we're so easy to
look at someone and be like, oh, well they're wrong,
that's wrong, they should be fired or whatever they want
to say with that. And yet we never look in
the mirror. So I sit there and look at it
(35:48):
just say should she have done that?
Speaker 5 (35:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Is it tough when you're on live television and your
producers ask you for a report and you're supposed to
be telling everyone what the head coach said. Yeah, I
mean in part that's on a little bit of the producer,
because if she's hitting a back saying hey, the coach
isn't coming out, he needs to say, well that, hey,
we're canning this now. The problem is the formatics of
any live game. They'll tell you that like that's what
they want. They want to hear what the one coach
(36:13):
said going into the locker room, one coach said going.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Out of it, and how it usually works.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
The winning coach goes going into the locker room, the
losing coach gets it coming out of the locker room.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Usually how it works.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
And so if you can't get one of those two guys,
it's going to reflect poorly on her, meaning she can't
do her job. And she was saying stuff that wasn't overlypeutited,
like she kind of admitted to that how she'd phrase it,
but she didn't do it all the time.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
And so I'm not trying to make.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Light of it because in reality, if she was doing that,
she probably should have told anyone she was doing that,
but she should have never done it in the first place.
But it's also not something where people even calling for
a job or just standing on the soapbox taking a
grand stand about it. I mean, it's just it's ridiculous
the way our society reacts to stuff like this, like,
calm down, she's not perfect, You're not perfect.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
Relax, like, we're still going to watch the NFL.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
And I think one of the starting to rebler but
one of the examples that she gave is she asked
a coach, you know, what sort of adjustment are you
going to make for the second half? Whatever it was,
and and I think the coach responded with that perfume
smells really nice.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
It's like, so what is she supposed to do?
Speaker 7 (37:23):
You know, a couple of minutes into the second half,
let's go down of Carissa for an update from the sideline. Well,
he liked my Issimiaki perfume, and you know, that's what
we got here for the second half?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Back to you guys. Know, so she was like, all right,
I can't go on the airth so what do you
want me to do?
Speaker 7 (37:42):
I mean, but she could have just aired the coach out,
you know, and made those But like, I just feel
like people ran with this because they just want something
to be outraged about.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
They can't help it.
Speaker 6 (37:53):
Every day the people like easy targets.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
And obviously Chris is incredibly success full and she's not
going to fire back at someone, right And so people
like fights that where they can poke fun or they
can say stuff because they know that she's probably above
all of it.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
She's not going to give it the time of day.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
She's already at the top, you know, of her career
what she's doing. And so you know, it's a bunch
of people. There's probably some who are envious, probably some
arer jelious. There's probably some of who saying, well, you know,
if I did that in my career, I would never
you know, be able to keep for starters one, like,
she's not doing that job anymore. So like what are
we talking about, Like we're acting like she's she's down there.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
Like yeah, not her, and yeah she's not her, right, yeah,
you're not her.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Like some people can do what they do because of
what you said earlier.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
They're just great at what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
When you've done it, when you've had a whole lot
of reps and you've got a lot of experience, you
learn how to fudget. Sometimes that's just what it is.
It's part of it. People have had to adapt into
adjust an act live. In more than one instance, such
is the one she's using. While it isn't it is
not something that you should make a habit of doing.
(39:07):
She's basically saying she's for what is worth this. How
I read it, you're basically saying, I'm professional enough to
still give a generalized vanilla approach to what needs to
be done when I didn't get the cooperation I needed.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
To do my job done. She ain't gotta apologize for that.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
And you don't need to sit there and think that
you're her and you're not getting no opportunities and you
wouldn't be.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Able to get away with it.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
You're right, you're right, so live with it. But that
doesn't mean she's not great at what she does. She's
climbed to the top because she is great at what
she does.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
She was that big ten network. She's done.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
She's been around a really long time. I love it
when people pay their dues. When you've been in this
business a long time and you can see, oh wait,
you go back six, seven, eight, nine, ten years and
they were doing smaller jobs, local jobs, you know, different
things like that that you didn't know anything about. But
(40:06):
you think this is an overnight success story for a
lot of these people that put in the time and the.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Effort, Like I don't I don't have a problem with
her coming out and saying it.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Let's just take this on a grander scheme too, Like
in the world that we live in now, okay, knowing
what we know about our our you know, sports obviously
and news information and how we get it, like this
is the hill you're gonna die on, Like this was
the final straw of misinformation or news or something that
bothered you again, really like this is that time where
you really want to throw a fit about someone who's like, yeah,
(40:39):
I made up and said something kind of generic and honestly,
like it almost sounds like at times she was protecting
the people, either because of what they said or they weren't,
you know, coming out, and maybe she's got a person
relationship and she's like, yeah, they're not going to say anything.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
Anyway, but like this is the hill. This is the
hill you're willing to die on.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
With everything else that's out there in the way media
is handled, are we see her.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
It's also so like I saw some you know, I'm
not gonna you know, name names, but sideline reporters who
are like, you know, some of the comments because people
one of the go to is after this story came out,
was a big deal. Uh, nobody cares about the sideline
reporters anyways. Like me personally, I think Katie Hartung does
a great job on Thursday Night Football, like their site.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
Like Pam.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
Job Jenny, they do great.
Speaker 7 (41:30):
Jenny Taft is awesome. And but there is this sense
of at a certain point we also have to acknowledge
like we're all spokes in the wheel, we're not the wheel,
and the league is still gonna be here and it's
still going to go forward. People are gonna say what
they want to say, and they're gonna dismiss and discredit
what you do. It doesn't mean that you have to
(41:50):
just be outraged and put more of a value on.
Everything we do has a value. But at the end
of the day, people are going to watch these games regardless.
I don't look at what christ Thompson said is oh
my god, this is just making a mockery of the
entire that portion of the business. No, it's a portion
of the business. It still has value. And if people
are gonna throw some shade on the profession, screw it,
(42:12):
ignore them, don't read the comments, and just do your job.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
That's all you can do. But too many people get
upset about this stuff two worked out.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
It's it's it's odd the things that people get worked
up about too, and like all the different things I've
seen on it when I'm like, you know how hard
it is, by the way, for sideline reporters to get
anything into a broadcast.
Speaker 6 (42:33):
You know hard it is like they get a.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
They get a pregame hit, and then they I mean,
I'm not saying they're hoping for an injury, but if
there's an injury, like that's their time to shine. They're
down there, they're on the field, they can see it,
they can give you a on the field.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
View of it.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
And outside of that, you're gonna get the coach going in,
the coach coming out, and then maybe if it's a blowout,
you get some good stories that come along with it,
or maybe another story, but like that's it, that's all
you get. And so when that's like their only opportunity,
and if a team's coach isn't compliant with it, or
he's not even willing to go out there and say anything,
(43:08):
like what do you think someone's gonna do? I mean, honestly,
like she was, She's putting a tough spot in some
of these instances and again. Everyone acts like it's every
single time.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
It was a few times.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
I just it's crazy to me where people seem to
get outraged with certain things, and this is one that
it's just not worth it, folks.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Do you think RG three will campaign for her job too?
Speaker 5 (43:30):
Do you think it's possible.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
It's possible, now, though, don't get it twisted. It's on
the sideline. The closer he can get, you know, that's
that's strategic. He can run a four to three so
he can run down the sad line with the plays.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
And do Yes, that is true.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
He he can do his sadline analysis while he's running
down the field and showing like, look at this guy's
I'm faster than the guy running the ball to get
this touchdown. You should sign me.
Speaker 7 (43:59):
You know, coach, I saw you guys struggled in the
two minute drill. You know, I happen to be three
B seventy five percent completion percentage in the two minute
drill my time. I don't know if you're aware of that. Yeah,
it feels like RG three could fit that role too.
I mean, there's nothing he can't do. There's nothing he
can't do.
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