November 30, 2023 • 45 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Aaron Rodgers returns to practice but LaVar’s won’t believe in a miraculous comeback until he sees it. TheMMQB’s Albert Breer talks about Michigan beating his Buckeyes and all things NFL and the situation with Mac Jones and the Patriots has become worse than Zach Wilson and the Jets.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yes, the twenty one day window has opened up. Aaron Rodgers, Baby,
let's go, come on Rogers twenty one. He is back
in some capacity, back to some capacity. Now we don't
know whether or not this actually means he's gonna play.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
He's proud of Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Robert Sala did speak about it.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Back it on the field.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Rogers did return to practice. He was cleared for.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
What is crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Functional football activity, but not contact yet. So this twenty
one day window, there's a target date that's been thrown
out there. Christmas Eve against the Washington Commandos A has
been a target date that Rogers, I think has talked
about before. But here was Robert Sala speaking with the
media yesterday about the return of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Guys coming off they're usually not ready to play football.
There's still a little bit of a health concern there,
and so you know, you use these twenty one day
windows to see where they're at. So we're so far
away from that. But like I said, the mindset for
this is more of a progression in his rehab and
like I said, he's been cleared for functional football activity,
he's not cleared to fully play football. And you know
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it's so it's like I said, part of his rehab progression.
He's old school in the sense that he is driven.
Is there motivation to be the first ever do it?
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
That's okay.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
That is why.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
It's a mentality that I think young guys should be
able to grasp to. That he loves this organization, he
wants to be with his teammates, he wants to be here.
I think he's sacrificed so much already for the organization
and himself and his teammates, and he's doing it again.
I think it's a testament to who he is.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
So they don't love y'all if they don't set the
hell up.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
Well, I will say this man, he didn't. He didn't
need to try to come back this fast. I mean
there is something too. I think his desire to want
to play in New York improve doubters wrong. I mean,
I think the biggest concern is, you know, the only
other player to come back, you know, within like a
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six month period, right would have been Cam Akers. I
think Aaron's gonna come back one hundred days sooner than
Cam Akers who came back this season.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
And the concern is what happened to Cam Akers.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
He retore his achilles, So that's that's my big time
concern for Aaron Rodgers is if he's able to come
back and Christmas Eve become that Christmas gift that Jets
fans were hoping for this season. It's remarkable, maybe the
greatest accomplishment for a guy who's won MVP's a super
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Bowl to be able to defy like logic and have
this miraculous recovery. But like, I just get concerned long
term at forty years old, like, is he even at
a greater risk now reinsuring it putting himself in that position,
Like that's gotta be a huge, huge weight, And then
doesn't matter if they're still in the hunt for the
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playoffs or nots Aaron Rodgers, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I honestly don't know if it does. Maybe it does
to a degree.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
But maybe he just wants to come back and play,
try to build momentu into Like heading into twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Aaron Rodgers has been a lightning rod of attention, and
he's great at it. He's great at keeping people down
in and focused in on him. This is nothing even
with Robert Salah, He's got him drinking the kool leg
Even Robert Salah is sold on the fact of giving
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Aaron Rodgers the amount of attention that Aaron Rodgers has
always commanded. He's just brilliant not keeping people's attention. Man,
that man ain't coming back and playing. He's not gonna
come back and play. He's not gonna play.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You don't think so. Now, no place of wager on
that I think he's coming back. Place the wager I
think this is. This would be a place the wager
giant middle finger to medicine and all the criticism he's gotten. Yeah,
what I'm trying to say now, I don't I don't want.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And that is something that he has made very strong
references to to doing things the way that he does them.
But it's just for conversation sakes. It's s and giggles like.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I don't know, man, I think not only will he
do it, I wouldn't be surprised if.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
He marched, guys, if he marched out on the field
and wrote Fauci on his cleat.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I swear, I swear to God, it's a.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Great it's a great pool. All I'll say is is
if you guys are right, then I'll give you that
that prop at that moment in time. But until that
moment happens, there's no way in hell I'm sitting there
thinking that just because it's Aaron Rodgers, he's going to
defy the laws of science and different methods.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Though it wasn't what they're saying. They were using like
the sound of dolphins mating or something.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, that's what they said, and orcas taking taking number
two's yeah what yeahducing it up.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
I legitimately heard. I legitimately heard the whole dolphins thing.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, I don't know orcas are dolphins there there, cousin,
but if you had.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And I can understand having doubts about it, But I mean,
we're less than three months since it's happened.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Sounds by the way, Yeah, yeah, that feels better.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
It was like.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Sounds like that's like that's probably a big crap to
by the way, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I don't want to think about it.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
That vacation swimming that ocean, like you forget there's a
lot of fish on the path.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
You're having a kid every time.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Hey, so back there you go into the water, You're.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Like, oh that was there was an orca here is
that kryptonite? But with Aaron Rodgers, my whole idea of
this is to keep people talking. He is now once
again and he's never really gone away. Zach Wilson did
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an excellent job by playing just well enough but bad
enough where he stole the headlines. He became more of
the headlines of the New York Jets. Aaron Rodgers has
taken it back and now he is giving you know
that sacrifice that Robert Salas talking about. He's taking the
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anger and the disappointment of Jets fans and he's refocusing
their attention onto something positive. He's moving the goalposts. Well,
give give them credit, but he's not coming back. There's
a difference. There's a different than seven.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I get to save this. If he does come back here, Oh.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I love it. It will sound amazing.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
It will, but you will not love it because you
do not like admitting this sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I don't like admitting when I'm wrong. I really don't wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
But you you don't think that the fact that he's
even back at this point would cause some reservations for
you to be so bold.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I think that that's a phenomenal that he's back and
he's throwing the ball at this point and has been
cleared to do different activities.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Yeah, and by the way, just so people understand, at
this point, you know, when you have the twenty one
day window opened, you're cleared to practice now and you
don't count against the roster, which is the key thing.
So for the next three weeks, these next three games,
you know, he could still be out there ramping himself up,
as Robert Saliz said from a rehab standpoint, And really
it's it's the intensity, right, and LaVar, you suffer this injury.
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Like what you're trying to do anytime you have an
injury is continually build up the intensity of your body's
going to endure to prepare it for a game, because
there's nothing like a game. And that's why it's such
a big risk, is practice. Speed is one thing.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
There is one thing, and that's what I was getting to.
So I'm glad you went there. So there you go.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Because and then I think more than that, I mean
that life field has become like sant Anina has it hot.
I mean, I'm just saying that turf has.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Dudes in the body bag.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
I mean the caps, Okay, Jonas, I know you how
many have we had this year on that turf?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Three majors?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
At least three major There is just one what was
the one that just Jalen Phillips that just took place?
Speaker 7 (08:42):
You know?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Then there was for sure another one that to that
also happened. And and this is after they reportedly switched
out the turf in the off season, right, so there's
just a bad I don't look, it could be the
curse of Jimmy Hoffa.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
That has to be.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
That field, by the way, that is that is a
great all it is is the NFL's equivalent to Santa Anita.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
But q q's point, I mean, I'm I'm going to
leave to leave the white the white sheets alone not
just good for me people like me to stay away from.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
You had to go there.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
On black on topic, uh, beautiful place with no space
heater that morning.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I find it to be very curious that they would say,
you guys were right, Yeah, we were there. It was
dead wondering. I mean, I mean it was three in
the morning. It was three in the morning. I'm saying
it was dead as.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
There was no one there. That is so well done.
That is so well done.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Hey, the commanders though, like you're bringing back So basically
you're saying now that they've gotten rid of a sweat
and and uh and young that's their last game of
the season.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
How good this sweat look?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It looks pretty good making a difference for Chicago. Listen,
if you're going to bring that man back. As Q
has mentioned, game reps cannot be simulated in any other
form fashion, any other place other than on the game
field on game day. So he's not going to know
what his body is. True, he knows he's not going
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to get hit in practice.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
He knows that Rodney Pete ruptured both his achilles and
he told me yesterday that at about four to five
months he started to feel a little bit comfortable. He
could stand up on his toes, he could do it.
He said, he wasn't ready to go, Like, there's just
you're you're not ready to go. But I just wonder
this surgery being But again, that's a long time ago. Yeah,
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that's a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
But the bottom line is your body is going to
react differently. When you see a three hundred pound grown
ass mammal come in your way during the course of
a game that is allowed to hit you if they
get there. The movement you're gonna make, even before you
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get hit, might be the most detrimental movements that you make,
not even the hit itself, but the body that your
your mind and what it's going to try to force
your body to do, like woo s. Don't want that,
don't want to get that hit. Let's get rid of
the ball, whatever it is, whatever in that moment your
body's doing. What you're not doing is thinking about the
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damage you're doing to yourself when you make those movements.
If you're not prepared to do that.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Here's what I know.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
We not touch football.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
We talked about him being comeback player of the Year
earlier in the week.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
And if he plays one play and he goes down
in a heap of s, he will get Comeback Player
of the Year.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
He was ten to one a couple of days ago.
According to DraftKings, is down to eight to one.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Move better get that money in.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
The problem is Deamar Hamblin was at minus one seventy five.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
He's at a minus two to ten.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Now, so did he start the season like minus three fifty?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, well, because everyone just assumed may the guy almost died,
you know, I mean if he's on the selection committee
of that, when did you place a bet when you
have somebody else place the bet?
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Yes, I think that's considered ethical.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
But yes, of course it's ethical to do that. Yeah,
I mean that's kind of wild. Yeah, that's why they
put a limit on I'm gonna tell.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
My cousin's cousin, cousins cousin's cousin to place that bet.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
That's why they put limits on the prop bets for
the Super Bowl because all the people who are there
the week of listening to the rehearsal of the anthem,
they do exactly how.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
And you got some scubback security guard looking in to
see what the color of the gatorade is. We can
text his buddy and be like.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Right, yeah, you think he's over there playing pocket pool. Meanwhile,
he's just putting in a bet on his phone.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Moving.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
That's that's that's what that's moving. He was just trying
to just distract people from how bad the Chargers are.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
So we're off and running.
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vent tent. Okay, So anything you want to get off here,
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
I don't know my timing coming in here. I think
the conversation is going in interesting directions before any jumped in.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
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Just be honest for one second.
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I mean I don't think that question man's comments.
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Speaker 7 (14:58):
I mean, I agree with you. It'll probably be a
good business.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I feelings too, Albert.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
We uh were five days removed from the game and
the classic between Ohio State and Michigan. How do you
feel about your buck?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Guys?
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Well, not great, but you know it was you know what,
like I I like, I'm The way I deal with
these things is I dive into everything and I wind
up reading everything in the days after and watching things
and all of that different stuff. So it's probably not
the healthiest thing. But you know one thing that struck me.
I'd be interested to hear Brady's opinion on this because
it's kind of like, you know, he was there. I like,
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it's like.
Speaker 9 (15:40):
It kind of crystallized to me, like over the last
couple of days that I really feel like Ohio State,
like the players, the coaches is I almost like they
went out there to prove something, where Michigan went out.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
There to win a game. And I think in a
lot of ways, Michigan handled that game the way an
NFL team would, where when the true freshman goes in
the game, they's got right at him for a touchdown.
When the when there an injury at safety, they run
at the safety t when there's you know, linebackers who's
danged up, they're throwing at the linebackers with the tight
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end so like, and then they go in the four
minute offense at the end of the game. I just
think like Michigan won that game on the margins, and
they won that game in like a very NFL way,
like the NFL that the staff handled that game in
a very NFL way and won it situationally, where you know,
it just sort of felt like Ohio State again, Like
it kind of like they went out there was something
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to prove, like we're the better team and didn't own
the situation the way the Michigan did.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's one way of looking
at it.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
I tend to think that the best games in college football,
the best teams, they end up playing in a style
where the situations do matter, you know, like they do
in the NFL, because the margins are so slim. You know,
That's that's what you kind of don't get throughout the
course of the regular season besides two or three games
usually right, and this is one of them where I
thought Sharon More went in with a game plan where
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he was aggressive on fourth down. He was more creative
with the play calling, you know, coming out of halftime
alex Orgy and the Wildcat that was kind of like,
oh what are you doing here? It was effective to
moving the football. The half back pass kind of come
at a better time. Like all that creativity, the gutsiness
to go for the fourth downs and when they did
to kind of control the game. You just didn't have
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that from Ohio State, and I don't know why because
you really based on how the past two years have
gone and obviously didn't play in the COVID year, It's
like you could have done that.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
You know.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
I hate to say it, but like I you know,
when I was in school there, John Cooper was the
coach you were growing up in Columbus in the nineties, Brady,
and I just remember like it kind of felt like
Coop coached those games with the way that the world
led shoulders, you know what I mean. And I don't
want to put I don't want to say Ryan's there yet,
but like it did feel like that staff had a
weight on it, you know, as a coach in that game,
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and that was just disappointing because it felt the same
way last year. And then after that it felt like
that weight came off of them when they coached against Georgia,
you know, and.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Well because they had a shot up winning the national championship,
like the then the game doesn't seem quite as significant.
If they take care of business win at all, they'll
always be that, well, we lost that one, but we
won a national championship, right. I think the most interesting
thing about the pressure that's on Ryan Day because of
the last three years versus Michigan is John Cooper was
two ten and one. I mean, he got thirteen cracks
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at it, whereas we're talking about a coach in Ryan
Day's only lost what six games?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Yeah, and like people.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Were already ready to move on, And it's just it's
crazy how impatient we've gotten as a fan base society.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
I think it's sad, but it's also like what Ryan
Day inherited versus what John Cooper inherited, you know what
I mean. I think that's part of it too, you know.
And I do think there was that feeling that that
nineteen team was national championship caliber team. Now you had,
you know, the Clemson game, and they lose a Clemson
game in LSU. Maybe nobody was seed him that year.
And then the next year, you know, you're right there,
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and then you lose like a half dozen starters because
of COVID going into the title game. So and you know,
Tray Surmon breaks his collar going on the first play
of the game. So I don't know, I mean, I
feel like, if you're this good, you're going to keep
getting cracks at it. You're going to eventually break through.
It took Jim harbout seven years to the Ohio State.
You know, Davos. Davos swinging was seen a certain way
for what seventy eight nine years. And I feel like
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Michigan and Clemson are two schools that you know that the.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Patients that those two schools exhibited with.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
The coaches, even when the heat was on, wound up
paying off. And maybe that'll be the case here too.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
One last thing I'm starting to take out all this
time time about this game, But the only thing I'd
saying defense of of Earl Bruce is he only had
one season.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Where he won less than nine games.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
You know, you go back to the John Cooper, it
was a slow build, like it took time and especially
in the beginning for him to kind of get to
where they ultimately got to in the early nineties.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
But like late eighties to the nineties, like it wasn't
it was.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
I mean, I actually thought Earl Bruce had him a
much better and more consistent level, even though you know,
especially through Bowl games and all that, as compared to Cooper.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
I think he'd agree that the Cooper like modernized the
recruiting there, Like.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
He nationalized the recruit you know, David Boston wasn't you know,
he really did bring it on a national scale where
you had, you know, guys like Eddie George and David
Boston and that.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yeah, there's so many. Mike Wiley, that's right, that's right,
he was number five.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, Ricky Dudley, can I can I ask you and
just you know, because we can transition too for me
to to the league. Aaron Rodgers. It's it's he continues
to find ways to dominate the minds and the hearts
of fans and media. How how serious is this return ab.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
It's it's serious. And they've been you know, they've been
talking about like this for a while, and I know,
you know, the Jets people have been very very careful
in the way they've addressed it, and they never but
they never shut the door, you know. And in September
when all of this sounded crazy, you know what you
would hear from them as well, you know, like it's
not impossible and even like I can remember when it was,
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you know, when we were there in I mean now
I'm trying to think, but when we were sitting there
in you know, in in in like in right, around Halloween.
I remember talking to somebody there and it was like, okay,
so this could be like first second week of January,
and I got back like, well, you know, it might
be faster than that. So there's always been kind of
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like this very cautious undercurrent of optimism on where he
is physically. And now I think you're seeing that start
to you know, you're starting to see the reasoning for
it now. I don't know, like as far as like
the innovative medical techniques that have been used here, all
that different stuff, but you know, I think it certainly
puts them. You know, it's certainly been something.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Okay, what the hell is happening.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
This time? So this time, guys, this time, can you
hear me?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Yeah? Yeah, everyone, this time?
Speaker 7 (22:20):
So this time, my wife tied in the car and
you might have heard her, and she's got her mouth
wide open right now, and my kid is laughing always
my kid.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Hi, Brier family, how are we doing this morning?
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Hope you had a wonderful thing.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
That's a brand, she said.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
They say, don't you mess with her?
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Do you? Guys? Do? You guys know what just happened?
But the car I'm sitting on the porch and the uh,
it's all right, sorry, man, you're Good's great. I see
I didn't even get to hear that. You guys got
to hear that.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
You know what's great is my.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
Three year old, my nine year old, my nine year old.
We're driving him up to a hockey tournament. He is
a hockey tournament this weekend in Vermont, and so this
is like kind of like a hectic day for him.
He's only going to go to school for a couple
of hours. And uh, yeah, so I guess he's been
a little uh he's been a little loud.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, what my wife calls it, honorey was he's been
a little honoring.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
My three year old came in two days ago and
I'd hit the mute button, try to you know, calmer
down in the morning.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Once.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
I was glad it didn't make air, but part of
me wanted it to make air, just because I was like,
this actually could be great radio.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
I try to talk down a three year old how
to get back to bed?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
So, Albert, I have a question for you. Uh A
former Ohio State buck guy one Justin Fields, is his
future in Chicago already determined? Or is he legitimately playing
for the right to be the Bears quarterback of the future.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
The rest of the way, well, he doesn't have to
take control over it. Like I think it's interesting if
you like Kyler murray situation in Arizona, right where he
can legitimately play the team out of the position to
draft his replacements, Justin Field doesn't have that same level
of control because the Bears have the Panthers stick and
as long as the Panthers are the worst team in
the league, this is going to come down to Justin
(24:11):
Fields versus Caleb Williams, Justin Fields versus Drake may That's
sort of where they are, and it's probably where they're
going to be at the end of the year. And
that's why I think this is really an uphill client
for him. Now. I think he's incrementally getting better. I
think the people who've coached him would tell you he
just needs to play and keep playing and keep playing
and getting more reps. The problem for the Bears is,
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and you know, we don't even know fully who's going
to be making those decisions in April, But the problem
for the Bears is now, it's like, do we stick
with justin Fields going into a contract year and make
a decision on a fifty year option, or do we
start that rookie contract clock over again with a guy
who you know might be a once in every few
years prospecting Caleb Williams or another guy who is seen
(24:56):
as a really really good prospect in Drake May. That's
what he's up against. I do think he's getting better.
They're encouraged with certain things from the other night, even
like where he did a good job escaping, he did
a good job handling the rush, he did a good
job with his protections, all that different stuff. He's getting
better in so many ways. I just don't know that
it's happening at a fast enough paste to ward up
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what could be coming. And so long as the Panther's
pick remains at the top of.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
The draft order, Albert I wanted to ask you about
the New England Patriots. We're just talking about mac Jones
not taking reps. We I think spoke to you last week.
You talked about the yips and all that. As far
as this week goes, is it probably gonna be Zappi
and Cunningham who are splitting the reps or plan for
the Patriots.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's trending towards for Bailey Zappy
being the starting quarterback. The question then becomes whether or
not you dress Mac. And you know, I would say
if the idea here is to shut Mac down for
a few weeks, which I think is certainly in play
and part of the decision making here, then I don't
know what the point is in dressing him because you
(25:59):
see these You've seen teams make the mistake in the past,
right where it's like, okay, like even with like Jack
Wilson big picture be Aaron Rodgers situation, it's like, okay,
like we'd like the kid to sit down and get
to you know, get a reset and get a chance
to kind of watch and learn and and do those things,
and then you know, the starter gets hurting boom during
the game again. So you know, my guests would be
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it'll be either Will Greer Mali Cunningham as a backup
and Bailey's Abby as a starter on Sunday. I mean, look, Brady,
they benched the kid four times now, you know, in
a single year. So it's just you know, I I
don't know where you go from here if there's not
a real consequence towards for for for for for all
the things that got him benched over those first four games,
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and and then again, if you're gonna do that and
you're gonna shut them down, you're gonna give them that reset.
I think it does make sense not to dress them
on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
He's Albert Breers, senior NFL reporter and lead content strategists
at the mm QB, and can get them on Twitter
at Albert Breer. And they've got a big hockey tournament
this week at him Vermont that they're already getting fired
up for. All right, let's drop the gloves and make
it happen.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
We got I gotta get.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
That raady that audio.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Albert, thanks so much, man, we appreciate against career family.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Yeah, thanks guys, travel Hybreers save travels.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yeah, all right, thank you. It's there. He is are
I mean, we get a side of Albert Breer that
no one gets to tell you that.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
So was she yelling at the kid, Well, she wasn't yelling.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
As aggressive yelling at the kid, yeah, child, she.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Was just making a point that you know, he didn't
need to talk the way man, it's the way. Well,
he's got a negative approach. You know, it's just you know,
it's a negative approach, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Because did did did the kid curse? Because I heard
her say, don't say.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
That, yeah, don't say that or don't talk like that.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Because I was. I mean, we had a lot of
things dumped on this show.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
They're looking at her like this right now. Brears, Hey,
he's looking at his wife right now like they're listening
to the radio right now. He's looking at her like
you say, what you did?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
You imagine we had hit the dump button because Albert
Brears child cursed on the air. All right, so we
do have the the clip from the Albert Breer interview.
Let's take a listen to what happened again.
Speaker 7 (28:22):
Yeah, I think it's certainly been something.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
Okay, oh.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Okay, hey, you know what Hey, but little man, little
man hell his ground, you know.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
You know, you know what happened That switched on those
bluetooth she was getting in the car, turns the car
off because he's sitting on the front porch, right.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
It switched onto the bluetooth. That's what we got, man.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Well listen what more?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
What more?
Speaker 5 (28:55):
What more?
Speaker 7 (28:56):
Yeah, I think it's certainly been something okaya.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Oh wow, Hey, she's laying the law down though.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I'm down with little man. A little man took it
like a chap. Okay, I got it.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
That's my wife every day to my son, accepted.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Was that him responding?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:17):
I was okay, what we're time? What we're time?
Speaker 7 (29:19):
Yeah? I think it's certainly been something okay.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Oh oh got yeah, yeah, because almost exact same I got,
I got it, I got this relaxed, all right, So
COVID it is two pros.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Hey, mom's out there, y'all got a chill man, especially
when your kids about to go play in a hockey tournament.
Let that man be a little zesty, you know.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
What I mean?
Speaker 6 (29:44):
I want you do whatever you got to do, all right?
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I want now you're right?
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Now, you're right. I take that. You do what you
got You're right. I take that back.
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Speaker 5 (30:03):
You know what I was.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Thinking, do you guys?
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Would you guys be claustrophobic in one of those astronauts suits?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Oh I think we should try. I think all of
the outrageous comments that we'd be making, we should start
trying them and then then using that as content grabs
and then making it out there. Maybe I don't think
I would. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
I mean, the old school ones looked like a lot bigger.
Now I feel like they have like sleek ones, you know,
like they'd be making space like going to space look cool,
like almost like Man, I'm gonna go out to the
dinner and now I'm gonna put on my Space outfit.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
You know, I've always wondered, how do you go to
the restroom in space?
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Oh dude, you go in your pants? Man? Are you
sure they got like it was like a cathoter or
something like hooked up to you.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I mean I would have to, like, but if he's
the problem is.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Like you can't it obviously floats.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
That's what I'm saying. You can't like you're not commoting it.
You know, Yeah, I think you hook up to like
a cathoter or something. O.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
That be my guess.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
What's the question.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Let's go live to our I've taken a crap in
space inside, ioway say for the latest, I have not,
but I wish I had or will at some point
in my life.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I don't know, just for experience of it.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I have another smell worse.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
I said, you have no wind, like like you can't
you're always downwind in essence, like it's just gonna sit there.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
And if there's no gravity, then doesn't the stench just
sit there anywhere?
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I don't think like a fan. I don't think it is.
Let's let's pivot to this question I have for you guys.
Speaker 10 (31:30):
Would you feel claustrophobic in one of those old school
diving suits from like the eighteen nineties, the same thing,
but it's heavy.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
It's got the heavy the glass, and it's got the
bars on it like it's trying to keep intruders out
from you.
Speaker 10 (31:45):
It's got like the one air pipe that they got,
the tube that they got to make sure is never crinkled.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Yeah, always crinkled always, and then you're like cut off.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
It's weighs like a thousand pounds. I would rather be
trapped in space than in the water. The water, yeah,
the water terrifies me.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I mean you could swim a little bit though, right.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah, a tiny bit, but I but do just imagine
if you had to swim to the surface from something
that took place and you could see the surface, but
you saw that it was really really far away. I
don't know which one would be worse, seeing the surface
from underwater or seeing the surface from the air.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
I'll say this much, it's.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Gonna take you a hell of a lot more time
to get down from space.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
If you're like anymore.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
It's like you, guys, remember that dude that was on
the team, like red Bull, that jumped from like yeah,
entered almost yeah, and he jumped out of the air
a higher balloon. How did you kill by the way
he made it? It got a little sideways though, Yeah,
made it.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Though he did like pass out or something. Yeah, that's scary.
Speaker 10 (32:46):
I think he's I think he started to like go
and like and spiral a little bit, but he made it.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
The other thing to like space food, astronaut food, there's
no way that stuff's healthy a way.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah, I mean they're not. They're not eating the real
pro They usually give you the stuff at Epcot Center
at Disney World like itases Yeah, it's like, man, this
tastes like s man, Like what is this? Like you're
trying to encourage me to be an astronaut, and this
is the food you.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Will It's like if you get something like remember.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
That story we did different.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
There was that story we did where the woman found
the woman found a McDonald's hamburger that had been sitting
in her closet for like for like twelve years. Like
I imagine astronaut food's got to stay preserved in that environment.
There's no way that it's healthy. There's got to be
some real bad stuff, but there's no oxygen.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
So what it just like actually get like expired sooner.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I mean, but like the whole thing space is fake anyway,
So I just anyway station about you know, stuff that
doesn't really exist.
Speaker 10 (33:54):
You know, when people come back from outer space, they're
muscles of astropheed because there's no gravity.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
So they come back there all week, they get out and.
Speaker 10 (34:00):
They're like they're like not as all right, Jonas tell people,
I'm an astronaut.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I mean that's what they say, killed you, right, gravity? Gravity?
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Did someone say that about Mac Jones? He want space?
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Speaker 3 (34:34):
The way tire buying should be Mac and dogs.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
So, so Brady, tell me what this means when you
read the details on this that mac Jones didn't throw
it practice yesterday during the at least the portion of
practice made available to the media, but instead he watched
Bailey Zappy and Malie Cunningham throw during that session. And
(34:58):
he look, Albert, who we're going to catch up with
here hearing about you know, fifteen twenty minutes from now.
He spoke yesterday that there's people there that think Mac
Jones has the yips. It feels like we're watching this
guy's NFL career evaporate.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Because of the situation New England.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I kind of I feel bad for him, I really do.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
I do too.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
I mean, it seems like from his rookie year to now,
he's kind of deteriorated.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
What I see is a few things.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
He's lost all confidence and that's a scary thing. Like
I worry for Bryce Young as well. When you get
to any NFL team, the well one thing and I actually,
and it sounds like so easy to simplify issues with
quarterbacks and say this, but you are throwing footballs long
before the intended target is getting to that spot or
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where he's supposed to be. When your livelihood is literally
based on that every time you throw the football, When
your livelihood is based on every single decision you.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Make, and it's under or a microscope, you have.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
To be so confident in your decision making and so
decisive with the way you go about playing in order
to be successful. Like you look at the all time greats.
They don't play the game with any hesitation. They just
play and it's like one fluid, beautiful thing to watch,
(36:23):
right Like watch Rogers player, watch Brady or Manning or
you know far for whoever, what the greats now We've
got Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
They just play. When you notice guys who are.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
Hesitant, they're like double clutching, they're throwing balls and it
just doesn't come out of their finger quite right because
they you can tell they're not confident in that throw.
And it's got to the point now where I think
because of all the adversity, everything that's been said about
everything he's gone through, he's lost a lot of confidence
in his.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Ability to be the quarterback that he can be. And
there's other quarterbacks who fall into that category.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
Like this is a young man that I remember meeting
at an event in both when under armour. He was
a confident, super smart, super accurate young man. I mean,
highly highly, highly competitive. And this is amongst you know,
Trevor Lawrence and some others that were there and like
somewhere along the way, obviously, since he's gotten in the NFL,
with everything he's been through, the adversity now has has
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struck in a core with his ability to.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
Be confident in the way he's playing. So you know,
is that the yips were I mean only.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
He would know, only they would know the people in
the you know, behind closed doors. But you could see
that right now in the decision making, the way he's playing,
like he doesn't feel confident about anything that he's doing
right now, and rightfully so based on last year and
the play calling situation, and based on this year and
how things have gone and them not having you know,
many easy layups or throws for him, and everything is
(37:50):
strained and tough, so that I would say that's like
the singular thing that stands out. But if he's not
throwing right now, they're clearly maybe kicking the tires. Either Bailey'
zappy starting, Relie Cunningham playing, or maybe a combination of both.
And there's a package from Millie Cunningham because he's more
of a dual threat style quarterback that can come in
and change up how defense plays you.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
So it's it's I mean, it's.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
Never a good sign if you've got a guy who's
been starting is not out there throwing any balls us him.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Case close there. It is verdict is in the jury
came back, the judge render the decision, the verdict and
it is that's correct, you will not play.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
It feels worse than the Zach Wilson situation.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
It's it seems more decisive than the Zach Wilson situation.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
The tough thing is is mac Jones was a like
ready built NFL quarterback. Right when you looked at what
he was asked to do at Bama and you looked
at his skill set and where he excelled, it was
this thought of, hey, he's playing at the highest.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
Level in college.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
He's playing at a really high level of the way is
playing and he can handle all of what's going to
be put on his plate.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
And I thought his rookie year he did that to
some degree.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
And the tough part is is like it's trying to
figure out, like where everything.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Went wrong, you know, as far as where we've gotten
in the past.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
You know, three years, how you go from a guy
who's sixty eight percent completion percentage, throwing twenty two touchdowns
the thirteen steps almost a two to one ratio and
for thirty eight hundred yards, whereas now everything has been
kind of on a decline since then.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Look, he takes the blame for it, but honestly, it's
not all him.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
The whole team has deteriorated. Right, That's the thing about it.
Like he can take the blame forward, or he will
take the blame forward, but the whole team has deteriorated.
Can I ask you guys.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
A question without you looking.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
You gotta have a quick answer on this, Okay, name
the leading receiver for the New England Patriots right now?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
No, really, you don't know that.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Who is it?
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Jonas? You really are looking.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
At you right now, looking at John He's giant, But
go ahead, Namo, Juju Smith Schuster.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
No to Mario Douglas.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Oh yeah, I don't even know who that is.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
And again he's he's a first year player.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
You know, yeah, I mean they're high on him.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
They yeah, no, you look, he's I believe it was
draft of the sixth round this year. He's got a
lot of bursting speed five eight, about one hundred and
ninety pounds, right, But he's he can separate. But that's
that's kind of my point is like when he first
got there, you felt a little more confident in who
he was throwing to and the weapons that they had,
and it's just there's not much help. And actually, if
you will go back and look at the two interceptions,
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look at who he's targeting, they're.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Constantly trying to get the ball to Tomorrio Douglas. It's
a tough spot.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
Though, when you're trying to get the ball to a
rookie and you know, younger inexperience.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
But it does come back to what you were saying though, Q,
in terms of losing that confidence. You could put Randy Moss,
t O and and Jerry Rice out there and he's
still going to have trouble getting the ball to those guys,
and here's the reason Why's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
I actually would like to see what this.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Here's the reason why, because if you are being judged,
it actually would probably put that much more pressure on
you to be able to deliver it if you had
those guys out there. And with that being said, us
as defenders, when we're doing our weekly scouting report, we
know exactly who those guys are that you're talking about.
We know that you're going to take it, even if
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they are super super good targets that they have. We
know exactly if if the quarterback coming into the game
is one of those Patrick Mahomes or Brett Farrs that
he is going to throw the ball. He has no conscience,
he doesn't care, he's going to go after it, and everybody,
like you said, they praise him for that. Like it's
(41:52):
like we're in the we're in the meeting room watching
were like, man, dude is unconscious and how he goes
after it. But we also know the guys that you're like, Yeah,
this guy's playing for his job. This guy has had
a bad season. He's continuing to try to fight his
way out of out of the slump that he's in.
We take those things in the consideration because it's that
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extra moment in time you don't get. You don't get,
but so much time in the league, you get so
much time, and that equals a sack of fumble, a
broken up play. It never really unless you get like
the Mike Vicks and the guys that can actually kind
of prolong the play, like how Ben was in his prime.
(42:37):
If you can get guys who can extend to play,
like even right now today of Patrick Mahomes, those guys
tend to be able to make great decisions even when
the play breaks down. It's almost a part of the
play design. You come into the game knowing who those
quarterbacks are. The list of guys is very short on
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who can do that. So the rest stuff and we're like, yep,
this is a five sack game, this is a six
sack game. Yeah, this is a two to three interception game.
We know that coming in because you don't get that
amount of time, and that's what we're banking on. When
we're doing our film review. You're trying to gain every
bit of a confidence or or you know, competitive edge
(43:20):
that you possibly can, and little things like this lineman
he's been getting beat off the ball for you know,
all season, Like if you do this, if you shift,
he's going to jump like he's going to we can
get an off sides. We can draw them off sides
on this guy. You make book on what guys are
struggling with on the other.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
Side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I'll bet Mac Jones hates John Lynch's guts because John
Lynch was the guy who wanted Trey Lance and Kyle
Shanahan was the guy who wanted mac Jones. And just
think about how much different his NFL life would be
if he was in San Fran right now. Damn, that's
brutal and the set is brock party.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
But then again, it didn't work out for Trey Lance
and San Francisco either though, so that's kind of not fair.
He's not He's not even in San fran anymore. He
did it, ain't like he burnt the world down, set
it on fire, got opportunities.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
I mean, he got banged up, and yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Who's had the better career so far, Mac Jones or
or or See Like, I think that's a harsh one.
I mean he might have done much better with I mean,
there you go. So I didn't even know that.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
I know y'all didn't. That's all. I'm trying to put
you up on some game. Yeah yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Got a real I got it right, Nine to eleven Pacific,
Noone to two Eastern, every Saturday.
Speaker 6 (44:47):
I'm just saying, like, I think it's just an interesting
case study because unfortunately everything outside around him and LaVar
you just said this like it's kind of deteriorated, And
I think that's deteriorated his ability as a player, but
also is confidence in his own play and then how
he can perform out there.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yes, the twenty one day window has opened up. Aaron Rodgers, Baby,
let's go, come on Rogers twenty one. He is back
in some capacity, back to some capacity. Now we don't
know whether or not this actually means he's gonna play.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
He's proud of Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Robert Sala did speak about it.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Back it on the field.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Rogers did return to practice. He was cleared for.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
What is crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Functional football activity, but not contact yet. So this twenty
one day window, there's a target date that's been thrown
out there. Christmas Eve against the Washington Commandos A has
been a target date that Rogers, I think has talked
about before. But here was Robert Sala speaking with the
media yesterday about the return of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Guys coming off they're usually not ready to play football.
There's still a little bit of a health concern there,
and so you know, you use these twenty one day
windows to see where they're at. So we're so far
away from that. But like I said, the mindset for
this is more of a progression in his rehab and
like I said, he's been cleared for functional football activity,
he's not cleared to fully play football. And you know
(01:23):
it's so it's like I said, part of his rehab progression.
He's old school in the sense that he is driven.
Is there motivation to be the first ever do it?
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
That's okay.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
That is why.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
It's a mentality that I think young guys should be
able to grasp to. That he loves this organization, he
wants to be with his teammates, he wants to be here.
I think he's sacrificed so much already for the organization
and himself and his teammates, and he's doing it again.
I think it's a testament to who he is.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
So they don't love y'all if they don't set the
hell up.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
Well, I will say this man, he didn't. He didn't
need to try to come back this fast. I mean
there is something too. I think his desire to want
to play in New York improve doubters wrong. I mean,
I think the biggest concern is, you know, the only
other player to come back, you know, within like a
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six month period, right would have been Cam Akers. I
think Aaron's gonna come back one hundred days sooner than
Cam Akers who came back this season.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
And the concern is what happened to Cam Akers.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
He retore his achilles, So that's that's my big time
concern for Aaron Rodgers is if he's able to come
back and Christmas Eve become that Christmas gift that Jets
fans were hoping for this season. It's remarkable, maybe the
greatest accomplishment for a guy who's won MVP's a super
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Bowl to be able to defy like logic and have
this miraculous recovery. But like, I just get concerned long
term at forty years old, like, is he even at
a greater risk now reinsuring it putting himself in that position,
Like that's gotta be a huge, huge weight, And then
doesn't matter if they're still in the hunt for the
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playoffs or nots Aaron Rodgers, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I honestly don't know if it does. Maybe it does
to a degree.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
But maybe he just wants to come back and play,
try to build momentu into Like heading into twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Aaron Rodgers has been a lightning rod of attention, and
he's great at it. He's great at keeping people down
in and focused in on him. This is nothing even
with Robert Salah, He's got him drinking the kool leg
Even Robert Salah is sold on the fact of giving
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Aaron Rodgers the amount of attention that Aaron Rodgers has
always commanded. He's just brilliant not keeping people's attention. Man,
that man ain't coming back and playing. He's not gonna
come back and play. He's not gonna play.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You don't think so. Now, no place of wager on
that I think he's coming back. Place the wager I
think this is. This would be a place the wager
giant middle finger to medicine and all the criticism he's gotten. Yeah,
what I'm trying to say now, I don't I don't want.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And that is something that he has made very strong
references to to doing things the way that he does them.
But it's just for conversation sakes. It's s and giggles like.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I don't know, man, I think not only will he
do it, I wouldn't be surprised if.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
He marched, guys, if he marched out on the field
and wrote Fauci on his cleat.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I swear, I swear to God, it's a.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Great it's a great pool. All I'll say is is
if you guys are right, then I'll give you that
that prop at that moment in time. But until that
moment happens, there's no way in hell I'm sitting there
thinking that just because it's Aaron Rodgers, he's going to
defy the laws of science and different methods.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Though it wasn't what they're saying. They were using like
the sound of dolphins mating or something.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, that's what they said, and orcas taking taking number
two's yeah what yeahducing it up.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
I legitimately heard. I legitimately heard the whole dolphins thing.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, I don't know orcas are dolphins there there, cousin,
but if you had.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And I can understand having doubts about it, But I mean,
we're less than three months since it's happened.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Sounds by the way, Yeah, yeah, that feels better.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
It was like.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Sounds like that's like that's probably a big crap to
by the way, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I don't want to think about it.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
That vacation swimming that ocean, like you forget there's a
lot of fish on the path.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
You're having a kid every time.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Hey, so back there you go into the water, You're.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Like, oh that was there was an orca here is
that kryptonite? But with Aaron Rodgers, my whole idea of
this is to keep people talking. He is now once
again and he's never really gone away. Zach Wilson did
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an excellent job by playing just well enough but bad
enough where he stole the headlines. He became more of
the headlines of the New York Jets. Aaron Rodgers has
taken it back and now he is giving you know
that sacrifice that Robert Salas talking about. He's taking the
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anger and the disappointment of Jets fans and he's refocusing
their attention onto something positive. He's moving the goalposts. Well,
give give them credit, but he's not coming back. There's
a difference. There's a different than seven.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I get to save this. If he does come back here, Oh.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I love it. It will sound amazing.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
It will, but you will not love it because you
do not like admitting this sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I don't like admitting when I'm wrong. I really don't wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
But you you don't think that the fact that he's
even back at this point would cause some reservations for
you to be so bold.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I think that that's a phenomenal that he's back and
he's throwing the ball at this point and has been
cleared to do different activities.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Yeah, and by the way, just so people understand, at
this point, you know, when you have the twenty one
day window opened, you're cleared to practice now and you
don't count against the roster, which is the key thing.
So for the next three weeks, these next three games,
you know, he could still be out there ramping himself up,
as Robert Saliz said from a rehab standpoint, And really
it's it's the intensity, right, and LaVar, you suffer this injury.
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Like what you're trying to do anytime you have an
injury is continually build up the intensity of your body's
going to endure to prepare it for a game, because
there's nothing like a game. And that's why it's such
a big risk, is practice. Speed is one thing.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
There is one thing, and that's what I was getting to.
So I'm glad you went there. So there you go.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Because and then I think more than that, I mean
that life field has become like sant Anina has it hot.
I mean, I'm just saying that turf has.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Dudes in the body bag.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
I mean the caps, Okay, Jonas, I know you how
many have we had this year on that turf?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Three majors?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
At least three major There is just one what was
the one that just Jalen Phillips that just took place?
Speaker 7 (08:42):
You know?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Then there was for sure another one that to that
also happened. And and this is after they reportedly switched
out the turf in the off season, right, so there's
just a bad I don't look, it could be the
curse of Jimmy Hoffa.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
That has to be.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
That field, by the way, that is that is a
great all it is is the NFL's equivalent to Santa Anita.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
But q q's point, I mean, I'm I'm going to
leave to leave the white the white sheets alone not
just good for me people like me to stay away from.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
You had to go there.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
On black on topic, uh, beautiful place with no space
heater that morning.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I find it to be very curious that they would say,
you guys were right, Yeah, we were there. It was
dead wondering. I mean, I mean it was three in
the morning. It was three in the morning. I'm saying
it was dead as.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
There was no one there. That is so well done.
That is so well done.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Hey, the commanders though, like you're bringing back So basically
you're saying now that they've gotten rid of a sweat
and and uh and young that's their last game of
the season.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
How good this sweat look?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It looks pretty good making a difference for Chicago. Listen,
if you're going to bring that man back. As Q
has mentioned, game reps cannot be simulated in any other
form fashion, any other place other than on the game
field on game day. So he's not going to know
what his body is. True, he knows he's not going
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to get hit in practice.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
He knows that Rodney Pete ruptured both his achilles and
he told me yesterday that at about four to five
months he started to feel a little bit comfortable. He
could stand up on his toes, he could do it.
He said, he wasn't ready to go, Like, there's just
you're you're not ready to go. But I just wonder
this surgery being But again, that's a long time ago. Yeah,
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that's a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
But the bottom line is your body is going to
react differently. When you see a three hundred pound grown
ass mammal come in your way during the course of
a game that is allowed to hit you if they
get there. The movement you're gonna make, even before you
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get hit, might be the most detrimental movements that you make,
not even the hit itself, but the body that your
your mind and what it's going to try to force
your body to do, like woo s. Don't want that,
don't want to get that hit. Let's get rid of
the ball, whatever it is, whatever in that moment your
body's doing. What you're not doing is thinking about the
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damage you're doing to yourself when you make those movements.
If you're not prepared to do that.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Here's what I know.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
We not touch football.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
We talked about him being comeback player of the Year
earlier in the week.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
And if he plays one play and he goes down
in a heap of s, he will get Comeback Player
of the Year.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
He was ten to one a couple of days ago.
According to DraftKings, is down to eight to one.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Move better get that money in.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
The problem is Deamar Hamblin was at minus one seventy five.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
He's at a minus two to ten.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Now, so did he start the season like minus three fifty?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, well, because everyone just assumed may the guy almost died,
you know, I mean if he's on the selection committee
of that, when did you place a bet when you
have somebody else place the bet?
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Yes, I think that's considered ethical.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
But yes, of course it's ethical to do that. Yeah,
I mean that's kind of wild. Yeah, that's why they
put a limit on I'm gonna tell.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
My cousin's cousin, cousins cousin's cousin to place that bet.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
That's why they put limits on the prop bets for
the Super Bowl because all the people who are there
the week of listening to the rehearsal of the anthem,
they do exactly how.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
And you got some scubback security guard looking in to
see what the color of the gatorade is. We can
text his buddy and be like.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Right, yeah, you think he's over there playing pocket pool. Meanwhile,
he's just putting in a bet on his phone.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Moving.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
That's that's that's what that's moving. He was just trying
to just distract people from how bad the Chargers are.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
So we're off and running.
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and listen to ab just I mean, welcome to the
vent tent. Okay, So anything you want to get off here,
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
I don't know my timing coming in here. I think
the conversation is going in interesting directions before any jumped in.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, so your your thoughts all.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Murrah Carey's baby daddy, Albert, I mean, honest, be honest,
Just be honest for one second.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
I mean I don't think that question man's comments.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
There you go, there you go, because you would be
all the way in. I mean that's all right. You know,
I'll take it for you.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
I mean, I agree with you. It'll probably be a
good business.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I feelings too, Albert.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
We uh were five days removed from the game and
the classic between Ohio State and Michigan. How do you
feel about your buck?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Guys?
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Well, not great, but you know it was you know what,
like I I like, I'm The way I deal with
these things is I dive into everything and I wind
up reading everything in the days after and watching things
and all of that different stuff. So it's probably not
the healthiest thing. But you know one thing that struck me.
I'd be interested to hear Brady's opinion on this because
it's kind of like, you know, he was there. I like,
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it's like.
Speaker 9 (15:40):
It kind of crystallized to me, like over the last
couple of days that I really feel like Ohio State,
like the players, the coaches is I almost like they
went out there to prove something, where Michigan went out.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
There to win a game. And I think in a
lot of ways, Michigan handled that game the way an
NFL team would, where when the true freshman goes in
the game, they's got right at him for a touchdown.
When the when there an injury at safety, they run
at the safety t when there's you know, linebackers who's
danged up, they're throwing at the linebackers with the tight
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end so like, and then they go in the four
minute offense at the end of the game. I just
think like Michigan won that game on the margins, and
they won that game in like a very NFL way,
like the NFL that the staff handled that game in
a very NFL way and won it situationally, where you know,
it just sort of felt like Ohio State again, Like
it kind of like they went out there was something
(16:34):
to prove, like we're the better team and didn't own
the situation the way the Michigan did.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's one way of looking
at it.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
I tend to think that the best games in college football,
the best teams, they end up playing in a style
where the situations do matter, you know, like they do
in the NFL, because the margins are so slim. You know,
That's that's what you kind of don't get throughout the
course of the regular season besides two or three games
usually right, and this is one of them where I
thought Sharon More went in with a game plan where
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he was aggressive on fourth down. He was more creative
with the play calling, you know, coming out of halftime
alex Orgy and the Wildcat that was kind of like,
oh what are you doing here? It was effective to
moving the football. The half back pass kind of come
at a better time. Like all that creativity, the gutsiness
to go for the fourth downs and when they did
to kind of control the game. You just didn't have
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that from Ohio State, and I don't know why because
you really based on how the past two years have
gone and obviously didn't play in the COVID year, It's
like you could have done that.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
You know.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
I hate to say it, but like I you know,
when I was in school there, John Cooper was the
coach you were growing up in Columbus in the nineties, Brady,
and I just remember like it kind of felt like
Coop coached those games with the way that the world
led shoulders, you know what I mean. And I don't
want to put I don't want to say Ryan's there yet,
but like it did feel like that staff had a
weight on it, you know, as a coach in that game,
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and that was just disappointing because it felt the same
way last year. And then after that it felt like
that weight came off of them when they coached against Georgia,
you know, and.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Well because they had a shot up winning the national championship,
like the then the game doesn't seem quite as significant.
If they take care of business win at all, they'll
always be that, well, we lost that one, but we
won a national championship, right. I think the most interesting
thing about the pressure that's on Ryan Day because of
the last three years versus Michigan is John Cooper was
two ten and one. I mean, he got thirteen cracks
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at it, whereas we're talking about a coach in Ryan
Day's only lost what six games?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Yeah, and like people.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Were already ready to move on, And it's just it's
crazy how impatient we've gotten as a fan base society.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
I think it's sad, but it's also like what Ryan
Day inherited versus what John Cooper inherited, you know what
I mean. I think that's part of it too, you know.
And I do think there was that feeling that that
nineteen team was national championship caliber team. Now you had,
you know, the Clemson game, and they lose a Clemson
game in LSU. Maybe nobody was seed him that year.
And then the next year, you know, you're right there,
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and then you lose like a half dozen starters because
of COVID going into the title game. So and you know,
Tray Surmon breaks his collar going on the first play
of the game. So I don't know, I mean, I
feel like, if you're this good, you're going to keep
getting cracks at it. You're going to eventually break through.
It took Jim harbout seven years to the Ohio State.
You know, Davos. Davos swinging was seen a certain way
for what seventy eight nine years. And I feel like
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Michigan and Clemson are two schools that you know that the.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Patients that those two schools exhibited with.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
The coaches, even when the heat was on, wound up
paying off. And maybe that'll be the case here too.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
One last thing I'm starting to take out all this
time time about this game, But the only thing I'd
saying defense of of Earl Bruce is he only had
one season.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Where he won less than nine games.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
You know, you go back to the John Cooper, it
was a slow build, like it took time and especially
in the beginning for him to kind of get to
where they ultimately got to in the early nineties.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
But like late eighties to the nineties, like it wasn't
it was.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
I mean, I actually thought Earl Bruce had him a
much better and more consistent level, even though you know,
especially through Bowl games and all that, as compared to Cooper.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
I think he'd agree that the Cooper like modernized the
recruiting there, Like.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
He nationalized the recruit you know, David Boston wasn't you know,
he really did bring it on a national scale where
you had, you know, guys like Eddie George and David
Boston and that.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yeah, there's so many. Mike Wiley, that's right, that's right,
he was number five.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, Ricky Dudley, can I can I ask you and
just you know, because we can transition too for me
to to the league. Aaron Rodgers. It's it's he continues
to find ways to dominate the minds and the hearts
of fans and media. How how serious is this return ab.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
It's it's serious. And they've been you know, they've been
talking about like this for a while, and I know,
you know, the Jets people have been very very careful
in the way they've addressed it, and they never but
they never shut the door, you know. And in September
when all of this sounded crazy, you know what you
would hear from them as well, you know, like it's
not impossible and even like I can remember when it was,
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you know, when we were there in I mean now
I'm trying to think, but when we were sitting there
in you know, in in in like in right, around Halloween.
I remember talking to somebody there and it was like, okay,
so this could be like first second week of January,
and I got back like, well, you know, it might
be faster than that. So there's always been kind of
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like this very cautious undercurrent of optimism on where he
is physically. And now I think you're seeing that start
to you know, you're starting to see the reasoning for
it now. I don't know, like as far as like
the innovative medical techniques that have been used here, all
that different stuff, but you know, I think it certainly
puts them. You know, it's certainly been something.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Okay, what the hell is happening.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
This time? So this time, guys, this time, can you
hear me?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Yeah? Yeah, everyone, this time?
Speaker 7 (22:20):
So this time, my wife tied in the car and
you might have heard her, and she's got her mouth
wide open right now, and my kid is laughing always
my kid.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Hi, Brier family, how are we doing this morning?
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Hope you had a wonderful thing.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
That's a brand, she said.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
They say, don't you mess with her?
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Do you? Guys? Do? You guys know what just happened?
But the car I'm sitting on the porch and the uh,
it's all right, sorry, man, you're Good's great. I see
I didn't even get to hear that. You guys got
to hear that.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
You know what's great is my.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
Three year old, my nine year old, my nine year old.
We're driving him up to a hockey tournament. He is
a hockey tournament this weekend in Vermont, and so this
is like kind of like a hectic day for him.
He's only going to go to school for a couple
of hours. And uh, yeah, so I guess he's been
a little uh he's been a little loud.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, what my wife calls it, honorey was he's been
a little honoring.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
My three year old came in two days ago and
I'd hit the mute button, try to you know, calmer
down in the morning.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Once.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
I was glad it didn't make air, but part of
me wanted it to make air, just because I was like,
this actually could be great radio.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
I try to talk down a three year old how
to get back to bed?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
So, Albert, I have a question for you. Uh A
former Ohio State buck guy one Justin Fields, is his
future in Chicago already determined? Or is he legitimately playing
for the right to be the Bears quarterback of the future.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
The rest of the way, well, he doesn't have to
take control over it. Like I think it's interesting if
you like Kyler murray situation in Arizona, right where he
can legitimately play the team out of the position to
draft his replacements, Justin Field doesn't have that same level
of control because the Bears have the Panthers stick and
as long as the Panthers are the worst team in
the league, this is going to come down to Justin
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Fields versus Caleb Williams, Justin Fields versus Drake may That's
sort of where they are, and it's probably where they're
going to be at the end of the year. And
that's why I think this is really an uphill client
for him. Now. I think he's incrementally getting better. I
think the people who've coached him would tell you he
just needs to play and keep playing and keep playing
and getting more reps. The problem for the Bears is,
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and you know, we don't even know fully who's going
to be making those decisions in April, But the problem
for the Bears is now, it's like, do we stick
with justin Fields going into a contract year and make
a decision on a fifty year option, or do we
start that rookie contract clock over again with a guy
who you know might be a once in every few
years prospecting Caleb Williams or another guy who is seen
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as a really really good prospect in Drake May. That's
what he's up against. I do think he's getting better.
They're encouraged with certain things from the other night, even
like where he did a good job escaping, he did
a good job handling the rush, he did a good
job with his protections, all that different stuff. He's getting
better in so many ways. I just don't know that
it's happening at a fast enough paste to ward up
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what could be coming. And so long as the Panther's
pick remains at the top of.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
The draft order, Albert I wanted to ask you about
the New England Patriots. We're just talking about mac Jones
not taking reps. We I think spoke to you last week.
You talked about the yips and all that. As far
as this week goes, is it probably gonna be Zappi
and Cunningham who are splitting the reps or plan for
the Patriots.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's trending towards for Bailey Zappy
being the starting quarterback. The question then becomes whether or
not you dress Mac. And you know, I would say
if the idea here is to shut Mac down for
a few weeks, which I think is certainly in play
and part of the decision making here, then I don't
know what the point is in dressing him because you
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see these You've seen teams make the mistake in the past,
right where it's like, okay, like even with like Jack
Wilson big picture be Aaron Rodgers situation, it's like, okay,
like we'd like the kid to sit down and get
to you know, get a reset and get a chance
to kind of watch and learn and and do those things,
and then you know, the starter gets hurting boom during
the game again. So you know, my guests would be
(26:21):
it'll be either Will Greer Mali Cunningham as a backup
and Bailey's Abby as a starter on Sunday. I mean, look, Brady,
they benched the kid four times now, you know, in
a single year. So it's just you know, I I
don't know where you go from here if there's not
a real consequence towards for for for for for all
the things that got him benched over those first four games,
(26:43):
and and then again, if you're gonna do that and
you're gonna shut them down, you're gonna give them that reset.
I think it does make sense not to dress them
on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
He's Albert Breers, senior NFL reporter and lead content strategists
at the mm QB, and can get them on Twitter
at Albert Breer. And they've got a big hockey tournament
this week at him Vermont that they're already getting fired
up for. All right, let's drop the gloves and make
it happen.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
We got I gotta get.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
That raady that audio.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Albert, thanks so much, man, we appreciate against career family.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Yeah, thanks guys, travel Hybreers save travels.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yeah, all right, thank you. It's there. He is are
I mean, we get a side of Albert Breer that
no one gets to tell you that.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
So was she yelling at the kid, Well, she wasn't yelling.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
As aggressive yelling at the kid, yeah, child, she.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Was just making a point that you know, he didn't
need to talk the way man, it's the way. Well,
he's got a negative approach. You know, it's just you know,
it's a negative approach, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Because did did did the kid curse? Because I heard
her say, don't say.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
That, yeah, don't say that or don't talk like that.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Because I was. I mean, we had a lot of
things dumped on this show.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
They're looking at her like this right now. Brears, Hey,
he's looking at his wife right now like they're listening
to the radio right now. He's looking at her like
you say, what you did?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
You imagine we had hit the dump button because Albert
Brears child cursed on the air. All right, so we
do have the the clip from the Albert Breer interview.
Let's take a listen to what happened again.
Speaker 7 (28:22):
Yeah, I think it's certainly been something.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
Okay, oh.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Okay, hey, you know what Hey, but little man, little
man hell his ground, you know.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
You know, you know what happened That switched on those
bluetooth she was getting in the car, turns the car
off because he's sitting on the front porch, right.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
It switched onto the bluetooth. That's what we got, man.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Well listen what more?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
What more?
Speaker 5 (28:55):
What more?
Speaker 7 (28:56):
Yeah, I think it's certainly been something okaya.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Oh wow, Hey, she's laying the law down though.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I'm down with little man. A little man took it
like a chap. Okay, I got it.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
That's my wife every day to my son, accepted.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Was that him responding?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:17):
I was okay, what we're time? What we're time?
Speaker 7 (29:19):
Yeah? I think it's certainly been something okay.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Oh oh got yeah, yeah, because almost exact same I got,
I got it, I got this relaxed, all right, So
COVID it is two pros.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Hey, mom's out there, y'all got a chill man, especially
when your kids about to go play in a hockey tournament.
Let that man be a little zesty, you know.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
What I mean?
Speaker 6 (29:44):
I want you do whatever you got to do, all right?
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I want now you're right?
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Now, you're right. I take that. You do what you
got You're right. I take that back.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
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Speaker 5 (30:03):
You know what I was.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Thinking, do you guys?
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Would you guys be claustrophobic in one of those astronauts suits?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Oh I think we should try. I think all of
the outrageous comments that we'd be making, we should start
trying them and then then using that as content grabs
and then making it out there. Maybe I don't think
I would. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
I mean, the old school ones looked like a lot bigger.
Now I feel like they have like sleek ones, you know,
like they'd be making space like going to space look cool,
like almost like Man, I'm gonna go out to the
dinner and now I'm gonna put on my Space outfit.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
You know, I've always wondered, how do you go to
the restroom in space?
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Oh dude, you go in your pants? Man? Are you
sure they got like it was like a cathoter or
something like hooked up to you.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I mean I would have to, like, but if he's
the problem is.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Like you can't it obviously floats.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
That's what I'm saying. You can't like you're not commoting it.
You know, Yeah, I think you hook up to like
a cathoter or something. O.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
That be my guess.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
What's the question.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Let's go live to our I've taken a crap in
space inside, ioway say for the latest, I have not,
but I wish I had or will at some point
in my life.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I don't know, just for experience of it.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I have another smell worse.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
I said, you have no wind, like like you can't
you're always downwind in essence, like it's just gonna sit there.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
And if there's no gravity, then doesn't the stench just
sit there anywhere?
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I don't think like a fan. I don't think it is.
Let's let's pivot to this question I have for you guys.
Speaker 10 (31:30):
Would you feel claustrophobic in one of those old school
diving suits from like the eighteen nineties, the same thing,
but it's heavy.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
It's got the heavy the glass, and it's got the
bars on it like it's trying to keep intruders out
from you.
Speaker 10 (31:45):
It's got like the one air pipe that they got,
the tube that they got to make sure is never crinkled.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Yeah, always crinkled always, and then you're like cut off.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
It's weighs like a thousand pounds. I would rather be
trapped in space than in the water. The water, yeah,
the water terrifies me.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I mean you could swim a little bit though, right.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah, a tiny bit, but I but do just imagine
if you had to swim to the surface from something
that took place and you could see the surface, but
you saw that it was really really far away. I
don't know which one would be worse, seeing the surface
from underwater or seeing the surface from the air.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
I'll say this much, it's.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Gonna take you a hell of a lot more time
to get down from space.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
If you're like anymore.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
It's like you, guys, remember that dude that was on
the team, like red Bull, that jumped from like yeah,
entered almost yeah, and he jumped out of the air
a higher balloon. How did you kill by the way
he made it? It got a little sideways though, Yeah,
made it.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Though he did like pass out or something. Yeah, that's scary.
Speaker 10 (32:46):
I think he's I think he started to like go
and like and spiral a little bit, but he made it.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
The other thing to like space food, astronaut food, there's
no way that stuff's healthy a way.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah, I mean they're not. They're not eating the real
pro They usually give you the stuff at Epcot Center
at Disney World like itases Yeah, it's like, man, this
tastes like s man, Like what is this? Like you're
trying to encourage me to be an astronaut, and this
is the food you.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Will It's like if you get something like remember.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
That story we did different.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
There was that story we did where the woman found
the woman found a McDonald's hamburger that had been sitting
in her closet for like for like twelve years. Like
I imagine astronaut food's got to stay preserved in that environment.
There's no way that it's healthy. There's got to be
some real bad stuff, but there's no oxygen.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
So what it just like actually get like expired sooner.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I mean, but like the whole thing space is fake anyway,
So I just anyway station about you know, stuff that
doesn't really exist.
Speaker 10 (33:54):
You know, when people come back from outer space, they're
muscles of astropheed because there's no gravity.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
So they come back there all week, they get out and.
Speaker 10 (34:00):
They're like they're like not as all right, Jonas tell people,
I'm an astronaut.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I mean that's what they say, killed you, right, gravity? Gravity?
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Did someone say that about Mac Jones? He want space?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
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Speaker 3 (34:34):
The way tire buying should be Mac and dogs.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
So, so Brady, tell me what this means when you
read the details on this that mac Jones didn't throw
it practice yesterday during the at least the portion of
practice made available to the media, but instead he watched
Bailey Zappy and Malie Cunningham throw during that session. And
(34:58):
he look, Albert, who we're going to catch up with
here hearing about you know, fifteen twenty minutes from now.
He spoke yesterday that there's people there that think Mac
Jones has the yips. It feels like we're watching this
guy's NFL career evaporate.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Because of the situation New England.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I kind of I feel bad for him, I really do.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
I do too.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
I mean, it seems like from his rookie year to now,
he's kind of deteriorated.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
What I see is a few things.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
He's lost all confidence and that's a scary thing. Like
I worry for Bryce Young as well. When you get
to any NFL team, the well one thing and I actually,
and it sounds like so easy to simplify issues with
quarterbacks and say this, but you are throwing footballs long
before the intended target is getting to that spot or
(35:48):
where he's supposed to be. When your livelihood is literally
based on that every time you throw the football, When
your livelihood is based on every single decision you.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Make, and it's under or a microscope, you have.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
To be so confident in your decision making and so
decisive with the way you go about playing in order
to be successful. Like you look at the all time greats.
They don't play the game with any hesitation. They just
play and it's like one fluid, beautiful thing to watch,
(36:23):
right Like watch Rogers player, watch Brady or Manning or
you know far for whoever, what the greats now We've
got Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
They just play. When you notice guys who are.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
Hesitant, they're like double clutching, they're throwing balls and it
just doesn't come out of their finger quite right because
they you can tell they're not confident in that throw.
And it's got to the point now where I think
because of all the adversity, everything that's been said about
everything he's gone through, he's lost a lot of confidence
in his.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Ability to be the quarterback that he can be. And
there's other quarterbacks who fall into that category.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
Like this is a young man that I remember meeting
at an event in both when under armour. He was
a confident, super smart, super accurate young man. I mean,
highly highly, highly competitive. And this is amongst you know,
Trevor Lawrence and some others that were there and like
somewhere along the way, obviously, since he's gotten in the NFL,
with everything he's been through, the adversity now has has
(37:23):
struck in a core with his ability to.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
Be confident in the way he's playing. So you know,
is that the yips were I mean only.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
He would know, only they would know the people in
the you know, behind closed doors. But you could see
that right now in the decision making, the way he's playing,
like he doesn't feel confident about anything that he's doing
right now, and rightfully so based on last year and
the play calling situation, and based on this year and
how things have gone and them not having you know,
many easy layups or throws for him, and everything is
(37:50):
strained and tough, so that I would say that's like
the singular thing that stands out. But if he's not
throwing right now, they're clearly maybe kicking the tires. Either Bailey'
zappy starting, Relie Cunningham playing, or maybe a combination of both.
And there's a package from Millie Cunningham because he's more
of a dual threat style quarterback that can come in
and change up how defense plays you.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
So it's it's I mean, it's.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
Never a good sign if you've got a guy who's
been starting is not out there throwing any balls us him.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Case close there. It is verdict is in the jury
came back, the judge render the decision, the verdict and
it is that's correct, you will not play.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
It feels worse than the Zach Wilson situation.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
It's it seems more decisive than the Zach Wilson situation.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
The tough thing is is mac Jones was a like
ready built NFL quarterback. Right when you looked at what
he was asked to do at Bama and you looked
at his skill set and where he excelled, it was
this thought of, hey, he's playing at the highest.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
Level in college.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
He's playing at a really high level of the way is
playing and he can handle all of what's going to
be put on his plate.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
And I thought his rookie year he did that to
some degree.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
And the tough part is is like it's trying to
figure out, like where everything.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Went wrong, you know, as far as where we've gotten
in the past.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
You know, three years, how you go from a guy
who's sixty eight percent completion percentage, throwing twenty two touchdowns
the thirteen steps almost a two to one ratio and
for thirty eight hundred yards, whereas now everything has been
kind of on a decline since then.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Look, he takes the blame for it, but honestly, it's
not all him.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
The whole team has deteriorated. Right, That's the thing about it.
Like he can take the blame forward, or he will
take the blame forward, but the whole team has deteriorated.
Can I ask you guys.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
A question without you looking.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
You gotta have a quick answer on this, Okay, name
the leading receiver for the New England Patriots right now?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
No, really, you don't know that.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Who is it?
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Jonas? You really are looking.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
At you right now, looking at John He's giant, But
go ahead, Namo, Juju Smith Schuster.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
No to Mario Douglas.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Oh yeah, I don't even know who that is.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
And again he's he's a first year player.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
You know, yeah, I mean they're high on him.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
They yeah, no, you look, he's I believe it was
draft of the sixth round this year. He's got a
lot of bursting speed five eight, about one hundred and
ninety pounds, right, But he's he can separate. But that's
that's kind of my point is like when he first
got there, you felt a little more confident in who
he was throwing to and the weapons that they had,
and it's just there's not much help. And actually, if
you will go back and look at the two interceptions,
(40:40):
look at who he's targeting, they're.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Constantly trying to get the ball to Tomorrio Douglas. It's
a tough spot.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
Though, when you're trying to get the ball to a
rookie and you know, younger inexperience.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
But it does come back to what you were saying though, Q,
in terms of losing that confidence. You could put Randy Moss,
t O and and Jerry Rice out there and he's
still going to have trouble getting the ball to those guys,
and here's the reason Why's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
I actually would like to see what this.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Here's the reason why, because if you are being judged,
it actually would probably put that much more pressure on
you to be able to deliver it if you had
those guys out there. And with that being said, us
as defenders, when we're doing our weekly scouting report, we
know exactly who those guys are that you're talking about.
We know that you're going to take it, even if
(41:30):
they are super super good targets that they have. We
know exactly if if the quarterback coming into the game
is one of those Patrick Mahomes or Brett Farrs that
he is going to throw the ball. He has no conscience,
he doesn't care, he's going to go after it, and everybody,
like you said, they praise him for that. Like it's
(41:52):
like we're in the we're in the meeting room watching
were like, man, dude is unconscious and how he goes
after it. But we also know the guys that you're like, Yeah,
this guy's playing for his job. This guy has had
a bad season. He's continuing to try to fight his
way out of out of the slump that he's in.
We take those things in the consideration because it's that
(42:13):
extra moment in time you don't get. You don't get,
but so much time in the league, you get so
much time, and that equals a sack of fumble, a
broken up play. It never really unless you get like
the Mike Vicks and the guys that can actually kind
of prolong the play, like how Ben was in his prime.
(42:37):
If you can get guys who can extend to play,
like even right now today of Patrick Mahomes, those guys
tend to be able to make great decisions even when
the play breaks down. It's almost a part of the
play design. You come into the game knowing who those
quarterbacks are. The list of guys is very short on
(42:58):
who can do that. So the rest stuff and we're like, yep,
this is a five sack game, this is a six
sack game. Yeah, this is a two to three interception game.
We know that coming in because you don't get that
amount of time, and that's what we're banking on. When
we're doing our film review. You're trying to gain every
bit of a confidence or or you know, competitive edge
(43:20):
that you possibly can, and little things like this lineman
he's been getting beat off the ball for you know,
all season, Like if you do this, if you shift,
he's going to jump like he's going to we can
get an off sides. We can draw them off sides
on this guy. You make book on what guys are
struggling with on the other.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
Side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I'll bet Mac Jones hates John Lynch's guts because John
Lynch was the guy who wanted Trey Lance and Kyle
Shanahan was the guy who wanted mac Jones. And just
think about how much different his NFL life would be
if he was in San Fran right now. Damn, that's
brutal and the set is brock party.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
But then again, it didn't work out for Trey Lance
and San Francisco either though, so that's kind of not fair.
He's not He's not even in San fran anymore. He
did it, ain't like he burnt the world down, set
it on fire, got opportunities.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
I mean, he got banged up, and yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Who's had the better career so far, Mac Jones or
or or See Like, I think that's a harsh one.
I mean he might have done much better with I mean,
there you go. So I didn't even know that.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
I know y'all didn't. That's all. I'm trying to put
you up on some game. Yeah yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Got a real I got it right, Nine to eleven Pacific,
Noone to two Eastern, every Saturday.
Speaker 6 (44:47):
I'm just saying, like, I think it's just an interesting
case study because unfortunately everything outside around him and LaVar
you just said this like it's kind of deteriorated, And
I think that's deteriorated his ability as a player, but
also is confidence in his own play and then how
he can perform out there.
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