Hour 3: Jonas, Brady, & LaVar – Tatum’s Expectations

The Celtics take game 1, but pressure still lies on Jayson Tatum. Jalen Hurts addresses the overhaul on offensive scheme. Plus, “You In or Out?”

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Speaker 4 (02:00):
So the Boston Celtics are up one game to none
in the NBA Finals. Wipe out last night at home
Dallas got it down to eight and then all of
a sudden, the Celtics decided, all right, we're going to
get to the basket and play a little bit better
defense for a stretch. They close up third Strong never
looked back, and so Boston's up won nothing. Game two
is coming up in November, so I get ready for that.

(02:22):
Is the NBA Finals are going to be stretched out
for as long as humanly possible. Jason Tatum did not
was not the star for the Celtics by any means.
You know, I didn't really get it going early, and
they didn't really need him to be with the way
Porzingis was playing. But this is yeah, Jaalen Brown was awesome.
So Jason Tatum spoke after the game, and I can

(02:45):
already tell you that there's going to be some candy
ass somewhere who's going to have a problem with what
Jason Tatum said afterwards, because he was totally honest, and
he was totally upfront about the fact that, yeah, being
Game one of the Final did have a little bit
of an effect for him. Here was his emotion heading
into it.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
To be honest, I was nervous.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
I ain't gonna love it was.

Speaker 6 (03:07):
I was nervous in like a anxious way, right as
like a little kid Uh, it was just it's.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Surreal being in the finals.

Speaker 6 (03:20):
And you know, when you're young, I guess in your career,
you think you're always going to go back.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
And last year was kind.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
Of like a wake up call when we didn't make it. So,
you know, getting back to this point and being here
and it's really a big deal.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
There's going to be somebody who doesn't like the fact
that he said he was nervous heading into Game one?

Speaker 5 (03:39):
Why how are you right?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Why?

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Because people, like everybody wants it to be well, you
got to be Kobe, you got to be Michael Jordan,
you got to be a killer. And the knock on
Tatum has always been, well, he's not a killer.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
He's not dude.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
He's one of the best basketball players in the world.
And why the hell wouldn't you be a little bit
nervous going into the NBA Finals. I don't care who
you are, Like, why wouldn't you be nervis going in
to the biggest game of your career at home and
all that? And I just wonder if the discussion with
him is always going to surround there is always going
to center around the fact that he's not this dominant

(04:12):
vocal leader and because he's not, he can't have the
same impact on a game or on a franchise or
on a team. And lost in all that is, Dude,
the guy's like a borderline MVP contender. He's one of
the best players on the planet. And they didn't even
need him to have a great game last night because
they were so talented, And I wonder how much of
that's going to be a knock.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
He wasn't bad though, like Joe, he wasn't nonexistent enough.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
But Joe Missoula even spoke about it where he said,
I hate that there's this comparison who's better Jay Lennard
Jason Tatum. It's like they play well together. There's never
been an issue. There's never been this Shack or Kobe
thing with them. It's never been that sort of a problem.
But I feel like there's and we kind of talked
about it earlier, where there's always like this we got

(04:58):
to make.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
A divide in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
With the NBA coverage, there's always got to be this
or that argumentative like all the other things that come
along with it.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Well, maybe that's just like who's covering in the NBA. Mostly,
what are you getting.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
At I just they do walk ups.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Also, what's most interesting though about what Tatum said is
when you talk about nerves someone having an issue with it,
it touches on a little bit how he kind of
talked about early in his career. I think you realize
this more so with age. You know, you realize it
as a player. When you're playing professionally, you don't take
as many things for granted. I think when you first

(05:35):
get in the league, you kind of don't know what
you don't know, and there's an ignorance that comes along
with that.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
And you know, there's the saying the ignorance.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Is bliss Yeah, it's blissful because you don't feel the
stress of what it means and how hard it is
to get to that point. And he's played long enough
now to know like how hard it is. And you
can't take those seasons, those opportunities for granted. You know,
you always back, especially when you make it to an

(06:01):
NBA finals or you have you're on a team that
has a lot of success, you're like, oh, we're going
to be back, you know the next year. It doesn't
always happen, and so you can't take that stuff for granted.
I think it just it relates to like a lot
of people in life, Like I got to talk to
my cousin's football team next week, and it's always tough
because I think back to when I was in their
shoes what people said to me, and I remember them

(06:26):
always saying, it's always the same stuff. You know, it's
always talking about how you get you know, sacrifice and
you got to listen and do this and do that.
And it's like it's people who've been there before you.
And in that moment. Look, when you're young, it's not
even that you're not listening. You're listening.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
You're absorbing it.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Maybe you apply it, maybe you apply all of it
or some of it, but it's just like you don't
really fully understand what they mean.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Until you get to that.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Point where you look back and you're like, man, you
don't know how great this is. You don't know how
awesome this opportunity is. You know, and whether it's you know,
kids playing high school football or even like you know,
being at the pinnacle of your career as a professional athlete,
like you truly don't appreciate it in the moment, and
as you get older and you look back, you appreciate

(07:14):
it more for what it was then, because there's nothing
else like it in the world. So I have no
problem with him saying he's nervous because I think as
you get older in your career, you just start taking
things less for granted. At least that's how I view things.
I tend to be more I don't know, thankful for
like the opportunities and experiences everything else comes along with it.

(07:35):
I think that there's an element of like nervousness and
anxiousness because he understands the importance that it may be
the last time. You know, you don't know how many
more times, how many more opportunities you get. I mean,
think about Lebron. He goes out to the West outside
of the bubble boy year. You know, he hasn't had
the same one of success as he had in the East,
where every single year he was playing in the NBA finals. Like,

(07:58):
it's entirely different feels.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
I hope people don't have an issue with it, because
I think that's like a real moment for somebody who's
sharing like their athletic journey with everyone and just I
don't know how he sees it.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
I think He's a humble dude, and there's nothing wrong
with being a humble beast, and that's what he is.
And listen, he might not have had a crazy night
scoring wise, but he was only six away from what
Jalen Brown did. Jalen had twenty two. He had sixteen.
But if you think about what matters like, there were
moments in that game when the Mavericks were coming back.

(08:31):
If you recall, it was Tatum that had a timely
rebound and assists that led to a three pointer that
ultimately kind of slowed down and cooled off what the
Mavericks were doing in terms of their their comeback, and
he kind of was a part of hitting that comeback off.

(08:56):
I mean he he had eleven eleven rebus. He played
the most minutes of any any Celtic, He had the
most rebounds, was tied for most assists, and was second
in scoring. There's nothing or third and scoring. There's nothing
wrong with having a game and being a player like

(09:19):
Jason Tatum where he You know, I look at this
team and they remind me a lot of in ways,
not exactly, so don't misquote me, but this is more
like a Detroit Pistons team. Than it is a Lebron
d Wade Bosh, you know Miami Heat team or Michael

(09:42):
Jordan Pippin and you know whoever you want to add
into their you know, Chicago Bulls team. This is a
committee team. You have dirty work dudes like Rashid Wallace
and Ben Wallace who do the dirty work. And that's
a Al Horford's that's a in a lot of ways,

(10:04):
that's a really if you think about it, it's kind
of like a Jalen Brown or a Tatum if need
be or if necessary, but you can throw Porzingis in there.
You think of a Tayshawn Prince, you think of a
Chauncey Billups, a Rip Hamilton. All these guys can handle

(10:24):
the ball, play defense, and shoot. And to me, when
you look at this Boston Celtics team, they're configured in
a way where Jason Tatum doesn't have to be, Jalen
Brown doesn't have to be, you know, Drew Holliday doesn't.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Have to be.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
Especially with Porzingis bound, they can all be. Porzingis doesn't
have to be. They all can play a role and
whatever the night calls for. If the defense is shifted
over and paying more attention to Tatum, then it's a
night for somebody else to get it, and vice versa
as it moves on into the games and into the series.

(11:08):
So to me, I think Jason Tatum played a solid game.
He didn't have to be a world beater with thirty four.
Ye listen, Luca had over thirty points or thirty points
in the game and they didn't win.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
I think the problem is, and I don't know if
this is just an NBA thing or you guys probably
dealt with this to where just the nitpicky culture of
if you do something good, somebody's gonna find something wrong
with it. If Boston wins this series, which they're most
likely going to, there's gonna be people that say, yeah,

(11:43):
but their path was easy. Well, that's not their fault, Like,
what are they supposed to do not play games? You know, Well,
we'll sit this one out. We'll wait until so and
so gets healthy. You know, we don't feel right about this.
Tyrese Haliburton's out. Can't worry about that type of crime.
But that's like people did the same thing with the
Denver Nuggets lie last year. They said, you know the
first NBA Finals that the Warriors won, it was like, well,

(12:05):
you know, the calves were all banged up and Kyrie
was hurting this, so what do you want to do?
Like you're playing who you're playing, And so I feel
like that happens a lot in the NBA, and you'll
hear you know people, I think Draymond Green's even talked
about it to where people spend so much time worried
about the drama and all the other craft that comes
along with the NBA instead of just looking at the

(12:27):
fact you watch some of those guys. Last night, Kyrie
Irving made a play on the baseline against Al Horford
that was unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
And yet the discussion.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Is always going to be, well, Kyrie Irving is this
and everything else that comes along with him and.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
The sports talk period, that's sports coverage period. You're always
going to have those who take the contrarian approach and
those who praise the greatness of it all. I just
I'll just say, just super quickly, briefly, just back to
like looking at the Pistons. Nobody looks at any of
the Pistons play and say yep, greatest of all time.

(13:02):
Nobody does it. There's a chance there's a small chance
that you could get a run out of this Boston
Celtics team by the way they're configured, and you might
not come away with saying that any of them are
like greatest of all time. And you know what, and
a team sport, ultimately, you want to be remembered for

(13:23):
being a great teammate and you guys meshed well enough
to be able to what to win it all. And
so to me, if that's what they have going on
right now and they're okay with playing the roles that
they play, who cares if you try to say Jalen
Brown is better or Jason Tatum is better than Jaylen Brown,
want vice versa or something else. It doesn't matter. It

(13:45):
just seems like these guys play well together, they understand
their roles, and it's led to them being very close
for a long time. And now they're to the point
where their experience has led to further success. They've gone further,
they've continued to improve, and now they're here at the
pinnacle of the NBA, you know, championships. So to me,

(14:09):
I don't I don't see this as being uh, anybody
should be having any type of real criticism towards Jason Tatum.
They did what they needed to do to have a
handle victory, UH, a very impressive victory in game one
of the finals. You just got to see how the
rest of it plays out.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
And we got six weeks still games two and three,
so we got to Uh, you got to get the
coverage in before all that. Hey, by the way, UH,
any final using of the contract for Dan Hurley and
UH and the LA Lakers.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
I do want to give the Lakers, and the Yukon
came back and gave him a hell of an offer too.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
I do want to give the Lakers a little bit
of credit here. I mean, if you can't be in
the NBA Finals because you're not good enough, you can
at least steal all the coverage on Day one of
the NBA Finals, and they certainly did that. So apparently
they're a meeting later on today. And of course Lebron
James wants everybody to know, listen, do not hire the
next head coach for me, think about the next decade

(15:07):
when it comes to the Lakers organization.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
Okay, Okay, you got it, whatever you say.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Isn't he a free ation?

Speaker 5 (15:15):
He? I think he can opt out, but they've already.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
So he's got the ability to do that if he
wants to.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Right, Yeah, but hey, they're going to offer him fifty
something million a year or whatever it is, some crazy
amount and he's going to stick around.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
And you know, we get to see whether or not
Dan Hurley is the guy and if he's not.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
By the way, if they decide that if Dan Hurley
turns the job down, if you're JJ Reddick, do you
now take the job or do you go wait, hold
on a second, so I'm planned b like if I'm
JJ Reddick.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
Well, they did talk about JJ Reddick first though, before
all of this surface.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
According to war Znarowski, Reddick was never really seriously considered.
Dan Hurley was always the guy and you don't, well,
he doesn't have to be offended.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
Yeah, Dan Hurley feels.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Like it's the bar at the end of the night.
You know, you spend all your time something that didn't
work out and then come right back around. Oh hey
you're still here.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
Dang. You know what you know, that's that's around.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
That's that's something everybody can relate to.

Speaker 7 (16:23):
It depends, that goes both ways to depends on what
you might have been in that situation where someone saying
to you you're still here, or you might have been
the person that was say that didn't work out.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
Generally, if you're still there, there's a reason why you're
still there. Yeah. By the way, all right, just just
be clear on that one. Yes, all right, that is
that is correct, whether whether you were the one that
noticed the one that's still there, or you were the
one that's still there. As you mentioned, there's a reason

(16:59):
why you still there. Okay, last call, it certainly was.

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You didn't like it? You didn't?

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debate about how it started versus how it ended.

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You could tell that something clearly had changed, that's for certain.
Whether it was the budget, whether it was the writers,
something clear.

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I mean, Lee would probably know better, Although I really
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I kin'd I kind of fool with Damon. Damon is
the brother the king that passed away him and that
the one I was talking about, the son of the king.
That that's the second one he ended up taking. He
actually ended up taking Damon's wife who who you know.
I don't want spoil alert, but them two is head
and for it This is going to be ahead on
collision between them two because they're like the same dude.

(24:42):
They're the same dude, and it takes the same dude
to deal with the same dude, if you know what
I mean. So that's going to be fun to watch
to see how that kind of unfolds. You think Jalen
Hurts is goin that being the same dute he was
which one? Which one? The Super Bowl one or the
one last year? You know, because last year didn't go
well for those Philadelphia Eagles. I'm gonna let through the

(25:03):
quarterback address that I'm gonna stand back and listen. Well.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
I asked that because Kellen Moore is now the offensive
coordinator in Philadelphia, and apparently, according to Jalen Hurts, a
lot of changes, about ninety five percent of the offense
completely different than it was. And Jalen Hurts spoke about
learning this new offense heading into this year for Philadelphia.

Speaker 13 (25:25):
You know right now, been a lot of new inventory
and majority of it, you know, probably ninety five percent
of it being new. So it's just been been that
process and it's been a fun process because you get
to see what works for other people. The number of
coaches that I've had Since I've been here, I've been
able to take in a lot of new knowledge and
new understanding, and so I think the goal coming in

(25:47):
was to learn Kellen's offense and master it. And I
think that's been a process and I think by the
end of it, I wanted to be mines and have
it in my own way. I think that's kind of
a credit to again, the lack of annuity. I'm with
that and it being a thing where I've kind of
had to take all these new things and new boys
ends and still go out there and be successful and efficient.

(26:09):
And so I think that's exactly what's going to happen again.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
It's got to be a pain in the ass to
learn a new offense and one off season it is.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
It can also create a spark.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
In you, you know, to want to learn how maybe
a different perspective, different way of running things. I mean,
Kella Moore is a sharp offensive mind. It's a reason
why he continually has found opportunities from Dallas to the
Chargers now to the Eagles, and he's probably a breath

(26:40):
of fresh air. And this is not to knock Brian Johnson.
He was putting a tough spot. Last year he was
a first time you know, play caller, elevated from a
quarterback coach, and it's tough to do when you're cutting
your teeth in the NFL, that is just an entirely
different task. You know, I always say when guys are
thrust in that position, there's so many moving parts. You're

(27:02):
trying to figure out your identity as a play caller.
What's your style, what's your personality? You know, how do
you respond when you're in you know plus fifty on
a second and one. You the type you got to
take a shot. You're the type we got to go
get the first down, then take a shot on first
and ten. You know, there's just different styles of how
coaches do and how they look at it, how they
play the percentages, and so there's that element of it.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
There's learning your team learning.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
You know, who your quarterback is and how he responds
to adversity, how he responds, you know, after a good play,
good series, good game, you know, week to week, throughout
the course of the week, his preparation, you know.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
On understanding your offensive line.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
The guy's in the trenches, you know, how how much
you can lean on them in certain circumstances, what they're
capable of against certain techniques and different blocks. There's so
many details you've got to figure out. And if you
don't know that first part, you don't know what your
identity is, the style that you'd like to have as
a play caller and all that.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
It's just it takes a while to find it.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
So I'm not I don't want to knock what Brian
Johnson was last year for him, but Kellen Moore has bidden.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Through all of that.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
You know, he was essentially a coach when he was
playing back in college. That's one of the reasons why
he was one of the more successful college quarterbacks that
ever played the game.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
And he's a nominee for the Hall of Fame this year.
So for Hurts, the cool.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Thing is at this point in his career he gets
to learn a different system, a new offense.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
That can you know, when you've.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Got a lot of the same stuff around you, a
lot of same guys you're playing with, that can be
exciting for you and it could, you know, force you
to expand and open up your mind, open up the
way you see the game of football. So I'm bullish
on the Eagles this year. Man, I think they bounced
back in a big way. They took care of business.
They didn't let it become a distraction. They took care.
To me, the biggest issue they had last year, which

(28:48):
was both coordinators.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
And you bring in VIC fans.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
You on defense, you're bringing Kella Moore boom. Let's go
fly Egles, fly man because this team is going to be,
to me, the best in the NFC East, one of
the best in the NFC, I think, and potentially making
another Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
Run also does help that everybody else in the division
seemingly got worse outside of Washington. Washington seems like they've improved, but.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
It's still a new coach, right and you just never know, yeah,
right in a new quarterback, you just sometimes you just
don't know how that's just going to play out.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Plus one fifteen to whin the East. Philly is right
now in DraftKings by the.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Way, watching Ja Daniels throw me.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
It looks like he's gonna be the guy day one
and everything looks good. But man, he is slight of frame.
I don't know why didn't feel like he looked as
slight in college.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
But who.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
I hope he stays healthy like people don't understand when
they look at guys they're like thinner and they're like, oh,
you know, it's like, no, that's a real concern. If
you can actually make it seventeen games in an NFL season,
it's legit.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Guys are coming at you like LeVar with bad intentions.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
And knowing that he's slight.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
When y'all have to know how to hurt people.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Yes, that's correct.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
I try to explain.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
When you get to the professional level, the guys who
are dns know how to hit you to hurt you,
and they know how to hit you to get the
ball out.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Like when you watch college tape.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
That's probably the most frustrating thing when you watch college
at the NFL is like you'll watch dudes who go
to get the sack in college and they're just like
trying to get the guy down, you know, Like you
watch the NFL players, they're like sometimes the don't even
try to hit.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
The court, like they take the ball. Yeah, they're just
trying to get that.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
They're trying to literally taking your arm.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
But if I can't get the ball, you're right, I'm
trying to hurt you. I'm gonna put my head on
your ribs on your quads, like anything where where you
can get bruises and it hurts really bad. That's that's
where I'm trying to I'm trying to land. I was
trying to touch down.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Wasn't that the concern with Trevor Lawrence when he came
in that he wasn't overly big? But he seems like
he's bigger than Daniels when Daniels but they could be
the same size. I don't know, he seems bigger. I
was listed at two twenty and Jade Daniel was listed
at two tens.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Being that I have a big head, I can acknowledge
someone else's. Trevor Lawrence has a big long head sales. Yeah,
it's long, so it makes him seem like.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
He's bigger than me. He maybe really is.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
Yeah, it's a great call.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Interesting.

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Speaker 2 (31:46):
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Speaker 4 (31:58):
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We're gonna have another edition of You and You Out
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(32:19):
We got the NHL, you know, we got horse racing.
We can look back on all sorts of fun stuff,
But how many days a you're gonna spend it the
memorial there in Dublin, Brady, you get to a VIP treatment.
You're gonna get to uh, get to the te box
and rip one off the off the tee, I mean
golf term.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
You know you're golfer. Now, I'm going to top golf tonight,
are you? Yeah? You got like season pass or something? No,
just going back, all right, I'm gonna go to the
one in Manhattan Beach. You can invite Lee this time
or no El. Yeah, by the way, else brewer not

(33:00):
far from there. That broken skull I p a, oh yeah,
broken skull tip top. I don't want to break my skull.
I don't know that I'll be drinking that Steve Austin's beer.
Oh okay, pretty good. Nice, it's pretty good.

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Speaker 2 (33:32):
Two pros and a cup of show what even? And
if they're in at least four If they're.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
Out, all right, lead to laugh. What do we got
left my wallet?

Speaker 11 (33:43):
And Elson gunder.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
Guys, gotta get it. I got got to get it.

Speaker 12 (33:47):
Yes, right, guys, gotta get this right out of the way,
right off the bat.

Speaker 11 (33:52):
You guys like Wheel of Fortune.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
Yeah, I'm over here with love Wheel of Fortune.

Speaker 12 (33:56):
Well, it's Pat Saja's last night after forty one years,
you're gonna get me.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Evan A. White are retiring.

Speaker 11 (34:02):
I was wondering about Vana White.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
I'm not exactly. I thought they were both leaving.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
She got she got a new deal, and I think
she's coming back and coming back.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
I thought, I don't know, But.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
What do you mean?

Speaker 5 (34:16):
She is one of my first well sixty seven really Yeah,
for her, she's the best.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
Pat season influenced a lot of us. I think he
used to be. Was he a radio guy or was he?

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I think he did he start here at Fox Sports Radio?

Speaker 5 (34:36):
Is that you're trying to very seat?

Speaker 3 (34:39):
He's like Stephen A. Smith. Did he start here?

Speaker 5 (34:41):
No, he's not. Come on, he's not that talented. Please.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
But I think say Jack was like a TV guy
or a weatherman or something like that.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
Maybe I'm thinking of David Letterman. He's an Anapolitan legend.
I'll tell you that he is. He is awesome. Yeah,
there's a hospital with the whole wing of it named
after him because of how much money he's put into
the medical facility there. Thank you, because I've used it
a few times, me and family. So thanks past that. No,

(35:11):
I almost thought you a b on on enter tank.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Why is that such a touchy subject?

Speaker 5 (35:19):
Because I'm vulnerable. I didn't let you in. You just
just be like shooting it at.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Okay, what else have you got to the hospital for recently?

Speaker 5 (35:29):
There's a few things that I can could throw out there.
Not recently, but I haven't lived in Annapolis for over
a decade though.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Back there. Yeah, yeah, gotcha. Yeah, I'm talking about thank you.

Speaker 11 (35:43):
He wasn't he wasn't disjuncting.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
I'm in I'm in on on pat Jack Radio.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
All right, Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 11 (35:53):
Right, good morning.

Speaker 12 (35:58):
Now the army so during Vietnam it's kind of uh yeah,
there you go, Chicago guy. By the way, guys, the
first ever friendly competition featuring adoptable rescue dogs facing off
in a friendly competition featuring all thirty two NHL teams.
It's called the Stanley Pup Out Out. NHL Network is
holding this. Yeah, it's the first ever out NHL Stanley

(36:20):
Pup out.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
How does that work? Like, what's what do they do?

Speaker 11 (36:24):
I guess there's one dog featuring each team.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Uh and uh.

Speaker 12 (36:29):
They're gonna They're gonna showcase their canine skills.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
It's just so lame.

Speaker 11 (36:34):
It's very lame.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
It feels like it's gonna end up being dog fighting.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
These like parents who lived through their kids out yeppathetic,
good job?

Speaker 5 (36:41):
Are all out on that?

Speaker 11 (36:42):
Guys?

Speaker 12 (36:42):
Hey, Utah that Utah NHL team, they've narrowed it down
from twenty to six, twenty to six names.

Speaker 11 (36:50):
Uh, tell me what you're in and what you're out on?
Utah Blizzard out out.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
I don't think Blizzard when I think of Utah.

Speaker 12 (37:00):
Yeah, Utah Hockey Club out, Utah Mammoth out, Utah outlaws.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
I like not bad, not bad.

Speaker 11 (37:10):
Utah venom no.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Venom, Like what venom is in Utah. They don't even drink.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
That's three point three point beer.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Hey, why do you call them the Utah oduels?

Speaker 5 (37:21):
Dang non alcohol? That's funny.

Speaker 11 (37:24):
Uh, Utah yetti out.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
I say that the laws of the YETI outlaw. I'm
okay with the rest of them. Cool long the Utah
Mammoth out hm, you're out on the Utah mammoths. You
ever see one? I'm really gonna do that. I'm really
go I guess I have.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
I don't know. I feel like we need to get
a yetty in sports.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Like yeah, okay, huh are you seeing a mammoth?

Speaker 5 (37:55):
I guess?

Speaker 3 (37:55):
So what about the Utah whales? I mean, based on
what we would look.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
At doubling down? Dang, so he hits me WITHO gout.
Now you're throwing.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Let's just have to do with you.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
I don't know you you was playing off of what
Joan isn't I'm really going to do this.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
The Utah yetti? Yeah, yeah, you know the Utah yet
he does?

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (38:25):
The London yetti? Who damn h how about the Utah
big bees?

Speaker 11 (38:43):
You guys tell me? You guys, it's a Phil Steel
magazine week. You guys into the.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
I don't think anyone does nostalgia Malga for certain.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
He does. You need to be in Jonson might teach
you if you.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Thinks about I watched Big Dune kickoff.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
That's good for me.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Bang yeah, well we we trust me. Everyone uses Phil Steel.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Yeah, hey, you can keep Phil Steel or whatever his
name is. I'll take Rob Stone any day.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
Of the week. I support my guys. I got your
steel right here. Player. Enjoy your weekend.