June 11, 2024 • 36 mins
The Lakers swing and miss on Dan Hurley, so what now? Sean Payton is openly bullish on Zach Wilson despite the high picks on Bo Nix. The guys look at the odds for starting QB’s on week 1. Plus, another edition of “You In or Out?”
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throw what if at you what if Dan Hurley rejects
the offer from the Lakers and JJ Reddick rejects the offer.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
From the Lakers, then what.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Then then are we look at an option see for
the quote unquote great franchise that is the Lakers organization?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
What's that you go back and apologize to Darwin House?
You know, maybe we made a mistake.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
He's back in Milwaukee now.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
He just took the job as the top assistant there
for Doc Rivers with the Fox, so he's gone.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
James Barrego of.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
The Pelicans, he's been rumored to be a potential candidate.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I also saw Lee can you look this up? I
don't want to give out bad information here, but screw it.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
We'll just lie later on and say we didn't do it.
Is Jay Wright's name being floated out there by mark Stein?
I wanted to say it was Jay Wright. Mark Stein
had something about, you know, the potential of it being
Jay Wright, former Villanova coach?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Uh, stealth candidate? Yes, stealthy?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Okay, all right? Stealth candidate? Is that what you say
when you just really are throwing crap out a wall?
Speaker 6 (02:13):
But why not how you phrase it?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Why not? Let's you know, is that where journalism has
got to the nowadays? It's like, well, we don't want
to say exactly what it is. We're just going to
go and say stealth candidate.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yeah, yeah, it's a new one.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Though.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Have you heard that one before? I don't know that
I heard that. I mean, I've never heard it.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I mean, is anyone going to take this job?
Speaker 6 (02:34):
So, okay, that's a great question.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Can you imagine if we ever in the history of
sport had an NBA or NFL team actually not be
able to get a coach.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
But let me post this, So, why can't JJ Reddick
just accept the job? I mean, you know what I'm saying, Like,
is his obligation to ABC, ESPN that great that he
just can't leave and say I'm going to become the
next head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers. Everyone would understand.
(03:10):
The idea that they're waiting until after the NBA Finals
doesn't negate his ability to just accept the job and
become the head coach. I mean, yes, maybe you have
to leave at that point. Although our colleague Doug Gottlieb,
he's still doing radio and he's a head coach down
in college.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Basketball, there's hope.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Look well, I'm just saying like it's obviously being done now,
and that doesn't again take away from JJ Redick still
doing some of his obligations or some of those things.
If he wants, he can negotiate that to a deal.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Yeah, he makes the schedule, so he gets off.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So I guess, I guess the greater question is like,
what was the hold up anyway, because now it looked like, okay,
the hold up was for Dan Hurley. Whatever's going on
behind the scenes. However, this was being orchestrated. They wanted
to maybe try to go after and make a pitch
to Dan Hurley. Why it took so long, I don't know,
because if it was this dream candidate you thought he was,
why wouldn't he be the first one up As soon
(04:07):
as the college you know, college basketball season ended, Slash,
you knew that you need a new new coach because
you moved on from Darva Ham. I mean, it looks
like an absolute circus right now. If you are a
Los Angeles Lakers fan, try to tell me how it
looks otherwise. But more so than that, if JJ Reddick
is that next guy online, first off, does he still
(04:28):
want it after it's been very public that Dan Hurley
flew out interview decided to decline it. If I'm JJ Reddick,
my price just went up. It's like you're going to
take any less than whatever was offered to Dan Hurley
if you weren't offered that, but now it's going to
be even more so in order to make me take
that job. But none of it makes any sense. And
(04:50):
so they either don't know what they're looking for or
it's it's such a cluster because of the Lebronson there
and the ownership and Polinka and like all these other
parties involved that they don't know what direction they're really
trying to go and what they're trying to do. No
(05:10):
matter what, though, this is shocking to me that we
are now this far into this vacancy without having a
head coach for the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I mean, and also just the from a basketball standpoint,
where are they at in the Western Conference? Because this
was like going into this past year, it was like, yeah,
we get it. They got swept in the Western Conference finals,
but at least it was against the team that ended
up winning a championship, and the future is bright. They
made a much better run and a deeper run than
anybody thought. And that was before Minnesota got great, before
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Dallas made a run like they did. Oklahoma City was
the one seed. Like you just you look around the
Western Conference you go, well, dude, this is like a
couple of years in a row they've been a playing team,
Like they've had to scrape and claw to be a
play in team in the Western Conference. I just I
think people look at the gig and go, I don't know,
like maybe five years ago, with Lebron a little bit younger,
(06:09):
maybe this is a much better gig than what a
lot of people expect. But it just seems like you
have the same issues all the time. It's Lebron running
the show, Anthony Davis, can't he stay healthy? And then
you just hope that you know, a deal or two
at the deadline and maybe they'll be able to bring
in somebody that can contribute unlike they did this past year.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I just I don't think.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
It's a strong personalities man. Lebron's strong personality, Anthony Davis
strong personality. Bus I could assume she's a strong personality.
Polinka seems like he's an assertive personality. I just if
you're a coach and you're stepping into this situation. I
(06:50):
just don't know how you how you feel like you
can have success. I really don't. And if you have
a guy like JJ Reddick who was willing and wanting
to do it, regardless of his his resume or his
lack of experience at doing it, if you get a
(07:12):
guy that can handle those personalities and manage those personalities,
then why would they have drugged out the way that
they did. Why did they Why was there such a
quick pivot or change the direction in the media in
terms of we're going try to go with Dan Hurley now,
Like it just seems there's something strange going on behind
(07:36):
the scenes. I don't know what it is. Is it
a tuggle war battle? Who's in the battle, Who's on
what side of the rope? I do not know, but
just something doesn't seem right. And for Dan Hurley to
deny the job, I mean I didn't think that he
(07:56):
would take it, But based off of all information given
and knowing what we know, I thought this assessment that
Q gave was spot on. Why wouldn't you want to
take a chance at the next level and try to
win an NBA championship and in LA with the Lakers
of all teams, that's spot on. I want to have
(08:17):
that opportunity.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Did it feel quick to you too? Like I thought
he would drag at least for like a day or something.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
The whole thing was quick. It was very quick when
he said just just something doesn't seem right.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
When he when it came out that he said, uh,
I'll make my decision Monday. I was like, Oh, he's
gonna stay like, there's no like, you're not going to
lead the fan.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Base on and all that.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And apparently they had some team meeting and he talked
to him and said, hey, you know, we're gonna get.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Back to work.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
And who knows what the the offer is from Yukon.
I just think they also fired a guy who just
took him to the playoffs two years in a row.
If JJ Reddick or somebody got this gig, and you
were to say, all right, first two years you went
to the Western Conference finals and then you went to
the playoffs the next year. Oh, by the way, your
job's in jeopardy, Like who wants to get and especially
(09:07):
if you've got options, if you're JJ Riddick, why would
you want the guys having such success as a media member,
whether it's the podcast, whatever that's doing. But he's calling
the biggest games in the NBA. He's great in studio,
he's knowledgeable. People can maybe not like his tone and
his demeanor at times, but he's he's willing to call
(09:29):
out whatever he feels and share his opinions. He's unapologetic
for it. The guy's a superstar on the media and
he's made a ton of money in his career. Why
the f would you want to go be a coach
in the NBA where guys get fired seemingly every six
months when they're successful. Adrian Griffin didn't even make it
to half the season and got clipped.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, that one didn't make any sense, By the way,
The answer to that is always easy, though, because think
about this. You don't go into any walk of life
thinking negatively, Like you don't go to a grocery store
thinking like, well, I'm gonna go and now I'm a
slip and I'm a fall, I'm gonna break my hip
like you don't think about the negative consequences of taking
(10:12):
on new opportunities or when you go to do something.
Most people are more task oriented or they're looking at
the upside, like they're saying, like, oh, I get the
chance to be the get the chance to coach Lebron.
I give you the chance to be the next head
coach of the Lakers. You're looking at the upside of it,
like you. We all talk ourselves into the dream scenario
that when we lay our head down to night, that's
(10:33):
what we would close our eyes. That's what goes on in
our head, That's what we envision, that's what we think
is going to take place. No one takes a job
begrudgingly and with this a negative attitude about it. So
I always understand what people take the chance to take
the opportunity to do it. You know, they either want
(10:53):
to achieve at the highest level, which is what I
said yesterday, and I think maybe, look, that will be
there for Dan Hurley. He's young enough where it'll be
there if he wants to be there in the future.
The reality is he probably wants it to be the
right circumstance of the right situation. And I think you
could make a case now more than ever that if
there was a coach in college you wanted to jump
to the NBA, now would be the time because of
(11:14):
how college sports is going with NIL, the realignment, everything
else is going on, So it would make sense that
you'd say there's too much uncertainty. I don't want to
deal with this. I'd rather jump to the NBA. Now,
that makes sense to me. But if it's not the
right situation and you can't have complete autonomy and you're
beholden to that superstar, maybe the greatest of all time
(11:34):
in Lebron James, then you might have reservations. And that's understandable.
I've had a head coach and I'm not gonna say
what head coach was that I spoke with about this,
but he talked about the difference between the NBA and
in college and just really basketball in general at that level,
and he said it was more about managing superstar personalities.
That it's really really hard to create a team environment
(11:58):
unless you have the right superstar with the right mindset,
because that's that's ultimately what it's about. It's a sport
of at times, individual plays that make the difference between
winning and losing. The only five guys in the court,
you could have that one superstar that can allow you
to have every you know, every night, that chance or
when you get in the playoffs, that chance to hit
(12:18):
the game winning basket that turns that series, that turns
the tide that wins you a championship. And so that's
ultimately what your job is is to find a way
of tapping into that superstar to get him to be
the leader you need him to be, or for him
to help create the environment you need him to create.
It feels like honestly glorified babysitting when you when you
(12:40):
hear about it like that, and it feels like a
really difficult job because it's not schematic as much as
you'd think, and it's not about some of the other
things out there like like you'd think, like in the NFL,
I would say, talent's so equated. Yes, it helps to
have a star quarterback, but even then he's only out
there at most half the time. You're still gonna have
(13:01):
a defense, you still have special teams, you still have
you know, scheme, and even the best quarterback, if he
doesn't have help around in protection all these other things,
it ain't gonna matter. So you know, in comparison to
other sports, like there's where there's a lot more scheme involved,
a lot more coaching involved a lot more analysis even
during the week and offseason, not as much in the NBA,
(13:22):
And so it's tough if you feel like there's someone
there that's pulling the strings that you can't get along with,
or is it gonna take you into consideration. And I
feel like that's what's hanging over the Los Angeles Lakers
right now.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Does this take a hit on Lebron's legacy? I don't
think coach a coach denying the opportunity to coach him.
I'm just listening to what you just said. I think
it just made me like in my mind, like I'm curious,
like does he take a hit from something like this.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I'm not saying that that was the definitive reasons.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I'm not saying that's what you said, but I will
say I'm not as sinuating that's what you said, but
in poor curious.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
When the report came out about him trying to move
on from Spolstra, and I'm not sure if you saw that. Yeah,
and then you look at the track record in Cleveland,
you look at the track record basically everywhere he's been
butt there and and by the way, that was because
he had to deal with a strong personality in pat
Riley who put his foot down, and obviously the Heat
have been incredibly successful in the sense of not having
(14:20):
a Lebron James still being able to have success, still
be be able to overcome that. Like they to me,
and we'll see what happens with Jimmy Butler, but they
to me are a team that I look at and
say they they've They've got the right components in dynamics.
They just need to find that next guy if it's
not gonna be Jimmy Butler, whoever it is, to get
(14:41):
them over the top. But if you look at the
track record of Lebron James, to your question, it feels
like he's always been back channeling or behind the scenes
doing whatever he's doing to create the situation that he wants.
And then maybe he feels like he learned from that
Miami experience with pat Riley how to build it, how
(15:05):
to do it because they were successful in Cleveland. He
brought Cleveland a championship and so now he's looking for
that same opportunity in LA And they did win a
championship in LA. You know, we can all make fun
of the Bubble Boy Championship and all that the reality
is that's their banner. They won what they brought a
championship to La Masks at all. Well, we're not that matters.
(15:25):
They won it. So maybe he feels like he's done
enough now throughout his career and even as a player
and understanding how to build teams that he should be
able to handle things this way.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
What I do know is they've done a hell of
a job somehow making themselves part of the story during
the NBA Finals coverage, because I would argue the Lakers
head coaching job is more interesting and the conversation around
it than the finals have been as far as how
these games have.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Gone early on.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
So I don't disagree with that Game three.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
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round up here around the National Football League apparently Zach
Wilson is in contention to be the starting quarterback for
(18:26):
the Denver Broncos right now. Sean Payton, his new head
coach there in Denver, he spoke recently about their interest
and how they feel about Zach Wilson. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 9 (18:41):
We just felt like, man, we'd love to work with
this guy. It wasn't too long ago. We remember grading
him and we felt the investment was worth it relative
to his skill set and his talent, and.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
So it took a while.
Speaker 9 (18:58):
We spent the better part of a month and a
half working on that trade.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
So that was Sean Payton talking about Zach Wilson and
potentially being the getting the opportunity there to be the
started for the Denver Broncos. If they just drafted bo Nicks,
Like why is what's what's the delay? Just throw him
out there and let's let's see this thing happen, Like
let's get it going, Like why go in any other
direction other than the guy you just drafted in the
(19:25):
first round. If everything's going that well.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, I don't know, right, you know why you make
that draft selection and then sit there and turn around
and be like, well, yeah, we signed Zach Wilson, but
we want him to be our guy. It's like, well, okay,
I mean we've we've seen how it's gone so far
for him. It would make probably more sense for Zach
Wilson to sit, learn and watch, granted, even though it's
a rookie, just to allow him for his next opportunity
(19:51):
to be one where he can excel and he can
have a chance at succeeding and proving he can be
a quarterback in this league. For bo Nicks, like you
draft him to be your quarter act of this team.
This is to me where organizations, when they make a decision,
they're not putting all their eggs in that basket and
they then find themselves creating their own controversies when they
(20:12):
don't need to. You drafted bo Nicks for a reason.
You've touted him up all along this offseason up until
this report. So either Sean Payn's saying it because he
wants to pump up Zach Wilson, he wants to. I mean,
even at this point, I don't think you're trying to
create more trade value for him, and I don't think
that's the case. He's probably trying to make sure these
(20:34):
guys know like, oh no, if bo Nix wins it,
he's earning it. He's not just being given it because
where he's drafted that probably has something to do with this.
And you preach that to everyone of the team, I mean,
var knows. Outside of a few of the solidified veterans,
you know, they're gonna say every person, everyone's competing, everyone's
up for It's like, all right, but the reality is
we know who's starting and who's not. A lot largely
(20:54):
because of the contracts are largely because of the investment
that's been made into that player.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Yeah, and that's not the case here, right, Like neither
one of these guys are high paid ones on a
rookie contract and the other one they're both on rookie contract.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Right, Comparatively speaking, it would be I mean, the investment
into Knicks is much more at this point at least.
I mean, you're right in.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
The fact that the draft pil but with the draft pick, yeah,
it's eighteen.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Point six million over the next four years.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
With the twelfth pick, I mean, that's a super high
pick to take a quarterback that you may not use
immediately upon drafting, which, listen, we know it's a quarterback
driven league, So what does that mean for bo Nicks
if he's not starting right away.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
I don't know if.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
That bodes well because it's it's not a good team
right now. It's a team that's it finished strong and
they're trying to find their way, but they're in need
of a quarterback. And so I would still say he's
a rookie. Yes, the investment is there and the value
is there in the draft, but it's a rookie contract
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and Zach Wilson is not a high paid guy.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
What's the other guy, Jared Stidham.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
I don't even know if he's even in the mix
to that he might even end up being the starter.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Who knows.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
But I still think that this is one of those
things where Sean Payton is trying to build a winner,
and it could be as simple as all the guys
that I have here, and we've seen him do it in.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
He'll use all his quarterbacks, even if it's in different roles,
He'll use them all if he feels like it gives
them an opportunity to win.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
So I don't see I don't.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
See this being anything other than Sean Payton knows he
wants to win, he needs to win, and he's going
to play the guy that he feels is going to
best fit that role of going in there as the starter.
And he doesn't really have anything but a little bit
of pressure saying we used the twelfth pick, which I
(22:58):
think you can get from under. I don't think you
can actually be held accountable and as much of if
it was a number one overall picked like the number
one pick versus the twelfth pick. So I don't think
it's in a bad spot.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
It's it's a great point because Taysom Hill b yu
found a spot for him. Maybe he looks at Zach
Wilson as a new Taysom Hill, you know, maybe we're
gonna get him to see some h back, you know,
play tight end, quarterback, up back. I'm just saying nickelback.
There's all options for him on the table or.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Man, I don't know I should say that, say say no,
say yeah good, put him no, holster no, put it
back in the holster. Johnny Ring, I bet you won't.
I bet you won't say it. I'm not gonna say
I bet you you won't say it.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
It would be incredibly reckless.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I'm not going to say, text it, and then we'll
see whether or not you made the right decision.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I know I made the right decision.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
I want to know what you are going to text it.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I'm going to text by the way I said. I
know I made the right I have odds.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
I have odds.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
According to our friends of DraftKings for quarterbacks starting Week
one around the NFL, you guys want to run through
these here, little just come on, let's have some fun
with it, all right. It beats talking about witsback.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
I don't think that's egregious.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Okay, okay, all right, the next message, all right, okay,
I got.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
You, Okay, okay, Well there were.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Okay, right, no, no, air brakes were good.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Air brakes were good. I'm not sure I'm not even going.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
To do it. I know you're not. You understand, like
just slowing the take there with the whole text message.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
No, I just you know, keep my mouth shut, all right,
So we have we have a live studio.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Yeah, I gotta played off of that too. Q's message.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
All right, So here are the odds for the Broncos
quarterback to play the first week one snap. Bon Nicks
is your favorite at minus four hundred so a four
to one favorite. Zach Wilson at a plus four fifty.
Jared Stidham at plus six fifty. All right, so overwhelming.
Bon Nicks is protecting to be the guy.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
No love for Stidham.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
The Raiders quarterback to play first week one snap. Your
options are Gardner Minshew and Aidan O'Connell. Who would you,
guys guess is the favorite to take the week one snap?
Miche Gardner Minshew is a two to one right now.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, I mean they paid him a little bit this offseason.
Two in comparison, O'Connor's on his rookie deal. I mean
it's it's I thought it was more backup money, but
apparently not. It is be a starter.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
The Vikings quarterback to play the first week one snap
options are Sam Donald and JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
I bet Donald's to save Donald.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Yeah, at a minus two thirty, it is Sam Donald.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Wow. Good for him though, you know, this could be
a great situation for him to kind of reinvent or
restart his career, especially in that offense those weapons.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Next up, the New England Patriots quarterback to play the
first week Drake May. Jacoby Brissett is a minus two sixty.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I've heard. I heard he's been getting.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
All the first team reps, but like it hasn't the
same been for Aidan O'Connell. Didn't he get the first look?
Speaker 5 (26:42):
And why is there more pressure to play? Why is
there more pressure to play bo Nicks than it is
to play Drake May. I would think that there's more
pressure to play Drake May than there would be to
play bow Nicks.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I would I would think so too. I think it's
just because they have a veterans starter who's you know,
done more in the league, and Jacoby Brissett's he's gotten
a little more equity built up. But then within that
organization two in New England, you know, as far as
Jared Steadam and Zach Wilson, they don't really have any
background there in Denver.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
All right, Next up the New York Giants. Options are
its Daniel Jones.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
That's I I mean, come on, if Daniel Jones isn't starting,
somebody's losing their jos.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Well, you didn't even let me give the options here.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
It doesn't matter, I mean, it doesn't matter with you.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Drew Locke is a plus two seventy five for anybody interested.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Daniel Jones minus.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
All right, so the Seattle Seahawks Geno Smith and Sam Howe.
Geno Smith is a seven to one and this one
which is tugging at the heartstrings of one LeVar Arrington
and Eddie Garcia, the Stellers Justin Fields and Russell Wilson.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Justin Fields is plus four fifty.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Rus Wilson is a minus seven hundred to get the
Week one snap for the Pittsburgh Steelers. It doesn't matter,
wouldn't you just or maybe you guys wouldn't, But you
know how good I am a gambling so I would
I would just bet on every single underdog and then
just you know, maybe something happens in camp, maybe something
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goes poorly, maybe you know, somebody suffers a setback, or
somebody you know is ruled out because of a hamstring
that you know they they rip up in the preseason
or something like that. Wouldn't you just bet on all
the underdogs and just try and hit one of these
and the next thing, you know, you're a big winner.
That's what I would do. Well, that's what you guys
aren't good at gambling.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I am.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
So that's why clear difference. But that'll wrap up our
quarterback round up around the NFL Curtis DraftKings. Were you
talking about? I sent you a screenshot Golden Gate Fields
this past weekend. The five horse in the six.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Race one bet you're gonna close.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I didn't even pick up. My son picked it. I
was like, which horse do you think is going to win?
He goes the green one. I was like, I don't
know about him. He's like the fourth favorite. He ended
up winning the race photo finish.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
You know what the worst part is, instead of being
smart about this, you're gonna try to, you know, bring
up your son in the gambling household where you're gonna
lose all the bets. And he could be like, oh,
he's my good luck charm. He's really good at betting,
even though you just just stay away from it all together.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Yeah, but when I lose, I have somebody to blame.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Now it's great, Well, your at least your son wins.
There's that.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
He's a Knox.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
He'll figure it out eventually.
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bunch of those recently because they've had this marathon.
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Oh yeah, they've been watching a bunch so recently.
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and and because of it, a lot of them deal
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There's a lot of that that takes place, so.
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To speak, that evil on meat, Ricky Bobby.
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that's a terrible self.
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Brady's because you can't have the crab?
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Yeah?
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I've had it obviously before when I realized I was
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the UFC and they're testing policy, which I believe is
simil to Olympic doping and all that. But a lot
of these things can can go haywire quick, right with
the testing.
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simplest stuff to where they'll be like a contaminated like
substance or a contaminated supplement rather and it's mixed in
a vat with a bunch of other stuff that's not allowed,
and somehow that ends up and you'll get these trace
So when like people see like, oh, somebody tested positive,
you've bet UFC fighters not be able to fight and
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collect a paycheck for like two years trying to clear
their name. And then once they finally clear their name,
when they find out, oh, they didn't take anything, they
weren't on steroids, it's like, cool, but can I get
the last two years of no payments and no fights
because I've been suspended this entire time back and it
so Yeah, But I also think.
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Meanwhile, you got Bob Bafford who's like blaming it on
the stallkeeper, you know, urinating on like the hay and
all that.
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from the enhanced games on the show. We've got to
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throw what if at you what if Dan Hurley rejects
the offer from the Lakers and JJ Reddick rejects the offer.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
From the Lakers, then what.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Then then are we look at an option see for
the quote unquote great franchise that is the Lakers organization?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
What's that you go back and apologize to Darwin House?
You know, maybe we made a mistake.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
He's back in Milwaukee now.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
He just took the job as the top assistant there
for Doc Rivers with the Fox, so he's gone.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
James Barrego of.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
The Pelicans, he's been rumored to be a potential candidate.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I also saw Lee can you look this up? I
don't want to give out bad information here, but screw it.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
We'll just lie later on and say we didn't do it.
Is Jay Wright's name being floated out there by mark Stein?
I wanted to say it was Jay Wright. Mark Stein
had something about, you know, the potential of it being
Jay Wright, former Villanova coach?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Uh, stealth candidate? Yes, stealthy?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Okay, all right? Stealth candidate? Is that what you say
when you just really are throwing crap out a wall?
Speaker 6 (02:13):
But why not how you phrase it?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Why not? Let's you know, is that where journalism has
got to the nowadays? It's like, well, we don't want
to say exactly what it is. We're just going to
go and say stealth candidate.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yeah, yeah, it's a new one.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Though.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Have you heard that one before? I don't know that
I heard that. I mean, I've never heard it.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I mean, is anyone going to take this job?
Speaker 6 (02:34):
So, okay, that's a great question.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Can you imagine if we ever in the history of
sport had an NBA or NFL team actually not be
able to get a coach.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
But let me post this, So, why can't JJ Reddick
just accept the job? I mean, you know what I'm saying, Like,
is his obligation to ABC, ESPN that great that he
just can't leave and say I'm going to become the
next head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers. Everyone would understand.
(03:10):
The idea that they're waiting until after the NBA Finals
doesn't negate his ability to just accept the job and
become the head coach. I mean, yes, maybe you have
to leave at that point. Although our colleague Doug Gottlieb,
he's still doing radio and he's a head coach down
in college.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Basketball, there's hope.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Look well, I'm just saying like it's obviously being done now,
and that doesn't again take away from JJ Redick still
doing some of his obligations or some of those things.
If he wants, he can negotiate that to a deal.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Yeah, he makes the schedule, so he gets off.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So I guess, I guess the greater question is like,
what was the hold up anyway, because now it looked like, okay,
the hold up was for Dan Hurley. Whatever's going on
behind the scenes. However, this was being orchestrated. They wanted
to maybe try to go after and make a pitch
to Dan Hurley. Why it took so long, I don't know,
because if it was this dream candidate you thought he was,
why wouldn't he be the first one up As soon
(04:07):
as the college you know, college basketball season ended, Slash,
you knew that you need a new new coach because
you moved on from Darva Ham. I mean, it looks
like an absolute circus right now. If you are a
Los Angeles Lakers fan, try to tell me how it
looks otherwise. But more so than that, if JJ Reddick
is that next guy online, first off, does he still
(04:28):
want it after it's been very public that Dan Hurley
flew out interview decided to decline it. If I'm JJ Reddick,
my price just went up. It's like you're going to
take any less than whatever was offered to Dan Hurley
if you weren't offered that, but now it's going to
be even more so in order to make me take
that job. But none of it makes any sense. And
(04:50):
so they either don't know what they're looking for or
it's it's such a cluster because of the Lebronson there
and the ownership and Polinka and like all these other
parties involved that they don't know what direction they're really
trying to go and what they're trying to do. No
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matter what, though, this is shocking to me that we
are now this far into this vacancy without having a
head coach for the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I mean, and also just the from a basketball standpoint,
where are they at in the Western Conference? Because this
was like going into this past year, it was like, yeah,
we get it. They got swept in the Western Conference finals,
but at least it was against the team that ended
up winning a championship, and the future is bright. They
made a much better run and a deeper run than
anybody thought. And that was before Minnesota got great, before
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Dallas made a run like they did. Oklahoma City was
the one seed. Like you just you look around the
Western Conference you go, well, dude, this is like a
couple of years in a row they've been a playing team,
Like they've had to scrape and claw to be a
play in team in the Western Conference. I just I
think people look at the gig and go, I don't know,
like maybe five years ago, with Lebron a little bit younger,
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maybe this is a much better gig than what a
lot of people expect. But it just seems like you
have the same issues all the time. It's Lebron running
the show, Anthony Davis, can't he stay healthy? And then
you just hope that you know, a deal or two
at the deadline and maybe they'll be able to bring
in somebody that can contribute unlike they did this past year.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I just I don't think.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
It's a strong personalities man. Lebron's strong personality, Anthony Davis
strong personality. Bus I could assume she's a strong personality.
Polinka seems like he's an assertive personality. I just if
you're a coach and you're stepping into this situation. I
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just don't know how you how you feel like you
can have success. I really don't. And if you have
a guy like JJ Reddick who was willing and wanting
to do it, regardless of his his resume or his
lack of experience at doing it, if you get a
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guy that can handle those personalities and manage those personalities,
then why would they have drugged out the way that
they did. Why did they Why was there such a
quick pivot or change the direction in the media in
terms of we're going try to go with Dan Hurley now,
Like it just seems there's something strange going on behind
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the scenes. I don't know what it is. Is it
a tuggle war battle? Who's in the battle, Who's on
what side of the rope? I do not know, but
just something doesn't seem right. And for Dan Hurley to
deny the job, I mean I didn't think that he
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would take it, But based off of all information given
and knowing what we know, I thought this assessment that
Q gave was spot on. Why wouldn't you want to
take a chance at the next level and try to
win an NBA championship and in LA with the Lakers
of all teams, that's spot on. I want to have
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that opportunity.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Did it feel quick to you too? Like I thought
he would drag at least for like a day or something.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
The whole thing was quick. It was very quick when
he said just just something doesn't seem right.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
When he when it came out that he said, uh,
I'll make my decision Monday. I was like, Oh, he's
gonna stay like, there's no like, you're not going to
lead the fan.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Base on and all that.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And apparently they had some team meeting and he talked
to him and said, hey, you know, we're gonna get.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Back to work.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
And who knows what the the offer is from Yukon.
I just think they also fired a guy who just
took him to the playoffs two years in a row.
If JJ Reddick or somebody got this gig, and you
were to say, all right, first two years you went
to the Western Conference finals and then you went to
the playoffs the next year. Oh, by the way, your
job's in jeopardy, Like who wants to get and especially
(09:07):
if you've got options, if you're JJ Riddick, why would
you want the guys having such success as a media member,
whether it's the podcast, whatever that's doing. But he's calling
the biggest games in the NBA. He's great in studio,
he's knowledgeable. People can maybe not like his tone and
his demeanor at times, but he's he's willing to call
(09:29):
out whatever he feels and share his opinions. He's unapologetic
for it. The guy's a superstar on the media and
he's made a ton of money in his career. Why
the f would you want to go be a coach
in the NBA where guys get fired seemingly every six
months when they're successful. Adrian Griffin didn't even make it
to half the season and got clipped.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, that one didn't make any sense, By the way,
The answer to that is always easy, though, because think
about this. You don't go into any walk of life
thinking negatively, Like you don't go to a grocery store
thinking like, well, I'm gonna go and now I'm a
slip and I'm a fall, I'm gonna break my hip
like you don't think about the negative consequences of taking
(10:12):
on new opportunities or when you go to do something.
Most people are more task oriented or they're looking at
the upside, like they're saying, like, oh, I get the
chance to be the get the chance to coach Lebron.
I give you the chance to be the next head
coach of the Lakers. You're looking at the upside of it,
like you. We all talk ourselves into the dream scenario
that when we lay our head down to night, that's
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what we would close our eyes. That's what goes on in
our head, That's what we envision, that's what we think
is going to take place. No one takes a job
begrudgingly and with this a negative attitude about it. So
I always understand what people take the chance to take
the opportunity to do it. You know, they either want
(10:53):
to achieve at the highest level, which is what I
said yesterday, and I think maybe, look, that will be
there for Dan Hurley. He's young enough where it'll be
there if he wants to be there in the future.
The reality is he probably wants it to be the
right circumstance of the right situation. And I think you
could make a case now more than ever that if
there was a coach in college you wanted to jump
to the NBA, now would be the time because of
(11:14):
how college sports is going with NIL, the realignment, everything
else is going on, So it would make sense that
you'd say there's too much uncertainty. I don't want to
deal with this. I'd rather jump to the NBA. Now,
that makes sense to me. But if it's not the
right situation and you can't have complete autonomy and you're
beholden to that superstar, maybe the greatest of all time
(11:34):
in Lebron James, then you might have reservations. And that's understandable.
I've had a head coach and I'm not gonna say
what head coach was that I spoke with about this,
but he talked about the difference between the NBA and
in college and just really basketball in general at that level,
and he said it was more about managing superstar personalities.
That it's really really hard to create a team environment
(11:58):
unless you have the right superstar with the right mindset,
because that's that's ultimately what it's about. It's a sport
of at times, individual plays that make the difference between
winning and losing. The only five guys in the court,
you could have that one superstar that can allow you
to have every you know, every night, that chance or
when you get in the playoffs, that chance to hit
(12:18):
the game winning basket that turns that series, that turns
the tide that wins you a championship. And so that's
ultimately what your job is is to find a way
of tapping into that superstar to get him to be
the leader you need him to be, or for him
to help create the environment you need him to create.
It feels like honestly glorified babysitting when you when you
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hear about it like that, and it feels like a
really difficult job because it's not schematic as much as
you'd think, and it's not about some of the other
things out there like like you'd think, like in the NFL,
I would say, talent's so equated. Yes, it helps to
have a star quarterback, but even then he's only out
there at most half the time. You're still gonna have
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a defense, you still have special teams, you still have
you know, scheme, and even the best quarterback, if he
doesn't have help around in protection all these other things,
it ain't gonna matter. So you know, in comparison to
other sports, like there's where there's a lot more scheme involved,
a lot more coaching involved a lot more analysis even
during the week and offseason, not as much in the NBA,
(13:22):
And so it's tough if you feel like there's someone
there that's pulling the strings that you can't get along with,
or is it gonna take you into consideration. And I
feel like that's what's hanging over the Los Angeles Lakers
right now.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Does this take a hit on Lebron's legacy? I don't
think coach a coach denying the opportunity to coach him.
I'm just listening to what you just said. I think
it just made me like in my mind, like I'm curious,
like does he take a hit from something like this.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I'm not saying that that was the definitive reasons.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I'm not saying that's what you said, but I will
say I'm not as sinuating that's what you said, but
in poor curious.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
When the report came out about him trying to move
on from Spolstra, and I'm not sure if you saw that. Yeah,
and then you look at the track record in Cleveland,
you look at the track record basically everywhere he's been
butt there and and by the way, that was because
he had to deal with a strong personality in pat
Riley who put his foot down, and obviously the Heat
have been incredibly successful in the sense of not having
(14:20):
a Lebron James still being able to have success, still
be be able to overcome that. Like they to me,
and we'll see what happens with Jimmy Butler, but they
to me are a team that I look at and
say they they've They've got the right components in dynamics.
They just need to find that next guy if it's
not gonna be Jimmy Butler, whoever it is, to get
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them over the top. But if you look at the
track record of Lebron James, to your question, it feels
like he's always been back channeling or behind the scenes
doing whatever he's doing to create the situation that he wants.
And then maybe he feels like he learned from that
Miami experience with pat Riley how to build it, how
(15:05):
to do it because they were successful in Cleveland. He
brought Cleveland a championship and so now he's looking for
that same opportunity in LA And they did win a
championship in LA. You know, we can all make fun
of the Bubble Boy Championship and all that the reality
is that's their banner. They won what they brought a
championship to La Masks at all. Well, we're not that matters.
(15:25):
They won it. So maybe he feels like he's done
enough now throughout his career and even as a player
and understanding how to build teams that he should be
able to handle things this way.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
What I do know is they've done a hell of
a job somehow making themselves part of the story during
the NBA Finals coverage, because I would argue the Lakers
head coaching job is more interesting and the conversation around
it than the finals have been as far as how
these games have.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Gone early on.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
So I don't disagree with that Game three.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Coming up tomorrow night here, so we will have more
of a look at that coming up tomorrow morning as
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yours here twenty minutes from now. All right, little quarterback
round up here around the National Football League apparently Zach
Wilson is in contention to be the starting quarterback for
(18:26):
the Denver Broncos right now. Sean Payton, his new head
coach there in Denver, he spoke recently about their interest
and how they feel about Zach Wilson. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 9 (18:41):
We just felt like, man, we'd love to work with
this guy. It wasn't too long ago. We remember grading
him and we felt the investment was worth it relative
to his skill set and his talent, and.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
So it took a while.
Speaker 9 (18:58):
We spent the better part of a month and a
half working on that trade.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
So that was Sean Payton talking about Zach Wilson and
potentially being the getting the opportunity there to be the
started for the Denver Broncos. If they just drafted bo Nicks,
Like why is what's what's the delay? Just throw him
out there and let's let's see this thing happen, Like
let's get it going, Like why go in any other
direction other than the guy you just drafted in the
(19:25):
first round. If everything's going that well.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, I don't know, right, you know why you make
that draft selection and then sit there and turn around
and be like, well, yeah, we signed Zach Wilson, but
we want him to be our guy. It's like, well, okay,
I mean we've we've seen how it's gone so far
for him. It would make probably more sense for Zach
Wilson to sit, learn and watch, granted, even though it's
a rookie, just to allow him for his next opportunity
(19:51):
to be one where he can excel and he can
have a chance at succeeding and proving he can be
a quarterback in this league. For bo Nicks, like you
draft him to be your quarter act of this team.
This is to me where organizations, when they make a decision,
they're not putting all their eggs in that basket and
they then find themselves creating their own controversies when they
(20:12):
don't need to. You drafted bo Nicks for a reason.
You've touted him up all along this offseason up until
this report. So either Sean Payn's saying it because he
wants to pump up Zach Wilson, he wants to. I mean,
even at this point, I don't think you're trying to
create more trade value for him, and I don't think
that's the case. He's probably trying to make sure these
(20:34):
guys know like, oh no, if bo Nix wins it,
he's earning it. He's not just being given it because
where he's drafted that probably has something to do with this.
And you preach that to everyone of the team, I mean,
var knows. Outside of a few of the solidified veterans,
you know, they're gonna say every person, everyone's competing, everyone's
up for It's like, all right, but the reality is
we know who's starting and who's not. A lot largely
(20:54):
because of the contracts are largely because of the investment
that's been made into that player.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Yeah, and that's not the case here, right, Like neither
one of these guys are high paid ones on a
rookie contract and the other one they're both on rookie contract.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Right, Comparatively speaking, it would be I mean, the investment
into Knicks is much more at this point at least.
I mean, you're right in.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
The fact that the draft pil but with the draft pick, yeah,
it's eighteen.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Point six million over the next four years.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
With the twelfth pick, I mean, that's a super high
pick to take a quarterback that you may not use
immediately upon drafting, which, listen, we know it's a quarterback
driven league, So what does that mean for bo Nicks
if he's not starting right away.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
I don't know if.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
That bodes well because it's it's not a good team
right now. It's a team that's it finished strong and
they're trying to find their way, but they're in need
of a quarterback. And so I would still say he's
a rookie. Yes, the investment is there and the value
is there in the draft, but it's a rookie contract
(22:02):
and Zach Wilson is not a high paid guy.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
What's the other guy, Jared Stidham.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
I don't even know if he's even in the mix
to that he might even end up being the starter.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Who knows.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
But I still think that this is one of those
things where Sean Payton is trying to build a winner,
and it could be as simple as all the guys
that I have here, and we've seen him do it in.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
He'll use all his quarterbacks, even if it's in different roles,
He'll use them all if he feels like it gives
them an opportunity to win.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
So I don't see I don't.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
See this being anything other than Sean Payton knows he
wants to win, he needs to win, and he's going
to play the guy that he feels is going to
best fit that role of going in there as the starter.
And he doesn't really have anything but a little bit
of pressure saying we used the twelfth pick, which I
(22:58):
think you can get from under. I don't think you
can actually be held accountable and as much of if
it was a number one overall picked like the number
one pick versus the twelfth pick. So I don't think
it's in a bad spot.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
It's it's a great point because Taysom Hill b yu
found a spot for him. Maybe he looks at Zach
Wilson as a new Taysom Hill, you know, maybe we're
gonna get him to see some h back, you know,
play tight end, quarterback, up back. I'm just saying nickelback.
There's all options for him on the table or.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Man, I don't know I should say that, say say no,
say yeah good, put him no, holster no, put it
back in the holster. Johnny Ring, I bet you won't.
I bet you won't say it. I'm not gonna say
I bet you you won't say it.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
It would be incredibly reckless.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I'm not going to say, text it, and then we'll
see whether or not you made the right decision.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I know I made the right decision.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
I want to know what you are going to text it.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I'm going to text by the way I said. I
know I made the right I have odds.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
I have odds.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
According to our friends of DraftKings for quarterbacks starting Week
one around the NFL, you guys want to run through
these here, little just come on, let's have some fun
with it, all right. It beats talking about witsback.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
I don't think that's egregious.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Okay, okay, all right, the next message, all right, okay,
I got.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
You, Okay, okay, Well there were.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Okay, right, no, no, air brakes were good.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Air brakes were good. I'm not sure I'm not even going.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
To do it. I know you're not. You understand, like
just slowing the take there with the whole text message.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
No, I just you know, keep my mouth shut, all right,
So we have we have a live studio.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Yeah, I gotta played off of that too. Q's message.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
All right, So here are the odds for the Broncos
quarterback to play the first week one snap. Bon Nicks
is your favorite at minus four hundred so a four
to one favorite. Zach Wilson at a plus four fifty.
Jared Stidham at plus six fifty. All right, so overwhelming.
Bon Nicks is protecting to be the guy.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
No love for Stidham.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
The Raiders quarterback to play first week one snap. Your
options are Gardner Minshew and Aidan O'Connell. Who would you,
guys guess is the favorite to take the week one snap?
Miche Gardner Minshew is a two to one right now.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, I mean they paid him a little bit this offseason.
Two in comparison, O'Connor's on his rookie deal. I mean
it's it's I thought it was more backup money, but
apparently not. It is be a starter.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
The Vikings quarterback to play the first week one snap
options are Sam Donald and JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
I bet Donald's to save Donald.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Yeah, at a minus two thirty, it is Sam Donald.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Wow. Good for him though, you know, this could be
a great situation for him to kind of reinvent or
restart his career, especially in that offense those weapons.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Next up, the New England Patriots quarterback to play the
first week Drake May. Jacoby Brissett is a minus two sixty.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I've heard. I heard he's been getting.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
All the first team reps, but like it hasn't the
same been for Aidan O'Connell. Didn't he get the first look?
Speaker 5 (26:42):
And why is there more pressure to play? Why is
there more pressure to play bo Nicks than it is
to play Drake May. I would think that there's more
pressure to play Drake May than there would be to
play bow Nicks.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I would I would think so too. I think it's
just because they have a veterans starter who's you know,
done more in the league, and Jacoby Brissett's he's gotten
a little more equity built up. But then within that
organization two in New England, you know, as far as
Jared Steadam and Zach Wilson, they don't really have any
background there in Denver.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
All right, Next up the New York Giants. Options are
its Daniel Jones.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
That's I I mean, come on, if Daniel Jones isn't starting,
somebody's losing their jos.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Well, you didn't even let me give the options here.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
It doesn't matter, I mean, it doesn't matter with you.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Drew Locke is a plus two seventy five for anybody interested.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Daniel Jones minus.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
All right, so the Seattle Seahawks Geno Smith and Sam Howe.
Geno Smith is a seven to one and this one
which is tugging at the heartstrings of one LeVar Arrington
and Eddie Garcia, the Stellers Justin Fields and Russell Wilson.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Justin Fields is plus four fifty.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Rus Wilson is a minus seven hundred to get the
Week one snap for the Pittsburgh Steelers. It doesn't matter,
wouldn't you just or maybe you guys wouldn't, But you
know how good I am a gambling so I would
I would just bet on every single underdog and then
just you know, maybe something happens in camp, maybe something
(28:20):
goes poorly, maybe you know, somebody suffers a setback, or
somebody you know is ruled out because of a hamstring
that you know they they rip up in the preseason
or something like that. Wouldn't you just bet on all
the underdogs and just try and hit one of these
and the next thing, you know, you're a big winner.
That's what I would do. Well, that's what you guys
aren't good at gambling.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I am.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
So that's why clear difference. But that'll wrap up our
quarterback round up around the NFL Curtis DraftKings. Were you
talking about? I sent you a screenshot Golden Gate Fields
this past weekend. The five horse in the six.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Race one bet you're gonna close.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I didn't even pick up. My son picked it. I
was like, which horse do you think is going to win?
He goes the green one. I was like, I don't
know about him. He's like the fourth favorite. He ended
up winning the race photo finish.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
You know what the worst part is, instead of being
smart about this, you're gonna try to, you know, bring
up your son in the gambling household where you're gonna
lose all the bets. And he could be like, oh,
he's my good luck charm. He's really good at betting,
even though you just just stay away from it all together.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Yeah, but when I lose, I have somebody to blame.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Now it's great, Well, your at least your son wins.
There's that.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
He's a Knox.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
He'll figure it out eventually.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
It is two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, and coming up next, we are
going to close up shop with another edition of You
In and You Out right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
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Speaker 3 (29:49):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you. We are
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Speaker 4 (30:03):
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Speaker 3 (30:05):
We'll have a preview of Game three of the NBA
Finals as well too, So all that'll be yours here
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If they're in at least four If they're.
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Out, all right?
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Lead to lap What do we got guys? Monument to day?
Speaker 10 (30:47):
After fifteen seasons, the very last NASCAR race Hub will
be Uh, they're gonna be taking their victory lap. This
one's last original studio show, so if you want to
catch that on FS one, might be in on that
out and and feel bad.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Man. A lot of hard working people, a lot of
time and effort has gotten into that show for a
period of time and it's been successful. I know it's
it's shutting down, but I think it's because of rights
issue though right.
Speaker 10 (31:15):
Yes, that is part of the issue that's still ongoing.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Plus also support a friend of the program, Shannon Spake, who's.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Awesome and awesome.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
So a lot of good people.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
So sad to see it go. It's had a good
long run though, think about it, since FS one got there.
It's the last remitting original show.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
YEP.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
I respect all those things y'all said, but I'm still out.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
I will not be watching this.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
Wowow guys, another show making a long run, returning for
its twentieth season Tonight, Deadliest Catch.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
On just s been watching a bunch of bunch of
those recently, almost snocked my headset off. Been watching a
bunch of those recently because they've had this marathon.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Going Oh you've been watching a bunch of those reasons?
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Oh yeah, they've been watching a bunch so recently.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Yeah, sorry, because you've been watching them a bunch of
them recently.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
I have.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
They have this marathon going on, so I've been watching
a bunch of those recently, and you've got my wife
into it. She was really like, I can't believe they're
actually doing this for a living.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Help sell us on why someone would want to watch
that instead of something else.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
I mean, it's literally people guy watching a bunch of
them recently.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
They they risk their lives to catch the food that
wealthy people like LeVar and Brady eat three days a week,
and and because of it, a lot of them deal
with issues like drugs, alcohol.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
There's a lot of that that takes place, so.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
To speak, that evil on meat, Ricky Bobby.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
So their addictions are you guys are responsible for because
of all the expensive, wealthy food that you guys indulge
on three four, eight days a week. Those guys now
turn into drug addicts because you guys got to have
your King crab out.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah, I can't have crabs, so that's not true. But yep,
that's a terrible self.
Speaker 10 (33:09):
Is that the only reason why you don't like it,
Brady's because you can't have the crab?
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I've had it obviously before when I realized I was
allergic to it. It was delicious thing.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
But I mean the show. Would you want not watch
the show because you don't like King?
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I would have watched it just so you and I
don't have something to talk about.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Damn yeh Listen, I don't like mushrooms. I don't like mushrooms.
I watch Mario Brothers with my son.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Oh that's funny.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
What's actually guys?
Speaker 10 (33:37):
Thirty for thirty Tonight, False Positive follows butch Reynold's relentless
battle to clear his name after being a false positive
drug test before the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, Jonas, you know more about
this than anyone else because you're pretty knowledgeable about like
the UFC and they're testing policy, which I believe is
simil to Olympic doping and all that. But a lot
of these things can can go haywire quick, right with
the testing.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, because they like they don't clean, like it's the
simplest stuff to where they'll be like a contaminated like
substance or a contaminated supplement rather and it's mixed in
a vat with a bunch of other stuff that's not allowed,
and somehow that ends up and you'll get these trace
So when like people see like, oh, somebody tested positive,
you've bet UFC fighters not be able to fight and
(34:28):
collect a paycheck for like two years trying to clear
their name. And then once they finally clear their name,
when they find out, oh, they didn't take anything, they
weren't on steroids, it's like, cool, but can I get
the last two years of no payments and no fights
because I've been suspended this entire time back and it
so Yeah, But I also think.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Meanwhile, you got Bob Bafford who's like blaming it on
the stallkeeper, you know, urinating on like the hay and
all that.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Right, That's why that's why we've got to get somebody
from the enhanced games on the show. We've got to
talk about all these athletes on the gas and we
got to get somebody on the show to discuss what
it's like running one hundred meter sprint when you've got
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ninety one octane pumping through your blood.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
That's what week I remember.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Butch Reynolds, I'll probably watch it, just not tonight.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
So I'm kind of and but yet out. At the
same time.
Speaker 10 (35:29):
Guys Tour de France unchanged season two on Netflix docu
series following the cycling teams at the Tour de.
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Fronce out out Out.
Speaker 10 (35:38):
I'm usually out on the Tour de France, but actually
watching the show makes it.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I'm sorry to say, he's really cultured. Are you trying
to make yourself seem cultured? For like the dating scenes over?
Speaker 4 (35:53):
I am a very culture I'm a very cultured individual.
Great poopl.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
You'd like to say that because you vote and watch
these dumb movies.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
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